WWE AI MAD LIBS (Wrestling Soup 11.26.25)

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Kids got Yeah, they're fucking gross, dude. Yeah, nobody gets
you more. Sect dude.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
You may as well just be a fucking sewer maintenance
guy because I'm in a petri dish.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Yeah, and anything that's getting me at that point is
strong because you're just constantly in the ship, you know.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yeah, yeah, you should make the kids wear masks like
they do in Japan.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Well, i'll tell you there were some people that they
used to make the kids who are the masks and
they didn't like that for some reason.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Wow, who the fuck cares? That's what they do in Japan.
Shut the fuck up and quarters Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
What if what if we just said, what if we
presented it as some Japanese shit.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
That's right? That might work there being cultural. Well, here's
another thing that you probably didn't know if that's the case.
Did you know that in Japan the schools don't have janet.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Because the kids, actually good kids, are.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Supposed to clean up the whole school, and they do
from the toilets to the floors, mopping everything. Because in
Japan they feel like that's a good life lesson to
teach kids how to.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Well it is. I actually think it's a fuck. That's
a fucking great idea.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
That's crazy, though. Could you imagine schools in America be like, oh,
we're firing all the janitors. Everybody's like, boo, school suck.
We're gonna teach your kids how to clean. Oh well
wait wait a minute.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Well no, no, here's here's the funny thing, dude. In
that situation, you would think that parents would be like, yeah,
make the key. That's good, the kids will do it
to learn a skill. They'd be like, no, just make
the teachers do it right. That gary fucking it would
be that they'd be like, my kid goes to school
to learn to sweep. You'd be like, oh god, that

(01:52):
is god. Yeah, oh no no, but you'd have to.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Maybe they could do it based on grade. You know what,
if you're getting less than a C, you're washing the floors.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Oh, then that would be That would be offensive somehow,
I did. I guarantee it. They'd be like, well, now
you're discriminating against kids who can't get better grades.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Oh, we're just giving them a different class, different courses,
trying to get them ready.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Believe me, dude, I think it would be incredibly fucking
smart to have like a regular well I mean all
the shit that I think they said in a.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Way we kind of had. We kind of had that
when we were younger, because they had home economics and stuff.
There was like woodworking, there were places, there were shop
in general, like there were places that okay, fine, you
weren't really sweeping, but guess who was cleaning wood shop
when they were done? All the fucking kids in the room.
Who was cleaning off all the tools? All the kids
in the room saying with homeac right, Like, I don't

(02:49):
know what it was like in the fifties, susy housemaker
kind of shit, but I assume it was the same thing.
You learn how to cook, you learn how to bake,
and then you clean up the oven, you clean up
your utensils, you know. And it's like these are.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Just basic shit that people would agree on at some point.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
I mean, granted this, but those are all gone now, dude,
those don't exist, Those classes don't even exist anymore.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Well, this is this is the unfortunate thing. It's it's
like there's always there's always something that evens it out
where you're like, wow, that just makes way more sense.
Why wouldn't they do that? And you're like, yeah, but
they also at the time, like believe that you should
fucking like black people can't drink out of the same
water fountain. You know, it'd be like like, you know what,
if you make a mess, you should clean it up. Like, wow,

(03:33):
that's pretty basic to like, and if you're black, you
should have to clean all the messes. You're like, well,
wait a second, how did that become a Yeah, I
get it's the nineteen fifties, sixties, seventies, eighties, maybe even
today if you're in the right part of the South.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
So the fuck knows, here's the big guy, Buttercake.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
But I don't know, man, I fucking I sat down
and I watched fucking all of that Rassi for the
main event, which I watched this morning, and it was

(04:25):
I don't know, dude, it's just getting real. It's real generic.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
It was not a good rock and it was not
a good raw wrestling suit. By the way, I'm Anthony's Joe,
your excellency, He's a little under the weather right now.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
But yeah, no, this is just a new voice I'm
trying out. People have my voices.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
We were sick of all your your prince voices.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Yeah, they didn't they didn't want me to do the
El Pardo del Real voice. They don't like that. So
now this is the new one I'm trying out. It's
called Sinus Infection. I think it's pretty good. I don't
know if I could hit the sets on this one.
It's a good thing he's injured.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yes, it's not like we have a lot of seth
news like what he's mentioning earlier.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
But oh no, I don't even know if that is true.
But I do know that raw happened. And I feel like,
you know, by the time we get to it on
a Wednesday, you're just like, oh shit, it's already kind
of like blown past. But then you realize SmackDown doesn't
mean anything, so you're like, yeah, it's got a little
bit more backdown.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
SmackDown has been dying in the ratings, so oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
I mean well, I mean, dude, a Friday night's still
eight o'clock at night, nothing really important on the show.
Why the fuck would it do good? Like I That
to me remains the confusing fucking part of this. I
feel like what kept SmackDown going for years was the
bloodline stuff.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Well it was like there was there used to be
like an actual, like method to the madness, right, So
SmackDown once you got to like April after after Rustlemania,
SmackDown would wind down because they people were getting out
of school, people were out, Like SmackDown writing became very
exhibition like, and you're like, okay, I get it. It's

(06:08):
Friday night. You guys are getting way less viewers in
the summer than you do in the winter when everybody's home.
Nobody's going out. Jesus Christ. It's like it's thirty degrees
right now with fifty degree winds or fifty mile prior
winds and twenty degree windshill. I'm not going out in
this shit. If they were showing SmackDown right now, I'd
be watching it. But that's what they always did, right,

(06:29):
So like in the summer, they wind it down. But
usually by the time Survivor series came around, yes, SmackDown
became important again. They started doing cool shit on SmackDown
as well as Raw. But I don't think they still
have that formula. I think that formula is gone and
everything feels like it's just coasting.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Well just on this Raw loan. I know that there's
all the stories about them using AI shit, and I
gotta say, it's starting to get a little toots, isn't it.
It's starting to almost look like the show itself is
fucking computer generated. If there weren't actual human beings experiencing
it live, I might actually believe that this was made

(07:12):
on a computer because it's so fucking generic. And I
know this pisses people off. It's all negative it Joe's
jo Nagadev. But I'm like, guys, it's just this show
just feels very very fucking It feels recycled.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
But you don't need AI for that. They've been going
to that notebook for the last twenty fucking years. Technically,
you don't need AI to do what they were doing
during the Vince era, you know what I mean? Like,
I understand what you're saying. You're saying it's very saccharine,
feels very calculated. I totally agree with you. We're going
to get to that when we start talking about the show.
But I don't even think. I don't even know if

(07:48):
I believe the AI should. I just think that's silly.
I think Triple H and all of them, all the
dayist of people that work with them, have a quid
pro quo that they go to whenever they don't have ideas,
and a lot of this war game stuff feels uninspired.
I guess we got John with us though for wargames,
which will be fun at least we can we can
all laugh at that. But yeah, this is the go

(08:10):
home stare.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
It's like, dude, do you think there's like a folder
the Triple Agent the writers have that's just as generic shit? Yes,
And they're like they're like, yeah, we don't got anything
for that. And they're like, oh, open the generic shit,
not even a folder like a doc Like you're like
going to the generic shit third pad file. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
No, I totally believe that. See now you're telling me
that that they've collected a bunch of plug and play
ideas over the years. Yes, absolutely, we've We've talked about
how bad just the tropes are sometimes in wrestling as
a whole, but even creatively, wwe goes back to the
same things. It was only a few maybe a few

(08:48):
weeks ago, maybe a month ago or so where they
did the exact same angle three times in one night.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah, right, and it was the same tad team story.
I believe, wasn't that what it was? Something like that, right,
with me and you were like, dude, didn't that just
happen twenty minutes ago. It's like, this is really fucking bad.
But I think that that might be it. Maybe they
have like a what's it called, like a graphic organizer
with like an empty or a madlib.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
A little power point presentation going for everybody to make
it real simple.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yeah, it's just it's just like and then Rhea comes
out and says, you're not gonna beat me for my title, right,
like just all fill in the path like mad libs,
ad libs, ww we has mad libs.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
They just switch out the adjectives.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
You know, triple H is feeling adjective. They're like, wait, man, I.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Know what the fuck I'm talking about. Mad Libs was
this stupid fucking thing that everybody had back in the
eighties and nineties where it was a word game where
they would give you like noun plural nouns adjectives and
you had to fill them in with words, but you
didn't know what you were filling in until the person

