Jordan Maxwell Sacred Secrets Exposed: The Hidden Codes of Religion

Prepare to have everything you thought you knew about religious symbolism completely shattered. In this mind-bending episode, we dive deep into the controversial research of Jordan Maxwell, the legendary researcher who spent decades uncovering the ancient origins and occult meanings behind religious symbols and texts. From the astrotheological connections in biblical stories to the hidden meanings of church architecture, discover how ancient mystery schools and secret societies have embedded their esoteric knowledge in plain sight. We explore how sun worship, celestial alignments, and pre-Christian traditions shaped modern religious practices, and why powerful institutions might have deliberately obscured these connections. Warning: This episode challenges conventional religious understanding and presents alternative interpretations that mainstream scholars often ignore or suppress.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
It so happens that I have a subject that I've
been wanting to talk about, so it seems like this
would be just as good a time as any.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
In the Bible.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
There are many things that are misunderstood and mistranslated into.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
English that comes from what we call Hebrew.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
First of all, we need to understand that that which
we refer to as Hebrew is in point of fact,
not Hebrew but Canaanite Phoenician Canaanite. The bloodline is from
the ancient Middle East called the Phoenicians. The Phoenicians are
their area. That area in which Phoenicia existed was called

(00:41):
cana the land of cana So today we refer to
the Canaanite Phoenician Canaanite language as Hebrew. All you have
to do is go to reference books and look up
ancient Hebrew, and that will tell you ancient Hebrew is
actually actually Phoenician Canaanite, and it develops and mutates and

(01:07):
comes down through history until today we call it Hebrew.
But Hebrew is actually a Phoenician language, And many of
the concepts and ideas which are expressed in the Old
Testament are not original to the Old Testament. There were
it goes back to even further back into ancient history,

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so that many of the concepts and belief systems in
Judaism and Christianity are very, very ancient. And I believe
that the Bible is one of the most important books
on the earth because it's really telling you some really
interesting things. But if you don't understand how to read
the symbols, that's never going to dawn on you how
this stuff works. I think the New Testament is probably

(01:55):
the most important story in the whole world, but not
as history, but as a metaphor, as an encoded message.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
But let me go.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Back to this one subject that I've been very interested
in for a long time, and that is in the
beginning of the Bible and Genesis. One says in the
King James Bible, in the beginning God created the heavens
and the earth. But that's not what it says in

(02:26):
the old ancient Hebrew or Phoenician language. That's not what
it says in the original language. That's how it was
translated from the English and the King's English. Well, the
King's English, the King James version was translated by the
best translators that the King had.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
At the time.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
And it was very well done. However, they know more
about the language today than what they did then, and
so there's a lot of imperfections in the King James
Bible that could be misleading unless you understand what the
words actually meant in the ancient world.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
And so when you.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Read in the beginning, this is Genesis one one. In
the beginning, God created the heavens in the earth. That's
not what it says in Hebrew. It says in the
beginning of the creation l Lohim L Loohim created the
heavens and the earth. Lhim is not the word God.

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L is a Phoenician Canaanite name or word for deity
l e l. We talked a little bit about that
last week. Lohim is like adding an S onto an
English word. You have car for car or car s

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cars more than one.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
So adding an S to.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
The end of most English words means it's plural in
the plural. Well, that's exactly what l Lohim means. L
is God. Lahem is plural. So the correct understanding should
be read in the Hebrew. Read in the beginning, the
gods created the heavens and the earth, not God, and

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more interesting than that.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
This is why.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Incidentally, and Genus is one twenty eight, when God is
creating Adam and Eve, the first couple, and it says
God said, come let us make man in our image according.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
To our likeness. Who's us and our?

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Was God talking to himself, Come let us make man
an our image after our likeness. Later on in genuis
I think it's three, the scripture says God said, here
man has becomes one.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Of us, knowing good and evil.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
The point is, who is God talking about us? Man
made an hour image after looking like us? Here, now
he's like us? Who's us? Who's our? Well, it's l
lhem the gods. So consequently, what we're talking about here
is that the gods created us, created the heavens and

(05:19):
the earth and all things on it now more important
to my And this is the whole subject. Of course,
you could take this, you know, in many different directions.
But interesting in Genesis one two says and the earth
was without form and void. That's another mistranslation, and the

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original it does not say that the earth was without
form and void. Actually it says and the earth became
a waste and a desolation, not form and void, but
waste and desolation. And it was not as I said.

