STAR WARS AND STALKERS (Frank & Gus 11.21.25)

• Did people really hate Jar Jar Binks?
• James Earl Jones is the most recognizable voice for white nationalists in the galaxy.
• unpacking accidental hatred
• Did mental deficiencies hold Kanye back?
• Did Kim make Kanye worse?
• Fan gets weird with AJ Lee
• A practical way to stop stalkers in 2025
• The line between what makes a creep
• Ancient Chinese secret on how to get rid of your Boston accent
• Joe talks about the South
• Mish breaks down the new ad-pocalypse
• Wrap up. Shitbox next week for Cena's retirement.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Don't you think when Star Star Wars, excuse me, completely
Ship to Bed they should have just brought back jar
Jar Binks? Because fuck it? Right at that point, like
it's like you hate it, everybody hates it, might as
well just like try to embrace the meme and be funny.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
But what what if we hate it because of jar
Jar Binks?

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Well that makes it even funnier than at that point,
because then you're just more leaning into it where it's
just like I'm angry about the purple here lady and
the stories that make no sense, and it's like, yeah,
well guess what, there's fucking jar Jar. Is that better?

Speaker 2 (00:43):
But people argue about that too. The original fans, i
should say, hated and turned the Jedi because of the Ewoks.
They hated the Ewoks were technically the original jar Jar.
And I've seen people say that about Chewbacca, but I'm like,
got Chewbacle was kind of a bad ass.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah, people like Chewbac, well, you know, we car you know.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Gone didn't say a lot got the bitches. You know,
Chewi was kind of a bad ass.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
But you know, it's funny about that if they were like, oh,
the Ewoks, we don't like that, and it's like, why
I don't I don't get that, Like it's just like
they're little bears that live on another planet. They were
they didn't they.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Porta potties, dude, they shipped themselves. There was toilet and
they're fucking butt for they were awful. Come on.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Yeah, well, I mean, yup, yup. Ugh, It's still it's
still better than a lot of the other ship movies.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
So I mean any three of those original and make
no mistake, that is the original trilogy. I don't care
how they fucking prequel sequeled. That ship uh was still
some of the best cinema sci fi cinema anyways that
has ever been produced in Hollywood.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
So yeah, well, the funny thing is now I think
about it, right, And it's like most things as time
goes on, where people piss and moan about it and
they're like, gans's no worse. You're like, oh, you haven't
seen bad, you haven't seen bad. They can get way so.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Much bad ship. I think all genres do, but sci
fi and horror have some great just sea level cinema,
you know what I mean, just some corny ship I mean,

(02:43):
I go is like the original trilogy fuck you are
a unique olive tree, my friend, because well, do you
know what it is?

Speaker 1 (02:53):
I think for some people they watch it and they
just because it's so hyped, then they go, oh, well
it's not as good was hyped up to be or whatever,
and you're like, well, yeah, very few things in life
are as good as it's hyped up to be.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Well, yeah, because who would want, you know, a movie
that has a storyline that's understandable and deep and would
like to have like action but at the same time,
you know it would go into one one and another
flawlessly and has a brilliant protagonists and antagonists, And why

(03:28):
would you want that in cinema in twenty twenty five?
All we need is representation. That's what makes good movies nowadays.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
So well, you got to remember man, because at that
time they thought that they could just get away with that.
I think that's like one of the most important takeaways
from that whole era of Star Wars where people were
so angry about it, but realistically it all kind of
went back to the framework of the thing was so
popular and so successful. Just like anything else in business,

(04:01):
they're like, yeah, we just plug anything in there. People
are gonna like it, and that's how they perceived it.
But that was the.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Original story I think. I mean, Jesus Christ, they were
called storm troopers, Joe, what did people think they represented?
I'm serious, right, Like, well, the reason why there's a
reason why Mace Windu was a rebel? Okay, just saying.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
Well, I gotta say, you know, can you can you
provide sources to me as to what they were supposed
to be? Ya? How do you know they're not the
good guys in the story?

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Man?

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Oh well, I mean I guess it depends on your perspective.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Well, well you gotta think that's another one of those.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Do you look more like a Han Solo or a
Mace Windhu or do you look more like a Palpatine?
Just say it?

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Well, that's the funny thing is just like once again
going back to you know, perspective and time and all
that other shit. They probably thought the people they were
making those movies in the early twenty tens, so like, yeah,
we're just all on this train. Let's just have you know, girls,
jedis and all this other shit like yeah, whatever, man,
that works.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
But that was a thing too, No, I think it was.
It was even more on the nose than that, right, Like,
because if you do look at the Empire in the
way everything was scheduled or put it put together, I
don't think in the original trilogy there was really any minorities.
But on the rebel side, you had Asians, you had Aliens,
you had black you had everything.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
So good old Mace Windu, I.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Think the underlying story was always pretty clear, you know
what I mean. I don't know. I just to understand
why they all of a sudden needed representation in Star
Wars on both sides was weird to me because it's like,
uh no, no, they're the bad guys. You're not supposed
to like them.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
You know. Well, this is why, like once again, it
goes back to whatever going on in that moment, and
that's why something's age well and other things don't age
well at all. Because I'm sure, and I wish I
was being silly or sarcastic, but I'm sure there are
people that would watch Star Wars now and be like, well, well,

(06:17):
what's what's wrong with Darth Vader. He's just trying to
restore peace to the galaxy. He's just trying to make
the place safe, Like all these assholes are running around
being rebels and trading in the sand. Look at these animals.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
He wrote a book mind sith, Yes.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Right, once again, I feel like I would be kidding,
but I couldn't. You see some people nowadays make that
reason be like, well, listen, I don't know why these
people on other planets think they deserve their planet. Did
you happen to think about that? I think, Oh, oh,

(06:58):
so Darth Vader's the bad guy because he just wants
to go to your plant. Oh, it's your planet. Did
you notice how big our ships are? That means it
could be our planet.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
You know what? They would have been fine. The Empire
wouldn't have fucked with them if they just paid their tariffs, Joe,
if they just paid their duty taxes, everything would have
been just by.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Shut up, piggy. Jaba the hut would fit perfectly into
this garden.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
North Korea. Jaba the hull is North Korea.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Okay, Java the Hut standing next to Mike Johnson. Listen,
people have bad things to say about Mike Johnson and
or Joba. I'm sorry, I don't know why I made
a job of the hunt.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
I don't know Johnson like what guy?

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Because of all, he's the Secretary of State guy. He's
that little fucking gay guy that is like a fucking
low key notch Jesus.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Okay, I'm thinking, like, you're going back into wrestling, and
I'm like, oh, you mean the guy that likes them
punk you Sam Punk?

