November 28, 2025 • 58 mins
00:00 - Intro & Wrestling Soup Banter
00:35 - John Cena & Becky Lynch Podcast Drama
01:19 - Seth Rollins and John Morrison Comparisons
02:33 - Becky Lynch’s Industry Revelations
09:08 - Polygamy, Relationships, and Seth’s Past
11:31 - Will Ospreay, Wrestling Risks & Injuries
16:00 - Partying, Addiction, and Life Choices
18:51 - Survivor Series Preview
29:00 - Petco vs. PetSmart & Cat Food Tangent
33:36 - Survivor Series Women’s Match Breakdown
46:42 - Men’s War Games Match Analysis
51:00 - John Cena vs. Dominic Mysterio
53:20 - Fantasy Booking: Lumberjack Strap Match
55:30 - Thanksgiving Wrap-Up & Outro
56:17 - End of Show
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00:35 - John Cena & Becky Lynch Podcast Drama
01:19 - Seth Rollins and John Morrison Comparisons
02:33 - Becky Lynch’s Industry Revelations
09:08 - Polygamy, Relationships, and Seth’s Past
11:31 - Will Ospreay, Wrestling Risks & Injuries
16:00 - Partying, Addiction, and Life Choices
18:51 - Survivor Series Preview
29:00 - Petco vs. PetSmart & Cat Food Tangent
33:36 - Survivor Series Women’s Match Breakdown
46:42 - Men’s War Games Match Analysis
51:00 - John Cena vs. Dominic Mysterio
53:20 - Fantasy Booking: Lumberjack Strap Match
55:30 - Thanksgiving Wrap-Up & Outro
56:17 - End of Show
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Wrestling few for a mature audience. The models. If you
ever take a true.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Down in Carr County, Georgia, you better read the side. Respect.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
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Speaker 1 (00:31):
So hearts that.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
You're not a steak car gonna make you work. You
better watch alboy, You'll be so.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Jing wrestling soup.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah right, I figured we're just going to do a
fucking Frank guys, you're gonna soup tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Apparently, Oh it does matter. We've got well for Frank
and Gust tomorrow. We've got a bunch of voicemails coming in.
We got a full on shipbox tomorrow, kind of addressing
some of the John Cena stuff, and I'm kind of
looking forward to that. I haven't even gone through with that,
but we got like ten or fifteen already, so it
should be nice little throwback to the shipbox era. If
(01:36):
you haven't gotten in, you know, check on the Patreon
the voicemail pages up there. It's ready to go. But yeah,
I'm I'm Anthony.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Is the scene of stuff as you're mentioning here? Is
that related to the Becky ship that she said on
no Podcast? No?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
You know what I was going to get into that too.
I don't. I don't even know if I feel like
getting into all that. I mean, I guess we.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Can as a lot. It's a lot, but like I've
only seen that one clip, and I'm gonna tell you,
anybody that's still in twenty twenty five is like Burt
Kreischer is funny, Burt Kreischer is a good guy, Like
he's a good interviewer. I'm like, you are fucking you
are a moron, good fucking god, Like just that thirty
(02:21):
second clip with Becky, And I don't know if everybody
has seen it and knows what I'm referencing, but obviously
you know what I'm talking.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
About, right, Yeah, I was, well, I didn't actually see
the clip, right, like I have the thing loaded, but
I read the story. I read the interview, and I
got through some of it, like the first like ten
to fifteen minutes. I think it's like almost an hour
and a half or hour and forty minutes with Bert,
Bert Seth and Beck's.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
At this. I mean, in this trio, Becky is truly
like she is carrying the water in that situation, speaking
of like mommy carry in the world like that that
woman is doing they have you labors my talent in
that situation. My god, Yeah, she's good at interviews. I'm
not a big fan of Seth. Like, we've had this
(03:11):
conversation before and I'm and I remember us talking. I'm
trying to remember exactly who it was. I think it
might have been John Morrison from way back in the
day me and you talked about this where John Morrison
for the most part, and this was back when he
kind of started discovering his cool guy shtick in w
w W during his last run, which was kind of
(03:32):
working with him and obviously them is and they work
well together, but it was always funny to me that
he's kind of a guy that gets passed over because
he's not a great promo and there's like this point
to him where it's like, oh, it's just he's not
that guy that's interesting to people. Yet when he does interviews,
the guy can just talk. And I think we've done
that before too, where it's like it's amazing where you
(03:53):
have these performers that you're constantly saying, oh, look they're
on TV, they're kind of awful, and like maybe they're
different real life, and then you get to real life,
and it's like, oh wow, what an interesting interview. They
can talk, they can have camaraderie, they tell jokes, they
have life stories and lessons for people. Seth is not
one of those guys. Seth, you know, he's just a showed.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
There's no flip side, there's no you know, he's He's
the Campbell's guy right about now, you know, like that's
what he is.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
It's uh, I'm not terribly surprised, and I've just I've
found him to be grading obviously as a performer and
as a person for a very very long time. And
then to combine that with Bert and I guess for
those who don't know what moment I'm referencing, I mean,
I guess we could go through some of the details
(04:46):
that have been on the show myopically. But the big
news story that came out of it was Becky basically
insinuated that there was an important guy in the company
that she was warned that you know, if she's if
he he tried to have sex with her, that it
would be a problem. And then she said yes, it
would be a problem. And if she said no, And
(05:07):
while she's basically talking about sexual blackmail, occurring on her job.
Bert Kreischer is going with his fucking shirt off. It's like,
you fucking loser. God, this guy sucks. God, he sucks.
And by the way, SE's like laughing too, of course
this is going on. He's like yes, And when someone's
(05:30):
trying to blackmail my wife for sex, it's like, you're
both fucking pussies. I hate these guys so much, so much,
like you're just not in any capacity, Like your wife's
saying this and you're like chuckling about it. And then
Bert Kreischer is like, I don't even to prescribe what
a fucking loser that guy is, but yeah, what a bit.
(05:52):
I don't know. If somebody has the audio, I know
you said you.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Haven't heard Yeah, no, no, if somebody has ahead, throw that
up and I'll edit it in here.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
What fucking moment. What a moment. And I mean that
in the worst possible way, right, I don't know. And obviously,
like when you said we you know there was Scena stuff.
I'm like there were some people being like, was the
guy John Cena? Was it John Cena that would do that?
And I'm like, hmmm, really you put him even anywhere
(06:21):
on that list. As far as like the guy that
would try to I don't know. I have a feeling
that that might have gotten out with old Johnny boy.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yeah, I mean, it's just it's a girls situation when
you start thinking about this stuff underneath the Vince McMahon era,
but what he turned out to be and and all
the accusations and stuff that's coming out. I wouldn't be
surprised if more of this shit comes out, Like I mean,
the Speaking Out movement was a big deal, and I
(06:51):
don't want to sit there and point fingers. I don't
think it's John Cena, you know what I mean? Like,
but I don't fucking know. Nobody really knows unless somebody's
going to actually name drop. But it's like you're on
a comedy podcast, knock on Wood, for whatever it's worth,
it's like that. It's just a weird, weird place to try.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
It's a weird choice moment. And then obviously I saw people,
you know, commenting on it, being like, hey, how about
you just tell us who the fuck it is at
that point, Yeah, And I can't disagree with them, right
if you think about it, Like if you think of it,
you know, So here's what's what was.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Said, right, So I have the actual written transcript. It
was ringside News. I think that's what I posted it.
At the same time, it was also stay away from
the boys, don't go near the boys. No, stay away
from the boys. But of certain things, like I'm not
going to name names, but there was a guy in
the main roster who's like, quote, be careful, be careful
because if one he'll try to sleep with you, and
if he sleeps with you, he'll blacklist you. And if
(07:50):
he tries to sleep with you and you don't sleep
with him, he'll also blacklist you. So there was this
line that you had to walk this tightrope. You know
him definitely, but anyway, at one point it was like
how do you walk this line of you know what
I mean? So there was always this thing of if
you get into a relationship and things go south, they're
not going to fire the guy. They're always going to
(08:12):
fire the girl, you know. So it was a very scary,
scary thing. And I mean like, that's a that's a
we've heard that over the years, and I'm sure you've
heard a lot more stories of that, you know, but
it's just it's kind of weird that you put that
out in the open, and it's like, I don't know,
like what the purpose was. I guess now that she's
(08:33):
so far removed from it, maybe that's why she brought
it up, but I it's just I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
And she's saying it once again on Burt Chrysiers.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Yeah, that's why why you're on the shirtless fucking Mongoloid's
podcast and you're like, yeah, this is the time to
to tell people some serious shit, and like, I don't know,
it was just presented really, really badly.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
If she did this on Stephanie's podcast.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Oh well, she prot That's another thing though. Where I'm
sitting there, I'm going and she said this on Stephanie's
and I'm like, well, is that because she thinks there's
going to be a real problem with it? But I'm like,
do you think this is just going to go away?
It just doesn't make any sense. It really doesn't. And
I'm once again, like I said, Becky has every right
(09:28):
to fucking talk about this situation. If she felt a
sort of way, it was just a better time and place.
I mean, didn't you just write a book like that?
Is this in the book? Somebody please correct me if
I'm wrong. Did she mention this in the book and
she just brought it up and only people that I've
read about, But if she did, I would have fucking
(09:49):
sworn somebody would have reported that by now, wouldn't you
think I have the book.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
I've skimmed the book. I did not read too deeply
into the book, and I don't remember that. I don't
know for what that's worth. Like, there are books that
I will sit there and read cover to cover and
kick my my socks off and kick my feet up
in the air and really get into. And there are
some rustling books that I'm just like ah, and Becky
(10:15):
unfortunately fell into the edge category of books to read.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
So yeah, the only thing that I've seen from Becky's
book was like that weird fucking chapter where like that's
semi gaslighting her about winning a title or something, and
I'm just like, God, this guy sucks. God, it sucks
so fucking bad. But oh what a still, what a
weird moment. And then by the way, like Bert thinking
(10:40):
he can make a joke out of this, Oh.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Of course it was uncomfortable. He had to make a.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Joke, Yeah, of course, Well no, but like thinking, which,
by the way, yes I get it being uncomfortable, but
like Bert thinking he can make a joke out of this.
He goes, oh, is it Cody rhoadsay, because he's friends
with Cody, and like he knows Cody, and I'm like, yeah, dog,
not the time.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Not the time.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
She too was voke Christ the name of the most
popular guy, and you know, the champion of the company
who idiosy idiousy all around. It's like Set's an idiot
for being there laughing.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Well here was the other bit too, So I mean,
if you want to talk a little bit more about
that interview, the other piece that made the news that
was rounding the bases with Seth was he was talking
about polygamy was the answer before he started dating Becky
Lynch and said I was going through an existential romantic
(11:41):
crisis at the end of twenty eighteen where I thought
polygamy was the answer, and she was guiding me through
this as a friend. I became single, she was single,
and then I was starting to make some Hey, maybe
we should fool around a little bits, Maybe we should
be more than just friends. Casual, you know what I mean,
very casual. No, I'm like you know what, I just
(12:01):
think you're hot. Let's hang out in tongue kiss or something.
I was in yeh, gosh.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I was.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
I love that. That's how he describes his gay like, Hey,
you know you're hot.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
I'm hot.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Can I drool in your mouth a little bit, you know,
with friends like casual.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Like But by the way, thirty year old man, thirty
year old man, By the way, I'm gonna fuck my
voice up again because I'm just laughing, engrossed out by
the level picture thirty something your old guy to be like,
needs to hang out in tongue kiss. I'd be like,
pull out the mace, immediately.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Pull out the Joey doesn't mean the spray. He means
the giant metal ball with spikes on it.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
It just swinging around three times. Let it go, dude,
Holy fuck. But by the way, I know I've seen
enough data. I know we're not a gal heavy show
audience here or whatever. But like, ladies, if any guy
says that to you, get the fuck.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
In his thirties. You want to listen to music, and
you want to listen to my new Creed album.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
You should come over to my house and hang out.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
What do you want some coffee. Mom picked up snacks
for this. We got krees in this this ridge seller.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
We could talk about my old girlfriends.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I want to talk about bands, my old girlfriend. Yes,
you want to talk about me fucking other people. But
by the way, like you know.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
It's really not as small as it was on Twitter.
