SUMMERSLAM NIGHT 2 POST SHOW (Wrestling Soup 8.3.25)

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Wrestling to make sure audience wrestling soup. I am Anthony
Thomas behind a fuzzwall, and he is Joseph E. Numbers.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Oh man, I'm back. It feels like I've been gone
for eternity. WWWE has changed so much in the fucking
four days. I decided to not be around, And then.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
You wish you were gone for an eternity. Then you
would have missed all the Seth fallout and this wonderful
two nights of Summer Slam show.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
I wait, what happened with Seth? I have no idea
what you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Oh, well, you know, he came out there on crutches
and he told everybody that he's going to be okay,
but he's going to be gone for another eighteen months.
And we all went, oh no, no, Seth for eighteen months.
And it was really sad, and.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Ah god, do I mean, do do we start with that?

Speaker 1 (01:02):
I don't even know what.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
So I got home and I watched Night one, and
then it went directly in Tonight two. So I sat
through that the whole thing, at least the first part.
I could, you know, fast forward entrances and shit. So
that did help, but not a very enjoyable two nights
of pro wrestling. Dude, I don't know what to say.

(01:27):
I don't know what to say to people in this situation.
If you were into it, then congratulations. I guess like,
if you're having fun watching what WWE put out the
past two days, then at this point then WWE is
fully for you.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
And I'm not sure to what degree.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
A lot of this is for me anymore, and I'm
not asking it to be, but I got more than
enough to say about what was going on Saturday night
and tonight, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
At least it's done at nine point thirty. Yay, right,
I mean, you know, if we're gonna talk positives, hey,
night two, that crowd they woke up. I will absolutely
say Night two crowd so much better than Night one crowd.
Night one crowd they were apparently all taking sleeping pills.
And yeah, but night too, they were alive. You saw

(02:16):
some real focus and energy from the crowd, especially during
the main event. That was nice. It's nice that we
were able to start the show before ten o'clock. I
appreciate that. That was fun. What else? CARDI b right,
I mean she was on, Yeah, she was there. She
was absolutely a choice. Yeah, that was.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
An interesting one. I will say this for the Cardi
b thing. Dude, it was short. It was short.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
That was like when she came out and said, hey,
New York. Yeah, Randy Orton's hot, and let's have a show.
I was like, okay, good. They didn't try to run
like I had a feeling like they were gonna try
to bring Chelsea out or somebody and you know, oh,
they're gonna have a little back and forth and she's
gonna do some sort of half assed slap.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Now.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
They just came out.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Said hi, did a couple of little, you know, local shoutouts,
and they moved on with their lives.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
So that was why. My theory is they brought out
Cardi be just to let Sasha know how much better
she used to have it here, right.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Either that, Either that or they're just at this point
where anybody that has musical notoriety, they'll just give an
opportunity on these shows.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
I guess that's which which is. You know, it's not
the worst.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Idea to some extent, and I'm not anti given the
celebs a chance and small bits and pieces, but I
don't know, I have no fucking idea what to tell
anybody about what Night one was, because that was truly
just with the exception of the main event, it was
a bad show top to bottom. There's no other way

(03:52):
to fucking put it.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
It was painful. So I had myself, Andrew Carlok and
John Draper on for Night one. We kind of discussed
everything at nauseum. I think the biggest problem with Night
one is they killed three feuds, all of one fell
sweep one of them. We didn't mind right right the
Jade Cargill losing to Tiffany Stratton. I think everybody saw
it on the wall that it was supposed to be.

(04:14):
Jade gets a title and Naomi gets a title, and
the big fucking to do was does Bianca go after
Jade or does Bianca go after Naomi? And I mean
they've been building up this feud for a long time,
so it felt very weird in out of the box.
It just just killed Jade, especially after she won Queen
of the Ring. But that's fine. I guess whatever like

(04:37):
of the three feuds that went down in Flames, that
was the least egregious.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Considering ninety percent of both of these shows. Felt like
a sloppily thrown together Shindy Wrestling show. Yeah, I don't
know what to say, Like it's like, oh, man, they
really fucked over Jade by not Pusher. But then I
was Jade and Tiffany Stratton have a match, and I go,

(05:03):
both of these girls are not in the vicinity of
supposed to be like main event to middle upper.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Card material at all.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
They're so transparently women on the show that are supposed
to be at most lower card, And instead he got
Tiffany with the belt on her, and you have Jade,
who I don't know if it's time to completely let
her ride off into the sunset, but I might say, yeah, right,

(05:31):
I might say it's time for her to go.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
It's the other thing too, I mean, obviously cruising through
the night. One results was the outcome of Roman and
Jay versus bron Breaker and Bronson Reid. Now, oh, this
was another developing storyline of bron Breaker kind of taking
the reins now that Seth is gone and he was
going to do something successful, And it made sense to us,

(05:55):
to a lot of people that bron Breaker and Bronson
Reid won this match because Roman and Jay lost nothing
by losing that first match, and especially the opener of
the entire show, and they lost. Anyways, they lost anyways,
Bronson almost killed himself, and we find out later on
in the evening, as we'll get to, of course, with

(06:15):
the CM Punk got their results being Seth cashing in
on CM Punk that Seth is now going to use
his vehicle of bron Breaker and Bronson Reid losing as
a teaching tool, whereas instead of bron Breaker developing and
standing on his own and becoming the superstar that a
lot of fans would like to see him become, Seth

(06:37):
Rollins now gets to come in there as the visionary
and tell everyone what a stupid fucking moron, what a
bunch of fucking idiots we are for believing that bron
Breaker and Bronson Reid could possibly be stars.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Or or even better in this situation. Or bron is
hurt but fake hurt or real hurt.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Who knows? Who knows?

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Who knows?

Speaker 1 (07:01):
It's a surprise, Yeah, I mean I evolution is a mystery.
Yeah right, hgh is a mystery, dude.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
I saw obviously that go down, you know from afar
get my aspect to talk about these shows, and they're like,
bron might be hurt, there might be an injury to Broun,
And I'm like, well, now, I guess since apparently we're
playing this game where someone will go through the motions
and they'll pretend, like legitimately pretend real that someone's injured

(07:34):
on a show, now, then well then it doesn't mean
anything anymore at all anyways, which, by the way, like okay,
back when k fab really existed, you know what, thirty
years ago, that's being generous. When the guy got stretched out,
the guy got stretched out, right, clearly something's wrong with them.

(07:55):
Clearly the guy broke his neck, Clearly he hurt his back,
whatever the fuck it was going to be. Now you've
created this thing where someone's gonna sit there and they're
gonna go yeah, but that could just be fake anyways,
because you just did that with your main event guy
who's the champion yeah on NBC. So even if it's
a matter of it was like, well it was hurt,

(08:16):
but he wasn't hurt that bad, it's like, okay, well
you still fuck that up. You still put that into
the ether now that anytime someone has an injury, whether
it's you know, real or not, people are gonna sit
there and go ah, now they're fine. Yeah, No, they're fine,
They're good, they'll be okay, they'll be back in two weeks.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
The other thing, too, is that I'm talking to little
Fisto and discord. She was asking if she wants to
jump in, if you want her to jump in. But
the other thing too, is that what happens when somebody
gets legitimately injured and on the flip side, not just
questions the injury but laughs at it. What the fuck
is that going to do? What if somebody gets horribly
injured from a silly spot and people think it's a

(08:56):
comedy bit and no, this guy is like clinging on
the dear life. Like I could just see this being
a horrendous backfire if they continue with, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Well, what's gonna happen the next time something? And it's
you know, not like it's a great idea, not anybody
looking forward to it or nothing, but what's gonna happen
if a guy does break his leg? It happens if
a guy does break his neck, because that never happens.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
We need to see the actual bone before people will
believe it's a real injury.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Right yeah, right, And like this is this is it okay.
People can say all they want to and throw it
under the realm of is he ky fabe? Is it
not ky fabe? Or my favorite one, oh haha, are
you mad because you got worked? It's like, no, it's
not a matter of somebody being worked. It's a matter

(09:43):
of somebody putting it into a position now where when
somebody could be legitimately fucked up, we just go, yeah,
but is it but really right?

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Right?

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Well?

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Really are they? Are they fucked up?

Speaker 3 (09:56):
Like?

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Is that true? Like we don't, we don't want it
to be. But that was all at the behest of
once again the boy king of fucking Triple H's gundam
that is fucking Seth Rowins.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
So we got to segue a little bit. We got
the legend lu Fisto on with us tonight. Hi, how
is it going, Lou?

Speaker 2 (10:18):
You're feeling good after this amazing night of women's wrestling?
They all performances tonight?

Speaker 1 (10:24):
I mustle.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Who are you talking on the mass that would never end?

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Or oh price, thank you?

Speaker 3 (10:31):
I kept thinking about you of like fucking flipping.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
I was watching dude, Lou, did that not feel like
a ridiculous masturbatory indie match? Where it was like overbooked
to the umpteenth degree. Two girls do in every spot
they could have ever thought of in their entire life.
It was, Oh God, that fucking suck.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
I just I just actually felt bad for the girls
because they just kept going and the crowd didn't care.
Like even somebody on the chat confirmed that they were
doing the wave. So I was like, why is there
not someone backstage telling them to cut a few things
and just get to the good shit right away us

(11:16):
right now, it's just not working right and they're letting
them like beat the shit out of each other for nothing,
And I was like, fuck, And it was long, and
it was long, And what really bothered me tonight is like,
how the fuck do you book all the stipulation matches
in the same show back to back, like back to back.

(11:37):
There was an angle about like having someone tied up, Like, yes, spot.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
These are all the exact these are all the exact things.
I was saying to Dan and Mitch all night. It
is truly astounding to me because I'm watching it and
I'm going, these Asians should be ashamed of themselves. It's
just so poorly thrown together. I'm sitting there I'm going,
is this fucking WWE presents a fucking IWA Mid South

(12:05):
King of the Deats match journal.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
But Joe, you're missing the main point. They had one
hundred and fifteen thousand people there tonight, right.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Oh that's sick. Yeah, I never mind that.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
It wasn't split up over two days. It was one
hundred and fifteen thousand a night. But I think the
funnier thing though, too, is when you're bringing up the
women's matches and stuff like that. I was doing Tony
Talk Wrestling to watch along with those guys, and they
basically said it was an AW tribute show tonight. Yes,
and there was a lot of parallels, especially with the
Becky and Lyra match, that would absolutely make you think

(12:38):
it was a Britt Baker putting that together.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
If anybody's listening to this that really gets angry, specifically
towards me and my vitriol towards AW. I'm gonna apologize.
I'm apologizing to Tony kh after tonight because maybe people
just forgot how.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
To do this.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yeah, maybe they just forgot, Like, maybe I shouldn't blame
the forty year old autistic guy that's just trying to
become a fucking wrestling promoter now, because Triple Ah apparently
just doesn't know what the fuck he's doing anymore either.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
It's weird. Patrick O'Connell for five bucks says, here's five
bucks for the go away seth Rollins fund. I think
we'll need more than five dollars, but thanks for starting that. Yeah,
good huts.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
Didn't you like the first match though, the ladies.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah, no, that was fine. The three way with Naomi
and stuff, Yeah, that was great.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
I would like Naomi was like fledged, like full on
the heel, the backscratching, the eye gouging, the choking, the hairs,
like finally, someone who does everything that's illegal.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
I love that she has elevated herself greatly from even
what she was six months ago. It's amazing. It's amazing
how night and day this Naomi is versus the Naomi
Glow Nailmi athletic gamer for two bucks says Cardi b
who drugged, robbed men and laughed about it.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yes, well, I mean it's it's that she fits in
perfectly in the world of wrestling.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Then I'm talking about three shots in for two says
Candy had to go, so did Bird Girl.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yes, she's there for she's there forever man. She's getting
put into that. She's getting put into that upper ashlom
of person that WWE has or Triple H has where
you can clearly do no wrong and nobody fucking knows why.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
But yeah, no, I don't understand it. I just don't
understand the exceptional amount of love that girl gets. I mean,
does she deserve it. I think there's a lot of
other up and coming talents on the women's roster that
absolutely deserve it.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
If they clearly see something in her, because she's she's
she has like good matches, even great matches. The thing
is the gimmick and everything. I would definitely try something else,
And I don't know why they keep pushing pushing for
that when there's no reaction barely or like tonight, there's
a bad reaction. You don't want to put your wrestler
through this, and with really like was was clear to

(15:05):
me is Michael Cole kept saying, oh, she's so and
so and so like like I was. I felt like
they were like fucking throwing this like and and shoving
it down my throat like oh amazing she is, And
I'm like, yes, but right now, whatever you're doing with
her that's not working, right.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Like, you don't you shouldn't tell me she's great. I
should know she's great. I should see that she's great,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (15:30):
And please, for for sake, like, if it's not working,
don't leave her. If if you love her so much
and she she's an awesome person, whatever, don't leave her
in that fucking situation where you're like, whatever you do,
people they go to piss break or they do the
wave or it's like it's insulting for a wrestler. I