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The scripture if you read it today in the Bible,
Genesis one two says and the earth was without form
and void. No, the earth became a waste and a desolation. Consequently,
if you go to Genesis nine, which is Genesis nine one,

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where God is talking to Noah after the flood of
Noah's day, and God says to Noah, now understanding that
according to the story, everyone has been wiped off the
earth in the great flood, and so God says to
Noah and his sons, his three sons, go forth into
the world now and multiply and replenish the earth. And

(06:53):
you asked the question, wait a minute, The word is
re r replenish the earth, meaning not plenish, replenish meaning
do it again.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Why.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Well, simply because before Noah there was a whole civilization.
God brings a flood. According to the story, God brings
a flood destroys the world and all life on it.
And now God is saying to Noah and his sons
and their wives, go now on the earth and reproduce
and fill the earth and replenish the earth. Well, that

(07:28):
is a correct translation. From the Hebrew. And I've talked
to rabbis about that, and the word is replenish r
e means do it again. Okay, it makes sense that
God would be telling Noah to redo it again. However,
if you go back to Genesis one twenty eight, where

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God is creating the first chapter of the Bible, where
God is creating man and man and woman, Adam and Eve,
he says to Adam and Eve, multiply and replenish the earth.
Do it again, replenish the earth, implying, of course, do

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it again.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
What are you talking about doing again?

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Well, if you just read Genesis one two correctly, it's
said and the earth was without form and void. No,
the earth became a waste and a desolation. So the
rabbis will tell you, and the rabbitical reference works will
tell you that what is being said in Genesis one

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two and in one twenty eight, when man, man and
women are being created, is that God is recreating all
over again. And so consequently, the Bible, the Old Testament,
is a story for this dispensation. This time the world
is being recreated. Now, what happened a million years ago,

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ten thousand or one hundred thousand years ago. That's none
of your business. For you right now, this is what
you need to understand. And the bottom line is is
that we are not the first creatures on the earth,
the first time man's been on the earth.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
We now know that man has been on.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
The earth probably millions and millions of years, and that
for us to think that mankind was created six thousand
and seven, ten thousand years ago is ludicrous because we
know better than that. And so consequently, that's what the
Bible is saying. God is saying, replenished year to Adam

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and Eve, do it again.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Who is God? Well, the scripture says, and this is.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
A very difficult word to deal with God, God, because
you know, that's a lot of baggage. What are you
talking about when you're talking about God? Well, God is
dog spelled backwards. As I said, this is why churches
have dogma in their teachings because it goes back to Anibus,
Annibus the dog star Anibus the dog, the God of Uh.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
And the ancient Egyptian religion.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
But when you look at the word and now I
get back to what I was going to say to
start with that in Genesis one two, where it incorrectly
says in the and the and the earth was without
form and void. No, the earth became a waste in
a desolation. The two Hebrew words that are being translated

(10:26):
there is tohu and voe who uh. Pronunciation it would
be t o e hyphen w h o tohu. That's
not the way it's spelled in Hebrew, but that's the
way it's pronounced. T o e w h o tohu voe.
Who would be v o e w h o tohu

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voe who waste desolation. There's only two places in the
Bible where tohuvo who is used, and it's in those
two places they're always used together. There's only two places
to start with. One is in Jeremiah, and one is
in Genesis one two and in the scripture. In Jeremiah,

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Jeremiah says, I saw the earth in a vision, and
the earth was tohuvoho, meaning the earth became and my
eyes I saw the earth and it became a waste
and a desolation. Well, when did that happen? Well, according
to the Jeremiah prophecy, it happened many many, many thousands

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of years before. And the prophet Isaiah said God gave
him a vision, and in the vision he saw the earth,
and Tohuvoho, which is the earth, became in his eyes.
It was beautiful. It was, and the scripture says that
Jeremiah says, and the earth was beautiful. Its animals, its birds,

