THE MANY FACIALS OF ROMAN REIGNS (Wrestling Soup 8.27.25)

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
Is that that's not new nine snails?

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Oh yeah, this is Trent. Can't you hear it?

Speaker 2 (00:15):
I can hear it.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
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would it proper consummate, don't tell me that playing it

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Speaker 2 (00:39):
Bombs and it. I would been so happy if this really.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Was his new ships really bad Sorry I'm thinking of yeah,
but it's really fucking have.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
A different accounts and we have nothing. He even as forever, I.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Know, even the repetitive ship is like, okay, you know
there's the Trent sounds, the nine inch nails sounds.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
But isn't he a born again Christian too? Isn't it
his whole deal of.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
I don't know what the fuck that was. He never
talked about it again, so who the fu?

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Maybe somebody smartened them up, like they were like, yeah,
you gotta keep that. Got a k fabe that brother,
you know, for the gimmick.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
I mean it's either that or he's a part of
a cult. That's also possible. Right, that's a lot that's
a Hollywood thing, right.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Honest to god, at this boy. You know, for all
to talk about cults in the nineties, that happened, you know,
you know, there was seemingly a little bit of a
revival from the sixties and seventies, and they started making
documentaries about it and everything. Then that went away, and
I'm starting to think maybe we needed to continue talking

(01:48):
about calls.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
It feels like it. Actually, there was somebody that hit
us up on YouTube and said that we need to
go back and review some of our old shows. And
I was blown away by that. And he's like, yeah,
you guys need to go back because you guys got
a lot right years ago. And I'm like, and I
know we got a lot wrong too, of course, but
I kind of like that. I don't know if you're

(02:11):
interested in that, but.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
No, I think that's still funny. Yes, I think that's
although I can almost guarantee you the funniest thing to
me will be some of the stuff that I say
and then I go, oh shit, am I still saying
the same ten years later? I'm making the same point,
and I'm like, oh, yeah, because I'm discussing the same topic,
which is wrestling. And you know, some things don't change.

(02:37):
Some things just kind of are what they are, do
you know.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
But that's not the interesting part to me. The interesting
part isn't the philosophy of wrestling, which you know very well,
Like it's more than just the mechanics, Like you understand
the philosophy of wrestling, but it's more along the lines
of the directions of fates unknown different wrestling we thought

(03:00):
were going to be big once upon a time, ladies
and gentlemen, Joey was Becky Lynch's biggest fan.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
And to be fair, and this is not to give
myself too much credit, she had a great trajectory until
COVID and then having kids, you know what.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
To be fair, COVID fucked every lot.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Of Yeah, Drew, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
I was even talking about in the ring, even the fans.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, well, yes, of course that.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
I still will never forget the silliness of just having
hundreds of people, sometimes two on different screens, literally cheering
at home into their computer cameras. It was so fucking surreal.
It looked like it belonged on like I don't know,
Crash TV or RoboCop or Running Man or something.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
You know, it's it's startling to be at this point
how many times, you know, at this point as somebody
that's forty years old, I've lived through the weirdest fucking
events that anybody that's probably under the age of you know,
I don't know, twenty year old will probably still remember it.

(04:10):
But still in five or ten years, we'll be talking
like we went to outer space. We'll be talking like
we had all this great like the same way that
people would go and fight in a war one hundred
years ago and that would be the defining thing of
their life. And that's not obviously taking away from that,
but we're gonna be like, yeah, you know, then there
was like a nine to eleven and then there was

(04:32):
like ten economy crashes, and then there was a fucking
plague and shit and miss that and the other thing,
you know, normal stuff.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
I think I think our crossover generations will be the
last ones to experience all the great hits of the
nineteen or the two thousands, the nineteen hundreds before before internet,
after Internet, I mean wrestling in the eighties, dude. We
will remember what prime Bob Heenan was like, you know

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what I mean, there will never be another fucking Bobby Heenan.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Ever, No, I don't think in what I think worries
me as far as like anything, not even just wrestling related, oh,
entertainment in general, because I'm not I'm not sure if
we're ever going to have big stars that go across
you know, different cultures and ages and you know, at

(05:26):
races and whatever like, I'm not sure if we're going
to have many of those going forward.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
I think we're doing that right now. Honestly, Yeah, I
think you're kind of mixing that up. I know what
you mean as far as America goes, like when you're
thinking of a Hulk Hogan.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Oh yeah, outside of the court, or you're.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Thinking right, but outside of the country. Look at what
guys like Dominic are fucking doing and Kaiser like they're
they're kind of breaching other cultures that w w WAN
haven't really touched.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
If ever, well, I think it's it is funny at
least in just the wrestling world where that has been
a thing for whatever forty fifty years.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Maybe right, maybe I'm.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Rounded up by saying fifty where there's just some guy
where you go, yeah, over here, he'll wrestle in front
of like seven hundred people, but if he goes to Japan,
he's legitimately like a fucking god. Or in Mexico he's
this humongous star. And granted, like that doesn't happen in
just wrestling. That's a music thing too, where I'll tell

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a story every couple of months where there's some Latin
artists that I hear out in public or I see
a shirt or something and I'm like, oh, I wonder
who that is, And then I'll look him up on
Spotify and they'll be like two trillion monthly listens and
I'm like, oh, oh Jesus, Okay, But all right, So
let's a lot.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Of wrestling philosophy for a second in that same vein
is it better or worse? Because and here's where I'll
I'll make the state a case for the eighties type wrestlers.
Right in the eighties, when you're talking about people being
a household name and the legend being bigger than the man,
it wasn't. Because there was clicks online. Those fans riled

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themselves up into a frenzy of what they thought people
like Hulk Hogan actually were and represented, Whereas today there
is far more ways and there's much more exposure globally
than ever before. But as soon as you see them,
people are able to decide for themselves. So even though

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they get the clicks, the retention I don't think is there.
Whereas when you go back again to the eighties, the
reason those superstars were larger than life was because of
the way that WWF build them, the way Vince McMahon
built them, the way the cartoons and the merchandise projected them.

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They were almost American mythical gods.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Well because so few people were given platforms like that,
you know, And I don't like the overuse of word
platform because I think at this point, you know, even
though it's very easy for people to get let's just
use wrestling terminology to get pushed or shown in a
way that puts them above other people immediately, you know

(08:14):
what I mean, that is still very very easy to do.
Like theyre think of the goofs that go on kill
Tony right where here's the guy that's like, I'm going
to go do an Andrew Day's Clay impression and overnight
he has fifty thousand followers on Instagram, it's like, oh, well,
that's interesting that that can happen. But for the most part,

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it's very very rare where it's just like straight across
the board, like you said, you're going to be on
a Saturday morning car too, right, Okay, shit, how many
millions of kids in the country you're.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Seeing you and that's their first A lot of kids
that was their first exposure too. That's what I'm saying
is like the way that it was built up, whereas
if you put out at ww WE matter fact, ww
put a cartoon like a family Guy cartoon, what was
it like ten years ago, maybe a little less than that,
and it bombed miserably. It was just stupid for the
sake of being stupid. It was absurd, And it's been

(09:10):
a while since I watched it. I don't think I
ever really you know, got big chuckles out of it.
But I mean they made an attempt, but there was
no way that that was going to encapsulate those children's
minds like superstars of Rustle, like wrestling superstars, you know.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Right, Well, that's that also comes with there's just so
many different places for people to watch things and.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Camp ww sorry, I want to clarify, thank you anything.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Oh yeah, I was like, here's a little kid John Zena. Yeah, yeah,
yes it was dumb, but like that's it's dumb. But
once again, it's like they're just trying. They're just trying
to see what they can pull off.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
But they're still trying that shoe. I mean, if we're
looking at even the censorship from Monday, where they censor
the crowds, they censor their promos, they censor themselves, all
the toy lines and everything else like that. WWE is
acutely aware that children are still a core of their
audience because they want to build a WWE lifestyle. They

(10:15):
want kids, I believe, and this is maybe a product
of the way we became from the eighties because in
the eighties they didn't know, if you know, the cartoons
in the merch would be more than just another pet rock,
another fad, you know what I mean. They had no
clue back then, but they were gathering and obviously during
the attitude or they realized how much money they were
going to make. But even today, it feels like they

(10:38):
don't want WWE fans for the short term. Matter of fact,
I wonder if casuals. Kinds of casual fans aren't as
welcome when it comes to WWE branding because they would
rather have when you're in, you're in for life.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Well that's what also they're kind of doing with this
seventy thousand dollars ticket package that they have going on
as well. And I mentioned where you know, Vegas is
starting to have the same issues as WWE is going
to have going forward, which is that they both were

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businesses that were predicated on being something that every every man,
the kid, the mom, the dad, the small family that
could like scram some money up together and go see
the show, or buy the fucking Hulk Hogan shirt if
you will, from the catalog. Hell, even when the thing
got more popular, you could go buy the stone Cold

(11:35):
See Boston t shirt at the kmart. Like that was
always accessible in that way. Even going back to the territories,
you know what I mean, Like, if you listen to
any of those guys talk about it, the whole building
wasn't full of people who were trust fund babies. It
wasn't millionaires and your local you know, fucking you know

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rich folks that'd own all the That wasn't who was
in the crowd, and that's what Vegas was also built
on for a long time too. And now they're playing
the same game, the ww he's trying to play audience, right, yes, exactly.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
So you're going from the days of fifty dollars tickets
forty five dollars tickets where you can invite the whole
family to seventy thousand dollars cash grabs for local YouTube stars.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Right, and and if the ten rows behind them are empty,
oh well we got we got ours, right, you know.
And if need be, Yeah, if need be, we can
push a bunch of people up. And they're sitting there
going ooh ee, I won the fucking lottery. But the
reality is they still overpaid. They're only getting upgraded only
because there's so many suckers that will spend half the