(15:52):
I'm like, fuck doude. Yeah, I kind of feel for her.
I feel as like, fuck I if I was in
her shoes, big shoes, I mean, yeah, that's that's not fun.
And you're there for twenty five minutes and you're like uh,
and then it doesn't get better. Then there's a few pops,

(16:12):
but then it goes back to the wave and people.
You see people standing up and leaving.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
It's like fuck a three shot, three shot tim for
another two real quick says at least no fiend fiend
fiend boy or the rock.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
For now, right, I hear this song one more time,
I will come ignore of her.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
Athletic gamer for five says better but still mid Becky
match made me want it to be over now. Wasn't
expecting brockback though he was done over. I wanted to
see Fantastic four. You know what, it might have been
a better choice, might have been the better call. A
couple more coming through. Forensic Psych says listener for thirteen years.
Love you guys, thank you for second Psych. Thank you.
Patrick O'Connell says, poor bird girl. She was de winged

(16:56):
ninety of this match.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
But also to some extent too, And I'm one percent
Shore and Luke can speak to this. If you're having
this match and you're killing yourself and you're getting no reaction,
stop killing yourself. Stop hurting like it's not getting anything,
do you know what I mean? Like if you're sitting

(17:18):
there and I get it, like we gotta they gotta
plan everything out for fucking hours backstage with this agent
and that one, and they get to clear it and
this that and the other thing. But if you're going
out there and people are like, all right, you know what,
Canadian destroyers into glass four hundred times, and you realize
that people would be more excited for you to smack

(17:39):
their opponent on the ass.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
What why? Why keep going into the fucking glass? You
know what I mean? It just doesn't make sense. I
think I think Lude absolutely hit the nail on the
head though, which she said it was weird. The pacing
of all of the gimmick matches, the steel cage match,
the street fighter, all of this stuff was put on
night two and none of that was given to us
on Night one. Yeah, it really made you almost I

(18:02):
almost feel bad. What happened to the people that just
bought tickets for Night one? Do they just go home
feeling like an asshole? Like they should? They probably should?

Speaker 4 (18:11):
Man?

Speaker 2 (18:12):
I that really that first night, like I said, with
the exception of the main event, was ass the show
was genuinely not good.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
It's like a raw like that raw about without long
promos pretty much.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Well, there was somebody sent me a video and it
was like people fighting at the show or something, and
I'm like, yeah, I'd probably be fucking ready to fight
too if I spent three hundred dollars to watch this.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
Right Besides, Besides, I really liked the first match yesterday.
I thought like the tag team the heel work was great.
So that's why I'm like even more pissed that set
his back because they have like good chemistry, Bronn and Brunson.
I liked them as a team, like even like bron
Breaker kept singing fucking songs. It was yeah, yeah, everything

(19:01):
was good, and I like the gimmick with the shoes
and everything. And then like a plant plant plant guy
comes back and I don't know if it's because I'm
a worker, but I feel like, don't work a worker,
but don't work the fucking fans the injury thing. It's
gonna bash fire. Don't fucking do this for Christ's sake,
Like Live hurt herself for real on the stupid thing

(19:25):
weeks before God damn.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
It was like, so should it should Live show up
tomorrow and then beat up roxy In and just be like, oh,
just kidding. It's like, what, at what point do we
then get to this, Like I said earlier, do we
have where it's like somebody gets legitimately fucked up?

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Well, we throw this out here before you finish that thought.
Let me throw this out here because this was a
legitimate halfway point. What if Seth was hurt on Saturday
Night's main event, but it was nowhere near as serious
that everybody thought, and instead of just coming out with
it the next week, they rolled with it until now.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Then if we're at a point where we're stopping matches
on NBC with millions of people watching, and it's for
an injury that's not that bad, then you're probably someone
who shouldn't be a main event professional wrestler on WWE television.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
That's yeah, that's all I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Like, it's like, if you if what's his name, do
you remember when a Mystico broke his finger and they
called the match. It's like, yeah, that's why Mystico is
not as Myscico is wrestling in fucking Mexico instead of
on actual WWE television because he was like ouch, my
fingy and they stopped the fucking match.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
You know.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
The thing that that's kind of weird with this one
is that there's been injury angles before that happens, Like
it's just that for someone to stop a match, talk
to the referee, get up and take the finish. Yes,
to me, that was like okay, just go home and
leave that. That looked like a shite. So that's why

(21:01):
I'm like, there's that line here that's been crossed where
the guy kind of it looked like the idea was
that he switched the finish to put the other guy
over because he knew he could not go on with
the match. So you're like, as you say, was was
was it less like he had me and these problems before,

(21:22):
So maybe like he didn't want to take a chance
and then like just to make it the Summers Slam.
It's fine, it's just that you're playing with something that's
like like.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
There's a chance for there to be serious backlash from
the fans. But I do kind of wonder if it
was one of those moments where maybe Seth thought he
was injured, because you're right, he does have me problems he.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
Was with the punches and you included in the in
the S four line, which yeah, it's it's just the
the guy gets up, it gets the finish and kind of.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
It's stands in the stands in the corner like an
asshole and.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
Goes this was goldbird thing that.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Ye honest, honest to God, honest to God, and this
is coming from so listen, I'm never gonna say that
I'm a guy that was going to main event wrestle
Mania and blah, blah blah. But I can tell you
this much, if put in that position, said to somebody
that's supposed to be a veteran of like what twenty
fucking years of wrestling, how he didn't say I'm hurt.

(22:25):
What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna roll out of
the ring and take a fucking count out. Tell Night
to stay in the fucking ring, and I'm gonna play
heel like fuck you, I'm getting out of here, send
out the guys and they'll walk to the back with me,
and we'll play it that way. Something something to keep
your heat, something to not make Ellie Knight look like
a fucking idiot, because you made Ellie Knight look like

(22:45):
an idiot. Then also, once again, you're on NBC A
Saturday Night main Events. Folks, we all know it's fake,
but you made it look faker than fake. You fake,
you out faked the fucking fake on national television. And
it was because you thought something might have happened. So
it makes it even worse. I'm sorry. I see something

(23:07):
like that, and I get it. There's the reality show
and this that and the other thing, and you know
even where we have like Ria Ripley on the thing
where I'm like, Ria Ripley's the baddest woman in the world,
and she's like, I'm insecure and my feelings and I'm like,
don't show me that. Don't show me that. I know
she's I know, I know she's a sweetheart and she's
a nice, kind, caring woman, but I don't want to

(23:30):
see the chick that's like I'm going to lick your
face and then paying you and you know, hump you
be like.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
But I'm also kind of insecure.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Why why show me that?

Speaker 1 (23:41):
Well, I think they actually did a good job of
showing the duality of man when it came to Rio Ripley,
how she was very vocal about the fact that when
the music hits and she has the war paint on,
she kind of snaps into a different version of herself
because she even said, look, Rial Ripley is me, but
it's amped up to eleven, you know, like these things
are what I feel like, but that's not me in

(24:03):
the real world. It's not me as Demi, it's me
as real Ripley. So I kind of understood that. It's
like I imagine it's like every Hollywood performer an actor, I
mean as.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
Much every wrestler, even on the independence, like you got
these different kind of misfits, all different from different culture,
different places, whatever, and they go through shit. But then
when them when then music hits, it's you go into
a second gear. You go you're someone else, right, and
that happens like even when you're starting or so I

(24:35):
personally I kind of like that they show this because
it shows that, like wrestlers are also human, but they
have the capability of switching, like something in them. They
can go out there and fucking kill it even if
they're they went through the worst fucking day. So it
shows power and it shows strength. So and I think

(24:58):
a lot of wrestlers don't rest was in general, don't
have enough, don't give them enough credit for all the
shit they do and how complicated it is to set
up a good match with a store in it. And
it shows that. So at least that part I like.
But I'm still if I would describe myself, I would

(25:18):
say I'm closer to a CM punk where I like
to tell a few things so people understand what I'm doing,
but I still like to keep the magic because I
want you to believe once you're sitting in their crowd.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Right, and this is clearly not the same thing, and
it's not the same audience. But it's like when people
get into these things where they're like, oh, come on,
it's all exposed. No one cares anymore anyways, Oh it's
all shown and it's all blown up and whatever.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
Who's it? A pretty boy.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Comic that was really popular, like a year ago or
two where he has like the big square jaw and
he's a pretty boy and no, no, no, what the
fuck was that kid's name he got? He got really popular,
was like he was for the like he was like
a TikTok comic.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Matt right, yeah, Matt. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
It was that guy, Matt Rife where he was like, yell, ladies,
look how handsome I am and they're like that makes
him funny. And he did a Netflix special and his
first joke was something about domestic abuse and yeah, because
he was like, I'm trying to be cool and edgy,
and through doing that, the guy's career has like fucking nosedive.

(26:28):
I haven't seen him do anything substantial since then, because
because his audience were all these girls that were like
really into the fact that he was going on there
pretending like he was a deaf jam comic but looked
like a little fucking the guy from fucking Twilight, you know.
And he broke cafe by making some sort of joke

(26:51):
that was like.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
Oh, that's mean. I don't like that, and he's.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Done so Like even in wrestling, when people think to themselves,
I can show this, I can expose that and it
won't mean anything. It still matters to some people, do
you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Street Fighter for five says EO. Maybe the genius of
the sky, but I can fly high too, baby Nailmi
impressed me tonight. Yeah, we'll start getting into the night
two matches in a second. Here, let me read off
a couple more of these. Drew Yari for two says
I missed Joey's voice.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
All right, Well, you know what, You'd be the only
one because my wife said to listen to me for
five days straight, so she was glad that I was
gone for a couple of hours. I'm sure, thank you.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
Drew. Dirty Bird says bird Girl isn't the repative representation
I'm looking for?

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Ah, yes, he's not representing a bird community. Well, dude,
I also I mean to go back to anything. What
the bird Girl saying the way that, and it shows
you the difference between somebody who likes to do moves
and somebody who's a fucking worker. Where you look at
the difference between bird Girl has this credit. We're gonna

(27:56):
have a street fight, right, We're here for a street fight.
We're gonna brawl down. And she still comes out in
her sparkly, pretty princess shit.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
And he got rid of the wings, Joe, she got
rid of the wings.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
Right.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
But here's the thing, She's like, Okay, I'm gonna go
fight Becky. Imagine if she came out in the jeans
and cut off shirt like Becky did when she got
her fucking nose broken. Similarly, similarly to later in the
night when you had Dominick Mysterio and aj Styles and
ADW Styles says, I'm gonna come out and dress like
your fucking mentor because I'm here to fuck with you.

(28:30):
Nana Nana boo boo, right, And that's the difference between
someone that's coming out to do their karate and someone
that's actually there to entertain the crowd and fucking work.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
You know, ten bucks from zach Reina says, here's ten
for the gooy fun bird Girl only appeals to the
masturbatory arts of wrestling fans. Yes, correct, Yes, there's a
lot of thank you, Zach. But to night two starts off,
We've get the three way match with the with the ladies,
you could Naomi versus Rio, Ripley versus Eosky, and a

(29:05):
triple threat for the Women's World Championship. Initial thoughts on
this match is it did everything that was supposed to do.
It continued to develop. Naomi, Eosky and Ripley were fine.
There was a little bit of there was some slips
in the match, eo Sky not selling Rio's offense. Is
this weird misnomer that kind of happened through there, But

(29:28):
very aware. A lot of fun, a lot of speed,
great way to open up Night two. The crowd was
absolutely into it. It felt fresh in comparison to after
what happened with Night one. What were your thoughts on it, lou.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
I wasn't surprised that was the first match because I
thought like that that was going to be a strong
three way, So you know, you start strong, so you
try to this way wake up the crowd that was
sleepy as fuck the night before and going to bed
on set winning. Gotta imagine how they went. The other
night went so yeah, no, like I like was saying before, like,

(30:00):
I like, I really like Naomi as a heel. She
she's really a full heel, like scratching, biting. Yeah, she
bit like Riya's And at one point I thought it
was so nice. She looked so mean. One cameraman almost
died on Ripley giving up like a cannonball, like flip outside.

(30:22):
She's like movement then she flu. The only thing I
I that I noticed that bothered me a little bit
is they were really waiting for the moves to come
instead of I call it selling around, like you sell
and you come back to the spot to catch like
a die from the third It was just there like waiting.