I'm just you know.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
But by the way, if you think about it, in
that moment, whether she realizes it or not, she really
did save his fucking his career, his life, Yeah, life too,
I mean because because let me tell you, if that dumbuck,
he's a dumb fucking guy, let's be real, he is
not a.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
How do you fucking as a half flatin dude, how
do you end up dating a fucking a card carrying
Nazi like people. People joke about the term the girl
that he was fucking whoa what was her name? Sahara?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Zara? Zara was taking Instagram filtered picture swastip on her.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Wall like little my little pony with fucking swatska. It
was like, what the fuck are you dealing?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Nations? Yeah, out my bedroom and she wants also like
is she is she an edgy teenager or is she
also an adult? Like this is right, this is what
blows my fucking mind. Like that's some ship. Like the
look I was sat on the thing like, it's like
that's what a kid would do in like middle school.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Right, Edgy, whoa, you're fourteen, Wall that's crazy?
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Whoa anarchy? Simple, dude, you must believe in chaos and craziness.
You're a wild man. You don't abide by the rules. Dude. Meanwhile,
like ye, meanwhile he wants to tone kiss and take
baths with action figures.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Still, maybe maybe that's what his game got him, Joe.
Maybe it's that level of game that just ended him
up with a with a hot Nazi. I don't know,
it's just.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
You know what, could you picture that where he's sitting
there and man, I guess the Nazi didn't work out.
I guess that's it for me.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Maybe thought Becky was part of the IRA. Who knows, Joe,
It's just.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
It turns it turns out, dude, that's amazing. Where there's
this guy who's made like fucking millions of dollars and
has traveled the world and he's just like, well, I
guess the Nazi didn't work out for me. All that's
left now is becoming a polygamist. Shut up, you heard.
(16:15):
By the by the way, she definitely, like I said,
she saved his fucking ass, because there's no way he
would have been smart enough and competent enough to have
actually have like had real level adult conversations with these people,
and he would have just ended up fucking wrestling fans
(16:35):
and they would have thrown him under the bus and
somebody would have said he did something wrong to him
in his career. Would have been in the fucking toilet. Yeah,
you can't tell me that was not a trajectory. If
he thought he could, oh yeah, he could just do that,
it's like, yeah, dude, do you remember.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
He would have been a Tyler Black and a w Right, Like,
that's what it would have been. You're not wrong.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
He would have showed up and been like, I didn't
do any of that. Watch me do the Phoenex spleache again,
a fleen ex splinch.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
God, he would have been. He would have been the
fucking will Osprey of aw. He really would have. It
would have been like switching out, like where did the branch?
Where did the butterfly effect happen? Becky Lynch, Becky Lynch
saved us from Will Osprey rollins.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah, saved us. He kind of actually would have done
us a favorite well, no way. I mean in that moment, which,
by the way, like this is such a different level
than Becky being like, you know, oh, I was basically Epstein.
It's funny, but did you see the whole thing with
Ospray where he got into a fight with Cornette because
(17:52):
Osprey posted some fucking clip of kids doing backyard wrestling
and he's like Dutch Kube, I'll think Brev and Cornet's
like these guys are like hurting themselves for nothing, and
Osprey's like, now he's awesome. He's fucking Koup Brev. It's
like this guy is thirty and getting his neck fused.
(18:16):
It's like, what how do you think you got there?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
I mean, if you're taking will Osbury's life advice, maybe
maybe you should, maybe you should fall off of something.
I don't know, it's just you idolizing the wrong people.
If children are idolizing what will Osprey has to say,
then chances are they need better heroes in their life.
(18:41):
You know.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
The sad thing is the sad thing is these aren't children,
these are man children. What this is?
Speaker 1 (18:46):
What you want, They're not gonna fuck into it anyways,
what are you going to do fall off their chair.
I was trying to reach for my mountain doing and
tongue kiss my totally real girlfriend over here.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yeah, well a Spry's oh tongue case brev Well, Mike
smoochiesh with Mike Brothers. No, by the way, like you
and I were enough in the same generation that we
remembered the first group of fucking ecstasy zombies, right, oh yeah,
remember those people were like, you know, they were doing
(19:19):
they were going to raves and shit, and people were
doing ecstasy with us.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
You know.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
At first they're like, yeah, this is just fun and
getting fucked up. But then you started to see the
people that it really really fucking screwed up. You're like, oh,
people didn't see those, you know. And then obviously the
shit went away for a while, and then they repackaged
it as Mollie and people are like, oh yeah, and
(19:43):
then they got fucked up because they don't remember what
it was. But like right now, the spot monkey wrestler
fans and people they might have forgotten because they were
removed enough from like Benoir or the guys that just
were doing that shit that died. They just died. They
died of drugs. They were drug addicts. They died, and
(20:05):
they were like, oh, well, I guess you can just
do that kind of wrestling and nothing bad will happen
to you. But now it's like, look at Kenny Omega, right,
he looks like a boiled sack of fucking potatoes. It's
like hell. And then you see well Ospray and he's
thirty and he's getting surgeries that are like fucking like
(20:26):
NFL players get that with that in their fifties.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
You know, some people just don't get it though either though,
you know what I mean, Like in this case, when
you're really presenting it like that, well, Osprey just might
be a guy who watched Mick Foley fall off of
a fucking cage and thought to himself, that's cool, and
continued to do it and never really thought even though
he's getting his spine fused, never really thought, man, maybe
(20:51):
I shouldn't have done it. Maybe I shouldn't have idolized
a guy who damn near killed himself as a freak
of nature. Like, it's not everybody's going to come to that,
you know, moment of clarity, not everybody's going to come
to that Jesus moment where they realize maybe I shouldn't
be doing this in my forties. You know.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
It's just well, there's also this like element of it
too that it just frustrates me where I look at
it and I go, Okay, I understand not being adult
enough and maybe you haven't seen enough shit happen to
where in your mind you're like, you know, IF's a
summer forever party goes on for we're just gonna party
(21:32):
every day, and you're like, no, dude, just does and
you can't be doing this to yourself. Like I get
it to some extent, but the evidence is all there.
You see it, and like.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
If you don't fucking realize that, though, dude, how many
how many guys do we still sim and maybe not
even still, but how many guys were left over from
e CW a decade plus after ECW was gone trying
to relive those fucking glory days. It's like, at this point,
fifteen years later, you're just smashing an old man in
the head with barb wire. That's what you're doing, you
(22:08):
know what I mean. Like, so it's not even like,
oh my god, how can will Osprey say this shit,
It's there's a lot of wrestlers that don't let that
go and think that the greatest thing that ever happened
in their life was falling through a light tube table.
I mean, what the fuck are we.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Going to do at this point? There's like five guys
left from E C W if that, and one of
them's Tommy Dreamer. He looks like a body that was
washed up after a tsunami.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Oh did you see that Raven interview with Jericho? He
did the talker Jericho because Raven's got a new book out.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Oh no, I can't even imagine that.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
I'm you know what or he's got I don't know
if it's just a book of it. I think it's
a DVD too, but I mean, yeah, I don't know, dude.
It's it's sad, But stop idolizing wrestlers, like stop immediately
believing that wrestlers have the answers to fucking life, even
in wrestling. I think the best thing to do is
take a look at the people that didn't actually have
(23:04):
to step into the ring. They're probably the ones, or
at least not stepping in the ring on a weekly
basis or whatever. They're probably the ones that have a
better understanding of what the business really is, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Or how about just the fact of the risk reward
aspect of it right where we all understand. Like I said,
a couple of weeks ago, I went and I saw
the old Patriots player with Vince will Fork, and I
was like, yeah, he moves around like fucking Foley does.
Now he's an old, old, big guy, a four pound
(23:37):
fucking NFL player. You know, he's moving around and it's rough.
But old Vince is a multi millionaire dude. He's not hurting.
I mean, he's might be physically hurting, but he's not
hurting financial. But he did a lot to himself. But
I'm pretty sure the motherfucker's got some rings. He's got
seven figures in the bank. He's done okay for himself.
(23:59):
But the message is predominantly from a guy even like Cornett,
but just people in general. I feel like that are
trying to talk sense into these guys where it's like,
you're not going to walk away set up enough in
life that you can even justify doing all this to yourself.
You know, Like there's a lot of dudes that were
(24:21):
trades Like I have an old friend of mine did
welding and shit, and you know, he would have he
would make a lot of money, but he'd have to
retire by like fifty something because his body wouldn't hold
up right right. He would get he would have lung problems,
he'd have heart problems, because like all the chemicals, like, yeah,
there's a risk, there's a reward. It's like, yeah, he's
(24:44):
the only dude you know in his twenties that's making
six figures at that point. But that's because motherfucker had
to be done. He'd have to be done by a
certain age because he just couldn't do it anymore. And
I think the message is supposed to be from like
you know, from Corny obviously, but I think for most
people where it's hey, you're going to do all this
(25:04):
crazy shit to yourself, But what are you going to
do when you're fucking forty five? Do you have anything
when you're forty five years old? Do you have a
paid off house?
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Well? I don't think a lot of them, but I
mean this is and like you're pointing out, even outside
of wrestling, but I mean a lot of people are
like that. They live those glory days of their career,
and they think that that's going to echo throughout time,
and it's like, no, man, that shit disappears a lot
faster than you think. If you don't have a trust fall,
if you don't have a windfall, it's going to be
(25:35):
a very difficult twilight, you know. And that's what you see.
People like will Osprey are pretty much echoing the sentiment
of yeah, no, go ahead and fall off as something
that's really cool. Live those days and keep doing it because.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
When you're a teenager, because your body doesn't get hurt
when you're a teenager. It's like, that's the craziest shit
I've ever heard, dude. There's do you know how many
people I know? And by the way, myself included. I
fucking dislocated my knee and my teens and then I
had a shitty kneed going forward right, and then I
kept dislocating it. Then I tore my acl Like it's like, yeah,
(26:12):
that's how it goes, dude, Like you you just think, like,
I don't know, maybe in his mind he's like, oh,
when I was sixteen, I didn't get hurt, And you're like, dah,
but that's you can't base that advice or that idea
for everybody. And also in that moment for him to
just say that to like and I get it. He
(26:32):
doesn't have influence really that much, so, but more so
than the average person to where him to be like, yeah, no,
trying this at home.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
It's like, are you really yeah, because he thinks he
romanticizes what the fuck he's doing, that's what it is.
He's he's in his own little dream cloud, Joe, and
he believes that this is this is something that everybody
can share. Everybody can have this great career, everybody can
have these great moments. Everybody can look at Rustling through
the same rose colored glasses that he does. And it's like,
(27:02):
you got somebody like Jim going, what are you fucking stupid?
Like no, it's just he's he's oblivious as to how
much weight his words carry, you know.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
But well once once again, like we're not living in
a world where wrestling is new. And I used I
used the fucking ecstasy example because you know, when we
were you know, teenagers and young adults, the ship was
a drug that people hadn't seen before. And by the way,
this goes back to hippies I'm sure too, where they
were like, yeah, dude, we're just all getting fucked up.
(27:35):
This ship rocks. We don't go we're getting into fucking heroin.
And then people started dying and they were like, wait, what,
well that happens. Yeah, well that's a part of this.
It's not just we're I'll have them fun. It's like, no,
you can die from this. Wait, shit, I didn't sign
up for that. It's like, well, unfortunately you did. That's
(27:56):
that is a part of it, just the same exact
way where it's like people sit around and like they go, well,
I'm twenty five and I'm a bit, you know, a
big fat fuck and I don't fucking remotely pay attention
to my diet, and it's like, yeah, your body's gonna
feel a lot different in ten years. Ah well, I
would fucking say that to me. Where that's fucking mean
and you're like, no, that's it's once again, it's just
like it's just reality, right. And by the way, I
(28:20):
still I follow the Dug Stanhope method of looking at
this shit. You could say that there's such thing as addiction,
but then there's also just things that some people like
doing more than being alive. And if you're accepting that,
if you're like, hey, listen, like I've known, we've all
met these fucking people right where they're just drunks to
(28:42):
the bone or just fuck ups to the bone, and
they're like, yeah, I'm just gonna die this way. And
you go, well, that's fucking sad. But then you realize
you're like, no, this is to some extent, like yes,
it's you want them to get help trauma, they need
to get some sort of treatment for it. But there's
(29:04):
a part of them where they're like, no, this is
just me, Like this is this is what I see
as my whole life and my identity is I'm the
guy that sits around and drinks until I fucking piss
myself and I'm gonna die that way. You're like, wow,
am I gonna tell you otherwise?