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price of a fucking house twenty years ago to go
to one wrestling show or two wrestling shows.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Well, but I do want to throw this out there,
rustling Soup. I'm Anthony, he's Joe. I do want to
throw this out here, dude. Because Stephanie McMahon clearly listens
to her audience, and she updated so she had on
what's your story? She had Roman Reigns on Today. I
got a couple clips from that that interview, but there

(13:18):
was something special that she talked about with her sponsor.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
This week.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
WWE on Netflix is truly the best thing ever. But
there's one catch. Not everybody gets that. A lot of
you are still watching WWE the old school way on cable,
dealing with boring commercials while I'm enjoying uninterrupted action. Let's
fix that with today's sponsor. Surf Shark VPN just said

(13:45):
it to Canada and boom all that awesome WWE programming
commercial free go to surfshark dot com slash steph. Thanks
to serf Shark for sponsoring today's video. Now with me, Right, Yeah,
that's awes that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Stephanie McMahon's version of stealed this book exactly. Stephanie McMahon
presents the Anarchist Cookbook Wrestling Edition. Wow, that's that's kind
of awesome. But also at the same time, what is
your husband sitting there? I'm like, honey, you can't fucking

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be that obvious.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
She literally told you she's not watching WWE with commercials.
Flip it to Canada and don't watch that shit no more.
I fucking love it. I love it. She there had
to have been a trickle effect from other people that
were like, hey, you do realize you're plugging a VPN

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which people will use in order to dodge commercials, And
she's like, fuck it, let's tell him how tell how
Steve God.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
This is this is awesome. This is like when the
tobacco company he's bought up all the fucking vape stuff initially,
or like when they were when they were like, yeah,
we sell the cigarettes and the nicotine patches. It's like, wow,
that's that's quite the quite the market share you have there.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Well it's interesting too, because here, let me present this
question to you, right, so yeah, this, I assume this
works for streaming the same way it does for network
television or even radio. Whereas the reason a network purchases
a show is so that they can purchase commercials or
sell commercials in those spots during that show to get

(15:35):
those viewers to watch those ads. Now, Stephanie is basically
giving the middle finger to Netflix in an offshoot way,
because people would still have to be subscribed to Netflix.
They still it wouldn't hurt the numbers, right, because she's
not saying like fuck Netflix, go find it on XWT,
tor inside or nothing. Right, She's not she's not plugging

(15:56):
full piratesy, she's.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Not dropping these to Rush insights.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Yeah, she's only a partial pirate. She's she's got a
schooner or something, you know, and uh, and she's basically
saying to Netflix America, go fuck yourself. But she's still
It's weird because that money that that sponsorship that Netflix
gets from American commercials is why they pay WWE that

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much money to begin with.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
It's very odd. I don't know, because she's clearly pro
WWE duh. Well, and she's still pro Netflix, duh. But
she's not pro how Netflix makes money, which is kind
of funny to me.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Is this one of those situations where a company, you know,
sells tickets for whatever, be some event online where they're
making it seem like it's in high demand, but then
it's like going to get the group arn and you
can get three of them, very trick for twenty books
or whatever. That's kind of what she's doing in a
way where I don't know.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
She opened up the commercial ad by saying, why are
you watching WWE the old way? Are you gay?

Speaker 2 (17:11):
What is wrong with you? Yeah, that is I don't
know how to explain that, like I said, any other
way then somebody telling her or her just kind of
making this connection that hey, listen, there's gonna be a
lot of people that are going to drop off, right,
you know, there's a lot of people that aren't going

(17:31):
to pay. So how about we figure out a way
to get them to give us. How much is the
VPN of months five bucks.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Something like that? You get four months free with her
name steph if you put stuff on there, you know.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Yeah, yeah, sign up probably for fucking three years. Yeah,
So if you're paying that plus the Netflix, They're like,
all right, close enough, if we can, if we can
get you on board for seventeen dollars a month, that's
better than zero, right, you know, like maybe that's the
thought process. Granted, I'm not so sure.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
They were talking about sponsors also in the show too,
that they want more sponsors. I would love Wrestling Soup
to sponsor Stephanie's podcast. I'm just saying, I.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Like a Stephanie started like hockens, like zins and shit
like that.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
She's just like she just opens up the show going
outer Spoozye dis me Stefan.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yeah, she's like my guest today and Trede He's like, hell, no,
nice to meet you, Stephanie.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
I mean you need to yes, Oh my god, I
love it. I fucking love it. She didn't talk about
the other benefits, which we I mean not to repeat myself.
You get to see everything underneath Netflix as opposed to
having to get like sixteen different other networks or streaming sites.
Everything is underneath Netflix internationally, just not nationally.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
So you know, there's just this level, like I said,
with wrestling fans that I think that WWE is well
aware of, and I'm sure Stephanie is very, very, very
you know, she's very aware of the fact that the
shit gets stolen. She knows people are, you know, stealing

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pay per views in the nineties, two thousands, all the
way through. That's probably part of the reason why they
even made the network, because they're like, shit, if we
can even kit these motherfuckers for ten bucks, we'll take
it over zero, you know. But that's where that's obviously
where this is lying. Now, if they didn't also advertise

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Stephanie's podcast on RAW, I know, that's kind of crazy,
like they did. Yeah, if this was just like a
stray podcast dangling in the wings. Yeah, god knows, there's
a million billion fucking wrestling podcasts. So the idea and
that would almost be like, hey, you, you're gonna get

(20:15):
like a kind of like a nudge nudge, wink wink,
because you listen to Stephanie McMahon's podcast and she's gonna
give you the fucking I gotta give you their get
give you a clue.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Does Cody or take her advertised surf shark? Because I
watch them too, obviously not as religiously as I do
Stephanie's podcast, but they do. They plug the serf Shark.
Is the surf Shark a WWE hidden troll.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
It's just fucking with but they all know.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Getting paid in Oh yeah, LS is asking what setting
do I put my VPN? Yeah, she says Canada. I
think further north. I like doing a lot further north.
If they're well not Jesus Christ. I didn't say the
North Pole.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
Yeah, it is all the way up, all the way around,
all the way up. Yeah no, dude, I would say
probably where.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Where do you put it stay? I like uh, I
like Switzerland, Sweden, uh, Norway.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Yeah, yeah, all those countries that they are still kind
of chill. Yeah, them chill countries, chill. You know that
makes sense. Yeah, I think it's great. Good for her man,
make your money. I hope you fucking are wonderfully successful.
And they pay you a lot for.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Advertising surf shark because uh yeah, I'm using surf shark
now too. So there you go.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
See this is funny. Lightning goes well, Joe, the South
is Antarctica, like not if you go all the way.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Around, Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
If you're going all the way over over over, you
keep going north, eventually end up south and then how
it goes.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
But she had on Roman Reigns today and there was
a couple of I'm sure that was rivet d. He's
he's fucking dull. I have to be nice? Do I
have to be nice? Because well, you know what. We
had Bianca Blaire and she was a deeply entertaining interview,

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very revealing about our personal life, a lot of stuff
that we only knew on the surface to much more depth.
We had Dominic Mysterio, who was fucking hilarious and entertaining
and picking on Steph and that was great too. When,
of course he had Naomi and Big Jim with their
big reveal last week. Right, So I mean, you know Roman.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yeah, big star, big gap rights, mister charisma, mister entertain
But ah, he's a good talker.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
I think I think it was Casuals that even said
it best that he knows how to control an interview.
He he he is great for Fox and Friends.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
You know what I mean. Yeah, the people that are, oh,
look at your muscles, how do you keep such big muscles?

Speaker 4 (23:04):
And he's like, oh, you get your protein, you know,
and they all just laugh at him. Oh yeah, REGI
was still around, he'd have.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Been Yeah, he'd be fantastic for those Yes, yes, dude,
I I would hope that people at this point, even
the people that are like Big Roman Reigns fans and
they love him as a wrestler. And now he's been
around so long that for a lot of people he
is their scenea he is their rock, He is their
stone colds And I'm and I'm willing to accept that

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because we're living in a world where it's things, not
even a world that's just life. Things change and you
just got to kind of roll with it. But you're
not going to convince me that people don't know that
he is fucking blamed.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Well, so here you know, I'll let people decide for themselves.
Here is a part of the interview where Roman Rein's
dresses wrestling how to wrestle?

Speaker 2 (24:03):
Oh, here we go.

Speaker 5 (24:05):
See all you weird workers slapping your leg not see
what you're doing? Undertakers just pissed off about this? And
are you yes, they're just.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
Flapping just slapkick terrible, terrible right setting the example one show, Yeah,
one show.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Just drive bys slapping the thigh in the face. Damn
my kids, damn roasted, roasting new topics. Damn who's catching
up to twenty and fourteen?

Speaker 1 (24:37):
I say, yeah, Roman Rains is not a fan of
the slapping of thighs.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Oh my wow. I mean, hey man, what's your feeling
on going through the barricade right still? I don't like
any of that shit either. I find it fucking redundant
and stupid. But it's very funny that this is a
talking point of his, Like we're I was supposed to go,
oh damn, Roman got him. It's like, no, man, everybody's

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everybody has been saying that. Everyone that's not like a
fucking a suck ass of like aw fight full bullshit
has been making fun of the leg slappy superkick wrestlers
for a decade.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
I do have another one though, another another clip to
really give people a meat of what the interview is about.
Roman Reigns goes into depth and talks about how he
comes up with his incredible facial expressions during the show.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Oh no, and have another good point to like serve that,
you know.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
And even the looks you give, you know, and the
timing of it and the time in between of a
silent pause and how you can actually just bring the
crowd in and it's just a look, oh you know,
Like how much do you think about that in advance
or is that just a feel when you're out there?