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Oh buddy, no, seam punk is no. No, He's one
of those dudes that's you know, the people that are like,
let me tell you how much I love Jesus. I
wish I could just smack him all over my face
and shinon Christ. I wish I could lick him up.
I wish I could just have the spirit of Jesus
in me from behind. And it's like, wow, It's almost

(08:28):
like if you do just just could be gay, you'd
be you'd be more reasonable instead of like, you know,
I'm tough and masculine. Everybody should I'm a big tough guy.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
It's like, did you ever think about that when you're
when you're making fun of the voices? Though? Right now,
John McCain says, but since the voice of Darth Vader
was James Earl Jones, then was Darth technically black? So
obviously in the movie we know he unmasked and he
was a white dude because he's obviously Luke's father. But yeah,
the dichotomy of the voice of playing the leader of

(09:06):
the empire, which they never had to say it, but
James always knew what it was. That had to be
fucking mind blowing to be playing.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah, mask off and it's a fucking crusty old white guy.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
It's i mean, black voice Jones. Yeah, but but being
a black guy playing the leader of the white empire. Wow,
it's just that must not the role of a lifetime.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
For I don't know. Maybe that's once one of those
like Simpsons did It situations where they predicted the future
where now there's like a bunch of people who are
white nationalists and they're like black, Jewish Latino. You're just like,
are you not in a You're not you don't know
that they don't like, they don't they they don't fuck

(10:03):
with you, dude, You know that right, And it's like, well,
James Earl Jones got to be a part of the
space Nazis chapter Joe.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Houston, we have a problem.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
I still find that so goddamn Like it's sad but fascinating,
and it always does like go back to just this
whole idea of like belonging and how badly people just
want to be involved in something. Well, like someone looks
at you and they're like, I think you're fucking gross.
I think you're lower than scum. And they're like, jeez,

(10:57):
how do I get into this club? It's like, why
would you want? Like what happened? I don't.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
I don't think it's that simple though, either, right, Like,
I mean, I understand, Oh my god, sorry house a
little taco bell coming up on me, dear lord.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Me.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
It's not crunch trap.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
I did have a cruntch trap. Very good, you tell
by the girth of the birth. It's yeah, yeah, I've
been working on it. It's but yeah, I don't think
it's ever that simple, right, Like I I don't think
people just go out there and go ooh you're a
different color, or oh you eat cultural foods. I think
it's this weird thing because you have to. And I

(11:38):
would assume in their mind that there's a way that
they justify it, that it's deserved, right, Like, nobody wants
to be the bad guy, not even bad guys, right.
I think in a lot of ways, especially the way
that cinema has taught us, and obviously fiction, uh and
and just even real life serial killers and monsters have

(11:59):
taught us that a lot of these people psychologically don't
even see themselves as evil. There are some, there are,
absolutely right, some that are just truly monstrous and thrive
on being sociopaths and evil. But there's a lot of
like the path of good intentions is often rots with

(12:19):
regrets or whatever the fuck that's saying is. And uh,
I think I think there's a lot of that involved too,
where it's like you don't realize how much blood is
on your hands, you don't realize how how far you've
gone until you realize, until you have that moment of clarity,
that that Samuel L. Jackson moment of clarity where you realize,
holy shit, I did what. And I think at that

(12:43):
point it's too far, you know.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah, you're driving the boat, You're driving the boat out
to deep you know, to deep sea fish. And then
at some point you go, oh, I'm really far huck, Oh,
I'm way too far out at this point. Well, no,
it's like it's the same exact shit as it's just
like dude, like Ben Shapiro, right, Yeah, where he's like,
I can't believe that white nationalists also hate Jews, Like, yeah,

(13:08):
the fuck did you think this was going? Like that
train is never late, motherfucker, no pun intended like that.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
I mean, Jesus Christ, Jews are on top of the
list for a lot of these nationalists.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
No.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah, but that's why it's so fucking crazy to me,
where it's like, but you're right, Like it starts out
as like microdosing ideology, where somebody starts out in this
idea where you're just like, you're right, everybody should work hard. Yeah,
you're right, everybody should do X, y Z, and then
it veers off to the pathway and it's just like yeah,

(13:40):
and all your problems are this group in that group,
And then you're like I'm in that group, right, And
then are you just too far gone? Like you just
honest to god, I think this is like a real question.
Is it just are people so unable to course correct
or they feel like there's some level of humiliation to just.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yeah, oh yeah, ego got to be a huge part
of it, right, like not just not not even just
for the sake of course correcting, because maybe at that
point there's a lot of people that go, you know what,
fuck it? Yeah, I did what I did, and it's like, well,
you're you're gone, that's it.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yeah, yeah, you know you're in You're in the ship now,
or you're just one of those people that you're just
gonna double down. And it's like childlike, you know, no,
I don't care, I don't even care, don't even matter anymore.
It's like, well, you're a black guy and you're in
the Nazi party now, so oh, I don't even care.

(14:38):
I don't even care. I don't give a ship. You're like,
well maybe you maybe sho.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
You probably just settle the fuck down, Kanye, we'll write
some music, no Jesus.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
The thing about the red hat that drove me to
a point of exhaustion, which was misdiagnosed.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Bye, hey, I'm not gonna.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
Say what race, what people U doctor, and what hospital
and what media wants to we know, I can't say
that it was a Jewish doctor.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Well Kavee, it was just he's just so severely mentally ill.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Yeah, I think that's an album. I don't like that.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
I understand.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
I know how you say it. I've heard other people
say it. I've heard other people say it too, But
I think that's a fucking out, I really do. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
Oh no, I believe he still should. He still deserves
to be shipped on for being shitty.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Oh you, I can't make fun of the hand Joe.
That's twenty twenty five. You can't make fun of the handicap.
What's wrong with you?

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Oh No? I mean, like I said, I still obviously
fully understand why people weren't into his uh hal Hitler
did he? I get it. Yeah, I get it why
people might be like, uh, you know, Kanye, probably not
the next best song for you to put out, you know,
like that's fine. But also at the same like I said,

(16:13):
there's a difference between, like I said, somebody who microdoses
ideology and then finds themselves in deep water and then
someone who's just fucking nuts and so therefore they're really
susceptible to anybody that has any sort of outlandish views, right,
and then they absorbed them and then they changed them
because now there was like another video of him from

(16:33):
two where it's three weeks ago I think, where he's
like crying into the lap of a rabbi and he's like,
I'm so sorry, man, I'm manic I have all these problems,
and I'm like, yeah, he's also correct in that moment too,
Like he is a dude that for the rest of
his life he's gonna need to be medicated to function

(16:54):
around it.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
I can understand that too, but again it still feels
like an out right This guy was able to not
only function in society, he was also able to capitalize
on his talent, capitalize on his art, made fucking tons
of money, brought in other artists, married one of the
hottest it girls on the planet. Like, this guy lived

(17:17):
a life that people that don't suffer with anything dream about,
fantasize about.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
Oh yeah, if he wasn't, if he wasn't who he was,
he would probably be dead or in jail.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Right, Yeah, that's all there. That's the thing we got
to remember saying, though, too. He also had this wherewithal
to not only do all this and excel the way
he did, but start multiple businesses. Some of them were silly.
I remember when we were viewed as college, the Kanye college. Yeah,
but at that same point, you're still talking about somebody

(17:50):
that always got a mental illness. We should feel bad
for him, but at the same time, he's able to
start billion dollar companies and capitalize on it. It's like, yeah,
is what point is that mental illness a crutch and
used in their favor as opposed to it doesn't fucking matter, dude,
It doesn't fucking matter what kind of mental illness you have.