(10:03):
that was reading it off to you read back the
whole story.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah, this was like a road trip game back Oh yeah, yeah,
their own device that was basically what it.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Was before phones.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yeah, some person would have one in the car, and
you know, some little kid would probably have it, you know,
be like, well, you gotta give me the name of
a food, you know, right, And then inevitably, as you
got older, it would just be like then I ate
a poop, and then I took a pee, and people
would be like, this is fucking great. This is the
funniest thing I've ever heard in my life. Like that's

(10:34):
what it would become over times, but still better, still
better in a lot.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
And they made like a million of them too, Like
those mad libs, people really cashed in on on school work.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Yeah. Well, the funny thing is this, now you think
about it, you're like the mad lib books they were
written by humans. Now they could be written by AI
in three seconds. So I mean, somebody had that as
a some actual writer. Author would sit down and be like,
all right, we got to try to come up with
something funny, you know. But there was a guy, there

(11:08):
was a guy that was paying for his kid to
go to college as a mad lib writer. It's kind
of cool, awesome.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Wow, Yeah, Dan actually found there was a wwe madlibs.
That's fantastic. You know what, Now I'm gonna have to
get that Dan, because that's that's right up my alley.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Yeah, eBay, it is. By the way, it's probably been
taken out of circulation because they're actually using it currently
right now. Early with the story, lads, they don't want
you to fucking they don't want to ruin the next
year for you. But yeah, this this show was just
like right from the jump Man. The first twenty five

(11:46):
minutes were entrance address, where the place they were at? Yeah,
entrance address where the place sit there at? What do
you know? Another entrance address where the place that they're at.
I'm like, dude, this is fucking filler. Yeah, But then

(12:07):
I don't realize this is filler. I don't know what
to fucking tell you.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
They've been doing it for so long though. This is
another case of mad lips. It's plug and play. Because
if it wasn't Roman Reigns and see Them Punk and
Cody Rhodes, who would have Who would it have been?
Seth Rollins?

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Probably yep, Yeah, it had been Sad, there would be anybody.
But like to the extent of listen, I obviously understand
the dynamics of a live show you're supposed to have
the people engaged. They're also all into the entrances. It's
all about entrances, all this shit, right, right, But twenty
I think it was by the time, I was fucking

(12:46):
because I was just scooting through them because it was
taking so fucking long. I'm like, it was almost twenty
five minutes to get anything to happen on the show.
I'm like, that's a whole episode of the fucking Simps.
So can we talk.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
About the ashhock content to write? Like, so you want
to pull apart the long entrances and the crowd pop
and also they did this year for the usso's Layer.
We'll get to that. But the content was absolutely fucking worthless.
It's nothing. Yes, oh it's my team. Oh it's your team. Well,

(13:21):
why isn't it my team? Oh it's your team? Romand
comes up, Well, you know, I am the one with
the family. This is a family thing.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
And I'm just like, what do you write? Why do
I give a fuck about this at all? Like?

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Why does this manufactured drama? Bullshit?

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Right? It means it means nothing. Nobody like this doesn't okay,
why would see him punk who's supposed to be like
a guy that's a loner and whatever's you know, It's like,
you know, no, it's my team. Why does he care? Right,
why does he care? It's not about him leading a team.
It's about him getting revenge on people who were fucking
with him. Like, it just doesn't match a character at all. Cody.

(14:01):
Cody's on a well show.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
If he was a he character doing the straight edge society,
everybody'd be fucking bald by now.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yeah yeah, but it also still man like to some degree,
it doesn't match who he is one way or the other.
And and Cody also is like Cody's kind of mister Rara,
Like he's a team guy anyways. So for him to
be like, oh well what about Cody, I'm like, that's
not how Cody is. Roman's that guy. Roman's a dickhead.

(14:31):
Roman does that whole I'm the fucking leader, I'm the chief.
So I get him having that attitude, but then for
some reason he still ends up with the upper hand.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Well that's the problem, right, because they're still putting their
chips behind Roman. Like at this point, it's like put
him behind fucking Cody. Cody's your guy. Look, I know
a lot of people love Roman, but we were joking
about that too. It's like, so you guys are still
going to push the blood cancer dude who only works
once every six months.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Okay, fantastic, that's the that's who we're focusing a spotlight on. Still.
I mean, I'm not saying as though, obviously he should
be treated as an attraction because he is at this point.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Yeah, but not not the bud. I don't know, is
this really the attraction though? Like? Do we want him
to be the main guy oft fucking war games? Like?
I think there's more for cm punk. I think there's
more for Cody. Obviously, Cody's story, I'm sure that's gonna
ramp up before we get to WrestleMania. But you know,
we can't forget about the Rock involvement. That may or
may not happen. Nobody fucking knows anymore.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
But I mean, there's stillbody really even wants at this boy.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
I know, but I almost feel like I wouldn't be
surprised if if you saw the Rock show up in January?
Would you be surprised?

Speaker 1 (15:45):
No? Of course not. His movie failed, He's gonna probably do.
He'll end up doing Jumanji five soon enough. You know
something like that. It's just and he'll need to promote
it because he's got to completely abandon this. Him and
independ did film star thing. It's it's a it's a
goof fest. But yeah, the way that this played out

(16:05):
once again, like I said, it feels like it's being
written by a fucking computer because like there was nothing
to it. Like you said, no, I'm the leader of this. No,
why won't type be the leader?

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (16:18):
I guess I'm the leader.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
And then gets the final word. He walks out. He
says that title look better on me, and then see
them Ponk and Cody are scratching their head like little monkeys, going,
did you mean me?

Speaker 1 (16:31):
It's sick burn queen, Like I was not, title bugs
better on me.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
I'm just like, please, let's let these guys lose. I
just want them all to lose. Now. That was just
so cringey.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
It was bad.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
It was bad. These are supposed to be the badasses.
These are supposed to be the heroes that fans are
paying money to see to defeat the evil ones. You know,
the evil vision. But why the vision's kind of coolie.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
I don't even go that far.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
But rue I mean, we'll get to the logan shit too,
But all.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Right, the way that the faces are being presented, though,
you're right, it's like they sound like caddy bitches. They
sound like sassy girls that are like eah, I can't
ange thinking. It's like, it's this real housewives? What are
we doing here?

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Well, they're better than fucking they were with Seth, right,
like I have more faith in Drew. I have no
problem with Brock. I know a lot of people don't
like Brock but again, another example of what you were
saying before in Attraction, he doesn't need a title. He
comes in there, he fucking wrecks everybody, even though he
damn near slips and kills himself. He comes out there
to wreck everybody, and then he leaves. He does his job,

(17:37):
and then he leaves. I have no problem with Brocken
and I know that that's something that people that pissed
people off for a very long time. I think it
was more agitating when Brock had a championship and he
wasn't around. But now that he has nothing, Yeah, let
him come out as the heater, you know.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
I have no problem with that, right, And there's also
something too, like Roman without the belt has absolutely nothing.
So that's only that's like the only character that can
lean in to for him, because he's like, I abuse
my family and I have a belt. That's it. That's
that's the whole fucking thing that surrounds the guy. And
now it's like, well, I guess I can't abuse my

(18:13):
family and I don't have a belt, so I got nothing.
You're like, well, I don't know, man, I don't know
what to tell you. But yeah, this this was, like
I said, a half an hour of my life that
I'm sitting there and I'm going, what's the fucking point
of this. I don't understand why it takes so long
to do this? Yeah, and the people in the crowd,
I'm sure, like I know that they think. The people