Speaker 2 (25:58):
That used to be stuff would think about.

Speaker 6 (26:01):
But it kind of like to compare it to something
when I first started wrestling, like in the Shield, and
I would watch the film like of when we were
in the ring. I would watch every step, every single step,
like literally, like wouldn't be able to watch it back
with me because I would watch it. Yeah, I watched
like football tape and like but we didn't have like the.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
He would watch his own facial expressions like football tape.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
Well, guess what, buddy, you'd have been cutting year six
if that was the case.

Speaker 6 (26:35):
Good and good stuff. So like I'd miss the rewind
and that like a god that sorry, hold on one
more time, but I would just keep watching that.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Why does that take that step? Why did I do
that with my arm?

Speaker 6 (26:50):
I'm so like precise and meticulous on all these little
things that I saw.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Is it less or more sad that he is so
incensed by the idea of he made the wrong face
during a match?

Speaker 2 (27:05):
I mean, Adam, Adam, when you start in the film,
you don't mess with the Zohan. What is your what
was your process for getting into the zone of you
a hairdresser who's ever played such a character before?

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Right?

Speaker 2 (27:23):
I mean, we're talking about what he does like it's
a fine art. It's not. It's not. Listen, he's he's
over his shit, great looking guy. Billions and millions of
dollars in his name, he sold a lot of T shirts.

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A ten year long push is finally fucking paid off
for the guy. But I still cannot sit here and
play this game where we're acting as though this is
like a master craftsman, right, that is how But.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
I just can't imagine, like, all right, so if we're
trying to think that Roman Reigns is on the same
level as any of these other superstars and wrestlers that
came before him, is this like a class that's taught
at these schools about what kind of faces to make?
Like was George the Animals Steel teaching a class if.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
This is my angry face, well, this also goes to
show you how not natural this was for him. It
wasn't And like right from the get listen, I said
that the difference between him and bron Breaker is Roman's
timing was better when he first came in, even though
he was green as grass and he didn't really he

(28:42):
didn't have the happy feet as bad he wasn't, you know,
as wooding in the ring. I guess you could say,
But this idea still like we're pretending, like, man, you
could learn a whole lot from you learn a whole
lot from Roman. It's like, no, he's a nepo baby.
Enough enough, it's fine. Once again, over millions of dollars

(29:05):
sells T shirts, male models, women love them, kids love them,
men who probably want to make out with them love them.
But like, it's not that fucking deep.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
It's almost funnier reading the comments or looking at the
comments underneath this this clip shoe, because there's people saying
that this is why he is the OTC. He did
a lots of improvements, believe at and then they just
there's a bunch of gifts. There's a string of gifts
of their favorite Roman Reigns faces. It's fantastic, it's a

(29:38):
fantastic threat.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
I gotta I gotta say he is for all intents
and purposes, he is the ving Diesel of pro wrestling.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
He's a Mercedes Monet of w W lee. No, does
that mean he just doesn't have as many belts?

Speaker 2 (29:55):
I don't you know what, at least he's not as
big of a fucking mark as she is.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
That's the and No, you're right being cruel. I'm sorry,
I'll take that one back. I'll take that back.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
There's no I don't think there would ever have been
a time where Roman Reigns was like, I'm Roman eight
belts and they're like, where's your championships from? And he's
like Brooks Side Wrestling and Huckleberry fucking Great Lakes Region,
Like it's not some level of bullshit morckery of that right,
but yeah, it's it's just funny to me. Take take

(30:29):
your money, do your interviews, smile, do your Vin Diesel shit.
But I don't want to hear this from him.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Somebody had to teach him this though, Joe. See, I
don't think that he just came up with this on
his own. Somebody must have went to him early in
his career and said, you need to work on your facials.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Right, well, yeah, of course, because he's he looks like
he's a dull guy. This is him right now, right now.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Said wasn't Dusty fifty shades as it was a Paul Hayman.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
He does credit Paul Hayman with a little bit in
this interview though, too. He doesn't because.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Paul Haman was probably looking at him going, yeah, he
looks like a male model. Yeah, the company loves him
and he's a big guy. But my god, he's fucking stale.
He's a fucking rice cake. He's blamed as shit. He
knew that there's no way, there is no way anybody
that wasn't completely just on the train of like, we

(31:30):
can sell this guy because of his looks and his athleticism,
and we got our mindset on him. Wasn't aware of
the fact that he was a dull guy, right, He's
a dull guy who could barely talk. And by the way,
like you were even talking about the promo he did
on Monday, it's still not that great. Oh he's promost

(31:51):
still not good. It's still not like put his shit
in it, put his shit against even La Knight or
Punk or fucking dare I even say Gunter who English
is not even his first language, and he's still a
better promo than him. It's a problem, but it's clearly
not a problem because he makes the millions of dollars

(32:12):
and you sound like an asshole like I do right
now by giving him a hard time but pretanging.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
Still Cameron, we're gonna say, he's making, like you said,
millions of dollars. It's just it's weird that he would
think about his facials like something he needs to learn.
In my head, I imagine Roman Reigns is doing literally
what he says he's doing. He's recording all of his promos,
his segments, his backstage stuff, and he's looking at his

(32:42):
faces and going that was a good one. That was
a good whoa, whoa.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
I felt that.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Yeah, Oh that you could see how angry I am. Look,
my face is frownie.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Do you remember the scene and Terminator too, where fucking
John Connor is trying to teach the terminator.

Speaker 7 (33:01):
I have fakes for expressions, I know now while you cry,
but that is something I will never do. I know
why you move your mouth in a way that looks
like I'm invested as a performer, but that is something

(33:21):
I will never do.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Yeah, it's once again. It's fine. You're very very successful.
You were put in a position to be very very successful.
You're a NEPO baby in the company, and now it's
finally worked and we can still talk about, Hey, you're

(33:43):
going to be in the movie. Hey you're the fucking
tribal chief, all that other stuff. But the revisionist history,
I don't want to hear it.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
Right, I was there, I was there.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
I'm not going to be fucking gas lit by a
hunky aquaman guy. I'm just not. I'm not going to
do that. I'm way too Middle Asian, just straight enough
that i don't need to be fucking gas lit by
this chick lit toothed hunk. All right, no more, please, Yes,
unless there's a good one unless you got a real

(34:15):
Do you got another really good quote from from the tribal?

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Yeah, I can, Leader king Man, there might be one more.
Let's see we got uh uh No, they're all pretty bad, Joe, Oh,
here we go. Here's a good one. Roland explains why
he doesn't like using cheap shots in his promos for reactions.

Speaker 6 (34:36):
And I just even to this day, Paul, you know,
he would come up with all kinds of stuff when
we were in the middle of the title reign, and
I'd reject a lot of like or I make it
my own, right, I don't like low hanging fruit.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
Okay, maybe that's what it was.

Speaker 6 (34:54):
That well, yeah, that's from a promos h standpoint, a
lot of those cheaper digs.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
I feel a little more sophisticated than that.

Speaker 6 (35:04):
I feel like my communication can be a little more compellectual.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
I don't know. I'm from Georgia tech prom other fucker.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
Promos are on arts. They're a conversation piece among the elite.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
By the way, I guess I have to clarify this
because this joke can confuse people. And I said straight enough,
It's like, listen, I'm fucking vagina, but I'm not chopping
down trees or nothing.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
But I'll go I'll want you settle down there, brock
lesnar Jesus Christ, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Exactly, I'm not. You know, I'm not ripping, you know,
running into the woods and decapitating elk with my bare hands.
It's not it's not where I'm at, which, by the way,
that could also be that whole thing, Like it's like
I'm in the woods killing animals. I always thought that
there's some part of that where it might be you
just trying to kill your gay thoughts. Whatever. If I

(35:54):
killed this beautiful animal, I won't want to kiss a beautiful.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Man sucking dick looked like poison. I just.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
I need to be in the woods alone with my thoughts,
my thoughts of definitely not dude's sweaty forearms. Now, Dude,
I him being like I'm I like to be like
a little more cerebral. Yeah, oh yeah, I think I'm

(36:25):
like a I'm like a deep thinker, rubbin Rice. My
promos are thinking he is Jake Roberts, what mon Monday.
Let's see if I can paraphrase his promo. Y'all y'all
think you're y'all gonna get over on the tribal chief

(36:49):
like that, I'm.

Speaker 8 (36:50):
Gonna be given to you, bring them, bring my shoes
down here, give them back to me and acknowledge me,
and I won't think about what and dead ass like?

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Wait is that me? Or am I quoting the writings
of I don't know Robert Frost?

Speaker 1 (37:07):
Oh yeah, same thing?

Speaker 2 (37:09):
Is that Roman Reigns Or is that Jesus Christ? I
don't know?

