SETH'S SYMPHONY INTERRUPTED or THE ASTONISHING ADVENTURES OF SIMPLE JEY (Wrestling Soup 5.6.25)

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
To you for I'm sure I don't.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Rustley Soup.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
I am Anthony Thomas, He's Josephine Numbers.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
No I'm not.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
I'm Dave Mustaine or Seth one or the other.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
But well, you know what, they should put those things
together on telling you.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
I'm Dave Mustain and I'm Seth Rawlins Banana Banana.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Hello me, it's another fucking samsy match again. But Anna, no,
I shouldn't have started out of that way. This was
a much much better episode of RADD than the previous week.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yeah no, it's actually that.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Was not stiff competition, so let's also remember that. But
this was a much much better episode of Raw.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Honestly, it had better surprises.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
I was.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
I was geeked to see Russo's first match back for
what it was, and I was highly geeked to see
fucking shame has come out of the moth balls.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
That was nice. Yeah, dude, what a week. But okay,
now let me make this half full half empty, though
it away already all right, I'm going to say this
was a good episode of the show. But yeah, you
know what, I'll present it as a question and said,
does this make you any more interested in the Paper

(01:30):
View on Saturday.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yes, really, yeah, yeah, yeah, actually did matter of fact,
it's probably the it's probably the match that you're not
even thinking about that makes me more interested. Okay, bird Girl,
bird no, no, no, hold on, hold on. So bird Girl,
for the first time in her career, has exuded personality

(01:51):
she had she she all of a sudden, had snappy
comebacks to Becky and I just want to see the
fucking the the internal busflip. I want to see the
car accident that is going to happen in this match,
because I have a feeling it is going to be
monumentally bad.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Oh this this is going to be like, hey, hold
my beer to what Charlotte did at WrestleMania. I feel
like it was.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
I think, yeah, it's it's going to be atrocious. It's
not because Becky is not ready Becky for whatever Becky
used to have right in all in all honesty, For
as much as Becky used to have, she doesn't have
it anymore. And if this match is her way of
passing the torch over to Lyra, Lyra doesn't. Lyra's snappy

(02:41):
comebacks were like the kid that throws the one lucky
punch before he gets put under the water to drown.
That's what it was like.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Oh, you landed one kid, goodbye, Like this is like
Mike Tyson punch out when Little Mickey gets like one
punch and yeah, no, honestly, it feels weird to start
out with that segment, but it really was the biggest
egg laid on the show, no pun intended, because the

(03:11):
crowd was really into this, fucking pretty much this whole
thing top to bottom, and I was like, Wow, apparently
Nebraska was real hungry for ww RE because they were
even chanting for shit that you wouldn't have thought they
would have been into.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
The Eosky in Roxanne Perez match was really good. Yeah,
And honestly it was probably the first time I looked
at Eosky and go and went internally and thoughts to myself,
this makes Oscar not being around feel a lot better.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
It helps a little bit. Yeah, yeah, she's she's starting
to have an actual personality emerge. And this might be
the only way where you can convince people that Roxanne
is a heel too, is because she's equally as we Yeah. Yeah,
you got two teeny women in there, so it makes
you go, oh, it's not as insanely obvious as the

(04:06):
fact that like you're trying to make her. It was
like the whole thing that happened with Roxanne and Rhea,
where it's like this is ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
That was ridiculous. But Roxanne and Neil, Okay, I'm fine
with that. They matched up really well. Obviously, what else
we have? We had Otis and russ I mean, I'll
go down the list real quick. We had Otis and
Rossev and that was that was fun too, two big
fucking hosses out there, and it was a good job
by the play by play guys saying that the reason

(04:34):
that Russev really wants his match is because he thinks
that Otis is a fat, out of shape moron and
he could be a fucking killer. And I'm like, well, god, damn,
just pluck that right from my head.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Well that's relaxed, because I like Otis, but I don't
know about the second part. Oh, I don't think he
could be a killer. I think he's great as Hillbilly Jim.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
He did, okay when he was a heel. I liked
him as a heel when he was just silent there. Yeah, no,
he was fine.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
It was fine.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
He's a better baby face than he is a heel,
but I would still take him as a heel over nothing, oh.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
By a country mile, I would take him as a
I mean over some other people, yes, for sure, but no,
I mean that was this show actually had a lot
of fun matches. There were more fun matches on this
card than I feel like the pay per view will
on Saturday, which is a good bad thing. I guess
you could say, well.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
Let's start off at the beginning. Let's start off with
Paul Hayman and Jay Whu's and Jay Whu's so comes
out there, grabs a random white kid, makes him yeat
kid looks very scared at the moment, but that's okay.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
That's that. Thank god, we all have context for that.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
You know what I mean, Mommy, why is this random
colored person grabbing me in the eye.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Just yet? That's your little fucking.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
Mons this mother.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
The headline is perfect well, now, I mean, he's originally
a San Francisco man, but I was gonna say Florida Man, perfect,
perfect work. But Florida Man yeats small white child in Nebraska.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
First, so he comes out of the ring, and then
of course the crowds like yeat again, and so Jay
is that I guess that's his new shtick now, is
just yeat till they don't want you to eat anymore
so they're not interested.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
That's a good idea.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
But then Paul Hayman comes down there, interrupts him and
kind of goes on this tirade about how Jay russo
is is has like the balls to talk about betraying
the family and betraying Roman reigns and see them punk
and he goes off on this little tirade, which was
interesting for Paul because Paul usually doesn't get that lost

(07:06):
in the sauce. Like Paul Haman is usually pretty composed,
at least in the level of anger. You don't usually
see Paul Haman angry, and it was interesting to see
Paul Haman kind of gosh of all his promo skills.
I mean, that's a weird thing to say about fucking Paul.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
To explain it that way, but yeah, right, I mean,
I mean, the guy, the guy. At this point, it's like,
if he had any interest in it and they found
the right role for him, clearly he should be acting
in films.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Well, I mean, I mean not everybody's a roller ball.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
I don't know. The only thing that I could majorly
kind of nitpick this was bron Bron Strowman, who, well,
he's got free time, not anymore, Bron Breaker should be
standing next to him this whole time, because Hayman is
just kind of shitting on this guy, dumping on his family, this,

(08:04):
that and the other thing, and Hayman's looking real confident
about it, and I'm like why why, It's like, for
what it's worth, Hayman is clearly at his best when
he's like a weasily afraid guy. And the fact that
he's he's standing in the ring with the heavyweight champion

(08:24):
as a sixty something year old man shaped like a
fucking coconut and he's talking shit directly to his face
and there's no buffer. That's not the best look. That's
not the best look. That's why you need the meatheads,
you need the security guards, you need somebody there to
stand next to Hayman so he finds his extra nut,

(08:45):
you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely I agree with you. But it
was also crazy to see him angry. Like I said that,
that part of the promo is really odd to me.
It wasn't bad It's just kind of shell shocked me
a little bit because that's not a Paul Haman true
when you're right, he is the Weasley guy. He's the
please don't hurt me guy, and he's been doing that
for so many years you forget how many layers this

(09:09):
guy can go. So I was kind of impressed by that.
Matter of fact, I gotta say it was a weird
evolution evolutionary night for Paul Hayman in general, from the
way that he was cutting promos, even with the way
he was handling bron Breaker backstage. It wasn't the atypical
way that he handled the Bloodline for years, or brock
Lesnar or any of these guys. It was almost like

(09:31):
he was talking down to bron Breaker a little bit
and giving him the come over here to the learning
tree while patting on his knee and then yes.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Oh teach you something, right, which.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
Yeah, we know, we know in the real world that's
probably like the fucking truth is if Paul Hayman's gonna
teach you something, going to be like, oh tell me more, Paul.
But in the context of the show and the weight
with seth rollins like it was very suck uppy to
Seth Rollins and not saying that he didn't do that

(10:02):
shit for Roman, but it just felt undeserved. It's like, dude,
he just sided with this motherfucker a couple of weeks ago,
and now you guys already have this back and forth
where I like to tell everybody when I'm right, I
like to tell everybody I told you so, and and
allow me to tell you Paul, I told you so.
And Paul's like, oh he did. He did tell me though,

(10:25):
he told me bro, And I'm just like, what the
fuck is this? I don't know?

Speaker 2 (10:33):
And this and by the way, this is how I
know that fucking Seth is like a proxy fucking Gundam
for Triple H because he does the same exact bullshit
that Triple H does, where it's like I'm a heel,
but I'm smarter than everybody, and I'm a heel, but

(10:53):
I gotta be cooler than everyone. I'm a heel, but
I want you all to steal secretly like me so much.
Like that's all triple A shit.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
But Paul Hayman doesn't love that. Paul Hayman always plays
stupid and then wows everybody when he knows better than
everybody else, Like Paul Hayman is the reverse of that.
And this once again, for years, you gotta take this
into accounty. For years, he's been doing the Oh, you're
just underestimating the fat guy. You're just underestimating the old man.

