August 19, 2025 • 58 mins
Join Joe Numbers as he tackles TripleMania, delivering candid insights and reactions. In Mitch's absence, Joe breaks down the show's lineup, scrutinizes the matches, and provides genuine commentary on everything from the performers' skills to the event's presentation. Joe ventures into discussions about WWE's influence, wrestlers' futures, and the controversial decisions made during the event. Whether it's sharing thoughts on Otis' involvement, discussing La Parka's iconic entrance, or critiquing the women's match, Joe leaves no stone unturned in this thorough post-show analysis. Don't miss out on his engaging take on the state of wrestling, the current talent, and predictions for the future.
00:00 Introduction and Setup
01:58 Triple Mania Review Begins
02:41 Critique of Lucha Libre and Wrestling Commentary
06:47 WWE Influence on Triple A
08:03 Royal Rumble Style Match Analysis
12:43 Omos and Micro Man's Performance
26:23 Judgment Day vs. Lucha Talent
30:52 Impulse Buys and WWE's Pricing Strategy
31:52 The Value of Puppets and Collectibles
33:59 Wrestling Trends and TripleMania Insights
35:00 Los Garzas vs. Pano and Psycho Clown
39:14 Women's Match Critique
42:55 Konnan Induction Speech and Main Event
53:08 Final Thoughts and Q&A
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00:00 Introduction and Setup
01:58 Triple Mania Review Begins
02:41 Critique of Lucha Libre and Wrestling Commentary
06:47 WWE Influence on Triple A
08:03 Royal Rumble Style Match Analysis
12:43 Omos and Micro Man's Performance
26:23 Judgment Day vs. Lucha Talent
30:52 Impulse Buys and WWE's Pricing Strategy
31:52 The Value of Puppets and Collectibles
33:59 Wrestling Trends and TripleMania Insights
35:00 Los Garzas vs. Pano and Psycho Clown
39:14 Women's Match Critique
42:55 Konnan Induction Speech and Main Event
53:08 Final Thoughts and Q&A
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/wrestling-soup--1425249/support.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
My things too. I've done developable. Hey everybody, and welcome
to the Wrestling Soup post show for triple Mania. Whatever
series of number this is, I don't even know, all right, folks.
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So it's just me. I'm the problem. It's me. It's
just Joe Numbers by himself right now. So Mitch is
out of town and I got around to watching this
Triple Mania show. I did about half of it on Saturday, truthfully,
and then I did a little bit more of it yesterday,
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and now I finished it up this morning, and I
was like, all right, I'll go on YouTube. I'll get this,
you know, I'll get this show going. I'll do a
little something something, I'll do a quick review and yeah,
I might as well get into it. So it's not
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all right, all right, so let's move over real quick.
We will talk about Triple Mania. I don't know what
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the series of numbers is because I am fucking stupid
when it comes to Roman numerals. What is this? Thirty three?
Is that what it is? Someone's gonna have to fill
me in here. I don't watch it. I don't know.
I'm not Roman or nothing like that, not Roman reigns
or Greek or I really don't care when it comes
to that sort of stuff. It fell out of my brain,
I think in sixth grade. But it doesn't matter, all right,
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So triple A triple Mania. She swear they get that
fucking name from huh Mania. So let's get into this
card all right. First, Actually, no, what fucking fuck that? Alright,
let me make sure I get this clear out of
the way. A lot of people were pretty salty about
(02:55):
my review for the last Triple Mania because they were,
you know, if you don't understand man, you don't get it.
You just don't get Luca lebre or whatever the fuck,
and you know what. To some extent, I guess that
that's a fair enough assessment. To the extent of I'm
not sitting around and regularly watching all these people all
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of the time. It's just not happening. The other day
I sat on the show that I sat down and
watched an MLW show for the first time in like,
I don't know, two years. I was like, yeah, that
was pretty fun. And there are people that are you know,
wrestling watchers or observers or you know, whatever you want
to call it, commentators or you know, podcasters fill in
(03:39):
the blank. They have this belief that you need to
watch every single minute of wrestling that is available to
you at all times, or you're just not informed, or
you don't know what you're talking about, or you don't
fully understand it. And what I like to think of
when people have that opinion is that sometimes and you're
(04:00):
commenting on things you don't need to be you know
somebody that is fully engulfed in it. Okay, I'll throw
it back for you. Guys. There used to be these
two guys named Siskel and Ebert. If you're under the
age of like thirty five, you probably have never heard
of them before. They have movie reviewers, all right, and
(04:21):
these two guys, for the most part, hated horror movies.
They weren't big fans of the slasher films and all
that other shit. And they were trying to review movies
in the nineteen eighties, primarily in the eighties and I
believe somewhat into the nineties. So they were always put
in this position where horror fans were pissed at them
(04:44):
because they would say, you know, well, the new Jason
movie is its fucking stupid, or you know, I don't
understand like why Freddy Krueger like playing a guitar at
a kid's starting him or something. Now whatever, the problem
was right, and it was always, oh my god, what
the hell it's wrong with these guys. These guys don't
know what they're talking about. They just don't understand the
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greatness of Child's Play three. And that's where we started
to see like that was like the little beginnings of it.
And people could, you know, bitch about it on forums,
you know, for movies or TV shows or whatever. If
they you know, met up with other fans in public
or in line at the theater. Ah, they don't know
what they're talking about, right, They don't know what they mean,
(05:27):
they don't know where they're coming from. But the reality
is is if you're trying to make something that widely appeals,
sometimes you're better off having somebody speak to it that
understands what the base of this thing is supposed to
be as opposed to what the niche fandom of it
is going to always enjoy. And you know they're in
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on let's put it that way, they're not in on it, Okay,
So yeah, that happens sometimes in wrestling. I know what
wrestling is supposed to look like. I'll pat myself on
the back and give myself that all right. I know
there's a lot of people that lack humility in the
wrestling space, so I wouldn't be the first person to
have their opinion like that. But I know, for the
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most part, you know what it's supposed to look like.
I also know that some things just don't some things
just don't jive all right. Where there'll be people that
will be into it for five minutes or some people
that will be all about it for six months or
a year, but is there any real longevity to it?
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Probably not, But that leads me to this point, all right.
I gave the last Triple A show a lot of shit,
and this one not so much. I don't. I think
that My biggest takeaway from what was going on with
this card and how this show played out is ww's
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influence is going to slowly but surely help them smooth
out some of the edges on what this product is.
And I'm sure some people will say, what do you mean,
They're going to homogenize it, or they're going to you know,
americanize it, and not fully, but just more so to
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the effect of how's the show going to actually flow?
Who are we going to put on the card. What
are we going to do with these people where we
put them in front of an audience once again in Mexico,
in a different country, a whole other different world. But
at the same time, we're now trying to put in
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WWE names that are you know, for lack of a
better term, or household names. I'm not sure that cars
of brothers are going to you know, ring bells across
the nation. But you see where I'm going, right, how
are we going to incorporate this type of talent into
a lot of people that for the most part, they
work within their niche to say it nicely, but it's
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coming together a little bit more clear, and I think
this show is a good example of that. So anyways,
we start the night off. They did a little, you know,
royal rumble kind of deal. It's called the bar Doll Cup.
Someone's going to have to explain to me what that means,
not going to claim to know what it is. So
the show opens, and of course there's like a nice
(08:28):
little video package beforehand. Right, Ray comes out, you know,
or Ray pops up on the screen. Ray goes through
a whole deal. He talks about how important Triple Menia is,
right and that leads into this match and a real
solid choice to be the first person to come out
for this you know, royal rumble type match, none other
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than Laparca, which was cool. It was very very cool
to see Laparca. However, this is where we're gonna have
to once again. You know, we're gonna have to revision.
You know, we're gonna have to tighten up this vision.
It's very obvious to anybody with the years that they
(09:12):
removed copywritten music and have them come out to come
out to stock music that was overlaid with like fake
cheers and everything right, and I wasn't sure what it
was at first. I'm like, Okay, well, you know, what
is this shit music? I don't get it. And the
myths assays to me, she goes, oh, he's coming out
(09:34):
to thriller, and I go really, She goes, yeah, look
at the dancing. The color you know will follow his
dancers with him. They're doing the thriller moves and shit,
And I was like, oh, man, I didn't even pick
up on that, and lo and behold, googled it and yeah,
he's coming out to Thriller, to which I say, this
was not this was not the last time that happened
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on the show. Okay, Like, let's put it that way.
If you're gonna have the types of triple A shows
where the crowd can only like, oh, the crowd can
hear the music, but the people at home can't hear it. Man,
they have trained the WWE audience to be so singularly
minded when it comes to entrances and how important they are.
(10:17):
You can't fart out this stock music from back in
the day, like when they would dub over the old
ECW pay per views. You can't do that, especially if
you're trying to build up people. If you're trying to
make these people seem like equals, are trying to seem
like stars, pony up, pay somebody for I mean, I'm
not saying you're gonna get the rights to fucking thriller,
but you know, pony up the rights to something, make
(10:38):
a fucking you know, make a boot of it, make
a close copy to whatever the music's gonna be, because
it ain't gonna work. Man, It's not gonna work for people.
If you have all these people who now at this point,
you know, as time's going on, the people that are
more regulars on WWE's roster. They're getting better music and
(11:00):
it's clearly made by real musicians and more popular artists.
And you can't say, okay, well now we're doing the
Luca show and then the guys come out to you know,
it's like, yeah, no, these guys, these guys, they're not
going to get over with a w w WEE audience,
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with a regular everyday w w WEE fan that they're
seeing the ads or Triple Mania. They're seeing the ads
for whatever the next you know, Triple A big show
they want to promote. They got to figure something out.
But Laparka comes out good reaction to that. I will
say my one problem with the new Laparca too tall
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makes the skeleton suit look weird, if that makes sense
all right, where it's like Laparka was a little bit
like he was a stout dude, right, was shorter and
he had to fucking arms, and like it made the
skeleton suit look a little bit snugger and made it
look a little bit better. Yeah, I don't know. They
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gotta kind of figure that a little bit. And that's true,
thank you. To do with the excellent chevroom, yeah fucking no, yeah,
no chair either. I don't know why they didn't have
him do the chair. By the way, it's like, la
park Is the guy with the chair, but Parker is
not the one that's whatever. Folks at this at this point,
(12:26):
we're just doing like whatever, el heo, sondav rip off
close enough gimmicks. Just come out with the fucking chair.