(18:33):
in the crowd are fucking loving it. But scooted along. Man,
everybody's attention spans.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
There was something less I was paying attention. There was.
There was more than a few yawns caught on camera, man,
and that's never good at a live show. You don't
want everybody Mike tysoning that shit.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
So and they're in and they're in Oklahoma, for God's sakes, like.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
This is you know what else? They got to do.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Yeah, I guess maybe that's it. They're like, they're like, well,
the alternative is sitting at the gas station. That's about it.
That's all we got going for us. But yeah, now
that the first half an hour of this show was
fucking nothing, it's really a shame. But yeah, not a surprise.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
We go to the Last Time is Now tourney with
Carmelo Hayes and Gunther gun through the line.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
Yeah, Carmelo, I mean, Carmelo is incredibly fucking liked. You
can tell, like, that's why it's even funnier. There was
some dirt sheet thing I remember a couple of weeks
ago where they were like, hey man hates Carmelo Hayes.
Oh my doc, nobody hates that kid. Everybody likes that
fucking kid. I don't know. I have never once heard

(19:43):
a crossword about him ever from anyone. And at this
point he's on television. He's obviously in good shape, but
he's still undersized. He doesn't have a huge personality, but
he's a good enough worker and they like him. That's
why they feature them, like there's no that's kind of
what he that's kind of what you're gonna get out
of him. You're gonna get a good match from a

(20:05):
guy that people know was a nice guy. And in
this Gunter gave him a lot. And it shows you
that Gunter likes and takes him seriously and the people
want him to do well. But I'm not sure if
it's gonna happen for him.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
You know, well, they they made a lot of references
to both of these guys dominating n XT once upon
a time, and I will say that, and I don't
know if you feel this way, but Gunther seems to
have lost a little steam. I don't know if that's
because he took some time off or if it's just
because of how he's come back since the Jay Usso stuff.
I'm really not sure. And I'm not saying that Gunther

(20:40):
is bad in any way, but it feels like there's
a little spark missing, that's all. And I don't I
don't know if that means anything or if it's just
something that's lase fair. It'll disappear in a while, But
what do you think about Gunther and Gunther's performance.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
Well, at this point, they also gave him. I'm not
trying to be too shitty because I like the people
that he's so far faced in the tournament. But it's
like the audience hasn't really fucking seen javaon that much,
even though that was also a good match. And Carmelo Hayes,
which another guy for what he's been shown to by

(21:17):
the audience, he's been hidden away on SmackDown like a
lot of people are at this point. They are not
even super into whatever the fuck is going on with Carmelo.
So the guys hit, you know, these matches back with people,
and the audience isn't even invested in seeing him beat them, right,
And from what I'm seeing is unless they're talking about

(21:38):
it somewhere on the internet, I don't know, YouTube or
one of the other shows. Shouldn't Gunter kind of be
talking shit at this point?

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Yes? Absolutely, I Mean this was a guy that was
a cornerstone of the company, held the title for a
record amount of time. Like there's there's there's this weird
vibe he doesn't belong in this tournament. That that's kind
of how I feel like this tournament is beneath him.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
And well, I maybe it's so much so that he
doesn't bother like he shouldn't be in a mess as
much as he should be kind of, like I said,
talking shit. They should be giving him the mic and
he should be saying, you know, you know these are
my opponents, you know, both of these guys like well,
they're both the size of one of my legs. I could,
you know, defeat these guys with two fingers, you know whatever.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
They're trying to think a genie back in the bottle
because for a very long time there, Gunther was stoic
and you're right then we heard him shit talk and
he had those great backstage promos where he's in jay
USO's locker room talking ship to him, just sitting there like,
I mean, there was there's different pitch.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Yeahs I missed the chance of beach bussy there.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Gunther is very capable on the microphone, and I'm not
saying that they're taking it away from him, but he
feels like he's kind of taking a step back. Maybe
it's not a bad thing. Maybe it's just until he
gets into the rhythm like it's being seven.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
But I suppose. But you know what, if you got
twenty five minutes for the top guys to say nothing
to each other, you have thirty seconds for Gunter to
say something on the microphone before a match.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
True, I mean you.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Truly do like this And still, like I said, you know,
I'm not one of these people that thinks everybody should
have promos all the time because it doesn't help them.
But at this point, yes, Gunter has returned. Yes, they're
obviously going to either put him in the finals of
the semi finals, which he obviously is already in the semis.
And he's not saying anything. We know, yeah, we know

(23:35):
he can help himself in this. We know he can
help his opponents to some degree, and he's not saying
shit why, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
I really don't know. It's once again, it's just a
weird decision. But once again it's just we'll see what
happens in the immediate future. We've got Dominic Mysterio promo
that happened. Oh no, this was the USO. Sorry. After this,
usso's criticizing the air Plents for not being on the
same page. It's like this weird walking promo where you're

(24:04):
like have to step out of the camera, like we
gotta go do something else besides talk to this microphone.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
But yeah, I will, I will say, God that these
two need each other right, I mean, good heavens anything,
like just even Jimmy as the guy there to just
afterwards tag up what Jay is saying, no pun intended.
This is so much better for him than Jay just
sitting there wine crying, you know, like they need to

(24:33):
be together. The singles push was a nice idea, and
I know they're gonna keep it going, so God fucking
help us. But those two together are an act. You
can do a lot with them still and it works.
But yeah, separately, not so much, No, not so much,
if at all, like they should be together or bust.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
I think it's the right thing, right, Like, if we're
playing this out the way that USO's career has kind
of launched as single stars, I think this is the
right way to do it because they kind of both
sucked at it in their own way. Whether you want
to blame the booking or creative or just blame their
lack of talent or ability to stand on their own.

(25:16):
They tried wwe tried it met some marginal success at
least for merchandise, right for Jay Uso especially, and now
they're back together because that's where they're strongest. They tried
the separate thing. It worked a little bit until it
didn't and now they're back to Quidbrook.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Well so and there's nothing. And once again, like I
think that people take that as a negative, but it's
you know, not everybody's supposed to be on top for
fucking ten years. Not everybody supposed to have this forever run,
even when people were losing their shit, when like Kovie
Kingston wasn't immediately put in the championship picture. Again, it's like, yeah, dude,

(25:54):
not everybody is supposed to be the big main wrestler
because they get pushed one for half a decade. And
I know that you get fooled into thinking that if
you watch the show, because what look what they do
with Roman, Look what they do with this guy, Look
what they do with that guy. But that's not always
supposed to be the case, and it's not always worth

(26:14):
the fucking squeeze.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
It's a different type of situation though, too. I mean,
like that whole Shield stable broke up and when they
tried putting it back together, it fell apart. Like they
always try to keep that relationship between the Dean Ambrose
and the seth Rolins going, but they all kind of
moved down in their own way. So, I mean, I
understand what you mean by Roman where some tag teams

(26:36):
are some stables, you know, don't have to exist forever,
like an nWo type. But I think that's that's that.
I don't know. I kind of like, if this is
them coming back together and they're kind of getting rid
of Jay Usso's weird heel turn, not he'll turn because
I still have this weird feeling Joe, and I don't
know if you still have it. Is he is he

(26:57):
still in the running to join the Vision.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
I feel like if they do that on Saturday and
now you have this giant group of these like half
baked guys, I mean, I just that's not gonna do
much for you. I mean Bronson, who's very good, but
he's not gonna be your actual leader, Logan and Paul,
which we'll get to state, Cop who clearly still needs time,

(27:26):
and Drew, who I love Drew, but I don't think
Drew's ever going to fucking win anything again. At that point,
you just ended up with like a bunch of guys
who are mid carters at best to middle upper carters
at the time, who nobody really believes it some extent,
you know, like they're not. I don't know. I just

(27:48):
I feel like if they put Jay in there, that's
almost that's more accepting the Jay Uso push failed than
putting him back with his brother, turning him turning him
here is more accepting that this thing failed than just
having them go with his brother and having and be like,
you know what, I me and my bro are gonna
work together for a little bit, but like it's just

(28:10):
me oose when the time comes, I'm gonna blub blah
blah blah blah. As opposed to making him a bad guy,
which will suck eggs. Yeah, that will blow. That'll totally
fucking stink. But no, like, yeah, we'll have to see
if they decide to go in that direction. Like I said,
I don't think that will go swimmingly.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
We had the Domic Mysterio promo and he did fantastic
ali or I don't even know how to pronounce that.
But the Triple A show was fantastic. And there's a
couple of caveats now, especially after all, what the fuck
is going to happen? But it was a good show.
We had LuFisto and Jeff Litman cover it, and it's
on the Wrestling Soup Feed. If you haven't checked it

(28:51):
out yet, do so. But it was a good show.
It's probably the best show of the month easy so far.
I mean, we can cross our fingers about war games,
but I think the Triple A show was a lot
more fun. But yeah, we had Dominic Mysterio out there,
and he called out John Cena saying that John Cena
wasn't there, and and John Cena's shorter version showed out.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Dann do do I even have to fucking say this
out loud? I mean voices?