(11:23):
And it's like, no man, like he's listening. And countless times,
Paul Hayman has been the surprise factor. Even in the
way that Seth Rollins won WrestleMania was the surprise factor,
like we could guess it, and we did, and a
lot of people even in the discord, absolutely guessed it
that Paul was going to turn in the film.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
It was so fucking obvious, be real.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
But now with Seth Rollins, it's the exact opposite. Oh,
of course you knew everything.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
You're the greatest.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
It's like, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
I fucking hate this. I mean, I'm not even gonna
pull it in on that. I fucking hate this because
I clearly don't fucking give a shit about anything said
where Allins does Hayman.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
I don't Seth, but bron Breaker is the one I
really care about.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Right right, I mean, Hayman was out there fighting for
his fucking life. For that promo, and he did a
hell of a job. And by the way, this is
another instance where we keep ending up in these situations
where the heels are too right right, the heels are
too correct, where he's like, yeah, Roman took off on
me and left me with these fucking assholes to beat

(12:32):
the shit out of me, And I'm like, yes, he's correct.
This isn't an instance like okay, if you'd have had
told the story that it was like, okay, Roman Reigns
left after losing because he broke his collar boat make
some bullshit up right, whatever it was, he had a

(12:53):
death in the family or somebody, his kid, something, anything
anything otherwise, he was like, yeah, no, I'm just I am,
legitimately just fucking off and going on vacation. So when
Hayman goes, yeah, he left me there to get to
get my ass kicked, it's like, yeah, he's too right.
He's too right as a heel. There's no perspective here

(13:13):
where you go, oh, Hayman, you weasel. You know why
he wasn't there because xyz, And it's like, no, he's correct.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
It's this weird thing that the best heels are the
ones that take real world situations, and they twist it
into their favor or into their factor exactly. And in
this scenario, the factor would have been I joined with
the bloodline and I turned on Roman because Solo's bloodline
was better. That would have been the heel type promo. Instead,

(13:45):
he made it play out like I was just terrified
those guys were gonna kill me at any point. And
it's like, unfortunately, that was too close to the way.
Most people would have been like, yeah, yeah, big old
fucking Jacob over there waiting to eat you.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
I mean I probably would have fallen in line too.
And I think that's the problem is that Paul Hayman
is too close to the fire. It's like he's up
a little bit and realize that, yes, you're right, that
is the empathetic factor of how you handled that situation.
But the problem is is in order for you to
regain or stay as this heel persona that you've had

(14:23):
for so long, you have to make it seem like
choosing violence was the wrong way and not the only way,
and the way you've done things with your career. Now
it's starting to fall place into it being the only way,
and it's like, well, people can't rally against that people.
Although he did get a great boom holy shit when

(14:43):
he told people, don't you fucking boom me? They went off.
Man Omaha took that personally, I was like, rippers, thank
you convey that why they would man? That audience was
on another level too, man, And I can't wait to
talk about it because there's this a specific time where
I was really impressed with that crowd. But yeah, no, obviously,

(15:04):
Paul Haymen came out there to tell Jay, look, Seth
wants your fucking belt and whenever you feel like it,
we'll make a match. And Jay's like, oh, oose, well
but tonight oose And I was like, huh, okay, and
there we.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Go, which, by the way, that also does make Jay
look a little dumb. Oh quite que. That also makes
Jay look dumb.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
Like.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
This is where I'm looking at this, and I'm going,
this seems like there's too many holes in this for
so many people who are fucking really smart right now
to be involved in it. This is where I'm looking
at it though, and going, Okay, this is where we're
filling into blanks. This wasn't a long term fucking decision.
This probably was just fucking thrown together. Now, now with

(15:52):
that said, maybe though self correct and the next time
Roman comes in and he has a has a promo,
it's not just him being like, oh, big dog, look
at my fucking chili pepper necklace. Oh Paul wise me.
He should get on there and say, Paul, you know
why I didn't come back to help you give a

(16:15):
real reason or something that resembles a real reason. Say
you know that I was hurt. You know that after
defending that belt for five years, that my body was
broken down. I woke up one morning I couldn't even
get out of bed. My wife had to prop me up.
And I'm looking at her and she had tears in
her eyes, and all she's thinking about is the stories

(16:37):
that she's heard from all the people in my family,
from all the women about their husbands and how they
had to do that and this was the rest of
their lives. And she's thinking, is this the rest of
my life? And I said, you know what, I gotta
stay home, I gotta take care of myself. I gotta
do this for her, and I gotta do this for me.

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And Paul, at the end of the day, you have
made me. You might have been a wise man. You
might have brought me to your island, whatever the fuck,
but you're never going to be relevant. Yeah, you're never
going to be the love of my life. You're never
going to be the mother of my children, whatever it
would be. You don't make some shit up to make
it make sense.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
The only thing I disagree with is about the part
of jay Uso. I like jay Uso being a dumb champion.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
I do.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
I love that idea because.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
I like, I'm like, let's think us take us up
to as last possibly, Like you know what, jay should
be a fucking meat stick.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
Every blonde can fuck, but not every blonde knows why
so jay Uso, But ja Uso, I know why j
Uso is being covered by guys like Sammy Zain. Obviously
he's being covered by guys like CM punk. It makes sense.

(17:53):
And matter of fact, the way that the whole show
went off the air was perfect. It was seem punk
kind of holding up Sammy there, Samuel's like a little
shovel and there's Jay Usso in the corner on his
ass by the fucking by the ropes, and I'm like,
that's perfect, That's exactly how it should be. Because it
was almost a visual way of saying, this is how

(18:13):
this future picture looks. Jay Usso is a dumb champion.
He's talented, he's got the fans. That's great. Obviously they're
gonna continue with the he tapped out Gunther's shit. That's fine. Well,
we'll make the best of a bad situation there. But
that doesn't mean that jay Uso is a smart champion.
That doesn't mean that he's an intellectual. He got to

(18:33):
the dance and beat Gunther because of a Gunther flaw,
not because jay Uso is good. And I'm okay with that.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
I'm absolutely we all know jay Usso is not good.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
That's but that's that's the misnomer. That's the lie, is that, oh,
jay Usso won this title because he deserves the title. No,
jay Usso won this title because he got lucky and
found a weakness in Gunther.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
I'm mister McGoo, we're gold tease yo, right like that.
That's kind of the point that we're getting that with
him now. That was But yes, the promo itself is fine.
Like I said, though, you're just you're just leaving these
holes and all of this logic and all of the
fucking booking that I'm like, you drive a fucking semi

(19:19):
through theesus.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
I'd like to think that some of this is creative.
I'd like to believe, and you're probably right. You're probably right,
it's just major glaring oversights by creative. But I'd like
to think that these are structural flaws. These are flaws
that are intended to come up down the road when
maybe jay USO's in a match and he could easily
take the pin, but because he's a dumb dumb he

(19:43):
makes a mistake and he loses the whole thing, do you.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Know what I mean? Like, I know, it's just such
a problem because this fucking guy, I'm calling him a kid,
he's a fucking man, almost forty. This guy, they're like,
that's gonna be our next big cash cow, this is
the next John Cena and all this other shit, and
I'm watching him and I'm just going, this guy's a

(20:08):
fucking goober. He's just a fucking goofy goober.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
That's what makes me like him now a little bit more.
That's what makes me like him is because I think
that the real story booking about jay Uso is he's
stupid and people will start to real Yeah, people will
start to realize he is stupid, not even dumb, he
is fucking stupid. Like, I want somebody to question him.
I want Paul Hayman to come out there and give

(20:35):
him a math quiz and watch his brains melt.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Like I I like the idea of being like, what
if the dumbest kid you went to high school with
just failed upwards for twenty Well, here's.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
A perfect example. There's actually a bunch, but here's another
perfect example of somebody who's absolutely beloved but seemed to
be the town buffoon. Heck saw Jim Duggan, Oh yeah, wa,
I loved, absolutely beloved, but always came out there with
the dufa his face, Bobby the brain heen laid into him.
I don't know how many goddamn times for the tongue

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and the two by four, but Hacksaw Jim Duggan was
not seen as a smart wrestler. He was not seen
as a smart wrestler.

Speaker 5 (21:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
I'm just laughing at the idea though, of like, had
Hacksaw won the heavyweight title, oh wow, and them just
and them just being like, yeah, yeah, we'll make it work, right, Yeah,
but then he would.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
Have friends, though, he would have friends that were smart.
That That's the thing is Jay is surrounded by people
that are much smarter than him. Sammy Zain is much
smarter than Jay us Siam Punk is much smarter, much
smarter than Jay uso. And I kind of like that.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
And sammy'sain is clearly exponentially smarter than I know. It's
I this idea that we're just gonna make like simple Jack.
He's gonna be simple Jay, that he just you may
not bring think good. This belt don't make pants stay up?

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Oh Jay, Jay, that belt is not the same as
your belt belt. And He's just like, oh no.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
You make my eyes wet.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Why I hurt when I followed down there?

Speaker 4 (22:26):
You make me happy?

Speaker 2 (22:35):
You know what. We finally found a way to put
Nick Dinsmore at the top of the car. Yes, we
got it.

Speaker 4 (22:44):
Now we need now we need Evil Ugene to come
back and dethroat you.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
So oh man, he's outsmarting me.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
You know what.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
There's times that I think Joey should, we should definitely
be part of the creative team, and then there's conversations
like this and I'm like, thank god, we're not because.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah, I'll tell you this much. That's when they would
know that I was exhausted, you know what I mean,
Like if I was just like, Okay, now that you
are listening to me, I've got it. Jayu soo conversational retard, Yes, yes,
jay us completely all right, now hear me out on this,

(23:28):
jay jay USO. Brain damage all right, nope, nope, no,
wait wait wait wait wait wait all right. A coconut
falls on his head, gives him amnesia, yes, and he
forgets how to wrestle. Now that's already an excuse for
the fact that he sucks as bad as he does.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
All right, but wait, wait right, there's more. This is
what you do on top of it.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
You have to make sure and an additional coconut falls
on his head, and it just keeps happening every week and.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
Then but then you rehire Samantha Irvin and she announces
for him in her death metal voice, you're fucking great.

Speaker 5 (24:14):
She just yeah, she's I like that, sock yay, you
make my heart happy. Show you one to get da
fucking no, but that's yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
I don't know. I'm just not a big fan of
some of the way that they're doing that. I know
what you mean.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
I'm hoping that that's the actual story, is that Jay
is a little bits he's not primed. He's not a
cerebral assassin like Triple hwise. But let's move on to
the first match that we had was Penta versus j
D mcfoehead who's out there. They're now calling him the
iron Lung. I guess that's what they were trying to
kick off Michael Colin and Pan over there.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
They're like, Oh, that's an interesting choice.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
Calling him the iron lung, And I'm like, is that
really flattering? I mean, I guess because he survived the
lung damage, I guess.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
But I think he's I think what he's doing right
now is he's just preparing us for rfkjun your sanctions,
you know what I mean? Yes, sure, he's just he's like,
you know, I take that.

