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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Wrestling for a mature adliance. I'm still doing the boys.
I'm trying to think because you think, do you think
she's gonna do the let it up? You're gonna have
to do that at first, right, I mean let it
up that one.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
I mean, good for you for thinking that aj Lee
is going to show up tomorrow in Chicago.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Let me tell you she fucking better. At this point,
are they're gonna look real stupid? Are you kidding me?

Speaker 2 (00:31):
I can't wait for Charlotte Flair to show up and
talk about being the cornerstone of the women's revolution.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Oh boy, there they are in deep doodoo. If this
is not aj Lee.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
They went to Chicago just about Charlotte Flair.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Oh dude. And you know me, I've been a I've
been an a J league denialist for the past half
dozen years. I'm like, she's not showing up. People are yeah,
but somebody put their hands by in their back and skipped.
I'm like, she's not showing up. But then somebody said
something about you she's not show. But now at this point,

(01:09):
if they don't bring that woman out on Friday Night,
they are fucked with the capital F that will go
real bad, quite quite bad. There is only so many
times you can edge an audience and not deliver before
they're gonna be And by the way, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Not saying saying say that like we haven't been doing
that for fifteen years.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Come on, Yeah, that's a good pet is a good one.
Some day, some day we're gonna just be so nice
and you people are gonna be so happy with all
the opinions. No, Like, dude, there is something too, you know,
like you lay out a whole trail of like, oh,
we're gonna be in Chicago. It's like, dude, what are

(01:56):
they gonna do? Bring out Smiley Kylie? What the fuck? Dude?
Come on, that's not like I said. If they find
some sort of way to screw this.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Up, you want me and really reveal because I've been
thinking about this right, by the way, wrestling soup, I'm Anthony,
I've been thinking about it. Yeah, we're kind of back.
We're back from from seth Rollin's house.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
But that you went to our right, did everybody like this?

Speaker 2 (02:26):
And they laugh like.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah, as you go to the gas station, you were like,
can I have thirty on pump four? And they're like dirty, Yeah,
it's awful. But but either way, so do you have
a theory on whether she's showing up tomorrow or not.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
I think it could very well tie in with something
really dumb, really dumb.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Okay, Sugges, you got you got it, because I don't
know any other way they could do this without it
being a complete horror show.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
For that we get a chance to review raw on Tuesday.
We usually do this, but I was once again and
and we but on Tuesday you would have talked about
the promo or or the communication that Adam Pierce had
with Lyra vel Kyrio. Oh oh, Lyra Valkyria was very

(03:22):
very determined to find Bailey, and Adam Pierce had some
news for her, basically saying that she's kind of flipped
her rocker, but she'll be around by next week. No
oh mass And there may be a chance, in the
weird realm of mister Damas Predictions, there's a weird chance

(03:43):
that maybe Bailey really has flipped her rocker and she
comes out as aj Leon.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
She thinks she's aj Oh Jesus Smith, Come on, I'm
trying to maintain hope on some level that they could
do something that would be new for them and by
the way, like new old, not even like new as
in here's a new debut, or like a young up
and coming talent. Quite literally, them Dustin Off somebody that

(04:12):
the audience hasn't seen in like a decade. But oh
my god, if they don't have her come out tomorrow night,
that will go over horrendously.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
And if you split personality gimmicks, w w' is a
big fan of them. Vince was a big fan, as
we all know. He likes the crazy and Bailey doing
the atypical crazy. Maybe Joe, maybe it even goes further.
Maybe Bailey thinks she's aj Lee and she competes as
AJ Bailey on Fridays, but when she goes to raw,

(04:45):
she's just Bailey.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Dude, what was that fucking nineties movie where the check
starts trying to im.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Freaky Friday Trading places keep calling.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Oh yeah, Freaky frid I'm linsy low hand before the
facelifting drugs boo. No, what was the movie where it
was like single White Female? Was that all?

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah? I remember that one, Yeah, where it.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Was I think it was Demi Moore or something. And
then she moves in the roommate and the roommate tries
to take over her life. Yes, you remember that, I do, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
I do.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
That was from even.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
Cut her hair and she tried to look like Demi
and then you had like Demi and then younger, hotter Demi.
I was like, yeah, no, I remember that. That was yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
She was like, I'm gonna fuck your bullyfriend. I'm gonna
cut my hair and have six with your bullyfriend. And
she was like, I don't know what to do with
any of those Now. They were just like, I don't know.
She probably just.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Late night HBO. That's a fat, right, sir.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
I was gonna say. Back then, they were like, oh no,
you're gonna do that. Now that you know, she'd just
be like, come join Oh that's who Yeah, Bridget Fond, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah, Bridget there it is there you go.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
By the way, both of those women are like seventy
years old now. But I don't know. I assume the
woman died at the end of soccer. Otherwise I'd be like,
you know, it's about time for a sequel, you know, yeah,
happy Gilmore too single life, female to fuck it, let's
do it.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Aliens on TV? What is it? Have you watched that yet?
The Alien TV? Series or whatever it is. I haven't no.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Why would they do that?

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Listen to.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Oh okay, but listen to me. Why would they take
something that was good in a class that can find
a way to elongate it and make it worse? Oh
my god? No, which streaming platform is that on? Is
that on the new ESPN plus app or something like that?
Which one is that on?

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Ripley needs more money, that's what it is.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Oh my god. Well you said the name like beetlejuice?
Do you think that they have Rhea Ripley show up
on Friday? Is that they're out? They're like, listen, we
don't have a j but you know, you guys love Rhea.
So does that work? You know?

Speaker 2 (07:00):
I think Bailey is a legitimate wild card as far
as mister domas predictions go. Ria Ripley is still with
the EO Sky and in Calasca and and the other one.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Well, I can tell you this much. If they want
to dig, If they want to dig a hole and
have her do a cannonball into it, this would be
lyra velcarious moment to disappoint thousands of people in Chicago.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
I hope she does, but I think I think I
think it did Bailey. If they do not get a
j Lee, the swerve is going to be Bailey as crazy.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Oh that would that would still be so bad.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Oh it'd be horrible. It would be Oh, Chicago would
rain down sledgehammers of booze. It would be hilarious.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Well, you know what's unfortunate about this audio that we're
having right now is this is such an exploding, as
we say, like an exploding piece of audio, because by
this time row Night, give or take an hour or two,
people are gonna be like, look at these fucking idiots.
Oh yeah, one way or the other, whether they're looking
at it and it going God damn it, why did
they put into the ether that it should be Lyra Valkyria?

(08:13):
Or they're gonna be like, why would you ever think
it would be anybody but aj But we're just entertaining
the idea that they fuck up on that level, right.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
The reality is is I really do believe that aj
Lee is going to show up. WWE likes leaving out
breadcrumbs and this is more like a gaping cavern, so.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Bringing like this is more like a bread bowl, like they.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Would have had to have suffered a major brain contusion
in order to get through this without bringing in aj Lee, Like.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Well, no other than just pissing the crowd off too,
I can't help but think for like a second. And
thankfully they did follow it pretty much immediately with the obvious, hey,
I guess who's coming on Friday thing. But when Becky
went out to the ring alone to confront Punk and

(09:08):
like talk shit to his face and then she fucking
boxes him up, and I'm like.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
He's just standing there, I standing there?

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yeah, God, I mean, dude, you didn't even Dusty Rhodes
right any baby face throughout the year. Brett the hit
man heart obviously stone cold because he beats the shit
out of women's shoot and but any one of them.
By the third hit A grabbed her hand out of

(09:37):
the air, been like, what the fuck the fuck you
think you're doing. I'm not saying he's got to pick
her up and give her a fucking Canadian destroyer. Nothing
but come on.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
See him Punk. Okay, all right, So let me repaint
this picture a little bit for you, because I think
you're missing a glaring observation in this when Becky was
standing up to see him Punk before she started boxing
him in, before Seth came out CM Punk was responding
to her calling her husband a coward, which he's been

(10:05):
a coward for all of this, making fun of the
fact that he stands behind Paul Hayman and Bronson reed,
and finally he stands behind bron Breaker and now he
stands behind just his.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Wife, Yeah, a hundred pound woman.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
And then that's when the real travesty begins, because I
thought that line was it was cold to hear that,
because he put Becky in her place. For all the
mandom that she throws out there, this is larger than life.
Clearly thinks she's big enough to go down to the
ring and square off with Punk, even on the mic,
goes through all of this, and Punk just puts her

(10:42):
back into a box. But then Punk reels it back
and says, but I want you to know that I
really respect you as a woman, and I think you're
a very talented wrestler and you've done a lot for
the women's division. I just want you to know that.
But your husband sucks, but you're really cool outside of
this scenario. And I'm like, why are you qualifying her?