(30:44):
But that's probably it didn't bother it probably nobody else.
I mean, the mask was really good. The right woman won. Like,
I don't see why they would remove the belt from Naomi.
Right now, she's got a good thing going. Even the
crowd's getting behind her. You know, I'm screaming her quote
and you got people with signs now like proceed with caution,

(31:07):
and how cool that was? Like her dad is fucking
playing the guitar. I was like really, I was like,
that's why she has a good song. Dad made it.
It's not fucking but deaf jam whatever.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Right.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
Yeah, So now that match was yeah, everything it needed
to be. I think, uh, it's just now, what's what's
gonna happen with Riha? She keeps losing. There needs to
be something happening with her, So I don't know where
they're going with that.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
They'll want to turn Riha, but they can't.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
Oh they can't. No, no, she can't money. She's one
of the biggest stars they have. That would be that
would be crazy.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
It's very challenging for them because it's like her and
oh my god, who am I trying to think.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
Of for the men?

Speaker 2 (31:52):
God O, well, actually probably Tiffany too. We just have
these people where you're like, oh, it would work so
much better for them to but you just you don't
have that as an option because the crowd.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
I don't know about Tiffany maybe a young guy.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
Tiffany was like, yes, it's so funny because I was
watching the match and I was like, I think she's
losing because she's definitely not into this match. You could
sit on her face. I was like, looks like someone
knows she's going to lose, but she actually won and
she didn't look happy. I'm like, turn her, he's.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Done, She's do something. Do you think that because of
the Unreal show that just came out and while we
were just talking about it, Riha being shown in such
a sympathetic light that turning her heel now might be
a good move because it would screw with everybody and
it seems like WWE likes that or do you think
that playing this sympathetic role while obviously underneath the guys

(32:44):
of this is real unreal is is what really happens
behind the scenes would only serve to kind of piss
off the fans if they did that.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
She's too much money, I mean the merchandise she sells, Like,
I think she has the John Cena problem that he
had for years. They didn't want to turn him even
if people like were waiting on it. I think it's
happening to Cody too, Like we all like we all
wanted him to turn and do Like I was waiting
for the Bret Harts Uncle Steve Austin like kind of
match and then at the end, I was like, oh,

(33:15):
that's kind of cheesy, and then I was waiting for
something and waiting for something, and I'm sure we'll get
back to that later. But yeah, that's the problem with Rha.
You you you just camp right now.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
There's yeah, there's nothing you can do with her. And
there's also, I mean, other than keep her as she is.
I guess you'd say you're also kind of hitting the
wall with Rhea, where her as a heel is such
a natural progression just because of her size, where you
end up in this weird place and I didn't get
to talk about the fucking tag match with Raquel and

(33:49):
Alexa and all, oh fucking god was at an abortion
that was atrocious. Rock Saning is wrestling like a babyface
as a heel, and like you pointed out earlier, Blue
Naomi doing the shit biting and scratching and punching and hitting,
And I'm like, why is Roxanne a four foot eleven

(34:10):
heel and she's trying to do all.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
This flashy, fancy too fancy, Yeah, why.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Is she doing all this little just like cutesy shit.
And that's where like I, by the way, I like her.
I like Roxanne. I think she's good, But this is
what you get when you have this problem where it's
not taught to you that hey, you're good at these things,
but they don't make sense or they're not as fun,
and you don't think it's cool. Like, I get it.

(34:37):
You want to do your second rope moon Salt and
your cool little flippity dew shit. But when you're a
four foot eleven heel and everybody you're gonna wrestle your
six inches shorter then choke them on the ropes, gous
your eyes? Pull her hair?

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Right? No, I agree with you. I think that Roxanne
should be compensating for her size. She should be the one,
you know, poking girls in the eyes. She should be
the one scratching down the back. No, you're You're absolutely right.
Because of her size, she should be the one that's
doing more underhanded stuff then the other three girls in
the room that tower over her. I mean, how weird
is it to say that Alexa Bliss is taller than

(35:13):
Rock Sande.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Oh, it's a problem when I'm watching a match and
I'm going, all right, Alex buzz is doing okay just
because the other people are so ineffective in the match,
that's a fucking problem. But I will say I've missed
the majority of this match because I forgot the shit
started at six, So at that point I was watching

(35:34):
the end of the Cashit and everything going on with
Punk and then I needed like five minutes to reconsider
my life and my choices and watching and continuing to
watch wrestling, and then by the time I put it on,
I got to see towards the end of it. But
I mean, yeah, Naomi as a heel is fucking doing
great work. EO and me, and you've had this back
and forth Misch where it's like EO is just so

(35:56):
good as a babyface. She's another one where you love
her as a heel, but you can't do it right,
and that's unfore baby face.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
She's she has great facial when she's selling, she's screaming
like it's fucking like she's dying, and those little pointy
fingers like she's doing it so over so like everybody's
doing it now in the crowd when she does it,
so yeah, that's like she has a lot of fire.
She's a great babyface.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
Yeah, EO has absolutely found her stride, but I would
like to see her go back to kind of be
in that heel character. It's it's rare when you can
have somebody that's capable of doing great things with both sides,
and I think EO is talented, clearly beyond talented enough
to be both. But what did you think of the
other three way match? Overall? Joe? What I solve it?

Speaker 2 (36:41):
It's what you get when you put three people in
the ring that actually know how to work, and it's
what you what you fucking get. I mean that I
don't know how to say it any other way, where
like they loved it, Yeah, but that's it is. There's
such a there's such a gap with talent now on
the show where you'll see the people like once again

(37:04):
you see like a three way match with you know,
Via or EO or even you know whomever, and then
you see a Jade Cargole and Tiffany Stratton and you go,
oh my god, am I watching the same thing?

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Right?

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Is this even the same fucking thing. It's like if
you're watching a fucking basketball game and it's like the
NBA All Star Game and then they just send out
a bunch of guys my fucking height and you're like, wait,
what's going on now?

Speaker 1 (37:28):
Why are you play send a bunch of five foot
fucking eight guys to try to play basketball. They're like,
give them seven years, they'll get good.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
You got to wait a decade.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Just give them a decade. Relax, you're gonna grow another
foot in the decade out exactly.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Yeah, just yeah, just like Judie will get good in
the year twenty thirty five.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
We got time to I gave us on this a
long time ago.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
I know him, Yeah, sir, but no.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
I mean, I mean, Gooring Pallar.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Yeah, this this story about vegetables. It stops at some point.
I thought I could just keep doing that. Apparently I
was just hoping I would stop at some point. I'm like, oh, please,
not any taller. I don't want to be any taller. Well, no,
that's That's the funny thing is just like I was
thinking of that when we were talking about Rhea, where
it's like she has the tall friend problem, where like

(38:19):
you as the tall friend Mash. If you go when
you're driving somewhere and everybody's an average height, right, it's like, well,
clearly Anthony's guy said shotgun. Right, we can't we can't
know where's where's he gonna sit in the front seat.
We can't you can't fucking sit we no, just smush
them in the back like it's like.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
Oh, I've just had long ways in the back seat.
Don't count it out, brother, Like who is that asshole time?
Oh my god, dude. But we go on to the
next match, which the tables, ladders and chairs match for
the w WE Championship. At this point they pan to
the crowd where we see the Dudley's. It was nice
to see Devon, and then we also see the Hardy's

(38:57):
out there, No Edgend, Christian surprises Price and obviously who
are all the people that we had in this thing?
My god?

Speaker 3 (39:04):
We had Phoenix yeah sorry, City machine Guns, the Wyatt
six yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
Di i Y, Gargano and Shampa and the Street Profits
coming out looking solid too. So in Phraxium of course,
Axiom and Nathan Fraser. Nathan Fraser is kind of a
madman up there too. Like I this was I don't
know how you guys felt, but it really felt like
a throwback to the early money in the bank type
matches where there was just so much controlled chaos and

(39:42):
once again a lot of people calling this a dedication
to an AW event or an AW match, But I
kind of found it fun, Like, that's what you're having
this many teams in there for, that's what this is
supposed to be. They don't have this kind of match
all the time. I don't think that WWE should avoid
these type of matches. I think that if they're doing

(40:05):
it once a year or twice a year, fine had
fall on.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
A different night, that would have been great.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
Yeah, oh my god, so should have been on night one.
You guys are both right on that.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
There's no reason for this to have been on the
second night. It's confusing to me whoever wrote this card
down knowing what the main event was going to be,
having all this other shit beforehand. I'm thinking of myself.
And that's not saying that the main event didn't go
over well. It clearly did and people were happy and

(40:35):
into it, which thank god, because that would have been
really fucking awkward if they weren't. But why are you
going to have five matches? Like the way that this
card was booked is the same way that I would
have booked it playing ros War on PlayStation one in
nineteen ninety eight.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
Oh yeah, totally PlayStation match. I mean they even had
b Fab and Candice larray shattered or leg of the
on the ladder on the outside like it was absolutely
insanity for the sake of insanity and.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
Drops the canvas.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
Oh yeah, no, that looks crazy. And you know what,
the crowd was completely on their feet for it. Again complete.
You would not expect that SummerSlam Night one and night
two or even on the same year. The reaction from
those that crowd was night and day. Once again. This
was high energy through and through.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
But you're playing with fire once again. Where you put
matches like this on early in a card knowing you
have a long night, a fuckery and you kill the car.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
I don't under that long though. For this one. They
went through every spot. It looked great. The chaos where
everybody died at the end, it looked great, and it
wasn't too long. So it was spot spots, spot pot
okay everything. We saw one cool spot where the muscle
champa was hanging up down. That was pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
That was new.

Speaker 3 (41:59):
So yeah, I like, I like this match. I went
through fast, so yeah, one of those matches. It's these
kinds of matches are like a car crash. So you
go through it's fast and you like everything, and then
you go onto something else that's different, which they did
not bring. That was a problem. And yeah, I wish,

(42:20):
I wish this match would have been maybe the night
before or at least uh you take Becky's match and
put it the night before or not.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Like or just don't have it at all. That would
have been great.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
You didn't do it. It's shorter. This should have been
shorter a lot.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Well this this is another thing too, having these crazy
matches or these long matches at the beginning of shows.
Night one was hindered by this fact. And this you
and I whenever we do these post shows, we always
get into a thing where I say to you, like, oh,
this was so long, and you're like, oh, no, it's
actually only this lot because I got to watch it back,
all right, that whole first segment of Night one, that

(42:59):
whole first segment with Roman, and the whole time it
was forty five minutes long from the start to the
end of that match.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
And then it's like, well.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Yeah, no, shit, people are dead. After that, you have
a forty five minute long intro where the first five
minutes or video packages is like, hey watch the thing
that you already no you come in to see and
then jay Uso comes out for five minutes, then Roman
Reigns comes out for five minutes, then the butt Boys
come out for five minutes, and then you have a

(43:31):
fucking twenty eight minute long match. It's like, yeah, of
course the next thing they send out people like I'm cooked, dude.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
But do you think that's calculated? Like, do you think
that that's calculated? So, like what we were talking about earlier,
and even Lou mentioned it, like the worst thing you
could do is just start leaving during the matches. We
saw that multiple times, especially during Night one, people just
picking up and going out for popcorn and drinks. But
do you think that there's a calculation behind these longer
entrances so people can get back from their snacks, can

(44:00):
get back from the merchandise tables, and get back to
their seat before the physical match starts, or do you
think it's just all pomp and circumstance where they're just
so proud of themselves, they're proud of their music and
they're just trying to stretch everything out that it really
doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
To that it's so long between the matches now, so Beau,
they have tons of commercials and there's like the high
video and stuff, so you can go pee when that
that is playing. But yeah, the entrances are long, but
I don't mind that much when it's a big show
with the long ramp. I mean, I wouldn't have one
of those every single pl But when it's the Summer

(44:38):
Slam or the WrestleMania, it doesn't bother me that much.
And like you said, like while they're coming out, that's
the time I could go upstairs and get some food
or whatever. So but now that doesn't bother me as much.
And I hate there was that what was it Papa
John's Pizza.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
Here's where you go that? That ad was awesome. Nikki Bella
is the pizza delivery girl. That was uh.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
I liked how there were ten people holding slices of
pizza looking at them like you just gave a chimp
and abacus. Not a single one of them was like
I'm gonna bite it. They're smelling selling. No, it looked
like they shit in their hand, like they're like why

(45:27):
am I? Nobody wanted to eat it? Nobody wanted to
and they're just don't you want this? I'm like, no
one's willing to take a bite of this. Pizza you
got Xavier Woods and like leader hose In, I'm like,
you can't be a sillibition. Take one bite of the
Pizza Police and not of you.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
But no, there was.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
There's so much dead space and so much dead air
and time that they just they filibuster the ship.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
To a crazy level.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
And dude, whether people want to realize it or not,
the entrances and having this shit drag out so long
and having it go this way, You're still there, You're
still in the building. It's still happening. It doesn't matter
if it's like, well, it wasn't really the match.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
It's the Verry mma though, Like you go to a
MMA show, like the in betweens are so long like
between the matches, so I feel it's I don't know
if it's a TKO thing or like UFC, but it's
always this. It's always long or boxing matches too, before
you go from one to another.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
I'm just curious what the science is behind that, do
you know what I mean? Like, is it just pomping
circumstance or is there some team of people that said, no, no,
we need longer entrances to maximize the amount of coca
Cola and Papa John sales. Yeah, Jim Tables.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
Baby slips are right.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
I think they now believe.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
And I said this before with the Bloodline shit, which
I liked the majority of it, but a lot of
it was hampered by and Cody has this issue too
by being acteurs there Atours. They want to they want
to show their skill, their art, their craftsmanship, where you're like, hey,

(47:14):
just fucking punch him.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
You know, Nikki Bella is not going to get into
the Godfather for after her Papa John's commercial. It's just
not happening. Well then, Pop, didn't you pop her breast
and play?

