WWE's MCNAMARA FALLACY or IS A TRAINED KILLER HUNTING DOWN WWE FANS? (Wrestling Soup 10.2.25)

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Wrestling too for a mature audience, lug them over the
world wrestling soup. I am Anthony Thomas, he is Joseph,

(00:30):
his excellency numbers.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yes, oh boy, big week for the saudis too, even
outside of the wrestling world. Was that online?

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Yeah, they're picking up They're picking up corporations left and right.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, by so they so they bought Madden. That's good that.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
They bought the Super Bowl to because I mean, why not.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
And of course they purchased Bilburr. That was real nice
and though too.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Yeah, that was very nice.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Wow, it's this is great. Don't you love the free market?
Isn't this nice to see?

Speaker 1 (01:03):
It really is kind of wild that everybody has all
these problems with the way that America runs things, But
the first thing that they do after they state all
these problems is run to one of the countries that
is the exact problem that we're trying to avoid here
in the country.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
To take their money.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yeah, yeah, to take their money. And it's like, oh,
so you're basically saying, good boy, you're you're taking their money,
giving them what they want, and throwing away all your ethics,
all your morals.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Okay, of course, Yeah, they hate us for their freedom
and we love them for their money, so it gives
a fuck. I guess. I guess it's an even exchange. Yeah, no,
what a depression. No no, that was not me. Oh
it was a random stranger. That's nice. Yeah good, I'm
enjoying this, dude, I got a fuck. That is actually

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hilarious that.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
They God damn, so listener, where are you from?

Speaker 2 (02:03):
And can you get a sunburn?

Speaker 1 (02:04):
I actually set that up today too. Remember I was
telling you before that I was gonna have the phone
number for the show set up. Well, I got the
whole computer thing working so I can call and receive
calls directly into the discord now, so people can actually
call a number. The problem is is the number that
I wanted. I fucking sat on that. It was like

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five four to two soup or something like that. It
was real easy, but I'm gonna have to pick up
another number. But it actually works. The system is through.
It totally works. It's fucking great, so I'm looking forward
to it.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
But well, we don't have to go through all that trouble.
We can just have people fuck our server up and
then they can just interrupt our show at any given time,
So that's also perfect. We have that as an unction.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Oh god, look, mad Max throws up the old number,
the Shannon number. Oh, if you want to call into
the show live eight one five three four five, Yeah,
that number. I don't you know what, I honestly don't know.
If that I didn't even look. Mad Max might be
on something. Maybe nobody has used that number. Can you

(03:10):
imagine the sad motherfucker if they picked up that number
after we dumped it after it expired. Just getting random
two am calls from people bitching about the show.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, call, just randomly calling him his screaming, calling him gay. Yeah,
talking about candy, Yeah, like I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Would you mean candy as to go? Where does candy.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Have to go? It's just some like kind old Indian
man that got that got a phone number to hear
from his kids.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
It's just business number. So half the calls or checking
to see if he's got liquor and aisle four, and
the other about candy. It's just all confused.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
He's just like hoping, he's just like waiting on the
line for like one of his grandkids to call, and
instead it's just one of the dickheads that listen.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Oh wow, man, Max just called. He says it's still
a free number.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Ship.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
We might have to go back to that. I'm dead serious.
Might have to bring back the old uh eight three
four five four seven blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah yeah, and then we know what's great about that
is we can use my commercial for it again. Yeah yeah,
we could use my sexy voice. Yeah, back from twenty thirteen. Fuck,
I'm gonna do that.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
I have to literally dust off MP threes like what
the fuck? Man?

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Well, well, the good thing is if we have enough money,
apparently we can buy just about anybody to do that.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Hey, that's what I've learned this week.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah, valuable lessons right by the way. I do love
the EA sports. Yeah, the flying planes into your buildings?
Yeah wait did I Yeah, dude, I guess with all
that read comedy saying that floating around? Yeah yeah, yes,
Burr's probably the most painful one. But the one that's

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really so fucked up that it's funny.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Kevin har Oh yeah, yeah, I saw that. The Pete
Davidson one is pretty fucked up because of his dad.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
That's that's wild man.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
That is fucking I.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
That they interviewed him about it, and he was like, yeah,
there was a lot of money. He's like, wow, you
don't eat you really are gross.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Well, the highest people, I guess the contract side came out,
what was the highest contract one point four one point
six million, which something like that, Yeah, which you figure
that's probably what maybe what Louie's getting, definitely what Chappelle's getting.
Bill Bill Burr's definitely got to be making one point
five to one point six if that's the right.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
I can't believe he's like he's, like I said, he's
the saddest one Chappelle. I'm now after hearing this, I'm
having my doubts on his whole story of I turned
down fifty million dollars to Comedy Central. It's like, I'm
not buying that, right, I'm not buying that where if
you're rich as shit now, you're way more rich in
the long run than he would have been with that contract.

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And he's like, yeah, now fuck it off of go
to Saudi Arabia. I'm not but I don't know, man,
I'm starting to have my own like backtracking conspiracy on
that being like I don't know, maybe twenty years ago
he just asked for more money, and they said, no,
did you hold this story you.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Know, you know about did you see the Anthony response
Anthony Kumia, Well, he was fucking dancing on Bill Burr's
comedic grave. He really was, because obviously they have a history.
You know, Bill Burr fucking doesn't like Anthony because Anthony
says racial comments. And even though he had done that

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back in the day when they were still doing O
NA and shit, you know, like it was never a
problem before, but after Patrece passed, like everything changed for
Bill Burr. And it's kind of funny that he, you know,
like literally threw him out of Patrese's benefit and now
he's at this point where he's taking Saudi money and
Anthony's like, you can just shut the fuck up. You
have no fucking pedestal to stand on anymore.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
And it's to be fair Anthony. And this also too,
like the people were like, well, this justifies me sending
pictures of monkeys to Bill Burr to make fun of
his wife. It's like, well, that still doesn't justify that, dude,
Like you're still a piece of dog shit. But for
him to have been mister and likes somebody that's also

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from the same area as him, a very representative of
the idea of the Northeast working class. You know, everybody,
you know, if you work at forty hours a week, dude,
you should be able to pay your rent, like to
have that mentality and then be like, what state do
you want me to put on the Oh? Should I
put on that the nicer tap shoes for you, your excellency.

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It's like, that's where it hurts, Yes, swear it's not.
It's got nothing to do with, like I said, people
being shitty to him, people being racist to him and
his wife, Like that's fucking gross and low and not okay.
But it's also the scene.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
It grows on a personal level, right like Bill Burr's
gotta used to to people fucking saying shitty things on
social media. That's just what people do. But I think
where it hurt Bill Burr was it was coming from
a guy who he perceived as his friend. That's always
the way I saw it, because even though they say, oh,
just business partners, business associates, like that's what Anthony is saying,

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It's like, nah, dude, you were clearly cle close with
guys like Patrice. You were close with Burr and Luis c.
K and a lot of these guys and a lot
of friendships EBB and flow. Right, But when a friendship
is ended because of you you hate your friend's wife's color.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yeah, well that's that's the problem with this, Like I said,
for somebody like him, like Anthony being like, well you
Didn't's like you have a dude that still got to
make you less of a piece of shit, right, You're
still a fucking asshole. Like it's it's fine for you
to look and gloat at the fact and be like, oh,
well you're a sellout, but you're still a dick too. Yeah, yeah,

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for your own set of reasons. But no, man, that
was so that was so goddamn depressing. That's so depressing.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
You know, speaking of Boston, since you were talking about
it being the area December thirteenth, I know we were
talking about before. Randomly, a Saturday night's main event happening
in Boston is going to be Johnsena's retirement, not throw
a Rumble, not fucking Rustlemania, his retirement matches happening on
December thirteenth in Boston, And the prices for these tickets

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are obviously insane, So it's.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Like, so they they squashed the DC thing. They actually,
I guess is it DC?

Speaker 1 (09:53):
I'm sorry it is DC, not Boston.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
I follow. Oh I'm gonna say, did cooler Heads prevail TKL?
I mean really that would be funny.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
See, well Lee was hitting me up. Lee from the
RCWR show he lives out in DC. I for some reason,
I was thinking that he lives out in Boston. I'm sorry,
I got my wires cross on that, but he was
telling me that, you know, his nosebleed tickets will be
two hundred and fifty bucks. Ringside is being reported at
eleven thousand, five hundred starting and Roe b ramp sides

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are at ninety five hundred knop and most of the
tickets I guess will be in the range of around
two fifty to three thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
So yeah, yes, let me tell you, dude, all right,
for this DC show specifically, I know that there are
people in Boston that spend pretty big money for you
know NBA Finals tickets for example, that happened here a
couple of years ago, right, Yeah, But a lot of

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those were also corporate seats. They were people that were
athletes retired, you know, local sort of celebrities, all those
people like fucking Marky Marx sitting there court side. You know,
I think to myself that these people think they can
price that even for a John ceneor retirement. Like I'm
not saying the building's gonna be fucking empty, but it's just,

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I don't know, like it fucked.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
It feels like it's a TKO strategy. This feels like
a marketing or a branding strategy. Right, Saturday night main
event is not going to do as well as Rumble,
It's not gonna do anywhere near as well as rustle Mania.
So in order to get that number up, they're taking
a random Saturday night show and throwing John Cena's retirement

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on there in order to get eyes on it.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Right right, And I'm pretty sure just gonna guess here,
the rest of the card will be wholly unremarkable.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Oh yeah, I mean, what else could they put on there? Honestly,
you know what the last thing they could do on
Maybe I'm just thinking about this too much. Make the
whole night about John Cena, Give him that one big match,
make it a nice long match, give people that final,
their their their final goodbyes. But give John Cena the

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whole fucking night. Let him have a speech afterwards. Maybe
people even come out there with actual feelings and tell
them how much he means to them. Like, there is
a lot that they can do to turn this around,
but wwe probably won't do that. They've got to have
a Seth Rollins match on the card somewhere.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Oh yeah, Seth though, Seth's got to wrestle, right, watch them,
watch them have Cmpunk wrestle Seth again for some reason,
but not honestly, more than likely the entire undercard is
just going to be kind of filler based off of
the fact that they are going to be aware of
if somebody's paying three thousand dollars for these seats, they're

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more than likely a John Cena fan. And everything else
there for is just the you know, just the appetizers,
I guess if you will. Yeah, but they're not really
that excited about most of anything else.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Yeah, because who's going to show up? And I hate
to say it because I was talking about this before,
and I mean you were talking about the problems, but
who Who's going to spend three thousand dollars for a
random LA Night versus South Rollins match?