(11:04):
You just got done ripping her apart. Punk absolutely just
not the one I expected.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
I'm very I don't want to say, I'm like massively
disappointed in the segment and how things went because it's
it's still interesting television, not the type of god, yeah,
not the type of TV. Like I don't it didn't
play out perfectly. In my head, I'm not trying to
be one of those people that was like the book

(11:32):
was better. But there is a point where, like you said,
there where it's like, well, Becky, you're a fucking liar
and you're also a snake and you those but you
know what, seven years ago you were pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, but he was insane an he wasn't qualifying her
right at the moment.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
I know, I wish, but that's the problem is is
like punk in this whatever you want to call it,
this version of him is still a little too nice.
He's still a little too nice, because I really think
and I was talking a lot about this obviously on
the on the Post Show, and she made a point

(12:13):
that has kind of has been rattling around in my head.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
For the.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Yes, of course, not Becky Len She made no points.
The only point, the only point on her is her
fucking barren spine that is wasting away. But no, like dude,
she said to me, She goes, why isn't Stephanie Vecora
on these pay per views in these shows? I think
it's because there's people that are more than likely jealous
of her and didn't like how quickly she got over.

(12:40):
And for a second, I'm like, I don't know. But
then I'm looking at Becky at this point and I'm
going Becky had that absolute fucking abomination of a match
with Nicki on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Wait wait wait, wait, wait wait wait, I have to
correct you there. I don't know if you heard this,
but Nicki, I think she went on her podcast earlier
this week and talked about how awesome everybody gave her
a standing. Oh, they gave her a standing. Oh after
her match with Becky. I don't know what you're talking about, Joe.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
I don't think it was a standing. I think it
was a standing. No please, no more matches, stop, Please
don't do this anymore.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yeah, this is what you said real quick before you
go to so much.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah hell yeah I can't.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah please, Nicky said. I'll be honest, I am so
proud of myself because you know, it's been hard, as
you know, living where I live hands on mom, full
time mom, when I'm mom, i'm single mom, and then
running two companies and having all the things, but also
making my comeback a priority too, but nothing will be

(13:47):
more priority than Matteo. And I was so proud of
myself as a mom. And it was really cute because
when I came back, they were all clapping for me,
and it was really special and nice. There are two
spots I'm bummed about, Like I can say that the
volley kick, you know, and you know what that stuff,
it happens. It happens. No one's perfect. What's funny is

(14:11):
is I saw people writing about the crowd, but I
was already warned before I went out that night that
it might be a very pro becky crowd. I was
also warned in Birmingham. I was actually shocked that they
were cheering me in the beginning because I wasn't expecting
that at all. I thought they were going to boom
me out of the gates. And it was cute because
I got a couple of people pulled aside and told

(14:32):
me great things about myself, Like I was so on
cloud nine back there, and I was really happy, and
I'm excited to know where I'm going like moving forward,
and I've been getting let me tell you, because we
have to remember, the hate is very small, even though
they right now feel very loud for me, but it's
so small.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Listen, I'm not I'm not going to be hateful towards
the woman for this match sucking because they didn't really
set up her up to succeed. Don't take somebody who's
barely wrestled and could barely wrestle even at their prime
and give them like fifteen to twenty minutes. Just don't
do that. You're setting that person up to fail that

(15:14):
first and foremost. But secondly, I don't know if he
saw the reports floating around once again, it could just
be complete horseshit, but I wouldn't be shocked at this
point where there was like people backstage were disappointed with
Nikki Bella's performance, I'm like, I was disappointed with Becky's
fucking performance as somebody that defended her for years, she

(15:35):
was fucking rotten in this match too. But no, no, no,
not Becky. She couldn't do anything. Who could no, no
good heavens no. And it's really like it's transparently becoming
not only like it was already like a weird tribute
act to Triple H, this whole Seth thing with him

(15:56):
wanting to have the fucking metal music that's over and
him coming out big, Jesus tough guy and you know,
always trying to be a face even though he's a heel.
We already knew that was a Triple H fucking tribute act.
But now you're gonna give him his own Stephanie too,
For fuck's sake, can you please? Can you make it
a little less fucking obvious, Jesus? And how about the

(16:17):
fact that it's like, yeah, you know what, why don't
we take Seth and we're gonna have Becky with him
as his wife and it'll be like Stephanie and Triple H,
you know. And it's like, yeah, I remember how this happened.
The show was getting ratings, and then you constantly featured
Stephanie and Triple H together and then the people stop
showing up, So why don't you just do a new
version of that? That's fucking brilliant. But like I'm starting

(16:40):
to think still, like I was saying earlier, with with
Becky and whomever, and you know, she might be putting
a fucking she might be playing this game a little much. Charlotte.
People always shit on Charlotte. People say Charlotte's this evil
bitch and Becky's this fucking angel that walks on water.
And I'm starting to think I ain't that.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
I've been thinking, Yeah, I'm sorry, I've thought that for
a long time. I thought that Charlotte wasn't as bad
as everybody says she is. She seems to be the
one that puts in the work, doesn't really cause a
lot of ruckus. Becky seems to be the center of
attention lately. But I did want to correct you on
one thing. It's not like Stephanie is completely out of
the picture. It's going to be her and EO for

(17:24):
the title. They had the little Rio Ripley thing in
the back on Monday too, so they definitely don't want
you to forget about Stephanie Verkerr but pumping the brakestone.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
So we're definitely gonna throw a complete damn towel on her.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
Though I feel like they did that maybe even mode
of Seth, because maybe they felt like Stephanie Verkerr was
was incurring more audience reaction than Seth and Becky combined, which.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
She was, Oh, what a terrible thing.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Well, when that's supposed to be your main event guy,
that's who the stories are all focused around. He's the
ultimate bad guy for my luck.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Yeah, well, you know what, this is what's crazy to
me in this moment when you put into those terms,
And I don't really want to say one way or
the other. She was like completely outshining whoever. But if
you have this point or you have like this place
on your team, and the NFL season started tonight, So
a part of my puns, even though I used them
a plenty as is or comparisons, I should say, but

(18:28):
if your fucking fourth stringer that just made the team
is outshining your starter that's on your starter, you don't
tell the guy in the fourth string like, oh, I'm sorry,
we're gonna have to fucking stuff letting you throw the
ball more because the fucking starter is sensitive, you know,
or like we really want to make sure this guy
does it. Like, no, dude, you gotta fucking step up

(18:50):
and not be so shitty and fucking bland. But you
know when that used to happen, dude, when Triple Ah
and Stephanie were in the top and anybody got a
little bit of attention, Triple H stuck his fucking dong
in them and emasculated them and made them look like idiots.
High booker. That's that's what happens. Like they need to

(19:10):
make sure they are not repeating history in the worst
possible fucking way. But also, at the same time, I
guess that we were all supposed to just jump up
and down and cheer with Glee and hope that because
aj Lee is back, maybe she can do something to
kind of stop Becky or to minimize Becky. But also,

(19:32):
at the same time, do you even see Becky as
a big player on the show anymore? Or is she
just pushed as one now at this point?