(18:12):
You have to be held accountable for the way you feel,
for the way that you influence other people.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
Yeah, but this also goes back to like the Billy
Madison dynamic, right where it's you sit there and you go, Okay, well,
you got so much money, you just do whatever the
fuck you want to and people won't say no to you.
You might even start a wrestling company. You know, one
will say no to your jug So yeah, dude, you're like,

(18:38):
either you're born your dad is a fucking bajillionaire, or
you just whatever, I don't know, You sell fucking some
phony coin or something online and you end up with
one hundred million dollars. That doesn't change the fact that
you have like drug induced schizophrenia and or autistic.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah, but you're you're counting this as his entire career
was a happenstance. It was a one off. It wasn't
Kanye regularly threw out fucking hits. The guy was on
top of the world for years. This isn't a brilliant
wish accidentally landed on some cryptocurrency or fucking daddy's wallet.
This is a self made man. Kanye, in every version

(19:18):
of him, is a self made man. So even though
he did that with supposedly and believably these mental illnesses
that were holding him back, it's weird to hear him
use that as a crutch now in the crotch of
a rabbi, as you know, in order to try and
buy favor from anybody that's still a fan of Hiss.

(19:40):
You've made it to the top of the world, right,
You've been dealing with mental illness imaginably your entire life,
and you still do better than ninety nine percent of
the fucking planet. And now people are supposed to feel
bad for you because you said some naughty things and
you thought there were going to be no repercussions of.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
That, like well, but this is also I mean, you
could always bring this right back to a whole other
can of worm switches. What does that tell you about
us as a species, to where somebody with all of
those problems can still navigate the landscape.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Well, that's why I doubt. That's why I doubt the
severity of his problems. That's my honest happenstance on this
is I really don't believe that he's as mentally ill
as people want to believe that he is. I think that, sure,
maybe there's some anxiety there, maybe there are some social cues. Clearly,
you know, I'll always go back to my favorite scene

(20:34):
with him and Mike Myers and George Bush doesn't care
about Black people moment because I still feel the Mike
Myers face in that moment every time I see that clip.
But it's it's a fucking It's a nuance of his
It's not an actual disability, you know. It's something that
made him who he was, as opposed to something that

(20:56):
held him back. Because if we're trying to say that
one of the richest, most popular rappers of all fucking
time was held back by his mental illness, then who
the fuck was he supposed to be if he wasn't.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
No, I mean, I wouldn't say he was held back
from it. I'm just saying I think that obviously it
can declined. It got worse and worse and worse. His
mental health got worse and worse, and that absolutely runs
alongside drug use.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Oh actually, I like Big Daddy SDV's a response, it's
the curse of the Kardashians. That's what he.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Meant that too.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah, yeah, kimus and ruined his brain so well.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
He also you got to think and not I'm not
one of those people that's just like gonna simplify it
to that point. But you have to remember that those
he entered into a relationship with somebody as a person
who was already declining mentally. And you can't convince me
that anything is normal in a relationship with a woman

(21:58):
like that or a family like that, Like there's no
if anything har right, If anything, a guy like him
probably needed to be with somebody who was like, we
have dinner on Sundays and Easter is coming up. We
gotta go get Easter baskets. Like he shouldn't be with
someone who's like, I'm piloting six makeup lines. I'll see

(22:22):
you once every month. Oh and here's our child, and
she's gonna go with me to fucking Europe. We got
or three weeks.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
We got to meet up with the parents, We got
to weet up with mom and dad mom and go
shopping for Christmas gifts.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah, he needed well, no, he needed a real structure,
not only just because of the mental illness, but also
the neurodiversience. I mean, he's autistic. I mean I would
fucking people like allegedly. I'm like, all right, sue me
for it, Kanye. I mean, go sit and take a test, buddy.
I'm sure that within thirty five seconds they would be like, yes,
this guy is clearly on the spectrum. This is fucking ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
I'm not arguing that he doesn't have anything. I absolutely
believe he does. I just don't think that he should
be held with kid gloves because of the life that
he's led, even with these disabilities.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
You know, it's just it's, oh, miss, he'll be held
with kid gloves because he's rich, not because of the
mental illness. Like like I said, you know what, you're
right there.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
It'll be because oh, you got so much money, we
should take care of you.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
It's like that's what it would be, dude. It's all
out of right, that's the whole game. It's just like
I said, if you're rich, if if you're someone with
a really bad mental illness. As a rich person that's
you're somebody who needs help. If you're a person that's
poor that has mental illness, you're a problem. Uh, you're
probably bound to go to jail. Uh. They think nothing

(23:44):
of you, and honestly, a lot of society would wipe
their ass with you, which is horriful, fucking sad. But
like I said, it goes back to just who has
money like that controls so much of the situation that
it's not even something that you can fucking can And
it like, obviously the mindset of people that react to

(24:04):
people who are that wealthy and to people that are
that wealthy, it's hard to fucking grasp. I don't know.
Did you see the quote from Uh, I don't know
if it was today, yesterday, it was very recently, but
it was like some quote from fucking Elon Musk where
he's like, AI's going to get rid of all the
jobs in ten years, so money won't even really matter.

(24:25):
And it's like, oh, dude, it won't really matter. Then,
why do you want it all your piece of shit?
Why do you want more than you fucking pig? Like
it's like, oh, ten years, it won't even matter. Oh,
so then give it away. Give your money away, dude,
why are you trying to get more of it? Then
it's like oh no, no, no, because you think you're
more important, you think you're special. You are the ones

(24:47):
that get to live on the island and everybody else
gets to live in squalor because you think you're special
with your fucking plastic face. But that's what it is.
It's like these people, they're so rich. Oh dude, you
don't even need money in ten year. What are you
talking about? Well, what are you going to do with
all your money? Oh no, I'm a habit, but you
don't need it. It's gonna be crazy just you.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Well see other countries. Other countries will still have money.
I think that's what he means by that.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's what that's the complete
mindset once again of people that it's just they have
so much they're framing things.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Some of its troll though, too, right, because people are
still on board with this T two AI dynamic and
uh you know, speaking of AI, I don't know if
you had a chance to see it, but the aj
Lee controversy.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Oh that is that is kind of weird, to be honest.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
It's been floating around. There was a fian a fan
that went and saw aj Lee at one of these,
I think the big event, same one that we went
to back in the day, and took a picture with
aj Lee and obviously uploaded it to a Sora or
something like that and made it so that him and
aj Lee were kissing, and he posted it online and

(26:05):
aj Lee basically to surmise. What she said was please
take it down. You know, it's defamation. Just take it down.
And he didn't, And there is a clear cut divide
of many people that are siding with aj like this
is weird, this is defamation, Like she wants me to