Make it for the secular WWE audience, because clearly that's
what you're going for. And then you know, there was
a handful of people that came out in this that
I am not familiar with. Of course, until then, I mean,
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I'll just jump into the ww You guys. Otis came
into this, and I gotta say, Otis looked very comfortable
in this setting. It was weird, but it's like, at
the same time, Otis is such a goofy guy that
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to put him into these types of matches, these gimmick
matches where you know, you're slapping your belly and you're
kissing your opponent and shit like that, like he fits
into that so well that this was a hell of
a call. Whoever said, hey, you know, pick a pick
a couple of names out of a hat, pick a
couple of the guys on the roster that we know
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like that can show up and do the deal and
they'll be funny and they'll be entertaining. It's like, oh,
there you go, that's the guy to do it. I
will say, there was a moment in this match and
I gotta I gotta say to the mecha wolf guy,
mecha Wolf, listen to me, buddy. That was very very
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rude of you to stop Otis from coming out of
pant sexual during this match, because he was like ready,
He was ready, man, he was ready to make smooches.
He was ready to come out, you know, live his
best life. I want the world to know. And then
he interferes with them and I'm like, see you look
at Otis. Man. Otis was ready to like be his
(14:16):
be his true selves, do you know what I mean?
And then this guy dressed like one of the fucking
you know a Misfits cover bands extras, fucking stole that
whole moment. Son of a sound of a beasting And yeah,
oh no, I mean, don't get me wrong, that was over.
That was also really fucking over, which that shows me too.
Otis is really good for whatever. Like I feel like
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he's going to be a guy that I don't know
if he's gonna be in WWE in three years. I'm
not sure if he's gonna if that's gonna be a thing.
I'm not sure how long he's gonna make it. I
know they like him, and I know obviously he can,
you know, plug and play. He can be funny, he
can be intimidating, would need be which you know, sure
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he was pinned by a guy that was two feet tall,
but you know whatever, we'll just ignore that. You can
be intimidating. What do you be? But that's the deal.
Like what do you do? Like? What do you do
with him? In like WWE? For like I said, in
five years, I don't think he'll be around, but I
can safely say he'll be a dude where he'll find
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a space at a TNA, he'll find a place in
you know, Triple A or any of these other spots.
And I'm and I'm an Otis guy. Anyways, I like Otis.
I like what he does. I don't think that everybody
needs to be super serious. And you're also talking to
somebody who was a was a hillbilly gym guy. So
no hate whatsoever there whatsoever, But so whatsoever whatsoever. But
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still Meca wolf Man, fucking come on, dude, grow up.
It's twenty twenty five. Yeah, sometimes, you know, sometimes big
heavy guys want kids, dudes and ladies clothes. It is
what the fuck it is right from Mad Max. Oh,
Mad Max, you could at least have put a message
with it. But thank you for the one bone the
(16:10):
thugas shruggish bone here. So, by the way, Mad Max,
thank you for showing up. He will be here to
translate and tell me what a fucking cracker ass you know,
honkey dumb ass I am on some of these takes
that I have respectfully though too, I trust him in
a lot more respects than a lot of other people
because I've had these LUTRA related conversations with people once
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again where it's very you know, you just don't you
just don't get it. Mean, I'm like, yeah, I don't know, man.
When I see people bum stumbling around and they can't
fucking take a headlock and they can't run the ropes,
you just don't get it. Man. All right, Well looks
like shit. But you know, Mad Max has been a
good guy routinely about all this stuff, and for fifteen
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years now, I've known the guy, so I trust his opinion.
This is a period a lot of things. So shout
out to Mad Mexan. Thank you for that. Brother. Let's
see what it says. Oh, how could I forget? So
the Big Man, I'm just gonna blow it past some
of these fucking entrances. Who cares? The Big Man? Oh
Moss comes out in this and boy, oh boy, I mean,
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once again, we're finding little spots for these guys that
you know they can't be used or won't be used
on certain WWE shows and programming. But you don't wipe
your ass with the dude that's seven foot fucking ten,
who knows. I mean, he's fucking ginormous. You don't wipe
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your ass with this guy. He's a nice dude. He
treats people well, he's known for being really respectful, wants
to do well, and his shit doesn't look bad. It
looks better than it did in the past. Granted, he
didn't have to do a whole tell of a lot
in this match, but it's nice that they're finding spots
for some of these guys and some of these girls
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in something like a triple A or a TNA. And
I hope they do go in that in that pattern,
they do go into that path, and like I said,
I'm not gonna shoot on this show was hard because
I'm starting to see a little bit more of the
vision of what they want to do with this. Unfortunately,
I'm not sure what they're gonna do with some of
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these people because they're't all gonna make it all right,
And I'll get to that later on in the match.
But yeah, this was fun, man, this was a fun match,
a nice finish. Omas sends up going over because of
course he should. There was a scene in it where
the guy that was two feet tall, which, let me
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tell you, was it a Microman? Was it Microman? Microman?
Mini man? That dude, that's that's a that's a Microman.
Like that's a little fucking dude, man, Like the way
that sometimes wrestling, let's call it what it is, right,
they got tall little people. That happens sometimes you'll see
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it where it's like, ah, it's a little person. You're like, yeah, proportionally,
you know, that's kind of obviously, but they're like four
foot five. I'm like, yeah, they're closer to just like
being an Italian nana than they are like an actual
like dwarf, you know what I mean? Now Microman though, Oho, Microman,
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I'm like looking at it and anything they did with him,
the way he got thrown around, and shit, I'm thinking
to myself, not only is it just visually crazy, it's
visually nuts where you're like, oh my fucking god. I'm
not even talking about the part where they had him
next to Omas, which you couldn't. I mean, you've write
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that down on paper. It's it's fucking it's perfect. He
had his interaction with otis perfect. You had Otis protecting
him so entertaining, really really well done. The way that
they laid that out was really cool and really fun.
And truthfully, when they ended, when Microman finally got out
of there, in my mind him going, you know, fuck
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the Iguana guy, get them get Microman on TV with
American Alpha or whatever they call themselves. Now he should
be I mean, imagine Otis coming down with the ring
carrying him with like a little He's got like a
little flag or something. Oh that's I mean, you wouldn't
do it. I wouldn't say do it weekly, but I
mean that's a fucking that's an attraction, man. You know
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what honestly, just put Omas with them too. Fuck it,
We'll just make the oddities, you know what, Let's just
try to make WWE mildly entertaining again if it's just
gonna be mostly fucking dull. But anyways, back to the
end of the match, Omas won because of course, and
he should and the kudos for that fun opener didn't
feel particularly long, but you know, I think it went
(20:54):
like fifteen minutes. But they did really well with it,
all right, So anyways, onto this new deal. This was
This wasn't bad, but it wasn't good at at at all.
(21:14):
This wasn't the worst shit I've ever seen in my life.
I wasn't super embarrassed by it, but yeah, all right,
so anyways, it was he Odell doctor Wagner Junior versus
messiahs or Judas Messiah for he and a fame who
he has gotten older, he has lost the majority of
his musculature, and he wasn't a particularly great worker to
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begin with, and he o Deel Wagner Junior. All right,
let me say this, all right, I really doubt we're
ever going to see that dude on television for WWE
television pretty much ever, unless it's some sort of fluke. Right,
Maybe they'll do like a Survivor series where it's like
a real Survivor series again, not just like one match,
(22:01):
but a whole show, and they could say Team Triple
A and they do something like that, which could be cool,
which could be fun. But I feel like outside of
the confines of that, you'll probably never see him on
WWE television. Just from seeing how this guy moved around
and worked, wasn't particularly blown away, not really impressive. But
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I will say this his dad who i'd seen doctor
Wagner before. I never really obviously watched much of his matches.
I'm not, like I said, a big Lucha libre guy,
but that guy fucking looks like a star. Like even
as an older man, he just looks put together. He's
got the he's got the tam with the white hair,
(22:45):
he's got the nice shirt, he's got to watch on like.
He looked good. Like I'm like that guy. I don't
know if his English, if he speaks English, well, I
don't know what you know, because he would just be
a dude really, even as a fucking manager or something.
Because I saw and I go, oh, he he looks
like he could be a star. He looks like he
could be somebody. And yes, people are like, well, yeah
(23:08):
that you know, that's actually you know Wagner's son, all right, yeah,
and David Flair was Rick Flair's son. Like I'm not
saying he's that bad, but I'm just saying, like, that's
it is. What the fuck it is? Right, Like, it's
not always like you're going to be just the star
that your parents were. Well, I mean, you got to
(23:29):
think of it this way too. And it's always funny
with wrestling. This happens right where people go, oh, yeah,
but that's so and so's kid, so he's got to
be like a big, big star, right, And he's like, okay, sure.
And then I think to myself, I'm like, hey, when
when does Taylor Swift's mom's album come out? You know,
(23:50):
is she gonna make some music? Like oh yeah, dude,
it's not the it's not the same, Like it's a well,
I mean, their kids should be as good as the parent.
You're like, there's a lot of kids whose parents aren't
as good as them. That doesn't fucking mean anything, you
know what I mean. It's like Patrick Mahomes' dad played
baseball I know, I don't think he was a Hall
of Famer or anything, but it's like, wow, he was
(24:13):
more successful than him. Like it's not always a guy,
damn guarantee you right? Oh yeah, Lightnings thing for Ricky
Steamboat's kid, Well, Ricky Steinboat's kid was apparently on his
way to being pretty fucking good. He just got hurt young,
which is really which really sucks because love Steamboat and
if that kid was even half as good as his dad,
(24:33):
that would have been fucking great. Oh I almost missed this.
Oh coping doom for one ninety nine bones, thank you, Sarah.
Good for Omas and otis better than catering nine. I mean,
I don't want to go back to that match fully,
but no, you're right, like that makes a lot of
sense once again to use these dudes, to put them
in these spots, to give them a shot to do
(24:55):
a little something, and it stops them, not necessarily from
the show's getting stale. But when it's something like TRIPLEA
where you're going all right once again el Mesias versus
he Ho del Wagner Junior, it's like, yeah, I got
to give you guys something before that. I got to
(25:16):
put a bunch of people like that, you might wreckon
Omas great, you know otis here. Well, let's put a
fucking smile on your face. We got the you know,
we got the dwarf wrestler, I mean smaller a dwarf wrestler.
So they were like, all right, here's all this fun
shit for you guys that are like a casual audience
that might tune in, because we know we can't jump
(25:37):
directly into this, you know, very Luca eccentric match. I
guess you want to call it that. Yeah, this was
what the fuck it was. And I'm reading the notes
on it right now and it's like, I guess I'msias
is almost fifty years old. Now they're like, oh, he's
moving around good in the ring. I'm like, come on, man,
(25:59):
come on, let's not get crazy. It was. It was
what the fuck it was. I'll say this though, once again,
the fucking dad looks like something. The dad looks like
a star. Well. I once again never heard him, have
never saw a match, never heard of promo, don't know
much about him, truthfully, but the dad looks more like
(26:21):
a star than most of the people that showed up
on TV that were from TRIPAA tonight, so is what
the fuck it is? All right, So let's move on
to the next match, another match featuring ww B Tallent
Judgment Day versus Lolavice, mister Iguana and the Hamburger Kid
(26:45):
hamburg Asa, if you will. So, going back to what
I said before, JD McDonough looked like a fucking beast
next to the hamburg An Iguana guy. All right, So
the Iguana guy's got a little bit of hight, Like,
I'll give him that, he's got a little bit of
(27:06):
height to him. But the Hamburger kid, I'm like, oh,
oh boy, oh boy. You had Otis already earlier in
the show and you're thinking to yourself, Okay, this is
like supposed to be there. Otis, right, but Otis has
at least three facial expressions. So I don't know if
(27:26):
the Hamburger Kid is going to really make it as
far as the WWE aligned television product. Now, once again,
I'd have to ask people to know better than me.