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Here is It's the thing though, you know, the same
thing that happened with Nikki Bella and Becky's gonna be
the same thing that happens with aj Lee. Aj Lee
hasn't been in a ring for how long. I know
she did work down and wow, right, but she was
doing commentary stuff. She wasn't in the ring active, she
wasn't having matches. I'm not saying that the girl doesn't
know how to run. I mean, clearly she was the

(20:01):
one who is for most people, she's the one that
truly started the women's revolution in wrestling as far as
WWE is concerned. But the reality is is, I don't
know how ready to go she is. I don't know
how interactive this is going to be, and this might
turn out to be a Niki Bella versus Becky, a

(20:22):
clash and Peri kind of situation.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
I have a little more faith in her because she
could work at one point.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yes, I mean, oh, of course you're you're right, but
it's you're still taking somebody who might genuinely have a
little ring rust on him and might need a couple
of months to work out all the tin man squeaks,
and it's just and you're going to immediately put her
into the main event. You're immediately going to thrust her
into the limelight as the protagonist against Becky right off

(20:53):
the bat.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
Well, after seeing what Becky was able to produce with Niki.
This is where you're very very right to point out,
but we're seeing where Becky is supposed to be. This
you know, wily veteran and I'm the man and I'm
fucking so great, and shit, you couldn't make Nicki even

(21:16):
look half decent. You couldn't carry Nicky belly. You couldn't say, hey,
we should do this. In the mash do less of that.
I don't know if you saw the mash back, but
there was a part where Nicki Bella was bouncing her
head off the desk and it was the most amateur hour,
horrible fucking shit I have seen in quite some time.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
She's not ready, and she's not ready.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
She's not. But also Becky should have been, like, I
don't know, trying to fucking sell. Yeah, like she was,
no liyemish smacking the table with her foot or or
should say her head her foot, Yeah, she's ham bone. No,
she was smacking the fucking table and her head was

(22:04):
like two fucking feet away from the table, with the
cameras like on her. You're the fucking big superstar here
and that's what you're doing. That leads me to believe
one or two things. One you're lazy or two you
are at this point just trying to make Nicki Bella

(22:25):
also look like.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Let's also read the situation right, Let's take what Nicki
Bella said about everybody jumping up and giving her a
standing ovation in the back as something that actually happened.
This is the corporate WWE we are in today. Instead
of pointing out the mistakes, like and I hate to
say this, but like a Vince McMahon would have just

(22:46):
chewed somebody out for that. In WWE today, it seems
like they just go over it and oh, you'll get
them next time, kid, And what a great match you had.
Just think of the positives as opposed to exposing the
negative things that they did, so that they understand that
they've upped these situations. I feel like when you see
all these interviews of people saying, man, WWE's a great

(23:08):
place now that Vinces gone, Wow, what a difference in
the atmosphere. Everybody's having a good time. There's no bad
things happening at all. And I'm like, at some point,
you need a boss to be a boss. You need
somebody to take the pants and the belt and just
tighten it a little bit and come down on these
people for when they coop. So when Nicki Bella says

(23:30):
things like she's getting a standing ovation and people were
pulling her aside and telling her what a great job
she did, I believe that's true. I don't think Nicky's
a liar. I think she's genuinely being honest, and she
probably and I don't know because she said there's only
a small amount of haters, but probably the people that
pointed out or she's probably trained herself to ignore that.

(23:52):
Oh they're just they're just being spiteful fans. Oh they're
just into the character. Oh they're just Becky fans as
opposed to be people pointing out. No, you made this
match look like with your half ass's hunt.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah, it was bad. There was too much obviously called
in the match. I mean, like I said, they didn't
set this girl up a woman, woman woman, she's middle aged.
They didn't set her up to succeed. But that doesn't
change the fact, like you said there that if she's
going to the back and everyone's going you knocked it

(24:24):
out of the park, champ, that's a problem. That is
a problem. Where like it's very Tony kahanesk. That was great,
everything's great. What'd you do there? That was great? It's like, no,
some things are not great and some things are not okay,
and that shouldn't be on a fucking pay per view
plee or whatever it is. And once again, I mean

(24:44):
I'll reiterate. I said it about the post show. How
much money were people paying to get into this building
and this is one of the six, five or six matches.
You give them, Come on, give me a fucking break.
You're paying the thousands. I get it. It was supposed
to be like John Cena show, because this was John
Cena's first and last match ever in France, and kind

(25:06):
of everything else was meant to just be like a
fucking side We meant to be a little appetizer, right,
But still, if you spent one thousand dollars or more
to go to that show and one of the matches,
once again, of the five or six is Nicky Bella
versus Becky Lynch, that's a problem.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
I will say.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
Fucking bad.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Diogo from the show. I was talking to him on Facebook.
He was actually there at Clash in Paris and he
was taking video of a lot of the fans that
were there in attendance. The fan base was riotous, they
were having a great time before and during the event, and.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
I'm glad they were right. If you're spending all that money, well,
I said it the other week, if you're spending all
that money to be there, I hope you even fucking
fake you're having a good time, make yourself have a
good time for God's sake, Jesus, you know there is
something too just keeping a smile on your face to
maybe you trick yourself into feeling a little better. Right.

(26:05):
But like, the show wasn't all rotten, and I think
that was an important thing that was pointed out by
us on the showers, Like half of it was really.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
You had a lot of love You and lu Fisto
had a lot of love for russevn Seamus, and I
think it was that a great match absolutely deserved. I
thought that match was fantastic. I thought Rusev's promo bit
on Monday was hard hitting. I like the direction he's in.
I like the direction of these two guys. It's amazing
to me that you can have all those matches together

(26:35):
and the one thing that gets over is almost the
match that felt like it was a brush aside. I
honestly don't feel like rusevn Shamus got the attention that
a match that they delivered deserves. I think they should
get a lot more attention if you're putting on a
quality match, A vicious, A donty Brook match. If you're
putting on a vicious match like that, shouldn't that be

(26:58):
the one that people would tease as the main event?
And shouldn't they be looking at that going all, these
two guys are gonna go out there and kill each other,
and they.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Did, it still should have been seen as the main
I will say that because even though that match was awesome,
it was a really fucking fun watch, Scena was the
guy that they were there for. Man like that, Okay, right,
it is what the fuck it is. It's crazy how
things just come full circle where you know, we spent

(27:25):
years saying, well, yeah, of Courseine is the main event.
Oh yeah, of Courseine is going over. But when the
alternative is a fucking another bland four way with three
babyfaces versus Seth with the fuck finish and deflating the
whole building from like you said, this whole fucking place
people are. You know, they're hot, they're up there singing,

(27:46):
the dancing, they're having a good time. And then you
start the night off with a match where you humiliate
the fucking babyface, and then you end the night with
a match humiliating a babyface. Come on, guys, this is
this isn't fucking Poughkeepsie, New York. There's a guy damn
pl in France. These people get wrestling what once every

(28:08):
fucking twenty years from you guys leave them happy. They
don't go home with a fucking smile on their face.
It's just I don't know. This doesn't make any fucking say.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Apparently they were also teasing royal rumble there.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Oh well, I'm just saying the money's right.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Well, of course, but I mean you're just saying, and
you're right, they don't do enough out of France on
a regular basis. But apparently they were teasing rumble going
to France. So I just thought that was interesting.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Well that that mish. They're gonna do that everywhere. Now,
they're gonna go to fucking Czechoslovakia. They're gonna be like,
who wants to see the royal rumble in Czechoslovakia. They're
gonna be like yes, and whatever fucking their language sounds,
that's that's just what it's gonna be. Like, Dude, They're
gonna play this game where they cock tease everybody wherever
they go on the planet.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
That's kind of clever because so what you're actually saying
is they're gonna try and make the fan base so
rabbit that it's going to force the people that are
running the country or running the city at least to
kind of invest in bringing a WWE event today.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Well that's that is a great tricky way of putting it.
But I'm thinking of it more along the lines of
like in the nineteen eighties, where I'm sure every city
Guns and Roses went to was the best city on
the tour according to what they'd say to the crowd. Yeah,
you know what I mean, nobody rocks like Medianapolis. You're like, oh, yes, see,
we're better than all these other places. It's like, yeah,

(29:31):
just no one's recording you. That's why, motherfucker. There's no
camera phone. Nobody's put it over to it. Hey. He
said the same thing abucka Moine about Poughkeepsie.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
What the fuck man?