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as civilizations were absolutely beautiful to see. And then tohuvo
who it became a waste in a desolation, meaning that
the earth probably was a very beautiful place thousands and
thousands of years ago, maybe one hundred thousand years ago,

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and Jeremiah was given the opportunity to see the way
the earth was thirty forty fifty thousand years ago, with animals.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
And a whole different, beautiful world.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
And then something happened, some kind of a major catastrophe.
Tohuvohu it became a waste in a desolation. Now, when
you go back to Genesis one two, Tohuvohu is always
understood to be a situation that the Earth goes through

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when it changes from what the ancients called one dispensation
to another dispensation or one period of time in God's history,
not our history, but in the history of the universal
God force the way it keeps time, and of course
it's you know, at the one day is a thousand years,

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Well that's probably more than that. Theoretically, using the term God,
how does God keep time? Well, my Lord, you know,
God's forever forever, So I mean how long would that be?
So in the universal God force concept of time, millions
of years are nothing. So consequently, what is being said

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there is that tohu vohu implies a total destruction on
a cosmic level between dispensations of creation between God, which
has translated to tohuvohu, some terrible catastrophe happened on the

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earth in which the gods were angry.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
And the whole thing was just leveled.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Well, maybe it wasn't the gods who did it, But
point being is that the Bible is saying that the
gods al Lohium became angry at the creation, and Jeremiah
was allowed to see tohuvo who a total destruction all
over the earth, a major catastrophe. And that is precisely

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as I said the words, and the concept is used
for the dispensation of one creative period going to another
creative period, so when everything is collapsed and destroyed. Now, theoretically,
according to the Bible, God says, come, let us do
it again. All right, let's start all over again, and

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let's create a man and a woman. And Rabbi Marvin S.
Aleman some thirty five years ago Marvin Andleman A N
T E.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
L M A N N.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Marvin Aleman of Newton, Massachusetts, was thirty five years ago
president of the American Rebuild Association, and he and I
were very close friends for many years. I used to
chide him all the time about his understandings of the Bible.
But Rabbi Gentleman, president of the American Rabbitical Association, said

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to me, I asked him about that scripture where God said,
come let us make man in our image out to
our likeness. And I said to Rabbi, what are you
talking about? Come let us who's us? God got to
get permission from somebody here that's working with him or what?
And he says, no, it's a misunderstanding on how the

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sentence is understood by Gentiles and Jews. Jews also misunderstand.
They don't know any more than the gentiles do. There
is a correct way to read that sentence, and the
correct the normal way people think that the scripture is saying.
When it says God said, come let us make man
in our image out to our likeness, most people think

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that that's God is saying, Come, let us we ate
a creature. Let us make a new creation, a creature,
and we will call him.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Maybe we'll call him man.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
So come let us make a creature and we will
call him man and woman man with a womman. And
that's what most people understand that scripture. To me, that's
not what it says at all. Rabbi, entleman says, nowhere
in the Bible does this say God created man. Doesn't
say that. Go back and read it correctly. What is

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said is that God said, or el lohem, the gods said,
come let us make man and our image after our likeness.
The correct way to understand that is the gods were saying,
come let us make man in our image after our likeness,

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not make man. Man's already here. Come let us remake man.
Do it again, let us make man according to our
image and our likeness. And so the ancient the ancient
Jews and the Hebrews, and all the ancient civilizations that
are starting all the way back to Sumeria understood what

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was being said. It's just that we don't understand because
we all we get is our news from ABC. We
wouldn't know anything about what's going on. But if you
go back to the ancient works, you will find that
the ancient people, the Sumerians, Babylonians, Phoenician, Canaanites, Egyptians, the
ancient Greeks and Romans, all of them understood that we

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are the creation of another of another entities. We are
the creation of the gods. And according to Zachariah Sitchen,
and he's not the only one, he's just one that
I know personally. But according to the work of Zachariah Sichen,
the Sumerians are saying that extraterrestrials came here from a

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planet called Nebaru, and Nebaru is according to the Sumerians,
they said that Neberu is a planet about twice the
size of the Earth, and that comes and it is
part of our solar system. But it has a huge
elliptical orbit. It's not a round orbit, it's elliptical orbit