You know's this guy somewhat over People into him really
down There is a key guy that you keep around
on the show, keep him there regularly because it makes
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people happy. But this was this was fine, but also
a reminder why the Judgment Day are people that are
on television weekly for WW and mister Iguana and Hamburger
Kid are a comedy act, you know, and then you
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throw a loll of ice in there, which she also
just looks like a TV star. I haven't seen enough
of her recently in singles matches to have like a
particularly strong opinion one way or the other with house
he's doing and how her work looks. But I don't know,
like she's another one where maybe for now she's good
to keep there. And if the Iguana guy's over and
(28:32):
there's a you know, there's an act there and they
can make some money with it. Fine. But Judgment Day
went over, thankfully because it would have been a little
bit fucking silly if they had not. Now, I'm sure
everybody wants me to talk about this part with Finn
(28:52):
Baylor and the puppet, with Finn pulls out the El Demento,
the whatever the fun because the name of the thing.
He has a puppet now and the puppet's going to
fight the goddamn Iguana. Guys. It's silly. I get it's silly.
(29:13):
The show is silly. It's not supposed to be serious.
But at the same time it is also a reminder
to me that like, for some of these people that
are showing up and doing this, they're not anybody that's
going to become much on WWE's programming truly, aside from
like Dom at this point, which will get to how
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that main event played out. But yeah, that's kind of
telling like, if they're going to put you on these
Triple A shows at least for now, they don't see
much for you in the future. And if you're Finn
Baylor and you were a guy that was competing for
the heavyweight championship and you were this, you know, serious
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prospect coming out of Japan and blah blah blah, blah blah,
and now they're just using you to sell a fucking poppet.
It is what the fuck it is, man, That's that's
kind of the way to put it. And I saw
somebody sent me the puppet on whatever it was, shop
Zone or whatever, one hundred dollars. I mean, this is
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this is where WWE I get it. Man. You want
to you want to scrape all the Nichols, right, you
want to make all the fucking money in the world.
And that's just the point of running a company, and
especially if you want to run a wrestling promotion, but
you're really thinking like you're kicking the impulse by thing
(30:40):
and pushing it, pushing it way to the goddamn limit. Okay,
for those that might not remember this fifteen twenty years ago,
if you were around and you were young enough person
and the Jersey Shore shit was really popular right when
that was all popping off because that was all catchphrases. Right,
oh yeah, cabs are here, t shirt time, all this stuff.
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I'm definitely dating myself at whatever. There would be the
cheap shirts that they would sell and Spencer's gifts, or
if you're somewhere where you're walking by on some fucking
white trash boardwalk and they're spraying the shirts similarly to
the white trash board walk where they spray shirts with
the Jersey Shore works. You know, you see what I'm saying.
But they're selling them shits for twenty bucks, right, That's
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what an impulse buy is. An impulse buy is something
that you try to get it. You try to drag
people in for whatever one buck, two bucks, five bucks,
ten bucks, twenty bucks maybe right, one hundred dollars is
not getting the impulse buyer's ear even in twenty twenty five.
I mean, I just it's once again this other instance
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of like playing to an audience that they would prefer
to exist than one that actually does. But in my mind,
I saw that right, and I'm going, okay, so how
many of those hundred dollars puppets could they sell as
opposed to how many could they sell of twenty dollars puppets?
Do you see what I'm saying? Like they're going like
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quality over quantity in this situation. Oh, we're gonna sell
the fucking puppet for one hundred dollars and we're gonna
sell a bunch maybe, Or if you just made the
thing twenty bucks and people fucking popped online, Oh that
was so funny. Oh it's twenty bucks. They're ordering it
with their Apple pay not even thinking about it. But
when you say it's a fucking hundred dollars, I mean,
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I think everybody has done that at some point though.
Right where you've been in the store, you know, you
seem like a funny shirt or something, and you're like, oh, hey,
that's kind of funny. You're like, oh, hey, I like that.
That's kind of the cool, and then you flip the
price tag over and you go, not that fucking cool.
I think everybody has done that, and I don't know
if WWE realizes that. I don't even know if they care.
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They're just like, hey, fuck it by buy our one
hundred dollars fucking puppet, or go fucking screw Oh my god. Well, anyways,
I guess I should also say this too well on
the topic of wasting money, which you can do is,
of course, go over to our Patreon compex. It's not
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a waste of money, you know what I mean. We're
not charging you one hundred dollars for that, bitch. I mean,
if you give us one hundred bucks, we're not gonna
be sad about it. But I would advise you that
to not waste one hundred dollars on a fucking puppet.
I mean really, unless you're a puppeteer. If you're a puppeteer,
have a great time, do you know what I mean? Like,
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if that's really your hobby and you're into collecting puppets,
which I've I've known people who were, that's it's not
you know, it is, what the fuck? It is no
different than any other nerdy shit that people are into.
But if you just go funny you spend one hundred
bucks on that ship, you're kind of a fucking roub. Actually, no,
you are a roup. You're a fucking room. Thank you
(34:08):
Dirty Bird for fire Bones. Triple Media made it clear
that the future of wrestling is little people of crustresses
in our digital buppets. Uh, sir, sir, sir. I wouldn't
go as far as to say that's the future of wrestling,
but I will say that this is a lot more
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common south of the border. And once again, not a
fucking not a specialist on Lucia Libre or anything that
goes on in the Mexican wrestling seed, but I do
know the exotico thing that's way way more of a
common thing, been around for a really long time. I
don't remember the name of the of the of the
wrestler that was in this match, but I've seen other
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ones too that do the whole deal. Yeah, it's kind
of fucking common, man, But yeah, whatever, we'll see what happens.
That very complete blow off of the thing. Yeah, we'll
see what the fuck happens. How about that? All right? So,
speaking of saying also, thank you Dirty Bird five bucks
for that. Thanks Bud. I'll move on to the next match,
which this was a choice Lostcarza's versus Pagano and Psycho Clown.
(35:17):
All right, so Los scarses these guys I would have
predicted a lot more for when I first saw them
show up in ww A. Hector Garza Junior. I believe
that's what they're calling him now. I remember, let's just
call him Ponytail. So Ponytail fucking was a good promo.
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I think he's you know, they're both really good looking
kids too. They're both go looking guys, so that's another
thing too. I mean, obviously they got that gold for him.
They're both like these babies. They look like little models,
and they're just like, eh, we've got nothing for you.
Show the fuck up. You guys can have like a
seventy two pack. I mean, motherfuckers talk about Finn Bowler's abs.
(36:04):
What was not Ponytail fucking bull cut bull cut his
fucking Jesus Christ. That guy eat, Holy fuck. He is
absolutely hilariously ripped the fuck up. And I'm thinking to
myself seeing this guy, I'm going, dude, it's great to
getting if you're a wrestler, you want to be in
good a shape as humanly possible, not just for the
(36:24):
aesthetic but for the upkeep of your body. But I'm like,
this guy's this guy's killing himself in the gym for
seemingly very little as far as what WWE has in
the you know, in store of plans for them. But
the guards just came out. They look like stars. Dudes
look like a fucking million bucks. Honestly, I would have
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Magne Junior as their fucking manager at this point, honestly.
Fuck it. I mean, I know that he has a
son that's supposed to be a babyface and their heels,
but I don't know. I think that would look good.
I think that would look good as an act, but
I don't know. I'll tell you what doesn't look as
good as an act. I know, and psycho clown folks,
(37:10):
it doesn't get It doesn't get more indie shindy than this.
I'm fucking sorry, man, I'm sorry. They're hitting each other
with fucking plastic, fucking barbed wire like two minutes into
the match. Come on, come on, man, it's fucking corny,
and Corey Grace doesn't even know what to call it
(37:30):
because he knows it's ridiculous. There's parts in it where
you can just hear Conan go like, oh, yeah, I
don't want it, and JBL's like yeah, and JBL's not
even putting it over because I think JBL also knows
it's fucking idiotic for them to be doing that, not
only in a match, but like two minutes into it,
and we obviously can tell it's fucking fake and there's
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no blood and the guys aren't really going into it
or selling it, so it's just kind of it's kind
of moot. It's kind of a fucking moot point, right,
But that's kind of the theme of this match. It
was sort of a moot point. It was just your
average kind of street fight deal. I'm just glad that
Pagano and Psycho Clown didn't fucking hurt either of these guys.
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There was a table spot where I looked at it
and I go, oh my god, I can't believe I
think it was it was a ponytail. Who is it
that did the fucking power bomb? Whatever, whoever was giving
the power bomb, I'm like, I can't believe he didn't
break his fucking arm. I was genuinely surprised he didn't
break his fucking arm. But yeah, this was what this was,
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exactly what it was. It was a different kind of
match on the show. I will call it that. I
think that's a fair enough a fair enough explanation for this.
They didn't have any other kind of street fight tight matches,
so they gave the people a little bit of that.
The guards has reeled it in. It wasn't all over
the top too much, like I said, aside from random
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plastic barbed wire for some reason. And yeah, the clown
and Pigano won the thing and took the belt off
the Garzas. So good news for the Garza is they
don't have to wrestle these fucking goofballs. Probably well, I
don't want to say again, they'll probably have another pay
per view. But yeah, this was what the fuck it was,
all right, So here's the match you've all been waiting for, guys,
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because I've been largely positive about the show for the
most part, or at least tried to find a lot
of the silver lining in it. So Flamir versus flabby
Apache and an Italia. This thing fucking stunk. I mean,
(39:49):
this sucked. This royally fucking sucked. And I will put
maybe maybe five of the blame of that on Naddy.
And that's only because in my mind, Naddy shouldn't have
given these girls as much as they got. But she
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didn't have a choice really in the matter. Do you
see what I'm saying? Like one of the girls, whichever
was I don't know if it was flabby or flamer,
one of the other has a fucking has the belt.
Gives a fuck. This was just slow plotting, awkward. I
love Naddy to this day. I will put over fuck it.
(40:33):
I will say, listen, Naddy is not the person who's
going to sell you a million fucking T shirts. Naddy's
not going to make anybody a millionaire booking her. But
Naddy is going to have fucking great matches, or at
least good matches. Maybe not up until this point interesting
in this, but she's gonna have good matches. She's going
to do the right thing in her matches. And if
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you listen to this woman interviewed, you see in thirty seconds,
you see in thirty seconds why she's on the show,
Like why ww we keeps her around? She knows how
to talk, she's very, very like she's, for lack of
a better terms, she's a good politician. She says the
(41:16):
right thing, she knows how to motivate people, she puts
forth the correct attitude. She is the Mama bear, as
they say, and that's a good thing. But this thing, yeah, man,
when people wonder why or at least you know, I
saw some of the aw fans have a you know,
(41:36):
littless pissy fit when Stephanie Vicoor went straight to WWE television.