Speaker 6 (37:14):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (37:15):
I mean now his promos Stephen King or m Night Shyamalan,
you know, some of the greatest minds of our times.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
He thinks his promos are high tier, he thinks his
facials are high tier. And he has absolutely no room
for thigh slaps none. It's Roman Reigns, the every wrestlers.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
I'm a thinking man. Sorry.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Yeah, he's Nick Bockwinkle, Thank you, Ted. That's what he
thinks he is. He thinks he's fucking Nick. But or
vern Ganya. He's the ver Gania of WWE.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
I don't I don't like to take those cheap shots,
you know what I mean. I'm not like a I'm
not like the kind of guy go low and you know,
insult you. But what I am, what I am is
the kind of guy to try to like go into
my emotional support homie g dog accent, because I feel

(38:19):
uncomfortable and that makes me appear like I'm, you know,
really killing it.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Seet Pipes kind of threw it out there. I think
he's right. He says Roman Rains is a fucking Thesbian.
But I'm thinking maybe Roman Rains thinks he's landy popo.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Oh. I was gonna say, I don't even know if
if you ask. I think if you ask Roman Rain
if he was a Thespian, he'd be like, yo, tricks
are focing. Yeah, fucking I'm straight enough, That's what he'd say.
God fucking give me a break. I can't. I fucking
cannot manage listening to this conversation with this guy, like

(38:58):
he's some sort of.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Like Stephanie's podcast. That's all I want to say. I
think it's a very good podcast. You know, it's uh,
it's a lot, a lot to learn.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
Can somebody real real quick? I mean, like, you know,
please guys, stay stay focused, stay locked in on the show,
but just do do me a solid for anybody throughout
the course of the show. Find some real deep thoughts
from Roman Reigns promosh find them and you know, even
they're transcribed, and give us real ones. Don't give us

(39:31):
bullshit ones, but just please put them. Put them in
the chat so we can share some of his amazing
deep quotes.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
And now raise thoughts with Joey numbers with Roman reigns.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Oh oh, oh, you're almost you're talking. I'm your trouble truth.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
See, you've already blown it because he had to address
the city that he in at least three times by now.

Speaker 9 (40:02):
Hey Florida, Hey, Florida, can you believe this guy? Hey hey,
hey Texas. You you here what this chump said? Uh
shoots an eadie. Can you believe with this guy? He
was like, he doesn't realize he's talking to Joe Burrow

(40:26):
right now. Dog wow, Romans, slow down. I can't keep
up man.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Yeah heez, you're you're weighing me down with your fucking brilliance.
Take your money, take your NAPO fucking job. Shut the
fuck up. Be glad, be glad. He's ad. He got
to be. He got to sit front seat being a
fucking bus rider. Thank you for that one. Uh, thank

(40:52):
you for that one, Barkley, Thank you for that fucking saying,
because it doesn't fit more perfectly than this motherfucker's existence.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
So let's flip it over. Speaking of Wolf, obviously, more's
come out with the Rajah Jackson stuff. Mark Henry doubled down.
He went on AM radio the other day he clarified
some of his thoughts. Well, he definitely doubled down. So
he was on the was it call?

Speaker 2 (41:21):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
I'm trying to remember that AM thirteen hundred the zone.
There we go, he said. I look on social media
and people are tearing me down for my take, calling
me a racist. Well, first off, it's impossible for me
to be a racist because I would have to have
power over someone and in a bigoted way. I'm not
a bigot, and I don't have the power over people. Now,
there are people that work for me, there are people

(41:43):
that I work with. I don't ever have to defend
myself about being a racist. That people that know me,
who know me as I am, as a man and
as a person. It's a lot of ignorant people that
sit back behind their computers and they feel like it's
okay to verbally bash people. What it is is bullying.
It feels just like the situation of Rajah going to
wrestling to try to be a wrestler and not being

(42:05):
completely informed on what wrestling is. You got guys that
are veterans or so called veterans, that could have very
easily smartened him up, which is another wrestling term where
you say, I'm going to tell you everything there is
to do. I'm going to tell you what I'm going
to do, so you'll be prepared. Okay, all right, everybody's

(42:26):
on the same page. And that didn't happen. You got
these veteran guys drinking alcohol before the show and then
they come out there and hit one of the kids
upside the head with a beer can. He's supposed to
understand and process all of this information. No, it's not
going to.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Ten Mark, He's not ten. I'm not a baby. Why
is he talking about this kid like a kid? Man?
I say kid because that's how everybody.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
I think he even calls him kid at some point,
because I mean, twenty five. It's just a what do
they call it? It's just like a term. It's a term,
that's all it is.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Well, also in this area specifically, will like call our
moms and dads kids, Oh kid, I love you kid,
like that's what we do here. So I get that,
but like, no, once again, this is a twenty five
year old.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Right, yes, of course, no, it's not going to happen.
And then you got the other guys inciting the riot.
He goes out there and lays into this guy and
beats him like he stole something. And I do not
condone that. I love people. God put me on the
start to be a helper and a watcher, and if
you read the Bible, you understand who the watchers are,
and I'm one of them. I just want to go
on record as saying I'm making zero apologies for what

(43:36):
I said. I meant every word, every single word I meant.
You have to be responsible on both sides. The WWE
is where they are because they do great business because
they smarten everybody up. And when people go off script,
they get fired, they get suspended, they get sent away.
Until you know better, you can't be on our program.
And I don't work for them. I just respect the business.
So all the fans out there that have these racist

(43:57):
tendencies and all this vitriol for me, you can't hurt
me on bulletproof from the World Starspan blah blah blah,
So this also goes on to h by Wait wait,
you can't hurt him.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
But he said he was bullied earlier. Did you mentioned it.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
That I he was just saying that is bullying. I
don't think he was saying the bullying was hurt.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
Oh okay, so bully Mark Henry. Come on, dude, I
love Mark Henry, but this is.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
We love them absolutely. But yeah, no, I agree. I
even had to clarify what I was saying on YouTube
earlier today. Somebody was coming at me like why is
he Why is the one guy defending him? And It's like,
I'm not defending him, I'm just saying, is he an idiot?
Is he a waterhead? Like it's the forty nine theory, right,
So there's a stupid fucking show that I saw once

(44:41):
upon a time that they caught fifty pedophiles and they
used like rowblocks or like one of these video games
to do it, and forty nine of them turned out
to be actual gross pedophiles going after kids, and number
fifty turned out to be a slow guy in his thirties,
like really slow, and thought he was one of the kids,

(45:02):
and they had to process them all the same, even
though clearly number fifty was not of the same intent.
Do you know what I'm saying. And I'm not saying
that this is the example of Rajah, but I am saying,
if the guy is fucking touched in the head, then
I'm not saying that we make concessions for the guy.
You have to process him the same. But it's not

(45:25):
an excuse. But there, let's not assume that he knows
everything about wrestling right off the bat. That was what
I was trying to say, you know.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
Anyway, Yeah, and also in that sense, this is what
makes this so fucking funny to me. It was a
really fucked up, shitty thing to do.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Oh yeah, just say that.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
I mean, and by the way, I completely get, at
least on this level, where Mark Henry is coming from.
And also like there was a thing with Rampage why
he's like I'm getting, you know, messages that are racist
and all the shit.

Speaker 8 (45:57):
And the only way.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
That I could kind of at least expressed this in
my you know, perception of it, is uh, yes, this
video is definitely bait for anybody who's already fucking racist.
We know that, like you see this, because what it
is in their mind is confirming their own bias.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
It is huge. I heard Jim Cordon talking about it
earlier with Brian last but it's like it's even traveling
the Twitch streams, like random YouTubers are talking about this
that never talk about wrestling. This is this has gotten big. Well,
it's a it's a horror.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
He almost beats someone to fucking death.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
Right, Oh yeah, no, for sure. Yeah, but I'm saying, well,
it gets even bigger too because w W cut ties
with all the LFG or not the LG, but all
the kids that were part of the program, the nil
Yeah they i D which canceled, which I gotta say
this too, which is WW program.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
Sorry, yeah, the w W i D thing right, him
letting that happen, and by him, I think I would
have to only refer to this as Rakishi because supposedly
this is his fucking Horse and Pony Hut, which, by
the way, I love Rakishi's on on fucking podcast weekly
lecturing at people. But his name is attached to a
show where bullshit like this is happening, Biting Bravo.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
Honestly, somebody brought that up earlier. I think he can't legally.
I know a lot of people are like, why isn't
this guy arrested yet? I guarantee that there's been reports filed.
This is going There's no way this doesn't go to
fucking court.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
Joe, complete strangers are probably calling the police to this.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
I wouldn't die it, That's what I'm saying. It's like
he can't if that's the case, where Kishi right now
is so lawyered up he can't even look outside, I.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Know, and honestly he should. And this is also what
kind of fucking pisses me off. And it's because of
the fact that right now, for the first time, probably
since I don't know, maybe like the late nineties, WWE
is even having the little hint just the littlest crumbs

(48:03):
are being given to independent wrestling and their promoters, the
littlest crumbs, thelest littlest bits. And Cornett mentioned it actually
funny enough, like when you said that on his show today,
where yes, guys that were on television used to be
able to go and work shows with reputable fucking promoters.
That wasn't it used to happen, believe it or not,

(48:25):
even during the Attitude era. Sure, how do I know
that happened because it happened in my fucking high school
because there was a show in my high school when
I was a young guy with WWE talent. Because in
the Northeast and in the metro Boston area, there were
promoters that the office trusted and they let guys show
up and have matches. So that did happen once again

(48:48):
twenty five almost thirty years ago. And now WWE's cracked
that door just a little bit and said to these indies,
all right, we're gonna trust you, We're gonna let you.
You know, we like this guy, we let this girl.
We think this person has potential. We're gonna just give
We're gonna put a fucking stamp on them. It's going
to have our name on it. And if you want
to put it on posters, fantastic, If you want to