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Right, nobody's nobody's into that. And I guess also at
this point too. And it does go back to it.
I know we mentioned it on Tuesday, We're going to
bring it up. But look at what they put on
as the main event for SmackDown this week and realize
the people that were sitting in those seats in that
arena probably also paid anywhere from three hundred to three

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thousand dollars something there, right, you know, for that type
of dog shit. So I don't think they're not even
like aware of it. They just don't give a shit.
They don't care. It's it seems like it's almost contingent
on you know what Triple H is in the mood
holding on.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
I'm being disingenuous. I forgot to tell people that, and
I fits of dropping eleven five hundred dollars on the
Saturday night's main event ticket. You also get premium seats
at Undertaker's live show the night before, Oh What Be
And you get a Sena themed exclusive gift.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yeah, honestly, and this is not me saying and this
is still not a value by any ways, you know,
shape or form at any stretch of the imagination. But
you should get to fucking meet John Cena for that money.
You really should there should be a meeting at the
very least a meet and green.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
They said that you get ringside photo access, So I
assume John Cena will walk by the ring and you
can take pictures as he walks by.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Ooh, lucky you.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
I mean, well, what else does that mean? I mean,
do they think that people are going to actually hop
the fucking the guardrail and get to stand in the
ring with John Ceno. No, it's not.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Honestly, I'm thinking that what they might do, because I
think this is what they did with the Mania seats too.
They just you know, move the barricade out of the
way and say, hey, you can come take pictures with
your elbow on the ring. Yeah, guys, this is a
fucking hoh's job. I mean that's an absolute fucking ripoff.
And yeah, like I said, at least in that scenario

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you should have. I meant, Greatwood, Sina.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
It's gonna say, it's gonna fucking sig. Every single ticket
is gonna sell that place. If it isn't already, it
will absolutely be sold out. I don't see any fucking
empty seats in the John Cena retirement Saturday Night's main event.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
And the worst case scenario is if they don't sell,
they can ask the army to come in and just
sit in those empty seats, you know what I mean? Yeah,
of course, and then afterwards they can go look at
us giving these tickets to these wonderful servicemen for John Cena.
And it's just like, is that because you couldn't sell
the twenty five hundred dollars nosebleed seats?

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (15:59):
Why?

Speaker 1 (15:59):
Oh do you think they gonna have a military section?
And they all salute John Cena as he leaves the building.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Honest to god, if what was going on wasn't going on,
I would immediately have responded with they fucking better. But
in my mind, just the hilarity of them being like, hey, guys,
when you're off shift walking around the streets looking intimidating,
can you also come stand and just salute shounce place.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Cloudy says that the ringside photos is where you stand
in front of the apron before the show.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Yeah, that's yeah, this is the thing that I don't
even I don't even know if i'd ever even want
that for eleven thousand bucks. Du dude, you wouldn't want
that for eleven thousand bucks.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
No, I'd be saving it up for that that dead
Man's show. Yeah, right, Undertaker Live.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Do you know what I think the WWE should do too,
just out of the kindness of their hearts. They should
let these people break the ring down and load into
the truck. Why not? You know what I mean? Like,
really be like, all right, this is how the sausage
is made, and you throw them a fucking ranch. You're like,
this is how you loosen the turnbuckles, and then you

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just make them you know, all right, everybody know carry
the phone? Like, they should just have them do some
manual labor that they pay for. Right that to me,
I'm like, what an experience. That's what a deal. Let's
throw that in there. You know what I think what
they should do is they should give them all mops
and brooms and let them sweep the ringside.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Maybe they've even fold some chairs, you know, yeah, clean
some bathrooms. Clean a real WWE event bathroom.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Well was the thing that Kevin Owens was talking about.
Go to the back and spray down where the fucking
self Tanner is. Whoa I bet this is Maxine self Tanner.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Yeah, I get to clean the women's restrooms. I wonder
who those brown streaks belong to a.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Little yeah, yea, it is either like, yeah, you didn't
get the premium Brown package. It's gonna be an extra
three million dollars, sir.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
Maybe it's some Nicky Bella poop, you know.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Yeah, And then he goes to reach into the into
the fucking john. He's like, you can look, but you
can't touch. No, that's I'm sorry. That's the Brown number
two package. That'll be an additional six hundred and seventy
five thousand.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah, you didn't hear my my Nicky Bella song, did you?

Speaker 2 (18:29):
No? Is a whole other one.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah, I have a I have the new Nicky Bella song.
I was playing a little bit beforehand, but I think
i'll play it again right now.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah, Nikki poop.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Poop poop. I'll put the lyrics in the chat for everyone.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
In case you can't follow along.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
Youry so hard, damn.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
You can look? Is this is this? Sabrina Carpenter, Sabrina
Sharp Pinter Expresso cho chomp.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
I'm very proud of that, you know what.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
I'm so glad that Lynda Hamilton was able to save
us from the Rise of the Machines, so the machines
could merely do that.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Well, it was better than listening Axel Rose wine into
a mic for the next twenty five fucking years.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
So well, no, it's just it's good, you know, like
we were able to stop cyberdine systems, and now we
get AI that can make poop scat.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
I need to and I need to get Arnold Schwarzenger
dancing to this song. That'd be great, awesome.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
You know what, though I still fucking love that guy.
What it's what a shame that he's just kind of
chilled out as far as, like I know, he still
does like the occasional not action movie, but like weird
sort of old man film.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
Wouldn't you stop after what happened to fucking Bruce Willis?

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (20:35):
True, Come on, tell me Bruce Willis isn't a cautionary
tale for every action star in Hollywood to go, Eh,
you know what, I'm good, I'm fucking good.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
How about I just enjoy my days?

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Right?

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yeah? No, I got you. I love Arnold, though.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
I loved Bruce Willis and the fact that he made like,
what was it, fifteen movies in three months you know,
while he didn't even know he was there. It was awful.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Man. Honestly, that was kind of a weird moment because
I remember people saying, well, that was happening, that he
was trying to make every dollar that he could to
help assembly, and I'm like, man, he's already rich.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
What are we doing, right?

Speaker 2 (21:15):
It just feels fucked up. You're just taking this guy
who's like sliding into fucking senility and death and you're like,
the bomb's about to go off, and he's like, right, bombs. No.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
You could actually see in some of the movies he
had an earpiece, like one of those war were they called,
like the little cricket earpieces. He's just walking around with
it while they're feeding him his lines.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
It was, oh, that's it, which, which, by the way,
we're gonna probably both end up having those in the
next five years. But it's just because we've fucked up
our hearing m h you know, that's the unfortunate thing.
We'll be Let me ask you this. If we put
the headphones over our hearing aids, yes, does that create

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some sort of fucked up feedback?

Speaker 1 (22:02):
No? No. Putting a microphone right on top of a
speaker is always a great idea. Try it at home.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
The show will just be us. Oh it earns yes,
Cethro and still sucks. Oh this hurts so bad. Huh
Oh did you like the show? What?

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Yes? I did?

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Oh a flex sake.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
So I went to David Busters. We were celebrating my,
uh my nephew's birthday, and I want I won myself
a bell because that's going to get real annoying on
the show. And I got a megaphone, which will also
be very annoying on the show. But I have to
get like for D batteries or some shit, so you know.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
So here's the question. How many games of Neon ski
ball did you have to play to win that little no?

Speaker 1 (23:09):
I figured out the bowling game. I figured out the
bowling game. The bowling game gives you double tickets. And
if you don't aim down the middle, but you aim
a little bit to the right, like literally the smidgeon,
and you start getting into that muscle memory. You can
just walk out with like a thousand tickets per fucking
per game. And it's like you have to roll five strikes,

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but it's real easy, and it's like once you hit
a strike, then it gives you like one hundred pins.
Then you try to knock down one hundred pins. But yeah, dude,
I racked up like fifteen thousand points on a fifty
dollars bid.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
So maybe that's a future job, dude, now that you
recognize not to Oh yeah, you could be like the cow.
You could be like the guy that catches card counters
at the casino, but you're at the tave and bus
David Buster's pit boss.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
This guy's been playing bowling too long. He knows the secret.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Really catch it. You're trying to catch fucking rain Man
stealing all the stealing all the Sonic, the Hedgehog plushy.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
That was smart, though I broke it up. I went
off and I we played a couple of games with
the nephew and then they have this this human crane
game which I never saw that before, where he stands
there and it's like a giant arm comes down, grabs
him and drags him over, and then he tells the
guy who's controlling it when he wants to go down,

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and he goes down and he just grabs a giant
stuffed Ufo toy and then he comes back. And that's
what he's got and I was like, oh, okay, that's fun.
That's kind of neaty.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
There's a human crane game.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Human crane game. Yeah, so you know the crane game's right,
the stupid fucking thing You throw in a dollar and
you swipe your thing and then you you always miss
it goes up halfway and then it jiggles bad. Then
you got to try and figure out which way left
or right. And you finally get there and you're like, oh,
this is the perfect angle. Go down and the claw
never can grab shit ever, like it just always loses.