She didn't drop her you know, Mexican wrestling belts, or
she didn't do this. I'll tell you this much. I
fucking would have done everything I could as a woman
to get the fuck out of there too. Because if
this is, if this is your main event, I guess
(41:57):
you want to call it your main women's talent, What
the fuck is she gonna learn from them? She was
already ten miles past what these women are doing. I
mean aesthetically, work wise, I mean she was just way
way past them overall potential marketability. Is she gonna do? Go? Risk?
(42:20):
Risk there, risk going there and getting sat on by
Flamer and flabby apache Fuck that you got any fucking mind? Yeah?
This thing was, this was this existed, all right. I'm
not even gonna go too deeply into it. I'm sure
I'll piss off some women's wrestling purists that would tell
me that this was good. It was not. There was
(42:41):
some sort of story that goes on with the ref
where the ref's crooked. Is that what it is? Somebody
tell me what that deal is. It's the crooked ref
and he can't make the count and blah blah blah
blah blah that this thing just blew ass completely fucking
blue ass. Yeah, I'm just gonna skip right by that,
(43:02):
and so not great. I will say I feel a
little bit. I feel bad because I didn't watch the
Conan induction speech. I tried to, but they were doing
the deal where he was speaking in Spanish and then
somebody was coming right over it in English, and I'm like, dude,
just put subtitles on. I can't follow it. When people
(43:26):
try to do shit like that, I've seen that happen
on you know, random news shows or whatever it is.
I can't hear two voices at the same exact time
and try to really follows going on in any sort
of way where I'm trying to be like emotionally invested,
let's put it that way, or really focus. It's not
like they interview some dude that speaks Portuguese about a
(43:47):
house fire and he's like, yeah, me and my wife
and my kids were in the house and we smelled
smoke and we ran out the back door like that.
That's fine. I don't need to be super I ort
to be super invested in that. But I would go
back and actually, if somebody had like a you know,
transcription of it, I would go back and read the
speech because I thought, you know, Conyanne handled Ray's speech
(44:08):
so well and so respectfully, and he did such a
great job. And I'm sure Ray did the same exact
thing for him in return the favor. And I'm sure
it was good and it was interesting, and I like
Conan on his show, so I just, like I said,
it was just really hard to follow. It's really really
hard for me to focus and follow that shit. But
I guess now we will move on to I mean,
(44:29):
this is the show went by fast, dude, I will
move on to the main event. So you had VIKINGO
versus Dom versus Dragon Leave versus l Grande Americano. All right,
so let me stretch out a little bit here. I'm
gonna get a little bit of gonna get a little
bit of fucking sauce on me here for this one.
(44:50):
All right, I'm gonna spill a little bit of spill
a little bit of the fucking tea, I guess they
could say, or whatever the hell that means. I understand.
I understand looking at how WWE is right now, why
the fans in Mexico are mad about del Rio not
(45:10):
being there, I get it. And this is why, because
WWA at this point is so far removed from being
able to look at certain people and go, yeah, but
we're not so sure about your behavior, your history, or
(45:35):
your background or whatever. Come on, TKO is in a
position to do that once again. And this is not
me saying like, oh man, del Rio, what a fucking sweetheart,
what a great guy? If anything, I would want fucking
del Rio on my wrestling shows either. But I'm not
(45:55):
talking about what I think and feel and see. I'm
talking about if I was a fan and I really
was like, oh man, this is my favorite wrestler and
you pay to see him and this is your favorite guy,
and they're like, oh yeah, sorry, WWE just they just
don't agree with his past, and they just don't like
(46:16):
the things that he's either done or said in the past.
And then meanwhile I'm looking at him, going, well, you know,
Brock just kind of fucking came back, right and like
he had all this shit on him, right, Well, I
guess I'll ignore that, you know, Hmmm, it's weird. Then
(46:38):
I'm looking around, I'm going, I wonder when and this
seems to be an actual point of conversation. When's Vince
coming back? I'm seeing that more and more. When's Vince
coming back? It's like, oh, Vince, maybe Vince gonna Vince
show up on TV, but no del Rio. Hmm, weird. Right,
(47:00):
By the way, I'm probably missing what a half a
dozen fucking people, you know, dos with their DUI's fucking
guy du s eyes and they're given you know, pushes
and all this other shit. To some extent, I might
look at this as a fan in Mexico and say, oh,
(47:23):
that's nice that all the so the gringos they can
just kind of fuck up and do whatever they want
to and they just get back on television. All right, cool,
see how it is? I see what the deal is? Oh,
and what are you gonna give me instead a guy
that weighs one hundred and ten pounds and has no
personality and is a backyard wrestler, going to change that
(47:44):
out for the guy that we like. All right, let's see,
we'll see how that will go. And it went exactly
the way that you thought it would go. So this
is this also should be accluded these people, all right
when it comes to what they're going to do in
their main event picture with this crossover with WWA, all right,
(48:08):
which is now going to be what it is going forward.
It's it's just they them in WWA are going to
slowly start to combine more and more and more. And
by that, of course, I mean ww Town's going to
show up more in TRIPA A probably not, you know,
vice versa. El Grande Americano comes out as a German
(48:33):
guy clearly mocking Luci Leebray singing their songs and I
don't even know the song is tagging and mad Max
for that one, but everybody in the fucking crowd knows it,
and they're cheering for him, and he's meant to be
a dude that's mocking them, all right, Dragonly, I don't
know his history there but dragonly kind of gets a
tep of applause. Don Mysterio is supposed to be the devil.
(48:58):
He's supposed to be, you know, the altar at Rudo, right,
supposed to be the big, big bad guy. Huge reaction. Vikingo.
Vikingo they got coming from the back, and they are
straight up Roman Reign's big dog in this fucking mind,
this little motherfucker. All right, they're like, hey, look here
(49:18):
comes Ray Mysterio raised like go get them, Chap, go
kick his ass, and the people fucking boom. Then they
asked some other guy, I don't know what his name is,
fucking polo shirt mcdonovan, I don't know. And yeah, they
just try and sew trying so fucking hard, trying desperately
(49:38):
to make this into something. This was one of those
moments where they should have done the right and the
match was fine, Like let me just skip pat that
the match was fine, finish was when it was what
the fuck it was? I don't think the people clearly
wanted Vikingo to win. They had no interest in him winning. Right,
(50:03):
Dom should have won this match. I I don't know
who would argue with me about that. I'm not sure
who they would be. I'm not even sure people who
were like Triple A wrestling purists what to say if
(50:25):
I King Go should have kept that belt over Dom,
because if you add Dominic Mysterio, win the belt that
night and Ray come out and Ray be like I'm
gonna embrace him, and he shoved Ray on his ass.
You just made a fucking ton of money. Like you're good,
(50:48):
You're good as gold, You're right his rain, all right.
And I know that I'm naming off some of these people,
and I'm like, I don't know about this one. I
don't know about that one. But if you think Vikingko
Bijingo is your like your start to carry the company
into the future, there's one hundred and twenty pound backyard wrestler,
(51:09):
Like you really think that's gonna be the guy you're
better off, who, by the way, is supposed to be
a baby face, is getting booed viciously out of the
fucking building. You're better off putting the shit on Dom
and then figuring it to fuck out. I mean, really,
you're just so much better off putting it on Dom
(51:32):
for six months and figuring it the fuck out. And
it sure sounds like the Triple A fans wouldn't have
been upset about it. Like I said, maybe some of
the real ww we's doing it. Fucking Twitter fans. Twitter fans,
they're fucking upset about everything. Dude, they wouldn't give a shit.
You let him take that belt, and now he's got
(51:55):
an intercontinental title that he's afraid to defend, and what
else fill in the blanks, folks. He's got an icy
belt you won't defend and the Triple A belt that
he won't defend. Right, he's a heel. He's not heel.
He's one of the biggest heels in wrestling, and like,
(52:16):
even though he was getting a great reaction everywhere he goes,
unfortunately it's at no fault of his own. He's not
coming out with cutesy music, trying to get over doing,
you know, over the top cool guy shit. He's just
so good at being a heel that now people are
(52:38):
starting to like him with his stats. That's how that
usually goes, right. But it was a fucking mistake keeping
the shit on Vikingo Bijingo was a fucking problem all right.
But other than that, but the side and that, everything
(53:00):
was great. No, the match was fine to finish, like
I said, went off, Well, you're pushing forward the AJ
styles story. AJ came out. AJ ran a quick little interference.
It was nice. The crowd got something out of it. Overall,
this was a pretty decent show. All right, So I'm
gonna start making my way out of here. Let me think.
(53:24):
All right, So best match, worst match, I would have
to say. God, like I said, I said a lot
of nice things about this show. The best match was
probably the main event, but that's only because it was
(53:49):
you know, it was doing it was doing what it
was supposed to. But you just have a heel champion
or a babyface champion that people are pulling like a heel,
so you're just never gonna get that correct dynamic in
the match. Then you have two heels that her baby
faces like. It just makes it tough. So technically this
(54:09):
was This was probably the best match from the show,
as it should be as the main event. But even
the fucking the tag match with the Iguana and the
Hamburger as goofy as that fucking was that got the
right heat that it was supposed to get and the
right reaction was supposed to get and had a good finish.
(54:31):
But I think I'll just go with the fucking main
because you know it's not serious. Nobody's gonna fucking no
one's gonna lose their life over this, So I'll go
with that. As far as the worst match, yeah, I'm
going with the women's match that then stunk. That stunk
like fucking Judy six. No, thank you. They gotta figure
something out. This is why Lola, this is why Lolavices
(54:52):
wrestled for like thirty five seconds, can go there and
become a star because she's competing with Flamer and flabby Apatri.
So you're something to fuck out with that women's division
because they should not be long for the television or
the YouTube or wherever the bug the show is gonna stream.
But all right, folks, other than that quick little hour,
(55:15):
I know, I didn't really stay around for a long time,
but you know we'll be back soon. Mission I he
will be home from vacation, and I don't know what
we'll be getting into. I know Rise tonight. I'm going
to watch that, of course, because that's what I do.
And we will be right back here, whether it be
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I'm waiting right now. I gotta send a message to
(56:21):
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But I know this is in thrilling to you guys,
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(56:44):
I'm gonna be watching TNA. I didn't watch any of
the TNA shit. I didn't watch any of the TENA shits.
I saw some of the little clips of it. I
only watch TNA now when big fucking top dollar injures
is Brundle, when he comes up with new innovative ways
to injure his injure his body parts below the waist.