Speaker 6 (25:22):
JD mcdona guy as a boy. There's nothing wrong with
iron lungs. I'm a heroin addict and eats road kill.
But let me help you out real quick. Jady mcdona
is my favorite wrestler.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah no, the iron lung.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Okay, it was okay, it was a decent matchup for
what a week was Ballor got involved. We knew that
was coming, but yeah, no pent and JD JD. You
know it's a weird thing too, because you said this
a while ago, especially when he first got hurt. You're like,
if they don't bring this guy back, like set him
on fire when they bring him back, that they may
as well not even bring the guy back. And I

(26:00):
think by this match, specifically last night when I was
watching it, I'm like, oh, they really are trying to
show that Jade McDonald's a wrestler, because him and Penta
was really good out there. It was surprisingly I was
not expecting that match to be fun to the point
where it's like, can we can we get that again?
Can we get that again without the ballor interference? Can
we get a straight match between these two? Because I

(26:20):
was genuinely impressed, And then obviously we had Gable. Gable
came out there too, because.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yeah, so, but there's a lot of guys bubbling on
the mid card that are more interesting than what's going
on in the main event picture at this point, which yes,
I know that's so fucking pinky up hipster, whatever the
fuck you want to say it, but I'm sorry, like
it's just seth Rollins is fucking boring. Jay Usso is

(26:48):
just not fucking I don't know why, we'll get to it,
but when I'm sitting there and I'm going, oh, man,
I like a lot of what the mid card dudes
are doing, this is the least kind of fun, interesting
and different and I don't know, but yeah, this, No,
this was a good match. I think Penta is actually
starting to Earlier in his run, I was attributing a

(27:10):
lot of his decent matches to the people that he
was working against. But no, I think he's getting more
comfortable and he's understanding the WWE styles.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
So no, it's Phoenix too. I think both of them
are really coming into their own. They both belong here.
I think that that was a great acquisition by WWE,
and I mean, never mind all the Triple A stuff
and the rumors that are going around, I think that
if he's going to be one of those guys that
bridges the gap between the Triple A promotions in Mexico
and WWE, he'll be a good fucking ambassador for it.
He really will.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
So I can't wait for Alberto del Rio to come back.
What a good idea that name. That's a good idea.
Let's see how that goes.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
He's only contracted for I forget which pay per view
it is, which event it is. But then after that
he's a free agent, so they probably won't pick him
back up.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
I fucking really hope not. But the whole thing going
around is that he's going to go actual return, which no, thanks,
maybe not. Maybe we're past the point of saying, hey,
this guy should get a shit together. He can. I'm
gonna go out on the limit, say.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
Well, think about it like this. WWE hasn't hired Page.
I mean, she's she's been looking to get back in
the company, and she's been on the ground floor for
a few minutes now, and I don't hear anybody's phone ringing.
And technically he is involved with WWE, but according to
Melter and everybody else, that the ink hasn't been fully
signed or there's some red tape or whatever the fuck

(28:33):
it is that they're waiting on that. So technically del
Rio isn't really signed with WWE yet. So, I mean,
I guess it's all still up in the air, right,
It's all we don't we don't know the whole story.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Joe yeah, why don't we. You know what, maybe those
two crazy kids should get back together. That would be
a good idea too. Yeah no, no, bring bring it
all back, you bring back del Rio, you bring back Page, you.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
Bring back the cocaine and the awkward, awkward boarding flights videos.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Yeah, yeah, no, that's good. That's a really good idea.
And then, by the way, if they were to bring
back del Rio after all the shit that he's done,
that would add so much more credence to all these
people that were like, why did you fire random NXT
bum number five? It's like, you're not wrong at that
point when you're bringing back a literal fucking crackhead. So
I like that.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
Eddie Putt posted up that Triple Mania is going to
have a angel via Berto, So that's good.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
I like those guys. I think they should probably be
on television actually in a fucking tag team.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
Really you don't like that?

Speaker 2 (29:36):
Okay? All right, No, I know I like them, like,
I think they should actually be on fucking TV. They
need a manager or something because they don't have.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
Well not Santo's Escobar and Electro Lopez, I mean definitely
not electric at this point. I like Sanchez, I really
do I think he does a good job. Anyways, we're
we're getting off topic. We're getting on Saturday. But yeah,
so the match was fine. We had a little bit
of backstage stuff with Dominic and Finn where Dominic is like,
I didn't know being an inner cut Hill champion was

(30:04):
going to be so hard man. That was kind It's like,
what did you do like one defense?

Speaker 2 (30:11):
You're right, well, but that's also what goes into his hole.
I'm a fucking spoiled NEPO baby. Yeah, kind of gimmick,
you know what I mean, Like that works for him.
Where let's not forget dom is a heel. Like when
it's all said and done, no matter how much you
like him or how funny he can be or we
are all kind of looking at him at this point
going hey, good job, he is still a heel. He

(30:33):
is still raven stereo sun. He still leans into that,
you know what I mean. But now, honestly, I know
that AJ is starting to wind down, but this is
like one of those moments where I'm looking and saying, yeah,
this is well.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
That was the thing too, is Finn. Finn gives him
kind of like the snap back, and he's like it's
my job to clean up your fucking messes, and Dominic
is kind of shocked. I'm just fucking with you. It's all,
oh good, Yeah, of course, I'll take care of it.
AJ comes in there, obviously to kind of present his
friendly warning, his friendly threat that he's coming for whoever

(31:09):
wins that fucking title, and that's fair. It's just AJ,
And they're making fun of the fact that he couldn't
say Intercontinental, and Dominic's kind of laughing at him, so
he said it twice. But yeah, no, that was fine.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
It was okay for what it was.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
We move on to the next match, which was Seamus
versus Awesome Theory. Grayson Waller was in the back and
he didn't want to have a match with Seamus because
he didn't know about it, so instead he tricked fucking
Awesome Theory into signing up with Pierce as being Seamus's
first opponent back, and we open up to that and Seamus.

(31:43):
Shamus came back with glorious applause. You would think that
he was the reigning conquering champion returning home, because my god,
those people were I was a static. I was a
static to see Shamus back. I'm like, Wow, the old
man is back and ready to go, and you can
definitely tell Yeah, okay, thank you. Yeah, it's just it's fine,

(32:08):
it's fine, it's fine. Seamus has plenty of time left.
I know. Michael Cole made mention of the fact that
he hasn't won the Icy Belt a few times in
the evening.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
But they're gonna try to tell some sort of story
or something along the lines with Seamus, and I feel
like they've been telling the Seamus needs the Icy title
story for what two years now. Yeah, it's been going
and going. I mean it's like Shuter, get off the
pot on that.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
Yeah, they are milking this one.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Yeah, little much. But I will say just as a prediction,
by years and we will be hearing the NFL draft
music for Grayson Waller. I think that's about done. Don't
you think I have a They were.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
Teasing it that they're headed for Splitsville. Manall are headed
for the Splitsville Splitsville, North Carolina.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
Man.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Yeah, not the most to eighth most relevant act on
the show. No, I know, that's terrible.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
No, I think that they probably are perceiving Austin theory
as still somebody that maybe they could eventually do something
with Truthfully, i'd cut bait on both of them. But
I think that Grayson Waller this coming to where it's
obviously they're gonna break them up and it's time for
Grayson to go buy bison.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
I still like Austin theory. I do. I just don't
think he's mean. I don't think he should be. If
you want to put him down on NXT for a
little bit and refine himself, I think that would help.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yeah, yeah, he's gotta he's got to do something different
than this, because let's let's call it what it is.
Generic white guy, generic fucking boys, regular haircut, good build,
biker tights, whatever the fuck.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
He's average everything. But that's the thing is he's average.
But I don't think he's capped yet. I don't think
that average is the best that Austin theory can be.
They just need to figure out a way to find
what he the best at and start focusing on that.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Yeah, let's not put him on television for twelve years
though before he gets it.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Well, that's why you bring him down a fucking NXT.
Let Sean hammer it out right right.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
I mean, at this point, I'm taking grace of Waller
shooting him out of a fucking cannon. Yes, I think
he's I think he's sucked to ass since day one.
I don't get it. They're like, oh, he's got some
personality and kind of looks like an annoying fucking Nickelodeon
kids show TV host. And I'm like, okay, well, it's
not enough to keep him on television for five years,

(34:32):
but sure. But Austin theory, yeah, I'm literally shooting him
out of a canon aDNA, Yeah, would either.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
I'm okay with that. I just I don't think he's
main roster guy. I think it's time to move him aside,
move Waller aside. But I don't get rid of Austin theory.
I keep him close enough because I really think that
that guy has a lot more to give us. It's
just he hasn't discovered yet, and it clearly being in
a tag team with hasn't helped at all.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Now.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
I think gave him a tag team with like aj
styles and he was like this still, then I'd be
with you. I'd be like fucking fire him both who cares?
But I really don't think he's had that guidance. Fuck
miss Is always making people. Why not give him as
the one of missus projects. Wells got Carmelo Hayes.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
But yeah, he's just doing with his what if what
if miss just starts forming a stable of guys with
failed pushes. That's all it is. I mean, his his
whole stable is just called the fall Off, you know
what I mean? Like just.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Almost twelve twelve months and you're out. Yes, And we
had the Carrying Cross with Kathy Kelly for a promo
where a Cross Cross is kind of developing himself too.
He's he's on the whole the devil versus the Devil
you don't line, which is great. I like that that
is something that's familiar nobody's used before. It also adds

(36:01):
that correlation that a lot of people have with Cross
being a homage to the late Sean O'Hair in a
lot of ways.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
But I like it.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
I like this version of Cross. I did see recently
when he was on CVV, you know, and I know
this happened a little while ago, but I was I
was always curious why he never shaved the head again,
and he kind of brought it back to CVV, kind
of like in the way of Finn balor and the
demon Like. Look, if I had in my head shaved

(36:30):
all the time, people would always ask me, why didn't
you throw your hair out? Why don't you throw your
hair out? So he wanted to develop his character with
his hair out so that when he finally does lose
his shit and reached that pinnacle point of his character,
then he can shave his head and really fuck with people.
And I'm like, that's that's pretty forward. That's a lot
of forward thinking there, and I really hope that this

(36:51):
pays off, because, honestly, even though they've tried multiple times
on the main roster to push Cross to the top,
whether it was giving him a trojan horse, fucking glad
eat or outfit to wrestle Jeff Hardy in, or whether
it was giving him fucking La Ring and two big
dudes to the stand in the background and look menacing,
the one thing that they never did was just rely

(37:12):
on the guy by himself. And right now it's just
him and pretty much his missus, And yeah, they're doing
a good job of being menacing, being dicks, And I
kind of like that, and I want to see where
it goes.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
I might put like how I might put Alistair Black
with him at this point, just because God only knows
that Alistair Black's gonna get lost in the mix. And
I fucking think that. I love that guy's work, I
love the entrance. I think he is incredibly fucking unique.
But they threw him back on TV like remember this guy,
and people like kind of yeah, kind of remember him.