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But yeah, nah, but they do it with you as
a person, and they pick you up with a machine
with a giant claw, and then they drag you through
the middle and then they lower you down so you
can grab it. I don't know what happens if you miss. Honestly,
I haven't seen anybody miss, but I'm very curious. Does
the operator just say, fuck you kid, you don't get

(25:26):
a toy you missed.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
You know what, If I'm ever terminally ill, I hope
they do that same thing to me, but over a
bridge and reverse.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
It'd be awesome.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Well, put me in the giant hook and then roll
me out over the thing and then just open it
and I just fall into the water. And that's my
price is, you know, speaking to you a concrete pain, you.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
Know, falling off of a bridge into the water. I
don't know if you've heard about this, but on a
recent episode on The Busted Open Velvet, Sky and Angelina
Love talked about how they were the reason that there
were ratings in TNA. She said, Kurt Angles in TNA, sting,
Christian Hall, Kevin Ashbooker, t They're all there and we

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were getting the highest rated segments. We would see that
we were getting the highest rated segments.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
One usually does, and we were.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Just like, this is unbelievable. The guys weren't like these
girls are stealing in their shine. They were like, hell yeah, girls,
Hell yeah. We had the support of everyone, and it
just made it much more special to us.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yeah. People, people will pay attention to uh, chicks smashing
their vaginas into the camera. That's that they will. They
will notice that, believe it or not, they'll notice that
more than uh the Motor City machine guns.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Yeah, but I mean you are talking about like peak
Kurt Angle in DNA. Anyways.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Oh, that's true. Like drugged out.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Yet oh my god, it was so good on all
those drugs.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
Fuck you do you ever think, like, what would you
have rather have had to some extent those half a
dozen years of just a drug addult Kurt Angle doing
wild shit, or another two years after that match that
he had with Baron Corbin where he could have been

(27:21):
healthy and we could actually seen.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Well, it's weird because I think we honestly, I know
we're making jokes, but it's kind of backwards because he
dried up in TNA because he couldn't afford this shit anymore.
It was when he was down on ECW that he
was literally popping at the vein, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Yeah, well, those those were short lived days, true.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
True, but I mean you have to be pretty fucking
gassed out at Vince's like, dude, we can't you gotta yeah,
gotta go.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Yeah. I'm not sure if younger people happened to know
and or remember that story, but the main reason why
Kurt Angle was originally released from WWE was Vince McMahon
himself was going, you are too addicted to drugs, right,
He told the wrestler that was still making him lots

(28:14):
of money that he was too addicted to drugs to
work there. So imagine how bad that was.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Pretty bad, pretty fucking bad.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Like if you take that list and you put it
next to the list of guys who, let's be real,
didn't make him the hell of a lot more money
that died under his watch while still employed. Right, that's
pretty it's pretty goddamn nuts. But I also wasn't that
around the time. I'm really having a hard time putting

(28:46):
this on the scale. Was he fired before after Ben
was shit?

Speaker 1 (28:52):
I think it was after at he's passing.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
And okay, so that's yeah, and then the Ben was shit. Yeah,
I don't know. I can't do it because I mind
up thinking. I'm like, yeah, if it was close enough
to the Ben wash shit, they're like, yeah, sorry, we
can't have any more dead guys like in the next
you know and a half or something.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
Well, Eddie was tragic for a different reason. Obviously abused himself,
you know, over the years, but he was clean at
that point. It's just the damage was done and it
weakened his heart. Like Vince could have kept Kurt angle
on at that point, because there would have been no
correlation between him and Eddie at least not directly, not publicly.

(29:30):
It wasn't until after the Benma stuff that you know,
wrestling as a whole was cracked down upon.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
But yeah, oh yeah, so okay, so Lightning put it.
He's like, so Eddie was two thousand and five, ben
Wa was two thousand and seven, and then Angle was
sandwiched in between there.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yeah, man, imagine that fucking triple threat had had Angle
gone down Eddie, had Eddie died, Angle dies, Ben Mick
kills his whole family and himself. Yeah, I think that
would have been pretty pretty bad.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
That would have been a tru effecta yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
I don't think WWE could have then been like hey,
well yeah, anyways, uh, how about that royal rumble? Not
for a while? Guys excited? You know which, which, by
the way, like you have to think about how fucking
crazy wrestling is just top to bottom and it's really
reflective of where people's heads are at at the time.
Like I think right now, not a murder suicide, but

(30:24):
if like people that were on television for WWE died
of whatever it might be a heart attack or drugs
or something like that, people would be like, man, that's
really really sad, and then they just moved I think
they would move on a lot faster then, and I
think people think, like now it would be this huge tragedy.
But I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
I kind of agree with you. I think we still
had some connection to feelings back in two thousand and six,
in two thousand and five, but I think that we're
faced with so many challenges and we are seeing so
much horror broadcast to us in real time, twenty four
hours a day from all over the world. It's almost

(31:05):
like that whole old school saying it's five o'clock somewhere
and then you have a reason to be an alcoholic.
I think the same thing can be said about tragedies
in the news. It's like there's always bad news somewhere,
and social media is just the tool for that.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
You know. Yeah, I mean you're just you're just constantly
being faded horror right in a way that like it's
a yes, Eddie Guerrero passed away, and it's like the
wrestling world greatly mourns the passing of Eddie Guerrero, and
it's like yes, But like you said, in twenty twenty five,
you'd be like, oh, that's man, that's the worst thing
that's happened this hour.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Yeah, yeah, no, for sure, exactly no.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
And it's and it sucks. It's not like I'm like, hooray,
that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
But I think it's also generational too. I think a
lot of the younger people would feel that way. They
would just get over it in a couple of hours.
I think the older generations would probably still fucking stick
with that. Look knock on wood. I'd never openly fucking
want this. But if there was something horrible that happened
to John Cena, I think more so there would be

(32:09):
a lot more people that would stop dead in their tracks,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
I think he's he's such a good guy though, Like that's.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
That's why I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
I think, yeah, yeah, I think he would be. And
you know, not to fucking I mean, the guy's been
dead for twenty years, but not to throw dirt on him,
but at least, like you know, sometimes when you've had
drug addictions or you know, abuse alcohol in the past,
people are like, oh, yeah, you know, caught up with them.
You know, the shit got to him and caught up

(32:40):
with them. But if it was like you said, like
John Cena's fucking plane went down, right, that would probably
be the closest thing to really really really fucking people
up in wrestling, you.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
Know, Edward brings up Hana Kimora. Yeah, that that was horrible, dude,
And I think I think most people didn't really give
as yet. Yeah, I think most people didn't give a
shit about that. Never mind the fact that she was
young and pretty and famous on different levels because she
was on reality TV and in wrestling and everything else
like that. But I think the idea that you know,
there were people that hated her because she was you know,

(33:16):
not of pure blood was fucking insane to me.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Yeah, can you imagine Japans like that? America could never
act in that way?

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Oh a lot of those Asian countries are, I know. Yeah, yeah,
but it's publicly, Okay, that's the difference, Right.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
We're getting were fairly close to this, fairly, we're getting there.
But no, like that's yeah, that's all fucking a tragedy.
It's all fucking horrible. But yeah, I mean, were we
how did we get to that? What the hell are
we talking about?

Speaker 1 (33:48):
We were talking about the beautiful people and how they
were more.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Yeah, that tragedy too. Yeah. If Elvitskuy is a fucking asshole,
I don't I still don't like her.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
The you know, speaking of tragedies. I don't know if
you saw this, but I I guess book Pro Wrestlers
they were on Facebook revealing that Ama Johnson got into
a terrible car rack. He was hit by a drunk driver.
It was a rear end and his car was crushed
from the impact, but he made it through unharmed, and
the fans immediately started flooding social media supports done that

(34:18):
to the start, survived what could have been a fatal incident.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
So when did this happen today?

Speaker 1 (34:24):
This happened on September twenty ninth.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Oh fucking what? Oh okay?

Speaker 1 (34:28):
And he said, he responded, he said, when you have
the Lord on your side, nothing can harm you. Thank you.
I appreciate it. So I mean, good for him that
he made it out of that. But Jesus Christ and
we have enough with wrestlers and drunk drivers.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Sonning, you know, yeah, well, do you know what in
a way you think about it? I feel like maybe
I'm just being sheltered or isolated from this at this point.
You're not hearing as many stories like that as specifically
evolving wrestlers, you know, or even day to day life.
I feel like when I was a kid, when I

(34:59):
was younger, you'd hear people getting hit a lot more
by drunk drivers a lot.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Well, now we have smart cars that drive for us.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
So that's a good point.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Well, honestly, ubers and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
I think I was going to say, you know, there's
a lot.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
More ways to get from point A to point B
unless you're in Chicago soon, but there's a lot more
ways to get from point A to point B, especially
when you're trash as opposed to what it was in
the nineties.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Don't you feel like that should be a thing that
UBER leans into to some extent, Like I know that
they catch a lot of shit in certain parts of
the country.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
They do New Years for some reason. On New Years
they're very proud of it, but the rest of the
year they don't talk about it.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Yeah, that is weird. That is weird when you think
of it, Like, I feel like that would be a
pretty good selling point as far as like you are
doing a service to the community to some extent.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
I would be I'm actually more surprised. Bars don't just
say hey, we have our own dedicated Uber driver and
we have like tour, we have two or three people
that we always call they get.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
The money, like Domino's pizza delivery driver. Why not. No,
you're not wrong.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Hey, this is our guy. We know him personally, We talked,
you know, you know what I mean, Like, obviously the
uber driver is gonna get repeat business. He knows exactly
where to go, and it's like it's somebody reliable that
you don't feel so sketched out right. Like that's another
problem with a lot of ubers and lifts and all
that other shit, is people don't know the driver. But

(36:29):
if you can attach the driver to an actual drinking establishment,
like doesn't that make people feel even more safe, you know,
and they.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Can kind of build a rapport with them too, as
they frequent the same place. And also, imagine you get to.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Yours driver gets free drinks at the bar.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
So perfect, you don't be perfect. You get to put
this on your resume, drunk driver, professional, professional drunk driver.
You put that on there though, they're like wait what
You're like, no, no, no, I drive drunk.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
Yes, ah, little work play.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Yes, they're like, well, that doesn't sound very good. You're like,
I know I should put that dr chat GPT. You shouldn't.
I you should come up with a more professional way
of saying that.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Professional alcoholic transporter. Yes, there you go.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Oh let's see. Uh yeah, what would it be liquid
liquid dependent individual transporter? There you go.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
You see that sounds very very chat gypt.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Yeah. I don't want a brag or nothing. I think
that's pretty good though.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Maybe even just come out with an entire uber service
just dedicated to drunk drivers.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Why just only pick up drunk only. I like the
idea of some guy pretending to be drunk, and they're like,
what is he to be? Like, it's search pricing. I
saved three dollars, so just pisses himself in the car
to say I got a group on did you just

(38:00):
piss yourself to save six dollars? He's like, yes, yes,
I did.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Fantastic.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Desperate times called for desperate measures.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Well, speaking of pissing themselves, there's a lot of rumors
going around about Andrade, who made his big return on Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
Oh I did I am in the don callis family.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Yes, he made his return, and there the rumors are
is that the reason he was released from w w
E is because of numerous wellness policy violations.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
I could not stop doing the.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
I do not like.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
I do not like to.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
I just like the smell of it.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
Yes, yes, I actually saw cocaine art on TikTok yesterday.
It was great. That's great, that's yeah. I'm like Jesus Christ.
So it's a guy who takes sand and he makes
like calligraphy letters with it and he spells out your
name on TikTok for money, And it's like, man, how
much coke did you do to get this good at

(39:02):
calligraphy with cocaine?