(57:06):
That's what I'm interested in watching TNA. That fucking blob.
Got any faith in your Patriots this season? Yes? Yes, yes,
Well they win the division? Maybe depends depends on what
goes on with the Bills. The Bills stay healthy, you know,
I think they're gonna at least win nine or ten games.
(57:28):
Pat schedule is a fucking joke too, if you go
look at it. They got a lot of softball teams
that they should be able to get through. I mean,
the season opener, they're playing the Raiders, for god's sakes.
It's not it's not much. They're playing a bunch of
teams right now with at best, at best shaky quarterbacks.
Let's call them that shaky. And that was shanky, not
(57:53):
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series of number this is, I don't even know, all right, folks.
(00:22):
So it's just me. I'm the problem. It's me. It's
just Joe Numbers by himself right now. So Mitch is
out of town and I got around to watching this
Triple Mania show. I did about half of it on Saturday, truthfully,
and then I did a little bit more of it yesterday,
(00:42):
and now I finished it up this morning, and I
was like, all right, I'll go on YouTube. I'll get this,
you know, I'll get this show going. I'll do a
little something something, I'll do a quick review and yeah,
I might as well get into it. So it's not
one of these things where you're gonna be sitting there
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We will talk about Triple Mania. I don't know what
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the series of numbers is because I am fucking stupid
when it comes to Roman numerals. What is this? Thirty three?
Is that what it is? Someone's gonna have to fill
me in here. I don't watch it. I don't know.
I'm not Roman or nothing like that, not Roman reigns
or Greek or I really don't care when it comes
to that sort of stuff. It fell out of my brain,
I think in sixth grade. But it doesn't matter, all right,
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So triple A triple Mania. She swear they get that
fucking name from huh Mania. So let's get into this
card all right. First, Actually, no, what fucking fuck that? Alright,
let me make sure I get this clear out of
the way. A lot of people were pretty salty about
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my review for the last Triple Mania because they were,
you know, if you don't understand man, you don't get it.
You just don't get Luca lebre or whatever the fuck,
and you know what. To some extent, I guess that
that's a fair enough assessment. To the extent of I'm
not sitting around and regularly watching all these people all
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of the time. It's just not happening. The other day
I sat on the show that I sat down and
watched an MLW show for the first time in like,
I don't know, two years. I was like, yeah, that
was pretty fun. And there are people that are you know,
wrestling watchers or observers or you know, whatever you want
to call it, commentators or you know, podcasters fill in
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the blank. They have this belief that you need to
watch every single minute of wrestling that is available to
you at all times, or you're just not informed, or
you don't know what you're talking about, or you don't
fully understand it. And what I like to think of
when people have that opinion is that sometimes and you're
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commenting on things you don't need to be you know
somebody that is fully engulfed in it. Okay, I'll throw
it back for you. Guys. There used to be these
two guys named Siskel and Ebert. If you're under the
age of like thirty five, you probably have never heard
of them before. They have movie reviewers, all right, and
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these two guys, for the most part, hated horror movies.
They weren't big fans of the slasher films and all
that other shit. And they were trying to review movies
in the nineteen eighties, primarily in the eighties and I
believe somewhat into the nineties. So they were always put
in this position where horror fans were pissed at them
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because they would say, you know, well, the new Jason
movie is its fucking stupid, or you know, I don't
understand like why Freddy Krueger like playing a guitar at
a kid's starting him or something. Now whatever, the problem
was right, and it was always, oh my god, what
the hell it's wrong with these guys. These guys don't
know what they're talking about. They just don't understand the
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greatness of Child's Play three. And that's where we started
to see like that was like the little beginnings of it.
And people could, you know, bitch about it on forums,
you know, for movies or TV shows or whatever. If
they you know, met up with other fans in public
or in line at the theater. Ah, they don't know
what they're talking about, right, They don't know what they mean,
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they don't know where they're coming from. But the reality
is is if you're trying to make something that widely appeals,
sometimes you're better off having somebody speak to it that
understands what the base of this thing is supposed to
be as opposed to what the niche fandom of it
is going to always enjoy. And you know they're in
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on let's put it that way, they're not in on it, Okay,
So yeah, that happens sometimes in wrestling. I know what
wrestling is supposed to look like. I'll pat myself on
the back and give myself that all right. I know
there's a lot of people that lack humility in the
wrestling space, so I wouldn't be the first person to
have their opinion like that. But I know, for the
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most part, you know what it's supposed to look like.
I also know that some things just don't some things
just don't jive all right. Where there'll be people that
will be into it for five minutes or some people
that will be all about it for six months or
a year, but is there any real longevity to it?
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Probably not, But that leads me to this point, all right.
I gave the last Triple A show a lot of shit,
and this one not so much. I don't. I think
that My biggest takeaway from what was going on with
this card and how this show played out is ww's
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influence is going to slowly but surely help them smooth
out some of the edges on what this product is.
And I'm sure some people will say, what do you mean,
They're going to homogenize it, or they're going to you know,
americanize it, and not fully, but just more so to
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the effect of how's the show going to actually flow?
Who are we going to put on the card. What
are we going to do with these people where we
put them in front of an audience once again in Mexico,
in a different country, a whole other different world. But
at the same time, we're now trying to put in
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WWE names that are you know, for lack of a
better term, or household names. I'm not sure that cars
of brothers are going to you know, ring bells across
the nation. But you see where I'm going, right, how
are we going to incorporate this type of talent into
a lot of people that for the most part, they
work within their niche to say it nicely, but it's
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coming together a little bit more clear, and I think
this show is a good example of that. So anyways,
we start the night off. They did a little, you know,
royal rumble kind of deal. It's called the bar Doll Cup.
Someone's going to have to explain to me what that means,
not going to claim to know what it is. So
the show opens, and of course there's like a nice
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little video package beforehand. Right, Ray comes out, you know,
or Ray pops up on the screen. Ray goes through
a whole deal. He talks about how important Triple Menia is,
right and that leads into this match and a real
solid choice to be the first person to come out
for this you know, royal rumble type match, none other
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than Laparca, which was cool. It was very very cool
to see Laparca. However, this is where we're gonna have
to once again. You know, we're gonna have to revision.
You know, we're gonna have to tighten up this vision.
It's very obvious to anybody with the years that they
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removed copywritten music and have them come out to come
out to stock music that was overlaid with like fake
cheers and everything right, and I wasn't sure what it
was at first. I'm like, Okay, well, you know, what
is this shit music? I don't get it. And the
myths assays to me, she goes, oh, he's coming out
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to thriller, and I go really, She goes, yeah, look
at the dancing. The color you know will follow his
dancers with him. They're doing the thriller moves and shit,
And I was like, oh, man, I didn't even pick
up on that, and lo and behold, googled it and yeah,
he's coming out to Thriller, to which I say, this
was not this was not the last time that happened
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on the show. Okay, Like, let's put it that way.
If you're gonna have the types of triple A shows
where the crowd can only like, oh, the crowd can
hear the music, but the people at home can't hear it. Man,
they have trained the WWE audience to be so singularly
minded when it comes to entrances and how important they are.
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You can't fart out this stock music from back in
the day, like when they would dub over the old
ECW pay per views. You can't do that, especially if
you're trying to build up people. If you're trying to
make these people seem like equals, are trying to seem
like stars, pony up, pay somebody for I mean, I'm
not saying you're gonna get the rights to fucking thriller,
but you know, pony up the rights to something, make
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a fucking you know, make a boot of it, make
a close copy to whatever the music's gonna be, because
it ain't gonna work. Man, It's not gonna work for people.
If you have all these people who now at this point,
you know, as time's going on, the people that are
more regulars on WWE's roster. They're getting better music and
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it's clearly made by real musicians and more popular artists.
And you can't say, okay, well now we're doing the
Luca show and then the guys come out to you know,
it's like, yeah, no, these guys, these guys, they're not
going to get over with a w w WEE audience,
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with a regular everyday w w WEE fan that they're
seeing the ads or Triple Mania. They're seeing the ads
for whatever the next you know, Triple A big show
they want to promote. They got to figure something out.
But Laparka comes out good reaction to that. I will
say my one problem with the new Laparca too tall
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makes the skeleton suit look weird, if that makes sense
all right, where it's like Laparka was a little bit
like he was a stout dude, right, was shorter and
he had to fucking arms, and like it made the
skeleton suit look a little bit snugger and made it
look a little bit better. Yeah, I don't know. They
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gotta kind of figure that a little bit. And that's true,
thank you. To do with the excellent chevroom, yeah fucking no, yeah,
no chair either. I don't know why they didn't have
him do the chair. By the way, it's like, la
park Is the guy with the chair, but Parker is
not the one that's whatever. Folks at this at this point,
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we're just doing like whatever, el heo, sondav rip off
close enough gimmicks. Just come out with the fucking chair.
Make it for the secular WWE audience, because clearly that's
what you're going for. And then you know, there was
a handful of people that came out in this that
I am not familiar with. Of course, until then, I mean,
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I'll just jump into the ww You guys. Otis came
into this, and I gotta say, Otis looked very comfortable
in this setting. It was weird, but it's like, at
the same time, Otis is such a goofy guy that
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to put him into these types of matches, these gimmick
matches where you know, you're slapping your belly and you're
kissing your opponent and shit like that, like he fits
into that so well that this was a hell of
a call. Whoever said, hey, you know, pick a pick
a couple of names out of a hat, pick a
couple of the guys on the roster that we know
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like that can show up and do the deal and
they'll be funny and they'll be entertaining. It's like, oh,
there you go, that's the guy to do it. I
will say, there was a moment in this match and
I gotta I gotta say to the mecha wolf guy,
mecha Wolf, listen to me, buddy. That was very very
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rude of you to stop Otis from coming out of
pant sexual during this match, because he was like ready,
He was ready, man, he was ready to make smooches.
He was ready to come out, you know, live his
best life. I want the world to know. And then
he interferes with them and I'm like, see you look
at Otis. Man. Otis was ready to like be his
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be his true selves, do you know what I mean?
And then this guy dressed like one of the fucking
you know a Misfits cover bands extras, fucking stole that
whole moment. Son of a sound of a beasting And yeah,
oh no, I mean, don't get me wrong, that was over.
That was also really fucking over, which that shows me too.
Otis is really good for whatever. Like I feel like
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he's going to be a guy that I don't know
if he's gonna be in WWE in three years. I'm
not sure if he's gonna if that's gonna be a thing.
I'm not sure how long he's gonna make it. I
know they like him, and I know obviously he can,
you know, plug and play. He can be funny, he
can be intimidating, would need be which you know, sure
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he was pinned by a guy that was two feet tall,
but you know whatever, we'll just ignore that. You can
be intimidating. What do you be? But that's the deal.
Like what do you do? Like? What do you do
with him? In like WWE? For like I said, in
five years, I don't think he'll be around, but I
can safely say he'll be a dude where he'll find
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a space at a TNA, he'll find a place in
you know, Triple A or any of these other spots.