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Why are they playing Vince's hits? That's that's the one
that bothers me. I like, the midget thing was totally
a Vinces.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
How fucking just dated, guys, is twenty twenty five, we're
still doing not Oh look what it's a jays a
little person, it's a dwarf. That that fucking joke. Oh
my god, fucking Christ, that's so stale. And by the way,

(29:52):
it's not even like I'm like, oh, because you know
it's a little person or someone a midget, or I'm offended.
I'm like, no, it's just fucking done to death.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
It's like, take my wife please.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yeah, it's just oh god, no, you're right. It's it's
that it's borat. I mean, we're still really like, oh,
here's my opponent. Couldn't git jure my opponent, but it's
a midge. Nope, they're in a little outfit like, fucking guys,
if you have nothing, if you can't come up with

(30:24):
anything better than that, you fucking suck. You're horrible at
your jobs. Get some new ideas, like I know, like
I'm like people get fucking like, like, why are you
so negative? Dude? How am I supposed to put a
positive spin on this? Other mom did his best with
whatever this was.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Which was which was kind of funny itself. But here's
here's my positive spin. Here's your mister damas stuff. The
only reason they had a midget angle was because Hornswaggle
was on Stephanie McMahon's podcast a few weeks ago and
maybe he pitched.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
It oh boy or the or the fucking chat GBT
told them full well, mesh, I mean, this was so
unconvincing shaping to the crowd that John Sena's music hit
and the people at Oklahoma didn't even pop because they
because they knew it was probably gonna be a fucking dwarf.

(31:18):
They knew it was just gonna be like a fake scena,
and it's like this bag of tricks, this samesy shit
you can't do. Like your audience is not They don't
have fucking amnesia. For God's sake, sos WW aware of
this at this point. I know a lot of seven
year olds and like little kids that are watching wrestling

(31:38):
to some extent, But the vast majority of your audience
has watched it long enough that you're not gonna fucking
get what do you, by the way, like, what's the
intent of this? Are you supposed to Are you supposed
to think that's funny?

Speaker 2 (31:52):
It was? I think it was. And this was the
only reason I could kind of understand it was because
Dominic felt like he was improv a little bit when
he was telling the guy, hey, stay on script, you know,
and I'm like, oh see, look, this is Dominic planning
it out. I do kind of agree with the money
in the chat. Mister money, he says, Hornswaggle should have
been the one to do the sceny thing. Yeah, actually

(32:14):
that would have made him.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
That would have been funnier. That would have been not.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Only that, but the fans would have known who horn
Swaggle was, and you would have felt bad for him
when Dominic kicked his ship out of him.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yeah it could have been if it had ha been
Hornswaggle and he did it, and then horn Swaggle picked
up the fucking mike and was like, hey, you know,
just so you know, yeah, John Cena sucks, he's a
fucking loser, and blah blah blah blah blah, and then
he does something to piss off Dom and Dom kicks
him and then you know, out comes Ray or whatever.

(32:45):
Some this would have at least been something.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
But yeah, choices matter, You're right, choices matter. We didn't
know who this guy was. Although he was yoked for
a little man, he was buff. I was like, damn, dude,
this guy.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
From he's curling gallons of milks. He's doing good, but
I know, but good by the way, just so you know,
that's a shitty. That's a cheesy joke I just made there.
This is like such fucking it's hacky shit. It's like, oh,
we're gonna bring out whoever the girl is that I
am as my opponent, and you bring out a big, giant,

(33:21):
fat lady and you're like, get it, because she's a big,
fat lady. Right, that's not what she looks like. She's
not a fat lady at all. Like, oh god, try
fucking try. I'm begging you people. You're making billions of
dollars and this is the dog shit you're putting on television.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Another recycled bit, like I wonder if there's like a
timeline where it's like, okay, it's been two years and
three months, we can officially do this again, you know,
And it's.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Like, how about this, right, this is how you make
that fucking work in any capacity, In any capacity, you
have your plant, the fucking guy side, the little guy
at the ringside somewhere first row, second row or whatever. Right,
and then he John minickets out of there and goes, oh,
people are like John Ceno. Oh, you literally can't see him.

(34:10):
I can't see John Cena anywhere. Let me get out there.
And he starts walking around the ring. Oh, I don't
see anybody. Oh, hen you guys see a sena? And
then you just have a fucking dwarf guy dressed full
of sena. And he goes, oh, I think I think
I see sena. And then he pulls him over and
starts fucking stopping him out. At least that's a thing,
right right, At least that's a thing nobody believes. Like
I said, you're in Oklahoma. These people are like seventieth

(34:33):
in education out of fifty states, and even they're fucking
smart enough to know that that bullshit ain't gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Fucking idiotic fifty shades of Josh said that that's Sicko
from the midget wrestling promotion.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
So sorry, sorry, Oki fiftieth, I was exaggerating. That's also
a he's in Oklahoma and he knows, he knows he's
that boy. But that yeah, Oklahoma, no way believe it
or not. No, but this was a fucking get the
fuck out of here with this bullshit. Dude. Then what
I fucking joke.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
The ray mystereo come out there to to save the
little person you send, You send a little person to
save a little person.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
Like I like that idea where it's just like, you know,
oh shit, you got like a big giant cut and
they put like a tiny little band aid on it,
and they're like put a slightly bigger band aid on it.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
See this is the point when you know who should
have came out for something like this, and obviously there's
no correlation anymore. But you send out a Damien Priest,
somebody who towers over Dominicks, you know what I mean, Like,
you send the exact opposite. Oh look, Dominic's making fun
of this small version of John Cena. Send somebody out
there who's clearly way bigger than Dominic and it's.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
Like, yeah, yeah, to scare them off.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
If Damian Priest had something to do, you know, like.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Well that would be come on the computer. Did not
tell them that Damien Price had something to do this week?
You gotta remember that. I don't know what happened. I
think maybe when they put it in they just it's
just generic fucking bullshit. That's dog shit.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Name says what about truth? Yeah? Truth would have been
a great choice. They could have went a million different directions.
I know why they went with Ray Mysterio obviously the
connection there, But.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
What if, yeah, if it out there actually thought it
was John, Like what.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Yeah, right? That could have been funny as hell? Right?
How could you do that in the scene?

Speaker 1 (36:26):
Now? Are you trying to soften them up for Saturday?
Like at least something interesting or entertaining or creative or
clever in any fucking capacity, and it's just not there.
It's real fucking bad.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
It's a simple, simple process too. It's not even like
you're you're asking for a lot. It's not like, hey,
what we need is all right, we need the cameras
to go off site, like no, no, none of that.
Literally just you got all these people in the back, right.
This isn't everybody at every show, pretty much like I
don't know. Yeah, so yeah, Ray Ray came out there

(37:01):
and YadA YadA, and then we go to Ray Mysterio
versus Jady McDonald which was fine match. It was fine.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
It was probably the only real, like full match on
the show, I feel like to some extent.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
And it was weird too because I mean they spent
a lot of time glazing JD McDonough, which I thought
was kind of great, and they brought up, you know,
the last person ever take a Scena finisher was Jady
McDonough and that's going to go in the history books,
and I'm like, yeah, I said that the other week.
I'm like, this kid was probably really excited to be
the the quote unquote last one, you know.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Last fall guy. They clearly like McDonagh and this kid works.
He's on these raws man like, he wrestles a lot,
and I think that the shows that obviously they trust
him to do the right thing. He has good he
has good to very very good, consistently entertaining matches, and yeah,