(37:44):
You're like, no, no, no, no, he needs a fucking thing, dude,
he needs a thing. You can't give someone all this
pomp and circumstance and cool shit, and then'd be like, yeah,
but remember when this happened six years ago. It's like, no, no, man,
you got something or something more, dude.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
That's literally what I did with the whole Shana Basler thing.
I mean, that's a piggyback off of the episode that me,
you and John did over the weekend. If you guys
didn't check it out, it's up on the free feed
as well as the unedited version on Patreon. But we
talked about everybody kind of getting released. Obviously, people know
at this point there was like seventeen eighteen releases in total,
more if you're counting staff members, and one of the

(38:22):
biggest falls in my personal opinion, was the loss of
Shanna Basler because of how great she was booked in NXT,
how much of a badass she was, the way she
carried herself, And I even looked at the fact that
her body and the way that she looks, not being
another Tiffy Stratton, not being a model was to her

(38:42):
benefit of the way that she carried herself. But lo
and behold, you guys of course understand how WWE thinks
and what they like. And in the same situation with Cross,
here's somebody who cannot rest on the laurels of what
they did in NXT. And so if Cross finally gets
his push now, it'll be because of what Cross is
done on the main roster and not just because of

(39:05):
what he did in the next to you.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
No, and I think that he's he's somebody that they
want to to do well because he's a nice person
who is clearly a pretty intelligent guy, and they want
to do they want him to do well. Like that's
a big part of when they're like, oh my god,
they keep pushing this person. It's like, yeah, sometimes it's
blind nepotism. Sometimes it's like I said, a fucking gundam
proxy thing like seth rawlins where Triple H just wants

(39:29):
to crawl on his asshole and be him. But other
times it's it's quite literally that this is a good person.
We trust them to do the right thing. They're gonna
do what we ask them to do. They're not gonna
be a drunk, they're not gonna be a fucking drug addict.
They're not gonna go who around and get themselves in trouble, right,
So those and also just casually they're six' five and

(39:50):
look like a fucking. Badass so, yeah they want him
to do well, understandably but, YEAH i don't. Know hopefully
they can develop, it they can figure something.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
Fun the next segment that we go to is The
Becky lynch comes down to the ring starts Praising, Omaha
nebraska and saying that it wasn't her, fault she's a victim,
boy which was very, screechy and Then lyra's music hits
and she's, like this is the Disrespect i'm talking, About
And erra comes down there and they kind of have

(40:22):
a little bit of a verbal, barb a little verbal,
sparring if you, will to Which lyra brought up the
fact that she's been A champion longer Than becky's even
been on the roster this, year a couple of other
oddball shots of Calling Becky lynch The queen of recycling
Because becky kept talking About you're supposed to praise me
WHEN i take out the, trash WHEN i take out the,

(40:44):
garbage but instead you people boom me insinuating That, lira
we had.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
More fucking smoke For bailey than she did for Bird.
Girl it made no, sense which was funny.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
Too there was that line which was thrown out there as,
well that she's probably home calling her best friend for
one hundred dollars a minute or some, shit.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Which is pretty. Funny that Was, yes that's. What that's
What i'm. Saying she's got more fucking smoke from the
girl that ain't there than the one that's about to walk. Out, listen,
Dude i've been Around irish people my entire. Life, NO
i know this is. Surprising you look at one of
the MIRROR i know every TIME i, Do i'm. Disappointed i'm,

(41:24):
like WHY i love Casuals irish people In? BOSTON i who?
Know who? Know have you heard of this movie it's
Called The? Depaded? Yes, no, dude, no quite, literally every
recessive GENE i have trace back to My irish. People
so fuck. You but, god it's. Awful, god what a

(41:44):
terrible group of.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
People BUT, i, oh you like to have a good,
time come, on let's be.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Honest, yeah BUT i like. To but it's just that's
where my, Name it's where the nastiness in me. Lies
that's where the part of me that LIKE i just
the asshole in that's, kinky that comes from all The irish.
Shit but, No i've never seen Two irish people less
effective and very hurtful.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
Trying lyra was, trying but it was really, silly LIKE
i said it, was it.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
Was it was a fun.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
SEGMENT i opened up before we even started the show
And i'm, like, dude this was probably my favorite segment
because it's just going to lead to a god awful.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Match, yeah the match is gonna. Suck and LIKE i, said,
Like i'm sitting there And i'm going Every irish Person
i've known is so good at being nasty and hurtful and,
mean and these two just come off as fucking, Dorks
like they just come off as soft blame dorks Like,

(42:46):
Becky oh the ripped the, bird Fucking goofis comes off
as A goofis and then out comes Bird girl to
fucking virtually, anything. Anything no one. Cares it's not. Over
the thing doesn't. WORK i think she should start coming
up with the Bird lady from Fucking Home alone, too
and maybe she get a. Reaction it's royally, bad truly.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
Bad it was funny to. Me the one part of
it that genuinely struck me as funny is That irish
people are known as fighting, people that they're just quick to,
anger quick to. Fight and in the middle of the,
Promo becky does and this is, typical but the way
it was performed was the chef's. Kiss becky literally mid, sentence,

(43:32):
midword tries to fucking take a swing On, lyra AND
i think ninety nine percent of the people wouldn't have
been ready for it because it was so. Fast it
really was a matrix. Moment but Because lyra Is, irish
she is also ready to fight at any single point in.
Time so here you have this weird Mister anderson neo

(43:55):
fucking moment Where becky throws his quick punch and out of,
Nowhere lyra reverses and kicks her upside the, head AND
i was like that was so well done THAT i
don't know if anybody is actually laughing At it's Two, irish,
Drunk irish people out there swinging on each other and
they have a.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Breath what happened was was the generational trauma of all
the battered, wives all her. Genetics they just stay naturally.
React it's just like stop hitting, Me, Brian like it
just comes into their, mind like they know it was
so so.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
Fast it was actually. Okay but, YEAH i Wish.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
Lyra, DUDE i Wish lyra came out with a bottle
and chased her and tried to hit her with.

Speaker 4 (44:38):
IT i do.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
TOO i WISH i was there with a big old
bottle of malort and just swung it on.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
Her. Fuck, yeah this is. It not enough weaponry out
of The irish. People this is my this is my.
Issue i'm being. UNDERREPRESENTED i, mean isn't like everything has
shive To irish, People like shouldn't they be able to
find something to stab each other? With everything's pointy if
you try, hard you know WHAT i, Mean that's what it.

(45:06):
Is that's she Should first of, All lyra barely has,
roseaesia SO i don't know neither of them have skin.
ISSUES i don't These irish. People these aren't Real irish.
People all, right.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
Does wear about three inches of. Makeup so, NOW i,
mean let's be, honest, guys.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
Why why the fuck are we doing this? Game why
is this? Happening when one Is Becky lynch and she's,
Like i'm the, man AND i guess she's Still, IRISH i,
Suppose and THEN i, think SO i think he. DID
i think he fucked all The Bland midwest into. HER

(45:48):
i think that's what. Happened he's just, LIKE i don't
like salted foods, Either like he just, boring, boring. Boring
So becky's he's just a fucking plain. Bagel and so
then out Comes lyra and she's just, Like i'm a,
bird And i'm, like, YES i associate The irish with? Birds,

(46:11):
correct what the? Fuck and the crowd is eating it.
Up this crowd is so. Generous they were eating it.
Up oh they. WERE i wouldn't go that. Far they were.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
Actually cawing with, her they calling with, her they.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
Were scooping it up in a spoon and blowing on it.
Gently they weren't eating it.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
Up, well considering she usually gets. NOTHING i would say
that was an, eruption an eruption of.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Audio OH i was like stone cold out. There oh
look at. Me i'm like stone, cold oh, Me oh,
my what a.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
Reaction it could have been audio. Ninos but you know,
What i'm gonna pretend that people actually liked her for the.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Night it could have been.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
Audio you're, Right you're one hundred percent right in. Ninos
could have absolutely been. Audio But i'm gonna, say you know, What,
Omaha nebraska likes their bird.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
GIRLS i THINK i Think Rick rubin's back there mixing
the audio and make it sound like sound like the
fucking bird girl's over by the.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
WAY i am, man he's over there making a track
out of.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
It.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
YEAH i can almost guarantee you out of the seventy
five women on the, ROSTER i probably like lyra of
like probably more than ninety eight percent of, them she's
probably the fucking nicest. One But i'm, sorry this does not.
Work she's the only one out of the last.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
Class she's the only one out of the last class
that that gets the pass because, look even though all
the fire is still on somehow hanging on by her,
fingertips just because she's With, CHELSEA, I Kayden, Carter Katana,
Chance me and you both kind of. Agree all three
of us kind of. Agreed it's, like, yeah this is
just the end of the tag team division for the
women in the last class of women haven't been. GREAT

(47:54):
i have more faith In roxanne And julia And stephanie
mc kerr THAN i do any of the girls from
the last.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
Class SO i have more faith in Fucking roxanne THAN
i do most of these. That LIKE i, said this
is one of those things Where i'm, LIKE i can't
wait For roxand to turn babyface because that's where she's gonna.
Flourish because she's better than fucking most of these. Women
she's better than fucking Bird girl by a country, mile
at least in terms of when the time comes where

(48:22):
she decides to stop putting on poopy face and decides
to start putting on cute, like, hey, guys help me,
Out i'm getting beat. Up, like people will go with.
That they're going to hundred percent go with. That she'll
be the NEW a J. Lee Bird girl will be
the next FUCKING i don't, Know, Cherry YOU'RE i don't
know film like.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
Well speaking of The, prodigy her match was up next
with The No sky and they went out there and
they tore it. Up a lot of good back and forth,
action a lot of. Reversals the match seems very, even
WHICH i don't know if that's a positive or a.
NEGATIVE i, mean you really take it how you. WANT
i was actually just appreciating the match for what it.