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oblong and consequently, according to the Sumerians, and now we're
beginning to scientifically find out that he was right. The
Sumerians are right. The US Navy has even commented on
now that there seems to be more than one other
planet connected to our solar system with elliptical orbits. Well,
that's what the Sumerians were saying. And consequently, this elliptical

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orbit is every thirty six hundred years, it comes back
into our vicinity and passes through our solar system, then
goes back out again. And according to the way the
Solar system turns in the galaxy, and this thing comes
back every thirty six hundred comes back and then goes
back out. And consequently, every thirty six hundred years, mankind

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seems to make massive movements on the Earth, new things,
new technology, All of a sudden, things just start happening. Why,
I believe that there's at least enough evidence to show
that there might be something to this story that the
Sumerians and the Egyptians and all these great civilizations.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Not us.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
We have no idea what's going on right here in
our own city. But the ancient peoples knew and said
that the gods told them that every thirty six hundred
years they come back through. When they come back through,
why travel a long distance when they can just wait
the planet's going to be in the close vicinity, and
when it is, it'll be here for a few months.

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So they will drop off and see how everything is
and give you some new up up, some new concepts
and new ideas, depending on how smart you are. If
you're still as dumb as the last time they were here,
you know why bother. But if you've progressed a little bit,
they will give you a little bit more to work on.
Then they get on the planet and leave, and another

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thirty six hundred years goes by and mankind progresses again.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
So all of this makes.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Some kind of a legitimate sense if you are able
to look at science, philosophy, religion, biblical history and be
able to balance it all out. There is a lot
of There is a monaricum of truth in all of this,
because scientifically things are being proven now that the Sumerians

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were saying many thousands of years ago. So the point
being is that God said, come let us make man.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
In our image after our likeness.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
Interesting in relation to that, and again I go back
and reiterate the Rabbi Atumin said, the correct way to
say that, or to read that scripture is that the
gods said, come let us make man in our image,
not make man, but let's make him in our image
after our likeness.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Well, that's that's interesting.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
You mean we were already here, but for being so great,
we weren't that great. Yeah, we were hominids, we were
Neanderthal man, we were Chromagnum man, we were whatever these
creatures were that were digging up all over the world.
And the south of France, we're finding neanderthal who stand upright,
Homo sapien. But they were just a little different from us.

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But they had certain qualities that showed that they had
some intelligence about how to do things. And then all
of a sudden, out of nowhere, from the Neanderthal period
we pop in. Our skin and flesh is different than
what the Neanderthals would have been. Our skin is thinner.
We can't take the cold like animals do. At two

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o'clock in the morning on the desert when it's twenty
below zero, animals.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Are out there, they live through it. We couldn't why.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
It's because our bodies are designed differently. Our skin is thinner,
our systems are more balanced and vulnerable. However, our spirituality
and our intellect is far higher. We can appreciate geometry, sciences, occultism,

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beautiful music, lasers. I mean, you know, our intellectual and
spiritual capacity is phenomenal, but our bodies are very vulnerable.
So what happened in our natural evolution of things when
one time you have the Neanderthals or whatever, these horminid

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creatures and that's the word that science use, hominids, these creatures,
and all of a sudden we appear, well, it makes
sense to me that perhaps there is something too. What
the Sumerian said that the gods who came through on
Niburu or whatever the planet was, or whatever the story is,

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the bottom line is that the gods said, come, let
us make man in our image after our likeness, meaning
they must have cross breeded their DNA with our DNA whichever,
the normal horminid creatures that we're here, take one of
the females, impregnate the female with the with the genetics

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of the gods, and the outcome would have been us.
We are still animalistic. I mean, at best, we're still animalistic.
We're still going around killing people and shooting people. And
anybody doesn't look like us or happened to be our color,
we hate them and we shoot them. We shoot our

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own families. You know, we shoot presidents, we should everybody.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Why.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
It's because we are actually a Neanderthal, ancient, a hominid creature,
and we have appetites for violence and excitement and killing
and all that kind of thing. However, we also as
among us those who are profoundly brilliant and spiritually in tune,