Speaker 2 (39:05):
I will say, though, I mean, I guess in turn, well,
you know what, maybe deck could be Androde's side hustle.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Oh, sure he could. He could write out my name
in cocaine. That'd be great.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Well, dude, you know what. And this is this is
another thing that I look at too, as far as like,
if he had those wellness violations, I would have to
assume at this point that it's for drug drugs, just
because now you can go get fucking HGH and shit
prescribed to you. Right, Never has this been easier And

(39:37):
I and I don't want to bring these guys up again.
But you know our friends from earlier generations who passed
largely in part because they were taking like horse roids
that they probably bought off of fucking the internet from
China or something. Now you don't have to do that shit.
Go to a real doctor and get some fucking get

(39:59):
some scripts.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Mike Johnson was the one who was reporting on it,
he said. Multiple WWE sources have confirmed to PW Insider
that Andrade was cut due to numerous WWE wellness violations
over the last year, so just over one year. Or
told that the decision was made to cut Andrade outright,
making him free and clear to perform elsewhere. And Drade

(40:20):
had previously been announced for independent promotions in both Mexico
and the US, so it was already obvious that he
wasn't under any sort of non compete. WWE chose to
cut him as opposed to paying him for another ninety
days to keep him from performing elsewhere, so they just
gave no fucks. It's like, here's your walking papers, get out.

Speaker 5 (40:43):
I did Heroin on purpose, right, I did not want
to work there anymore.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
Do you think that's what sold him to aw Hey
Tony I you know, I got a little nose. Little nose.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
It should you imagine that. By the way, he speaking
of putting drunk driver resume, you know, magic walking him
calling up Tony and be like, Tony.

Speaker 4 (41:06):
They fired me because I did too many drugs.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
And Tony's like that, Charm's great, come hang out with me.

Speaker 5 (41:12):
My nose was clogged. I had to fix it. I
just I tripped and fell in the every day for
two years.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
I thought it was baby powder.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
I was.

Speaker 4 (41:34):
I said, oopsip oopsis. I fell down again in it,
in the cocain. It just I keep I keep falling.
There's a roller skates near my drug pile, I said.
Charlotte used to make sure I did not have a
roller skateing near my drug pile.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
She used to put everything in zip locks.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
But I'm too lazy. I leave it just opened everywhere.
And I sleep on the roller skates all the time.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
I wear roller skates in the house.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
It makes me taller.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
I look very good.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
I am trying to get on one of those red
Bull tiktoks, just like.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
The idea to be like you are you doing drugs?

Speaker 4 (42:26):
No, I'm just trying to get on TikTok I went
to look cool on TikTok.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
Forty years old. Oh fucking Christ. By the way, if
you notice, did this uh in the pictures that Phil
boasted of it debuting the first one, it looks like
an AI rendition of Seth Rollins.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
A little bit.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
It looks like.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
That would explain Seth Rollins pretty well, wouldn't it.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Oh my god? But by the way, looking at him here, right,
I mean, he still looks like he's pretty fucking so,
pretty big, so pretty jacked up.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
Tas called him the flip flop or the chanklaw because
the name flip flop was already taken, or some shit, Oh.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
My god, chakla dude. The idea that he went first
of all, Like I said that he called him and
said I have multiple drug violations, and Tony was like,
fuck great, right, great, welcome back home, Welcome back home, son.
This sounds great. What a great reason for me to
rehire you after you clearly fucking no showed into second

(43:38):
you know.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
I mean, the popular theory is maybe Androtte was just
working on his e C W cred right, Oh got
thrown out of w w's like, oh, I'm I'm easy.
I mean a w bound. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
You know what, though, it has been way too long
since we've had a cocaine wrest like that. I mean,
I know what, never mind, I'm let's listen to me
be smirch man.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
I mean, yeah, I was gonna say, don't take food
out of Matt Riddle's mouth. He's trying to start shooting
with brock lesnar So.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
Don't take food out of his mouth, even though he's
not hungry and his won't stop moving.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
He's always chewing. Guys, you can take the food out
of my mouth.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
It's fine. I don't need anything. Hey, we're going to
get you something eat. No no, no, no, no, no,
I'm good. I'm getting get Hi, get himet him him
him him him good good good?

Speaker 1 (44:29):
How good are you good?

Speaker 2 (44:31):
I'm going to beat him because I'm good. By the way,
I'd like to see cocaine. Del Rio try to cut
promos in English.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Well, all yacked out, del Rio.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
I'm sorry, he well, del Rio would never do such
a no no, he's.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
Just too busy leaving them on the side of the road.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
You know, yeah, Joe Rio would never, never ever do
drugs ever, never.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
Like a machine. Like a machine, he.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
Would ever ever do such a thing. But yeah, and
try and he's just just with that horrible and his
brain just trying to fucking translate in real time. But
he's all banged up.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
Well he did. He did come out on social media afterwards.
It took to his Instagram and he broke his silence
after the return, saying thank you all for your support
and also to those who criticize me.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Thanks to all of you, you motivate me to be better.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
Latino man?

Speaker 2 (45:37):
Did he really say Latino man?

Speaker 1 (45:39):
Latino man? Yes, that's hilarious. We didn't know. We were
just kind of guessing. I thought he was I thought
he might have been Swedish, but apparently I was wrong.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
So I went at him, going latino man, and you're
and we're just looking at him and going.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
No ship, Yeah right, wow?

Speaker 2 (45:56):
Really did Wow?

Speaker 1 (45:58):
Damn coin is white?

Speaker 2 (46:00):
And I like, yeah, oh my good. I don't know. Well,
all I can say is with a with an immediate
positioning of being put into don Kallis family, you know, yes,
which is which is? At this point, I'm pretty sure
I'm guessing an aw, It's like being put in the
eleventh version of nWo. He'll be He'll be right his reign.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
Now he's right up there with evil, right, So.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
Yeah, he'll make dude, you know what, Tony Coin is
probably going to pay him three hundred thousand dollars a
year and then forget he exists in the next eight move.
So he's smarter than you and I.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
Well, for sure he probably owes Tony a little bit
to begin with, So who knows. Maybe it's a way
of keeping him on a tight leash.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
Yeah, who knows it.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
I work for Kilos.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
He's like Tony.

Speaker 4 (46:52):
I will gladly wrestles day for a noseberger.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
Today he is for a bump to day.

Speaker 5 (47:01):
I dig bump here, I dick bumped there, I dig bump.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Everywhere, Bumps in the ring, bumps out of the ring.
You know, he's just a He's a bump machine. That's
a Latino man.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
Yes, yeah, I hope the best for Charlotte. I still do.
That's what I think.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
He'll be fine. I feel bad that she had such
a horrible taste in men, apparently, but.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
Do you think her and Page should have a bad
taste off?

Speaker 1 (47:25):
Oh? Yeah, who has had worse relationships?

Speaker 2 (47:29):
That's a good idea, I mean good question. Do you
think like you know how like those who are saying
where two break the answers, she will stand across from
each other and like pretend to like knock each other's
hat off and do a robot by each other. Like
that's gotta be those two.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
So you say, Page, Okay, I don't know, man. I
mean Charlotte did have that last one that beat the
ship out of her and beat the ship out of
Rick Flair too.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
So yeah, that's I mean he's that's Steph competition.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
And he was huge right, Like he was huge at
the time, like three hundred pounds of muscle.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's like you basically brought a bear
into your house right and was like, you know what,
an angry bear and be like you know what, you
just don't know what he's like when we're alone.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
What was his name? Bram was I think it was?

Speaker 2 (48:19):
I think it was Bram Bram Christ.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
Rose with Graham.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
No, he said, Brahm, what the fuck is that? What
the fuck is it?

Speaker 5 (48:34):
Brahm?

Speaker 2 (48:35):
Like yeah, we we agreed.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
Charlotte was just like I went from Bram to Graham.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
H fuck, I like it. So him just being all
fucking yacked out and her just looking to be like
stell an improvement.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
My next boyfriend is going to be Ham, so.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
Shut Yeah, sure, next boyfriends here? Who she's going to date?

Speaker 1 (49:01):
A literal You know what if she dated in Otis,
I think she would she would live a happy fucking life.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
You're not wrong, maybe that you know what Ham is?

Speaker 1 (49:10):
Maybe Ham is the answer.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Yeah, you know what, honestly, do you know how that
there's always the joke that everybody makes and it's I'm
sure it's a meme to some extent at this point
where it's like the you know, the trophy wife, you know,
the super hot girl, which with the guy that's you know,
he treats me right and he's ugly or whatever. Maybe
that's it. Charlotte just needs like a big, fucking nice, fat.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Guy, somebody who's not in wrestling.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
That's the other thing too, because it seems like a
lot of the problems happen with those of the same ilk.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
So I'm thinking to myself, not not a big nuts,
nuts smelly, not great.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
The guy can be clean. We don't want her to
date a hobo, you know.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
Yeah, I'm not saying like some guy that's like gross,
like weirdo dude, but like just like a big kind
of fish, maybe ex football player kind of guy, like
an five lineman like.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
Brook Brook just finding a random hockey guy.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
There you go, Yeah, that was that was the move
for her. Dude, that was she was. She's a lucky
duck and I'm sure she knows it too. But yeah,
maybe that's it for Charlotte. She's just got to find
like a dude that played offensive line for the fucking.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
Now here's a question. Does she go for a younger
guy or does she get an older guy?

Speaker 2 (50:25):
Oh that's a good question.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
Does she go for a Steve Young type?