(49:10):
put it on your website, great. You want to draw
people in with your wrestling school, use our ship. And
this motherfucker could screw that over for all of these
guys and all these girls, all these kids that could
have a chance just by having that little bit of
association with you.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
Yeah, you think that those kids will still have the
Rakishi stink on them when they leave that school.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
No, no, no, not those kids. I'm talking all the
other ones mission. I'm talking about the whole other promotion.
If I'm WWE and I'm looking at this ID program
and this continues to range shit on me, I might
say screw it. I might just wash my hands of
the whole thing. Tell all these kids, yeah, you know,
we got your number. We'll call you if we feel

(49:52):
we try. Don't put our don't put our name on things.
Don't attach us to it, because how do we know
that the next time that we, you know, sign up
for one of these companies aret you know, get in
bed with them and think we can trust them, the
next thing they're going to do is not have one
where somebody does actually die.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
Let me ask you this too, because I saw this
conspiracy theory being thrown out. Do you think there is
a potential that this was done on purpose, that they
godd well well necessarily that boy like I heard that
with Brian last was saying, was this guy maybe not
liked in the back And that was an interesting one too,
It was the first time I heard that. But no,
the whole thing being done and then TMZ getting a

(50:34):
hold of it, and obviously everybody else getting a hold
of it and considering it's you know, Rajah Jackson, son
of a fucking Jesus, why my blanking out his name?
Uh Page Jackson. Do you think that this was done
with some kind of a publicity stunt and maybe gone wrong.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
Well, I would say if if the intent of this
was to get publicity, like you said, it went wrong,
and they certainly got it.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
Right, But I mean, like, wow, maybe the plan wasn't
for him to hit him twenty two times in the
face as hard as he was, Like, I don't know.
Once again, this was just thrown out on social media,
and I was like, well, that's that's an interesting idea
that they would try to do this. But now they've
lost their attachment with w W they've been branded is
it's just fucking awful people and awful.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Scum dirt show, full of shit people. Yeah. I mean,
the only person that's coming out of this thing looking
like half a human being is the is.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
The poor guy that got fucking nailed.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Yeah, well no, but also the kid that looks like.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
Oh the rough I'm kid actual, the dude that.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
Looks like the fucking vance archer, the one that broke
up the fight, right, he's one of the only people
that probably the only one that comes out of this
looking like a decent human being, because he's the only
one that was like, I didn't want this to happen.
I made sure I stopped it, and this kid, all
of these things are ignored, and for Mark Henry to

(52:05):
have this opinion of it, it's like, dude, of course
you're going to take a bath online. He turned around
the Rajah Kid and started trying to hit the kid
that's breaking up the fight, and he's like, yeah, dude,
if I if he got the double leg on me,
he probably would have started pounding me in the face.
It's like, okay, so now he's ready to just start
trying to fucking kill two people.

Speaker 10 (52:27):
And what are you going to say then, Mark, Oh, well,
I mean, what are you gonna do? Not beat the
guy who's trying to stop a fight to death? Like
it's idiotic. It's really idiotic. And once again you're placing
wrestlers as some of the smartest people in the world
and they're not. That's why I'm saying maybe the conspiracy

(52:47):
theory has weight to it because maybe they thought I
don't know, I just think's idiocracy. Right, I just go
by idiocracy rules, you know.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
Oh my balls, Well we should make it a TV show, Like, yeah,
I don't.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
Know, I know what you're saying. You're like, I we
have to kind of think what you know, what would.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
These are not smart people that are getting into wrestling.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Okay, I would have to agree on uh on some
level for sure. But there is something still to the
point of, like I said with with Rakishi, who is
you know, if I remember correctly, he like sits in
a fucking throne when he does his podcast, which is humiliated.

(53:34):
This is his show, mister sitting in a throne and
he's running in what a fucking a used car dealership
bay or something that like, and there's a bunch of
goofs out back drinking and they're attached to w WE.
You're gonna blow if this whole id program, if this

(53:55):
gets real bad, even worse than it is right now,
it goes to court and people pick up that it
was attached to WWE or whatever, that could dissolve this
whole program. So for the fact that this fat cocksucker
sits in his throne and goes he doesn't know any better,
and then they still give him give him all of this,
pushes sons to the fucking moon, and then he makes

(54:19):
them look like that. I mean, it's thank god, thank
god these USO brothers have been able to prove themselves
to this level, because if they didn't, the father would
be ruining their life and career actively through his own
stupidity and stupid fucking fat mouth.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
Do you think that's another reason why he's keeping quiet too,
because of his attachment to his boys. Just wants to.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
Well, why if I was any of these these If
I was either of these two, I'd be calling my
dad saying, hey, thanks for that. I really appreciate thanks Dad.
And I'm sure somebody, oh, you don't talk down to
your father, Well, your dips. Your father just made this
huge shit storm because he's like, I'm running a promotion

(55:06):
under my name. Where are you You're down at the
fucking where are you at the Red Lobster? Right, it's
your company, Go to your show, watch over this shit.
Don't let this clown bullshit happen. Yeah, I don't know
it really, It really just pisses me.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
Fifty fifty shades of Josh and the chat says, would
you know why Rajah hasn't been arrested yet. No, honestly,
don't building a case. They might be building a Yeah,
maybe there's other things too. Yeah, we don't. We don't know.
And I agree with everybody else's settlement. Why is he
not at least incarcerated at this point? Obviously he wouldn't

(55:42):
have gone to court and all that already. But why
wasn't he picked up? And then some people are saying
it's because daddy's money. We got another NEPO baby situation.
Maybe I don't know. I would have figured that if
he was just any other guy walking the streets of Chicago,
he would have been picked up by now a fucking lutely.
So this whole thing is very odd. It's odd from

(56:04):
the ground up. Nine oh five says Solo is sweating
for his job at the moment. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
Maybe, No, I think the I think the boys are
at the boys well, I mean they are his boys,
the kids, and at least in the grand scheme of things,
I guess you could say, uh, they're well seated. Nobody's
going to look at them and be like, oh, it's
because your your dad's a fucking idiot, and your dad's
gonna screw us over, but they should be thankful that

(56:32):
that's not their perspective on it. The WWE has changed
and grown, but still, don't let TKO find out. No,
don't let TKO find out because I'm not so sure
t KO fully understands this idea of like a protected
Samoan class within the wrestling world. They're just going to see,
you're getting us a ton of bad press and this

(56:55):
is the bullshit we're attaching our name and our company
to big problem.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
Psycho Stu has a go fund me online. He's already
got one hundred and eighty five thousand as of this broadcast.
He's looking for two hundred k, and it looks like
he's gonna get it. You know, even mister I'm looking
at mister Beast, donate a ten thousand, like there's a
lot of random people that are really promoting this that
go fund me and really just taken back as to

(57:22):
how visceral and evil this whole situation is, so.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
I I really feel like it's it's an important thing
though to point out, like with the whole thing with
Mark Henry and and by the way, I've seen the
clip go up of us talking about it and of
course there's people writing fucking ignorant coded shit.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
Well I've seen a few. Yeah, it's like, yeah, we
know why Mark Henry's defending. Why go ahead and say it, dude, Yeah, yeah,
God say it. Yeah, take taking nuts out and say ye,
let YouTube fucking be the judge.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
Yeah no why uh yeah no, I really feel like
you know well, and behold, I am in no place
to try to explain racism to black guys. But I
see this as once again, if you're somebody who's already
biased and racist, you see this clip, and this is

(58:20):
fucking this is red meat. This is red meat. I
can't believe your Fox News and your fucking Charlie Kirk
and all these guys in fucking Ben Shapiro if they
haven't already got it on there, Benny, all those guys.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
I'm sure, I'm sure beloved Anthony Kumill drop something by tonight, Anthony.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
Right, yeah, Kubia, I'm sure he'll uh, he'll approach that
with a lot of sensitivity.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
I mean, that's what you would expect from a Tunisian
knife fighter.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
So yes, yeah, well that's but that's it. I completely
understand because this is red meat to racist for sure,
for fucking short. But what I think you also have
to understand is that if people are racists, it doesn't
matter if it's a video of a black guy punching
somebody or saving puppies in a hurricane, they're gonna still
be racist and shitty and awful towards them.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
Yeah, I don't think it's a thing you can do
with race. This had to do with the guy who
is clearly has mental issues. Anger issues, Yeah, I mean issues,
just fucking issues. Figure it out. This guy needs mental help.
That's what I really will say, like more than anything.
And I know it sounds corny to say that, but

(59:34):
this guy needs a fucking hug, somebody to talk to
him and fucking do some time. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
And and this sad thing is mish. There's still a
chance that he could just completely walk away from this
and learn nothing and learn nothing, and money could buy
him out of this again. And it's just I don't
know I heard. I don't remember who it was that
said this quote. It was some random comic that's from
this area where he said, yes, sure we're in late

(01:00:04):
stage capitalism, but we're also in late stage nepotism, where
we're getting to the point where there's people that money
have been handed down to them for so long that
they're not smart, they're not creative, they have no new ideas,
and they don't know how to act like adults. So
even the people that now were like, oh, look they're
successful and they got money and they're from all this,

(01:00:26):
they're giant babies. They're dumb dumbs. They're like two year
old sucking on their thought. Tony Khan, they're just their children. Well, yeah,
that's what he is, speaking of nepo babies. Jkgar said
why former WWE and AW star Jkgar from Wrestling Inc.
Finds a way to say fuck Tony Khan every single day. Hagar,

(01:00:52):
who previously accused of Tony Khan of being a kamie
a pink o, said in a recent appearance on Insight
that con offered him just an eighteen month deal where
his first contract was coming to an end. He had
choice words for Tony and stated that he is unprofessional.