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Right, that's your decision.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
And it's and by the way, like that's Darby Allen's
view of professional wrestling. So when people go, oh, Darby
Allan's a fucking you don't understand, man, he's a cool
guy on the edge, I go, no, he's literally no
different than the guy that they have to push out
and he's frank Gallagher. He's Frank Gallagher with a fucking
spotlight and an entrance, all right, Like the dude's gonna
(29:47):
fucking end up hurting himself and or severely injuring himself,
and he's gonna be like, yeah, well I went out
on my shield. And it's like, well, all right, at
what point do people say, enjoy your shield?
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Right? Right?
Speaker 2 (30:01):
I guess it's the only option, right, Enjoy your shield, motherfucker.
But it was a thirty year old man.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Talk about Survivor series going into it. We've got a
couple of men that.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
We were just talking about.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Yeah, I mean really, Lord, Survivor Series Live Saturday, twenty eighth,
San Diego at the Petco Park. Oh awful name for
a fucking arena. Pet COO.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Are you a pet Co guy or a pet Smart guy?
Which one of you?
Speaker 1 (30:29):
I'm ay whoever has the cheapest kitty cat food on sale?
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Guy?
Speaker 1 (30:34):
No, I'm not. I'm not really that bad. Actually, we
just went to uh, I think it was pet coll
the other day and we started trying the just different
they have like this satin dark food, so it's like
it's kitty food after dark. And the differences is they
have like more gravy and like succulent carrots and like
(30:55):
all these crazy vegetables. I know, carrots, crazy vegetable, but
it's just like mushrooms in there and shit, and uh, well,
because we try to keep our cats because I feel bad.
I don't know if you're this kind of a cat owner,
but I know they love the Nine Lives. Love it,
like nine lives. I could put down a can of
that shit and they're like thanks Dad, and then they're
(31:15):
just fucking into it.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Oh well, that's because some of that shit's McDonald's too.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Oh it is, that's right, But you feel bad giving
them nine Lives. And I don't care how many flavors
they have. And they have a ton of flavors, right, No,
pat they fucking hear Patie. But if it's got gravy
or it's got shreds, oh, cats are both down. But
I feel bad always giving them the same things. And
(31:39):
it's like in my mind, I'm like, well, I have
a more complex palate, my wife has a more complex palette.
Maybe the cats. Maybe the cats have a more complex palate.
And so there's times that we go out and we
try all these different foods and they're like ah, this
is gross. They seem to love fancy feast though. They
love their fancy feast, fancy.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Feast as a fucking crowd pleaser.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Oh they hate. But the other big one, the other
fucking high falutin cat food that they hate. Though. Have
you ever tried sheba? Not you, but have your care.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
That was okay, I'll be I'll be honest. It was
just alright. I wasn't great, you know, I had it
in a sandwich. It was okay. No, no, I believe me.
I've seen well, dude, the Sheba to the servings of
it are like a symbol.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Yeah, so it's a fancy feast. It's the same thing,
like the Sheba coming in the little plastic like tubes
that you just squeeze out, one tube per animal. It's
so pretentious. It's like even the cat on the cover
is like this perfectly maintained white coat, or or you
have the black coat kitty and the eyes are spark.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
I girlfriend, yeah, oh she would, yes.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
But it's like I always feel bad for the cats.
So we go to like pet Co and shit like that,
and we try all these different cat flavors. But yeah, no,
as far as pet companies, and stuff. I usually get
them whatever the fuck is on sale, but every once
in a while Dad will go out there and try
and get them all these crazy cat foods. We tried
the cat food that they sell. They the fresh pet
(33:18):
is that what it's called. They have it for dogs, right,
like they have one thousand and one different types of
dog food and the fresh dog food. But the cats
they just get one tube. There's just one ground beef
looking tube. And the cats were cool with it for
like a week and ever since that, and then of
(33:38):
course the tube is like forty dollars, you know. I
was like, oh, it's just throw out this forty dollars
worth of cat food. Although that's what we've done now,
is all the cat food that they don't like, all
the fresh shit or like the blue ribbon top shelf
stuff that we buy for them. We just donate it.
But we always feel like assholes because it's like, oh,
we just Mama just spent sixty dollars on your on
(33:59):
your two cans of cat Oh you don't like it.
Oh that's too bad.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
So anyways, well I will I will say, though, you
gotta get when you're not living in the city, get
just do Chewy Chewy is fucking great.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Yeah, chewy chewy stuff. I used to do Chewy because
I'd have those assholes deliver the forty pounds of fucking litter.
And so I get like fucking six of them, and
I just know I'm making some asshole sweat as he's
literally dropping off plastic crates full of fucking shit tickets
for cats.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Yeah, just like one of these dead bodies.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
It's not even a box. They just literally dropped off
six of them, stacked them up against the fucking back
door and said there you go. And I was like, okay.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
By the way, I like Vinnie Macki's like cat food
made by TKO. I'm like, yeah, just every month it
goes up for no reason.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Oh yeah, sure does. Flips ratings are down. Uh the
uh Survivor series show. We have four matches on the card.
I don't think there's gonna be a fifth, but who knows.
We got Stephanie Vickare versus Nicky bella singles match for
the women's World Championship.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Joe, uh boy. I really am hoping that they don't
put Nikki over in this. I just I don't. I
don't put anything past them at this point with that
type of title changes and with the women and the
core seems nice enough that she'll put up with anything,
so nothing will surprise me. But this needs to be
(35:37):
seven minutes tops. Stephanie goes over clean as a fucking whistle.
That's what needs to happen. Would I be surprised if
she did it? I?
Speaker 1 (35:46):
No, No, Do you think? Do you think the major
weapon comes out?
Speaker 2 (35:54):
God? Wait? Wait wait, you mean the Devil's Kiss the
major No?
Speaker 1 (35:58):
No, What I mean is the fact that Bribella has
been dropping hints about getting back in and wrestling for
the last couple of weeks on her show, Do you
do you think, and especially saying things like I don't
want to do this next run without you. Fifth there, I'm.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Gonna say, you think seventy will pull out a gun?
I'm gonna be like, she's gotta know where to hide one.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Oh yeah she does.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
It's just between her budget.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
I see enough of between her budgets and be like,
there's a gun there, dude, we.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
See there's an extra clap my friend?
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Yeah? No, oh, my god, a Bribella appearance to screw
over Stepanie of Acre God, God, why would we even
put that into the ether, dude.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Because it's almost WrestleMania and you know they're gonna try
and pull out all the stops for Vegas parkdu And
uh yeah, yeah, I would not be surprised if Bri
mode And this is just total you know, based on
what Bree's saying WWE, I don't think they've dropped any
hints about Brie and Nicky's weird promo standing over Stephanie
(37:03):
was just awful, But I I don't think there's any
there's been any breadcrumbs, and this totally could be a
red herring overall, but in a weird way. Yeah, I'd
like to see Brie back, just so Nicky and Bree
could be unified again in WWE and we have something
to laugh at from week to week?
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Well, did they also bring Brad Brie just a needle
Daniel Bryan?
Speaker 1 (37:30):
I think still? Do you think they're still fucking with
Daniel Bryan?
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't think they're fucking
with him weekly. I just think that it might be
one of those moments where you know, hey, look, we
got your wife back on TV and you know, oh yeah,
I remember you were like a big Jiu Jitsu guy. Yeah,
we work with with USC and TKO. Oh what are
you doing over there? You're calling a shindy deathmatch Wrestling Company. Yeah,
(37:55):
that's what you're doing. Oh that's what. Oh No, your
wife's over here and she's doing the show that's making
money and people care about it.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Yeah. But do you think they might even use that
as bread crumbs to get Daniel back?
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Yeah, well that's what I'm saying, Like, I could see
that be in one of those situations where they just
kind of put that out into the ether. I'm sure
Brian has stupidly signed like a ten thousand year contract
with Tony Com too. God. I mean, I love the
guy and he's one of the best fucking, you know,
wrestlers in the past quarter of a century. But when
it comes to common sense, I mean, there's the reason.
(38:31):
You know, he's had a lot of head injuries.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Yeah, we're aware of that, you know.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
Oh yeah, I don't know, man. I think the match
will be fine. Stephanie's going to carry the whole fucking thing.
We know this. It's gonna be a lot of backwards
hats getting flipped off and shit. But I'm just not
into this feud. I'm just not into it. It's not
Stephanie's fault, abolutely won one hundred percent Nikki's fault. I'm
(39:02):
just not invested in this. If Stephanie loses to Nicki,
it's because they want Niki to be the big bad
And if they involved Brie, it's because this is what
they wanted for a while, and Stephanie's the sacrificial lamb. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
So I don't know. I'm still going with Stephanie because
to me, that just seems crazy, That just seems nuts.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
I have a feeling they want to drag this one out.
I don't know. I think Nicki's gonna win it just
to drag it out and then maybe aj Lee and
Nicki come to terms. Like I almost see that as
another thing, like there's more overhead with Nicki carrying this
belt than Stephanie, because you can do more with Nicki,
especially with some of these younger girls too. Never mind
(39:44):
like all the people that are still coming up that
haven't had their turn with Nicki Belly yet.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Oh boy. But by the way, speaking of cats, you
ever seen like a cat smell with banana? That's the
face on making it.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
But can't you see the big story eventually being Age
and Nicki Bella. Like it's just I mean they even
brought that up on Stephanie's podcast, not aj and Nicki Bella,
but that whole time with you know, the tweet and
everything else, like that was Stephanie McMahon. Well, the replacement
that they really didn't hint on was Nicki Bella. Nicki
Bella was supposed to be the one to carry the
(40:18):
mantle of the new Women's Revolution when aj Lee was
bounced out of the company, and I was like, well,
we know that's bullshit, but I wouldn't be surprised because
WWE likes their member berries. You know, they're like pulling
that up every once in a while and it's like, okay,
well you got aj Lee back, you want to put
her in a feud that people can go back and go,
oh yeah, that never happened. We never got to see
(40:39):
who really was the queen of the women's evolution. Meanwhile,
Page is doing commentary for it.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
So this is this is one of those sad moments
where you look at it though, and you go, if
only there was anybody that was attached to breed that
was you know, excuse me, nicky. Yeah, that is a
male wrestler has charisma of any way, shape or form,
because that could be an interesting story as far as
like because you'd have punk come out and be like, listen,
(41:08):
you've been gone and all, but like you really just
you don't want to smoke my wife, Like this is ridiculous.
We're both from you know, why don't we all go
out to dinner or something like why don't we just
cut the ship and move on with our lives? Like
you could present it in that way, but like, what's
nick you gonna do?
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Yeah? Oh, people in the chat are saying, Dolph Dolf Ziggler.
I mean, wow, there's there's a deep cut on that one.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
That would be, honest to god, that would be really funny.
That would be really funny of'm Dolph showing up like
it's like, oh my god, it's my by fat about
fifteen years Like I'm sorry, is he lacking at men?
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Just replay those Total Divas clips, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
That which is still one of the greatest, the greatest
clips in the history of that show. It is where
she where she? Really? He tried to guess and he
say I wanted I have bad Bassino was like sounds swell.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Yeah, good for you.
Speaker 5 (42:10):
You still got a girl like have have fun with that.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
That was when johnsena the Man, truly became a face
for me. I was like, ah, there you go.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
That was Sina Like in his selly like white guy
commercial voice. He was like, I have Sigma roots, right,
I have I'm our farming. That's Foncino.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
We got uh Ria Ripley, eo Sky, Alexa Bliss, Charlotte Flair,
and aj Lee versus Naya Jack Slash Legend, the Kabooki
Warriors Oscar and Kyrie and Becky Lynch in the women's
war Games match.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Only two options for this match better than expected or
way fucking worse than expecting. That's it that there's only
really two ways this could go. I don't think average
is an option. We're either going to be pleasantly surprised
or go, oh.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
Well, who are the dead dogs? Let's break it down
a little bit in this match for you know, the
faces and the hills. Who are the dead dogs? Because
I'm looking at Rear Ripley, Eosky, Alexa Bliss, Charlotte Flair,
and aj Lee. Alexa thank you, Alexa Bliss is the
one that's not going to provide anything in this match.