Speaker 3 (47:26):
I was going to say, Hobby.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
Better pizza, better prices, Papa tit. We go off from there, obviously,
and Wyatt's win the match and retain. We go in
for the No. DQ for the Women's Icy Championship, the
match that everybody's been looking forward to, Becky Lynch versus
Lyra Valkyria. Lyra Valkyria coming out not wearing the wings

(47:52):
and doing the high fives down there and loving the
audience and Becky kind of coming out in her gear
and I mean this felt gratuitous for the sake of gratuity.
There was everything under the sun was used that they
could possibly think of. I mean at some point which
was funny, and myself and Marvin over on two we talk,

(48:13):
we're talking about it too that when she was zip tied,
When Lyra was zip tied on the second stare, all
she had to do was stand up to get out
of that spot handcuff.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
Well, well, how many times in this too, speaking of
video game bullshit matches, how many times were they going
to walk by the crow bar?

Speaker 1 (48:33):
Oh, the crow bar? They just kept walking the bar.
Oh she heard the beak.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
It was so this entire match, to me, it was
a very telling like as far as there's a set
of wrestling fans now and maybe they've existed for a
long time, but specifically now where it doesn't fucking matter
if it's remotely making sense, Just crash, go boom, bang

(49:07):
goes boom, Like, Hey, don't give a fuck about it.
Just keep doing stuff. That's all that man, Like. They
just want to see things happen. It doesn't matter if
it follows any sort of battern, doesn't matter if it's
going anywhere, it doesn't matter if either of the people
are over. Just do stuff.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
And I'm telling you already.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
With you know, I haven't mentioned Seth in ten minutes
for the people in the chat, so I got to
bring it up. Beth rawlins out there. I'm already fucking
sick of her shit. I don't need like, I don't
under I don't understand why we're giving these women half
an hour long matches. At some point, I'm looking at it,
and what I'm seeing is like when a little kid

(49:50):
comes up to you and it's like, hey, will you
watch me do my song or sing my song or
do my dance and you're like, yeah, go ahead, sing
your song for me. And that's how I feel now
when it's like a Lyra Valcario match versus fucking anybody.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
And I wonder whose.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
Call it was to have it that long, because I'm
pretty sure we got this match by half. It would
be a lot better, yes, because you remove all the
dead time that was in that match. There was like
some cool spots, so if you can only keep those
and you go home and you it actually makes sense.
I felt the Bailey kind of it looks chaotics. She

(50:28):
wanted to she wanted to cheat and then know and
then and then the same thing kind of happened with
Cody at the end, like the same on the same show.
I was like, there's too many Babyface wanting to turn
a heel, but no, they choose the good side.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
It's like, and.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
They did it. They did it, So I don't know
why it keeps repeating. Just like you said, it's supposed.
They supposed to eight each other at this point, Lyra
should have come out fucking pissed, dressed as a fucking
street five and go right to the ring. No clappy, clappy,
high high. I'm happy to be here. It's my fucking dream. No,
go to the ring. Beat the ship out of the king,

(51:09):
then you fight for a good twelve minute. Remove the
extra shit, Remove the fucking thing where you tie your hand.
That was not necessary, that was long. It didn't look good.
She at one point, I'm pretty sure I saw her
hands out of the fucking thing and then she put
it back in, so that wasn't necessary. Just like Seamus
and fucking Ruth said, beat the ship out of your

(51:33):
twelve minutes.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
Here's the problem, Lou, I didn't even believe that they
should have been in this match. They don't have enough
animosity for the level of violence that this match was
This was like a knee jerk reaction match. It didn't
make sense. Bird Girl doesn't come off as the hardcore type.
I mean, she literally came out there with her Becky
beaters on her picnic shoes, talking about what a hardcore

(51:58):
badass she is and she's gonna take out Becky Lynch
and she does it tonight, and it just felt gratuitous.
There was no reason behind it. Like I understand she's frustrated,
but is she really frustrated to grab out a cheese
grater and a cattle prod Like, I don't know. It
just it really didn't hit the market.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
Now, the body of language doesn't translate that. That's the
biggest problem. Once once a wrestler comes out, you should
say this person's mad. She's a fucking heel, she's a
fucking face.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
She was smiling. She's coming out smiling and waving at people,
and I'm like, this is as bad as do you
remember when Matt Riddle and Seth Rollins had their drag
out brawl because of you know, they crossed the line
with Becky. You said something about.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
My divorce and all the shit. Yeah, and then he
came out with a scooter.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
Yeah, it was awful and this felt like the same
kind of.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
Where he wanted to do you wanted to do it again,
but like it was kind of a your life al right, called.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
You called my mother?

Speaker 2 (53:04):
Who or so I'm gonna go get my razor scooter
and come after you. Yeah, it's it's a fucking it's
a joke. And I think you're right when you said
if you cut this match in half, if you had
her coming out jeans, cut off, shirt, taped up, fists,
brawl over the fucking place blindside Becky. Oh, I didn't

(53:24):
even see this coming. I didn't even know you had
this in yet. And once again, instead of having people
on commentary go ah, she's saying she swell, why don't
you have her come out? And just I don't know,
fucking do something get over right other than take stupid
bumps in glitter.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
Well, let's talk about the Bailey stuff for a second too,
because I mean, we were talking about this on Thursday
myself and Lou that there's a potential that Bailey comes
out there because after her Monday promo and I don't
know if you saw Rajo, but she did the whole
I just don't have it anymore, you know, like she
was doing the Terry Funk thing.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
So her, so her and Sammy are semi doing the
same thing, which yes once which once again.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
What are we why are we repeating it? And sam
Punk sam Punk is kind of doing the same thing too,
like they're just repeating the same storyline. But Bailey comes
out there, gets the crowbar from Becky before Becky smashes
Lyra with it, who at this point is lying on
the ground with a chair wrapped around her head, just
staring up at the lights, which was comical for ironic reasons.

(54:27):
And Bailey grabs it and then Becky and her start well,
Becky just starts telling her, just starts arguing with her.
It's like, wait a minute, Bailey shows up here, grabs
the crowbar and then does nothing, does nothing.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
I've never seen faces presented as bigger pussies in my
oh my god, yeah, in my entire life. And it
once again goes back to it shows you Triple H
is booking the show, because when Triple H was booking
himself on the show, it was he is a heel
and he was the coolest guy that's ever lived and
had a motorcycle and a skull, and all the babyfaces

(55:02):
were just these like dickless ken dolls that could do
nothing against him. And having Sammy get the gimmick and
do fucking nothing, crowd Boode, had Bailey get the gimmick
into fucking nothing. Crowd bood you gotta fucking do something.
Even if even if Bailey Becky sitting there going, oh,
you gotta hit her, you gotta hit her, you gotta

(55:22):
do something with it, and Bailey just shoves Becky onto
her ass or put the thing above her head like
you know what, bitch, I'll fucking brain you with it.
That would have gotten something. Yeah, Instead, it's like I'm
scared of hitting people.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
Well that was the thing. It's like you came down
there with a purpose. You literally showed up when you
weren't wanted. Nobody expected you to be there. You were
even saying that you were gonna miss Summer Slam, and
you show up, You make this big stink about her
using the crowbar, you stop her from it, and then
you just stand there. I just I know eventually she
turns on Becky and that is what it is. But

(55:57):
it's like the actual moment was when you grab the crowbar,
you fucking whack Becky with it.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
Or sling it at her Jese even sway I miss it,
Becky falls down, scatters away.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
You don't.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
There is this weird mindset I think that people have
now when they're writing and whatever setting it is, movies,
television shows, you know, pro wrestling, where whoever the good
person is, they cannot have anything resembling guts, gumption, actual rage,

(56:29):
some sort of behavior where somebody would be watching it
would go, you know what, that's what I would do.
I'd do that shit. Do you know what I mean?
Like it's a guess what I think.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Do you think that this is an overreaction? And to
both of you, actually, do you think this is an
overreaction on the part of Triple H and wwe to
that string of time where we had all these baby
faces and heels that were so interchangeable because we couldn't
figure out who was a baby face and a heel
because they were all doing the same thing.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
That's what it is. I mean, that's kind that's kind
of what it is, unfortunately, and it's like this is where,
like I said, there's a real it's becoming a real
aw vibe where I'm seeing it in WWE, and I
watched it, and I get it. This a reality show.
Ninety eight percent of its fucking fake. But maybe Triplation
needs to have a little bit more no in his vocabulary,

(57:20):
because he certainly had no problem having no in his
vocabulary in the early two thousands, when you know when
he didn't want to put over a single wrestler, you
know ran racist storylines involving himself where he put himself over.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
But like he.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Would now this would be a time to look at
someone and say, hey, Lyra, no you don't do that.
Hey Sammy, I love you and you're a fucking unbelievably
great worker. But if you get a gimmick in your
hand as a face, as somebody that's been beating you
with the fucking club for a.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
Month, you hit him.

Speaker 3 (57:53):
And it's it's like an unwritten rule too. The baby
face never strikes first, but if the heel strikes before,
you can reply. But the heel, he just needs to
do it first. But then you don't look stupid. You
you give a payback. I feel they need to go
back to the question what is a babyface? What is
a heel? A babyface never gives up, fights back, has fire,

(58:18):
fights for the good cause. But he's not stupid, meaning
if he if he gets something happens to him, then
he has the right to do the same to a
heel because it was done to him. So he doesn't
look stupid or like an idiot. And the heel is
supposed to be conniving, clever. He in his head he's

(58:38):
always right. But you know, even if he's not, he
defends whatever he's fighting for. And he's a chicken shit too.
Not enough of those like everybody's want to want to
be the big tough guy whatever. No, a heel is
good when you're like gonna fight, gonna look strong. But
then that's why I really like Drew, like he he

(58:59):
has a little bit of both, not that he's a
chicken shit heel where he's scared and runs, but somebody's like,
hey want to fight, not now? And then it's you know,
just a little something that says like oh are you scared? No, no,
just not now, And it shows he's clever and he's
he's he's gonna pick the time where he strikes. But yeah,

(59:19):
I feel it's the babyface. It looks so weak.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
It's like, uh, yeah, NBA. NBA to Cali for two
says Naomi is too over to get the title removed.
I like that, honestly. I think Naomi is putting on
arguably the best work of her entire career. I think
she finally feels comfortable out there. She looks good doing it,
and week by week it seems like people are on

(59:43):
board with uh being cautious.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
Uh, she's a heel, I keep repeating myself. But she's
doing the job of a heel, making sure everything she
does is wrong, like it's not allowed. Whatever, that's what
you do.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Would you agree with me, though?

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
You know your baby faces aren't doing the right thing
when your heels are getting over by being heels?

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
Of course? Why would I cheer for the baby faces
and their chicken shit when they're all lasers yeah yeah,
and they're like, you kid, do this. I'm like, well,
she did it to you. Why?

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Why on her earth?

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Why on earth would I cheer for Sammy's ain over
somebody when the heels are coming out with motorcycles and
fire and skulls and fucking beating the shit out of
people and looking like tough guys, and the baby face
has a man pun and is afraid to swing a
bat at somebody that's been beating him with the bat.

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
It's almost like they feel like the baby faces are
all supposed to be Dudley do right?

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
I know? Yeah, And Bob Beckland wouldn't even have done
that if you came out, If you came out and
beat Bob Beckland with a chair for three weeks, the
next time Bob Beckland had a chair in his and
he's hitting you, And if he didn't, the crowd would
be like, is Bob bat what happened?