Speaker 2 (50:31):
I almost feel like, yeah, she probably needs a you
know what, She'd be a fucking good step mom, wouldn't she.
Sure Charlotte does much.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
She'd be a fun step mom. Yeah, yeah, like mom
kicks your step mom's ass.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
And she'd be like the step mom who would sneaky
fucking beers right yeah, And she'd be like, I just
don't do anything.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
Oh oh, he throws up bron Stroman's name. I don't
know about that one. But isn't braun Stroman doing something
right now? Isn't he trying to get back into is it? Movies?
Or something.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Yeah, yeah, I think he's trying to become the new
Jason Vorhees or something.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Oh that's right, right, right right. I you know what,
I didn't think that was such a bad idea when
I first heard it.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
No, and it makes sense. I mean, if you look
at him, he's got the size, he's got that build
for him. You know, that's fine. And Kane Hodter has
got to be like mid sixties now at this point,
so yeah, he might not be interested in it. No,
that's cool. I wouldn't be so too sad about that.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
What else we got? So WWE shakes up. So one
of the things that's happening with WWE is they're shaking
up the plans for RAW. And apparently there was an
official notice scent over the ringside that the Madison Square
Garden Show on the seventeenth in November is getting a
schedule change. So the event usually starts at six thirty pm,

(51:49):
but it's now being pushed over to seven thirty pm.
And I guess the inference here is that raws from
this point on after November seventeenth might start at eight
o'clock at night. Oh, which I don't know if it's
a one time thing or if it's from the foreseeable future.
But considering what guys like Shapiro said, that might be

(52:12):
their plans of getting rid of more kids. Hey, we're
going to start this shit at eight o'clock.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
I mean like eight o'clock your time.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
So no, no, eight o'clock Eastern, because it starts at
seven o'clock Eastern, right, No, No.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
It starts here, man. Yeah, sometimes it starts at seven,
depending on you know, if it's in another country or something.
They do that.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
Well, they're talking about pushing it an hour back, so
then maybe from that point on it would be nine, ten,
eleven o'clock on the East Coast.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
That would be a really funny way for them to
be Like, guess what, guys, Monday Night Raw starts at
midnight on Mondays. It's like, yeah, that's brilliant.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
But it's it's Netflix, so it's not really like you
have to watch it live. So it might be one
of those things that I I wonder if this is
the new future for WWE. It's an interesting idea. If
they're they're gonna try it, I don't know how to work.
It reminds me of God and I'm dating myself. But
it reminds me of the primetime wrestling days when I
would literally have to fucking beg my folks to watch

(53:12):
cable at nine o'clock at night, you know, just to
catch primetime wrestling. But yeah, for the most part, most
kids wuldn't stay up to watch that.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Well, I'm just waiting out to you know, when they
finally do sell the company to the Saudi's and then
we're watching pay per views at like a thirty in
the morning. Very well, that's coming soon Monday night raw
at eleven am on a Tuesday?

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Is that what? Crown Jewel is this here? Because they
got rid of blood? Yeah, but they got rid of
bad blood. Bad Blood was technically supposed to happen this
Sunday or Saturday.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
Right Wait, wait, no, isn't it the invasion? Didn't they
get rid of They changed the name of invasion. Oh,
they because Israel was mad at them or something like that.
Wasn't that anything?

Speaker 1 (54:00):
I don't know. I know that the Yeah, I know
Crown Jewels in Perth, I understand that. But Crown Jewel
in Perth is happening on the eleventh last year, Bad
Blood took place on October fifth in Atlanta, So that
was what the confusion was.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Yeah, oh yeah, that was the one where Cody main
evented it and fucking metro booming was there. Yeah, I
remember that just because I remember the ads for it
and everything in Atlanta. Ryeah. Well yeah, so they moved that.
So it's Crown Jewel now. By the way, I think
I think we might have an Australian person or two
listening live. What's the significance or is there any significance

(54:41):
to them keeping the Crown Jewel name and putting it
in Austria?

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Yeah? Is that fucking weird? Weird because I thought that
was specifically a Saudy thing and now they're trying to
mainstream it. Are all the foreign tours going to be
Crown Jewels now? Because it doesn't even make sense for Australia.
Australia doesn't have any kings and queens and shit, Like

(55:04):
if they went to London and called a Crown Jewel,
it's like, oh, there's some kind of a segue there.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
I get it fair enough, Yeah, I guess, but no,
that's what I get. What are they gonna be like
the fucking boomerang Slam is Fast or something I don't know.
Crown jew well, no, you're right, like it's it is
extra weird when there's not some sort of royalty alignment,
right yeah, if it was, if it was in England,
it's like, oh, the Crown Jewel of England, Well, the Kings, there's.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
The royal family. Like yeah, I know it's not what
it was, but still it's it's something that you can
brand with. It would make sense. But Australia, oh, well
they are the prisoners of people that had Crown Jewel.
I guess.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
I mean, yeah, right, there's it in there, like the
Crown Jewel. It's like, hey, remember how you guys got
here because they because they put you on a fucking
boat and sent you there because you were crooks and weirdos.
They're like, yeah, we really like kings and queens. Thanks,
thanks for reminding.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
They just couldn't come up with a name for Perth.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Huh yeah, well that's the punch.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
Out at Perth.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
I don't know why not call it bad Blood. It's
not like it's a shot.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
I mean, fuck, that makes sense too.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
It's a fine name. I don't think it's you know,
maybe do Australians have some sort of objection to the
naming things with blood.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
I think they're a very censored society, and not one
hundred percent sure. I know the people aren't, but I
remember over the years that they had a lot of
video games that I think had green blood. Oh yeah,
but we're talking a while ago, so I don't know
how loose it is. Obviously I'm not down there.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
But you know, yeah, you're not down under?

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
Do you think do you think how fucking funny it
would be if Australia they were just saying to them,
They're like, hey, listen, we're going to bring a WWE
pay per view over there. We're gonna call it Death
to America.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
What do you in Australia?

Speaker 2 (57:05):
I think, Yeah, what do you think in Australia?

Speaker 1 (57:08):
Weird? That would be a weird one. Yeah, well for
the name, yeah, well no, just for being in Australia.
If it was in Saudi Arabia, I'd be all for it.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
Yeah right, well, you know, well that that could be perfect.
They could just do that any any country they're running
in now. It feels like if they did you're right,
if they did that in Saudi Arabia, a w w.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
Oh they could do a whole tour Joe, WWE presents
death to America in North Korea, Like, yeah, I get it.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
It'd be great and you'd do like who could be
who would main event that the American Oh, the American.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
Night You can make it a nationalists like our American
Nightmare Cody Rhodes versus Kim Jong UN's personal bodyguards and something.
You know.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
I'm you know what, I don't think we're very far
off from that happening from Kim Jong mun paying WWE
to come in Jewish.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
I mean, why not.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
I'm not even trying to be silly. I really think
that it's very possible.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
Well, they're going to do it underneath the guise of WWE,
you know, helped save Saudi Arabia and transform them into
a westernized nation. They're going to go to North Korea
and teach them about the positives of being friends of America.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
Maybe Bill Burke can go to North Korea. That would
be good.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
But never mind the fact that the crippling poverty couldn't
even have fetch one wrestler's fucking appearance, let alone a
whole show.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
Joe, so h well, I mean you know what I
think he would be. I think that the comedians would
be welcome.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
There though, sure yeah they would like they go there,
but it is only one way tickets.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
Dude. Don't you love it when your ruler is the
smartest guy in the world? Dude, it's crazy. Hey, Hey,
how did you guys get someone who's so tall and
handsome and cool as your leader? That's brutal, a fucking whore.
I'm so disgusted. I can't It's such a disappointment, dude.

(59:15):
We talked about it though, like last week or a
week even before that.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
It was like we knew what was happening.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
I know, but it's real. It really has such a
feeling of you know, every everything it got. I hate
being so dour, but it really What are you gonna
say about this? You know that for the most part,
every person that you look at that's famous is going
to more than likely disappoint you at some point. Sure,
that's why there's you know, you got like your mister Rogers,

(59:42):
Dolly Parton, Betty White's there's just this tear of human
where they're gonna live to be one hundred and they'll
never fuck up. And I always that's not most people.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
But when it comes to Bill Burry. I always remember
the nice statement, the nice comments that he made on
our iTunes page way back in the day.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
Oh, they know, I think I was thinking of that too,
where I remember I remember being so fucking complimented by that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Yeah, so, I mean it could be a fake. We
never knew, but I always thought it was neat.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
We never knew, but it was just almost You got
to remember, dude, once I'm explaining this to you like
you weren't there, but to the audience, like, you know,
this was fifteen years ago. It's not like this guy
was who he was. You know, it was very possible
that he as a radio slash podcast guy listened to
one of the two dozen wrestling podcasts that got any

(01:00:34):
attention at the time.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Yeah, and liked it. You know, we're kind of big.
We were kind of like king nuts there for a
minute for wrestling shows in the stitcher days. I mean,
we went to the fucking Award show for foxs sakes.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
Yeah, well, you know, this is this is what happens
when you don't get talent on board, like Conrad Thompson.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
Oh, that's true, that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
That's what happens when you don't go and pay for
friends to talk to you on show.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
And now and now instead of applause in Saudi Arabia,
Bill Burr will be hearing this. That's the show, a dude.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
I don't think journalists should be allowed to say whatever
they want either. Oh oh thanks? So ah, Hey, hey,
Chris Turkey. Isn't it crazy that there's people out there
they think that they can say bad things about you?
That's brutal. Oh I like that. It reminds me of

(01:01:38):
the old days in Boston.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
Oh oh god, alright, what else do we have? Update?
Real quick? So it's official. Obviously they're in the semifinals
right now of LFG season two, and our very own
lovely LuFisto and Jeff Lipmann have been covering it and
there's a lot of people that enjoy that show and
very thankful for that. But apparently they are going to