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Hey man, I thought you to come New York was
the well, no one rocks like us. We've been lied
to and hoodwinked. Yeah, No, that's what it's gonna be.
They're just gonna play that fucking game everywhere they go.
And don't worry, guys, they're not going anywhere with these
big paper other than Saudi Arabia to get that fucking
blood money. So don't I do want to switch all yourselves.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
I do want to switch it up a little bit.
I know we're talking a little bit about Clash and
a little bit about Raw, but I do want to
say that I have been enjoying the Eosky Kabooki Warriors
kind of breakdown with Rio Ripley. It's weird how this
storyline has so many layers to it, and once again
it feels like it's not playing an integral part to

(30:26):
the next show. It almost feels like it's passe. But
Osca is really acting her ass off because obviously she's
doing it in Japanese and English, but just the nuances
of the way she's treating Eo Sky and the nuances
of how her and Rheo Ripley kind of clash. I'm

(30:47):
really enjoying it, and I'm kind of happy that there
is something that's been positive on WWEE lately that I
can really sink my teeth into. Because it was a
rough it was a rough pay per view. Ra was
I don't know how you felt overall about RAW. I
thought Raw was incredibly average for the most part, but
it feels like they were also ringing damage control from

(31:09):
the night before.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
I mean, well, this is what the shows are just
gonna be. I feel like just going forward where it's
gonna be this, you know, we hey, how did we
do last night? Real good? All right, we can kind
of phone it in the next one then yeah, yeah,
or oh man, we really sucked a fucking fat egg.
We better actually put some wrestling matches on the next show.

(31:31):
But like there was so much of and once again
I feel like I'm repeating myself, but I can't help it.
It's that like the whole thing that happened with the
Butt Boys sets Butt Boys that they just like put
Roman Reigns on a fucking stretcher and Adam Pierce, and
Adam Pierce is like, you're not allowed to come back
character tomorrow. It's like, oh, I know, you're almost paralyzed,

(31:53):
the biggest draw in the company, but you guys tracked
their night off and they're like, oh, a whole night off.
It's like, oh my god, is there any sort of
fucking continuity, any sort of attempt at realism at all
in this fucking company or any wrestling at all anymore?
But yeah, there were these little things where yes, the
pay per view was half and half, and then RA

(32:16):
was unfortunately about the same, like you said, like half
and half at best. So I don't know, I don't
know what the good people of France did to deserve
how would you say it? We got we got some
Frenchies in the audience, le mediocre.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Did you see the pleasures of the rock recently?

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Oh, the rock with his fucking tape for him that
he lost like elephants.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Yeah, he lost like one hundred pounds.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Yeah, he just looks like a guy now.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
He just looks like it's like an old guy. He's
just old dude wearing like Bahama T shirts and shit.
It's just I.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Don't know, he looks like a dude. Man.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
It's funny that they keep promoting him to come around
for Summer Slam and I'm like, oh, please, what like this?
You want the Rock to come out looking like this?
It's summer Slam? Are they going to promote that he's sick?

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Like dude? The very the very slender rock, you know, Like,
but dude, he just looks like an like a fit
man in his fifties. That's what he looks like this
is also, this is what happens when you spend like
a quarter of your life though guests to the fucking gills.

(33:25):
Is now you look like a normal fucking guy that
you know, goes to the gym and cycles and swims
and people are like, oh my god, is he dying?

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Right?

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Is he sickly? But it is it is very It
is very daunting when you first saw him.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
But I bet in the land lightning threw up the
picture of him wearing that a nice colorful blue shirt
and the and the the I work at a cash
registered pants. That's great.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
I just you know what, though, Rocky, you're never gonna
escape that fucking right head bud. That's never going away,
just like when you're when a big, big, fucking fat
guy and then he loses like three hundred pounds and
they do all the fucking skin surgery and shit, and
they still got that that fucking dome because it's a dome.

(34:10):
Don't go away, man, that doesn't shrink too, So the
rock doesn't rock might think that's gonna happen, but he's
gonna still have that big roid head.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
Yeah, and Batista pictures I remember.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
And Batista too, all these guys. I'm telling you, dude,
they're probably all getting into their fifties going to their doctor,
and their doctor's like, who are you looking like this
for other than yourself and your own fucking dysmorphia, And
they're like, yeah, it's probably probably a good idea for
me to stop doing that. Huh.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
I wonder if it was like a doctor's call.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
I mean, look, oh it, Scott, I think it is.
It wasn't likely.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
But then then that really does lead up to what
is The Rock going to do at Summer Slam. If
there's these rumors that The Rock is going to be
back for next Summer Slam, what is he gonna do?

Speaker 1 (34:55):
I think he's gonna wrestle Becky Lynch about the same size.
Oh yeah, you reasona no, man, let me tell you
what my big feeling is what The Rock and him
losing all this way. I feel like this is almost
in a way and this is going to hurt some
people's butts, but I don't give a fuck. I think
this is almost like his white flag to John Cena,
where it's like, you're now that role in wrestling, like

(35:18):
John John Cena is gonna be what The Rock is
supposed to be now the elder statesman, the icon type
guy who's won a million championships. Except the difference is
going to be at this point, the Rock has ground
his reputation into dust, and Sena only seems to make

(35:39):
his better and stronger. So that would be a smart move,
if anything, at this point, for the Rock to be like,
I'm gonna step back and Seena is gonna be the
guy that I'm I was supposed to be before I
you know, bought the burned down land of Indigenous people
and you know it revealed myself as a piece of shit,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Well, I was gonna looking forward to him in Minneapolis
next year.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Oh I'm sure. I'm sure they'll be thrilled. Well, I
mean he'll have a he'll have a year. He can
put on some he can get on, he can get
it on cycle again.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
You think that's the direction? I don't know. I mean,
is he doing this for a movie, like I.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Just yeah, well he just you know what I think, dude,
he just did that Big Boxer movie right where he
had to get all fucking crazy yoked. Probably. Nah, I'm
not gonna see that ship. I don't I mean, is
it yet another movie of a guy where it's like,
could you're never gonna make it as a fighter, I'm

(36:34):
going to mercer, And then they make it as a fighter,
and then it gets depressing and the guy fucking die.
I I've seen that movie enough in my life. Like
I I appreciate it. I'm sure that it could be
a very good film, But I've enough enough for me.
I've seen enough of that the same exact story. But

(36:55):
I'm sure the rock probably put on a ship ton
of weight, got jacked the ship for that mo And then,
like you said earlier, some doctor probably looked at him
was like, all right, man, all right, we don't have
to take all of them, you know, yeah, like you
don't need all of these steroids like you you don't
need eight to the Z anymore. Dude, you're fifty something

(37:16):
years old. If you want to see your kids grow
up like your young kids grow up, you gotta cut
the shit. And he said, all right, that's slim down, Batista.
I don't know, that's crazy. Batisa looks like a different human.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Yeah, But you know, speaking of people that are outside
of wrestling, now, I guess you kind of kind of
bring up the fact that Ronda Rousey did a interview
with the Lapsed Fan. During the interview, Joe she said
when they were asked her rear view mirror if wrestling
is in her rear view mirror, she responded pretty much,

(37:48):
I'd say so. I got into the WWE because I
wanted to be able to wrestle with my girls, you know,
the Four horse Women, and be able to wrestle with
my friends. And they kind of dang that carrot for
my whole run, and it never happened, and then the
second run that kept dangling it, and then by the end,
I was like leaving unless I can wrestle with Shana Basler.

(38:11):
And that's how I was able to do it at all.
It got to the point where I'm just like, they're
never going to allow me to make it as good
as I can be, and like meeting them halfway in
this range of mediocrity is crushing my soul. So I
can't continue to do that. So I'm going to go
fucking be awesome and do other things. I'll take everything

(38:32):
that I learned from pro wrestling and apply it elsewhere
into my other passions. If anything, it was like I
was doing a sabbatical when you go off and you
study something for years and come back and utilize what
you learned. That was my wrestling sabbatical. I will take
everything that I learned from that and apply it to
all the other spaces that are bringing me joy.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
It's nice to hear from Kenny Powers. Can't. I can't
stand her fucking ego. Dude, it is exhausting she has.
And that's not even like the worst example of a
lot of the time she talks, but I just hear
that voice that she has where she's just they don't
know what they're doing. I know what I'm doing. She's like, no,

(39:17):
you don't, bitch, she sucked. You're fucking rotten.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Shut up, here's a little bit. Ronda also further went
on and she was talking about her storyline with Alexa Bliss,
and she said, the fact that they had me fighting
Alexa Bliss at all was ridiculous. And you want to
know why they had me against Alexa Bliss because she
had the most merch sales at the time. Like, what
the that's your decision making process?