And then on the heels you got Naya Jack Slash Legend,
(43:30):
Kyrie and Osca and Becky Lynch, and I guess you
gotta kind of go Kyrie and and Naya unless they
want to throw Kyrie off of something, you know, like,
are we throwing? Is Charlotte going to recreate her match
with Kyrie again? Because I'm okay with that too, you know.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Well, this, by the way, this is not me saying
that most of the women in this match are bad.
That's just not true. No, I'm pretty fucking good. It's
just this style of match. It's just Yes, it can
go real, it can go real fucking south, go fast, right,
it can get real ugly, very very quickly.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Well, we haven't seen her of a j Lee in
a while either, right, so this is going to be
a pretty big match. But obviously she has a lot
of people to cover for her. But a j Lee
really hasn't had these standalone few matches, so we don't
really know what she's still capable of. For what that's worth,
Lash Legend, even though we're familiar with her in NXT,
this is probably her big moment in the fucking sun.
(44:29):
This is a big pay per view for her to
be a part of, So it's like, I think there's
gonna be a lot of added pressure on her shoulders
to perform too. But I would expect that the backbone
of this match is clearly going to be your rear Ripley,
It's going to be your Charlotte Flair, Eosky, Becky lynch
in Oscar. That's those are the ones that are going
to matter in this match. Everybody else is kind of filler.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
Yeah, well, I mean, of course, and also, like I said,
I mean, any match you got Alexa boys and you're
really just you're pulling in praying on that. There's no
other way to describe that is that has the opportunity
to be seriously fucking coocka doo doo. By the way,
did you see the thing with her where she was
addressing that people were giving her shit for looking older?
(45:15):
What I don't know if you saw that? No, what
do you mean?
Speaker 1 (45:18):
Because she's still dresses like she's fourteen, So I don't
know what they mean older, Like that's it.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
It makes it well, that's it looks worse because of that.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
Ah. Yes, well we've said that for years. Here's now
we said that before break? Why past? I mean, Jesus.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
Christ, right, you're an adult, Like you got to stop
doing that. But I think what she's also not putting
together in that moment where she's like, by the way,
I'm like coughing, my fucking voice is fine.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
I'm sorry, dude. Yeah, well you're ready to wrap this
up shortly?
Speaker 2 (45:46):
No? No, But like, fucking the whole thing with Alexa
is she was like, I look older. Whatever it is.
It's like, yeah, but you did all this shit to
your face, right, And usually doing all that shit to
your face is a toe to peace people that you're old, right, right,
Like the face surgeries are assigned to the general public
(46:11):
that you're insecure about your face and you're aging. So
if you're like thirty doing that, or even if you're
in your twenties are doing that, people look at you
and go, oh, you're old. You're old, because that's what
women do in their forties and fifties. They don't do
that when they're twenty five. And yeah, she looks fucking different.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
But you know, it is what it is. She's gonna
fucking stick to I guess looking that way for marketing purposes,
selling I don't know, little fucking dolls and shit. I
think that's a big thing too. Maybe if you detached
yourself from the doll and kind of grew up as
a character, evolved as a character, you could stop wearing
(46:55):
the Catholic schoolgirl dresses and shit, you know.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
Or they could just be her and Charlotte could just
be wine moms.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
Oh my god, that's a crazy idea. Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Fuck, just give them, just have them just big glasses
of red wine. And they're just like, yeah, I'm gonna.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
Be yeah, just a female millionaire's club. Why not? There
you go?
Speaker 2 (47:16):
Yeah, I gotta leave with my husband said, and it's
gonna be like I'm divorced. I think, uh, my husband's
a piece of shit. Like that would be good. I
think that's a better call than what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
Honestly, I gotta say the the baby faces are probably
going over the good gals. I think aj Lee is
probably gonna have the big moment over probably Becky Lynch.
I would assume that the direction is going to go
because even though there's the other stuff with Oscar and
Kyrie and Ripley and EO and stuff, it feels like
the main storyline here is going to be your aj
Lee versus Becky, which is what the crowd wants, and
(47:48):
I think that's how it should finish. I know people
said that Kyrie is going to lose, and it could
be that way, but if they want the aj Lee
and Becky to continue, then obviously somebody else is going
to get pinned. But I think I think you have
the good girl win. I think you have the good.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
Lady faces go over and the men heels go over. Right,
That's how this That's how this pickle is gonna square it.
I feel like there's kind of no way around it.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
Well, in the Men's War Games match, we've got CM Punk,
Cody Rhodes, the USO's Jay and Jimmy and Roman Reigns
versus the vision of bron and Bronson, Logan, Paul Drew McIntyre,
and Brock Lesner with the Paul Hayman. Yeah yeah, I think.
I think. I mean, with the way everything played out,
and honestly, Joe, it makes more sense to have the
(48:31):
bad guys win because the baby faces look disheveled, they
don't look like they're on the same page. They've done
nothing even in the Go Home Raw to really solidify
and make you believe that you know Cody and see
them Punk and Roman are even ready for this match,
whereas the vision seems like you know underneath Paul Hayman's
tutelage are ready for this match. So if you're just
(48:55):
paying attention to storyline, they're not ready. Cody, Cody in
the group are not ready for this Wargames match. And
I mean that could be the appeal of it at
Survivor Series and they swerve everybody and the good guys win.
But no, I think I'm gonna I side with you
on this one. I think the Heels absolutely win this,
and and not definitively, but it'll be a good match.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
Well, Jimmy's eating the pin more than likely, Yeah, Jimmy's
probably eating the pin. If Jimmy's not eating the pin,
I wouldn't be shocked if it was Punk sa way,
they could continue. Somebody in the in the fucking group
over there can be like Prinda champion, So now I
get a title match or blah blah blah. Cody's not
eating a pin as Stinky Jay and eating a fucking pin,
(49:39):
and obviously Roman rains ain't eating a pin. I mean
they could, They could throw a complete fucking curveball and
have State cop pin Roman reigns. I think that would
be Yeah, that'd be a message. That'd be a shot
down the bow or whatever the fuck you say where
it's like, looks take cops. He's the guy he pinned
Roman with the Romans, mister spear Man.
Speaker 1 (50:02):
So, I don't know, do you think anything will come
of the JA the j usso heel but not a heel,
still a babyface doing baby face ship, but really maybe
still a heel.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
I'm assuming that they realize that that's a failure to launch.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
I hope.
Speaker 3 (50:18):
So.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
Yeah, I mean that sucks. I mean that that sucks
so bad. I think that that's part of the reason
why they've leaned in even more into the Jimmy and
j fucking you know, comedy fucking act. You know, them
back and forth doing the you know, the the tit
for tat because they're like, oh, Jay whining and pretending
to be a heel sucks. This ship blows like it's
(50:42):
it's confusing the crowd, it's splitting them, it's not interesting,
and Jay doesn't have the ability in the ring to
carry a match.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
As a heel.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
Could you could you imagine Jay as a fucking heel
trying to like put the heat on somebody at this point, Like.
Speaker 1 (51:02):
No, because he doesn't even make sense rotten. He's spent
so much time trying to build this allure of getting
the fans toyeet with him and everything else like that.
It would be so awkward. I don't know, but I mean,
you know what, he would be the perfect seth rollins.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
Oh god, I know they like their they like their cookies,
they like their cookie cutters, so they might be like, oh, well,
look he comes out. He makes the crowd do the dance,
but he's not happy about it, right, just like you know,
you people are stupid, but you sing my song and
I put my nose in the air and I'm not
(51:41):
happy about it. It's like a fart. But yeah, whatever happens,
the heels are going over and this will be genuinely
surprised if they put the baby faces over the unless
it's Roman, because Roman must win, maybe that would be it.
That would be the only caveat.
Speaker 1 (51:55):
Yeah, but this is the best way to hide Roman
from that too, so true true uh, and the and
the most important match of the car John Cena versus
Dominic Mysterio singles match for the Icy Championship.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
Doesn't matter. It'll just be fun. I don't know the
funk who wins. Yeah, I really don't.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
I think it'll be a lot of John Cena pulling
out some Eddie Carrero plays. I think it will. I
think John Cena will plus some Eddie Guerrero plays in
outplay or Outsmart Dominic Mysterio. In a lot of ways,
I think it'll be fun.
Speaker 2 (52:26):
I would I would fucking love And I'm not big
on the whole you know, this is your life devolving,
but I mean it's it's it's Sina. He can't do
a hell of a lot in the ring at this point.
We're not expecting much of him.
Speaker 1 (52:40):
I don't know. Him and AJ Styles were hilarious. They
had a fu we can't you can't you know, gloss
over that because you're right. In a lot of ways
we look at Johnsene it's like, no, this dude's legitimately
winding down. But he him and AJ Styles were fantastic.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
I would, you know what, dude, I would kind to
love a Ghost of Christmas pass match with him, where
the heels from seeing a pass are kind of coming out.
I went out of the woodwork to fuck with him
or show it up, like, yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't
have a problem with that at all.
Speaker 1 (53:15):
Shows up with fucking I'm mister, Oh.
Speaker 2 (53:20):
God, was it hey, Sue's Jesus? Yeah, could you imagine,
like you know what? It would kind of be almost
like a I hate to say, like a action here
or whatever, cathartic, such an overstatement, but like if there
was a point where Dom tried to whatever walk out
(53:43):
or run away or something like that. I know he
can't win the title that way or whatever, but just
like if he tried to do that and then he
looks at the top of the ramp and it's like
this one and that one, and it's like, all see
Randy Orton, all seen his exit right right? Yes, almost
has to say like, you know, bitch, you take your beating.
(54:06):
You know, like we listen, we all we all had
to fight Sina, We all had to fight this motherfucker.
We all got our asses kicked at some point. You're
not above that. It's your turn.
Speaker 1 (54:15):
Oh that's clever. Like Dom tries to go outside of
the ring and do some something shitty or find like
a weapon to beat Sena, and then guys like Wade
Barretts stand up and fucking pull the weapon away.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
You know, like you're not You're onto something that could
be kind of neat, that could be really fucking neat.
And at the same time, you're telling the story of
dom still coming into age. It's like dom Dom is
learning wrestling the hard way, and it's like, oh shit,
I like it.
Speaker 2 (54:45):
But but this is also and this is where like
I wish Seene had a little bit of a longer
time and they didn't waste time with rock bullshit, But
I would have like, could you imagine if we had
a Sena versus Dominic mysterio in a Lumberjacks slash strap
match Lumberjackson and you just and we and we don't
(55:06):
know who the Lumberjacks are gonna be, And I'll just start.
Speaker 1 (55:10):
Like that teenage what was that TNA event where they
just gave fans belts to whip Jeff Jarrett with. They
just randomly gave fans just weapons to beat Jeff Jarrett with,
Like that's yeah, you do that with Dominic and JOHNSONA
Nobody's gonna hit John Cena. They have a field day
with Dominic's ass though.
Speaker 2 (55:30):
And you and and god, that could be so fun,
like could be like we don't know who the lumberjacks
are gonna be. You know, they could even have the match,
and then as time goes on, more fucking lumberjacks come
out something all those you know, it starts out with
the two guys.
Speaker 1 (55:46):
They just let out row two.
Speaker 2 (55:48):
Yeah, they do a fucking Royal rumble style lumberjack match
for a John Cena fucking match against Dominic un would.
Speaker 1 (56:00):
And you know what, he's one of the characters you
could do that with. You can't just do that with
anybody in the fucking ring, but you put somebody like
John Cena in there, who has this fucking career and
all these different people.
Speaker 2 (56:10):
Yeah, do you know? Oh man, by the way, now
I'm just I'm cooking. As the kids say over here,
get me a fucking chef hat. What if you did
a lumberjack strap match and both guys got to pick
five people?