(01:02:02):
come out with the season three leg is getting ready
to film its third season at the Performance Center very soon.
This means that fans won't be left waiting long for
another round of in your face drama and fierce in
ring competitions. So yeah, good for that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
So so are these still the same kids though? Going
into season three, we're still having.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
Yeah, the people that graduate get to go away, but
the people that don't graduate get to go on to
the next season. Uh for the most pick. Yeah, did
bj Ray advance nor? Right, we're still in the semifinals.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
So okay.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
Bj Ray holy Field's kid is the only one that
I'm like, Ah, it sucks that he's out, but he's
definitely gonna be there in season three. There's no way
do you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
Think that holy fields kids saw that share would rampage
Jackson's kid And he was like, that's why boxing is
so much classy, Like my dad that actually clearly gave
a shit and took care of me and didn't make
me into a fucking psycho. Right, And here I am
in WWE and I'm gonna probably make a couple fucking

(01:03:09):
million dollars and that dude's going to jail. So well, no, no,
I mean, I guess that's a good thing. The show
has been pretty successful. I feel like, yeah, you're like
a lot of I feel as far as the WWEE
reality shows, I still hear more and that's just outside
of here too about people watching that LFG show. You know,

(01:03:31):
then even the Netflix show I feel like that even
kind of went.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
Have you paid attention to Michelle McCool, because I'm kind
of curious. It seems like almost every year they're switching
out the coaches at this point, right because you had
Mickey James the first year this year that you've had
Michelle McCool. And I'm not really sure because I see
a lot of people that don't like Michelle McCool, whether
it's because she replaced Taker's co host on the podcast

(01:03:56):
however you want to look at it, or because she
replaced Mickey James, and a lot of people feel that
Mickey James has far more, you know, veteran advice to
give than somebody like Michelle McCool. Do you think it
would be a good idea for them to keep her
around or or maybe even switch out the seat and
get somebody else? Yeah, I get somebody else. I mean
enough of this, I am well, what about the other three?

(01:04:20):
What about Taker, Booker and Bubba? Would you switch any
of those guys out too?

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
Or?

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
Uh? I mean Taker, you just keep them because of
the name value. Obviously, Bubba creates all the drama, I'm sure,
because he's a big fucking quef h see I keep
him around.

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
Bubba is interesting because there are times I totally agree
with you and he just says dummy things. But he
really does feel like he inspires some of these kids
sometimes like.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
He's nobody because nobody would talk to them like he does. Right,
That's why he has a unique voice, and the voice
she's often fucking duh. But when it's not, like I said,
it's different than most people. Right, they're not getting coaches
that are going to talk to them like some fucking
fifty year old guy from the Jersey Shore, right, you know,

(01:05:14):
or whatever the Long Island like, they're just that is
a unique voice for most kids that I don't know
grew up amateur wrestling in Ohio, you know. So they're
going to feel, wow, I've never had this approach before.
You know, he's not asking to pray. He's just saying,
I'm a bitch and I need to do better. You know,
they were talking about I see the chat room. They're

(01:05:35):
talking about the thick necked girl and Bailey.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
I I really want Bailey to fucking graduate and go
to evolve and get up on the main roster. But yeah,
she's she's she's got the look, have you have you
seen her. She's the huge muscle.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
Right, Yeah, you can't avoid that, that chick rightly.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
But man, there's just times where she really feels like
she just doesn't click in the ring.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
She's no Jade Cargle.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
Is that what you're saying. Yeah, she's no Jade Cargle.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
She can't work. She can't work like that workhorse Jade Cargole.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
She's trying to be a Stephanie for CORR.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
But you know, oh man, yeah, no way, you only
get one of those at a time. I feel like
maybe two if we're lucky. Uh yeah, I don't know, man,
I don't know if I would immediately switch any of
these people out, with the exception of Michelle McCool. And
that's mostly just because I still think it's fucking ridiculous
that we have to continue to play this game like

(01:06:32):
she was any fucking good ever. Come on, come on.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
But she's only there, that's be honest.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
Yeah, And that's and that to me to some extent,
like it's like telling a little kid they're good at dancing,
like being like, oh, look, you know a good dance show.
It's like, no, no one was ever sitting around looking
out for Michelle McCool wrestling match.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
Is Michelle McCool the basically the only reason she's there
is because Undertaker just wants to keep her happy, or
is the only reason she's there because Undertaker needs like
a security pet.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
No, No, Undertaker doesn't need a fucking handler. He was
just sucking off one of the Saudi princes in Las
Vegas fucking two weeks ago. He can be a big
boy and doesn't need his wife to sit around and
make his bed for him or something.

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
Sure like he.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Can handle this by himself. Put a real, actual talented
woman's wrestler on this fucking show. Yeah, I have them
enough of this bullshit.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
Gable throw up some names, Jazz or Jackie. I'd like
to see Jazz, I really would. Stephen Richards is a
great fuck it. I would love to see Stephen Richards
replace Booker personally, not a Booker. I know he runs
his own school and everything, so clearly that's a good
reason to have him around, But I don't know. Booker

(01:07:56):
also stages a lot of drama too, and it's sometimes
me Stevie. Yeah, Ivory Ivory really.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
OK, Yeah, I'd love to have Ivory on the show.
Ivory's fucking charismatic as shit.

Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
Oh I'm not saying she isn't. I'm just surprised that
you liked Ivory that much. That's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
Oh No, she just gets she gets overlooked. Man, I'll
tell you, like, I've seen enough interviews and heard her
talk enough to where I remember thinking to myself, like,
why do they other than at this point she's an
older woman, I'm like, why do they hide her? She
knows how to talk.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
She's she's a little Joan Rivers sometimes.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
Yeah, that's more. That's more interesting than fucking Michelle.

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
McCool interesting, yes, but PC.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
No, Yeah, I've Ivory.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
I've she dances a little bit like it's not a
bad thing. I agree with you. She's charismatic. I can
listen to her talk. But is she the PC image
that they want? Or can she play that PC image?

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
I don't know, man, maybe maybe. And by the way,
even if she isn't, and do we let fucking tubby Bubba.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
On the truth? You know what, I fucking take it back.
You're right, why would the fun Bubba Dudley?

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
All right? All right? If Bubba Dudley gets to sit
around and be like, why are you shut him, coward,
you're a coward, then why you can let Ivory who
At this point, it's almost quaint and kind of cute
coming from a woman of her age doing talking like that,

(01:09:29):
like it would be good. I don't know, yeah, Stevie
would be good in that role, Ivory. I don't know
who you trade, sorry, yeah, I don't know who you
trade Bubba out for. But I mean you just leave
the Undertaker on there, because he's the fucking under.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
Yeah, No, Undertaker makes sense. He's a cornerstone, he's a
recognizable name, and what else is he going to do?
Another podcast? So Nicky Nikki Bella, go go away.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
I like the idea of him. You know what, the
Undertaker should do a show and I should just be
called my wife's show. You know what.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
I think you flipped the whole script.

Speaker 6 (01:10:07):
You bring into Jerry, your coaches to Jerry, and then
he just pretends like you can't speak English even though
he can.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
Right, and he just starts yelling at you for things
you've done. You've done right and wrong. You just think
you're always pissing him off, but then when it comes
time to give out points, he speaks in perfect English
I'd be great, and then you.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
Just put and then you just give him all the
polite Caucasian college kids that are afraid to say they
don't understand him, like, oh, no, coach, Jerry is great,
I'm learning so much. And then they just shoot over

(01:10:59):
to and he's like that, I don't know. They don't
even know. They have no idea that we're fucking with
them right now.

Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
Regal is a good name. I like that one. Dirk
Regal would be great, Regal Undertaker would be great. Man.
As far as the women, I still think a Jazz
would be great. But you know what, I would go
with even a Trish because look, Trish as a coach
would be fantastic because even though and it's arguable that

(01:11:27):
she might not be the best thing in the ring,
she absolutely turned the WWE around from being just a
sexy bombshell into being taken seriously as a character and
in ring right.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
Yeah, she's fucking Rick Flair compared to the Machine.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
Yeah yeah, yeah, oh no, no, for sure, for sure,
I'm not. I'm just saying like, if we're picking an
all star cast, I think as far as the women go, yeah,
I'd like a Trish Stratus to to go out there
and show these kids some shops, if not show them
how to be safe and still be able to rustle
at fifty years old and look like you're five.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
And you want to talk about an interesting dynamic. I
guess to add to the show, you got a coach
who's older and still very hot, right, you know?

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
I thought they had that with Mickey James too, but.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
Yeah, well they weren't going to say anything to Mickey.
Mickey's not Vicky Vickyoy.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
Vicky would be a fig you know what. That's an
accidental faux pap. But that's a great name.

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
Well, if they had a manager anymore, Yeah, they don't
do anything. They don't do any of those fangled managers. Instead,
they just try to get wrestlers who have no idea
how to talk to talk.

Speaker 1 (01:12:42):
Would be a great coach too, but I think I
don't think w W even recognizes her a lot of
the time.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
Which they only use people that you know are not
fair but dating somebody 're related to them apparently.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
Who would be the fourth one then? Yeah, Stevie Richards.
I'm fine with that too. Throwing Stevie.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Yeah, I'd like Seevie on a show like that I
think he'd be, and honestly, I think he's more TV
ready in terms of looking aesthetically like someone who should
be on television and a reality show, yeah, than than Bubba.

Speaker 1 (01:13:15):
Raven or Shane Douglas.

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
Raven.

Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
Shane Douglas would actually be really interesting because I have
a feeling that he could really smarten people up and shit.
But he's not a PC guy.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
No, well you know what it is, Shane Shane Douglas
guy who he's smart, he's a great commentator, he's got
a great mind for it. But he's almost in like
that Enzo category, even though I mean Shane was much
much more talented and ring where they're just hey, that's it,
we're not using him. Nope, Nope. You're like, well you sure, nope,

(01:13:52):
just no forever. No, it's weird, it's it's not fair.
Ken Kennedy. Yeah, it's like Ken Kennedy, Like it's another
of those people where for whatever reason, WWE's like, hey, yeah,
you can even bat, you can motherfuck us, you can
sue us, you can you know, forever shit on us.
But we'll you know, take these people back. But some

(01:14:13):
of these other people absolutely not.

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
As far as managers. If they did a season dedicated
to managers, I'd love that. But I think Vicky would
be a good one. Jim Cornett would be a good one.
I'm trying to think of two others that it would
put out there, Paul Haymon if he wanted to close
it up a little bit. I mean, that's three good
fucking coaches right there. Al you can even technically make
the fourth coach trist Stratus, because she was doing that

(01:14:36):
for Test and Albert for a while there.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
Oh well, you could always get Don Cows because apparently
he's good. He has seventy two wrestlers that he manages
because he's so talented.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
Vince Drusso as a manager, I don't know about that one.
It's a little rough.