(48:59):
Was BUT i understand where a lot of people don't
think That roxanne is ready to be seen as equal
to AN Eo, sky AND i understand. That but for
the sake of what the match, was and for the
sake of what kind of matches we're going to see
from these two girls in the, FUTURE i was absolutely
enamored with. IT i thought it was a lot of
fun to, watch, dude a lot of back and. Forth
LIKE i, said nothing over the, top even the way

(49:22):
that it finished Where roxanne gives her the shake the
handshake and Then julia comes in afterwards and she's, laughing
like there was just, good good throughout the entire, thing
her using the psychology of working the leg the entire,
time and Then eo bringing it back a few times
where she was in a position to win the match
but then her leg gave, Out like there is just

(49:43):
like little nuances that made this match a lot more
fun than a lot of atypical women's matches on THE wwe.
Cards so kudos to both of. Them we Know Eo
sky is a fucking great wrestler And roxanne coming up
here and being able to even work on that plateau
is a lot of fun to. Watch AND i Know
i'm repeating myself by saying, it but if more women's

(50:05):
matches were like what we saw On monday night Between
eo And, ROXANNE i don't think it would be such
a piss break with half of these.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
Girls, No, No and LIKE i said, earlier them being
about the same size as really.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
Helpful oh, dramatically so. Dramatically so, yeah you're. Right when
we were talking about her With Real ripley the other,
week it was. Silly it was silly to See Real
ripley trying to work On roxane's level because it's, like,
dude you're literally a foot taller than. Her just punch
her in the forehead a few times and be done with.
It AND i know that's unfair because you want to

(50:40):
seem you want to Make roxande seem like she's a
good contender for the. Future but when you're looking at
somebody with such a difference in size and, Build Rea
ripley had to lose fifty pounds just So roxanne looks
like she could beat her one. Day but if Real
ripley was gassed the fuck out like she was a
few months. Back, no and nobody's gonna look At rocks

(51:01):
and she could beat the tree trunk like.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Yeah better to throw to throw it way to funk.
Back for some of, you there's a reason why X
poc teamed With caine and didn't fight them.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
Right, well they, did was. Sick, yeah how did that?

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Go beat ship out of? Them but that's it's like
those little. Things but, no this match was. Good they're
comparable in. SIZE i, still LIKE i, Said roxane is
gonna have to turn baby, face if not largely in
part because of her, size but also because the majority
of the ship that she does in the ring is babyface.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
Centric, HONESTLY i wish it would. SWITCH i LIKE I,
Betters i'm always going to be a fan OF, eo.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
But io so fucking she's doing so well as a babyface,
DUDE i don't.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
Ayai i'm, Sorry i'm just that's always gonna be EO
eo will always be AI.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
AI i don't know what to tell, you, man that
little on pointing at my, head things working.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
Like the point that she really does had cute, mannerisms
which kind of throws me because every TIME i look at,
HER i, think. Heel this girl is a. Heel this
Girl it's gonna take me a. While in the same
way that it took me a while for me to
Accept Bianca blair as a, FACE i had a very
very bad problem with accepting the, est the most arrogant

(52:20):
woman in wrestling to be the good. Guy it took
me a long time BEFORE i believed In Beyonca blair
is a face BECAUSE i always saw her And i'm, like,
man this bitch is a heel waiting to go. Off
she is waiting to strangle somebody with her foreign object
that's attached to her head in every. Match can we
talk about that, Too, Like i'm, sorry but that has

(52:41):
got to be the longest running babyface that literally has
a weapon on their head that is never used it
as a baby, face but as at. Heel it's like
it's built. In here's your built in weapon for every,
match and that's why it's like it was so difficult
for so long for me to Accept Bianca. Blair BUT
i guess in the same way THAT i look At Eo,
Sky i'm getting to the point now where it's, like,

(53:02):
yeah miss you Like Eo sky is a. Heel you
want this girl to be fucking what vicious and. Evil
but the reality is, Is, Joe you're. Right people love
the little the finger, points they love her, smile they
love her. Interaction she, Works.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
Yeah she needs to Fill oscar's. Roll but, ALSO i,
MEAN i will say it is interesting the way you
just described That beyonca is like what If Iron Mike
sharp was real? Hot? Right what it was the hottest
Iron Mic sharp you've ever, seen right, Right, like, hey

(53:41):
he's got a fucking thing and his and his. Wrist
he's hitting people with the metal, bar right, damn look
at that fuck look at those fucking, asks those, calves,
baby Iron mic. Calves, yeah, Man Iron mike shots real.
Fuckable he's looking real.

Speaker 3 (53:59):
Good and he goes on to have a career for
three years and he never uses the, forearm never uses the, rest.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
All, right for no, Rate, yeah for no, Read but
it's still. There it's still. There but by the, way
for those who've never Seen Iron Mike sharp before any
of our any of our listeners who are ladies or Day,
jo look him up and let us.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
Know if you're into the tell, me tell me which one's,
Hotter Iron Mike, Sharp Doctor, Death Steve williams Or Harley.
Race good, luck, Folks.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
Oh you know? What ready ready for. This i'm gonna
stake my own. Opinion i'm gonna have my own opinion on, this.
RIGHT i THINK i think that Nowadays Doctor death would
get pussy did he? Would he's got the, mullet the big. Beard,
yeah he's got the hipster you know what. Ship you're.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
Right he looks like a lot of hipsters. Today fuck.
Yeah but see that's the, difference, though is the hipsters
do it ironically away he's.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
Still but that's almost like frat chic now is to
have that fucking mullet and. Stuff if he if actually
you know, What doc To death could pretty much dress
the same way as he did in the fucking. Eighties
you just pulled the socks up. High that's a. Thing little.
SHORTS a Fucking sean.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
Says we should put in an alpress for keV, cast
but al pres would win that One al pres Was, yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
All the, girls, Yeah Al prez Was Al.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
Presley now the difficult one is trying to Make Harley
Harley race's perm work.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
Five, Yeah, no he's.

Speaker 3 (55:31):
Not that's heerm's curly.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
Hair, NO i don't know If Harley race is getting
laid after the year nineteen seventy. EIGHT i don't know
if that's. Happening there you, Go, derek thank. You, yeah
look at that perm, baby that's. It look at look
at Doctor. Death he's fucking. Dude.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
Yeah but that's also that that's photo like, right, like
that's a nice photo of him with That nick threw
up wearing the fucking fighting. Robe, like, yeah that that's
a guy who's getting late swollen mustache puts.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
Up i'm.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
Sorry when you're wearing the pants over the belly, BUTTON
i don't know.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
That guy's getting. Pussy i'm. Sorry listen once. Again Now
i'm putting that out there as. Well i'm just setting these.
Out any podcast that's listening to, us and we have
some podcasts that are like women that listen to do
their own, SHIP i want you to put that out
ask your ask your female audience if they think that

(56:32):
doctor Det Steve williams is. Fusible what about what About
baron Von? Rashki where does he?

Speaker 3 (56:37):
LAND i don't that could bear Or baron Von? Rashki
which one are you going down?

Speaker 1 (56:47):
On?

Speaker 2 (56:47):
First and by the, way this is WHAT i love
about our fucking discord. Audience for what it's for what it's.
Worth Jay raphael immediately crops out his. Dong, yeah and he's, like,
well let's, see he's kind of got. It he doesn't
look like he's packing, heat by the, way ninety eight
percent sure he's fucking straight as a straight as a fucking.

(57:08):
Cucumber but, yeah, yeah, yeah, no that's still. GREAT i love.
That it's just, like, WELL i don't, know Doctor debt's
looks like he's got a.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
Fund just a selling point for everybody at home that
wants to subscribe to The patreon. Patriots, yeah go make
sure go look for Doctor. Dets there it is Swollen
Barron vasky of Von. Rasky, Yeah i'll tell you right.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
Now he's slightly edging Out Baron corbin slightly you Mean Bishop. Dyer, yes,
Oh i'm, Sorry i'm, Sorry i'm calling him by his slave, name, yes, Rich, yeah,
No so shout out To Doctor death who? Knew who?

Speaker 3 (57:45):
Knew so we go on from that, that like that
good match WITH Eo sky And Rock sand and everything
else like, that and we get Onto otis Versus russev
and this Was rousev's first match in w W e
since twenty since twenty, twenty and the core of this
match was That russev wanted to Make otis a man. Again,

(58:08):
basically he was sick and tired Of otis being a
silly comedy character An, otis and they even brought up The.
REDEEMER i was actually kind of impressed That Michael cole
brought that, up but they even brought up the redeemer
personality that he, had and they kind of assuaded the
fans to believing That rusev is now more of a
vigilante type as opposed to what we knew of him

(58:30):
being the bulgarian brute back in the. Day but a
decent match between, him very big guy. Match loved the
fact That sizawa And maxine came running in After russev
was done just manhandling the fuck out Of. Otis russev looked.
Great can we say That russev looked? Great. BACK i
was excited to see, this And i'm glad that his

(58:53):
first match Is otis because it gives him validity where
he needs that validity with the new fans or with
the fans that haven't been paying attention to a W
why would? They and then on the same, instance they
solidified him as a unlikable, heel how can you do
that To? Otis how can you do that To? Tazawa

(59:14):
AND i.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
Was, like, hey by the, WAY i still do love
the fact That tozau is not a. Coward, yes he's
he does things where you, go, oh he's not gonna,
wow he's gonna stand up For he's never a chicken.
Shit he's a. Goof he's meant there to be, silly
he's meant to be laughed at many. Respects but he's
not a.

Speaker 3 (59:32):
Coward i'd like to think he is a, coward but
not when it comes to Fucking otis And. Maxine is that?
Okay CAN i believe?