Speaker 1 (56:27):
Oh okay, And so it's like.
Speaker 2 (56:29):
Who were the people that would you'd have Like Sina
would pick them to beat the shit out Tom, and
then Tom would beat the people that would Yeah, that
could be. Unfortunately, this guy's unrestling in two weeks, so
why am I even right right?
Speaker 1 (56:42):
You're coming up with these great fucking new gimmick matches, Joe.
It's like, oh, well, oh.
Speaker 2 (56:46):
Don't worry, guys, it's over in two weeks anyways, Jesus Christ.
But the good news is seth Rawllins is four months out,
so you guys have something to look forward to.
Speaker 1 (56:57):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Down in Carr County, Georgia, you better read the side. Respect.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
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Speaker 1 (00:31):
So hearts that.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
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Speaker 1 (01:00):
Jing wrestling soup.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah right, I figured we're just going to do a
fucking Frank guys, you're gonna soup tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Apparently, Oh it does matter. We've got well for Frank
and Gust tomorrow. We've got a bunch of voicemails coming in.
We got a full on shipbox tomorrow, kind of addressing
some of the John Cena stuff, and I'm kind of
looking forward to that. I haven't even gone through with that,
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should be nice little throwback to the shipbox era. If
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I'm I'm Anthony.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Is the scene of stuff as you're mentioning here? Is
that related to the Becky ship that she said on
no Podcast? No?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
You know what I was going to get into that too.
I don't. I don't even know if I feel like
getting into all that. I mean, I guess we.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Can as a lot. It's a lot, but like I've
only seen that one clip, and I'm gonna tell you,
anybody that's still in twenty twenty five is like Burt
Kreischer is funny, Burt Kreischer is a good guy, Like
he's a good interviewer. I'm like, you are fucking you
are a moron, good fucking god, Like just that thirty
(02:21):
second clip with Becky, And I don't know if everybody
has seen it and knows what I'm referencing, but obviously
you know what I'm talking.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
About, right, Yeah, I was, well, I didn't actually see
the clip, right, like I have the thing loaded, but
I read the story. I read the interview, and I
got through some of it, like the first like ten
to fifteen minutes. I think it's like almost an hour
and a half or hour and forty minutes with Bert,
Bert Seth and Beck's.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
At this. I mean, in this trio, Becky is truly
like she is carrying the water in that situation, speaking
of like mommy carry in the world like that that
woman is doing they have you labors my talent in
that situation. My god, Yeah, she's good at interviews. I'm
not a big fan of Seth. Like, we've had this
(03:11):
conversation before and I'm and I remember us talking. I'm
trying to remember exactly who it was. I think it
might have been John Morrison from way back in the
day me and you talked about this where John Morrison
for the most part, and this was back when he
kind of started discovering his cool guy shtick in w
w W during his last run, which was kind of
(03:32):
working with him and obviously them is and they work
well together, but it was always funny to me that
he's kind of a guy that gets passed over because
he's not a great promo and there's like this point
to him where it's like, oh, it's just he's not
that guy that's interesting to people. Yet when he does interviews,
the guy can just talk. And I think we've done
that before too, where it's like it's amazing where you
(03:53):
have these performers that you're constantly saying, oh, look they're
on TV, they're kind of awful, and like maybe they're
different real life, and then you get to real life,
and it's like, oh wow, what an interesting interview. They
can talk, they can have camaraderie, they tell jokes, they
have life stories and lessons for people. Seth is not
one of those guys. Seth, you know, he's just a showed.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
There's no flip side, there's no you know, he's He's
the Campbell's guy right about now, you know, like that's
what he is.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
It's uh, I'm not terribly surprised, and I've just I've
found him to be grading obviously as a performer and
as a person for a very very long time. And
then to combine that with Bert and I guess for
those who don't know what moment I'm referencing, I mean,
I guess we could go through some of the details
(04:46):
that have been on the show myopically. But the big
news story that came out of it was Becky basically
insinuated that there was an important guy in the company
that she was warned that you know, if she's if
he he tried to have sex with her, that it
would be a problem. And then she said yes, it
would be a problem. And if she said no, And
(05:07):
while she's basically talking about sexual blackmail, occurring on her job.
Bert Kreischer is going with his fucking shirt off. It's like,
you fucking loser. God, this guy sucks. God, he sucks.
And by the way, SE's like laughing too, of course
this is going on. He's like yes, And when someone's
(05:30):
trying to blackmail my wife for sex, it's like, you're
both fucking pussies. I hate these guys so much, so much,
like you're just not in any capacity, Like your wife's
saying this and you're like chuckling about it. And then
Bert Kreischer is like, I don't even to prescribe what
a fucking loser that guy is, but yeah, what a bit.
(05:52):
I don't know. If somebody has the audio, I know
you said you.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Haven't heard Yeah, no, no, if somebody has ahead, throw that
up and I'll edit it in here.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
What fucking moment. What a moment. And I mean that
in the worst possible way, right, I don't know. And obviously,
like when you said we you know there was Scena stuff.
I'm like there were some people being like, was the
guy John Cena? Was it John Cena that would do that?
And I'm like, hmmm, really you put him even anywhere
(06:21):
on that list. As far as like the guy that
would try to I don't know. I have a feeling
that that might have gotten out with old Johnny boy.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yeah, I mean, it's just it's a girls situation when
you start thinking about this stuff underneath the Vince McMahon era,
but what he turned out to be and and all
the accusations and stuff that's coming out. I wouldn't be
surprised if more of this shit comes out, Like I mean,
the Speaking Out movement was a big deal, and I
(06:51):
don't want to sit there and point fingers. I don't
think it's John Cena, you know what I mean? Like,
but I don't fucking know. Nobody really knows unless somebody's
going to actually name drop. But it's like you're on
a comedy podcast, knock on Wood, for whatever it's worth,
it's like that. It's just a weird, weird place to try.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
It's a weird choice moment. And then obviously I saw people,
you know, commenting on it, being like, hey, how about
you just tell us who the fuck it is at
that point, Yeah, And I can't disagree with them, right
if you think about it, Like if you think of it,
you know, So here's what's what was.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Said, right, So I have the actual written transcript. It
was ringside News. I think that's what I posted it.
At the same time, it was also stay away from
the boys, don't go near the boys. No, stay away
from the boys. But of certain things, like I'm not
going to name names, but there was a guy in
the main roster who's like, quote, be careful, be careful
because if one he'll try to sleep with you, and
if he sleeps with you, he'll blacklist you. And if
(07:50):
he tries to sleep with you and you don't sleep
with him, he'll also blacklist you. So there was this
line that you had to walk this tightrope. You know
him definitely, but anyway, at one point it was like
how do you walk this line of you know what
I mean? So there was always this thing of if
you get into a relationship and things go south, they're
not going to fire the guy. They're always going to
(08:12):
fire the girl, you know. So it was a very scary,
scary thing. And I mean like, that's a that's a
we've heard that over the years, and I'm sure you've
heard a lot more stories of that, you know, but
it's just it's kind of weird that you put that
out in the open, and it's like, I don't know,
like what the purpose was. I guess now that she's
(08:33):
so far removed from it, maybe that's why she brought
it up, but I it's just I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
And she's saying it once again on Burt Chrysiers.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Yeah, that's why why you're on the shirtless fucking Mongoloid's
podcast and you're like, yeah, this is the time to
to tell people some serious shit, and like, I don't know,
it was just presented really, really badly.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
If she did this on Stephanie's podcast.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Oh well, she prot That's another thing though. Where I'm
sitting there, I'm going and she said this on Stephanie's
and I'm like, well, is that because she thinks there's
going to be a real problem with it? But I'm like,
do you think this is just going to go away?
It just doesn't make any sense. It really doesn't. And
I'm once again, like I said, Becky has every right
(09:28):
to fucking talk about this situation. If she felt a
sort of way, it was just a better time and place.
I mean, didn't you just write a book like that?
Is this in the book? Somebody please correct me if
I'm wrong. Did she mention this in the book and
she just brought it up and only people that I've
read about, But if she did, I would have fucking
(09:49):
sworn somebody would have reported that by now, wouldn't you
think I have the book.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
I've skimmed the book. I did not read too deeply
into the book, and I don't remember that. I don't
know for what that's worth. Like, there are books that
I will sit there and read cover to cover and
kick my my socks off and kick my feet up
in the air and really get into. And there are
some rustling books that I'm just like ah, and Becky
(10:15):
unfortunately fell into the edge category of books to read.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
So yeah, the only thing that I've seen from Becky's
book was like that weird fucking chapter where like that's
semi gaslighting her about winning a title or something, and
I'm just like, God, this guy sucks. God, it sucks
so fucking bad. But oh what a still, what a
weird moment. And then by the way, like Bert thinking
(10:40):
he can make a joke out of this, Oh.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Of course it was uncomfortable. He had to make a.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Joke, Yeah, of course, Well no, but like thinking, which,
by the way, yes I get it being uncomfortable, but
like Bert thinking he can make a joke out of this.
He goes, oh, is it Cody rhoadsay, because he's friends
with Cody, and like he knows Cody, and I'm like, yeah, dog,
not the time.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Not the time.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
She too was voke Christ the name of the most
popular guy, and you know, the champion of the company
who idiosy idiousy all around. It's like Set's an idiot
for being there laughing.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Well here was the other bit too, So I mean,
if you want to talk a little bit more about
that interview, the other piece that made the news that
was rounding the bases with Seth was he was talking
about polygamy was the answer before he started dating Becky
Lynch and said I was going through an existential romantic
(11:41):
crisis at the end of twenty eighteen where I thought
polygamy was the answer, and she was guiding me through
this as a friend. I became single, she was single,
and then I was starting to make some Hey, maybe
we should fool around a little bits, Maybe we should
be more than just friends. Casual, you know what I mean,
very casual. No, I'm like you know what, I just
(12:01):
think you're hot. Let's hang out in tongue kiss or something.
I was in yeh, gosh.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I was.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
I love that. That's how he describes his gay like, Hey,
you know you're hot.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
I'm hot.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Can I drool in your mouth a little bit, you know,
with friends like casual.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Like But by the way, thirty year old man, thirty
year old man, By the way, I'm gonna fuck my
voice up again because I'm just laughing, engrossed out by
the level picture thirty something your old guy to be like,
needs to hang out in tongue kiss. I'd be like,
pull out the mace, immediately.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Pull out the Joey doesn't mean the spray. He means
the giant metal ball with spikes on it.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
It just swinging around three times. Let it go, dude,
Holy fuck. But by the way, I know I've seen
enough data. I know we're not a gal heavy show
audience here or whatever. But like, ladies, if any guy
says that to you, get the fuck.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
In his thirties. You want to listen to music, and
you want to listen to my new Creed album.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
You should come over to my house and hang out.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
What do you want some coffee. Mom picked up snacks
for this. We got krees in this this ridge seller.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
We could talk about my old girlfriends.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I want to talk about bands, my old girlfriend. Yes,
you want to talk about me fucking other people. But
by the way, like you know.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
It's really not as small as it was on Twitter.
I'm just you know.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
But by the way, if you think about it, in
that moment, whether she realizes it or not, she really
did save his fucking his career, his life, Yeah, life too,
I mean because because let me tell you, if that dumbuck,
he's a dumb fucking guy, let's be real, he is
not a.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
How do you fucking as a half flatin dude, how
do you end up dating a fucking a card carrying
Nazi like people. People joke about the term the girl
that he was fucking whoa what was her name? Sahara?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Zara? Zara was taking Instagram filtered picture swastip on her.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Wall like little my little pony with fucking swatska. It
was like, what the fuck are you dealing?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Nations? Yeah, out my bedroom and she wants also like
is she is she an edgy teenager or is she
also an adult? Like this is right, this is what
blows my fucking mind. Like that's some ship. Like the
look I was sat on the thing like, it's like
that's what a kid would do in like middle school.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Right, Edgy, whoa, you're fourteen, Wall that's crazy?
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Whoa anarchy? Simple, dude, you must believe in chaos and craziness.
You're a wild man. You don't abide by the rules. Dude. Meanwhile,
like ye, meanwhile he wants to tone kiss and take
baths with action figures.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Still, maybe maybe that's what his game got him, Joe.