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
By the way, Do you and I ever talk about
that whole thing with how Stevie Richards got a bunch
of fucking heat because of I'm having to bet about
old boxhead there in aw Kyle Kyle.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
Fleecher, No, no, I don't think we did. I didn't
even know about that. I must have missed that he
had problems with Kyle Fletcher.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
Well, Stevie was basically saying that the kid just does
moves and he's not a really great worker and he
needs to go somewhere like NXT to learn how to
structure matches yea and which is true?

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
Sure? Sure?

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
And Don Kallus was like, oh, Stevie Richards doesn't know anything,
he doesn't know what he's talking about. And it's like,
shot the fuck up dot.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
I remember this story. It was the one. Shit, it's
the one where an aw wrestler was overly sensitive about
some criticism.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
Oh yeah, I know, yeah, that that rare story. You
might have heard it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
It's kind of like with the Kenny Omega losing his
ship about Gail's comments about Riho, Oh my god, and
then other AW people dog piling on Gail.

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
Two. Is there anything funnier in that moment than Kenny
Omega being like, oh, wellne gues some people just have
shower grapes. And it's like Kenny Gail Kim married a
multi millionaire and hasn't had to do shit now right,
for the last fifteen to twenty years of her life.

(01:16:23):
She didn't have to leave the house, she doesn't have
to talk about wrestling, she'd has to do any of this,
and she was still a better in ring performer than
basically every woman that has wrestled at AW.

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
But did you I'm trying to think.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
Of anybody that was even close to her as wrestled
in a.

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
But it's weird that, you know, Kenny Omega strikes down
on Gail Kim like her comments right, So it dissolved
because she she had comments to say about Riho, but
when they were when she was asked about her discomfort
about seeing Riho, she said, and I think me and
you when we first saw Riho back in the day,

(01:17:02):
had the exact same sentiment. She said. For me, I
saw that one segment and I remember feeling uncomfortable because yes,
she appeared to look very young, and she dressed in
that match like a little girl. In my mind, when
the cameraman was shot up her skirt, I felt uncomfortable
and that set the tone for the match. Do you
remember when we first saw her and she looked like

(01:17:24):
she weighed eighty pounds and she was wearing that white
dress that like school girl dress?

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
Yea, towards the beginning of AW and you and I
were like, is this girl eight?

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
What are we doing right? It's like and Kenny Omega's
defensive about this. Yeah, dude, that's literally what she looked like.
It looked like you were trucking out a child to
get her ass beat.

Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
Yeah, it's weird. It's a fucking weird thing to do.
I mean, you have to remember, forever and ever in wrestling, right,
if a guy was under two hundred pounds in six feet,
he was small, right, that was a small guy. Sean
Michaels was considered a small guy. He was like merely

(01:18:09):
five eleven and two hundred pounds, right, And they were like,
look at this little this little guy.

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
Arguably, I mean arguably back then. Anyways, the reason that
all the ratings dipped and everything went away was because
Sean was too small. They wanted the Hulk Hogan guys.
They wanted the King Kong bundies, they wanted the big
dudes guys. Sean sighs were not seen as credible. That's
why they even paired him with fucking Nash mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
They had him as his heater, and then they made
Nash the champion because he was big. Like, all of
that aside. Even if people like, hey, join us in
you know two twenty five, though, man, you still look
she looks like a toddler. She was like a little little,

(01:18:56):
frail baby.

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
You can't shake that image from my head of her
wearing that white, fucking that outfit. She looked tiny, She
looked small. I didn't catch the camera shots going up
the skirt, but clearly Gail did and it fucked with her.
And that's that's another thing too. It's like, you know, here,
here's the difference between Gail Kim, a professional wrestler that's

(01:19:21):
been doing this for years and knows how to be
sexy for the camera, I'm sure, and has seen other
people be sexy for the camera and exactly how the
camera does it. She's going to recognize these things way
faster than some lunkhead from Chicago will. So the fact
that she saw camera angles and camera shots of Riho
sexualizing somebody who looks like a little girl. Yeah, yeah,

(01:19:44):
who better to talk about it? Kenny?

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
You know, Kenny? Well do you know what's all? So?
I guess I don't like to I can put people
on blasts because I don't think it's always one like
a complete, you know, sexual thing. But a lot of
this anime shit is very creep coated. A lot of

(01:20:07):
it is like the like Ooh, I don't know, maybe
I need to like dog everyone asked, man, and you're
like turned on by this, like this is what's getting
you going, Like that's fucking weird, and so of course
some of these fucking weirdos to watch AW and Kenny Omega,

(01:20:30):
of course, which I got. I don't even know what
the fuck Kenny Omega's sexuality is. Who fucking knows at
this point. But if he is uh into women, and
he's into any sort of woman, it's this which it's
not giving woman. If you get what I'm saying, you
know what I mean? Like, oh, well, I guess Gail

(01:20:50):
just doesn't understand the complexity of sending a toddler out
in a bikini and having a horror can runners. Yeah, yeah, No, Kenny,
we get to comply of it. You're just a fucking
weirdo dude.

Speaker 1 (01:21:01):
Quoting Russell Purists from the Huge Pop Wrestling Show Thanks
to Alas for this, he says. Gail Kim says that
the Kenny Omega's tweet towards her was derogatory. Quote even
what he said though, was very derogatory. Again, he was
probably reading things online and believing the AW fans who
twisted all the messages and messaging in my opinion, I
don't know. Maybe he did read my original answer, but

(01:21:24):
I but to say I do the splits. I didn't
even know what that meant. At first. I'm like, what
do you mean? I do the splits? For TKO? I'm like,
what is she talking about? Or what is he talking about?

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
So oh I even forgot to that, But yeah, well
you know what, that's that's what these guys, that's how
they operate.

Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
Oh my god, how many people have the fans verbally
and social medialy assaulted just because they disagreed with somebody's take.
How many times has Disco been hit by aw fans?
Like at this it's NonStop for nobody knows who's who
your career is. You wouldn't have a career if Conrad

(01:22:03):
Thompson didn't talk about you. It's like, oh, it's like
a stop.

Speaker 2 (01:22:08):
Please please, things happened before you were alive, please please
try to take that into consideration. That's like somebody sitting
around even at our age and being like, who's this?
Uh Bruno Sammy Samwich? Guy? Who the fuck is this?
Like this guy think he's something and I'm not clearly

(01:22:29):
saying that Disco Inferno was that level of a star
or even close to it. He wouldn't, he wouldn't say
that now, But I'm just saying, like, that's how some
of these kids act like.

Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
But that's the whole thing is because it's it's this
weird thing of if you say that they were nothing
long enough in your own echo chamber, you start to
believe it. Even though Disco did some pretty great things
and had some pretty great.

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
There's there's also this level of of just humor to
may of these people going, yeah, well you didn't fucking
you didn't become a big star, you didn't do anything. Yeah,
and you did even less, right, so what are you
judging it? Like? You ever seen that old clip? And
this is like another bots and sports reference, so probably not.

(01:23:16):
So I'm just kind of saying this into the ether
because I could almost guarantee you haven't. But there was
a dude. They played for the Celtics. His name was
Brian Scalabrine or Scalabrini.

Speaker 1 (01:23:26):
Yes, I've heard that, Yeah, go.

Speaker 2 (01:23:27):
On, yeah he I think he played for your Chicago
Bulls at one point too. But he was just a big,
tall ginger white guy, and he ended up getting a
championship on the previous Celtics title run right, and people
will going, oh, he fucking sucks. Man, he's no good.
Nobody could ever you know, blah blah blah. He shouldn't

(01:23:49):
be there. And so he started saying to people, Okay,
I'll come and you know, come play one on run
with me, just random like kids that were in college.
As like a four year old man. He was like, yeah, sure,
I'll play you. Come on, come, come try to beat me.
He's like, score two points on me, and he would
just go dog walk these people just viciously beat the

(01:24:11):
shit out of them out on the court, like eleven
to zero. He would just beat all these people and
he would look at them and he'd be like, never
forget this sack. You might not think about think much
of me, but I'm closer to Lebron James than you
are to me. Wow. And that's yeah, And that's sort
of the.

Speaker 1 (01:24:29):
Way, like, great fucking quote, man, that is a hard quote. Shit.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
Yep, oh thank you Gable beat me to it. I'm
glad I quoted it correctly. Yeah. So you think of
that and it's like, maybe that's half some of these
guys should have it, like, just go infernal, right, I'm
closer to fucking yeah, I'm closer to Steve Austin than
you are to me, So maybe you should shut the
fuck up. You know. Yeah, that's kind of interesting when

(01:24:55):
you put it in that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:57):
That absolutely separates the men from the boys, if you will.
With the Gail kimshit is fucking ridiculous. I'm trying to
see what else we got, Oh, Lacey Evans, Right, So
I did kind of want to talk about this, and
I was joking with you and Dan in the back
and I'm like, oh, we're gonna get fucking copyright struck
this week if we put this up. But she's she's

(01:25:18):
losing her mind right now online.

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
Way I thought she'd be doing well.

Speaker 1 (01:25:23):
Yeah, she's not handling the layoff too well. So she's
ramping up. And this is Ring Ringside news. Lacey Evans
is ramping up her legal crusade, this time turning her
sights on social media. After launching a wave of DMCA
takedowns against news sites and wrestling platforms, the former WWE

(01:25:46):
star is now reportedly issuing copyright complaints and strikes aimed
at social media posts that reference her controversial past using
her real name Macy Estralla. She's over thirteen thousand takedown
requests via Google. She has filled out Joe thirteen thousand

(01:26:10):
copyright strikes.

Speaker 2 (01:26:14):
I mean, I assume she hired some companies.

Speaker 1 (01:26:16):
I still it's insane, many of which involved content that
she doesn't legally own. These include public WWE appearances, her
own social media post, her own social media posts, and
news articles reporting on her exit from WWE and launch
into OnlyFans and now things are truly escalating. Ringside News

(01:26:37):
received a copyright takedown notice via Reddit after they shared
a direct link to an article titled Lacy Evans hits
more wrestling sites with false DMS DMCA claims and ongoing
effort to erase WWE and OnlyFans history. That article was
entirely original content written and published by ringside News, but

(01:26:58):
still the post was taken down.