And I'm and I'm an Otis guy. Anyways, I like Otis.
I like what he does. I don't think that everybody
needs to be super serious. And you're also talking to
somebody who was a was a hillbilly gym guy. So
no hate whatsoever there whatsoever, But so whatsoever whatsoever. But
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still Meca wolf Man, fucking come on, dude, grow up.
It's twenty twenty five. Yeah, sometimes, you know, sometimes big
heavy guys want kids, dudes and ladies clothes. It is
what the fuck it is right from Mad Max. Oh,
Mad Max, you could at least have put a message
with it. But thank you for the one bone the
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thugas shruggish bone here. So, by the way, Mad Max,
thank you for showing up. He will be here to
translate and tell me what a fucking cracker ass you know,
honkey dumb ass I am on some of these takes
that I have respectfully though too, I trust him in
a lot more respects than a lot of other people
because I've had these LUTRA related conversations with people once
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again where it's very you know, you just don't you
just don't get it. Mean, I'm like, yeah, I don't know, man.
When I see people bum stumbling around and they can't
fucking take a headlock and they can't run the ropes,
you just don't get it. Man. All right, Well looks
like shit. But you know, Mad Max has been a
good guy routinely about all this stuff, and for fifteen
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years now, I've known the guy, so I trust his opinion.
This is a period a lot of things. So shout
out to Mad Mexan. Thank you for that. Brother. Let's
see what it says. Oh, how could I forget? So
the Big Man, I'm just gonna blow it past some
of these fucking entrances. Who cares? The Big Man? Oh
Moss comes out in this and boy, oh boy, I mean,
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once again, we're finding little spots for these guys that
you know they can't be used or won't be used
on certain WWE shows and programming. But you don't wipe
your ass with the dude that's seven foot fucking ten,
who knows. I mean, he's fucking ginormous. You don't wipe
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your ass with this guy. He's a nice dude. He
treats people well, he's known for being really respectful, wants
to do well, and his shit doesn't look bad. It
looks better than it did in the past. Granted, he
didn't have to do a whole tell of a lot
in this match, but it's nice that they're finding spots
for some of these guys and some of these girls
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in something like a triple A or a TNA. And
I hope they do go in that in that pattern,
they do go into that path, and like I said,
I'm not gonna shoot on this show was hard because
I'm starting to see a little bit more of the
vision of what they want to do with this. Unfortunately,
I'm not sure what they're gonna do with some of
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these people because they're't all gonna make it all right,
And I'll get to that later on in the match.
But yeah, this was fun, man, this was a fun match,
a nice finish. Omas sends up going over because of
course he should. There was a scene in it where
the guy that was two feet tall, which, let me
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tell you, was it a Microman? Was it Microman? Microman?
Mini man? That dude, that's that's a that's a Microman.
Like that's a little fucking dude, man, Like the way
that sometimes wrestling, let's call it what it is, right,
they got tall little people. That happens sometimes you'll see
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it where it's like, ah, it's a little person. You're like, yeah, proportionally,
you know, that's kind of obviously, but they're like four
foot five. I'm like, yeah, they're closer to just like
being an Italian nana than they are like an actual
like dwarf, you know what I mean? Now Microman though, Oho, Microman,
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I'm like looking at it and anything they did with him,
the way he got thrown around, and shit, I'm thinking
to myself, not only is it just visually crazy, it's
visually nuts where you're like, oh my fucking god. I'm
not even talking about the part where they had him
next to Omas, which you couldn't. I mean, you've write
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that down on paper. It's it's fucking it's perfect. He
had his interaction with otis perfect. You had Otis protecting
him so entertaining, really really well done. The way that
they laid that out was really cool and really fun.
And truthfully, when they ended, when Microman finally got out
of there, in my mind him going, you know, fuck
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the Iguana guy, get them get Microman on TV with
American Alpha or whatever they call themselves. Now he should
be I mean, imagine Otis coming down with the ring
carrying him with like a little He's got like a
little flag or something. Oh that's I mean, you wouldn't
do it. I wouldn't say do it weekly, but I
mean that's a fucking that's an attraction, man. You know
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what honestly, just put Omas with them too. Fuck it,
We'll just make the oddities, you know what, Let's just
try to make WWE mildly entertaining again if it's just
gonna be mostly fucking dull. But anyways, back to the
end of the match, Omas won because of course, and
he should and the kudos for that fun opener didn't
feel particularly long, but you know, I think it went
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like fifteen minutes. But they did really well with it,
all right, So anyways, onto this new deal. This was
This wasn't bad, but it wasn't good at at at all.
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This wasn't the worst shit I've ever seen in my life.
I wasn't super embarrassed by it, but yeah, all right,
so anyways, it was he Odell doctor Wagner Junior versus
messiahs or Judas Messiah for he and a fame who
he has gotten older, he has lost the majority of
his musculature, and he wasn't a particularly great worker to
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begin with, and he o Deel Wagner Junior. All right,
let me say this, all right, I really doubt we're
ever going to see that dude on television for WWE
television pretty much ever, unless it's some sort of fluke. Right,
Maybe they'll do like a Survivor series where it's like
a real Survivor series again, not just like one match,
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but a whole show, and they could say Team Triple
A and they do something like that, which could be cool,
which could be fun. But I feel like outside of
the confines of that, you'll probably never see him on
WWE television. Just from seeing how this guy moved around
and worked, wasn't particularly blown away, not really impressive. But
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I will say this his dad who i'd seen doctor
Wagner before. I never really obviously watched much of his matches.
I'm not, like I said, a big Lucha libre guy,
but that guy fucking looks like a star. Like even
as an older man, he just looks put together. He's
got the he's got the tam with the white hair,
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he's got the nice shirt, he's got to watch on like.
He looked good. Like I'm like that guy. I don't
know if his English, if he speaks English, well, I
don't know what you know, because he would just be
a dude really, even as a fucking manager or something.
Because I saw and I go, oh, he he looks
like he could be a star. He looks like he
could be somebody. And yes, people are like, well, yeah
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that you know, that's actually you know Wagner's son, all right, yeah,
and David Flair was Rick Flair's son. Like I'm not
saying he's that bad, but I'm just saying, like, that's
it is. What the fuck it is? Right, Like, it's
not always like you're going to be just the star
that your parents were. Well, I mean, you got to
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think of it this way too. And it's always funny
with wrestling. This happens right where people go, oh, yeah,
but that's so and so's kid, so he's got to
be like a big, big star, right, And he's like, okay, sure.
And then I think to myself, I'm like, hey, when
when does Taylor Swift's mom's album come out? You know,
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is she gonna make some music? Like oh yeah, dude,
it's not the it's not the same, Like it's a well,
I mean, their kids should be as good as the parent.
You're like, there's a lot of kids whose parents aren't
as good as them. That doesn't fucking mean anything, you
know what I mean. It's like Patrick Mahomes' dad played
baseball I know, I don't think he was a Hall
of Famer or anything, but it's like, wow, he was
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more successful than him. Like it's not always a guy,
damn guarantee you right? Oh yeah, Lightnings thing for Ricky
Steamboat's kid, Well, Ricky Steinboat's kid was apparently on his
way to being pretty fucking good. He just got hurt young,
which is really which really sucks because love Steamboat and
if that kid was even half as good as his dad,
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that would have been fucking great. Oh I almost missed this.
Oh coping doom for one ninety nine bones, thank you, Sarah.
Good for Omas and otis better than catering nine. I mean,
I don't want to go back to that match fully,
but no, you're right, like that makes a lot of
sense once again to use these dudes, to put them
in these spots, to give them a shot to do
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a little something, and it stops them, not necessarily from
the show's getting stale. But when it's something like TRIPLEA
where you're going all right once again el Mesias versus
he Ho del Wagner Junior, it's like, yeah, I got
to give you guys something before that. I got to
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put a bunch of people like that, you might wreckon
Omas great, you know otis here. Well, let's put a
fucking smile on your face. We got the you know,
we got the dwarf wrestler, I mean smaller a dwarf wrestler.
So they were like, all right, here's all this fun
shit for you guys that are like a casual audience
that might tune in, because we know we can't jump
(25:37):
directly into this, you know, very Luca eccentric match. I
guess you want to call it that. Yeah, this was
what the fuck it was. And I'm reading the notes
on it right now and it's like, I guess I'msias
is almost fifty years old. Now they're like, oh, he's
moving around good in the ring. I'm like, come on, man,
(25:59):
come on, let's not get crazy. It was. It was
what the fuck it was. I'll say this though, once again,
the fucking dad looks like something. The dad looks like
a star. Well. I once again never heard him, have
never saw a match, never heard of promo, don't know
much about him, truthfully, but the dad looks more like
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a star than most of the people that showed up
on TV that were from TRIPAA tonight, so is what
the fuck it is? All right, So let's move on
to the next match, another match featuring ww B Tallent
Judgment Day versus Lolavice, mister Iguana and the Hamburger Kid
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hamburg Asa, if you will. So, going back to what
I said before, JD McDonough looked like a fucking beast
next to the hamburg An Iguana guy. All right, So
the Iguana guy's got a little bit of hight, Like,
I'll give him that, he's got a little bit of
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height to him. But the Hamburger kid, I'm like, oh,
oh boy, oh boy. You had Otis already earlier in
the show and you're thinking to yourself, Okay, this is
like supposed to be there. Otis, right, but Otis has
at least three facial expressions. So I don't know if
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the Hamburger Kid is going to really make it as
far as the WWE aligned television product. Now, once again,
I'd have to ask people to know better than me.
You know's this guy somewhat over People into him really
down There is a key guy that you keep around
on the show, keep him there regularly because it makes
(27:47):
people happy. But this was this was fine, but also
a reminder why the Judgment Day are people that are
on television weekly for WW and mister Iguana and Hamburger
Kid are a comedy act, you know, and then you
(28:08):
throw a loll of ice in there, which she also
just looks like a TV star. I haven't seen enough
of her recently in singles matches to have like a
particularly strong opinion one way or the other with house
he's doing and how her work looks. But I don't know,
like she's another one where maybe for now she's good
to keep there. And if the Iguana guy's over and
(28:32):
there's a you know, there's an act there and they
can make some money with it. Fine. But Judgment Day
went over, thankfully because it would have been a little
bit fucking silly if they had not. Now, I'm sure
everybody wants me to talk about this part with Finn
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Baylor and the puppet, with Finn pulls out the El Demento,
the whatever the fun because the name of the thing.
He has a puppet now and the puppet's going to
fight the goddamn Iguana. Guys. It's silly. I get it's silly.
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The show is silly. It's not supposed to be serious.