(01:01:12):
Quote the second Blood and Guts we did in Vegas
and it was against Daniel, Brian and Czarro in those
pay per views, and then Sammy jumped up off the cage.
My contract, my first contract with AW was up, and
after that the negotiations process was very one way. I
could tell that, well, anyways, I always find a way

(01:01:34):
to say this every day, so I think that everyone
should too. Fuck Tony Kahan, I could tell that he
didn't want me there. He offered me like a year
and a half on the shelf. I was like, bro,
I just did Stadium Stampede twice, Like, I don't act
like Stadium Stampede didn't put up AW on the map.
I was in the debut episode. I was the big spoiler,

(01:01:56):
and you offered me eighteen months after all of that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
So that was that. And I have a couple I
have a clip here from Chris Van Vliet asking how
Jake Hagar feels about the wrestling business.

Speaker 6 (01:02:10):
You feel like you there was a moment where you
stopped loving wrestling absolutely absolutely.

Speaker 11 (01:02:14):
I'm very jaded from my exit ATAW, Like I'm very
proud of the stuff I did there, but like at
the same time, I find myself questioning right now, I
wish I would have just stayed in MMA at some point,
Like Inner Circle was one of my favorite, like favorite

(01:02:35):
things to do in pro wrestling. I love those guys.
Jas Daddy Magic. I mean, I just really loved working
with Chris. I think he's he's like he's number one
on my Mount Rushmore, Chris Jericho, because he can just
constantly reinvent himself and he can not only do that,
but he can see what he has around him, and
he knows how to elevate us and like to well, he.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
Goes down with other people. But I see a couple
of comments already in the chat of people saying that, well,
j Hagar thinks he's a big star. That's hilarious. But
here's the thing though, and here's where you have to
give him credit. Jake Hagar did as Jack Swagger have pull.
They could have done something with the We the People gimmick.

(01:03:16):
But even Deanna Parrazzo later on she did an interview
with Page and her husband or boyfriend, and uh, they
talked about how aw kind of mishandled the gimmick, didn't
understand the futurosa and really, to hammer the point home,
Aw and Tony Kahan didn't even know how to how
to book William Regal.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
Well, yeah, we know that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
That's kind of my point is that, and I understand
j Hagar is not on the same level as William
Regal Regal, but he had name value. There was enough
there that they could have made him more than pink
purple hat guy.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
There was everybody was. Everybody's a goof in that company.
Everybody's a goof That's one of those things where like
if we want to, they don't have to even be
like I know they don't, but they but they are
adapted to.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
The goof Sorry, you're young bucks. The goofs are are
the silly Osprey types and shit like that, and the
hangman pages. Those guys end up being goofs. MJF is
kind of a goof right, But there were people that most.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
Of their bigger stars, they're all goofs.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
The company is full of goofballs. I understand that, but
it wasn't always that way. And even back when Jack
or Jack Swagger J Hagar was in the company, they
didn't have to treat him that way. Remember when Wardlow
was a potential fucking killer for the future, they didn't
have to make him look silly and stupid. This is
the problem with AW as a whole. They have Dion

(01:04:55):
Praso like her or dislike her. She was a big
deal in TNA. She absolutely we had a following. She
was a push, she had a strong character. What do
they do They fumble it. They totally fumble it and
put her on the back burner when she gets into AW.
They don't know how to use momentum at all. And
I think that's a big problem with the show.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
Well it's been that for half a dozen years now.
I mean the show, it's it's consistently been bad regardless
of what you know. Other people in podcasts will tell
you where the uh you talk the wax poetic about
the first couple of years of AAW like it was
a masterclass in fucking writing and pro wrestling and booking.

(01:05:38):
It wasn't. It was just new, right, It wasn't better.
It was just new and different to you. So you
thought it was better. That happens a lot, and that's okay,
there's nothing wrong with that. But it was never this
like masterfully booked genius wrestling show with what I guess
like Roman, high level thinking, right, big dog. But it

(01:06:01):
was never there. And I think that the reason why
people are gonna fucking go at Hagar for this is
because this is a dude who truly, with the exception
of what three to six months if that with Dutch,
Mantel has had just lucky to be there and forever.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
But he said that too, because he openly said that
in that conversation. He's like, dude, I should have stayed
in MMA. He might have had a better career. So
it's not as if the guy isn't self aware. He
realizes that his run in AW was shit. He enjoyed
his time with the guys there, and that's a personal
level whatever. But he even opens up that question with man,

(01:06:42):
I should have fucking stayed in MMA.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Huh, Chris, probably probably, But I feel like it's I
feel like it's almost generous to the guy to say
he fucking sucked. That's almost too kind to say he
fucking sucked.

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
I don't know if I put that all on him.
I don't know if I put it all on him.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
As a wrestler, as a promo, as a performer. He
fucking sucked, and he was in WWE and AAW for
a long time, so yeah, maybe he should have been
in MMA getting punched in the fucking face because he
was a terrible fucking wrestler.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
He talks about the way that AAW changed, though too, Joe.
In the interview, he talks about I think everything changed
in AW after Cody Rhodes left because he was involved
with it, and after that it just kind of became
a free for all. The young Bucks and Kenny still
had big says in what they were doing. Chris obviously

(01:07:43):
still had a big say in what he was doing.
But even Chris, he would tell me that Tony would
not respond to his messages for like two weeks. It
became to a point where either AW was important or
it's not. It just seems like it was not to
him because they stopped doing production meetings, they stopped doing
anything to make the show timely. We would be waiting

(01:08:05):
around till like five pm just to find out what
we were doing that day. I know what you're saying,
Jake Hagar to you and to a lot of people,
did not have the tools or believable tools to be
a big star, to be a success in that business. However,
it doesn't help when the guy who's running the whole

(01:08:26):
thing doesn't even show up to his own meetings, doesn't
respond to workers talking to him. We heard the same
thing with Lou Fisto. We heard the same thing from
other people getting released, Tony Kahan gets afraid of his
own shadow and ducks and hides, and when people direly
need a boss to lay shit out, he's nowhere to

(01:08:47):
be found.

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
Well, I mean he's also to a level, Hagar here
is just further confirming things that anybody who's been honest
with themselves has known. For you. That's it, Like he's
just being like, yes, all of the things that you've
heard from people on the internet for years are true.
It's like, yes, we know, Jake, we assume that to

(01:09:10):
be the case.

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
Oh dude, there's still people online spinning the AW narrative.
What was it, Dax the other day? I thought you
even threw something like, yeah, Dax is still like this
is the greatest company in the world. Tony Kahn is
my angel.

Speaker 12 (01:09:23):
Like you can't sit there and pretend that there aren't
these sickos that are still out there within the company
and without that shoot down any type of rebuttal against
TK or the company, let alone Dave Jesus Dax.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
It's he literally is unsettling in his weird over love
just in the way that people like it's weird that
people hate AW so much. I'm like, well, no, they're
just offering multiple instances as to why the company sucks
and they don't like it. And now as years have

(01:10:04):
gone by, more like this just keeps going. It's like
every three months we're getting another Jake Hagar type interview
where's just like Tony doesn't know what he's doing. Check, Yeah,
we know that Tony didn't respond to anybody's text. Yes,
check we know that this company is being ran by
an epple baby who has no clue. Yes, check we
know that. And that's going on. Meanwhile, Dax is on

(01:10:28):
the tax is on the fucking you know, Twitter or wherever,
and he's just like, don't anybody ever say a band's
like about Tony Connever. This is the greatest thing that
has ever happened to me in my life. It's the
most amazing wrestler in prochrium that has ever occurred. And
it's dude, I get it. He's a middle aged man.
He's seemingly only ever cared about wrestling. The last time

(01:10:51):
that I heard about him outside of the context and
the bullshit was on the internet was he was backstage
sobbing at a BTW show because fucking Brett Hart was
managing them, and I'm sure Brett was probably looking at
him like, look at this fucking Mark, But like, that's
the last thing that I've heard about this guy, and yes,
this is his whole world, this is his life. Wrestling

(01:11:13):
has provided some sort of meaning to him that clearly
not having another career, and I mean it should be
more so from you know, his family than it should
be from this wrestling bullshit. But he clearly can't separate
himself from this, which is where you end up in
this sad fucking situation where you have somebody where they

(01:11:33):
have to keep pretending that the Emperor has clothes on
he got it, Like, I don't know, man, there's a
part of me where I hope, almost hope that Dax
is in on this and he's like this, of course,
I hope that's what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
The ones that are so die hard, I would not
be surprised if they're shareholders of the company somehow, or
if they have some kind of equity that goes beyond
just being hired by AW. It feels like they have
something personal to lose. And that's honestly, if you're a boss,

(01:12:09):
the best thing you can do is give someone a
piece of the company to guarantee their loyalty, because if
the company does well, then they do well. Do you
know what I mean, Dude. When I used to work
at Radio Shack back in the day, way way back
in the day, back when it wasn't completely worthless, they
would give people shares. They would give people stocks and shares.

(01:12:32):
And the reason they did that was because they didn't
want to just give you a raise. They didn't want
to give you a cool.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
Radio Shack hat or a scarf.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
They wanted to give you something that now you're invested
in the company. If you do well, then the company
does well, and then you do even better down the road.