Maybe it's that level of game that just ended him
up with a with a hot Nazi. I don't know,
it's just.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
You know what, could you picture that where he's sitting
there and man, I guess the Nazi didn't work out.
I guess that's it for me.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Maybe thought Becky was part of the IRA. Who knows, Joe,
It's just.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
It turns it turns out, dude, that's amazing. Where there's
this guy who's made like fucking millions of dollars and
has traveled the world and he's just like, well, I
guess the Nazi didn't work out for me. All that's
left now is becoming a polygamist. Shut up, you heard.
(16:15):
By the by the way, she definitely, like I said,
she saved his fucking ass, because there's no way he
would have been smart enough and competent enough to have
actually have like had real level adult conversations with these people,
and he would have just ended up fucking wrestling fans
(16:35):
and they would have thrown him under the bus and
somebody would have said he did something wrong to him
in his career. Would have been in the fucking toilet. Yeah,
you can't tell me that was not a trajectory. If
he thought he could, oh yeah, he could just do that,
it's like, yeah, dude, do you remember.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
He would have been a Tyler Black and a w Right, Like,
that's what it would have been. You're not wrong.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
He would have showed up and been like, I didn't
do any of that. Watch me do the Phoenex spleache again,
a fleen ex splinch.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
God, he would have been. He would have been the
fucking will Osprey of aw. He really would have. It
would have been like switching out, like where did the branch?
Where did the butterfly effect happen? Becky Lynch, Becky Lynch
saved us from Will Osprey rollins.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah, saved us. He kind of actually would have done
us a favorite well, no way. I mean in that moment, which,
by the way, like this is such a different level
than Becky being like, you know, oh, I was basically Epstein.
It's funny, but did you see the whole thing with
Ospray where he got into a fight with Cornette because
(17:52):
Osprey posted some fucking clip of kids doing backyard wrestling
and he's like Dutch Kube, I'll think Brev and Cornet's
like these guys are like hurting themselves for nothing, and
Osprey's like, now he's awesome. He's fucking Koup Brev. It's
like this guy is thirty and getting his neck fused.
(18:16):
It's like, what how do you think you got there?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
I mean, if you're taking will Osbury's life advice, maybe
maybe you should, maybe you should fall off of something.
I don't know, it's just you idolizing the wrong people.
If children are idolizing what will Osprey has to say,
then chances are they need better heroes in their life.
(18:41):
You know.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
The sad thing is the sad thing is these aren't children,
these are man children. What this is?
Speaker 1 (18:46):
What you want, They're not gonna fuck into it anyways,
what are you going to do fall off their chair.
I was trying to reach for my mountain doing and
tongue kiss my totally real girlfriend over here.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yeah, well a Spry's oh tongue case brev Well, Mike
smoochiesh with Mike Brothers. No, by the way, like you
and I were enough in the same generation that we
remembered the first group of fucking ecstasy zombies, right, oh yeah,
remember those people were like, you know, they were doing
(19:19):
they were going to raves and shit, and people were
doing ecstasy with us.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
You know.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
At first they're like, yeah, this is just fun and
getting fucked up. But then you started to see the
people that it really really fucking screwed up. You're like, oh,
people didn't see those, you know. And then obviously the
shit went away for a while, and then they repackaged
it as Mollie and people are like, oh yeah, and
(19:43):
then they got fucked up because they don't remember what
it was. But like right now, the spot monkey wrestler
fans and people they might have forgotten because they were
removed enough from like Benoir or the guys that just
were doing that shit that died. They just died. They
died of drugs. They were drug addicts. They died, and
(20:05):
they were like, oh, well, I guess you can just
do that kind of wrestling and nothing bad will happen
to you. But now it's like, look at Kenny Omega, right,
he looks like a boiled sack of fucking potatoes. It's
like hell. And then you see well Ospray and he's
thirty and he's getting surgeries that are like fucking like
(20:26):
NFL players get that with that in their fifties.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
You know, some people just don't get it though either though,
you know what I mean, Like in this case, when
you're really presenting it like that, well, Osprey just might
be a guy who watched Mick Foley fall off of
a fucking cage and thought to himself, that's cool, and
continued to do it and never really thought even though
he's getting his spine fused, never really thought, man, maybe
(20:51):
I shouldn't have done it. Maybe I shouldn't have idolized
a guy who damn near killed himself as a freak
of nature. Like, it's not everybody's going to come to that,
you know, moment of clarity, not everybody's going to come
to that Jesus moment where they realize maybe I shouldn't
be doing this in my forties. You know.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
It's just well, there's also this like element of it
too that it just frustrates me where I look at
it and I go, Okay, I understand not being adult
enough and maybe you haven't seen enough shit happen to
where in your mind you're like, you know, IF's a
summer forever party goes on for we're just gonna party
(21:32):
every day, and you're like, no, dude, just does and
you can't be doing this to yourself. Like I get
it to some extent, but the evidence is all there.
You see it, and like.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
If you don't fucking realize that, though, dude, how many
how many guys do we still sim and maybe not
even still, but how many guys were left over from
e CW a decade plus after ECW was gone trying
to relive those fucking glory days. It's like, at this point,
fifteen years later, you're just smashing an old man in
the head with barb wire. That's what you're doing, you
(22:08):
know what I mean. Like, so it's not even like,
oh my god, how can will Osprey say this shit,
It's there's a lot of wrestlers that don't let that
go and think that the greatest thing that ever happened
in their life was falling through a light tube table.
I mean, what the fuck are we.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Going to do at this point? There's like five guys
left from E C W if that, and one of
them's Tommy Dreamer. He looks like a body that was
washed up after a tsunami.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Oh did you see that Raven interview with Jericho? He
did the talker Jericho because Raven's got a new book out.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Oh no, I can't even imagine that.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
I'm you know what or he's got I don't know
if it's just a book of it. I think it's
a DVD too, but I mean, yeah, I don't know, dude.
It's it's sad, But stop idolizing wrestlers, like stop immediately
believing that wrestlers have the answers to fucking life, even
in wrestling. I think the best thing to do is
take a look at the people that didn't actually have
(23:04):
to step into the ring. They're probably the ones, or
at least not stepping in the ring on a weekly
basis or whatever. They're probably the ones that have a
better understanding of what the business really is, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Or how about just the fact of the risk reward
aspect of it right where we all understand. Like I said,
a couple of weeks ago, I went and I saw
the old Patriots player with Vince will Fork, and I
was like, yeah, he moves around like fucking Foley does.
Now he's an old, old, big guy, a four pound
(23:37):
fucking NFL player. You know, he's moving around and it's rough.
But old Vince is a multi millionaire dude. He's not hurting.
I mean, he's might be physically hurting, but he's not
hurting financial. But he did a lot to himself. But
I'm pretty sure the motherfucker's got some rings. He's got
seven figures in the bank. He's done okay for himself.
(23:59):
But the message is predominantly from a guy even like Cornett,
but just people in general. I feel like that are
trying to talk sense into these guys where it's like,
you're not going to walk away set up enough in
life that you can even justify doing all this to yourself.
You know, Like there's a lot of dudes that were
(24:21):
trades Like I have an old friend of mine did
welding and shit, and you know, he would have he
would make a lot of money, but he'd have to
retire by like fifty something because his body wouldn't hold
up right right. He would get he would have lung problems,
he'd have heart problems, because like all the chemicals, like, yeah,
there's a risk, there's a reward. It's like, yeah, he's
(24:44):
the only dude you know in his twenties that's making
six figures at that point. But that's because motherfucker had
to be done. He'd have to be done by a
certain age because he just couldn't do it anymore. And
I think the message is supposed to be from like
you know, from Corny obviously, but I think for most
people where it's hey, you're going to do all this
(25:04):
crazy shit to yourself, But what are you going to
do when you're fucking forty five? Do you have anything
when you're forty five years old? Do you have a
paid off house?
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Well? I don't think a lot of them, but I
mean this is and like you're pointing out, even outside
of wrestling, but I mean a lot of people are
like that. They live those glory days of their career,
and they think that that's going to echo throughout time,
and it's like, no, man, that shit disappears a lot
faster than you think. If you don't have a trust fall,
if you don't have a windfall, it's going to be
(25:35):
a very difficult twilight, you know. And that's what you see.
People like will Osprey are pretty much echoing the sentiment
of yeah, no, go ahead and fall off as something
that's really cool. Live those days and keep doing it because.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
When you're a teenager, because your body doesn't get hurt
when you're a teenager. It's like, that's the craziest shit
I've ever heard, dude. There's do you know how many
people I know? And by the way, myself included. I
fucking dislocated my knee and my teens and then I
had a shitty kneed going forward right, and then I
kept dislocating it. Then I tore my acl Like it's like, yeah,
(26:12):
that's how it goes, dude, Like you you just think, like,
I don't know, maybe in his mind he's like, oh,
when I was sixteen, I didn't get hurt, And you're like, dah,
but that's you can't base that advice or that idea
for everybody. And also in that moment for him to
just say that to like and I get it. He
(26:32):
doesn't have influence really that much, so, but more so
than the average person to where him to be like, yeah, no,
trying this at home.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
It's like, are you really yeah, because he thinks he
romanticizes what the fuck he's doing, that's what it is.
He's he's in his own little dream cloud, Joe, and
he believes that this is this is something that everybody
can share. Everybody can have this great career, everybody can
have these great moments. Everybody can look at Rustling through
the same rose colored glasses that he does. And it's like,
(27:02):
you got somebody like Jim going, what are you fucking stupid?
Like no, it's just he's he's oblivious as to how
much weight his words carry, you know.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
But well once once again, like we're not living in
a world where wrestling is new. And I used I
used the fucking ecstasy example because you know, when we
were you know, teenagers and young adults, the ship was
a drug that people hadn't seen before. And by the way,
this goes back to hippies I'm sure too, where they
were like, yeah, dude, we're just all getting fucked up.
(27:35):
This ship rocks. We don't go we're getting into fucking heroin.
And then people started dying and they were like, wait, what,
well that happens. Yeah, well that's a part of this.
It's not just we're I'll have them fun. It's like, no,
you can die from this. Wait, shit, I didn't sign
up for that. It's like, well, unfortunately you did. That's
(27:56):
that is a part of it, just the same exact
way where it's like people sit around and like they go, well,
I'm twenty five and I'm a bit, you know, a
big fat fuck and I don't fucking remotely pay attention
to my diet, and it's like, yeah, your body's gonna
feel a lot different in ten years. Ah well, I
would fucking say that to me. Where that's fucking mean
and you're like, no, that's it's once again, it's just
like it's just reality, right. And by the way, I
(28:20):
still I follow the Dug Stanhope method of looking at
this shit. You could say that there's such thing as addiction,
but then there's also just things that some people like
doing more than being alive. And if you're accepting that,
if you're like, hey, listen, like I've known, we've all
met these fucking people right where they're just drunks to
(28:42):
the bone or just fuck ups to the bone, and
they're like, yeah, I'm just gonna die this way. And
you go, well, that's fucking sad. But then you realize
you're like, no, this is to some extent, like yes,
it's you want them to get help trauma, they need
to get some sort of treatment for it. But there's
(29:04):
a part of them where they're like, no, this is
just me, Like this is this is what I see
as my whole life and my identity is I'm the
guy that sits around and drinks until I fucking piss
myself and I'm gonna die that way. You're like, wow,
am I gonna tell you otherwise?
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Right, that's your decision.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
And it's and by the way, like that's Darby Allen's
view of professional wrestling. So when people go, oh, Darby
Allan's a fucking you don't understand, man, he's a cool
guy on the edge, I go, no, he's literally no
different than the guy that they have to push out
and he's frank Gallagher. He's Frank Gallagher with a fucking
spotlight and an entrance, all right, Like the dude's gonna
(29:47):
fucking end up hurting himself and or severely injuring himself,
and he's gonna be like, yeah, well I went out
on my shield. And it's like, well, all right, at
what point do people say, enjoy your shield?
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Right? Right?
Speaker 2 (30:01):
I guess it's the only option, right, Enjoy your shield, motherfucker.