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Yeah, it's wrestling, man, I mean, we all knew that
that was stupid. Everybody that was sitting there going you know,
still under the illusion that somebody could pull the magic
out of Rondo, like Charlotte did that one time one time,
that one one time.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
It was magical. Look, I will give her her credit.
It was a very magical Survivor series.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
Yes, yes, that one match. Yes, one time, she was
very fucking Not Tom McGee, she's like tits McGee or no,
Tits McGee. Yeah, dude, her bit. Why are they mean
with Alexa? Yeah, we all knew that, we knew that
was stupid, but you also fucking sucked and it was

(40:22):
their fault. And this is okay. She's saying that because
she's like, I should be able to fuck Alexa Bliss up,
and she's not wrong. But what it really was was
that Alexa Bliss wasn't good enough to fucking carry her
hass right, so it was gonna make it ten times worse.
And I saw the thing like dance of it to us,

(40:43):
where like mjf posted, you know, he's like, it's almost
like wrestlings of beustiness or whatever I want to be. Like, dude,
you've worked for Tony Kahn for half a dozen years.
You've got fucking nothing to say. Shut up, not for
your fucking not for this ship with the let me
tell you about the bees Man, Like, fucking dude, dude,
come on, literally mark Goober for fucking right, almost a

(41:04):
decade making the worst shit you've ever seen in your life.
Like it's just whatever.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
But it makes sense, though it's so silly that she
doesn't even realize it all these years later that it's like, yeah,
that's why they put you with her. It wasn't because
anybody believed that you couldn't tap out Alexa Bliss for
real ease. It was because there was a lot of
people that invested a lot of money in Alexa Bliss,
whether it's merchandise or whatever, and they wanted you to

(41:34):
fight her because you had the name value that she needed. Period.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
Yeah, it's not that's not real, dude, And I.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
Think she's stuck in the middle of that, don't you
kind of feel sometimes at the way even in her book, Joe,
even in her book, there's this weird sense not of entitlement.
And I know you threw that out earlier, but there's
this weird sense where I think she kind of believes
wrestling is still real to her.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
You know, she's just a malignant she's a malignant narcissist.
And this happens also a lot too with people who
were in the fighting world and then get into wrestling,
and they still think that they're that fucking person. They
still think that it's the same thing. Part of the
reason why and I'll sing this guy's praises to the

(42:21):
end of time because of the fact that it seems
like everybody forgot he fucking existed. But Ken Shamrock was
successful because he understood that, oh, okay, I was a
UFC champion, all right, and this is back when UFC
didn't make a fucking nickel. But he understood, like, oh yeah,
I was a UFC champion. I can use that legitimacy

(42:42):
and bring it into the wrestling world and you know,
get people over and win or lose or whatever the fuck.
And he had the correct mindset of it at the time,
and that's why he was able to have a career.
But so many of these guys, and I guess girls too,
they still think they're like, they're fighting this motherfucker for real.

(43:02):
They still think it's they still think it's a real
thing that they're getting.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
They're not supposed to think that it's real. They're not
supposed to think that way. But that's what they're supposed
to present the fan base, right, Like, that's the whole
reason you hire a Ronda Rowsey, That's the whole reason
you hied to Mike Tyson because you want these people
to go out there and oh my god, that's Mike Tyson.
What's he going to do up against Stone Cold? Like

(43:28):
that's why you do that shit. You have the pull
Apark brawl and now everybody's frothing at the mouth to
see Mike Tyson and Stone Cold kill each other. It's
not because either Mike Tyson or Stone Cold believes I'm
really the baddest man on the planet, none of that shit.
It's because the fans are supposed to believe that. But
with Ronda Rousey, I feel like there's a point where

(43:50):
she believes she's taking it with her, that she's supposed
to take her UFC credibility with her into w w
E and it's like, no, that's what you're supposed to
sell the fan's not yourself.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
Well, she's an asshole. I mean, come on, she's a
fucking asshole. Like I this is the fact, Like people
still have these conversations with her and entertain her. And
there's people that are still like, oh my god, it's
a big fucking I'm like, well over a decade ago. Now.

(44:21):
She was popular in the UC for like a year
and a half, and a lot of that was because
this was before they could get attractive women into fighting,
and she looked like a god. She looked like fucking
you know, Angelina Jolie's Garlet Johansen. She was like a
fucking supermodel compared to the women that they could get
into mme at the time. Then she showed herself as

(44:44):
a fucking asshole and she got tap danced out of
the fucking out of the whole fighting scene by women
who were better at fighting than her, and she was
never really able to recover in their eyes because she
didn't have the personality, the sincerity, or the decency to rebound.
So she found her way to wrestling. People in wrestling

(45:05):
and braced her because a lot of us are fucking idiots,
and we clap like the eels and go, dug cool,
let's see what she can do. And then she had
one good match, and then for five years the people
talked about her and she pretended like she was fucking
Christ in the cross in pro wrestling, because she had
one good match in that whole time.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
I think she's more like that.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
I mean, she sucks. I mean, that's kind of what
it comes to. She's just a shitty fucking person. She sucks.
That's and by the way, don't get me wrong, once again,
I'm not sitting there being like man Alexa Bliss feuds
in twoenty sixteen Chef's Kiss. What a great time, the awesome.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
At no point thought of herself as being an MMA fighter,
and no point was even Alexa Bliss brought in there
as anything but Alexa bla well. I mean maybe there
was a little stint where she had magical powers, but
we won't talk talk about that, but she could raise
the dead and you know, only performs the trick once though.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
But yeah, puking black blood on the top of a box. Yeah,
you know, stuff like that, you know, normal things.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
Oh my god, Yeah, I don't know. The Ronda Rowsey
thing was just weird that she didn't understand why she
would have been placed up against Alexa Bliss, and the
fact that she's done with rustling, it's no surprise to me.
I don't think that there's a fanfare for her anymore
and the fanfare that they had. Honestly, the reason that
WWE brought her in wasn't necessarily because of her credibility.

(46:33):
It was the fact that they could bring in a
female cross athlete between MMA and w I mean, have
they ever had an MMA champion before? No?

Speaker 1 (46:42):
WW, I mean she still had name recognition at that point. Yeah,
but it really it.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
Was to try and cross over the UFC and WWE fans.
I felt, you know, like, hey, and by the way, Rowsey,
you remember her, right, Yeah? I thought she was hot
and sports illustrated. Come on over to WWE and watch
her slather makeup on the side of her head.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
You know, watch her be really make herself unattractive, and
then you can realize how dull she is as a
human being and how terrible fucking her voice is and
there's no personality. Yeah, I would like to know at
this point the interaction that Mice It must have happened
where Dana White had a conversation with Triple H now

(47:24):
after the fact, and he's like, man, you fucking put
up with Ronda for those years, Jesus Christ, you did. Man.
We made a lot of money with her. And you know,
when we had her, you know, we were able to
market her really well, but she fucking sucked. Thank you
for taking her off our hands. We were sick of
hearing about her. I mean, I could only imagine because

(47:48):
she was a dude, she was a problem. She made
herself a problem. But still it's funny to me if
people need to stop entertaining her and asking her these
wrestling questions so she can shit on wrestling and tell
people how maligned she was when I'm sure she made
millions of dollars to suck shit at what she was
hired to do. Only do but you know, only one,

(48:11):
only one, one, one, just one.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
Talking about human beings, Matt Riddle also, oh god.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
Speaking of workers or fighters that, Yeah, I still think
they're in whatever the fuck they think they're in the end.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Yeah, he was supposed to show up to a charity
event and he like, no, showed it or something on Sunday,
August thirty first, and he put out a video about it.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
Show I'm gonna make this quick, gw K. The reason
I didn't go is because you booked me a flight
for Thursday for a show that was happening Sunday and
You said you were booking me meeting Greeds, other matches
and appearances. You did none of that. I had nothing scheduled.
I was gonna sit in a hotel room for two
days in London. I told you multiple times I can't

(48:54):
do that or wouldn't do that, audible brain damage Friday
and Saturday. I worked Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and I told
you would fly to London Saturday evening. You said you
paid for I go. No, you paid for it. Take
it out of my pay whatever. You guys refused, So
I flew to Miami and wrestled there.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
All right.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
I never said they wouldn't pay you guys back. That's
a lie. Also, this show wasn't a charity event. That's
a lie. That was the last second change. You also
booked me the worst flight in history, Bro Middlesey, no meal,
no check bag, GWK, this is probably your last run.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Oh my god, It's just he's just being matt Rid
all about the whole situation. The Cultaholic made the report
about it, and it was supposedly a charity event and
sport of survivors of domestic abuse as well as homeless veterans,
so not just one charitable group, two different charitable groups,