(37:53):
I mean that's why you put him on this fucking show.
And you know he's going to be safe with Ray.
You know they're going to have a good match that
makes sense, and they did that. I mean, this was
one of the better things on the show, following the
hour of filler that happened before it.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
I did think it was a little odd too, that
Dominic wasn't involved with the Mysterio match and that Jad
McDonald loss. I'm like, oh wow, this is gonna be
one of those setups where Mysterio loses and Dominic wins,
and yeah, I don't know. It was just there was
another case where it's like, okay, now you can see
the writing on the wall, and then they don't do

(38:28):
it like you set up.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
How about just instead of this mish if they hadn't
really wanted to fucking do something, If you're gonna bother
with the fucking little guy, why don't you just have
it be a fucking tag match.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
That's too. I mean, imagine he's a wrestler, why not.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
I mean imagine the little guy trying to pick up
JD McDonough for an AA, but I would just be
a bad funny JD.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
McDonough has to work like a big.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
Come on, that's at least that has the opportunity to
be interesting. You're funny. But instead, once again, like I said,
just generic fucking slop bull bullshit. Yeah, but this match was,
like I said, it was one of the better things
on the show. Obviously McDonough is a good worker and
can be trusted, and you know they're having them on

(39:16):
a lot. Finn at this point is just like he's
like a hood ornament. It's weird, is hood like? Is
Finn hurt? Is that the reason why he's not wrestling anymore?

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Basically emotionally?

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Yeah? Maybe that's is that why he's Is he having
a midlife crisis, That's why he's dressing like Pacific sunwear
fucking clothing.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Well, Bailey's just more attention. So you know, it's just.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
Well, no, this was this is good. You know, this
was what This was good. This was fine. I have
nothing better.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Wow, And then we follow it up. We follow it
up with the weird Becky lynch nya Jack slash Legends
all coming out there with Kyrie and Osca to talk
about the women's War Games match and Becky Becky telling
lash Legends she's gonna take her into the moon and

(40:08):
then talking about I I I'm tired of adhd Becky.
I'm tired of.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
You know what. You know what Becky's gimmick is, and
people don't like when it's anti aj Lee.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Is what she's supposed to be at this point because.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
He supposed to be She's supposed to be Trump Dude.
That's her whole thing that she's doing. That's like the post,
that's the tweets that she's putting up the least. This
is what I've seen, Like she's supposed to be that
type of character, which for a little irish lady is
kind of funny, but in this setting it was once
again like it's just Becky doing Becky shit, and she'd

(40:49):
been doing a good job. I think she'd been doing
fine with this, but it's yet another segment where they're like, well,
how do we flesh out two minutes of shit into
into ten minutes. That's basically what they're doing it again, it's.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
The same thing. It's it's one thing when it's a
one off or two off. Thank god, she's still not
talking about her hot husband. Like this is where we're
at with her, Like you can give her praise for
one week and it's like, oh, Becky, that was a
great promo. I like the way you cornered Paul Hayman.
That made sense, Like Paul Hayman doesn't have to watch

(41:24):
out for dudes wanting to kick the shit out of them.
Now there's a wife that wants to kick the shit
out of them. Like, I like that side of it.
But then you go back to this neurotic version of
her whether I I mean, I guess Trump. I wasn't
seeing that at all. It's more like, oh, no, I've
seen that neurotic twit and yeah, people people find everything
and everything, So I just don't immediately believe what social

(41:46):
media tells me.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
You have you seen the tweets. The tweets are definitely rich.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
I've seen some of her tweets. Yeah, I haven't seen
all of them. Which ones were the ones where she
was like waving the Trump banner no, no.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
No, no no, not that she was waving the banner.
She's like that cadence and the style of speak and
the way that she's typing shit out like it's very similar.
It's copying. Yeah, it's copying his post stuff. I gotcha.
I don't, dude, I don't know. Like I said, once again,
we take shit that's supposed to be two minutes long
and make it into ten. And you know, you and

(42:19):
I we've done many shows for many hours in our lives,
and we get the idea of getting a lot of
juice out of something. We know there's a lot of
times where you it's a story and it ends up
being funnier longer than it takes to do it. But
that's not most of the shit on the show at
this point. It's it's teaching somebody how to make a
fucking peanut butter and jelly sandwich for two and a

(42:41):
half hours. They just ring it dry. Yah, they ring
it the fuck dry. And also, by the way, Nya
Jacks looked like a fucking sack of oranges? Did you
notice that too? What was if she's dressing her she
needs to stop dressing herself. Truly, it looks and this

(43:02):
isn't like making fun of her because her weight. It
just looks bad, right, It genuinely looks bad. But yeah,
this was, like I said, it was a filler segment.
If anything, this was good for Lash because Lash is
fucking dude. She's huge, man, She's a big woman. She
looks like she could kick the fucking shit out of somebody,

(43:23):
which is needed for that group, like the people that
you got seeing in the ring at that point, She's
way more believable than a lot of the other women,
So I'll fucking take it with her, you know.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
Well, then you had Ripley come out there after Becky
beat shots at her about wearing a mask, and then
you had Charlotte and Bliss, and then aj Lee shows
up and they have the Team versus Team got out
of the ring and aj Lee says something like I
kicked the shit out of you, but now I've gone therapy,
and I'm thinking to myself, I'm like, oh, okay, I'll look,

(43:55):
there's a mini therapy chant going. But it kind of
bothers me because it's like, well, then, why in the
fuck are you even having a match of war games?
Like it's just are you mocking therapy or are you
mocking the wrestling, Like I'm not sure, and I'm and
maybe I'm looking too deeply into it, right because I
do that sometimes. But it just seems like a very

(44:18):
stupid angle to take when we're supposed to believe that, ooh,
you hate this becky girl and you want to beat
her ass because she just doesn't get it and the
only way she's gonna get it is if you aj
Lee kick her ass. And people want you to kick
her ass. But you're like, but I go to a therapy.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Now. The funny the funny thing about that, and I
didn't even think of it from this angle when you
pointed that out, like it's like a she kind of
making fun of therapy, Like it's a very weird thing,
because clearly I am glad that this woman's doing well.
I want her to do well. I think she's talented.
I'm not one of these people that think that like,

(44:56):
mental health isn't fucking real. But when you it has
a character, and ye, you're right to some extent when
you sit there and you go, you know, oh, well,
I'm also kind of crazy even though I go to therapy,
I'm like, all right, so what's the character is.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
It that therapy doesn't work? Like a little confused by
You're right, especially that because she just dropped that big
interview that she did with Stephanie again, what's your story?
Really good? I think it was like almost two hours
or something like that, but she gets right into it
with Stephanie talking about the tweets when they laughed, and
she got into her therapy. She talked about her book,

(45:37):
you know, she talked about the Women's Division and how
she felt about like it was deep. She talked about
her poverty, you know, self described dirt poor. So it
was a very candid interview and it was what you
would expect to hear or what you would want to
hear from somebody you want to cheer for too, Like,
I know that this is the real person, But at

(45:58):
the same time, if you're trying develop that into the
character about therapy and stuff, you kind of like hearing
from her. You kind of like hearing this comeback story
from a shitty life. It makes you feel good, right,
it makes you feel like you can overcome things. And
yet on Monday Night Raw here she is talking about
being well adjusted and then just throwing it away to

(46:20):
beat up on Becky, and I just I don't know,
Like I said, maybe it's because I watched too much
of this shit. Maybe if I didn't watch the interview,
it wouldn't have meant anything. But I don't know.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
Man, Well, I mean, she could also wrap it up
pretty neatly in a bow as far as being like,
you know, everybody knows that I did. You know, I
went and I took care of myself and I did
what was right for me. But don't think, you know,
don't think just because a bitch ain't crazy anymore that
she ain't crazy something like that. Just something really bringing

(46:49):
it back around to like, but I'm actually tough and
I'm gonna kick the shit out of you or something.
But I mean, I don't know what the fuck do
I know, because clearly she does. She's over. People fucking
like her. They want to see her at these mattress
they're glad to see her back. We're just picking apart
in myopic ship on this show because there's a lot
of stuff on it that is so fucking boring and