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
And that's like stock options. Well, I'm a part. I
own a little bit of this pie, right Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
I mean they all ended up it's fucking worthless. But
you know, at the time, it was motivating. Seriously, at
the time, a young twenty year old Anthony Thomas was
very fucking motivated by the idea that the company wanted
to give him a piece of itself. So when people
like Dax and Rick Achet and some of these weird

(01:13:18):
guys go out of their way and girls like well
Mercedes just making straight bank, whatever. But when these people
go out of their way to defend aw even when
it's public that they're wrong, you have to think, are
they just doing this to make Tony happy? Or is
there some reason, some other reason that they're willing to

(01:13:39):
put their own reputation on the line to defend a lie.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
I mean, I hope that they're lying. You know, like
sometimes you just see shit happen or people talk in
a certain sort of way and you're like, man, I like,
for example, like Mark Henry in this situation, I hope
Mark Henry didn't follow up on any of this or
see any of the videos. Are really understand it or
maybe he's just bullshitting. I almost hope he is. To

(01:14:04):
just create some sort of content it buzz and you know,
maybe people will tune in more to bust it open
or whatever. I'm because it's so fucking ridiculous that you're like, Okay,
maybe you're maybe you're working us, maybe you're once again
you're making content because it's so so absurd. Yeah, And
I don't know if you and I ever talked about this,

(01:14:26):
but the idea that Dak or Dak Daks was wearing
a fucking T shirt with Jay Deanna to try to
make fun of him. Yeah, could could you be a
fucking bigger loser? What a fucking loser. You're wearing a
fucking mocking a podcaster's T shirt as a guy that's

(01:14:47):
on wrestling television, like on a Mintal television weekly. Jesus Christ,
what a fucking dork that's like that is ridiculous on
a level to wear picture Like, Okay, when Jalen Brown, Okay,
when the Celtics won their title, there was a whole

(01:15:08):
story going around where Steven A. Smith was saying, uh,
you know Jalen Brown, people don't want to promote with him.
He's not gonna make money whatever, And so Jalen Brown
had a shirt on that said state your sources, okay
and even that for him to wear that at the
parade for winning the NBA Championship, it was like, that's
a little fucking petty. It's so ridiculous. And granted, Stephen A.

(01:15:31):
Smith is like the biggest fucking commentator around, huge, huge,
fucking ESPN you know, talks. He makes more money to
talk about some of these sports and the people that
play it. But you're gonna do that, You're gonna wear
a shirt to try to make fun of fucking are
YouTuber as a middle.

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
Aged Well, let's be honest. Let's look at the audience
that they have on TV every week. So yeah, maybe
that's about right. JD's JD. He gets more views than
aw does I know. I know you're you're saying you're
looking at JD as being small time, But let's take
a look at the numbers week by week? Who gets more?

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
I mean, is he he's Steven A Smith compared to what, yeah,
what they do on Saturday night.

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
Yeah, seriously, if you compare Dynamite's ratings to j D's
shows and his clips for the week, who has more?

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
That's rough man, that's rough And in a way, it's
almost the same thing as you know, like Brendan Schwab
or whatever his name is, that people have just dunked
on for fucking ever, it's the same way that the
clips making fun of him get more views to his show.
Of course, he's like there's another epitholt of the fight

(01:16:47):
and the curred and it's like, you know, eleven thousand
views on it or whatever. And then there's one of
these podcast channels that make fun of them, and they
have seventy five, right, But isn't it shouldn't they be
wake up call to some extent?

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
Well, you think, but that self awareness thing is something
that they're not very good at, Joe.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
I'm clearly not. I mean, once again, what a fucking loser.
I mean, you're a fucking grade A showed to be
a middle aged man as a fucking performer. You're married,
you have a child, and you're wearing a shirt being
like there's podcaster made for she doesn't know nothing about

(01:17:32):
refer Yeah, he's not supposed to know as much as you,
you dumb fuck you should he know what? And the
sad thing is he may know as much as you
now because you guys are such mark fucking losers in
the business.

Speaker 1 (01:17:45):
It's speaking of speaking of Seth Robins. Uh, he's landed
a role, So Deadline is reporting that Seth, current Heavyweights
Champion of w W, is Joe the NFL network's Good
Morning Football. Oh, he's only a guest host. I thought

(01:18:06):
it was a permanent position.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
I think he should do it. I think he should
get every week. Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
Think so too. But for the twenty twenty five twenty
twenty sixth season, I guess he's gonna appear alongside Coast
James A. Rattle, Kyle Brandt, Mantio, and Sherry Burris. In
addition to the live show, Ronins will also be featured
on Overtime, the syndicated version of the show. So he's
been a regular guest on the show in the recent years,

(01:18:31):
including a hosting gig back in twenty twenty four, and
obviously he's been a guest host on Rich Eisen's show.
But yeah, he's going to be doing the NFL Network
for the for this season.

Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
That's a low bar. The low bar they over there.

Speaker 1 (01:18:49):
The fact they offered it to Seth and not to
see him punk. It's just a little painful.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
Well, the fact that they offered it to sets and
not anybody that's like interesting or charismatic or can speak well, sure,
it's weird. It's weird, by the way. I mean, for
fifteen years I've done this show with you, and my
accent has always been a bone of contention for some people.
And how clearly you have the radio voice and I'm

(01:19:15):
just someone that can speak with conviction. But Rollins's voice
is him being on a show being like and out
now of the ancient a gun for him on fourth
and turn their pants completion and right cycle are you
I know this is like the NFL network and you

(01:19:35):
guys have to fill time.

Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
Do you think he's gonna talk in real voice? And
do you think he's gonna use fucking TV voice?

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
That's what his voice sounds like.

Speaker 1 (01:19:44):
I've heard him mellow it down a little bit, like
when he was accepting the Heavy Metal Awards. He mellowed
it down a little bit, but he still has that
shitty laugh, right, But do you think he's gonna be.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
Like, hey, Chicago Bears bear down game really means to
tighten on Pink's dirt. He's drowned on dirt and short
god like. Like I said, his voice is grading.

Speaker 1 (01:20:15):
Oh yeah, it's really brutal.

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
I'm close, Becky. I think what really throws me huff
in this? Maybe maybe what say something in German? It
gets me there? Yeah, reminds him observe which, by the way,

(01:20:41):
like I think Zara ra if she got caught doing
that ship now, they'd be like, hey man, she's just
expressing herself.

Speaker 1 (01:20:49):
I was gonna say they would crown her or make
her queen.

Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
Yeah right. Twitter would be like I don't see the.

Speaker 1 (01:20:57):
She was just fatigued before the rest of us were.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
Guys, it's right.

Speaker 8 (01:21:04):
Twitter.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
Twitter would be like you dropped your crown, queen, good
fucking God. No, like think of the people like right
now on WWE television. Dare I even say this is
how fucking far I've gone off the rails of not
being able to handle seth rollins. Dare I even say,

(01:21:28):
at least a Baron Corbin played football in the NFL. Yeah,
I went there, and I and for as little as
I like Baron Corbin, enjoy him speaking his work whatever,
at least then you're getting to this point where you
got somebody that is coming from some place of knowledge

(01:21:48):
right in the littlest pig. I mean to the point
of I almost see this in the same way as
if somebody was like, hey, uh, should I me personally?
Should you want to be on some sort of NFL
network program? Or some guy that even fucking was an
equipment manager, I'd be like, please ask the equipment manager.

(01:22:10):
You clearly you're gonna fucking have better shit to say
even than me. That's stupid, that makes any sense. But
I'm sure I'm sure Seth La had a lot to
the show, and I think that they should bring him
on full time for Monday Night Football too. Of course
they should have him on Monday Night Football. You know,
it's Thursday night football, Friday night Saturday. Can we get
Saturday NFL? Maybe you should show up on Saturday to

(01:22:32):
do NFL shows, you know, just to warn people up
for the Sunday. You know, whatever, whatever keeps them busy,
whatever keeps them occupied, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
Yeah. Sorry, I got sidetracked a little bit here. I apologize.
I was looking at Trish Stratus's new anime anime pictures
from her calendar.

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
That's a fifty year old woman.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
That is a fifty year old woman. Fifty more than fifty,
isn't she like fifty one or fifty two?

Speaker 2 (01:22:58):
Well, that's fine. It's a whole new world, folks, I mean,
whole new world.

Speaker 1 (01:23:06):
I guess it works.

Speaker 2 (01:23:07):
Yeah, that's I guess everybody. You know what, man, I
guess everybody ends up in the anime wig. Huh. Yeah?
Is that what we got now?

Speaker 9 (01:23:16):
Pretty much?

Speaker 2 (01:23:17):
That's the world. That's the world we live in, right.

Speaker 1 (01:23:20):
Just try she knows what sells. She ain't no dummy,
that girl. That woman knows exactly how to get her
fans to buy the twenty twenty five twenty sixth calendar.

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
Oh yeah, she's not believe me. I know she's not wrong.
I know this was a good choice on her part.
But it really is funny to read at the point
where it's just, hey, you're a beautiful woman. You believe me,
You're attractive, attractive lady, but you know this to be true.
You're all gonna end up in the blue wig. Yeah,

(01:23:53):
all gonna end up as you're all gonna end up
throwing a peace sign. You're gonna all end up in
a little sailor saying how it goes? Now, folks, it's
just you might as well just hunker down and know
that that's going to happen to you.

Speaker 1 (01:24:10):
I hey, either way, no, mimmy, I'm just going to
continue to throw up, Uh, not actually throw up, but
throw us.

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
No yeah, up upload.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
I mean I might choke him till he throws up.
But that's a different story every hear.

Speaker 2 (01:24:25):
That's focus on the up and load the upper. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
No, Tricia's fucking still Jesus Christ dropped dead, gorgeous. Good
for her man, And and.