(26:25):
take it down. Just take it down, because I guess
that happened earlier to other women too. I forgot. I
was watching James Romero talk a little bit about it.
I think he said, I'm not sure it was a
Velvet Sky or or Alexa Bliss. Somebody else got hit
up by the AI thing. But to be fair, the
other person immediately just fucking took it down and said, Okay, yeah, sorry,

(26:47):
hold shit.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
They thought they were being funny or something, and she
was like, yeah, that's that's fucking weird.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Don't do that, but this guy's leaning into it. And yeah,
and this is another person that supposedly has mental issues, right,
Like it's kind of come forward from people deep diving
his account. And he says some weird stuff too, like
you know, thank you Chris Benmon a bunch of weird
shit too, right, Like, this is not a this is

(27:15):
not a well adjusted person. I know James went through
his account and was going back like a couple of
days or whatever, and he has like hundreds of aj
Lee posts, so he's yeah, he's one of those. He's
a piss shit milk guy. But I don't know, man,
I mean where he's.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
A futuristic pischhit milk guy.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Yeah, there's some there's some wild shit about stalkers now,
especially with fucking celebrities and even pseudo celebrities too. I
was watching this other thing in Japan too, where I
guess there's like this this really really huge stalker And
there's this little white girl from Austria that goes to
Japan all the time and she does cosplay stuff there
and she's a cute girl and stuff, and this Japanese

(28:00):
guy has been following her for years, years and years
and years and he shows up and he tries to
assault her and kiss her and stuff like that, and
the cops can't do anything because technically, by Japanese law,
he hasn't done anything illegal, not according to their books,
you know. So she eventually had to go to her

(28:21):
embassy to file the report. And now at least that
she's filed something with her embassy, if this guy shows
up again, you know, she can contact the Japanese police.
But it's just crazy to me. And it's also weird too,
because there was the reason why this is becoming so
prevalent in places like Japan is because there are a
lot of these girls that there was another one, right,

(28:45):
she got married to her stalker. She was seventeen years
old when he first met her, and I think he
was twenty seven at the time, and he was grooming her,
and when she finally became like twenty two or something
like that, they got married. And it was like this
huge story in Japan, like celebrity gossip shit, But it
was a huge story because she married the guy who's

(29:07):
stalking her, stalking her in her high school.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
So they're trying to paint it as cute, right, right, Like.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
This is Oh wow, this is the new normal. Hey,
the fans that love you, you know, maybe you get married,
maybe you marry the guy that's brought.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
Great Yeah, what a great idea to put that out
there to people.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Right, and then we look back, obviously at the crazy
shit that happened, like Sonya Deville and Andy Rose and shit.
And it's like man and and even Lexa Bliss too,
like we are in a strange, strange society where these
parasocial relationships are just that they they need to be
put on lock and key. I mean, you were talking

(29:45):
about mental illness earlier, and obviously we're talking about AI
as well. Here you have the perfect storm of this
guy with aj Lee. Clearly, this guy has something wrong
with him. He's definitely on the stalker ring. You know,
if you're sit there and put out red flags, this
guy gets a few of them. And at the same time,
he knows how to use AI and he's not afraid

(30:07):
of it, and he and he looks at any kind
of negative attention as justification for what he's doing.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Right, right, it's reinforced.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
All you're doing is proving my love for aj Lee.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
And it's like whoa honestly and It's like, not that
you don't want to tell people that they're fucked up
and weird for doing that, but in a way, you're
almost better off starving that type of person for attention. Yeah,
you're almost better off just not giving them anything. And
believe me, I get it. And that's not a victim

(30:39):
blaming or anything like that, but being like, well would
you ever, but like like you said in that moment,
almost giving them anything makes them believe that they have
some sort of impact on you, right, you know, like it's.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
Way, if you won't love me, you will fear me.
Like that's that's like the stalker. That's phrase. You know,
if you don't love me, then you will fear me.
And this feels like this might be one of those people.
And I don't know I'm generalizing, but I mean all
the signs are there of somebody that would end up
doing some fucked up shit. And as much as we
joked about piss shit milk Guy back in the day,

(31:17):
that motherfucker took bullets. He took bullets before they finally
fucking dropped and stopped his ass. Like that's how crazy
he was.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
It was the Yeah, he was like the tea went
down so and except his arms returning into jugs of piss.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
I mean, the dude got electrocuted. That didn't stop him.
He got put in the hospital, that didn't stop him.
They put him in jail, he got out, that didn't
stop him. That was the second or third time he
came around a cop had to pull a fucking gun
on him and shoot him.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
You know, he doesn't have fear, he doesn't have emotion.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
No, he stopped oky, honestly, to be fair, after the bullets,
I think that might have jiggled something back in a place,
because we never heard anything after that. Never.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yeah, you get you get shot, You're like, oh oh
oh oh.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Maybe this isn't love.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Yeah, I can find the I can find the girl
looks like Lyda somewhere else. You know, Like I'm getting
these ads for this bumble thing. Maybe I should give
that a try. Yeah, maybe you should give that a try.
That would probably be a better call, right, uh No,
But like there is obviously so much tied into that.

(32:38):
And yes, the idea of someone taking a fucking AI
picture of being like we should be kissing in this picture,
It's like, yeah, fucking that's weird, dude, right, that's fucking
weird and like and by the way, if if this
was like Little Girls, if it does see one direction,
that would you know, like one direction. They have been

(32:59):
relevant twenty years, but you know current Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
They're retirements, you know it's current.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Yeah, they're thirty eight years old. These guys are getting colonoscopies.
I'm like those teen idols, you know, but they're like,
that's that maybe almost like it, you know, like all
the girls that love K pop and shit, and they're
like in high school and shit, and they're like, look,
I'm kissing Kenji or whatever the fuck his name. Isn't
that cute? Like, isn't that adorable? It's like, all right,

(33:27):
I mean still kind of weird, but you're a little
kid with a crush, so whatever. But when you're a
forty year old man or a thirties on year old
man and you're tagging, look at us, look how good
we're looking for Meanwhile, it's a woman, like.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Jesus, you're sixteen, yeah, and you're agents, so sixteen is
actually twelve lol, root Weinstein.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Yeah, and you're certainly not looking that as well too.
But no, but you know what I think I solved
the problem for that girl though, that does the cosplay
in Japan, and what she should do is get the
Japanese guy to follow her to Florida so she can
shoot him in the face. Hey knock knocked. But by

(34:21):
the way, like to people that are from other parts
of the world or the other parts of the country,
at this point where it's like the shit doesn't work
for you, you know, like they're like, oh, sir, we
don't have a loss of work for it. Go to
one of these fucking states or areas we have where
you can do what you need to, you know, like that,
think of the people that have the kids and now
this is obviously less and less because more places have

(34:44):
weed or whatever. But like, you know, they'd be like,
this fucking weed oil was stopping my kid from avin
seezars all day. It's like, yeah, get the U haul,
get the fuck out of this dumb, dumb state you're
in and go to the place where you can help
your kid. Well, it's like, well, you know what, some
guys stalking you and they won't do anything about it.
It there you go go to the place where you
can just fucking hit him in the face with the