(47:09):
vague and poorly written.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
Never mind the fact that Charlotte is hanging out when
you know it wasn't that long ago that she was like,
fuck you bitches, I don't want to hang out anymore.
But no, it's like everything's.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
Okay, yeats, like whatever, right, it's a paycheck, guys, the
fuck I don't know. And then they and then they
all yeah, and then they fought on and then.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
The end of that, that's literally what happened. The heels
go in the back and they all do the weird
crouch thing, another fucking wonderful trope. It's like, ooh, you've
been beaten, so now you have to bow on the
way back up the ramp and okay, sure.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
The slap squad that's what they did.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
Yeah, Jesus Christ. Then we got Solo versus Penta, which
sucks absolutely for Penta because on the Triple A show
he got a huge ovation because it was him and
his brother, the Luca Brothers making their challenge against Dominic

(48:12):
and l Grande, and that's supposed to be I thought
it was supposed to be the main event for the
next show, which would have made a lot of sense.
But now what the fuck do they do? Not only
did they ruin Pence's Last Time is Now tournament match,
but now what the fuck is he gonna do for
Triple A if he's injured.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
Has anybody reported that's actually, you know, trustable or trustworthy.
It was a shoulder thing, I assume, right.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
So the way that he.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
Landed, it looked like it was something with the showlder.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
Yeah, it looked like it was. Supposedly he tried to
put it back in or something like that. So okay,
here you go. According to from No d Q, they
stopped the match because he was suffering an injury. On Tuesday,
Penta offered a public statement on Twitter, quote, thank you
everyone who's checked in out me. The injury test in
my body and spirit, but it's also awakened the strength
that has always guided me. I'm a Mexican warrior, forged

(49:06):
in struggle, honor, and heart, and though the fall was hard,
I rose with a fire stronger than ever. Corinthians three
four to my rival, my deepest respect. Thank you for
all your professionalism and a clean, dignified battle. I recognize
your dedication and honor. I will be back very soon, stronger,
more prepared and determined to finish. When I left pending,

(49:26):
thank you all for standing with me, because this war
still has chapters to be written.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
I mean sure, Penter responded with, aw, that's so no,
do you know. Want to know what's really kind of
a fucking shame with Penta is that this should have
been happening on WWTV five fucking years ago, you know
what I mean? Like that, really I feel like watching
this now because pent is not a young guy either.

(49:52):
Pent is like forty some early forties, you know, And
if it's he hurt his shoulder, it's like, dude, I
don't know a wrestler that has not hurt their shoulder,
like has some sort of like they dislocate the like
they have one shoulder that dislocates easier, just even the
act of like people don't even think about shit like this,

(50:13):
But if you watch somebody throw a clothes line, right,
when is your shoulder supposed to do that? What else
are you doing in your life as a human being
that go go actually, don't do this? Yes, yeah, go
go run at something heavy and put your arm out
and run into it and see what happens. See how

(50:33):
your fucking arm feels. Now do that four times.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
It actually made my arm a lot better from doing that.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Yes, and Prince, yes, rest fuck up their shoulder too.
Hence why bolts. My shoulders are fucked up, Like my
right one dislocates and has multiple multiple times, and now
to compensate, my left one is now hurting more in
my left right one's feeling better. It's like it, Yeah,
you just what fucking happens. But he's an older man

(51:02):
at this point. Once again, if this was a guy
in his mid thirties, he might be physically in a
better place.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Right.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
I don't know. I hope he comes back quickly. Obviously
he's over a shit. He's a fucking talented guy. He's
adapted to the company in such a good way, and
it would be a goddamn shame if he was out.
I don't know, three to six months or whatever. But
I can almost guarantee you, as a Lusiah Door who's
wrestled to eat, this is some sort of problem that

(51:31):
he's had that he hasn't addressed since twenty sixteen.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Oh yeah, it's probably like an whole injury. I wouldn't
doubt there.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
Oh yeah, I could guarantee you, Like I mean, just
even like you said at the time, I was gonna.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
Saw it shit though, Like you're you've got all these
people invested in your match, against Dominic and El Grande,
who are clearly the biggest stars in Triple A. I mean,
it is insane. The pops that they got, it is insane,
the pop that El Grande got. It was funny because,
like you know, WWE has problems, although I will say

(52:04):
for Oklahoma, for whatever reason, they allowed them to have
markers and signs again, which was nice. There's a lot
of signs in the audience, but in Tripa A they're
like handmaking flags and banners with like gold leaf on it,
with El Grande's face on it, and I'm like, Jesus Christ,
I don't remember fans being that fucking articulate. And it

(52:27):
was great too, because he's coming down to the ring
and he's kissing his own face and I'm like, this
is just this is fucking awesome. These are the kind
of fans you miss in wrestling, the ones that you know,
we're spending at least a week on making up their
perfect sign, you know, sewing it together, hot gluing and shit. Like.
It was awesome. And they did one for Dominict two,

(52:49):
but Dominic ignored it because he's Dominic. But It's like
it was it was really cool to see it was
really cool that they were even though they were the
bad guys. They're the the the the insurgents. The fans
ate them up, and it's like, as soon as you
saw the Luca brothers come on the screen, you heard
that crowd lose their shit because it's almost like, this

(53:11):
is what we want and Triple A is like, well,
here you fucking go. This is what you want.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
This what you get.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
Meanwhile, in WWE Land, so we went on to Solo
Socoa versus Pento in a match that nobody really wanted.
Oh okay, sure.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
And then he gets hurt in it and that's it.
That's how it goes. So I don't know, man, I
like Solo more as a person. I think he seems
like he's fucking rules as a dude. He seems like
a fucking cool dude.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
But that holds you don't like him as the leader
of the black and White Juggalos.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
I mean, oh yeah, back to black and white Juggle.
I know. It's like they're not even in corpse paint. No,
they literally.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Nineteen sixteen Juggalos, you know, not?

Speaker 1 (54:04):
How do they work?

Speaker 2 (54:06):
All right?

Speaker 1 (54:08):
Yeah, there's no there's nothing, there's no steam behind that
and by the way, so is Solo. The only one
that doesn't put the face paint on? Is that the point?

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Yeah, he's in color, bro, He's that's in color.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
That's kind of weird if you think about it, right,
five four or five other dudes around you, and they're
all fucking face painted up, and you're just like, I'm
a guy. I'm just the dude. How's it going.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
I'm three dimensional? These are my two d puppets, you know.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
It's like any that once again speaking of like a
generic comedy, right, it's like the video where it's like
a whole bunch of like tough, fucking gangster guys and
they're like a dude walks by with like a tucked
in polo shirt and he's like, hello, fellas, what's going on.
It's like, well, one of these things is not like
the other except the thing that we're supposed to take
seriously that's not like the others is that he's like

(55:00):
a tough guy, but he actually just stands out in
a weird way. But I don't know, he's samowing, so
he should be okay for the next three to twenty years.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
I think it was at this point. I don't know,
we actually missed the where they actually talked about it,
but they had this weird promo with Paul Hayman and
the rest of the vision and Logan Paul's like, well,
who's gonna fight the Huso's blah blah blah, And it
comes down to Logan Paul pointing at everybody in the
room and then eventually pointing to himself and going, oh,

(55:32):
you made it, you made the good choice, Paul or whatever,
Like he gets into this low, gravelly accent and he
starts throwing his weight around, like Logan Paul is supposed
to be an irritable YouTube guy that's only here based
upon his laurels of fame, and it feels like they're

(55:55):
trying to transform him into a badass, into a guy
that hangs out with bron Breaker, into a guy that
hangs out with Drue McIntyre, when that's not his appeal.
His appeal is how cocky he is, how arrogant he is,
and that's supposed to also be his flaw is that

(56:16):
he thinks he's good, he thinks he's great, and then
somebody comes out there and fucking breaks his back and
makes him humble.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
And right state that's State CoP's job. State Copp is
supposed to be the tough guy, right, the big, the
big fucking you know New Zealand Australia guy. He's supposed
to be the tough guy blog and Paul's supposed to
be there, sunglasses between them, going, Paul, no one's gonna
beat us. Look at us. We're so fucking cool man,
Look how awesome we are. You know, look at these losers.