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
We'd be mad at you. Stephen Colin Tuono for two
says EO, maybe genius of the sky, but those thighs,
my god, Genius of the thighs.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
Yeah, that was my nickname.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
It was mine too, but it was like chicken like
ah yeah, Frida of the thighs.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Yes. Johnny Browno for two says I'm glad I saw
this for free. Lupisto rocks absolutely, Johnny so much love
my friend Rock's reviews. Much left to him. Thirty minutes
seth as camp promo to start off draw Yep, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
Thank god, thank god football season is upon me, because
that would be so I would be so dude. I'd
be so depressed if I was sitting there and I'm like, Okay,
what's going on?

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
All right? I have to pretend that this is you.

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
I'm a visionary for the Monday Night Miss Sign. Yeah,
oh yes.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
I don't understand how they don't know the difference between
grading and heat.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
Just the same way because people keep singing his stupid song,
so they think.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
Change the fucking Thank god Becky changed her song. Here,
here's an applause for that. Fuck yeah, Like he needs
to change his song.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
Oh well no, but he seeks it. But it's the
same thing as.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
He wants to be over. He wants to be over.
That's what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
If I'd have known fifth well, probably two thousand and seven,
two thousand and eight, if I'd have known that, for
the next twenty years of my life, I would have
to watch rh pay per views as a main eventer
in WWA. I would never have supported that company for
five seconds because I feel like that's what seth rawlins is.

(01:02:52):
I'm repeatedly watching an Austin fucking Austin Ares ROH title
defense and I can't escape it. I'm trapped inside of
this owl where I can't watch any other match but
seth Rawlins pretending that he's having a match in the
Hammers and Obama's the fucking president.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
Seth Rollins out there every week from now on, telling
Brown Breaker he's just not good enough, telling Paul Haman
he shouldn't have doubted. I'm speaking for Paul Hayman too,
because that's what Paul Hayman really needs, is somebody to
talk over him.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
But by the way, I'm wait, I'm just just in
case if this ever moses its way back to anybody
that has any sort of input on the writing of
the show or anything. But can somebody explain to me
what the significance is of being an architect or a visionary,
or a messiah or or authority.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
I don't know. I mean, you know what seth Rollins is,
And I think I said to Salou seth Rollins is
the Jack Nicholson of wrestling. It doesn't matter what he
calls himself, it doesn't matter what role he plays. He's
always the same fucking guy, always the exact same.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
And when when E anging this, the voice is grating,
the look.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
Is terrible, all work and no place.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
When he when he.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
Drying from now on, you're gonna listen to me and Yney.
It's awful.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Look, lou, how badly did you want to rip your
fucking eyeballs out when Rollins was like berating them and
they don't even stand up, make a face at him,
give him a side eye. They just sit there and
they're like, yo, sums just keeps sliding the fingers.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
I'm fear the motherfucker, Braun, you want to do it wrong,
at least hear the motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
How about at least get in his face or something
like these guys like they just are blatantly disrespectful by him.

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
You know what that means From now on, Braun is
not gonna cut promost. He's gonna start barking again.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
Oh good, do you think we're gonna get an intelligence
swar though down the road where we think that bron
Breaker is injured and he's out, and then Seth just
tells him like Seth loses a match or something. It says,
this is all your fault, and bron gets out of
the wheelchair and just starts beating the hell out of Seth.
Oh my god, fantastic. Patrick O'Connell says, for five if

(01:05:20):
Seth gets a four year title reign with his non
bloodline Bloodline. I'm out. Yeah, there's still no name for
the group. By the way, they're just Seth's boys.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
Yeah, yeah, Seth and the butt Boys. That's what I've
been calling them, the best boys.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
That's it is.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
You have these two once again, going back to the
first match there, even of Night one, he sent all
four guys out, and they're all wearing basically the same
exact gear color.

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
Why they're all happens a lot, and it fucks lazy.
It's just back to the basics.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
There's a weird, lazy shit.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
I'm sitting there and I'm thinking to myself, once again,
you're not supposed to make the show for every single
person that's sitting in a bar or has never watched
wrestling before in their life, right, but you should have
it to where if you're sitting next to somebody and
they should say, oh man, that guy's really cool. Good
which guy? But one in the black?

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
Which one?

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
All of them they're all like, okay, I mean, for
Fox's sake, what you said, Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
The one with no shirt on?

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
Sure, Like it's it's just lazy, just lazy, fucking slop.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
Jayleen j Sterdivians says, pluck the bird he's boring in
the ring.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
Well, well, I don't know if Jalen knows this, but
if she goes and watches and reads the comments on
our bird Girl video, I was informed that she's one
of the best in the business right now, best in
the world.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
You got fucked with no loub on those comments.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
My friends. Oh, people were pissed. They give me, well,
not even just as what's funny, not even like this
is one of my favorites, one of the best in
the world.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
Can you imagine somebody thinking that's it. But that's why
I don't even take it seriously. I saw those comments
that I get the notifications, and I'm just like, these
people aren't serious. They're not serious. It's just people that
are trying to get a reaction, because I really don't
believe she has that kind of fan base, because the
fan base that was coming after you, that was coming

(01:07:26):
after the video about Lyra was the same type of
psychotic fan base that we saw in the past with
John and Alexa Bliss and all of that nonsense from
back in the day. It's just unbelievable. And as soon
as Lyra messes up right like that Monday promo, they
all disappear. Where did they all go? Yep, they'll disappear.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
And there has to be at some point some sort
of understanding amongst people that like to consider themselves smart
fans that there is a legitimate difference between people who
were over on the internet and people who somebody will
spend money on one of my buddies. You guys all
know who I'm talking about. Was at that wrestle con
thing that happened at Summer Slam. He watched Tony Storm

(01:08:11):
have a line out the door the entire day, and
will Ospray and Ocatta sit there fucking playing patty Cake
because nobody was there to fucking pay to see them.
So they can all give them seven star matches and
say how fucking fantastic they were in the Tokyo Dome.
But when push comes to shove, they'll pay for the
girl that's a good promo and has a big ass,
but they won't pay for will Ospray.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
Nicholas Doc for ten pounds says, just a quick donation
to say thank you for keeping us all entertained. The
best wrestling podcast, Wrestling Soup motherfuckers. Thank you, Nicholas, thank you,
said my friend. So I guess we go on from
that point and Etsy, wells do we have here? Yeah,
we get right into the cage match with Solo, Sokoa
and Jacob Fatu.

Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
That was quick.

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
I was really unhappy with this. I think we talked
about it on Thursday. I know I talked about it
earlier tonight. The last thing that this match needed to
be was an exhibition match that happened in the cage.
They didn't utilize the cage other than the door. I mean,
what was there only two attempts at trying to climb
out of the cage. Like, I don't know. I know
you love the new Solo Lou, but this I'm glad.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
Let me let me rephrase that. I like Solo as
a guy because I think he's funny.

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
He definitely is.

Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
But I didn't I wasn't really into the feud. And
I mean, if you're going to go up once you're
once you're in the cage, it should be the end
of the storyline where the babyface prevails and then you
move on to something else. Now Solo is over again,
this ship keeps going. Whatever I'm like ah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
I mean, by the way, this whole crew that he
has with him, I'm trying to think of a good
name for them. I think I'm gonna I'm gonna call
him like the sweet Face Boys.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
Oh call them Isle of Samoa, because I mean, he
may as well just call over the entire island at
this point.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
But you know, dude, if you look at all of
them in the face, they all look like sweetye pies.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
Yes, I don't believe. I don't believe a single one
of them is this.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
They look like nice. Yeah, they look like a little
sweet man like. It's just like and here comes Tala,
Tala looks like a nice fella. Here comes Jeff Cobb,
and I'm like, he looks like a silly goose. I'm like,
I don't buy any lad.

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
It's super nuice.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
Even Solo, Like, you look at Solo's face, you go you.

Speaker 3 (01:10:33):
Want to hang out with Solo.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
He looks like a sweet guy. I'm like, these don't
look like mean guys. And that's also the reason why
when push comes to shove, it's why Jacob is over
and they aren't. Because Jacob at least can you know,
express himself and has facial expressions and looks like he's
been through some shit because he has or as.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
Very curse though even if you take away his looks, Jacob,
the way he carries himself and the way that he talks,
and his little mannerisms and the yacht mean like these
little catchphrase things that he does, he absolutely gets it.
He understands the showmanship before the match even begins. I
think Jacob is one of those blue Chippers that people

(01:11:17):
talk about, wait.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
Even more than the other guy who's the moment that
looks like a barber that has has a nice guy face. No,
by the way, this is another thing speaking of people
all having the same gear and shit, how many people
and I'm not even gonna include Dominis because you know
he's a Mexican to associated.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
With Blue Shtors.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
What's what's what's the mask count for the two nights?
A lot of people with masks coming.

Speaker 3 (01:11:43):
Out and the mass they look cheap, Yes, you think
it's it's not like a stop notch like, yeah, looks
something you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
Can get at, and Jacob all yeah, and Jacob having
a mask on. I get it, the werewolf thing or whatever,
but I'm like, his face is his is the cell Oh, yeah,
his face is the is what you're selling, Like, you're
putting a mask on this dude, and he's he's so
expressive and so like you look at him and you
see he's so intense.

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
Why are we covering that up? Because they can sell
masks at the merch table. Now, good point.

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
Put it on the strip. No, put with the face
of the fucking wolf on the shirt so you can
sell it as a mask as well and a shirt.
And Jacob Blake, he's the werewolf. Why not wear a
big fucking giant fur coat or whatever. But with his
fucking face and he looks big and fucking menacing, and

(01:12:38):
I don't know, I would prefer that then something that
hides his Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:42):
It looks like the barbarian. Like the barbarian. No, maybe he.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
Should come out like Lenny's. But instead of having for
his bees, he has moon cookies. Ah, and he can
sell the moon cookies instead too.

Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
To the someone's sweet thighs.

Speaker 4 (01:13:00):
Oh and sweet pies. There you go, Low, you just
made them a million dollars. I think that's that's a
good name for them. The smart Wait, what isn't there
a name like n F T or some ship what's
their actual name?

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
Oh, don't call them that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
My family tree?

Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
So yeah, m f T oh, m f T. I
thought you said n f T.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
I'll well, I think I think when I saw it earlier,
I said m f T. And I'm like, massive fucking titties?
Is that? What?

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
Like, what is going on with that? I thought it
was for missionary fucking Thomas.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
I'm like, all right, you know, making making five tacos.
I don't know what is it again? It's my family tree,
that's name. What is that like a site that you
fucking spit into and they tell you where your genetics
are from.

Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
My family?

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
It's all fun, the same family tree.

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
My family tree dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
Come see Tala and Smaller and Biggie and Siggy and
they'll all tell you exactly where you're from.

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
I like that, Come to my familytree dot com. I
really the match underperformed for me. I know that they
had JC and Tala and Tanga and Nerd and sweet
Tearts out there, but it really was just silly. Jimmy
looked completely ineffective. The I mean obviously solo one because

(01:14:18):
of interference.

Speaker 3 (01:14:19):
But I don't know they want am I the only
one who doesn't like when there's an interference, they start
the music of the guy. Every single time aage match.
Don't start the music for I mean, for whatever happened
at the end of the show. Fine, but during a match,
oh here I am. I told the music guy, I'm

(01:14:40):
coming right.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
Do you know what somebody should do to just like
just exemplify how fucking ridiculous that is. Just someone should
film somebody and they're walking down the street, right, you know,
but their significant other, they're by themselves coming home from work, right,
and then just in the distance they just hear somebody
going what the body's at the they played and they
played the music, and then a guy walks up with

(01:15:03):
a knife and he's like, give me a.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
You know what? Because of that? You're right, I'll take
something back with Bailey. Bailey popped up with no music,
just showed up. Yeah, fair enough.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
Speaking of ms TS no, but like, dude, what what?

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
But like, what do you do in that situation?

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
If you know what?

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
Now, if somebody, if I'm gonna get robbed, I hope
they have entrance music. I think that's that's fair. If
somebody was gonna be like give me your money, I'd
be like, what's your scene, dude, I need to you
have a mask or something just to go on.

Speaker 3 (01:15:41):
The Deadliest Dog on the chat? Do you think Rakhi
is going to complain tomorrow and about.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
What everything that's he's gonna Rakishi? My god, well that's
he at this point. I'm sure that there's sour grapes,
and I'm sure or to some extent, I understand because
if he wasn't a dildo, he would have had a
position within the company. Because when you're watching something like

(01:16:08):
that show Unreal and Bruce Pritchard is wielding power, You're like,
anybody could do this. I guess, I guess anybody could
have a fucking shot at it. You know, poor like
poor Abyss is sitting there like, boy, I sure hope
I make brother Love happy. I'm like, this is depressing
as fuck. This is so fucking sad. I would assume
at this point if I was somebody that had any

(01:16:29):
sort of tenure in that company whatsoever, I'd have a
shot at getting in there if I didn't piss somebody off.
When you see some of these chods that have positions
in there that you're like, what did they know? How
are they doing this? But no, I guess going back
to that match, it was. It was fucking fine, but
it was another thing with eleven sim own guys interfering.