But it was a thirty year old man.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Talk about Survivor series going into it. We've got a
couple of men that.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
We were just talking about.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Yeah, I mean really, Lord, Survivor Series Live Saturday, twenty eighth,
San Diego at the Petco Park. Oh awful name for
a fucking arena. Pet COO.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Are you a pet Co guy or a pet Smart guy?
Which one of you?
Speaker 1 (30:29):
I'm ay whoever has the cheapest kitty cat food on sale?
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Guy?
Speaker 1 (30:34):
No, I'm not. I'm not really that bad. Actually, we
just went to uh, I think it was pet coll
the other day and we started trying the just different
they have like this satin dark food, so it's like
it's kitty food after dark. And the differences is they
have like more gravy and like succulent carrots and like
(30:55):
all these crazy vegetables. I know, carrots, crazy vegetable, but
it's just like mushrooms in there and shit, and uh, well,
because we try to keep our cats because I feel bad.
I don't know if you're this kind of a cat owner,
but I know they love the Nine Lives. Love it,
like nine lives. I could put down a can of
that shit and they're like thanks Dad, and then they're
(31:15):
just fucking into it.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Oh well, that's because some of that shit's McDonald's too.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Oh it is, that's right, But you feel bad giving
them nine Lives. And I don't care how many flavors
they have. And they have a ton of flavors, right, No,
pat they fucking hear Patie. But if it's got gravy
or it's got shreds, oh, cats are both down. But
I feel bad always giving them the same things. And
(31:39):
it's like in my mind, I'm like, well, I have
a more complex palate, my wife has a more complex palette.
Maybe the cats. Maybe the cats have a more complex palate.
And so there's times that we go out and we
try all these different foods and they're like ah, this
is gross. They seem to love fancy feast though. They
love their fancy feast, fancy.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Feast as a fucking crowd pleaser.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Oh they hate. But the other big one, the other
fucking high falutin cat food that they hate. Though. Have
you ever tried sheba? Not you, but have your care.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
That was okay, I'll be I'll be honest. It was
just alright. I wasn't great, you know, I had it
in a sandwich. It was okay. No, no, I believe me.
I've seen well, dude, the Sheba to the servings of
it are like a symbol.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Yeah, so it's a fancy feast. It's the same thing,
like the Sheba coming in the little plastic like tubes
that you just squeeze out, one tube per animal. It's
so pretentious. It's like even the cat on the cover
is like this perfectly maintained white coat, or or you
have the black coat kitty and the eyes are spark.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
I girlfriend, yeah, oh she would, yes.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
But it's like I always feel bad for the cats.
So we go to like pet Co and shit like that,
and we try all these different cat flavors. But yeah, no,
as far as pet companies, and stuff. I usually get
them whatever the fuck is on sale, but every once
in a while Dad will go out there and try
and get them all these crazy cat foods. We tried
the cat food that they sell. They the fresh pet
(33:18):
is that what it's called. They have it for dogs, right,
like they have one thousand and one different types of
dog food and the fresh dog food. But the cats
they just get one tube. There's just one ground beef
looking tube. And the cats were cool with it for
like a week and ever since that, and then of
(33:38):
course the tube is like forty dollars, you know. I
was like, oh, it's just throw out this forty dollars
worth of cat food. Although that's what we've done now,
is all the cat food that they don't like, all
the fresh shit or like the blue ribbon top shelf
stuff that we buy for them. We just donate it.
But we always feel like assholes because it's like, oh,
we just Mama just spent sixty dollars on your on
(33:59):
your two cans of cat Oh you don't like it.
Oh that's too bad.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
So anyways, well I will I will say, though, you
gotta get when you're not living in the city, get
just do Chewy Chewy is fucking great.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Yeah, chewy chewy stuff. I used to do Chewy because
I'd have those assholes deliver the forty pounds of fucking litter.
And so I get like fucking six of them, and
I just know I'm making some asshole sweat as he's
literally dropping off plastic crates full of fucking shit tickets
for cats.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Yeah, just like one of these dead bodies.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
It's not even a box. They just literally dropped off
six of them, stacked them up against the fucking back
door and said there you go. And I was like, okay.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
By the way, I like Vinnie Macki's like cat food
made by TKO. I'm like, yeah, just every month it
goes up for no reason.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Oh yeah, sure does. Flips ratings are down. Uh the
uh Survivor series show. We have four matches on the card.
I don't think there's gonna be a fifth, but who knows.
We got Stephanie Vickare versus Nicky bella singles match for
the women's World Championship.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Joe, uh boy. I really am hoping that they don't
put Nikki over in this. I just I don't. I
don't put anything past them at this point with that
type of title changes and with the women and the
core seems nice enough that she'll put up with anything,
so nothing will surprise me. But this needs to be
(35:37):
seven minutes tops. Stephanie goes over clean as a fucking whistle.
That's what needs to happen. Would I be surprised if
she did it? I?
Speaker 1 (35:46):
No, No, Do you think? Do you think the major
weapon comes out?
Speaker 2 (35:54):
God? Wait? Wait wait, you mean the Devil's Kiss the
major No?
Speaker 1 (35:58):
No, What I mean is the fact that Bribella has
been dropping hints about getting back in and wrestling for
the last couple of weeks on her show, Do you
do you think, and especially saying things like I don't
want to do this next run without you. Fifth there, I'm.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Gonna say, you think seventy will pull out a gun?
I'm gonna be like, she's gotta know where to hide one.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Oh yeah she does.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
It's just between her budget.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
I see enough of between her budgets and be like,
there's a gun there, dude, we.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
See there's an extra clap my friend?
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Yeah? No, oh, my god, a Bribella appearance to screw
over Stepanie of Acre God, God, why would we even
put that into the ether, dude.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Because it's almost WrestleMania and you know they're gonna try
and pull out all the stops for Vegas parkdu And
uh yeah, yeah, I would not be surprised if Bri
mode And this is just total you know, based on
what Bree's saying WWE, I don't think they've dropped any
hints about Brie and Nicky's weird promo standing over Stephanie
(37:03):
was just awful, But I I don't think there's any
there's been any breadcrumbs, and this totally could be a
red herring overall, but in a weird way. Yeah, I'd
like to see Brie back, just so Nicky and Bree
could be unified again in WWE and we have something
to laugh at from week to week?
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Well, did they also bring Brad Brie just a needle
Daniel Bryan?
Speaker 1 (37:30):
I think still? Do you think they're still fucking with
Daniel Bryan?
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't think they're fucking
with him weekly. I just think that it might be
one of those moments where you know, hey, look, we
got your wife back on TV and you know, oh yeah,
I remember you were like a big Jiu Jitsu guy. Yeah,
we work with with USC and TKO. Oh what are
you doing over there? You're calling a shindy deathmatch Wrestling Company. Yeah,
(37:55):
that's what you're doing. Oh that's what. Oh No, your
wife's over here and she's doing the show that's making
money and people care about it.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Yeah. But do you think they might even use that
as bread crumbs to get Daniel back?
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Yeah, well that's what I'm saying, Like, I could see
that be in one of those situations where they just
kind of put that out into the ether. I'm sure
Brian has stupidly signed like a ten thousand year contract
with Tony Com too. God. I mean, I love the
guy and he's one of the best fucking, you know,
wrestlers in the past quarter of a century. But when
it comes to common sense, I mean, there's the reason.
(38:31):
You know, he's had a lot of head injuries.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Yeah, we're aware of that, you know.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
Oh yeah, I don't know, man. I think the match
will be fine. Stephanie's going to carry the whole fucking thing.
We know this. It's gonna be a lot of backwards
hats getting flipped off and shit. But I'm just not
into this feud. I'm just not into it. It's not
Stephanie's fault, abolutely won one hundred percent Nikki's fault. I'm
(39:02):
just not invested in this. If Stephanie loses to Nicki,
it's because they want Niki to be the big bad
And if they involved Brie, it's because this is what
they wanted for a while, and Stephanie's the sacrificial lamb. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
So I don't know. I'm still going with Stephanie because
to me, that just seems crazy, That just seems nuts.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
I have a feeling they want to drag this one out.
I don't know. I think Nicki's gonna win it just
to drag it out and then maybe aj Lee and
Nicki come to terms. Like I almost see that as
another thing, like there's more overhead with Nicki carrying this
belt than Stephanie, because you can do more with Nicki,
especially with some of these younger girls too. Never mind
(39:44):
like all the people that are still coming up that
haven't had their turn with Nicki Belly yet.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Oh boy. But by the way, speaking of cats, you
ever seen like a cat smell with banana? That's the
face on making it.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
But can't you see the big story eventually being Age
and Nicki Bella. Like it's just I mean they even
brought that up on Stephanie's podcast, not aj and Nicki Bella,
but that whole time with you know, the tweet and
everything else, like that was Stephanie McMahon. Well, the replacement
that they really didn't hint on was Nicki Bella. Nicki
Bella was supposed to be the one to carry the
(40:18):
mantle of the new Women's Revolution when aj Lee was
bounced out of the company, and I was like, well,
we know that's bullshit, but I wouldn't be surprised because
WWE likes their member berries. You know, they're like pulling
that up every once in a while and it's like, okay,
well you got aj Lee back, you want to put
her in a feud that people can go back and go,
oh yeah, that never happened. We never got to see
(40:39):
who really was the queen of the women's evolution. Meanwhile,
Page is doing commentary for it.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
So this is this is one of those sad moments
where you look at it though, and you go, if
only there was anybody that was attached to breed that
was you know, excuse me, nicky. Yeah, that is a
male wrestler has charisma of any way, shape or form,
because that could be an interesting story as far as
like because you'd have punk come out and be like, listen,
(41:08):
you've been gone and all, but like you really just
you don't want to smoke my wife, Like this is ridiculous.
We're both from you know, why don't we all go
out to dinner or something like why don't we just
cut the ship and move on with our lives? Like
you could present it in that way, but like, what's
nick you gonna do?
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Yeah? Oh, people in the chat are saying, Dolph Dolf Ziggler.
I mean, wow, there's there's a deep cut on that one.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
That would be, honest to god, that would be really funny.
That would be really funny of'm Dolph showing up like
it's like, oh my god, it's my by fat about
fifteen years Like I'm sorry, is he lacking at men?
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Just replay those Total Divas clips, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
That which is still one of the greatest, the greatest
clips in the history of that show. It is where
she where she? Really? He tried to guess and he
say I wanted I have bad Bassino was like sounds swell.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Yeah, good for you.
Speaker 5 (42:10):
You still got a girl like have have fun with that.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
That was when johnsena the Man, truly became a face
for me. I was like, ah, there you go.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
That was Sina Like in his selly like white guy
commercial voice. He was like, I have Sigma roots, right,
I have I'm our farming. That's Foncino.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
We got uh Ria Ripley, eo Sky, Alexa Bliss, Charlotte Flair,
and aj Lee versus Naya Jack Slash Legend, the Kabooki
Warriors Oscar and Kyrie and Becky Lynch in the women's
war Games match.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Only two options for this match better than expected or
way fucking worse than expecting. That's it that there's only
really two ways this could go. I don't think average
is an option. We're either going to be pleasantly surprised
or go, oh.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
Well, who are the dead dogs? Let's break it down
a little bit in this match for you know, the
faces and the hills. Who are the dead dogs? Because
I'm looking at Rear Ripley, Eosky, Alexa Bliss, Charlotte Flair,
and aj Lee. Alexa thank you, Alexa Bliss is the
one that's not going to provide anything in this match.
And then on the heels you got Naya Jack Slash Legend,
(43:30):
Kyrie and Osca and Becky Lynch, and I guess you
gotta kind of go Kyrie and and Naya unless they
want to throw Kyrie off of something, you know, like,
are we throwing? Is Charlotte going to recreate her match
with Kyrie again? Because I'm okay with that too, you know.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Well, this, by the way, this is not me saying
that most of the women in this match are bad.
That's just not true. No, I'm pretty fucking good. It's
just this style of match. It's just Yes, it can
go real, it can go real fucking south, go fast, right,
it can get real ugly, very very quickly.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Well, we haven't seen her of a j Lee in
a while either, right, so this is going to be
a pretty big match. But obviously she has a lot
of people to cover for her. But a j Lee
really hasn't had these standalone few matches, so we don't
really know what she's still capable of. For what that's worth,
Lash Legend, even though we're familiar with her in NXT,
this is probably her big moment in the fucking sun.