(35:04):
brick and then be like they got too close. Man,
I'm standing the ground. I fucking standing it. And by
the way, in that instance, you are you are, that's
like legitimately you're standing, like you're taking your safety into account.
Like okay, that's that's fine.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Well likely, honestly, I mean not even going that far.
Her embassy should have taken this guy out. I'm sorry.
Of course, one of your citizens is in a different country.
You should be taking care of it. This guy should
be just disappearing somewhere, especially if she's one of your
representatives for your country. She's not only working in Japan,

(35:44):
but she's kind of like a little celebrity. I mean,
come on, how many celebrities does Austria have as far
as cute little cosplay girls? Probably not many, but yeah,
it's just it's it's just one of those things that
it's like, you know, you don't have to drag him
into America. Shit, we don't. We don't need more.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
We got enough. Shit, we don't need random Oscar. But
we love shootings.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
I know, Joey, but we like shooting the right people.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
And by that we mean every every everybody that's one
of you know, when people talk about equity. That's a
very equitable thing in our country. Why don't we just
why didn't everybody get shot?

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Yeah? Maybe that couldn't place money bullets. I mean, yeah,
you won't need money, but you get shot and dick,
Yeah yeah, will you get a piece of Let get
you a fucking happy meal? And twenty twenty nine?

Speaker 5 (36:38):
Sure that'd be great if what if instead of food
you get shot? What what instead of medicine we.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Kill each other? Wow? Man, I think you're onto something there.
Let's give you two more trillion dollars to the fucking mongoloid.
Uh No, that's that. That to me is like you
hear those stores. I'm not surprised by any of it,
any of the stocking stories, any of the ship. And
it's like it has only gotten worse to the point
where like, yeah, ten years ago, the Pichit milk guy. Obviously,

(37:17):
I mean Pischit and milk is gonna be funny either way.
But it was almost like, look at this fucking goofball
And then that, you know, devolved into Michael Myers sneaking
into Sonia Deville's house, right like.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Oh yeah, what are you doing with that fucking butcher
knife and duct? Tape. Oh, you know, just starts and
crafts like.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
We're like what We're like, dude, why don't you just
do something less crazy like smear poop all over her garage, right,
like a normal person.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Like normal, like a normal stalker. Why don't you just
get some shit and some milk?

Speaker 1 (37:48):
Bro, Like, why don't you just get ship, get your
own feces and draw a heart on her garage door
like a normal guy.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Well, wait, outside of her work like every other stocker.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Just give it the two fingers with this loot here again,
good to see you. Yeah, oh god, what a fucking
nightmare that must be. Man, that's gotta be scary ship
to be.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
I assume it's got to be worse for celebrities, especially
somebody like a j Lee. Right, So she already has
her own issues that she deals with, She already has
her own demons and such, but just being out in
public again, getting the getting the gumption to come back
on TV and do these conferences, right like she's she's
dipping her toes back into the public wwe water. And

(38:37):
now you got fans like this that are ruining it.
You got to welcome back. Yeah, right, I want to
remind you even deal with this the first time round.
I don't even know.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
Maybe, I mean there's I'm I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
I don't remember it in her book. I don't remember
her mentioning it in her book. It might have been
in there, but I don't remember for it.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Yeah, I assume to some extent, just having you know, works,
and having worked in restaurant and seeing how women bartenders
get traded, it's I'm sure they get Yeah, at least.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Alcohol is involved there. I'm not saying it's better.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Yeah, oh no, But I mean, like just the creepy
level of shit where oh, you know what I mean,
like hey, oh your hair looks nice today or whatever.
You're just like, oh, is this person just weird or
are they nice? You know, you're constantly playing you're gon
adubt people. You're gonna play that fucking game now most.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
Right, Like, I mean, we've all been to bars, We've
all been to clubs. We've all seen people that get
a little, uh a loose, little inebriated and start saying
some stupid shit that they probably wouldn't say when they're
in a right mind. I always figure, Yeah, female bartenders,
especially some of the ones I've seen at clubs, Yeah,
that's what they're gonna deal with. And I'm not saying
it's right, but it's got to come with the territory.

(39:54):
You know, you're dealing with drunk dudes, right, You're not
only dealing with drunk dudes. You're dealing with drunk dudes
at a club looking to pick up somebody, you know,
Like yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
And they have you as a captive audience too.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
So that at a bar, like at a fucking like
a dime, you know what I mean, Like at a
fucking shithole in the wall, it might be different, right,
because there's a lot of people that actually go to
the bar to legitimately just fucking drink and go away from.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
Life, hang out. Not yet they're treating it like a
third space, not a fucking you know, pussy hunt, Yeah,
but a club.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Yeah, pussy hunt all the way, all the way.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
That's all it is. But there's but you know what
it is too. And this was always this was always
a conversation that I would have with the bartenders, was
like they would say, and this was not in defense
of any of the guys, obviously, but like they'd be like, oh,
this guy's fucking weird. Or like well, this guy wanted
my number or whatever the fuck it was. And then
I'd look at them and I'd be like, yeah, but
there's like eighty here that are married to guys that

(40:54):
you meant at this bar. So it's like You're like yeah,
but they were like nice, and I'm like, yeah, it's
by the way, I'm not like, you know, you really
like someone, ignore them for the sanctity of your fucking
bar job. But like that does also happened, Like it's
one of those moments which like why would they ever

(41:15):
fucking ask for my number? And I'm just like, because
it works sometimes for some of these people. I I
don't know what to tell you.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
I guess it really depends on the type of people though, too.
I remember I knew a couple of girls that with
ten bars and stuff like that, and they really wouldn't
date anybody at work, which made perfect sense, right, But
they would date everybody else and tell them that they
work at a bar, and then we'd show up at
the bar. But that was different because we met them
outside of work, you know what I mean, Like, right,

(41:45):
I guess that's the connection, Like I'll go to your
bar and whatever. But oh, we met outside the bar,
so it's okay, we met, you know.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
Oh no, well that's that's very different than a patron.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
But I did patron her establishment, so you know whatever,
I just yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. That's like one of
those jobs where you see you see it. You see
some mild, wild, fucking weird shit, but also at the
same exact time, you see good stuff. If you got
stuff workout, yeah no, no, no, But I mean, like,
I like, I've seen people that were like, nothing.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
Ever good that happens at bars, like I don't know.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
I've seen people really enjoy buffalo wings. Crazy you ever
had buffalo wings? Have been like fucking I'm I'm not
going to kill myself.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
I've seen you guys starting the ball rolling on world peace. Yeah,
probably not, yoll.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
I've seen friends become better friends in enemies, well friends.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
That is the alcohol talking Jesus.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
That'll do it too. But no, like I have seen
like people that, oh, it's just a guy that would
come in with his buddy. He's that you know whatever,
played fucking hockey or something, and then you know he
meets his wife there. You're like, oh, that's cute. They're
nice people, and I've seen that happen.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
But I think I saw that movie. Didn't that have
h what I don't know, one of the one of
the Wallbergs in it.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Well, that does sound like a while. You wouldn't be
wrong to guess that. You really wouldn't be wrong.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Joey's referencing some hometown movies I got.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
You know, Hey, I know your mother. She used to
shop down at the Star Macket and we would get
she'd buy cigarettes for me and Mikey. There was a
good fucking nice lady. Nice lady.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
I'm proud of you that you can now just abandon
the Wallberg name around Boston and start heralding John Cena
as your hero.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
Oh well, you know what, John Cena as much as
obviously I mean, he's he's our guy here, but he's
almost how do I say this, he's almost too squeaky clean.
We can't get you don't get the city vibe out
of him. Still. You know, he's doing Chrysler ads his voices,