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
You think about the way that this works out like
we were, a lot of our topics today have evolved
around that partism. You know, yes, but then you see
some people where you go, all right, they got money,
they got time, and they use it correctly. You know, like,
she's what you said, fifty one years old something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:00):
Check right now. I thought, that's what she is.

Speaker 2 (01:25:02):
Yeah, well we'll just call it. We'll just round and
call it a fifty. You know, if you've got the
money and the time and the resources she has, and
you use it forty nine to take care forty nine,
all right, so you know what, I'll do the nice
thing as a lady. As a lady, I'll round her
down to forty five. How about that? There you go,
So even as a forty five woman that she's using

(01:25:24):
her she's using her privilege and money if you want
to call it that whatever, she's using it to great effect.
You know, she's not using it to go punch of
people in the face in a fucking auto garage.

Speaker 1 (01:25:37):
Right, She's not. She's not dropping Gianna Prazzo with twenty
two shots to the head. Yeah, she's She's.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
Not starting a shitty fucking pro wrestling company and then
running it for six years and wasting a half a
billion dollars. She's not doing that. She's just remaining really
good looking and in great shape and keeping her body up.

Speaker 1 (01:25:57):
See it's funny too use the money. Kibella did an
interview earlier this week too, and uh, I guess she's
trying to convince everybody that every single woman in the
WWE roster wants Bree back. And I just read like
I haven't listened to the interview, nor did I read
the transcript, but just based on the headline, I'm just

(01:26:18):
thinking to myself, is it because you suck that bat?
Is it because they just would rather have Brie instead
of you? I don't know, well's me.

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
I'm sorry, Well, no, the reason why that's crazy is
because Nicky was fucking Ricky Flareboat compared to well, Brie.

Speaker 1 (01:26:39):
I'd like to believe that Nicky isn't full of shit.
And every single girl did say, oh man, when is
Bree coming back? Oh this place was so much better
with Bri around, and nick he's like, as just.

Speaker 2 (01:26:53):
Like you might just like her as a woman.

Speaker 1 (01:26:55):
No, I'm just being cheeky.

Speaker 2 (01:26:57):
Fuck. I know. It's like it's funny to imagine, like
maybe in Nicki's mind. She's like, I'm by back, so
they could show these gud got tell wrong and it's like, no, no, Nikki.
They might just they just think she's nice. They just
think she's a nice woman, and they like you. They
probably like you as a person, but they're well aware

(01:27:17):
of the fact that the actual work itself is not fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
So we got clash at the Perry right coming up,
Perry A yes, Perry, yeah we have. We have a
couple of people going much love to them. That'll be
there and right now. According to Russell Ticks, eight hundred
something tickets are still available. Current setup is for thirty thousand,
six hundred and they've already gotten twenty nine thousand, seven
six sixty tickets already sold. The cheapest ticket is one

(01:27:47):
hundred and twenty two euros, so like a hundred what's that?
What's that in America money? I think it's like one
hundred and fifty one hundred and sixty bucks right right
around there.

Speaker 2 (01:27:55):
Okay, that's pretty reasonable.

Speaker 1 (01:27:57):
Yeah, that's for the nosebleedies, So.

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
I mean that's reasonable seeing what people are paying over here.

Speaker 1 (01:28:04):
Well, yeah, it's no vegas, no no, but Dave Meltzer
apparently came out today also and he said there's at
least a solid chance that they're going to add Andy
Randy Orton, not Andy Rohrton Andrew McIntyre to the pay
per view on Sunday. It's not one, but it was

(01:28:25):
something that's been talked about.

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
I'm sorry, I'm still thinking that it would be great
if they brought out Andy Rorton.

Speaker 1 (01:28:34):
So stupid, just.

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
A complete bait and switch, like, oh, you didn't get it.
Frenchies know, no, of course they're going to add Maybe
he'll add another match, maybe they won't. Brilliant man, take
my money.

Speaker 1 (01:28:49):
Brock Lesner probably show up right, brock Leasterner will make
the trip for five minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
Can you picture brock Lessner. He just flies all the
way to fucking Paris and he just comes out and
does like a yelly roar and then it just gets
back on a plate that's nothing else. Like it's like, hey, Brock,
you want to have some French food. He's like that
should fall with sucks. Just leaves immediately. You want to

(01:29:17):
stay here see some of the sights.

Speaker 1 (01:29:19):
There's no, they don't have French fries.

Speaker 2 (01:29:24):
Do you guys have leg of deer, like we have
cigarettes and bread. Yeah, do you like sigaurettes and bread
and depression? Would you like a turtleneck? And uh? Would
you enjoy here? Yeah? But by the way, this is

(01:29:45):
a random French pay per view. What is it on
one o'clock in the afternoon Eastern time something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:29:51):
I don't know. I'm not going to be here, dude.
I'm gone, actually, I cause I.

Speaker 2 (01:29:56):
Can't how you're gonna miss this, dude. It's a great show.

Speaker 1 (01:29:59):
I can't the little lady into taking off Friday too,
so we get to get the fuck out of here
and go take care of some shit, so I get
an extra day, So I'm not going to be here tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:30:09):
Well, I'm I'm very upset with you for enjoying your
life instead of watching the vacation.

Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
Vacation was the Wisconsin Dell's from a couple of weeks back.
This is not vacation, but it needs to be done.
So it's one of those I told you I was
still looking for places, right, That's what we're doing. So
we're doing the ground pounding out there and the az
looking for place shit.

Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
Yeah, well you know what if you end up somewhere that.
Then then when WWE moves everything to Vegas, there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:30:45):
I still won't go. What am I gonna do afford
a seventy thousand dollars ticket? Now it's so pricey I
can't go.

Speaker 2 (01:30:52):
Well, well, I didn't say the show I'm in you
to see? Yeah, to stand out front, to give his
thumbs up, you know, watch it in one of the
seven hundred bars that'll probably be playing out on the
strip or you know, offstrip.

Speaker 1 (01:31:04):
Yeah, no, I'd probably go to Vegas. It's only a
couple hours away from where she's at, like literally like
two two and a half hours away, and it's like, man,
I can do that sleeping. Yeah, that's nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:31:14):
That's at that point, and especially when the weather is decent.
It's not, it's not rough. Are you high?

Speaker 1 (01:31:22):
Why in the fuck would I want to go to Baltimore.
I'm I literally live in Chicago. Dude, What the fuck
did you ever think about moving to a suburb of Chicago? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:31:37):
So I was thinking a real change of scene, or
how about a lateral move?

Speaker 1 (01:31:43):
Yeah? Rearly?

Speaker 2 (01:31:44):
Oh like this, it's like if some it's like a
synonym almost of a place.

Speaker 1 (01:31:51):
Cinnamon. I love cinnamon, So.

Speaker 2 (01:31:55):
Well either way.

Speaker 1 (01:31:56):
But fifteen minutes after the show got a dose of chocolate.
They're going to be covering a volve, which is going
to be interesting because there's been a mini bus flip,
a Winnebago flip, if you will. With the I D kids,
I think they they lost three today and then they
lost however else was a part of the Knox progra.

Speaker 2 (01:32:15):
I didn't even I didn't even know that happened. I
wonder why they're getting rid of ID kids.

Speaker 1 (01:32:20):
I have no clue, but they got rid of three
of them. They got yeah, what was it, Ice Pack,
Ice Raid, Jerry Curl and uh uh an Omaha steak.

Speaker 2 (01:32:30):
Yeah, they got rid of not Jordan Oasis.

Speaker 1 (01:32:34):
Yeah, Jordan Oasis, Ice Williams and Jerry Curl. Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:32:41):
Is it wrong that I believed you even up until
the second name. I was like, yeah, sure, and you
were like Jerry Curl and wait.

Speaker 1 (01:32:47):
A minute, always being silly, No not r Yeah, dude,
there's no wrestler that would ever name himself Jerry Curl.

Speaker 2 (01:32:57):
Well, I can tell you this much. I think he'll
make it and a w Yeah, he can be a
fresh new upstart and compete against uh, what's his name
Mike Bailey.

Speaker 1 (01:33:10):
He's gonna be a big Chikara star one day.

Speaker 2 (01:33:15):
For their revival. You know what, maybe that's the problem
was Tony Kantra had just bought the fucking the Library
of Chikira and just ran that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:24):
You should have since he's with r O H, the
r OH women would have been more successful. Yeah, the
women's champion still isn't a thing. Who do they hire
that they were going to make the next big thing?
So do you? And she got injured the first time
she stepped off out in the ring. Oh no, she
pulled like a fucking Peter Griffin and like, oh my me.

Speaker 2 (01:33:46):
So see, I'm not even following it to that level.
All right, Well, be safe out there and I'll figure
out something for Patty for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:33:55):
And enjoy your holiday, everybody. Much love. Subscribe to the patron,
subscribe to the YouTube. Much love to Dan, who does
a lot of work for behind the scenes of the
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love to Tuny, Talk Wrestling, Show love to PWT and
Phil Marx and Uzy. These guys are fucking great. And
then of course Drew Yari was off this week, so

(01:34:16):
now experience, but you can check them out online. Check
out Jeff Lippman shows Garden of Thought. He's got a
couple of good ones up there. He's got uh does
does he have Querto coming again? He's got somebody else
coming again. He's got a bunch of famous MLW guys
and he likes to mingle a little bit. And of
course LuFisto and Jeff Lipman covering alf G this week

(01:34:37):
which will be up and yeah, we'll see you, We'll
see you soon.

Speaker 2 (01:34:41):
Yeah, much love.

Speaker 1 (01:34:45):
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