Speaker 2 (59:40):
It? Yeah he loves his, friends that's all it.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
Is everybody else he will fucking cut.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
Tail he. Will he's, like please don't beat my, ass
But i'm certainly going to stand up for my. Friends that's.
Right that is a nice that is a nice way
of putting. It. Well, no but LIKE i said earlier,
Too otis Is Hillbilly, jim by the, way Hill Billy
jim definitely get pussy. Here Billy jim's definitely fucking in
twenty twenty five and he's playing the banjo while he does,

(01:00:06):
it so, yeah oh, yeah he's playing some Fucking mumford
And sons teenage teenage hill Billy jim sitting around a
tree with the, banjo got all the, ladies all the.
Ladies he's Playing wonderwall on that fucking banjo with a.
Twang today he is going to be the day that

(01:00:27):
they're going to throw it back to. Y'all there's SOMETHING
i like about. HIM i don't know what it. Is
and it's, like is he seven feet? Tall that's what it. Is, yes.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Great, Match. Otis otis had a lot of great fire out,
There like he did a good job of standing up for.
Himself so it wasn't Like otis was phoning this ship in.
Either it was. Good this is this is a setup
for down the, road and it's going to be exactly
the right person That otis needs to tear through in
order to get to that next. Level, now if IF
i can play a little bit of a Miss tredamis moment,

(01:01:01):
HERE i would like to See russev immediately go after
somebody big Because otis is the Ring russ, guy. Right
otis is here to show That russev is still the
fucking killer that he always. Was but he has the
opportunity to go after somebody. Big who would that? Be

(01:01:21):
BECAUSE i have ideas if he was On, SmackDown but
On Raw i'm. Lost you can't say gum through they're both.
Heels oh, no, Yeah i'm trying to Thank Bronson reid
isn't back.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
Yet.

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
Dude If Bronson reid came, back that'd be a different.
Story Shame is And rusev hitting it off this. Fast
they both just, Returned, EDDIE i like where your thought process,
Is but, HONESTLY i wouldn't have the two guys that
just came back at the same time having a match
right off the.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
Bat it does show, you, though that they have a
serious lack of big guys that they've built up in
the past couple of years that we can't just be, like,
oh rattle. Offs this one would be cool to see.

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
Him, well if he was On, SmackDown be Like drew
McIntyre Damian, priest, like.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
You know WHAT i, Mean oh Maybe.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
Priest Maybe priest is On SmackDown, Though, yeah, whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
That's the. Problem if he was.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
On, SmackDown that's an easy. One but he's on Raw.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
WHAM I oh did he? Yeah? Him he Works. Sammy
he was still here When sammy was.

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
SAYING i, MEAN i guess they could do him And,
sammy but that would just that doesn't feel like the
big need That rusev. Needs rusev needs big. GUYS i
Think Bronson reed is a wonderful, choice but he's just
not here. Yet HELL i would have Kept, honestly AND
i hate to say, THIS i have Kept stroman around
for another.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
Month.

Speaker 3 (01:02:54):
Oh it doesn't have to do a lot Against. Russev
he just has to be the big guy that he.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
Pins oh by the, way thank you for bringing that,
up because this reminds me of something that people were
talking about with the whole thing that happened With stroman
and him getting. Fined oh shoot, yeah, yeah, yeah this
is what pissed. Me pissed me off because it's another
one of those moments Where i'm, like, oh this is
just people that don't understand wrestling at. All, okay then
he came back and then he put over this one

(01:03:21):
and then he put over that, one and he got them.
Over that's what you're supposed to, do dumb. Ass oh,
yes well did he lost to him and then he
made him look? Good, yeah that's what you're supposed to
do on the way.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
Out we addressed that, though, too because we addressed the
first knee jerk reactions from people saying fucked he ko
fuck Ww, like we addressed these. People, LOOK i think everybody,
admitted but one way or, another all three of us
admitted That stroman did. Fine he did what he was
supposed to, do but he wasn't moving the. Same he's

(01:03:55):
clearly in. Pain AND i know we were joking about
the fact that he didn't even realize he was fired
because he was drinking on a. Boat but he even
knows that his body isn't the same. Anymore like it's
just at what point do you look at someone and,
go you know, what this is better? Off because what
you're going to end up with is the problem that
we have right now With Brian. Danielson Brian danielson still

(01:04:19):
wants to. Wrestle his body is breaking down to the
point that AID w doesn't even want to make use of.
Him and it's weird when you have outside, sources guys
Like Dutch mantel and others that are coming forward and, Saying,
brian just you don't have to do this, anymore, dude
you can. Stop you've made your. Name you could pretty

(01:04:39):
much go back TO wwe and do whatever you. Want
But wressell and it's just this weird thought process or
drive or whatever it is that he has in his
head that he has to constantly. Compete and you look
at a guy like, that and you see so many fans, Going,
brian don't do. It we love you no matter.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
What don't do.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
It you don't have to get back in the. Ring
but then these are the same fans that are, like
how dare you Let ruth or a fucking Bronze stroman?
Go how dare you let him go because he's? Hurting
like pick a lane people one of the Other.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
Well, well the reason, why the reason why they're saying
that is because they're, well one they're, unpleasable and TWO
i think it is With danielson is that in some
respects he's convinced people that everybody should fucking die on their.
Shield that's not a thing that everybody needs to.

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
Do this isn't, war, Man this isn't fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
War it's a.

Speaker 3 (01:05:38):
Job, look, yeah even if you want to go so
far as to say it's a, passion, right that's.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
Fair.

Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
Right maybe it's more than a job to. You maybe
it's even more than a. Career maybe it's a. Passion
at some, point your body is screaming at, you please
don't do this, anymore when you're constantly going underneath the
doctor or the fucking witch, doctor whatever it, is and
then telling, you, hey, dude maybe it's time to. Stop
here's some, Mushrooms like maybe it's time to stop when your,

(01:06:06):
family your, friends your, admirers your, doctors when everybody's telling you,
no and you're still, like BUT i. Must maybe it's, you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
Yes, Yeah and that's. It and that is obviously like
the plight of if you want to call, it, that
of the people that are, athletes and that's all they've
ever done their entire, lives say, no nothing, Else and
there's always that like pick was a red, pool red,
pill blue, pill left, hand right, hand whatever you want to,
say would you rather be the guy that you know

(01:06:39):
for fifty? YEARS i put up the. Drywall that's ALL i.
KNOW i put up the, drywall, Right so would you
rather be the dude that finally the wife, says if
you fucking go put that drywall, up you're not going
to find me when you come. Home so he fucking
stops work and dies three months. Later or would you
rather be the guy that's hanging up the drywall and

(01:07:01):
fucking drops? Dead let me let me throw this up.
Here which one would you rather? Be? Right? Well, interesting
it's an easy.

Speaker 6 (01:07:08):
One.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
Really casual sends us an update From Russell, purists Where
Brian danielson gives an update on how he's feeling physically
and if he's in good, health and, quote he, SAID
i wouldn't say good. Health red flag right, there, DUDE.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
I wouldn't say good, right BUT i, mean like you
could just end the whole thing right.

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
THERE i wouldn't say good. Health then don't, period that's
it roll the.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
Credits, Yeah but he goes.

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
On he, SAYS i wouldn't say good health in the sense,
of LIKE i can't work out the way THAT i
used to work out my therapists literally won't allow me to,
LIKE i can't hold heavy dumbbells just. Down there's certain
things and we're hoping to build that back, up, Right,
so like in working with people that sort of, thing
one of my goals is to be able to just
go and train jiu, jitsu not, compete but just be

(01:07:55):
able to go do jiu jitsu and not get. Hurt
one of the guys That i'm working with, says, so,
YEAH i think that's possible in like a, year AND
i was, like, okay so what does that mean for.
Wrestling by the, way the amount of likes that he
puts in, here you can definitely tell he's been talking
To nicki And brie too much this.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
Pa he doesn't need to get out of the.

Speaker 3 (01:08:15):
HOUSE i don't want us to one hundred percent Say
i've called it a. DAY i don't want to put
those restrictions on. Myself but it's mostly a calling a,
day mostly calling it a. Day the reality IS i
had originally planned for it to be kind of the
end and was hoping that it wouldn't end the kind
of the way that it, Did but it turned out
to be a blessing in the sense of the last
six months From april Until october were really physically hard for.

(01:08:39):
Me i'd hurt my neck pretty bad wrestling Well osprey At,
dynasty and that last six MONTHS i wasn't even SURE
i could get through. It so it was actually a
real blessing in the sense of, oh you, think, oh
that doesn't sound, Great but what it meant was WHEN
i was, DONE i was ready to be. Done here's
the problem with, That and it's this weird sentiment that

(01:09:04):
he puts up where it's, LIKE i know When i'm
ready to be, done but you. Don't that's why you Have.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
Yeah you know who says. That you know who says
that Alcoholics, No, well well, yeah but What i'm saying with,
This i'll tell you And i'm ready to. Quit, no
you're powerless to. This that's why somebody has to tell.

Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
You but the the person that can tell you that
you're done is your. Doctor, dude when your therapist is
even telling, you, look it's time to call it fucking,
quits that's not a suggestion that's coming from a medical
professional that you've, hired probably over a bunch of different medical.
Professionals considering as to How picky this guy is that

(01:09:43):
you trust and he's the one that's telling you you're.
Done it's not like you have some quack on some
back alley street out Of. Chicago you're talking with people
that you trust and they're telling you to wrap it,
up and you are still second guessing their opinion based
upon how you. Feel, look, dude the reality is is

(01:10:04):
you're never going to know how you feel because you're
so passionate about, wrestling you don't know what's. Up and
there's an, addict, Right he's an addict. Absence that's what
it is. Like he is a literal.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
Addict there is that old adage By Doug, stanhope renowned,
addict where he said there's no such thing truly as.
Addiction there's just things you like doing more than being. Alive,
Yes and you hear that and you, go, well that's
that is very, Astute And i've certainly known people that

(01:10:36):
fall into that. Category but the difference is, here don't
poop out kids and get. Married then if your goal
is to be a fucking jiu jitsu professional wrestling guy
that's gonna fucking die at fifty, six don't do. That
don't fucking do that to. Yourself do you know WHAT i?
Mean like IT'S i don't. Know it just does not

(01:10:57):
make sense to. Me it really. Doesn't, well let's get
back and by the, WAY i love. Him he's one
of my favorite guys of all.

Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
Time all the more reason that we feel like.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
This, right like that he should he should have, Stopped
he should have had a couple last. Match wwe should have.
Retired that should have been the fucking end of. It
he should have lost TO i don't even know to
A Cody.

Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
Sampong, honestly IF i was to think about the romantic,
ending and by the, way that goes to What dan,
says he, says do you think that he's romanticized some
tragic end in his? MIND i would think he has
to have at this, point, RIGHT i, mean there's no
way that he doesn't realize what the doctors are telling.
Him i'm sure they've made a point blank as to

(01:11:41):
how much damage his body is. In and when he's
openly telling people THAT i wouldn't say good, health he's
clearly patting that from the reality of being not not
health at, all not good health at. All so he's,
yeah saying that he's romanticized some kind of. End, SURE
i don't know IF i want to believe that it's,

(01:12:02):
tragic because then that says more about his mentality that
it does his. PHYSICALITY i love.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
The idea of it just being, like are you in good?
Health it's LIKE i wouldn't say good roll credits executive,
producer you know WHAT i? Mean, like that's. It that's
the end of the, Episode, Dude, like, nope, nope, nope,
nope you're fucking.

Speaker 3 (01:12:20):
Done and when you're publicly admitting that, too chances are
it's a not even chances it's a lot worse than
you're letting everybody else. Know if that is the safest
way you can describe your health, publicly you're doing really.
Poorly when people ask, you, hey are you having a good? Day,
yeap having a good? Day chances are if they're just

(01:12:42):
reiterating back what you're just regurgitating the saying, back they're
probably having a miserable. Day they're probably having a shit.
Day it's only really when you turn around and, go, no,
man today's been the worst fucking day of my. Life
that's when you really know it's a bad fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
Day what's what's the saying Where it's like if you
ask a guy how he's, doing and he's like getting
by or whatever the. Fun, right how's it, going it's.
Going that basically means they want to fucking. Die, yeah
leave me. Alone, yeah how's it. Going it's. Going that's
your way of, saying, please don't put anything sharp near

(01:13:19):
me or anything that shoots. Forwards thank, you.

Speaker 3 (01:13:21):
DUDE i Like Brian. Danielson i've liked him for. YEARS
i liked him back in THE roh. DAYS i think
that the guy absolutely deserves more, flowers especially in wrestling
as a, whole especially For american wrestling as a. WHOLE
i THINK wwe was a much better prospect for him
than any money that he made IN. AW i think
If Brian danielson was a smarter, man he would have

(01:13:44):
just stayed WITH wwe throughout The vince shit and. BEYOND
i think that he's a guy that as much as
we want to Praise Sean michaels for being this great
booker IN, NXT i can't imagine how much better it
would be If Brian danielson would accept his role as
a teacher and then guide these kids it's to the next.
Level could you imagine how good the talent would be
if you Had sean Fucking michaels And Brian danielson as

(01:14:07):
the head trainers OF. Nxt could you imagine the kind
of stories that, they these, people these kids would tell
in the fucking. RING i would actually be. HOPEFUL i
would be hopeful because there would be so much fucking
learning tree out there that you couldn't ask for better
students Unless Paul hayman decides to retire and just teach
people how to do. Promos that would be the only

(01:14:28):
way you could make it fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
Better right? Picture, WELL i mean, really if we're going
to go out and tippy, land picture a world where
you're deciding as a young man or as a young
wrestler or whatever to, OKAY i want to get a.
CONTRACT wwe is going to take? It, okay who's in your?
Developmental Brian, Danielson Sean michaels in a retired TRIPLE a
or retire Excuse, yeah a retired cmpunk working on promos

(01:14:53):
and storytelling it in. Rigwork, Yeah, like what do you
do with that other than say where DO i? Sign?

Speaker 3 (01:14:59):
Oh, well So otis And russev fantastic match for the
way it ended Up russev proving that he's a giant.
Badass and then we get to the part of the
show THAT i really, enjoyed which Was pat McFee Makes
omaha Hate gunther Hate pat. McAfee so they had a.
Thing piers came out, There they had McAfee out there

(01:15:21):
in the, ring and they had gun through out in
the ring with the microphone and basically, said, hey we
can't have a confrontation like we did last. Week this
week it's got to be on.

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
The up and.

Speaker 3 (01:15:32):
Up and McFee throws out his arms like he's fucking
raven all of a, sudden and then the crowd starts to,
cheer And i'm, like, oh this is. Corny and Then
pat McFee goes into a special, place a special place
that Only pat can because he got everybody so wet
and excited in that. Audience he talked about How, omaha

(01:15:56):
How nebraska was the heart Of, america where all the
dreams that this city, represents dreamers that occasionally get.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
To touch the.

Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
Sun he talks about how each and every one of
these people are fucking, special that nobody understands the plight
that Is, Omaha AND i mean you had the coach
of the Corn huskers, whatever throwing his fucking hat and
is losing his. Mind the fucking football players that are
out in the audience are fucking geeked. Up the fans
are literally in a. FERVOR i saw a foam coming

(01:16:27):
out of one lady's. Mouth she was Screaming pat McAfee's
name so, loud AND i swear in that fucking, MOMENT
i just didn't understand why some people are, like, Oh
pat's okay on the. Mic maybe sometimes he's a little
too eccentric and we're not really a fan of. His
AND i see what happened at that, moment AND i

(01:16:48):
Just i'm, like whoever decided to keep to? Hire and,
dude he.

Speaker 4 (01:16:52):
Got people to give A Michael cole chant, sincerely there
was A Michael cole, chance And Michael cole was trying
to hold back the tears because he's not used to
people paying him a, compliment let alone an entire arena
chanting his fucking. Name pat McAfee is a special kind

(01:17:14):
of promo that nobody else can. REPLICATE i don't understand
what it is he has that. Connection it was an
amazing segment to see an entire crowd full of fucking
gas station attendants believe that they could all be presidents
of The United states Under pat.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
McAfee let's see IF i can say this in a
way that it's not meant to be, insulting But israelly
an apt description of what he does in this day and.
Age it's so, generic it's creative because so few people
have seen what he is doing now because, wrestling at

(01:17:57):
some point stopped being. This it stopped being a guy
in the nineteen, eighties looking and. Going the good people
In nashville understand what hard work. Is but to my opponent,
tonight he doesn't think that you guys are worth. It
she drifts a. Piss that's Why i'm here. Tonight i'm

(01:18:18):
from a working class. Family my dad was a. MECHANIC
i used to EAT i used to eat old popsicles
that were found at the bottom of a, bucket and
the people, like, OH i used to earn old. POPSICLES
i used to drink from a hose in my grandma's,
backyard pick corn and blah.

Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
Blah but he Was dusty McAfee in that. Moment, Yeah
but all that shit's.

Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
Gone because everybody wants to be fucking. Cool Randy orton
or come, up And cody is just as guilty of
this is fucking anybody come up with some sort of actor's,
speech do you know WHAT i? Mean 's like four
score seven years ago to win a wrestling.

Speaker 3 (01:19:01):
Match BUT i think that was part of it those
two because he was pointing out people in the audience
when even when he got up there like he was
immediately giving. Props pat was in rare, form AND i
agree with. YOU i think it is that Eighties americana
that we just don't get. Anymore But pat understood. It
pat understood what made those old promos so. Special and

(01:19:22):
while we can joke about the dusty connection or the everyman,
CONNECTION i think that's really what it. Was Omaha nebraska
went banana for Fucking pat. McAfee they lost their, shit
and it was amazing because when you think about this,
feud when you think about this, matchup at no, Point

(01:19:43):
joe DID i ever, Say, MAN i really want to
See gunther Versus pat McAfee at Fucking. Backlash never DID
i ever think. That but after this, promo it's, like
NOW i want to see. Him NOW i want to
See pat scrap, away as, everyman as the, plumber as
the gas station. ATTENDED i want to See pako out

(01:20:05):
there and knock the smug off this Euro australian's. Face it's, great.
Dude I'M i loved the way that it was so
performative and it connected with the. Audience so it reminded
me of why people Loved Hulk hogan in the mid.
Eighties that's what it felt, like because it was just

(01:20:26):
Over you're, right it was over the, top and these
people ate up every fucking. Syllable it was.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
Amazing, well, dude this is this, is LIKE i, said once,
again one of those situations where if you're if you're fucking,
old you just go, YEAH i know, THIS i know.
This but if you haven't seen this trick, before it's like,
wow oh, ah all, right it's. Fresh and LIKE i,

(01:20:52):
said that doesn't mean that it's. Bad that doesn't Mean i'm, like,
oh this fucking. Sucks how many times you've been out To.
Hibashish have you ever been out to a couple of? Times? Yeah,
yeah got the guy does the little, thing he shoots
the latter gun with the saki all that fun. Stuff
it's still. Fun it's still. Fun but he ever taken

(01:21:12):
like a little kid to go to.

Speaker 3 (01:21:13):
Habachi oh, yeah it was, Right, yeah like this is
following fire and The, knives and, yeah it's a whole.

Speaker 2 (01:21:21):
Show oh my, god the onion. Volcano they're, Like, jesus
where did you take? Me this is the greatest night
of my. Life but that's. It it's Like i'm looking
at this And i'm, going oh, cool we're doing The
we're doing the onion volcano and The saki water gun
and we're flipping a. Shrimp i'm still blown away at
the coal thing, Though like it's it's one thing for

(01:21:42):
for for him to say this ship and get people
on board with him about gun there right because gun
there's still the heel. Gun they're getting, booze which was unique,
too and it was very, loud very powerful. Booze but
this was all because of the McAfee. Effect but the
fact that they cheered. COAL I i was blown away
because he goes On he's, like, dude this guy hasn't

(01:22:03):
taken a day off in thirty fucking years that he's
been with the. Company only three times he's been. Away
there is not a harder working man in this. Place
and who the fuck are you gunther to come? At
And i'm just, like god, damn he Made Michael cole
an empathetic little, face a guy who's always kind of

(01:22:23):
been seen as the stooge of the announced, team was
all of a sudden given this love from a Random nebraska. Audience, well,
well at this POINT i must, say maybe they need
to be In, well maybe they don't need to be
In nebraska, more because clearly if they just go every
now and, then people are fucking happy to yeah you

(01:22:45):
know WHAT i, Mean, like that's that's. It, Honestly i've
seen them get fucking worse reactions in major. Cities oh and, really.