(44:12):
you know, like he his hears just like did you
get the new Chrysler four door Blue? And I'm like, yeah, man,
you don't sound like us anymore. To a crazy extent,
like and the bus and accent is like mostly permanent.
Like that's one of those things I think people got
to know is that there are people like to mention

(44:33):
like Bill Burr was like he didn't live here for
fucking forty years and he still sounds like he's from
the god damn celt Shore of Busted because he is,
and you go, oh, all right, that just doesn't really
leave you. But John Cena, like it's like this dude
put in some serious work to not sound like he's from.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
Maybe the trick is learned Chinese learn under it. Maybe
that's how get rid of the Boston accidents. Just start
learning under it.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
I love you sitting there and just like look at it,
like you know what, I just got to get out
of this fucking city, man, I just gotta change my
whole life. Yo. If you thought about learning Chinese, wait,
what are you saying? Listen, man, you learn some fucking Chinese,

(45:21):
nobody will even know, they don't even know you're from
here anymore. Yeah, Chinese Chinese. He's like, yeah, like you know,
like me, how fucking yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
It's kind of like if if Boston is spicy, Chinese
mandarin is sweet. It's like the perfect mouth. It evens
you out.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
Yeah yeah me Chinese, me played joke. We did a
bunch of fucking coke like it's fucking that's how it goes. Yeah,
what is this? Uh oh yeah? Rob said, I lived
in Massachusetts for thirty two years and I still have it.
Moved three years ago. Yeah, No, three years, it's not
nearly nearly long enough. At this point. Emily's lived here

(45:59):
for a.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Day gave and she's getting you still have the Pittsburgh accent.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
I catch it sometimes, I catch it sometimes, but she's
even starting to get some of the patterns. Really, some
of the Massachusetts.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
There had There had to have been a word or
a sentence or a conversation that you're like, Jesus, it's.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
Just a pattern. It's just a speech pattern. Like it's
it's not even necessarily like the very obvious words, but
it's the it's the tone, it's the pattern, it's the
it's like the sort of like affair, like the connectors,
the breath, like the breath that people have from the accent.
That's why so few people can pull it off well.

(46:43):
Like Jack Nicholson is one of the greatest actors of
all fucking time, and he was in the Departed movie
and I was like, please stop, please stop. You sound
fucking ridiculous. Leonardo DiCaprio is like, you sound fucking ridiculous.
This is not real.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
We all sounded okay, I thought. I mean it was
possible to the untrained years way more than Jack Nicholson was.
Jesus Jack.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
I know that was.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Great movie, but.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
I feel like Jack Nicholson went too deep, like he
probably was listening to police interviews from you know, guys
from the Winter Hill Gang and the nineteen seventies and
he's like, yeah, that's what I want to try to
sound like. It's like yeah, but man, it's the nineties
in Boston.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
It's not When when did that take place? That wasn't
even current when it happened, though it still took Yeah,
I think it still took place in the past, even
though the movie came out what two thousand and five.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
I think it took place in the nineties and two thousands. Still,
I don't think it was like a time and place.
Was it Black Mass the one that Johnny Depp did
that was, Yeah, that took place in the seventies and eighties,
But like yeah, no, it's there's still already a difference
between the accents of people, Like there's a really good

(47:59):
chance if you heard people in their sixties here and
then people that are my age. It's still different. It's
still very different. But the you know, to be a
man guy, right, the guy that does the his accent
is still.

Speaker 4 (48:14):
Your wife left you, fucker ye be a man, Yeah,
don't takeo instead of getting an engagement ring bet at
all in the hosses, be a man like.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
It's very it's still different. It's still its own dialect.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
Too, because you have the cargo. You have those kind
of accents too, which is very south side, southeast side,
east downtown. And I'm like, it's a very antiquated eighties
sound to it, but most people in Chicago are so
mixed now. It's such a melting pot pun intended, but yeah,
and nobody sounds like that really. I think there's some

(48:54):
there's some trail over from the years, but nobody has
that thick Chicago accent anymore.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
So it's died out with the old Yeah people, Yeah,
well that's like, who's the lightning's putting it in there?
He's like, yeah, my my auntie is she's from the Caribbean,
and yeah, she's like the kids will pick it up.
But yeah, which, by the way, like, there are also
accents that are really comfortable to fall into. Like I

(49:23):
think I think part of the reason why people like
you'll hear the Southern accent everywhere is because you don't.
It requires zero thought. If you just let yourself do
a dumb Southern drawl, it's very it's mellow where you're like, yeah, man, fuck.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
It's not fair though, because there's so many different kinds
of Southern type drawls, right, Like you have the Texas
hillbilly accents, you have the redneck accent, you have like
the Appalachian accent, Like there's the Midwest drawl, and I
think they all get confused sometimes. I know I can
confused sometimes too. But it's like there's so many hills

(50:03):
in this fucking country, and every single region has its
own dialect, even though they all kind of bleed into
the same. Does that make sense.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
Yeah, I mean, I'd still say, of all of my
weird Southern accents that you hear, you gotta love to
fucking creole Louisiana the love I love that shit, dude.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
Yeah, gambit yeah, well, I mean, honestly, that whole that
whole region, that whole area, the Louisiana Purchase and shit
with the French, and it's it's an interesting history and
the fact that they still live like it's the fucking
nineteen hundreds down there. Some of them still live in swamps, dude, Like,
who the fuck is living in a swamp still? But

(50:46):
you'll see like these videos on YouTube or whatever where
they're going catfishing and stuff and they're using their pontoon boats.
I'm just like, wow, what a what a fucking step
in time, What a step in time? I mean, just
to get home using a pontoon boat is fucking crazy
to me.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
That's a part of the country being so goddamn big.
There are areas that you are very much so culturally
isolated in a way that shit just ain't hitting you
and it may never hit you. And for some people,
they're more than happy with that. They're like, yeah, no,
no thanks, no thanks, we're good, like we like what

(51:40):
we're doing here and we're not interested or invested in
changing any fucking part of it. And like you said, dude, well,
when I lived in when I lived in Florida, not
when I was in Sarasota. But when I lived like
fucking I think it was southeast of it or something
southwest of it, and it was a lot more rural.
There was a kid that I went to school with,

(52:01):
and she would take a fucking boat, like a wow,
a little fucking not a big what is it called,
Like a little fucking motor boat. She would take it. Yeah,
she would have to get on a fucking motor boat
and drive to the mainland to draw to get in
the car and go to school. Jesus, Yeah, and you

(52:24):
do that every day with her parents because they basically
lived on a fucking island that was near it. It
was like, well, what do you do if the water's
fucked up? It's like, I guess, we just don't go
to school.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
So, Jesus, I wanted to talk about this real quick,
and I wanted to kind of make a public lease
some freaking guss. So people have been bitching about the
ads on the free feed, and I know this is
totally fucking crash wall whatever bang. So I decided to
put all the old ways that we used to do
ads back in the day when people gave a shit.