(01:16:51):
So but it is what the fuck it is at
that point.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
Right, next match we have up was the Icy Championship
match AJ Styles versus Dominic Stereo. AJ coming out with
Eddie's old cruiser and solid match. I thought it was great.
Back and forth. It felt very even handed, which I
was not expecting. I mean, it really felt like Dominic
would perform a move and then AJ Styles would reciprocate,
and it went back and forth through most of it. Mysterio.

(01:17:17):
Dominic eventually got the win for it, but AJ didn't
look bad and I was actually kind of surprised because
I was hoping that this might have been that opportunity
for AJ Styles to have that last big run as
the IC guy. But this is still great, man. Yeah,
oh yeah, yeah. I don't want to seem like I'm
down on it. I just I really did enjoy it. Obviously.
There was a lot of Eddie Shenanigan's in there. Loved

(01:17:38):
the little chair spot where Dominic smashed the chair. The
referee is spending twenty minutes putting the turnbuckle pad back on,
which was kind of funny in itself. And then yeah,
he does the where he smashes the chair into the ring,
dominic falls down, AJ starts freaking out, and then wraps
the chair around his own throat, So when the referee
turns around, it's like, well, what the fun going on here?

(01:18:01):
It's great.

Speaker 2 (01:18:02):
This was the first thing I smiled at the whole night. Really, yeah,
because I'm watching this and I'm just it's just tedious,
like it's the bird girl bullshit and the fucking you know,
falling off of things.

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
Shit.

Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
I'm like, Okay, this is fine. But then you're actually
doing something's like this makes sense with the story, y,
this makes sense with the characters. You're doing something that's
fun and a little silly and a little tongue in cheek,
but it's not completely fucking goofy. You're doing a tribute
to somebody that the crowd knows and knows is important

(01:18:35):
as opposed to some random fucking PlayStation game, and you're
doing something where everybody can get involved in it and
have a good time, and they didn't do too much
knowing everybody else had done everything shy of saw on
their own nose off right, So it was really great
for what this card was. And if the main event

(01:18:56):
didn't go off as well as it did, even though
it was kind of just spam finishes, as they.

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
Say, this would have been the best thing on the
entire show. It's kind of funny. Zizo Zenk says aj
Styles cultural appropriating Mexican culture was like a fever dream.
I know he's kidding, but there were a lot of
people that were throwing it out. There was another guy,
thanks to uh doctor Brian Wright, that threw it up.
Guy said Becky Lynch, using zip ties. Absolutely disgusting when

(01:19:22):
I believe we're in the middle of Trump's administration's illegal
police state doing the same thing with innocent people in
the streets, and it doesn't matter where these kidnappings are
taking place. It was amazing to me how many political
messages they were trying to pull out of Summer Slam,
and I'm like, no, they're just doing silly shit to
have fun.

Speaker 3 (01:19:41):
Yeah, that's i't's where people are ya thinking, well, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
That's a little bit of a stress.

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
What's it like to have two people wrestle in a
cage when currently we're putting people in a cage swamp
and guys, listen, I fucking I find all that repugnant,
But that doesn't change the It's not like the messaging
of a dumb fucking wrestling card.

Speaker 1 (01:20:06):
Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:20:07):
If anything, you shouldn't be offended by the fucking the
potential correlation where you've got to stretch so far you're
going to dislocate your shoulder, but you should look at
it and go, wow, this is really not very creative,
is it. They have seven gimmick matches in a row
and most of them suck ass. That should bother you more.

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
You know, I.

Speaker 3 (01:20:28):
Really liked Wade Barrett during the Dominic match. He kept
going back to to remember on this day, like twenty
years ago was Dominic's like most like I can't remember
exactly what he said, like traumatic event, like he was
his father was fighting for him, gus Eddie Guerrero, and

(01:20:49):
then he went on through the whole like this was history.
I just thought it was great because it was like
I think it was like twenty years ago, like the
Summer Slam twenty years go. So that was for the
rights to Dominic. So that was great that he went
back on that and explained it. And that's why, like
the whole Aj wearing Eddie Guerrero's it was all about,

(01:21:12):
you know, like going back to that day where you
know Eddie fought for well yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:21:19):
Not just that, but AJ's been fucking with Dominic for weeks. Yeah,
I mean dresses the janitor and everything else, Like he's
been screwing with Dominic's head this entire time. It made
perfect sense to the storyline and to the character that
he would dress up and come out as Eddie Guerrero
with his fight against Dominick.

Speaker 2 (01:21:39):
And by the way, to sound like a little old,
little old man here, that gear was sharp. That has
some nice looking gear. Dude, he had that, and I'm
thinking to myself, I'm going I hope he doesn't just
fucking throw that in the back of the closet because
that stually looked good.

Speaker 1 (01:21:54):
Oh. I hope they sell a bunch of shirts. I
really do. Yeah, those were.

Speaker 2 (01:21:58):
Nice that those were really nice tights for someone to
wear them once. I was like, shit, dude, I hope
he fucking repurposes those into something I don't Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:22:07):
I was even talking about his version of the Eddie shirt. Yeah,
the flames out of the aj Styles shirt that had
the Eddie the eddie type font logo. I thought that
was kind of slick. Yeah, But then we get to
the main event. Guys, we go up to the big one.
It's time for the street Fight for the undisputed WWE Championship,
Cody Rhoades versus John Cena. There were a lot of

(01:22:29):
surprises in this match, and none of the ones I
was expecting. The biggest surprise being that John Cena stayed
face throughout this whole thing, especially after Friday. I was
I don't know, I think I was in the same campus.

Speaker 2 (01:22:41):
Well I missed the biggest The biggest surprise for me
is I didn't watch wrestling for four days and they
turned the biggest star in professional wrestling without me knowing.

Speaker 1 (01:22:49):
Oh yeah, I mean you didn't watch SmackDown, Well.

Speaker 3 (01:22:51):
I miss I missed like the first thirty minutes of
Smacked Out. I have no clue about this.

Speaker 2 (01:22:57):
Yeah, this this is quite literally like if you just
turned on a basketball game and you're like, wait, Lebron
James plays for the Celtics now, like Mike, wait, what happened?
Like it's just completely changed.

Speaker 3 (01:23:10):
Rocky said, fuck it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
So uh wait a second, I just put on that
new Rocky movie. He's a he's a ballet dancer. Now
he's not boxing anymore. That's interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:23:24):
I think that's part of it too, though I'm not
even sure even after this match, is John Cena really
a face, because I mean, he came down there and
he was overhamming it up, like he's hugging Alicia Taylor
and he's out there giving people the high fives like
I'm he's hugging Cody before the match starts. I don't know.
It just feels way almost, way too over the top.

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
So dude, to some extent, when I was watching that
and I watch what Cody like, Cody came out and
he looked like he was going to start crying, which
is very Cody like anyways. But when I saw that,
I'm like, oh, yeah, he's going over because just the
look on his face, because I could just picture him
in the backstage and John look at him and being like,

(01:24:12):
this is your company now, kid, and then him being
like oh, which, for what it's worth, I'm so glad
they didn't turn Cody, just due to the fact this
company needs somebody that's just a fucking babyface.

Speaker 1 (01:24:28):
Yeah, that's just just.

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
Yeah, we need just even one. We need one guy
that just comes out and says rav rah and fucking
scruffs the kid's head and gets the thumbs up. Just
one for fuck's sake. Just that's I'm fine with that.
But yes, it would be a little bit confusing to
anybody that didn't watch Friday Night SmackDown as to why

(01:24:52):
John Cena was kicking everybody in the balls and now
he's back to being Captain nice guy. That might have
required a video pathckage. As little as I enjoyed the
video baggages, that might have been a moment where you
did something like that during the show.

Speaker 1 (01:25:06):
But let me ask you this, do you really believe
that he's a face or do you believe that this
is just another psych out, this is another phase or
development of his heel character, because not just the fact
that they took the biggest babyface in history, turned him
heel and then just flipped him right back in the
time under twenty four hours, but do you think that
maybe because they've waited so long to turn John Cena heel,

(01:25:31):
that it's difficult for me to believe that they've already
abandoned the idea and just want to make him a
baby face for the next few months until December.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
This show is fucking slopped, dude, I know, but whatever.
They want a guy.

Speaker 1 (01:25:45):
Who people begged for twenty years for this dude to
be a heel, and we finally get it, and just
over the course of a week they decided to changed.

Speaker 2 (01:25:55):
There were ten instances on this show where guys and
girls did the same exact thing as the person in
the match before, with the same cutoff, the same look,
with the same everything. The communication has clearly broken down.
This isn't obviously as streamlined as we thought it was,

(01:26:17):
or thought it would be. Once again watching that uncensored
show or whatever the fuck. There was a point in
it where there I'm looking at them and they're all
sitting around at a boardroom and they're just like, yeah,
that sounds good. Why don't we just do that. I'm like, motherfucker.
You don't have like a PowerPoint presentation or nothing. You
don't have graphs, you don't have charts, you don't have

(01:26:38):
even a dig book laid out in front of you.
You're just sitting there like, yeah, I think we're gonna
get I think we'll, you know, we should get some
fucking some Jersey mics in here. I'm like, you guys
are booking a television show that makes a billion dollars,
and I get it, it's a fake TV show and
they might have left out a shit out of stuff,
But in my mind, I'm going, this doesn't feel very

(01:27:00):
organized anymore. It's whereas like, obviously Vince micro managed it
to a level that only a sociopath that wants to
shit on women's heads would do it. But like, there
needs to be clearly some sort of middle ground between Hey, everybody,
let's go through kickflips on our skateboards in the parking
lot and a guy that is an abusive, fucking psychopath.

(01:27:23):
And I don't know if they've gotten to there yet.
Whereas the people that are succeeding right now, where if
you look at them, and you all of us know this,
the people that are succeeding right now would have succeeded
no matter where the fuck you put them at any time, Gunther,
he would have succeeded anywhere right Like he would be fine.
Look at the women. Eo Sky, She's gonna be fine.

(01:27:44):
Ria Ripley, She's gonna be fine, Cody, to some extent
gotta be fine. But the people that are not being managed,
that are not being led, that are not being developed,
we see them all the time. And like you said, like, oh,
did they think this out long term?

Speaker 3 (01:28:02):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:28:02):
Probably a week and a half ago, Seene, it was like.

Speaker 1 (01:28:04):
Yeah, but sucks. So here's my problem with that. And
I can see your point because obviously the first name
that you can just even talk about over the weekend
is Cross. But when you're talking about Sina, he's not
just another guy on the roster. He's literally a figurehead
for the company. He's an icon for the company. He's
their brand ambassador for decades. Like this isn't just some

(01:28:28):
throwaway guy that you can just shovel off TV next
week and then forget about him for six months. First off,
he doesn't have that much time left and his retirement
is becoming a big deal. So it would be really,
really irresponsible and shortsighted to just forget about any kind
of development that they had with arguably the biggest star
they've had in the two thousands and up in WWE,

(01:28:52):
and just forget everything that they've done to sacrifice it
for a couple of high fives over the next one
nine dates.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
Booking this like an indie show. Anyways, that's how at
each other? Right, Yeah, that's that's so weird.

Speaker 3 (01:29:07):
It's weird coming from WWE, because like I've lived it.
I've seen it myself, and I you know, for aw
you'll see things repeating and somebody's doing somebody else's finish
and people are going to kick out of it when
the match before they did not. It happens just but
WWE usually that's not the thing you would expect from them. Then,

(01:29:29):
like you said, I would see the same spots, like
especially like big things like two matches in a row
where someone has their ant tied. I'm like, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 (01:29:38):
Like how right?

Speaker 3 (01:29:39):
Like like years ago? Like I mean again, fuck McMahon.
But at least it wouldn't even be on the same
fucking weekend that they would have somebody with their antide.
It would be one person, right, and like all the
stipulations were on the same show, same fucking story line,

(01:30:00):
seeing kind of we went on and on about the
babyfaces whore you know, reacting the same way and pussies
and as like fuck I yeah, I don't get it.
I wonder if there's there's so clue.

Speaker 1 (01:30:15):
Aren't these growing pains that WWE has already overcome decades ago?
Like I understand when people are comparing this to aw
AW still growing or not growing or shrinking or whatever
they're doing. But WWE has had how many forty fifty
years to learn these mistakes of not doing the same
shit on the same week, let alone three times in

(01:30:37):
the same night. It's I don't it doesn't make you
know what I mean? Like, how did you guys become
billionaires with these these twenty dollars mistakes?

Speaker 2 (01:30:47):
I think we're overestimating billionaires.