(49:55):
and following Riddle's comments, the Super Calm Guy issued a
following statement, I guess I was running. It said, in
the light of the recent public statements made by Matt
Riddle regarding the topics of essay and DV domestic violence,
super con has made the decision to cancel his appearance
at this year's convention. The statements that were made in

(50:17):
no way represent our organization or event, and are not
aligned with the mission, vision and values of our organization.
Fans that have purchased photo ops in advance for Matt
Riddle will automatically be refunded this week to their original
form of payment. Has always strived to be a safe
and inclusive space for the event, for all to feel welcome,
et cetera, et cetera. But it's just one of these

(50:37):
things they just completely deny all the allegations told riddleed
of off. And you know, it's funny because there's been
a couple of stories that Riddle has popped up in
the feed, you know, some of his wild comments about WWE,
Triple h CM Punk and I think we've kind of
just breezed past them because I thought in some way.
This was just just him trying to stay relevant in

(50:59):
the new was like, I thought it was all over work.
I thought it was all branding. It was a way
for him to stay you know, in the ITWC or
in the in the dirt sheets. Right, Like, I didn't
think anything of it. He's just saying wild accusations and
just kind of be a prick. But when you see
stuff like this and he's like, noh, this this homeless charity. Man,

(51:20):
they really ripped me off. Can you believe middle seat Jesus?

Speaker 1 (51:26):
Well he was. Well. The funny thing is he was like,
I didn't even know that was good. I didn't even
I didn't know it was a charity or nothing. Right,
It's like, my god, man, this is this is a
guy that I think that people need to constantly remind
themselves whenever they're gonna get into any sort of you know,
business with him, as far as booking him on shit,

(51:49):
This is a dude who has pissed away the opportunity
to be a millionaire twice. So his brain is what
it is. Man Like, whatever you think you're going to
get from him, you're probably not gonna get unless you
keep it real fucking simple, like, hey, Matt, can you
get in the car and go four hours?

Speaker 2 (52:09):
All right?

Speaker 1 (52:11):
Hey, when you get there, we're gonna have this much
money for you. All right, Okay, Matt. After you get there,
we're gonna need you to go twelve minutes with this
guy and you go over with whatever fucking kick thing
you do or something. All right. And I'm sure he's fine.
I'm sure he's fine to work in that fucking context.

(52:31):
But quite literally, if it's like, all right, Matt, you
gotta go to the airport. You gotta have a passport.
We're gonna fucking you gotta get on a plane. You
gotta go this far. And when you get there, he's
be like, can.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
I bring my teddy?

Speaker 1 (52:45):
You're like, what, Yeah, you can bring your teddy bear? Dude,
I guess I don't know. Like, man, like I said,
you can hear the brain damage. You can hear it.
You can hear it.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
That's what it is.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
Yeah, yeah, I heard that. Like there was like a
responsor too. He's like, I'm making all this money off
only fans because I have a big old fat dick
and shit, I'm like, brother, just just stop, just stop.
Don't respond to these people like. It is amusing to
me the way that there's people now through the Internet

(53:19):
where they're like, I make so much money and I'm
killing it and I'm doing so well. But then they're
just still at the same time like you people are stupid,
but I must respond to you. It's like, no, just
take all your money. It's just fucking shut up. Who cares?

Speaker 2 (53:33):
Yeah, if you really don't he ever show up somewhere again?
Will he end up in an aw Will he ever
show up in WWE again? You think?

Speaker 1 (53:40):
Fuck? No, No, I don't think these people want to
deal They don't want to deal with them. Dude. Why
would they want to deal with Matt Reynolds.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Oh, I don't know. I think it's amazing that people
are still talking about the guys so long after he's
been insignificant. I mean he was, he wasn't great even
towards the tail end run of his w das Week career.
That's why it's just but you always see, oh, he's
Matt Riddle. Is gonna be all elite guys, It's gonna
be all elite. I don't even looking at the commons sections.
Just wait till Tony Kahan picks up his tab. It's like, ugh,

(54:13):
do you really want to see Matt Riddle and a
W is Is that the vibe that people have right now?
Like AW is in dire need of something? They just
had their what lowest dynamite in the history of the show.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
So it's like, yeah, but you know what I'm gonna
I'm changing my opinion on this and I want him
in a W because I want him to beat the
fucking dog shit out of a Hangman Page. I want
him to get in the ring with Hangman Page and
Hangman Page tries to have his same bullshit, dull fucking

(54:48):
match and then Matt Riddle just straight kicks him in
the fucking nose. I'd be like, that was great, what
a match? And then he's like can I'm a teddy beuck,
Like yeah, dude, here it is like, you know what, Matt,
I'm putting this into the ether, all right, Matt reddle,
I will get you anything you want from Build a Bear.

(55:08):
Anything you can pick two things, so three things from
Build a Bear. If you can get into AW and
straight kick fucking Hangman Page of the nose, that would
be best best case scenario, Like just get into the
match would be like a title match, right, and then
Riddle goes out there with this pink hair and and

(55:30):
Hangman's like, all right, man, so I'm gonna do my
karate fucking backflip because that's what cowboys do. Of course,
cowboys favorite things to do or backflips, and you know, yeah,
it sounds sounds good, man. And then Riddle just fucking
leans back and just kiyah right to the fucking side
of the head and then just pins them three things

(55:52):
from bil Dee Bear, dude, whatever you want, big, big
fucking stuffies. Big you picked up big stuff you dude.
We'll put that, We'll put a heart in it, will
record a voice look at that, dude. Anything anything you
want from the build of Bear.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
No.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
I mean, people still have expectations of this guy. Like
I said, he pissed away two opportunities to be a
millionaire two and that's what the fuck is. And by
the way, all the ship, aside of all the hit
that he got accused of and how fucked up he
was and all the drugs that he was, you know, doing,
and all that and whatnot, there's still a part of
me that believes I would rather deal with him than

(56:27):
Seth Rollins. But that's neither here nor there. You know, well, I.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
Mean they made their choice. They chose Seth Rawlins over
Matt Riddles.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
I'm not gonna say they were wrong. And they said.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
So Rowlins isn't a go gad.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
I mean, that's really kind of ye. And he sucks,
but he's not like I'm gonna show up to your
building but the fucking pink pigtails built out. You got
to pick a babysitter. This guy is really fucking annoying,
or the guy that might show up and give the
kids some fucking Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
Seth Rollin's voice though, why does he talk like dadd
He's always chrittin his jawn?

Speaker 1 (57:11):
Oh he clogged up. Yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
He's just clearing his throat. Guys, it's not a laugh,
he's just clearing it.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
Yeah, you know what I think he needs? He you know,
I don't think he did enough drugs. Probably he sucks.
Probably he sucks so fucking bad. Can somebody Matt Matt
Reynold's a shame you did not get along with Seth
and give him some hallucinogens. Maybe he'd be a little
more creative.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Holy fuck, Yeah, dude is weird. Davenport was weird. Yeah,
I don't know, it's just a few other places. But man,
I understand. I understand Seth Rollins so much more now,
I really do. Joe, you gotta go to at least
a Davenport one of the d's des Moine Davenport one

(57:59):
of them, and you will understand why Seth Rollins is
the way he is. Oh my god, I hope the
Chicago Bears become the des Moines Bears. I really do
take them. We don't want them.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
That is a solid you know what. I once again
don't like the guy. That's still kind of cruel.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
Hey, you know what, hotels were fifty bucks, right, I
can't bitch about that.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
That's always a good sign.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
Gas gas was two dollars and forty cents. I can't
bitch about that. Two dollars and forty cents. I don't
even think we had that in Chicago in twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
Dude, I was gonna say, there's always a good it's
always a very good sign of the quality of life
in a place when the prices reflect that of the
fucking pre nine to eleven. God, so shit, Hey man,
you got a banana here for a Penny. I'm like,
oh fuck, what's going on?

Speaker 2 (58:54):
There were food franchises I haven't seen in ten fucking years.
At least they had an A, an A and W
Long John Silver's Biracial Food drive through. Just like, what
what is this monstrosity?