(44:29):
This is a big pay per view for her to
be a part of, So it's like, I think there's
gonna be a lot of added pressure on her shoulders
to perform too. But I would expect that the backbone
of this match is clearly going to be your rear Ripley,
It's going to be your Charlotte Flair, Eosky, Becky lynch
in Oscar. That's those are the ones that are going
to matter in this match. Everybody else is kind of filler.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
Yeah, well, I mean, of course, and also, like I said,
I mean, any match you got Alexa boys and you're
really just you're pulling in praying on that. There's no
other way to describe that is that has the opportunity
to be seriously fucking coocka doo doo. By the way,
did you see the thing with her where she was
addressing that people were giving her shit for looking older?
(45:15):
What I don't know if you saw that? No, what
do you mean?
Speaker 1 (45:18):
Because she's still dresses like she's fourteen, So I don't
know what they mean older, Like that's it.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
It makes it well, that's it looks worse because of that.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
Ah. Yes, well we've said that for years. Here's now
we said that before break? Why past? I mean, Jesus.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
Christ, right, you're an adult, Like you got to stop
doing that. But I think what she's also not putting
together in that moment where she's like, by the way,
I'm like coughing, my fucking voice is fine.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
I'm sorry, dude. Yeah, well you're ready to wrap this
up shortly?
Speaker 2 (45:46):
No? No, But like, fucking the whole thing with Alexa
is she was like, I look older. Whatever it is.
It's like, yeah, but you did all this shit to
your face, right, And usually doing all that shit to
your face is a toe to peace people that you're old, right, right,
Like the face surgeries are assigned to the general public
(46:11):
that you're insecure about your face and you're aging. So
if you're like thirty doing that, or even if you're
in your twenties are doing that, people look at you
and go, oh, you're old. You're old, because that's what
women do in their forties and fifties. They don't do
that when they're twenty five. And yeah, she looks fucking different.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
But you know, it is what it is. She's gonna
fucking stick to I guess looking that way for marketing purposes,
selling I don't know, little fucking dolls and shit. I
think that's a big thing too. Maybe if you detached
yourself from the doll and kind of grew up as
a character, evolved as a character, you could stop wearing
(46:55):
the Catholic schoolgirl dresses and shit, you know.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
Or they could just be her and Charlotte could just
be wine moms.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
Oh my god, that's a crazy idea. Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Fuck, just give them, just have them just big glasses
of red wine. And they're just like, yeah, I'm gonna.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
Be yeah, just a female millionaire's club. Why not? There
you go?
Speaker 2 (47:16):
Yeah, I gotta leave with my husband said, and it's
gonna be like I'm divorced. I think, uh, my husband's
a piece of shit. Like that would be good. I
think that's a better call than what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
Honestly, I gotta say the the baby faces are probably
going over the good gals. I think aj Lee is
probably gonna have the big moment over probably Becky Lynch.
I would assume that the direction is going to go
because even though there's the other stuff with Oscar and
Kyrie and Ripley and EO and stuff, it feels like
the main storyline here is going to be your aj
Lee versus Becky, which is what the crowd wants, and
(47:48):
I think that's how it should finish. I know people
said that Kyrie is going to lose, and it could
be that way, but if they want the aj Lee
and Becky to continue, then obviously somebody else is going
to get pinned. But I think I think you have
the good girl win. I think you have the good.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
Lady faces go over and the men heels go over. Right,
That's how this That's how this pickle is gonna square it.
I feel like there's kind of no way around it.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
Well, in the Men's War Games match, we've got CM Punk,
Cody Rhodes, the USO's Jay and Jimmy and Roman Reigns
versus the vision of bron and Bronson, Logan, Paul Drew McIntyre,
and Brock Lesner with the Paul Hayman. Yeah yeah, I think.
I think. I mean, with the way everything played out,
and honestly, Joe, it makes more sense to have the
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bad guys win because the baby faces look disheveled, they
don't look like they're on the same page. They've done
nothing even in the Go Home Raw to really solidify
and make you believe that you know Cody and see
them Punk and Roman are even ready for this match,
whereas the vision seems like you know underneath Paul Hayman's
tutelage are ready for this match. So if you're just
(48:55):
paying attention to storyline, they're not ready. Cody, Cody in
the group are not ready for this Wargames match. And
I mean that could be the appeal of it at
Survivor Series and they swerve everybody and the good guys win.
But no, I think I'm gonna I side with you
on this one. I think the Heels absolutely win this,
and and not definitively, but it'll be a good match.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
Well, Jimmy's eating the pin more than likely, Yeah, Jimmy's
probably eating the pin. If Jimmy's not eating the pin,
I wouldn't be shocked if it was Punk sa way,
they could continue. Somebody in the in the fucking group
over there can be like Prinda champion, So now I
get a title match or blah blah blah. Cody's not
eating a pin as Stinky Jay and eating a fucking pin,
(49:39):
and obviously Roman rains ain't eating a pin. I mean
they could, They could throw a complete fucking curveball and
have State cop pin Roman reigns. I think that would
be Yeah, that'd be a message. That'd be a shot
down the bow or whatever the fuck you say where
it's like, looks take cops. He's the guy he pinned
Roman with the Romans, mister spear Man.
Speaker 1 (50:02):
So, I don't know, do you think anything will come
of the JA the j usso heel but not a heel,
still a babyface doing baby face ship, but really maybe
still a heel.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
I'm assuming that they realize that that's a failure to launch.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
I hope.
Speaker 3 (50:18):
So.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
Yeah, I mean that sucks. I mean that that sucks
so bad. I think that that's part of the reason
why they've leaned in even more into the Jimmy and
j fucking you know, comedy fucking act. You know, them
back and forth doing the you know, the the tit
for tat because they're like, oh, Jay whining and pretending
to be a heel sucks. This ship blows like it's
(50:42):
it's confusing the crowd, it's splitting them, it's not interesting,
and Jay doesn't have the ability in the ring to
carry a match.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
As a heel.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
Could you could you imagine Jay as a fucking heel
trying to like put the heat on somebody at this point, Like.
Speaker 1 (51:02):
No, because he doesn't even make sense rotten. He's spent
so much time trying to build this allure of getting
the fans toyeet with him and everything else like that.
It would be so awkward. I don't know, but I mean,
you know what, he would be the perfect seth rollins.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
Oh god, I know they like their they like their cookies,
they like their cookie cutters, so they might be like, oh, well,
look he comes out. He makes the crowd do the dance,
but he's not happy about it, right, just like you know,
you people are stupid, but you sing my song and
I put my nose in the air and I'm not
(51:41):
happy about it. It's like a fart. But yeah, whatever happens,
the heels are going over and this will be genuinely
surprised if they put the baby faces over the unless
it's Roman, because Roman must win, maybe that would be it.
That would be the only caveat.
Speaker 1 (51:55):
Yeah, but this is the best way to hide Roman
from that too, so true true uh, and the and
the most important match of the car John Cena versus
Dominic Mysterio singles match for the Icy Championship.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
Doesn't matter. It'll just be fun. I don't know the
funk who wins. Yeah, I really don't.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
I think it'll be a lot of John Cena pulling
out some Eddie Carrero plays. I think it will. I
think John Cena will plus some Eddie Guerrero plays in
outplay or Outsmart Dominic Mysterio. In a lot of ways,
I think it'll be fun.
Speaker 2 (52:26):
I would I would fucking love And I'm not big
on the whole you know, this is your life devolving,
but I mean it's it's it's Sina. He can't do
a hell of a lot in the ring at this point.
We're not expecting much of him.
Speaker 1 (52:40):
I don't know. Him and AJ Styles were hilarious. They
had a fu we can't you can't you know, gloss
over that because you're right. In a lot of ways
we look at Johnsene it's like, no, this dude's legitimately
winding down. But he him and AJ Styles were fantastic.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
I would, you know what, dude, I would kind to
love a Ghost of Christmas pass match with him, where
the heels from seeing a pass are kind of coming out.
I went out of the woodwork to fuck with him
or show it up, like, yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't
have a problem with that at all.
Speaker 1 (53:15):
Shows up with fucking I'm mister, Oh.
Speaker 2 (53:20):
God, was it hey, Sue's Jesus? Yeah, could you imagine,
like you know what? It would kind of be almost
like a I hate to say, like a action here
or whatever, cathartic, such an overstatement, but like if there
was a point where Dom tried to whatever walk out
(53:43):
or run away or something like that. I know he
can't win the title that way or whatever, but just
like if he tried to do that and then he
looks at the top of the ramp and it's like
this one and that one, and it's like, all see
Randy Orton, all seen his exit right right? Yes, almost
has to say like, you know, bitch, you take your beating.
(54:06):
You know, like we listen, we all we all had
to fight Sina, We all had to fight this motherfucker.
We all got our asses kicked at some point. You're
not above that. It's your turn.
Speaker 1 (54:15):
Oh that's clever. Like Dom tries to go outside of
the ring and do some something shitty or find like
a weapon to beat Sena, and then guys like Wade
Barretts stand up and fucking pull the weapon away.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
You know, like you're not You're onto something that could
be kind of neat, that could be really fucking neat.
And at the same time, you're telling the story of
dom still coming into age. It's like dom Dom is
learning wrestling the hard way, and it's like, oh shit,
I like it.
Speaker 2 (54:45):
But but this is also and this is where like
I wish Seene had a little bit of a longer
time and they didn't waste time with rock bullshit, But
I would have like, could you imagine if we had
a Sena versus Dominic mysterio in a Lumberjacks slash strap
match Lumberjackson and you just and we and we don't
(55:06):
know who the Lumberjacks are gonna be, And I'll just start.
Speaker 1 (55:10):
Like that teenage what was that TNA event where they
just gave fans belts to whip Jeff Jarrett with. They
just randomly gave fans just weapons to beat Jeff Jarrett with,
Like that's yeah, you do that with Dominic and JOHNSONA
Nobody's gonna hit John Cena. They have a field day
with Dominic's ass though.
Speaker 2 (55:30):
And you and and god, that could be so fun,
like could be like we don't know who the lumberjacks
are gonna be. You know, they could even have the match,
and then as time goes on, more fucking lumberjacks come
out something all those you know, it starts out with
the two guys.
Speaker 1 (55:46):
They just let out row two.
Speaker 2 (55:48):
Yeah, they do a fucking Royal rumble style lumberjack match
for a John Cena fucking match against Dominic un would.
Speaker 1 (56:00):
And you know what, he's one of the characters you
could do that with. You can't just do that with
anybody in the fucking ring, but you put somebody like
John Cena in there, who has this fucking career and
all these different people.
Speaker 2 (56:10):
Yeah, do you know? Oh man, by the way, now
I'm just I'm cooking. As the kids say over here,
get me a fucking chef hat. What if you did
a lumberjack strap match and both guys got to pick
five people?
Speaker 1 (56:27):
Oh okay, And so it's like.
Speaker 2 (56:29):
Who were the people that would you'd have Like Sina
would pick them to beat the shit out Tom, and
then Tom would beat the people that would Yeah, that
could be. Unfortunately, this guy's unrestling in two weeks, so
why am I even right right?
Speaker 1 (56:42):
You're coming up with these great fucking new gimmick matches, Joe.
It's like, oh, well, oh.
Speaker 2 (56:46):
Don't worry, guys, it's over in two weeks anyways, Jesus Christ.
But the good news is seth Rawllins is four months out,
so you guys have something to look forward to.
Speaker 1 (56:57):
Well, I hope everybody didn't pass the fuck out from
Thanksgiving Turkey, but thank you very much for joining us
for this, uh this Turkey edition of Wrestling Soup. And
we'll be back here tomorrow for Frank and Gust and
then of course Saturday we will be around with John
Draper doing the post show and I'm looking forward to that.
That'll be a lot of fun. And uh yeah, subscribe
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Speaker 2 (57:30):
Enjoy the rest of your thanktgiving and fuck the Chiefs.
They suck. They just lost. Fuck them in the mouth.
Suck them in the face and asked to a bunch
of babies sucks. Follow on twip at Wrestling Soup like
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