Speaker 1 (01:30:50):
Well maybe, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:30:52):
I wonder much freedom they give to their wrestlers now
as compared for right?

Speaker 1 (01:30:59):
But which which?

Speaker 2 (01:31:00):
Here's the thing though, you know, when we talk about
giving wrestlers or employees in any capacity, or even people
the freedom to do certain things, when admish I already
know the answer to this with you because we've had
a million conversations like this. But Lou, when you were
like ten years old, would your parents let you go

(01:31:22):
wherever the fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:31:22):
You wanted to?

Speaker 2 (01:31:23):
Pretty much whenever?

Speaker 1 (01:31:24):
Fuck?

Speaker 2 (01:31:25):
No? Right?

Speaker 1 (01:31:26):
Yeah, but you.

Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
Know by the time you're what sixteen, seventeen years old,
probably saying all right, you're gonna go out, but you
gotta call me, you gotta let me know where you are.
The rules change, right, Yeah, yeah, And it's the same
exact thing with people when they're more experienced at a
job or a skill or something they're better at to
where hey, you know what, once again, John Cena Gunther

(01:31:48):
see him punk. These people that you know you can trust,
go ahead and fucking do it. We trust you, you know,
twelve minutes, make him look strong. You go over with
the power bomb, you'll be okay. But you can't give
that same exact thing to their trustworthy sixteen year old's kid.
Then you're ten year old that you know still's not

(01:32:09):
wiping their ass?

Speaker 1 (01:32:10):
Great, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:32:11):
Like that, but that's unfortunately, it seems like that was
Aw's entire calling card. And now sometimes I'm launching WWE
and I'm going, how are they making these mistakes?

Speaker 1 (01:32:22):
How is that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:22):
Still happening with all of this supposed infrastructure. Is Hurricane
Holms just sitting around just is he just eating those
sour Patch kids and nothing else? Is that all he's doing?
Is you just eating sour Patch kids? What's fucking Davari doing?
Is Zavari playing Candy Crush on his phone? What are
these motherfuckers doing, dude, because they should be talking to
each other and saying, like we've now said multiple times,

(01:32:45):
why are we having the same fucking finish with a
gimmick back to back on a pay per view in
a stadium with fifty thousand people.

Speaker 3 (01:32:52):
You know, it's crazy because when I have worked for
Triple A, Conan who comes like, okay, so what's the
go home sequence? And I would have to tell him
everything that I was doing from the comeback to the
final fucking move of the match, and he would ask
that to everybody, so nobody like would be doing the
same thing at least for the last fucking few minutes

(01:33:14):
of the match, So people like, you know, all the
matches are different, they tell a different story. He would
go to every single match like, what's the go home spot?
And from from the comeback? Tell me what you're doing,
and then he would check make sure, like nobody else,
you know, everything's different. So I'm wondering fucking Triple A
is doing that. Yeah, that's happening. Now, what's happening? Because

(01:33:39):
they used to do it for sure, because that didn't
happen before. And I can I can even say, like
a few months ago it didn't happen.

Speaker 2 (01:33:48):
Why now, right, It's just I've had instances on a
show where I've been the ref after two matches where
it was a finish where the ref clearly fucked up.
They weren't, you know, like oh, the ref was distracted
or he didn't see that the guy had his foot
on the ropes or whatever the fuck. And I looked
at the people and I said, I'm gonna go out

(01:34:09):
there and eat my balls. And I've walked through the
fucking curt and gotten booed like I was a heel
because they're like, oh, these refs are fucking idiots, right,
These russ are assholes. They're fucking up all the matches.
They just fucked up two matches in a row. And
then they're like, well, now this guy's coming out, he's
gonna fuck up too, And it's like, well, yeah, you
just these are not This isn't heavy shit. This isn't

(01:34:31):
shit to people that you know, you need to have
Michael Hayes level fucking resume years to know better.

Speaker 1 (01:34:38):
But well, let's talk about them let's talk about the
physicality of the match. First off, the crowd had finally awoken.
They were in full form on their feet. People saying
that the crowd was loud on Night one clearly didn't
hear the amounts of audio that we got in the
main event of Night two because this crowd finally was
at their full moment. Lot of attitude adjustments. Sena did

(01:35:02):
a code red, which was great. I even enjoyed the
little spot that they had Whereina had Cody on the
outside of the ring and that he comes up the
entrance with Cody on his back for the FU for
the Fireman's carry, which he just dropped him right on
the ramp. Yeah, it was. It was beautiful, like there
was a lot of visuals in this. And another reason

(01:35:23):
why I still think kind of Sina's maybe a little
bit heal was because there were just moments in there
where he felt like he was still a little more
visceral than good guy John Cena because good guy John
Cena isn't so aggressive and it almost feels weird that
they're having this match. And I think I talked about
this with Marvin and the guys over there too, was
that it just felt overly aggressive for a match that

(01:35:46):
technically doesn't even need to happen now that John Cena
turned baby face. But it was absolutely a great show.
And I guess you get to the point at the
end right where John Cena loses and you have brock
Lesnar showed up or I'm sorry, Sina wins Jesus Christ. Sorry,
Sena wins Roads defeated Sina's win the title. Jesus Christ,

(01:36:07):
I'm sorry, that's right, and that got overshadowed. Yeah yeah,
Rhodes want.

Speaker 3 (01:36:12):
It cutter in the table and is.

Speaker 1 (01:36:15):
Fish Yeah, yeah, sorry, and then brock Lesnar shows up
after all the good guy fanfare at the end of this,
and people lose their minds for brock Lesnar returning with
the super Bullet, which was great cowboys, and he comes
down to the ring, and I mean, like, what was
your thoughts on that? What was your thoughts at seeing
brock Lesner show up.

Speaker 2 (01:36:36):
Well, I'm I'm surprised, to be honest with you, but
with the way that these shows are right now, you
kind of need to you need to extend a lifeline
as far as the match. So I did want to
say this one little thing about it. The only thing
that I didn't like, even though you know, once again
we're spamming finishers, two of the biggest guys to ever

(01:36:57):
do it. I mean more specifically Sina than Roads at
this point. But you know, okay, we'll let some shit slide.
But the whole thing with Sina taken the pile driver
and then wrestling for another twenty five minutes, when WWE
usually does that as like an actual injury angle consistently.
That did kind of fucking annoy me because I'm like,

(01:37:18):
all right, the last time you had somebody take a
pile driver, you pretended like their neck was broken and
took them off television and now seen as just like
get you know, dancing and doing a fucking cart wheel
and wrestle in another half an hour. Wasn't crazy about that.
But with Brock, I what are you gonna do? Apparently
Roman Reigns needs to be the new Brock and out

(01:37:39):
of the building by seven point thirty. So you got
to have somebody that you can pay millions of dollars
and will stay there until eleven o'clock at night. And
if that's Brock Lessner for now, that's who it's gonna be.
I mean, is he going to show.

Speaker 1 (01:37:52):
Up on Monday?

Speaker 2 (01:37:53):
Yeah, probably, You're gonna do a little thing and then
maybe disappear for another month, and it's gonna be what
it's gonna be. I honest to god think one of
the main reasons why they just said, hey, you know what,
fuck it we're putting Brock on the television show is
that now TKO is just openly eating whatever shit sandwich

(01:38:14):
comes their way with their association with fucking bag of shit.
So they're like, you know what, what are they gonna say,
Brock had some he got in some trouble. We don't
give a fuck, you know what I mean. I think
that's a big part of it. They probably would have
had Brock there six months ago if they weren't hesitant
because of distinct that follows him, and more than likely,
I don't know, Brock wanted to go fishing or something.

(01:38:36):
He gets fucking one hundred million dollars, They don't know.
He doesn't have to do shit right right, But I
don't know. You haven't beat up Cody again, I don't know, Like, look,
what the fuck do you what do you do with
Brock at this point?

Speaker 3 (01:38:47):
Well, I'm surprised he's there like I I pop because
I was like, because I felt like the show was like, Okay,
they're friends, yay. I was expecting I love you that.
I was kind of bummed because the match, Yeah, I
love the match. Besides like like there's there were so
many finishes, but I was like, it's the main event.

(01:39:07):
It's it's like they're what the third match now ish
or anyway, it's been going for a while, so okay,
Like I get that, it's kind of it's been built.
But I was like so bummed because I felt like
you could see Cody's face changing and he was getting mad,
and I'm like, oh, it's coming, Bret Hartstone, call Steve Austin.

(01:39:30):
I was waiting for the blood or something, and then
nothing happened.

Speaker 1 (01:39:34):
I was like, h so, yeah, you called it on Thursday.
You thought it was going to be a double turn.

Speaker 3 (01:39:39):
Yeah, because I was like, and especially with what happened
yesterday with SETH, I was like, so they leave us
with set yesterday and now they leave us with blah.
So when the music, like when you heard ROX music,
I was like fuck yeah. Then I had a reaction,
so I was happy. I was like it was not over.

(01:40:00):
Just boy, with two guys like, oh, thank you, you're
the best, So thank you You're be I love you too.
Oh you hang up? No, you hang up first. So
I was happy about that, But then all these questions like,
so does it mean that Brock's name is not in
the lawsuit anymore? Doesn't mean that they thought it was

(01:40:20):
him but it's someone else or because I was like
would they really take a chance, And I was like
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:40:27):
Think so it's like cash Bettel looked over the lawsuit
and he didn't see anything, so oh yeah, it's yeah,
it's been The FBI looked over that lawsuit and they
said that Bracklastner didn't get any videos of people making pee,
So everything's okay. I no, man, it's he's just there.

(01:40:49):
He's not there for a long time. He's there for
a good time, and he'll make a bunch of money.
He'll more than likely go to the overseas shows. I
don't know if you have him come out and kill
the fucking Seth boys or you have him go after
the because still like, okay, you give him some exhibition matches.

(01:41:11):
Who's who's going to beat him?

Speaker 3 (01:41:13):
Money match is bron Breaker versus Lesner?

Speaker 2 (01:41:16):
I know, and now bron Breakers maybe not, but could
possibly maybe thinking about it being hurt.

Speaker 3 (01:41:22):
So who knows, Maybe he's gonna be there next week,
because that's how it works.

Speaker 1 (01:41:27):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:41:28):
Maybe he tore his aco, maybe he's just working the
marks brother.

Speaker 1 (01:41:32):
Or maybe maybe brock Lesner goes home and we don't
see him for six months.

Speaker 3 (01:41:36):
Yeah right, well line dates. Let's see.

Speaker 2 (01:41:42):
Maybe brock Lessner was in town to go to a
fucking concert or something and they were like, we'll give
you three million dollars and he's like, ah, right, yeah,
I guess. I guess I'll show up for three million dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:41:54):
But not like this.

Speaker 2 (01:41:55):
That is one of the problems is now we're looking
at it in this where you end up with the
lucy goosey Are you a heal?

Speaker 1 (01:42:02):
Are you a face?

Speaker 2 (01:42:03):
We have no fucking real, you know, idea of what
we're gonna do with anybody, And like even like Dan
saying in the chat, now it's like, okay, you have
lastnar verse Gunther, right.

Speaker 3 (01:42:12):
Yeah, they were kind of working on it like before he.

Speaker 2 (01:42:16):
Left, but Gunther just you also had guns lungs.

Speaker 1 (01:42:21):
Yeah on your.

Speaker 3 (01:42:26):
I love it. He looks so depressed.

Speaker 2 (01:42:28):
I gotta say one of the funniest things that it
just shows you once again where you have these people
coming up with these ideas and writing these storylines and
no one consults anybody that apparently lives in reality. Uh,
They're like, gun There's greatest weakness a wrestling hold, right,
you know what I mean? Like they're like, he's susceptible

(01:42:50):
to hold. I'm like, that's what that's wrestling?

Speaker 1 (01:42:54):
Is you fucking well for at some point the fan
base had turned submission around and like there's losing a
match and then they're submitting, Like submissions are just the
ultimate disgrace now, but it's still it's a wrestling It's right, No, no,
I'd get it. It's just silly because it's not like
it's something new. It's not like they just introduced submissions

(01:43:17):
in twenty twenty four.

Speaker 2 (01:43:18):
Floyd Mayweather's greatest weakness a punch in the face. Yeah,
it's like it's exactly what it's supposed to be. I
don't right, I don't get it. Like it's like, listen,
Gunther's good at everything. The only way you can beat
him is wrestling. It's like, fucking sure, sounds sounds good
to me. Folks, but no, like it's still yes, if

(01:43:40):
Lesnar now is even here, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:43:43):
Once a month.

Speaker 2 (01:43:45):
Sure sounds great, but you're also then putting him in
this position, like I said, to plug and play him
with a bunch of people that aren't going to beat him. Right,
and then you have a bunch of people. Where are
we back to square one again? Where is Seth's gonna
say I won't lose to am ha ha?