(52:57):
I guess about me doing things like that, and I
put the ad breaks in there, and I put in
for the people. The problem was is that there was
too many ad breaks and there's too many commercials during
the ad breaks, Mishwi, there's so many fucking commercials. And
I kept trying to tell people I'm not doing it.
It's really not me. And Joe and Dan behind the
scenes came to me and said, you know, are kind

(53:19):
of fucking reiterated, like there's a lot of ad breaks
on fucking Spotify, dude. And so I opened up to
them and I said, look, I don't know what the
fuck's going on with it. I don't think I have control.
Dan said, hey, why don't you turn off the auto
optimization tool because where partners with Spreaker, where partners with iHeartRadio,
and there's an optimization tool where Spreaker iHeart places the

(53:42):
breaks in our show for us. And so I said, fine,
fuck it, we'll turn it off. We'll do it the
old school way, and I put in the brakes and
it still wouldn't let me upload the episode. I had
six breaks planned over an hour and forty minutes, and
I said, no, you can't a minimum of eight main
breaks and two side breaks, So I had to have

(54:05):
ten breaks on the show for an hour and forty minutes.
It's not my choice. They won't even let us post
the episode without that. So the minimum is ten breaks.
If I wanted to put fifteen breaks in there, I'm
pretty sure a speaker in Spotify would have been happy
with that shit.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
So I, yeah, sounds good.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
This is I just wanted to put it out here
because I get shit left and right, and it's kind
of like, I'm not trying to fuck anyone, like I
think that there's some weird person that think so I'm
wearing like a little hat and just getting greedy or something.
It's like, dude's there's no greed here, We're not making anything.
I put the bare minimum in, and when I tried

(54:45):
to put in the amount that I thought was reasonable,
I really thought six breaks, one break every twenty minutes
seems like a normal thing to me. A little under
twenty minutes would have been like eighteen minutes. One break
every eighteen minutes doesn't seem like it's a fucking suicide
bomber to me.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
But WHOA yeah to some people, Well, well, you know
what it was like when people like they're fucking bats.
There was also that part of me that it's like,
people are gonna say I sound like an asshole for this,
but whatever, I'm like, do you watch YouTube? Because legit,
every three to five minutes on YouTube now they've fucking

(55:23):
forty five second long ads that you can't skip. Like, dude,
that's it's.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
Even more fucked up than that, because I've seen those videos.
I've seen the way our videos are. YouTube ads are
a lot closer together. YouTube ads are like every five minutes.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
Yes, like yeah, And that's like I said, that's what
kind of annoys me because you're like, why is it
on your podcast? I'm like, because that's what it is now, dude,
I don't know what to fucking tell you.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
So there's not more to it, right. Like, the reason
I'm bringing this up, though, is there's a bigger problem
at play that has nothing to do with us, has
nothing to do with your favorite shows on other platforms,
has nothing to do with your favorite YouTube shows. But
there is a new AdPocalypse going on. But it's not
the same way that the previous ad pocalypses were, where

(56:08):
it was sponsors pulling out because they didn't want to
sponsor beheading videos and shit, or you know, sponsors determining
that people's language is too harsh so they pull out.
This isn't that. This is actually kind of the opposite,
where the sponsors and the platforms are now saturating shows
with commercials because they're not making as much money as

(56:32):
they used to. And I don't know if that's because
there's not enough return on the advertise. Like, I don't
know the depth of this, right, but I've seen the
news that comes through my emails. I've seen videos on
YouTube explaining this. But basically it's on the other hand
where it's the platforms now that are really fucking up

(56:53):
upping the amount of commercials you're getting because they want
to continue receiving money or money as opposed to what
they were making to make enough what they believe they
should make now. Right, So basically everybody's gonna get fucked.
This isn't just an old wrestling soup is being a

(57:13):
bunch of more. It has nothing to do with us,
nothing at all.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
Right, Well, this this is like the funny thing to me,
Like you said, going back to being like, oh, well
there's so many on here, I'm like, yeah, ten plus
years ago, advertisers were like, yeah, we don't want to
be on your fucking weirdo shit, like now I'll get
us off and now because it's just money, money, money, money, money, money.

(57:38):
There's like a video of somebody like shitting in a hat,
and they're like, have you thought about Geico? Want more Geico?

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Right?

Speaker 1 (57:44):
I want to watch another video of someone shot in
a how about ten of the same Geico add in
a row. It's like it's it's all just hey, the
ship's going down. We're trying to scrape every fucking nickel
off the thing.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
Well, here's now too, right. So I don't know about you,
but I use I obviously, you guys know I use
YouTube Premium. I couldn't imagine what life would be like
doing the YouTube shows, or watching anything on YouTube, or
even referencing videos when we're talking about it on the
show with an ad every fucking two minutes to five minutes,

(58:17):
it's insane, right, So I purchase premium. I kind of
suggest people if you're really bothered by the ads, and
I know this is kind of a plug, but try
the Patriot No fucking no ads. Zero five or seven
bucks a month gets rid of all the pain and

(58:38):
you can listen to all the shows and the archives
and everything else like that. But yeah, no, there's none
of that. There's none of the ads. And I think
it's getting to a point now where a lot of
people are starting to rely on patreoon because I was
trying to tell you that earlier too, that there's a
lot of weird shifts that are happening financially to this country,
to us, right, Patreon, I Leave, and Coffee Cup and

(59:01):
all those other you know, privatized and entertainment platforms are
going to start really making more money again because I
think a lot of people are going to get sick
and tired of the fucking ads to the point where
seven dollars is reasonable. Right. So on the flip side
we were talking about earlier, it's amazing because the post

(59:21):
office and a bunch of other places, as of January
next year, they're going to be skyrocketing their regular prices.
I think the post office is going up a minimum
of six percent, six to ten percent or something like that,
because we're not just paying enough as it is. Never
mind the fact that tariffs are even being bolstered. Higher
duty taxes are getting higher. So this international shipping shit

(59:43):
is dying off. And I don't even just mean like
Japan's in China, but even the UK and Canada it's
just getting just bean bagged with fucking fees. Well because
of this, companies like eBay and at and there was
a few other sellers like retail sellers, but basically it

(01:00:04):
was like I think it was like five or six
million shops have closed, like completely closed down from all
these different selling platforms, all of them. They just they
can't afford it. How can you afford all these shipping?
How can people afford all this shipping? I mean, I
guess the way to do it is turn it around