Speaker 1 (59:13):
For some reason, I completely do not but also completely
understand when you say a biracial food drives. Yes, like
I almost I almost know exactly what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
You know, everybody knows, it's just I'm putting in it
to words.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
Come on, that's like when you go to the Long
John Silver's fucking combos. Yeah, Taco Bell, right of course?
Is it Taco Bell? I think that's what. Yeah, that's
the one that.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
Well they know. The one that they did in Iowa
was Long John Silver's and A and W root Beer.
The A and W. Did you you've never been to
an A and W fast food place? Let me tell you.
The burgers taste like they're all frozen.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
Oh perfect you ever you ever.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
Get those frozen? Like? It comes in a meat too
Ettie's for like three dollars. It's like a pounds of
frozen meat tube. And A and W makes all of
their burgers out of meat tube, frozen meat Tube.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
I must say, I am always insulted when I try
new fast food. Yes, and it's just really fucking bad.
I'm like, you don't even have to attempt to make
this healthy? Why is this so bad? You know, like
just slather it in fucking mayonnaise and cheese and grease
and bullshit, Like you don't have to fool me into thinking, like.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
The freezer burn is so prominent, Joe, it's part of
the flavor.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
It's Try the new Eskimo burger.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
The food there was just brutal.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
Well, I gotta ask because at least the root beer good.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
Well yeah, but I mean that's that's like the only
thing they got, right.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
Yeah, I would hope at.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
Least syrup syrup and ice creamy bresh Jesus.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
I would like, I would like if you went there
and I was like, man, I don't know, Man, the
burgers are bad, the fries are terrible, shakes aren't particularly good.
Pretty much most of the menu is awful, and it's
like it's so hud, how's the root beer? Oh, that's
also terrible. That also for some reason, it's also terrible,
Like it's just the worst. So it fails on every level.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
You know, the downtown was really weird. It's a lot
of trailer trash, bougie is what it is. And what
I mean by that is the downtown is very artsy.
They have like an art college there, and like a
lot of the stores on the outside look run down
and beat up, but you go in there and it
feels like nineties punk. You know, there's like, I mean,

(01:01:41):
the stores inside were nice, but there's this weird art field,
but when you walk outside, it's like mid nineties Detroit.
It's just it's it's a it's a mix of emptiness
and a little bit of crime, but you don't you
don't see the crime. You just knew it took place somewhere.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
You feel it in your bones, right, Yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
Could get snatched and no one would know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
Oh god, I'm trying to think of there's a which hotel.
Is it one of the hotels in Vegas? I think
it's the Flamingos, one of them where they're like, there
was so much horrific shit that happened there that people
walk into it and they're like, this just feels icky.
I think it's was it Circus one of them? They're like, yeah, man,
there's all sorts of fucked up shit that I if

(01:02:28):
you're just in there, you kind of just like feel
the ghost of a murdered Italian and you just but uncomfortable,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
But you have these people walking down the street right
like there's broken cobblestone. First off, they have cobblestone roads
that that blew my mind right off the bat. Some
of the stone some of the streets are just regular
streets that all have construction on it. But the ones
that don't seem to have any construction are all these
beautiful cobblestone roads. And it's this weird mix of mansions

(01:02:58):
from like the nineteen hundreds that are absolutely gorgeous and
then these broken down looking apartment areas and the people
walking down the street. It's like this barbiesque suburban mom
wearing all pink with a dress and walking her fufu
dogs with a Louis Vatan over broken gravel and glass bottles,

(01:03:21):
and it is mind blowingly it is like an Andy
Warhol painting. It is just weird and obscene, and they
do I know it was a joke at the beginning
of the show, but there was absolutely an antiqu lady.
They laughed just like.

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
I would love if you found out somehow with the
grape vind that was like his great aunt.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
It's a laugh that's passed down through the family.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
It's a generational laugh. Yeah, yeah, dude, you know what.
It's funny you described that, and it reminds me of
the fact that no matter where you go now, because
the Internet just does its job, you can be somewhere
that's just insanely completely whiskey tango, total fucking white trash.

(01:04:08):
And like you said, it looked very nineties, So there's
a difference between something looking as though it was maintained
and the intent is for you to feel like it's
a throwback, and then there's just like it's just trashy.
It's whole an old burger king.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
It's holding on to its last bit of life. That's
what it's doing in instead of just letting it go,
instead of just sinking into the fucking Mississippi like it should,
it's just holding on. And we don't know why, and
and me and the missus are just walking around checking
out these places, and it's like every store we go

(01:04:43):
into it like there's people working there, but there's nobody there.
We're walking his blocks. We're walking blocks and there are
cars up and down the blocks, but nobody's getting in them,
nobody's driving away. It is those wild this vibe, it
is just weird. It's like, we know there's people here

(01:05:04):
because somebody had to pay for this, but there's nobody around.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
One of the craziest things too, right is look, we're
all used to the like the downtown atmosphere. Downtown Chicago
has a lot of one way streets that are multiple lanes.
Most streets, at least out of Davenport, we're all four
or five lanes in one direction. So if you missed
something new, now you got to go four miles up

(01:05:28):
that way and then turn around and go back on
another one way five lane highway street back the other
way to try and go back around the third time.
It was awful. Red lights. What does a red light.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
Mean, Joe? I mean stop unless Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
Red light means that you can make a right turn
from the left lane and it's legal in Iowa.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
All right, that's that's excessive from the left lane.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
From the left lane. It blew my mind because even
my Google is screaming at me, make a right turn
from the left lane. I'm like, why wouldn't I make
a right turn from the right lane?

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
That's that's really fucked up.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
Red lights are optional.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
Well, you know what, sometimes people describe certain states to
me and their behavior of the people there, and then
I go, oh, this is why I why do I
expect anything of some of these places.

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
It's Internet or everybody's just breaking the law there twenty
four to seven. I mean, it's one of the other.
You know, it's it's either you guys are actually supposed
to drive like this, or every Google's telling me to
break them.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
Aw, they're just like, oh, I will say this though.
One of our classics, one of our well, at least Massachusetts,
one of our favorite things to do is five. I
think anywhere between five to seven people are allowed to
go through the red light at an intersection, like after
it's already earned. Yeah, oh, that's a guarantee. It's a guarantee.

(01:07:04):
Like if you think just because the light's green for you,
now you're gonna get gridlocks, Like it's just it's almost
a fucking promise. And by the way, it's not like.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
Chicago will do one. You might get an asshole that
does two. Off the yellow.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
Oh no, it's a fucking venga bus.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
It's like a whole caravan of motherfuckers will do that.
And by the way, they will look at you sitting
here waiting with no shape, completely gridlocked, six fucking cars deep.
And these aren't you know, these these aren't ruffians. These
aren't people that you would be like, ah, look at
this fucking asshole. These are like full on regular ass

(01:07:43):
people with children in their children in their car, right,
and they're just like, yeah, hit me, go ahead. You're like, wow,
well this is great. Things are going well, but I'd
still rather live here than fucking Davenport, Iowa.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
The suburbs where all the malls are and are busy.
I will say it was it was nice to see
life outside the Walmart. I was like, oh, look, honey,
that's where everybody's at. They're at the Walmart.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
They're partying in the fucking subway. Yeah Walmart. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
Yeah. We went to a bunch of oriental rugs and
stuff places, which was, you know, kind of a throwback.
My favorite part was going into the oriental rug places
and the whitest white person that ever whited was the
manager there. I'm like, okay, well, that's just I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
Well, well, at least at least they had the decency
to not tape back their eyes. That's that's good them.

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
You're right, she could have had a white fum on
chew as well. But it was it was.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
It was. You could have been coming in and should
have been like quick, put on the fucking robe or something.
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
Oh dude, they were playing the Beg's in the background too,
just to really sell it. You know, it's just, hey,
you guys want an oriental rug, here's the Beg's.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
Everybody knows the Asia's most popular band.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
At least play some K pop or something.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
Fuck, oh man, see you know what. I stay away
from that ship like Voldemort. I know you don't talk
about I don't know what. I don't know what's happening.
I think I've heard that one. There's like one song
by the is it the guys where they're like that,
what makes you beautiful? Something like? I don't know, but
I don't. I don't bring up there. I don't invoke

(01:09:24):
their spirits because people get you think wrestling fans are
fucking demons.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
Have you heard about North K pop? North K pop?

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
Is that that is that a real thing is that
as like Lida is great, Lida is great, Lida is
so great, Leader is great and just and they just
sit there and they do like the arm movements like
left to right and leader is great. Leader is great,
he is so great. And Kim Jongon's just sitting there.
He's like, I fucking I love this.