But at the same time it is also a reminder
to me that like, for some of these people that
are showing up and doing this, they're not anybody that's
going to become much on WWE's programming truly, aside from
like Dom at this point, which will get to how
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that main event played out. But yeah, that's kind of
telling like, if they're going to put you on these
Triple A shows at least for now, they don't see
much for you in the future. And if you're Finn
Baylor and you were a guy that was competing for
the heavyweight championship and you were this, you know, serious
(29:59):
prospect coming out of Japan and blah blah blah, blah blah,
and now they're just using you to sell a fucking poppet.
It is what the fuck it is, man, That's that's
kind of the way to put it. And I saw
somebody sent me the puppet on whatever it was, shop
Zone or whatever, one hundred dollars. I mean, this is
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this is where WWE I get it. Man. You want
to you want to scrape all the Nichols, right, you
want to make all the fucking money in the world.
And that's just the point of running a company, and
especially if you want to run a wrestling promotion, but
you're really thinking like you're kicking the impulse by thing
(30:40):
and pushing it, pushing it way to the goddamn limit. Okay,
for those that might not remember this fifteen twenty years ago,
if you were around and you were young enough person
and the Jersey Shore shit was really popular right when
that was all popping off because that was all catchphrases. Right,
oh yeah, cabs are here, t shirt time, all this stuff.
(31:04):
I'm definitely dating myself at whatever. There would be the
cheap shirts that they would sell and Spencer's gifts, or
if you're somewhere where you're walking by on some fucking
white trash boardwalk and they're spraying the shirts similarly to
the white trash board walk where they spray shirts with
the Jersey Shore works. You know, you see what I'm saying.
But they're selling them shits for twenty bucks, right, That's
(31:28):
what an impulse buy is. An impulse buy is something
that you try to get it. You try to drag
people in for whatever one buck, two bucks, five bucks,
ten bucks, twenty bucks maybe right, one hundred dollars is
not getting the impulse buyer's ear even in twenty twenty five.
I mean, I just it's once again this other instance
(31:51):
of like playing to an audience that they would prefer
to exist than one that actually does. But in my mind,
I saw that right, and I'm going, okay, so how
many of those hundred dollars puppets could they sell as
opposed to how many could they sell of twenty dollars puppets?
Do you see what I'm saying? Like they're going like
(32:15):
quality over quantity in this situation. Oh, we're gonna sell
the fucking puppet for one hundred dollars and we're gonna
sell a bunch maybe, Or if you just made the
thing twenty bucks and people fucking popped online, Oh that
was so funny. Oh it's twenty bucks. They're ordering it
with their Apple pay not even thinking about it. But
when you say it's a fucking hundred dollars, I mean,
(32:40):
I think everybody has done that at some point though.
Right where you've been in the store, you know, you
seem like a funny shirt or something, and you're like, oh, hey,
that's kind of funny. You're like, oh, hey, I like that.
That's kind of the cool, and then you flip the
price tag over and you go, not that fucking cool.
I think everybody has done that, and I don't know
if WWE realizes that. I don't even know if they care.
(33:04):
They're just like, hey, fuck it by buy our one
hundred dollars fucking puppet, or go fucking screw Oh my god. Well, anyways,
I guess I should also say this too well on
the topic of wasting money, which you can do is,
of course, go over to our Patreon compex. It's not
(33:24):
a waste of money, you know what I mean. We're
not charging you one hundred dollars for that, bitch. I mean,
if you give us one hundred bucks, we're not gonna
be sad about it. But I would advise you that
to not waste one hundred dollars on a fucking puppet.
I mean really, unless you're a puppeteer. If you're a puppeteer,
have a great time, do you know what I mean? Like,
(33:46):
if that's really your hobby and you're into collecting puppets,
which I've I've known people who were, that's it's not
you know, it is, what the fuck? It is no
different than any other nerdy shit that people are into.
But if you just go funny you spend one hundred
bucks on that ship, you're kind of a fucking roub. Actually, no,
you are a roup. You're a fucking room. Thank you
(34:08):
Dirty Bird for fire Bones. Triple Media made it clear
that the future of wrestling is little people of crustresses
in our digital buppets. Uh, sir, sir, sir. I wouldn't
go as far as to say that's the future of wrestling,
but I will say that this is a lot more
(34:30):
common south of the border. And once again, not a
fucking not a specialist on Lucia Libre or anything that
goes on in the Mexican wrestling seed, but I do
know the exotico thing that's way way more of a
common thing, been around for a really long time. I
don't remember the name of the of the of the
wrestler that was in this match, but I've seen other
(34:52):
ones too that do the whole deal. Yeah, it's kind
of fucking common, man, But yeah, whatever, we'll see what happens.
That very complete blow off of the thing. Yeah, we'll
see what the fuck happens. How about that? All right? So,
speaking of saying also, thank you Dirty Bird five bucks
for that. Thanks Bud. I'll move on to the next match,
which this was a choice Lostcarza's versus Pagano and Psycho Clown.
(35:17):
All right, so Los scarses these guys I would have
predicted a lot more for when I first saw them
show up in ww A. Hector Garza Junior. I believe
that's what they're calling him now. I remember, let's just
call him Ponytail. So Ponytail fucking was a good promo.
(35:41):
I think he's you know, they're both really good looking
kids too. They're both go looking guys, so that's another
thing too. I mean, obviously they got that gold for him.
They're both like these babies. They look like little models,
and they're just like, eh, we've got nothing for you.
Show the fuck up. You guys can have like a
seventy two pack. I mean, motherfuckers talk about Finn Bowler's abs.
(36:04):
What was not Ponytail fucking bull cut bull cut his
fucking Jesus Christ. That guy eat, Holy fuck. He is
absolutely hilariously ripped the fuck up. And I'm thinking to
myself seeing this guy, I'm going, dude, it's great to
getting if you're a wrestler, you want to be in
good a shape as humanly possible, not just for the
(36:24):
aesthetic but for the upkeep of your body. But I'm like,
this guy's this guy's killing himself in the gym for
seemingly very little as far as what WWE has in
the you know, in store of plans for them. But
the guards just came out. They look like stars. Dudes
look like a fucking million bucks. Honestly, I would have
(36:46):
Magne Junior as their fucking manager at this point, honestly.
Fuck it. I mean, I know that he has a
son that's supposed to be a babyface and their heels,
but I don't know. I think that would look good.
I think that would look good as an act, but
I don't know. I'll tell you what doesn't look as
good as an act. I know, and psycho clown folks,
(37:10):
it doesn't get It doesn't get more indie shindy than this.
I'm fucking sorry, man, I'm sorry. They're hitting each other
with fucking plastic, fucking barbed wire like two minutes into
the match. Come on, come on, man, it's fucking corny,
and Corey Grace doesn't even know what to call it
(37:30):
because he knows it's ridiculous. There's parts in it where
you can just hear Conan go like, oh, yeah, I
don't want it, and JBL's like yeah, and JBL's not
even putting it over because I think JBL also knows
it's fucking idiotic for them to be doing that, not
only in a match, but like two minutes into it,
and we obviously can tell it's fucking fake and there's
(37:54):
no blood and the guys aren't really going into it
or selling it, so it's just kind of it's kind
of moot. It's kind of a fucking moot point, right,
But that's kind of the theme of this match. It
was sort of a moot point. It was just your
average kind of street fight deal. I'm just glad that
Pagano and Psycho Clown didn't fucking hurt either of these guys.
(38:18):
There was a table spot where I looked at it
and I go, oh my god, I can't believe I
think it was it was a ponytail. Who is it
that did the fucking power bomb? Whatever, whoever was giving
the power bomb, I'm like, I can't believe he didn't
break his fucking arm. I was genuinely surprised he didn't
break his fucking arm. But yeah, this was what this was,
(38:40):
exactly what it was. It was a different kind of
match on the show. I will call it that. I
think that's a fair enough a fair enough explanation for this.
They didn't have any other kind of street fight tight matches,
so they gave the people a little bit of that.
The guards has reeled it in. It wasn't all over
the top too much, like I said, aside from random
(39:02):
plastic barbed wire for some reason. And yeah, the clown
and Pigano won the thing and took the belt off
the Garzas. So good news for the Garza is they
don't have to wrestle these fucking goofballs. Probably well, I
don't want to say again, they'll probably have another pay
per view. But yeah, this was what the fuck it was,
all right, So here's the match you've all been waiting for, guys,
(39:25):
because I've been largely positive about the show for the
most part, or at least tried to find a lot
of the silver lining in it. So Flamir versus flabby
Apache and an Italia. This thing fucking stunk. I mean,
(39:49):
this sucked. This royally fucking sucked. And I will put
maybe maybe five of the blame of that on Naddy.
And that's only because in my mind, Naddy shouldn't have
given these girls as much as they got. But she
(40:11):
didn't have a choice really in the matter. Do you
see what I'm saying? Like one of the girls, whichever
was I don't know if it was flabby or flamer,
one of the other has a fucking has the belt.
Gives a fuck. This was just slow plotting, awkward. I
love Naddy to this day. I will put over fuck it.
(40:33):
I will say, listen, Naddy is not the person who's
going to sell you a million fucking T shirts. Naddy's
not going to make anybody a millionaire booking her. But
Naddy is going to have fucking great matches, or at
least good matches. Maybe not up until this point interesting
in this, but she's gonna have good matches. She's going
to do the right thing in her matches. And if
(40:55):
you listen to this woman interviewed, you see in thirty seconds,
you see in thirty seconds why she's on the show,
Like why ww we keeps her around? She knows how
to talk, she's very, very like she's, for lack of
a better terms, she's a good politician. She says the
(41:16):
right thing, she knows how to motivate people, she puts
forth the correct attitude. She is the Mama bear, as
they say, and that's a good thing. But this thing, yeah, man,
when people wonder why or at least you know, I
saw some of the aw fans have a you know,
(41:36):
littless pissy fit when Stephanie Vicoor went straight to WWE television.
She didn't drop her you know, Mexican wrestling belts, or
she didn't do this. I'll tell you this much. I
fucking would have done everything I could as a woman
to get the fuck out of there too. Because if
this is, if this is your main event, I guess
(41:57):
you want to call it your main women's talent, What
the fuck is she gonna learn from them? She was
already ten miles past what these women are doing. I
mean aesthetically, work wise, I mean she was just way
way past them overall potential marketability. Is she gonna do? Go? Risk?
(42:20):
Risk there, risk going there and getting sat on by
Flamer and flabby apache Fuck that you got any fucking mind? Yeah?
This thing was, this was this existed, all right. I'm
not even gonna go too deeply into it. I'm sure
I'll piss off some women's wrestling purists that would tell
me that this was good. It was not. There was
(42:41):
some sort of story that goes on with the ref
where the ref's crooked. Is that what it is? Somebody
tell me what that deal is. It's the crooked ref
and he can't make the count and blah blah blah
blah blah that this thing just blew ass completely fucking
blue ass. Yeah, I'm just gonna skip right by that,
(43:02):
and so not great. I will say I feel a
little bit. I feel bad because I didn't watch the
Conan induction speech. I tried to, but they were doing
the deal where he was speaking in Spanish and then
somebody was coming right over it in English, and I'm like, dude,
just put subtitles on. I can't follow it. When people
(43:26):
try to do shit like that, I've seen that happen
on you know, random news shows or whatever it is.