(01:00:25):
and leave it to the people if they want to
buy it or not. You know, hey, this twenty dollars
Pokemon card now costs one hundred and forty dollars because
you've got to pay for shipping. So I mean, it's
one of those things. Or these people just shut down
the shops or they just close up their their country
of origin. So a lot of people they used to
sell internationally not only sell locally, which makes sense too,

(01:00:48):
but this is in turn had a weird effect. I mean,
for some of US, I sell stuff online too, but yeah,
it's just all of these changes financially, what the country's
going through is it's not us. We don't have that
much influence, but it seems like the way that podcasts
are being absorbed or used, the way that your videos

(01:01:11):
are being as you know, absolved or sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
Observed observed, right, sure, yes, yes, And I think.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
It's it's it's going to get worse. There's going to
be a lot more ads, there's going to be a
lot more fees, there's going to be a lot more
taxes in everything, and I think that you're going to
have to find yourself in this position where you're going
to have to subscribe to things. You're going to have
to find ways around it. And I saw like Sean's like, hey,

(01:01:42):
use the Brave browser absolutely, or use the Brave VPN,
which also costs I believe eleven dollars a month, and
the Brave VPN is awesome. And I'm sure you know,
even though Stephanie McMahon has her own, but Brave VPN
is okay too, and we're not sponsored by them, but
it's a solid it's a solid VPN if you want to,
you know, watch shows from Portugal perhaps, but that's what

(01:02:07):
it is. That's what you have to do. Now there's
a reason why piracy is on a complete uptick. I
don't know if you've noticed those articles too, Joe.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
Yeah, of course, but there is a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
More piracy in twenty twenty five than there has been
in the last twenty fucking years.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
Well, it turns out that surrendering every sort of system
and ability to run businesses in a giant country to
fucking people with social disorders that are billionaires, turns out
they didn't have the right ideas. I mean, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
Though.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Really, it's weird to think that people with social disorders
everybody don't understand social programs and making shit work. It's
weird that they weren't the ones to so listen to
on this. You're right, I can't believe that they didn't
put together Huh, Why doesn't every Why doesn't everybody just

(01:03:06):
walk their mail to where they wanted to go. It's like, yeah,
you fucking mongoloids, you fucking ruined all of our shit,
And it's going to be now a steady process of
people trying to write it. By the way, I'm sure
there's gonna be six fucking waterheads in the comments for
this being like, what is Joe and Dobodo doing. I've
been alive longer than you, are more than likely smarter

(01:03:27):
than you. Suck a fat, fucking dirty dick. Like, there's
a reason why all this shit sucks, and it's because
a lot of dumb people were charmed into believing in
dumb people because they were afraid of being called gay
or wanting to be perceived as masculine. And now it's like, oh, well,
I guess if I want to send a letter to
Grand Brand, it'll be thirty seven dollars because of private

(01:03:50):
businesses that are solving everything. It's like, no, they made
it fucking worse because they're greedy. And if you haven't
put together the fact that people are greedy, you're dumb.
It's like, I don't know, it's just exhausting to even
like have these Well, it turns out that we led
businesses that have been gouging people for decades. We let

(01:04:11):
them do whatever they want, and what do you know
now the gouge.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
But I mean, you're looking at it just as government.
Don't get me wrong, Government sucks on this one. But
the people running YouTube are not government. They're just greedy assholes.
The people the people running like Apple are not government.
They're just greedy assholes.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
This is but they're also levying the government.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
For free as long as they get as long as
they get their paycheck. They don't give a fuck who
it comes from. Let's be honest, if if North Korea
was paying Apple, do you think apples can be like,
oh no, that's North Korean money. Jesus Christ. Well, look
at what's going on with Saudi Arabia, Like, oh, dude,
the Shagi. I can't believe fucking tru dude, honestly that

(01:05:01):
things happened.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
Can you imagine that quote coming out of his fucking thing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
Oh he was a controversial guy. He was a fucking American,
all right.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
Oh dude, that the fucking balls of that, the absolute yeah,
you know, things happened. I'm like, things happen, Like, yes,
there's just no respect this guy.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Yeah, no, I immediately, I'll be honest. I really hated that.
The whole Koshagi thing was was a thing that you know,
made me very hesitant about w w WE even going
over there, the fact that they were dealing with the
prince and it's like, ah, you know, things happened it's like, no, man,
that's that's not the right answer. And the fact that
he was our voice into Saudi Arabia is just Oh,

(01:05:44):
he is a very controversial guy. Controversial, yeah for them,
not for us.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
I can think of another controversial guy in this country
that was killed somewhat recently. But they made him into
a deity. And that weird to think. Ah, that works.
You know. It's almost like, because people do or say
things that you don't like, we still shouldn't fucking shoot
them or kill them.

Speaker 3 (01:06:07):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
It's weird. It's almost like that's a major principle of
our country that got completely lost because now we're in
a fucking pedophile death cult running shit. It's weird, almost
like that happened.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
You excited about that list coming out?

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
Oh dude, I'm telling you, I can't wait to see
the fucking cope. The Cope's gonna be fucking amazing, the Copacabana.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
I think it's gonna be gross all around. I don't
think this is gonna be one sided, Joe. I think
it's gonna be gross.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
Yeah, it's gonna be a nightmare. But I think there's
gonna be more Democrats in the list and Republicans because.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
I think it's just gonna be yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
Well no, I mean I think that because Epstein was
actually trafficking young girls, not boys. So I mean, if
it was guys on you know, that would be a
different grind and shit and all that. Then that would
be the difference.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
So let's get ready to wrap it up. I got
a whole bunch of shit to do today. Next I
don't know if I'm going to be available Tuesday. We'll see.

Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
Don't available.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
Well, my son's wedding is on Monday.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
Oh, excuses, excuses, I know what, dude, I think they'll
be okay.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
But I know this weekend there is the Triple A
Crossover event, and I believe that Luke Fisto and Jeff
Lipman will be doing post shows for it, so that'll
be fun and looking forward to that, and I think
I will throw that up on the main feed as
well for everybody to listen to afterwards, because the post
shows are always fun and I do like listening to
their input on me. So with that said, Patreon dot

(01:07:50):
com Forward slash Wrestling Soup, YouTube slash wrestling Soup, Twitter
Wrestling Soup.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
Have you noticed the trend we've been here.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
For a few years. We're not new.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
So I forgot to respond to a guy on YouTube
who left us like a really fucking legit nice comment
where he's like, this is fucking great where you guys
have been all my life and I'm like, I'm so
used to dickheads on the internet. It was just like
better a long time, dude. And then I'm like, wait, no, no, no,
there's something char's nice human beings, dude. You have to

(01:08:22):
remember that occasionally we're just like, uh fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
With me, Richard. As far as the shipbox goes, I
wanted to have one before Survivor series. So next Friday
we will prepare for the act. Prepare you butts it'll
be it'll be a shipbox next week. So all right, guys,
I'm out piece pizza.

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
God fucking yeah, give this guy a fucking fu Give
me that ship

Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
Got a bed do right, bed Q go