Speaker 3 (01:22:53):
Well major cities like Even chicago right before it was,
it right before Fucking, WrestleMania they were Owing. Cody i'm, sorry,
dude us bigger, cities we're smarmy. Assholes it's almost as
if there's been too many fucking faces that came out
of the, box too many people that came out of
the jar for us to close the fucking lid and

(01:23:15):
put it. Back so it's difficult when you're dealing with
THE iwc, crowds the smart, crowds because chances are in big.
Cities that's where you're gonna get that the. Most Your,
Boston You're New york's, Yea, chicago but you go out
to Fucking, Omaha, nebraska or Even Saint, louis which is
where they're going to have backlash At. Eh how big

(01:23:35):
is the smart audience In Saint.

Speaker 2 (01:23:37):
Louis, well, well either, way let's hope that this is
fun because the pay per view is not looking.

Speaker 3 (01:23:43):
Tremendous, well we'll talk about the pay per view mostly On.
Thursday but, yeah, No gunther came out, there talked a
little bit of shit, back but this was clearly a
Big pat McAfee with And pat McFee readily Beat gunther
on the microphone And gunthry's been doing really. Well AND
i Liked gunther's, response but at the end of the,
Day pat drove people into a. Frenzy it was, great

(01:24:05):
and McAfee even throwing shots with The. WALTER i was
just waltering. Around i'm, like, oh look at. That he's
got jokes. Too pat did such a good job.

Speaker 2 (01:24:15):
Man, yeah, no HE'S i, mean he's he's a.

Speaker 3 (01:24:18):
Pro so the main events of the evening was The
World Heavyweight championship. Match OH i thought we were gonna
skip by this because, well this was the end of.

Speaker 2 (01:24:26):
IT i, mean this was the end of.

Speaker 3 (01:24:28):
Everything but you Had Jay uzzo Versus Seth. Rollins so is.

Speaker 2 (01:24:35):
This gonna Be SET'S i, mean my, god Anytime seth
has anything that gets a mild, reaction he beats it
to fucking death with the. Hammer that's the jumping in
the air pedigree. Thing is that what he's going to do?
NOW i think the.

Speaker 3 (01:24:48):
Time there was a small thing that happened in the
middle of this, match WHICH i think is brilliant because
of the way that the crowd didn't. Respond in the
of the, Match Paul hayman started Singing Seth rolins theme,
song and he was doing it a little bit out of,
key but for the most part he was singing the theme,

(01:25:10):
song and instead of the crowd going along with him
and singing with, him because they were angry that it
Was Paul hayman singing, it they started booing him If,
Seth If Paul hayman keeps doing, this crowds will stop
Singing seth's.

Speaker 2 (01:25:28):
SONG i fucking. Hoped.

Speaker 3 (01:25:31):
SO i thought that was fucking brilliant because one of
the most difficult things About seth being a heel is
that you still have all the fans that sing his
song every fucking time that he comes out. There every
time he throws up his, arms they sing a. Song
they Serenade Seth, rollins But Paul hayman doing. It Paul

(01:25:51):
hayman Serenading Seth rollins irritated The omaha fans so much
that they decided to boo instead of sing. Along this
is the same audience that earlier in the night Needed
jay Us so to do three more. Yeats this is
the same audience that went absolutely ape shit for Fucking
pat McAfee Praising Michael. Cole this was such a giving.

(01:26:15):
Audience the fact that they didn't give it To Paul,
hayman and The Seth rolins theme that they were singing
when he was coming down the, ramp now they refused
to sing was fucking. Genius if that's their way of
getting people to detach from The Seth robins.

Speaker 2 (01:26:32):
Character, WELL i can tell you this. Much i'm glad
that there was that little nuance in this smash that Stead,
altia because other than, THAT i am looking At Jay
usso and thinking to, myself this guy trying to be
the next scena is almost too. Literal, yeah, well it's

(01:26:52):
almost too literal even in terms of the, work where it's, like,
okay completely piss, poor, awful looking boxed, in, bumping not
looking comfortable as a guy that's had three thousand wrestling.
MATCHES i don't know if he's fucking. HURT i, REALLY
i don't know if he's more beat up that he's

(01:27:13):
let on and they're, Like, hey we're just gonna push
you to the fucking, Moon so now's the time for
you to not up and just go out there and
do your. Thing but the guy is fucking gun shy
out there every. Time the crowd.

Speaker 3 (01:27:25):
Seemed like this felt more like a way to obviously
Attach sammy's out there Because sammy And seth have their
problems going, on and then obviously bringing see Them punk
out there for the save see Them punk coming out
there with the, chair nailing Bron breaker and then kidding
in the ring and then Nailing seth and then nailing
Bron breaker. Again it was the establishment Of, hey, look

(01:27:46):
Jay uso would have not won this match Had sammy
not gotten involved to save his ass and had see
Him punk not come down there to clear the ring
like it was telling me more of a story that
here we have two mini, factions temporary factions together against each,
other and Bron breaker had his moment out there, Too

(01:28:07):
like that's let's be, honest, Right the person that really
needs the elevation out of all of, this whether they're
involved in the match or, not is Bron. Breaker Bron
breaker is the only one you should care about because
right now he is the guy set up for the.
Future if you like Jay, uso kudos to. You for
the most. Part Jay uso is a stupid. Champion that's

(01:28:27):
what he.

Speaker 2 (01:28:28):
Is he's a dumb. Champ, yeah he's a, dummy dumb
dumb that has terrible. Matches but, YEAH i just can't stand.

Speaker 3 (01:28:35):
Saying oh and The Logan paul, thing thank you E Rock.
JESUS i totally forgot about that Where logan came. Up
Jay uso at the end of the match was trying
to high five people and he goes to high five
somebody else and it turned out to Be Logan paul
who just Fucking jackson right in the. Face Just jackson
smiles and runs.

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
Off it's. GREAT i we'd hate to make him not
look like a dumb. Ass he must always look click a,
dumbass that, is that's the direction we're going to go.

Speaker 3 (01:29:03):
With three on three And Logan paul is going to
be the third man For. Seth, Yeah god.

Speaker 2 (01:29:10):
Help, Us god fucking help.

Speaker 6 (01:29:11):
Us.

Speaker 2 (01:29:11):
Yeah, No i'm just never going to be interested in
Anything seth or all and stuff's going, Forward So i'm
going to be completely biased towards. That. Sorry and, Yeah
jay is just his shit looks. Soft it doesn't look.
Good he's getting a big, reaction SO i can't fucking
continue to be pissed about. It, still DO i think
that diminishing returns will start to kick?

Speaker 1 (01:29:33):
In?

Speaker 2 (01:29:33):
YES i, mean once, again this crowd was massively fucking,
generous with the exception of Bird. GIRL i think they
could have put a fucking plate of macaroni and cheese
in the middle of the ring and they would have cheered.
It there's, nothing there's nothing there that makes me really
interested or. Excited if they do decide to go in
the direction OF i, MEAN i don't know where they

(01:29:54):
going to do. That On, SmackDown they'll do like a
six man or. SOMETHING i don't.

Speaker 3 (01:29:58):
Know, well they're not they're not the streams yet like
that might be a thing down the. ROAD i know
that there was, rumors but way Before WrestleMania that Effect
Royal rumble time that they were talking about having another
draft After. WrestleMania it still hasn't hit, yet so maybe after.
BACKLASH i don't. Know but now they're still they're still
Keeping SmackDown roster and the raw roster kind of separate

(01:30:19):
for the most. Part, sure obviously we've seen people cross
over here and, there but it's nothing. Definite so who, knows,
man we don't know the whole. STORY i actually.

Speaker 2 (01:30:31):
Liked dan's methodology. Here dan's explanation of. It nebraska was
just happy to see people or maybe you know, what
or different, people different. PEOPLE i, mean everybody comes to
the family cookout because they're all related and they're all.
DATING i just picture him being, like are the people being, there,
like oh my, god oh my, god these must be

(01:30:52):
like true blue giant celebrities.

Speaker 3 (01:30:54):
THERE i, mean is it does explain why the little
white kid was so terrified of Jay uso grab we.

Speaker 2 (01:31:00):
Got, Yeah, No i'm making fun of them because they're
from the middle of nowhere and they probably are fucking.
Stupid but now with that, said, YEAH i, mean, like,
yeah when you're high school or excuse, me college football,
team is their equivalent of like all of the entertainment
in their entire state where they're like fucking celebrities to. Them,

(01:31:24):
YEAH i suppose if If austin's theory shows, up you
do react to it because you're, like, hey guys on the.

Speaker 3 (01:31:29):
TELEVISION i keep Forgetting okie's in the. Chat, Okay okie's
probably pretty close In, nebraska right, WELL i, mean your
name Is. Okie where else are? They where's? THEM i don't.
Know maybe he's a big Sky illinois he's From, Skokee.
Illinois maybe he just really likes the Term oki. Doky
oh he's An oki doky.

Speaker 2 (01:31:49):
Fan, yeah he's An Oki doki. Smart that's what it.

Speaker 3 (01:31:54):
Is it's that involves like three, fingers, Right, like is
that what it?

Speaker 1 (01:31:58):
Is?

Speaker 2 (01:31:58):
YEAH i think. So but he he really will step
to the next level and be an fan Of Oki.
Doki art of.

Speaker 3 (01:32:05):
Choking oh, well who isn't into? Choking The, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
That's Gunther gunter into absolute but.

Speaker 3 (01:32:16):
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The Alledge wrestling Podcast Boys Funny. Shit this week a
lot of people covering the. Firings it has been a
glorious response of people very much not giving a. Fuck,
finally not giving a fuck about any of these people
that are. FIRED i think the knee jerk reactions now
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