I can't hear two voices at the same exact time
and try to really follows going on in any sort
of way where I'm trying to be like emotionally invested,
let's put it that way, or really focus. It's not
like they interview some dude that speaks Portuguese about a
(43:47):
house fire and he's like, yeah, me and my wife
and my kids were in the house and we smelled
smoke and we ran out the back door like that.
That's fine. I don't need to be super I ort
to be super invested in that. But I would go
back and actually, if somebody had like a you know,
transcription of it, I would go back and read the
speech because I thought, you know, Conyanne handled Ray's speech
(44:08):
so well and so respectfully, and he did such a
great job. And I'm sure Ray did the same exact
thing for him in return the favor. And I'm sure
it was good and it was interesting, and I like
Conan on his show, so I just, like I said,
it was just really hard to follow. It's really really
hard for me to focus and follow that shit. But
I guess now we will move on to I mean,
(44:29):
this is the show went by fast, dude, I will
move on to the main event. So you had VIKINGO
versus Dom versus Dragon Leave versus l Grande Americano. All right,
so let me stretch out a little bit here. I'm
gonna get a little bit of gonna get a little
bit of fucking sauce on me here for this one.
(44:50):
All right, I'm gonna spill a little bit of spill
a little bit of the fucking tea, I guess they
could say, or whatever the hell that means. I understand.
I understand looking at how WWE is right now, why
the fans in Mexico are mad about del Rio not
(45:10):
being there, I get it. And this is why, because
WWA at this point is so far removed from being
able to look at certain people and go, yeah, but
we're not so sure about your behavior, your history, or
(45:35):
your background or whatever. Come on, TKO is in a
position to do that once again. And this is not
me saying like, oh man, del Rio, what a fucking sweetheart,
what a great guy? If anything, I would want fucking
del Rio on my wrestling shows either. But I'm not
(45:55):
talking about what I think and feel and see. I'm
talking about if I was a fan and I really
was like, oh man, this is my favorite wrestler and
you pay to see him and this is your favorite guy,
and they're like, oh yeah, sorry, WWE just they just
don't agree with his past, and they just don't like
(46:16):
the things that he's either done or said in the past.
And then meanwhile I'm looking at him, going, well, you know,
Brock just kind of fucking came back, right and like
he had all this shit on him, right, Well, I
guess I'll ignore that, you know, Hmmm, it's weird. Then
(46:38):
I'm looking around, I'm going, I wonder when and this
seems to be an actual point of conversation. When's Vince
coming back? I'm seeing that more and more. When's Vince
coming back? It's like, oh, Vince, maybe Vince gonna Vince
show up on TV, but no del Rio. Hmm, weird. Right,
(47:00):
By the way, I'm probably missing what a half a
dozen fucking people, you know, dos with their DUI's fucking
guy du s eyes and they're given you know, pushes
and all this other shit. To some extent, I might
look at this as a fan in Mexico and say, oh,
(47:23):
that's nice that all the so the gringos they can
just kind of fuck up and do whatever they want
to and they just get back on television. All right, cool,
see how it is? I see what the deal is? Oh,
and what are you gonna give me instead a guy
that weighs one hundred and ten pounds and has no
personality and is a backyard wrestler, going to change that
(47:44):
out for the guy that we like. All right, let's see,
we'll see how that will go. And it went exactly
the way that you thought it would go. So this
is this also should be accluded these people, all right
when it comes to what they're going to do in
their main event picture with this crossover with WWA, all right,
(48:08):
which is now going to be what it is going forward.
It's it's just they them in WWA are going to
slowly start to combine more and more and more. And
by that, of course, I mean ww Town's going to
show up more in TRIPA A probably not, you know,
vice versa. El Grande Americano comes out as a German
(48:33):
guy clearly mocking Luci Leebray singing their songs and I
don't even know the song is tagging and mad Max
for that one, but everybody in the fucking crowd knows it,
and they're cheering for him, and he's meant to be
a dude that's mocking them, all right, Dragonly, I don't
know his history there but dragonly kind of gets a
tep of applause. Don Mysterio is supposed to be the devil.
(48:58):
He's supposed to be, you know, the altar at Rudo, right,
supposed to be the big, big bad guy. Huge reaction. Vikingo.
Vikingo they got coming from the back, and they are
straight up Roman Reign's big dog in this fucking mind,
this little motherfucker. All right, they're like, hey, look here
(49:18):
comes Ray Mysterio raised like go get them, Chap, go
kick his ass, and the people fucking boom. Then they
asked some other guy, I don't know what his name is,
fucking polo shirt mcdonovan, I don't know. And yeah, they
just try and sew trying so fucking hard, trying desperately
(49:38):
to make this into something. This was one of those
moments where they should have done the right and the
match was fine, Like let me just skip pat that
the match was fine, finish was when it was what
the fuck it was? I don't think the people clearly
wanted Vikingo to win. They had no interest in him winning. Right,
(50:03):
Dom should have won this match. I I don't know
who would argue with me about that. I'm not sure
who they would be. I'm not even sure people who
were like Triple A wrestling purists what to say if
(50:25):
I King Go should have kept that belt over Dom,
because if you add Dominic Mysterio, win the belt that
night and Ray come out and Ray be like I'm
gonna embrace him, and he shoved Ray on his ass.
You just made a fucking ton of money. Like you're good,
(50:48):
You're good as gold, You're right his rain, all right.
And I know that I'm naming off some of these people,
and I'm like, I don't know about this one. I
don't know about that one. But if you think Vikingko
Bijingo is your like your start to carry the company
into the future, there's one hundred and twenty pound backyard wrestler,
(51:09):
Like you really think that's gonna be the guy you're
better off, who, by the way, is supposed to be
a baby face, is getting booed viciously out of the
fucking building. You're better off putting the shit on Dom
and then figuring it to fuck out. I mean, really,
you're just so much better off putting it on Dom
(51:32):
for six months and figuring it the fuck out. And
it sure sounds like the Triple A fans wouldn't have
been upset about it. Like I said, maybe some of
the real ww we's doing it. Fucking Twitter fans. Twitter fans,
they're fucking upset about everything. Dude, they wouldn't give a shit.
You let him take that belt, and now he's got
(51:55):
an intercontinental title that he's afraid to defend, and what
else fill in the blanks, folks. He's got an icy
belt you won't defend and the Triple A belt that
he won't defend. Right, he's a heel. He's not heel.
He's one of the biggest heels in wrestling, and like,
(52:16):
even though he was getting a great reaction everywhere he goes,
unfortunately it's at no fault of his own. He's not
coming out with cutesy music, trying to get over doing,
you know, over the top cool guy shit. He's just
so good at being a heel that now people are
(52:38):
starting to like him with his stats. That's how that
usually goes, right. But it was a fucking mistake keeping
the shit on Vikingo Bijingo was a fucking problem all right.
But other than that, but the side and that, everything
(53:00):
was great. No, the match was fine to finish, like
I said, went off, Well, you're pushing forward the AJ
styles story. AJ came out. AJ ran a quick little interference.
It was nice. The crowd got something out of it. Overall,
this was a pretty decent show. All right, So I'm
gonna start making my way out of here. Let me think.
(53:24):
All right, So best match, worst match, I would have
to say. God, like I said, I said a lot
of nice things about this show. The best match was
probably the main event, but that's only because it was
(53:49):
you know, it was doing it was doing what it
was supposed to. But you just have a heel champion
or a babyface champion that people are pulling like a heel,
so you're just never gonna get that correct dynamic in
the match. Then you have two heels that her baby
faces like. It just makes it tough. So technically this
(54:09):
was This was probably the best match from the show,
as it should be as the main event. But even
the fucking the tag match with the Iguana and the
Hamburger as goofy as that fucking was that got the
right heat that it was supposed to get and the
right reaction was supposed to get and had a good finish.
(54:31):
But I think I'll just go with the fucking main
because you know it's not serious. Nobody's gonna fucking no
one's gonna lose their life over this, So I'll go
with that. As far as the worst match, yeah, I'm
going with the women's match that then stunk. That stunk
like fucking Judy six. No, thank you. They gotta figure
something out. This is why Lola, this is why Lolavices
(54:52):
wrestled for like thirty five seconds, can go there and
become a star because she's competing with Flamer and flabby Apatri.
So you're something to fuck out with that women's division
because they should not be long for the television or
the YouTube or wherever the bug the show is gonna stream.
But all right, folks, other than that quick little hour,
(55:15):
I know, I didn't really stay around for a long time,
but you know we'll be back soon. Mission I he
will be home from vacation, and I don't know what
we'll be getting into. I know Rise tonight. I'm going
to watch that, of course, because that's what I do.
And we will be right back here, whether it be
on YouTube or any of the To go subscribe, go
(55:39):
subscribe to our podcast and all of the different audio
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(56:00):
lot of the times they're just pitched because we're not like,
I don't know fucking Pat McAfee or Joe Rogan or
some shit so fucking embarrassing. Let me see, you know what,
all right, maybe I'll take a I'll take a couple
questions and then I'll get the fuck out of here
because I'm so important I need to be asked questions.
I'm waiting right now. I gotta send a message to
(56:21):
the wife ski real quick. Let's see finishing up the show.
But I know this is in thrilling to you guys,
but we gotta go do our volunteer work. Do we
do on Monday nights? You know? Parole guys, right, ha ha, No,
I'm just fucking run. Let's see nowadays, you never know, see,
(56:44):
I'm gonna be watching TNA. I didn't watch any of
the TNA shit. I didn't watch any of the TENA shits.
I saw some of the little clips of it. I
only watch TNA now when big fucking top dollar injures
is Brundle, when he comes up with new innovative ways
to injure his injure his body parts below the waist.
(57:06):
That's what I'm interested in watching TNA. That fucking blob.
Got any faith in your Patriots this season? Yes? Yes, yes,
Well they win the division? Maybe depends depends on what
goes on with the Bills. The Bills stay healthy, you know,
I think they're gonna at least win nine or ten games.
(57:28):
Pat schedule is a fucking joke too, if you go
look at it. They got a lot of softball teams
that they should be able to get through. I mean,
the season opener, they're playing the Raiders, for god's sakes.
It's not it's not much. They're playing a bunch of
teams right now with at best, at best shaky quarterbacks.
Let's call them that shaky. And that was shanky, not
(57:53):
shanky shaky. All right, I gotta go buy buys in
the car. Guys, thank you once again. Make sure to
do all the ship subscribe, hit the sub button, you know,
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something good like that. In this economy, you know what
I mean, what could go wrong? Guys? You know right now,
don't worry. All right, it's gonna all come out in
(58:15):
the wash. You're gonna find a way to make money.
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