(56:45):
They're gonna try to fuck us up. They won't stand
in the goddamn chair like that.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
He should Grayson Waller, Oh, don't put that even on.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
Well, yeah he should.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
He should be as irritating and as grating as Grayson Waller.
He should be the guy following the group, right, like, yeah,
he's come out there and he saved them a couple
of times, but they still don't fucking respect him. And
now he's over here, just eye to eye with Paul Hayman,
like yeah, fuck, I'm gonna fucking do him, like what

(57:16):
shut the fuck up? Right?

Speaker 1 (57:17):
And only funny and only funnier too, because then he
goes out there and lays a fucking egg. Oh you know,
like this is supposed to be like ah, I'm a big,
fucking tough guy. And then he goes out there and
fucks up a fucking sidewalk slam. It's like, oh my god,
oh my god, just make him a fucking arrogant little weasel, right.
And I don't know what it is. Maybe it's the

(57:38):
part of you know, the mark part of him, and
like this is gonna be a problem with Logan Paul
right where clearly the kid is beyond athletic. He was
a fan, he was a real fan. He understood, you know,
for a lot of the presentation and shit. But he's
also a multi millionaire and got in through a different avenue,
so you can't really beat the mark out of him.

(58:01):
You can't really be like, hey man, you want to
be this.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
I still feel like, yeah, I still feel like every
time they wheel those prime cards out there, that Logan
Paul is paying for his TV time. Yeah you know
what I mean, Like he's basically he's just to be.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
On the show. He's a ticket seller. You know, you're
you're right, it's like an indie shit thing. Yeah, it's
the guy. It's the local guy from the radio station
that gets put into a fucking match or something that
used to be an indie worker. It's what's his name,
it's the Boom guys.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
Sure right, it's.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
The fucking Boom guys. Which I'm not trying to say
that obviously, fucking logan Paul has a lot of potential
to become something worthwhile. But it's another matter of he
wants to be one thing, and whoever's booking him wants
him to be one thing, and he's just not that, right,
He's just not that And and by the way, like

(58:58):
there is something too the balance of yeah, you know what,
this guy's arrogant, he's cocky, he thinks he's all that
and blah blah blah, blah blah. But let me tell
you when that fucking right hand comes. His brother is
a professional boxer. He's boxed. He's no joke. Like, you
can be both, but no one's believing that you're like
fucking Joe Peshi and casino.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
But that no one why, right, That's the thing is like,
I don't know why they want that to be his appeal.
I mean, he's literally surrounded by people, all of them
even Paul Hayman included that dwarf his size, and you're
telling me he's gonna be the dog that barks. Are
you fucking kidding me? Like you were joking before. I

(59:41):
think it was all three of us with Dan. I
think you brought it up. It's like he's the scrappy
that's what he should be. He should be the scrappy
fucking dude, right, Like he talks shit, but he always
gets laid the fuck out.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
Right, and even though he's bigger than them. That's how
you excuse him losing because he's arrogant, right, just in
the same exact way. It's like, you know, the guy
that tries to get too fancy with his dance and
the fuck he's running into the end zone and he
drops the fucking ball before he across, you know, breaks
the plane and you go, you dumb, fuck you fucking idiot.

(01:00:15):
You had it man, you screwed it up. But it's
because you were being cocky and show boating, like that's
who logan Paul kind of just is right. So it
doesn't make sense like you said, to try to make
him sit in there, he's eyed eye with him like
like like a fucking mob boss.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
No, dude, No, he is the side profile of a
twenty year old girl like he looks like a it's.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
But you know what that bothered me with seth Rollins too, right, Like, yeah,
I know Paul is afraid of everybody, but he really
shouldn't be, right, Paul being afraid of Drew McIntire makes sense.
Paul being afraid of a Roman Reigns makes sense. Paul
being afraid of a brock Lessner makes fucking sense. Paul
being afraid of a logan.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
Paul nohould he should look at him as sort of
like a useful idiot, right, you know, that's where he
looks at it and he just goes, you know, And
I think that's also fine too as a character where
Hayman looks at him and goes, you know, listen, you
might think you might think that I'm just a dumb
old man. You know, if you wanted to hurt me,

(01:01:21):
you could hurt me really easy. You keep me around
because of my brain, you know, something like.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
Oh, he puts me in my corner on this. He says, yeah,
but Paul is afraid of Becky. And I know I
made that reference earlier. I think the context of what
Becky said to Paul made it so that, yeah, he
should be afraid of Becky because it's like you you
might have just hurt the father of my child. You
might have just taken him out permanently. You might have
just affected our family financially, like this is your fault.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
Like there was a Paul was also by himself.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Yeah, that's too.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
That's a huge part of that. You got to remember too.
It's like if he's if he's got these two guys
behind him that are two hundred and fifty pounds, that's
a hell of a lot different than he's by himself.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
But I just meant the top one time. The context
was more vicious. It wasn't like, yeah, I'm gonna go
beat him up Paul, and it's like, oh, so scary.
It was Becky's like I'm gonna slit your fucking dick
off and make your family watch kind of vibe. And
I was like, oh, well, you know, she's a little upset.
So it's just, yeah, I guess context matters in that scenario.
But you're right, in no normal situation should Paul Hayman

(01:02:31):
ever be afraid of a Becky Lyitch. None?

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
Right, right, But it was like a cool like I said,
once again, he was by himself. He was cornered like, I'll,
I'll take it. I'll take it for.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
That honestly, which is funny because that's how Seth Rollins
should have treated Baron Corbin when Baron Corbin fucking end
of dazed his wife and didn't didn't do that, but
Becky did it for Seth. I will I still take
that one. And I just laugh at the idea of
it that Becky he had more balls than Seth did.

(01:03:03):
After you know, their husband, wife got taken out so.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
Well, to be fair, then afterwards they all went and
saw a five finger death punch they went to. That's
how they bond.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
Did they take the hogs? Did they go out and
take the hogs there?

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
Yeah? No, I think I think Seth just held on
to him from behind on the fucking Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
He was riding b.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
And Becky was in the sidecar. Yeah, and their little
fucking motorcycle trip.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
No, I don't know. Like, like I said, that's not
the way that I feel like you should present logan ball.
You're not going to get the best out of them. Still,
it's another it's another moment of w W E is
letting somebody present themselves in a way that doesn't work
and apparently there's nobody there to step in and say

(01:04:01):
this doesn't fucking make sense, don't do that. And he's
a millionaire and he's somebody that's on the show that like,
if he didn't want to do it, he really doesn't
got to do it. He can still look at him
and say no, thanks, see you later, fuck off. Right,
But at the same point, like, well he's got.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
Two masters though too, Right, Like a lot of these
WWE talents only have the master of WWE. Logan Paul,
for what it's worth, still caters to his his fucking
social media, to his YouTube channel, to his show, Like,
he really does have two masters because he still does
his outside thing. He's still promoting his fucking prime juice,

(01:04:41):
his waters, whatever energy drinks. He's still promoting his show. Like,
if there's something that would that WWE could do or
would do that would cost him money from the other
two avenues that are at least two, Sure he has
many you know, who knows how many kids are getting

(01:05:02):
robbed this week, at least two. I would assume that
Logan would be like, no, no, you're you're literally screwing up.
You're you're infringing upon you know what I'm doing over
here or my show or whatever the fuck it is, right, Like,
doing this is gonna make my image look bad. So
I wonder how much wwe tap dances around Logan Paul

(01:05:25):
and kind of gives him what he wants because ultimately,
again he's serving more than one master.

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
Right, and he's An and yup putting them in the
main event of shows now, and they're getting something out
of them, so they feel like.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
Whatever the main event. So for what it was is,
I mean, it was Drew and Logan versus the USOS,
which eventually devolved into chaos when Bronson and stay cop
and see him, Punk and Cody and everybody show up
and then brock Lesner shows up and slips and everybody laughs,

(01:05:58):
and you know, it's just yeah, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
Just a fun It's just a real funny fun show.
You know, it's just a goofy, goofy fun time. But like,
this was yet another thing that I couldn't open notice too.
So they had the USOS come out and do the entrance, right.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
Yeah, then I three times? Was it three times?

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
It must have been fucking five, dude, there was five minutes. Yeah,
I'm telling you. They went to a break and this.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
This crowd wants him to do it again.