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
Yeah, they're all making They're all making simply irresistible movements,
you know, like the girls in the back simply you're Jesus.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
Could you could you picture at some point being a well,
I mean, you've lived a normal life, so maybe it's
if it's all you've got known, but now like, well,
I mean normal compared to being the dictator of a nation. Well,
so I think you're like, imagine you're a fucking a dictator.
And they're like, oh, man, like this new you want

(01:10:25):
to hear like the new songs in the radio, and
they're just like you are great. You are so good
and so great. I'd be like, man, no one's just
writing about I used to play that anything else? Man,
that's fucking weird.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
Were you weren't you around for that? When I was
playing the North Korean Hour, there was some of the Tube. Yeah,
there was a YouTube channel for a while there. I
think they got I think they got sniped because I
haven't seen them in a minute. But they would play
weekly episodes of the North Korea Hour and it was
like an hour of their television, which is all they
gave them, because that's all you get in North Korea

(01:10:57):
is one hour. But they'll take that one hour and
repeat it all day, over and over and over again,
because I mean, why wouldn't you if you're a dictator
with an MK ultra.

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
So it's like that Ridiculousness show on MTV. Absolutely, yes,
but yeah, twenty four hours a day, seven days away yet.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
But yeah, Davenport was okay. We went to a couple
other places, to little no name towns, but Iowa was fine.
It's really cheap there, really cheap to live. Like I said,
the mansions. So there were areas that the absolute just
beautiful plantation like mansions were just my god. They look

(01:11:36):
like they're million dollar homes, some of these places. But
they all look like they're out of time. It's like
it was a snapshot of different periods of time, Like
you know, there were some that looked like before the
Civil rights movement, and then after the civil rights movements,
like there were clearly definitions in the structure.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
They were saying they had fences are not fens. Yeah
I gotcha, Yeah, yeah, I gotcha. Well, dude, that's also
when you're in some of these places that are just
let's call them what they are, just tasteless shanty towns
masquerading as cities. In places that are older, we have
style in history, in class and architecture and all of

(01:12:23):
these neat things like how many people do you think
that made beautiful skyscrapers in Chicago or New York or
like just just amazing places in cities in the Northeast
made their way to fucking Davenport, Iowa. You know what
I mean? How many of those people you think made
it there? I'm thinking.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
I'm sure quite a because they remember, I mean, that
whole area, especially on like Molein and stuff, was like
probably the furthest north they went before they started sending
everything to Chicago.

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
Right, Oh, so, how many hours the way is it
from Chicago?

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
Two and a half. We took the long way because
I like to actually see the cornfields and stuff. It
was about it was about three and a half hours
driving it through the streets.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
Yeah, all right, so they're close enough. Maybe you got
some people, some people got some Italians that were building things,
and like I said.

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
They were called absolutely. I mean, you can definitely tell
that Moline, Illinois was direly desperate in comparison to Davenport.
Davenport was rich. When you look at Moline, Illinois, Moline,
Illinois is is where the real poverty crept up. Like
they were there, lawns were mode optionally, so streets were

(01:13:41):
fixed optionally. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
Well, you know, there's all these different incentives that different
states are doing. I think you and I talked about
it during COVID where they were trying to pull in
online workers and content creators and digital people because it
was like, yeah, please come to our area and we'll
give you, you know, tax rebates or whatever the fuck right.
And I do think to myself sometimes, if you're one

(01:14:07):
of these people that makes, you know, one hundred fucking
grand a year play in fucking roadblocks or whatever, I
don't know, why would you not just go buy a
fucking dumb house in one of these places you should
and just live like a fucking king, like an actual king.

Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
Joe, You're not even wrong. One one night, one good
night on the river bo casino, and you've got yourself
a house in Malline, Illinois.

Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
You know what. A couple good months playing Fortnite, and
you get some kids to steal their parents' credit cards
and send you a few thousand bucks. All of a sudden,
you got yourself a fucking You get yourself a three
bedroom house in the middle of East bumpfuck. But hey,
it's right off, it's yours.

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
Hey, do one of those Fortnite dances on TikTok like
bellow porch and make yourself, you know, fifty dollars and
you can own your own home. Right.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
I wonder how long it would take for people to
well know kiss people on the internet would find out immediately.
This is a stupid idea. It's gonna say, if there
was like a town where it was was like those
weird fucking girls that would just wear like caddiers and pread.

(01:15:24):
I meant some were cheap. Man, You just created some
town and they're just like it's like Cleaverville. It's just
all cleaned. It's just tank top town. What is this town?

(01:15:45):
It's full of women that wear low cut shirts and
then play video games on the internet.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
Boys Shortsville. What do they do there? They wear boys shorts.

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
They've infuced billions of dollars into the economy. Like, wow,
you guys are really over taxed them. Know, they just
make more money than everyone else. They're paying this, paying
their reasonable share. We're just taking so much. We don't
know how. We have no idea how they're doing it,
no clue whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
That one's two million dollars for a studio apartments.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
Yes, they just said, you know what, you just sell
them the house for like eight bucks. Just selling the
house for fucking nothing, and then just just goalct the
average Dax buddy just be like, here's a big fucking
mic mansion for you to live in, and you can
set up your studio gimmick and all that. And I
don't know, we'll build like a Starbucks at Chipolte, a

(01:16:37):
Sweet Green, and a couple fucking gyms for you guys
to just chill and go to. I mean, I think
right now I'm describing a brothel. But I think I
think I'm getting into like free range Andrew Take territory
that's going on.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
We need to put this up on Kick Joe. That's
what this needs.

Speaker 1 (01:16:58):
Ki Yasha Jackson. I have a business opportunity for you, sir.
He just starts beating the ship out of me. He
starts punching me through the fucking punching me through the
phone like soldier boy kisses through the phone and just
like beating me to death. God, that's a brilliant idea.
I'm gonna kill you for it and be like.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
We could share, we could share. I don't know. It
wasn't real. But if if you're gonna if you're gonna
hold fake fights, then you shouldn't talk real. Did you
hear his stupid dad when he said he said that,
he literally said that about Raja, if you're gonna be
involved in fake fights and you shouldn't talk real?

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
Oh oh my god. Yeah, God helped.

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
I'm like, no, maybe Raja really doesn't know it's not
fake anymore. I'm back to that side of the argument
because look at the so look at the apple that
he fell from. That that is his dad sage advice.
If you're gonna talk, I mean real sport fight thing,
don't fake fight with real talk.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
Do you think I should have do you think I
should offer Rajah or excuse me Rampage Jackson and Matt
Riddle a fight for four Build a Bears.

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
Oh, I think what you should do is you should
make the fight for the actual build of Bears, but
then don't show up. Just just make charity, no, just
just make them believe that each one of them has
the Build a Bear. Things like Rampage Jackson actually thinks
that Matt Riddle has it and he has to beat
Matt Riddles for it, And Matt Riddle thinks that Rampage

(01:18:34):
Jackson has the build of Bear stuff and he has
to beat Rampage Jackson for it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:37):
It's like CTE saw there you go, yeah where I'm like,
he has the key that will unlock your Teddy Bears
fucking holding seal Toddy Animo Tuddy yo and that did.
They'll have a big fight over it, and then I
can televise that fight and post put it over kick

(01:18:59):
and then all the girls in Tittytown can live commentate
over it. You hear this, Guys, people just give you
idea like they try to sell you ideas on how
to make money. I'm just giving them away.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
Yeah, I mean, this is nowhere near as good as
having Bailey show up on Friday instead of a j Lee.
But it's pretty close, Joe.

Speaker 1 (01:19:20):
I think this is I think what I've been saying
for the last five minutes are the voices that Bailey
hairs in her head. I'm sure, and she's like, Bailey,
take your money and open up a weird influence.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
I heard those voices on Monday last week.

Speaker 1 (01:19:34):
They were I love I will say me even sitting
there having some sort of expectation or to be like
Adam Pierce should actually punish these people. I'm like, dude,
they do voiceovers of voices in people's heads. You're the
idiot for thinking any of this should make sense and
have value.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
So good God, wrestling, Soop, everybody, Much love. We'll do
a little Frank and Guss or something. Much love be.

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Speaker 2 (01:20:11):
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