Speaker 1 (01:44:06):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:44:06):
Fox said, I want to see him against Gunter, against Seamus,
against fucking russev uh like meat on meat fucking yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:44:17):
Yeah, Well you want to you want to see him
have like fights and competitive matches or something that's weird.

Speaker 1 (01:44:24):
You know that's crazy. Right, there's flips to be had.
Patrick O'Connell for two says, extra donations for missus j
C Jaane Poster. I don't have one of those. I
have an Io Sky one and a Poppy one. Oh good. Jude.

Speaker 2 (01:44:38):
A buddy of mine worked Tiga Knox this weekend, and
I had no idea wasn't until I clicked on the picture.
I was like, I was like, I've never seen that
girl before. I'm like, oh, she's pretty. I wonder who
that is that I clicked at her. I'm like, oh,
that's fucking Tiga Knox, the third most hated women's wrestler
on the planet or something. Apparently I had no idea,
and then I remember you was.

Speaker 1 (01:45:00):
CJ for ten says Triple H ignoring that we want
Cross Chance on the WWE post show and playing them
off as chanting for Brock, as me thinking Cross might
be cooked, Slash gone from the company, sad, and I
saw the actual picture up in our chat where he
responded to the actual we want Cross Chance, and he says, unreal.

(01:45:21):
They write the scripts, but the fans write the truth.
Thank you, TikTok.

Speaker 2 (01:45:25):
And if this is not a work, what a waste? Yeah,
you know, for the for the fake seth you know,
tors Labia or something like, for that happening. You have
this thing that could actually work and make you money
and actually get somebody else.

Speaker 1 (01:45:44):
Must you feel that was deflated last night? I feel
like Sammy winning was bad for Sammy and it was
obviously bad for Cross.

Speaker 2 (01:45:52):
Yes, yeah, it's it's losing. It's losing to Landy Pofo.
That's what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:45:58):
I don't know why Cross lost, and I don't know
why bron and Brunson lost, Like, right, doesn't make sense
to me? Like, well, it does it a little bit now,
because why would they put them over because Centa is mac.

Speaker 2 (01:46:11):
Yeah right, the actual star is here. Uh it's it's
very laughable to me because was it fifteen years ago
me and you would talk about this miss where I'd say,
WWE has created a tier of wrestler where they're perceived
as main event talent, but they're not a draw. Nobody

(01:46:34):
buys tickets to see them. They're not actually technically over,
but they're just seen enough and putting enough main events
that people believe they're a star. Good example of that
is Edge. If Edge was the giant star that everybody
believed him to be when he showed up at these
AEW cards, they wouldn't sell eight hundred, say fucking tickets.

(01:46:55):
That wouldn't happen, right, But now that's just like normal.

Speaker 1 (01:47:01):
You know what, though, I will give you a caveat
to that. I remember seeing Hulk Hogan and TNA at
the Seers Center, and the Seers Center is much smaller
than the United Center of the All State and it
was barely half full. That was Hulk Hogan but.

Speaker 2 (01:47:15):
There's a big part of it. You can't sell tickets
to something that people don't know exists.

Speaker 1 (01:47:21):
They they don't TNA, they didn't know he was there.

Speaker 2 (01:47:27):
I mean, have you guys who hasn't had the experience
where they're fucking looking at you know, Instagram or something
like that and their friends like they're at a concert.
You're like, I didn't even know that band was in town.

Speaker 1 (01:47:38):
Yeah, no, you're not wrong. I understand that. Well. That
calls to promotion and stuff like that too, But we're
at the point of the night. End of the night,
lou favorite match, least favorite match in overall grade for
the show.

Speaker 3 (01:47:51):
There's like three matches that I really liked. I like Dominic's,
I like the main event and the first match. Yeah,
these are like my tops. Uh, which one was better?
I'll go with the first one. I think it like
started the crowd just the way uh they needed to. Uh,

(01:48:12):
the good woman won. Everybody did their job perfectly in
the match, And yeah, I really love the women's match.
Least uh least favorite. I mean, fuck uh, Becky and
Lyra too long, too much. People in the crowd didn't care.
It was uncomfortable to watch that the wrestler had to

(01:48:35):
go through the wave and people standing and leaving and
nobody telling them like, let's go home with something, and
I don't know, like uh and the antide everything like
was no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (01:48:50):
Ready, I'm going to be every guy on Twitter that
talks to you fisto. Uh you see, I actually like
women and respect were women's wrestling. I know you don't clearly,
so I would say that was the best thing that's
ever happened. I don't know if we've ever seen like
Ricky Steamboat versus Rick Flair's basically that, you know, not till.

Speaker 3 (01:49:13):
Man and Ricky Steinboat WrestleMania three. We're talking, Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:49:16):
Yeah, classics.

Speaker 1 (01:49:17):
It was. It was up there.

Speaker 2 (01:49:19):
You know, nothing says classic like chaining somebody to a
ring post and hitting them in the tummy with a
little stick forty times. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:49:28):
No, it was no way it was fun for her either,
like for no reactions.

Speaker 1 (01:49:33):
Well that's it too.

Speaker 2 (01:49:34):
It goes back to like I said at the beginning
of the show. You see these people and they're taking
these bumps and they're doing this shit and nobody cares,
and I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:49:43):
Like, why why do that? Why are you hurting.

Speaker 2 (01:49:46):
Yourself for no reaction. People don't give a shit, they're
not invested. If you would have gotten the same exact thing,
if you get the same exact thing out of an
atomic drop that you do jumping off the top broke
like saboo through a fucking table on the outside, then
I don't know what to tell you. But this show itself,

(01:50:07):
it was clearly, clearly much better than the first night.
But the first night was insultingly bad. That to me,
the idea that there were.

Speaker 1 (01:50:16):
I thought it was a total fail. I actually gave
me enough. I don't know if you listened to the show,
but yes I did. I listened to it. I never
give out f's. I know it's a weird thing to say,
but I was absolutely disgusted with Nightline. I should have been.
I should have been.

Speaker 2 (01:50:34):
That's usually my job is to give out the f's
for the show. Thank you for mish, thank you for everything.
But but but you know what, the truth truthfully, I
would have also have done the same thing. So yeah,
I would have, because that was it was complete dog shit.
Now compared to that first night, this was a pretty

(01:50:54):
passable show.

Speaker 1 (01:50:56):
Yeah. Actually, we have early results of our poll right now,
what would what would you gray w W SummerSlam twenty
twenty five, Night two at thirty nine percent, we got
A at thirty five percent, we got B nineteen percent
C and eight percent D n F. I'd say and A.
It was way too generous.

Speaker 2 (01:51:15):
I would say that's study plus. Yeah, I'm honest to
god saying C minus D and wow.

Speaker 1 (01:51:24):
Yeah, And a lot of it is because of nitpicky shit.
And I know that. Like booking an entire night of
Dimmick matches, I mean, that wasn't right idea.

Speaker 3 (01:51:33):
There was like four matches that were decent to good though,
because the Lather match was good.

Speaker 1 (01:51:39):
Yeah, yeah, it was a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (01:51:41):
Yeah, crazy, Yeah, the lather match, the women's match yep,
the Dominic's match, and the main event. So that's four match.

Speaker 1 (01:51:48):
Over absolutely Yeah, the solo and Jacob Fasu. Honestly, that
was my least favorite match. I know, Becky and Lyra
would normally be my worst match, But the problem is
is I had no faith going into that match, so
nothing was lost. I knew it was going to be
crap from the beginning, and I was proved right, So
that wasn't really shocking to me. What was shocking though,

(01:52:10):
was Solo and Jacob being in a cage and not
doing anything with it.

Speaker 3 (01:52:16):
That's like raw to build up something else.

Speaker 1 (01:52:20):
Yeah, this should have been a savage match between two
smow and family members that want to rip each other
apart using steel, and it ended up being a bunch
of guys showing up that were all related to just
kick the shit out of each other, and Solo wins
because and I just I don't know. I hate those
kind of matches, especially when the whole thing is about

(01:52:41):
what is the gimmick. The gimmick is the steel cage?
Can we use the steel cage? Like I said earlier,
there was only one or two attempts of them actually
trying to get out of the cage side using the door.
I know that was brilliant. I loved Jacob for that.
I loved it, but it was it could have it

(01:53:02):
should have been so much more, and it was a
total letter.

Speaker 2 (01:53:04):
And the finish was goofy because he already had something
where Jacob ran his head into the fucking well into
the cage and completely no sold it because he was
being all samo in af And then the finish was
I got. The finish was I got hit in the
head and all of a sudden it hurts.

Speaker 3 (01:53:20):
Yeah, Okay, let's say like SummerSlam should be a one
night thing.

Speaker 1 (01:53:25):
Yes, yeah, that too, honestly. But you know what the
problem is is, Stephanie McMahon went out there. She's very
proud of herself. The fact that they got one hundred
and fifteen thousand, and that's all the optics are going
to care about, right, Financially, all the sponsors are going
to hear is, Wow, they did one hundred and fifteen thousand.
I can't wait to throw money at WWE to sponsor
my shit. Like that's what they're going to say, right,

(01:53:48):
I'm telling you, if this trend continues, I would not
be surprised if one day somebody says, hey, why do
we make Rustlemania three nights? And I started on Friday?

Speaker 2 (01:53:59):
Well, you know what, I think what we should start
doing is making survivor series like Hanukkah eight crazy nights,
eight crazy nights a survivor series. Yea, then it's a
real survivor series because it's a war of attreasure with
the audience and the wrestlers. Yes to where they just say,
do I have to show up tomorrow night and they're
like yes, or.

Speaker 1 (01:54:19):
Or better yet, we could do like Summer Slam history
months and it's just the whole month of Summer Slam.

Speaker 3 (01:54:25):
I'm not up to date with Christianity or everything like that.
But there's a thing that lasts forty days.

Speaker 1 (01:54:32):
It went.

Speaker 2 (01:54:37):
WWE presents the Men Trumble. You have to give up
something every day for forty days.

Speaker 1 (01:54:43):
One entrance comes in every day. Yeah, that'd be great.
Did you just eliminate the next guy?

Speaker 3 (01:54:49):
Only fish.

Speaker 1 (01:54:52):
Sammy's ay is just sitting in the ring for twelve
hours waiting for the next guy to show up. That'd
be great.

Speaker 2 (01:54:57):
And then the guy comes in and hits him with
the bat and he's like, I don't appreciate that, Please
don't do it.

Speaker 1 (01:55:01):
It was very rude of you to hit me with
that bet. Favorite match on the card easily dominic Mysterio
in AJ styles. It was just a lot of fun.
It was really evenly matched, and I was happy the
right guy won. So this was I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:55:17):
Great WWE in a way where people get a guest
where they're like, oh, how could you possibly say that?
But I expect them to be better. I expect them
to be better. And you know when me and you
used to actively review the NXT shows because we had
time and there weren't seven hundred WWE shows a day. Yeah,

(01:55:39):
where on the NXT shows I was giving there, I
would be like, yeah, I give this a bould be like,
well you good do to b I'm like, because they've
wrestled for ten minutes. These are kids, like you have
to be a little bit more lenient with them. But
when I'm looking at you in a fucking NFL stadium
and your match sucks or it doesn't make sense, or

(01:56:00):
the entire thing is a disorganized, sloppy clusterfuck, I'm going
to be more harsh towards you than four hundred fucking
indie match shows, right with you know what I mean?
With six people that were playing football two years ago
and now they're trying to figure out how to be
pro wrestlers. I'll be more fair in that situation. But yeah,

(01:56:23):
I would give this like a C minus or an. Honestly,
I would actually give it a bee. I'm honestly switching
overhere to a B for this night.

Speaker 1 (01:56:32):
Night one was an F. This was easily a BEE.
I enjoyed a lot more of it. Maybe it's because
night one was so bad that Night two was almost
refreshing in comparison.

Speaker 2 (01:56:43):
So it's diarrhea versus just a little loose.

Speaker 1 (01:56:47):
Stool glu fisto. Where can people catch you and find
you online?

Speaker 3 (01:56:52):
You can find me on ex Atlefisto, on Instagram Atlefisto arts,
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Speaker 1 (01:57:22):
See yes, and make sure to check out the LFG shows. Yes, sure, awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:57:26):
Yeah, me and Jeff Flickman, we're gonna review. I think
it's number seven.

Speaker 1 (01:57:30):
Yeah. That came out tonight too. What a weird time
to air that to LFG right in the middle of
Summer Slam.

Speaker 2 (01:57:36):
But whatever, Well, well, they're counterprogramming like they do to
aw those destin the fuck that must be it.

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(01:58:06):
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