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
Doesn't this crowd want him to do it again?

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Wait and waits just like uh huh and Joe.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
Oh my god, the ousels are doing it again.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
And I'm just like, Joe, please stop. Jesus Christ, I like,
I like testatory. But there there are these weird moral
ranalo moments that he has where it's like, oh, please,
somebody yell in his earpiece and reel in the back,
reel him the back the fucking because.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
Well, he's also just following what he knows he's supposed
to do. But she's not bad. Like I'm not saying
he's bad at all, but in that moment, it's like, yeah,
he doesn't have any other way to fill in the
blanks there, So that's what he's saying.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
It's not good fucking figure something else out, because because
cheering that on the way he did was just I
don't know, man, it was great, it was It made
the entrance even more grating. I started to hate Oklahoma
at that point.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
Did imagine you went to a wrestling show at any
point in your life and they played the same forty
five seconds of a song for six minutes, right for
six straight minutes, and everybody's just like, wave your hands
in the air, guys, and I'm just like, yeah, Judy's
I'm gonna fucking dis look at my shoulder like pentuff,

(01:07:48):
I gotta keep doing this. Jesus Christ, fucking personal trainers
sitting there going dude.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
That's too much consumer shaving and arms in the air, sir.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
Put I'm gonna people are gonna get hurt. Dude. You
gotta just you gotta stop. They're not they're not mobile
enough to be doing this.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
It was, but it was not good and it's missed,
but it's it's a great minutes, dude. It's so blatant, though,
because Joe is just using his advertising voice and it's like, yeah,
we get it. We I don't know how else to
put this. The advertising voice on top the advertising voice

(01:08:25):
for Jay Huso does not make Jay Uso seem cool.
It's just a stop.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
Look at him. He's funky, fresh like Jesus Christ, but
no like even to the extent of like, I don't know,
maybe this is the only other entrance I could fucking
reference Stone Cold. Steve Austin used to come out and
walk around for ten minutes and drink beer, right, But
he was the most over guy pretty much in the

(01:08:54):
history of fucking wrestling ever.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
Yeah, and the only time it got funnier was when
we got that ATV, which was clearly mocking the Undertaker.
I always felt because the Undertaker came out your bidass
with the motorcycle and shit. So Stone Calt just kept
riding his ATV out there. He didn't have to. It
could have been a one and done, but now he
just became part of the gimmick.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
And it worked. But like once again, the most over
guy in the history of wrestling used to get away
with doing that, and now they're like, hey, you know what,
there won't be any diminishing returns on this. Keep playing it,
Play it again, played again, played again, played again, played
it again. You're like, yeah, dude, this is what you
are going to burn this out, even fucking more so

(01:09:40):
than you already have. But yeah, I keep thinking to myself,
and I know this is the thing that WWE should
have left behind years ago. But that whole thing of
having someone do an entrance and then you go to
a commercial break, then you go to a promo backstage,
then you run a video package, then you run a
commercial for next year's WrestleMania. Right, I'm like, these people

(01:10:01):
are standing in the ring for ten minutes. Yeah, what
are they doing in there?

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
Nothing, They're chilling.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
They're just standing there looking at their fucking feet for
ten minutes. I mean, my god, I'd be so fucking
I'd be so bored. I'd be standing there like I supposed.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
You paid harder money to be that bored, Joe, You're
gonna enjoy being bored every second of it too.

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
Well, I mean as the fan you'd be bored, but
also as the performer, Like what are you supposed to do?
Just keep walking around the ring looking at the crowd
going hey yeah or shut up? Well, they're not saying
anything like they're already just been bored.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
And they're posing for everybody's digital cameras. If anything, they
should they should draw out those entrances more. Right, take
take a page from Brett Hart's playbook. You know, maybe
maybe somebody comes down to the ring. They're wearing some shades,
taking them off.

Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
For the fans.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
Like, if you're gonna draw it out, if you're going
to draw these commercial breaks before the match, I agree
with that. I think that if you come out there
and you start having the talent become more interactive with
the ring side fans, that looks good for everybody because
we don't need to see, you know, little Timmy fell
down the well getting the fucking shades. We know what's happening,

(01:11:23):
but it's just you know what I mean, Like there
was more of a pomp and circumstance. There was more
of an interaction that the old days had, which made
more sense than you're right, than the guys standing in
the ring posing and just.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
Dude, two or two or three minutes, you know, like,
give give if I was a babyface in that company
two or three minutes, you give me that time where
I'm standing in the ring and it goes to commercial
or whatever, and I can get out of the ring
and walk around ringside and take fucking selfies and say
to the people, I'm gonna kick that fucking ass. Whoever's
coming out there. They're deep shit and the people are

(01:11:58):
all getting worked up and ready for you. So that way,
when the entrance happens for your opponent, they're ready to boo,
they're ready to chare whatever would be. But six minutes,
eight minutes, ten minutes, like, I'm like, dude. Even the
people that were like happy about the selfie, they're already
got their face buried on Instagram at that point, they're
right in a caption. They're doing shit. They they've moved on.

(01:12:20):
I'm not interested anymore. It's too long group.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
But fifty Shades of Josh says they don't let you
film or take pictures anymore in the audience. Apparently in
LA they don't let you have phones.

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
Yeah, I'd be like, fucking fuck off. I mean what,
I don't know if that's the game. Maybe they if
they catch you filming, they'll be pissed. I don't know.
I don't know how they could even say that, I mean, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
Unless they're like standing over your shoulder and see the
little red button going or something.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
Yeah, I mean live streaming. Maybe in in LA, maybe
I could see that because they would say to themselves like,
hey man, listen, everybody here is trying to be a
fucking social media is somebody got in the crowd. Yeah,
there's eight thousand people all going live in the building.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
Well that's what I say. It's like somebody's setting up
a tripod with some eight millimeter film or something like, yeah,
well in.

Speaker 1 (01:13:23):
That area, maybe.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
Dude do allance check and shit like what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
Like, Okay, I could I could see that almost flying
as a law, like if you're like, listen, you tak
taking your picture out, taking your phone out, getting a
fucking selsie with your girlfriend, or you know, hey, look
I'm taking a picture of the fucking ring. Okay, but
we can't have four thousand people being like, yo, I'm
live at Monday night, raw Yo, everybody ready to watch

(01:13:48):
me for fucking forty minutes. Like yeah, that'd be a
problem because you're an influencer land, But I don't know.
I'm just guessing. I would also assume that they don't
do that in Oklahoma. Just a guess, just a guess. Oklahoma,
they're probably a little more loose with that. But no,
it's it's fucking hilarious to imagine that that whole thing

(01:14:09):
happens and guys and girls just stand there. I can
in fucking han solo fucking carbon I for ten fucking minutes, going,
I guess, I'm oh, you have to pretend to be
alive again in five four three? Oh fuck you? Yeah,

(01:14:32):
I know. It sound like a real grumpy bitch today,
but I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:14:34):
It's like, no, no, I was thinking, I'm like, you know,
we could just raise it up and talk about Bert
Kreischer and the couple, but I think we're gonna save
that for Thursday because.

Speaker 1 (01:14:43):
Bert, you mean, wait, what happened with Bert? I know
what happened with Are you talking about a kash thing? No?

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
Bert Kreischer interviewed Seth and Becky.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
That sounds terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
Yeah, I really no, no it is, so I'm gonna
save that for Thursday. Oh thank god, it's like you're perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
That's oh that's rough. I can only imagine. And by
the way, like in that moment, Becky is easily the
most tolerable person out of that whole group, easily.

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
It's deep too, like dark, which is the weirdest place
to do it. You're on a comedian's podcast, keep it light,
and I'm telling you she does the exact opposite. And
I don't know if she was inspired by aj Lee,
but she starts talking about some dark, dark, dark fucking shit.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
Becky's like, and then when I was in high school,
you know, I used to serf harm and Bert's like, yeah,
me too.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
E Well, we'll talk about it Thursday. Much love to
everybody I've in the chat, Much love to those of
you listening on the download. Of course, we'll see you
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(01:16:15):
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Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
Oh my god, doing the bird crusher voice finally got
me coughing.

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
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