Speaker 2 (01:27:02):
Yeah go on, yeah, And do you know what makes
this even worse to me in my opinion, is that
all of this ship that she's like, I'm trying to
get rid of me being a wrestler. I'm trying to
get rid of me doing the only fan shit. She
wasn't like a girl in college when she did this.

Speaker 1 (01:27:21):
She's like a career with the swat or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
Yeah, she was like a thirty five year old woman
when she did this.

Speaker 1 (01:27:27):
She had already been in the military.

Speaker 2 (01:27:28):
Gone over, dude, you know, I mean we all know
this to some extent, right as great there's people that
go and do all this adult shit, you know, back
in the day, the brassers, the bang bus like guys.
I know that we're very disconnected from this. I know
a lot of men are. But like those women grow

(01:27:49):
up to be grow up. But you know what I'm saying,
they go on to become mothers, they go on to.

Speaker 1 (01:27:54):
Because kids or a kid. I think, yeah, right.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
And I'm sure they're you know, you know, I probably
wish I didn't do that, you know, but these were
young people acting like young people. You were a thirty
five year old woman who'd already, like you said, had
a full career, did the wrestling couple of YAsO. And
now you're like, ah, I can't believe these people would

(01:28:18):
have these pictures. You're a fucking Child's wrong with you?

Speaker 1 (01:28:23):
That's not even the part that bothers me. Yeah, dude,
this is a woman that's killed motherfuckers with her bare hands.
This is a woman that's shot and killed terrorists. She
was part of fucking swat teams, and she's afraid that
she posted her titties online and people are gonna have
something to say about it. And I don't understand that.

(01:28:46):
I don't understand that mentality, right, Like, it's one thing
if you're a homebody or you're trying to live a
normal family life. Dude, at what point was this girl's
life normal? At what point was she ever fucked? It's weird.
He should be the trailblazer in a lot of ways, right.
I'm not saying, oh, she's the first woman to do
only fans, but it's like, you have somebody that has

(01:29:08):
this big career within WWE, look making it to WWE,
going on in Rustlemania. These are big things. These are
big things for anybody, even if they're no longer in
the business and on the side. To have that history
of the military expertise and the legitimacy and then doing
only fans is another version of entertainment you got into. Like,
at what point should you be ashamed of anything? You

(01:29:29):
should be proud. It's not like she went on only
fans when she looked like Sonny, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:29:37):
Well, not even basing it on just what she looked
like at the time, looks any of that or whatever
you want to say, Sure, but once again just based
off of the fact of like, you can't blame that
on a young, foolish mistake.

Speaker 1 (01:29:53):
But you don't even have to. You don't even have to.
And Alice want to say, and is she a born
again Christian or joined scienti pology or something? Maybe, But
I thought she was always a Christian. I thought that
was kind of like the under that's not new, even
when she was doing OnlyFans, she was a Christian.

Speaker 2 (01:30:10):
Well, you got to remember it's like, wasn't part of
the reason why she got herself in trouble when she
was doing some weird, fucking Jesus he coded fucking trumpy shit.
Wasn't that part of the reason.

Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
Maybe, But I mean that's just that's politics and politics aside. Look,
there's just as many people that are fans of what
she believes in politically that are against her. It's just
it's a weird thing to be that much. Unless she's
trying to become like a pastor or a priest or,
so I don't even.

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
Know, dude, Well this is momitious. Is also where it's
a problem now and it's not even a thing anymore,
where it's like people are like, well, that's kind of
just their ah, political belief. And now people's political beliefs
finger quote have started to cross into just straight up
misinformation and conspiracy theory and weird shit. Right, so people

(01:31:01):
are like, oh, no, no, this is stressed, and I'm like, yeah, yeah, no, man,
Like it's a it's a political belief to be like,
I think that big businesses are helping the economy, and
I think we should do trade. And then there's people
that are like, you know, the head shapes of black people.
You're like, yeah, that's no, that's not a political belief.

(01:31:21):
That's just being a fucking racist weirdo. Oh no, no,
I mean she's what. Yeah, But that's the problem is
we've gotten to that point where people do I'm not
saying you were doing that, but that's where people will
go like to be like just because somebody had but
a political belief and it's just like.

Speaker 1 (01:31:40):
That was not even what She's a racing that's that's see,
that's completely besides the point right, Like, I understand that
if she was trying to erase her political viewpoints, that's
one thing she's trying to erase her wrestling career. Honestly,
I thought, and I kind of still stand by it.
I liked her characters in w w E back in
the day when it was on, whether it was the

(01:32:00):
Southern Bell or it was the military Badass. I was
always very positive about her career. I thought she was
a really good written character that didn't quite land and
never really.

Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
Kind of got worse because of COVID like a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:32:15):
But I had no problem with her wrestling career. And
it's weird that she's striking news sites wrestling nerds for
even talking about her career, not her politics, not her religion,
not even what she did in the military. She's striking
people talking about her wrestling and her only fans. I

(01:32:36):
think that's the weird part.

Speaker 2 (01:32:38):
Well, dude, nothing's funny to me in this situation. It
kind of also goes back to this idea of stop
putting people in the business that don't understand it in
any capacity and have no interest in learning about it.
I'll tell you this much, right, peat Gas can go
and get coffee at the Dunk of Donuts without getting

(01:32:59):
fucking you.

Speaker 1 (01:33:00):
Know, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:33:01):
I have getten mobbed for autographs.

Speaker 1 (01:33:02):
I have his book and I would absolutely mob him
for an autograph. He's great.

Speaker 2 (01:33:09):
And you know what, there's the for forty something plus
year old male wrestling super fan audience. Yeah, you might
be able to still get away with shoving a couple
of munchkins in your mouth and getting out the door
without somebody noticing.

Speaker 1 (01:33:26):
You, right, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:33:28):
Like that? That to me is it goes again to
people just not knowing. Man, when you're out of wrestling
for a half a dozen years, if that often even less,
no one knows who the fuck you are or no
one cares.

Speaker 1 (01:33:43):
Do you think this might be some reverse psychology shit?

Speaker 2 (01:33:45):
Though?

Speaker 1 (01:33:46):
Maybe doing all these copyright strikes is a way to
get her name back in people's mouths.

Speaker 2 (01:33:50):
Well, that's unfortunately the side effect of it if she
doesn't realize that, right you know, Like Jude, people just
stop covering you. You're not that interesting. Like the only
reason you're being mentioned right now is because you're doing this. Duh? Like,
how are we once again not a very bright person?
We're dealing with here. But then again, that's like part

(01:34:12):
of the reason too. She's probably like the moon is
made of fucking cheese and the earth is flat and
one of these funds.

Speaker 1 (01:34:17):
But it's not that, dude. That's that's why you keep
going back to that. And it's like, I would totally
understand that if she had a change of heart politically
or religiously and she's like, oh, you know, I used
to be a Christian, now I'm an atheist whatever. I
can understand going back and changing that, because those are
life changing situations for the individual politically, changing from the

(01:34:37):
hard left to a hard right whatever it may be, right,
I almost understand that, especially if she's trying to clean
up and maybe try and get a job for governor,
like Matt Riddle is. But she's not. She's trying to
erase the parts of her career that we're kind of
like looked fondly on or fondling on. But you know,

(01:35:00):
it's just it's it's odd. It's because I agree with you.
If it was something important like religion or politics or
something that had to do with their family, I totally
get it. But the fact is is she had a
lot of fans in wwe like her hater regardless. Now,
at the time when she was relevant, she had a
lot of people that fucking liked her, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:35:22):
Like I said, though, still once again, this was a
grown up that made grown up decisions, right that was
like this isn't you know when people played this game
when they're like, it's just like a big grown up.
But it's you know, someone like Page where people would
be like, oh, Page did all this shit when she's younger,
I'm like did She was a fucking giant child, stop

(01:35:44):
like she didn't know what the fuck was going on.

Speaker 1 (01:35:46):
For the most people, this would be like Page erasing
or wrestling career.

Speaker 2 (01:35:50):
Right right, right right, Well, you know what, isn't that
kind of crazy to think about? Where I don't even
know if I want to put this in, But that's fine.
If the Page was like, hey, I'm trying to get
all this fucking shit off the internet, which would be impossible,
by the way, completely possible. Course, at least with her'd
be like, hey, man, I was fucking taking advantage of
I was young. This shit was leaked, it was fucked up,

(01:36:13):
you know, and this is a woman who's in her thirties.
They put that shit on the internet to make money
after she got fucking fired from a wrestling company. It
so again, no, you did that, You did that, right,
you did that. This This is not, like, like I said,
a page situation where she got portrayed by some creepy,

(01:36:33):
fucking older dude that was trying to fucking film her
fucking and then leaking in on the internet. Like if
she had a grievance about that, totally under totally one
percent understandable, why now she would be putting out shit
trying to stop it. But her like, fucking get over yourself, lady,
fucking idiot, what an idiot? And like I said, all

(01:36:55):
this is going to do is make people talk about
it more, spread it more, and make more of a
problem for you. Understanding wrestling is not understanding the Internet.
Just dumbass.

Speaker 1 (01:37:04):
So we'll get ready to wrap it up for wrestling Soup.
We got Frank and Gust tomorrow and uh, I'm gonna
see if I can get that number going. I really am.
I want to bring back the call in show, maybe not.

Speaker 2 (01:37:15):
Every week, just sixty nine four twenty hells yeah bro
yeah bro, calling no no No Soup sixty nine sixty
nine that's too many numbers, doesn't matter. That's how fucking
that's how Agie show is. We had, we had numbers

(01:37:38):
to us, will our phone numbers?

Speaker 1 (01:37:41):
Yeah, we'll pick it up anyways. Uh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:37:44):
I just let you guys, You guys just break the
conventional rules of saying you know, Aggie stuff. We fucking
changed the numbers of telephone, the structure of it from
from the root of it, dude, absolutely by from the
pace Frank your gust tomorrow, and of course check out
the new LFG show just drops.

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