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who give us the great composers, the great poets, the
greatness that mankind is capable of. So you have the balance,
the animalistic human plus the divinely inspired, so we can
you know, we're balanced.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
The bottom line on this.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Is that we are created by the gods. Now, go
back to Genesis eighteen. And in Genesis eighteen there's a
story there about Abraham, and Abraham is standing in his
tent talking to his wife. The scriptures go read it
in the Bible and Jenis is eighteen and it says

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in Abraham is standing in his tent, and three men
come walking up toward him, and he went out to
meet them. And they talked with the men, and they
said that they were on their way to some business
they had elsewhere, and they were just passing through. And
it says Abraham invited them to stay and have dinner
at least, because this was a custom in the ancient world.

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If you have tourists or people coming through, it doesn't
matter who they are. That was a custom in the
ancient world. You show hospitality by asking them if at
least you can stop, I have something to eat or something,
refresh yourself and then go. And so that was the custom.
You know, we still do that today. You know, friends
drop over, You'll fix them something to eat or something.

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So that was a custom. But it's interesting that in
Genesis eighteen, it says Abraham asked the three men to
stay and have dinner and then go, and they said no,
they were busy. They had something they had to do.
And it said that insisted. So they said, all right,
I'm not gonna argue. We'll have dinner, but make it
quick because we've got something to do. But we'll stay

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for a few minutes. So it said Abraham and Sarah
make something to eat. And after eating, two of the
men got up, thanked Abraham for his hospitality and said,
but they really must go, but the third one stayed
to talk for a little bit. Then later on, and
that's in Genesis eighteen, and the next chapter Genesis nineteen.

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You find out that those two men are now the
two men who are in Sodom and Gamarrah Genesis nineteen,
and it says that when those two men who were
you the day before with Abraham are now in Sodom,
and Gamara said, the homosexuals thought they were good looking,
handsome men. And it said that the homosexuals that night

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came to the house where these two men were staying
with Lot and called them out, and the two men
were able to supernaturally cause the people of the town
to become blind, so that they've started fighting among themselves.
And it says that the two men in the Bible
Genesis nineteen were, in point of fact, actually angels, spirit

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entities who have come in a human form. And it
says in Genesis eighteen that the one that stayed and
talked with Abraham was in fact the Lord God, the
Creator himself, God Almighty, the creator of mankind himself, was
the Lord who sat with Abraham. And I think to myself,

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wait a minute, you mean Abraham actually fixed dinner for God,
for the Creator. And he sat there and had had
dinner and a couple of drinks and chit chatted with
Abraham and talked to his wife, and he was said to.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Be a man. He looked like a man, he acted
like a man.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Take that into consideration with later on in Genesis, when
it says to sons of God and sons of God
does not mean angels. Angels and sons of God are
totally different, totally different subjects. Angels are not sons of God.
But in the later on in Genesis it says sons
of God began to forsake their proper dwelling place and

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start cohappening with women. The sons of God began to
see women that they were beautiful, and fell for the women.
And this is where we get the idea of falling
in love, because they fell from our hair position because
of the women. And so consequently, I cannot picture myself

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seeing a woman being talked into bed by some hideous
creature from another world, but good looking handsome men might
do it. So consequently it makes sense that the sons
of God were good looking handsome men. Even almost sexuals
thought they were good looking handsome men. The point being
is that the angels, the sons of God, the not
the angels, but the sons of God. There were two

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of them that accompanied the almighty God the Creator Yahweh Jehovah.
And what is this all saying? The bottom line, after
everything is said and done, is quite simply this that
we are told that God the Creator had two accompanying
angels with him. He went into Sodom and Gamara. They

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looked like men. They sat down, they had dinner, they
could chit chat with you, and they and two of
them left to go, and they all look like men.
And later on the sons of God, who looked like handsome,
good looking men, they started messing around with women and
had offspring. Well, their plumbing must have worked if they
had offspring through females, so they must have been for

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all practical purposes a man. What is this saying. It's
basically saying this. I believe that there is a modicum
of truth in the story that's in code in the
book of Genesis. I think there is something there very important.
I think that today they're very well could be sons

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of God still here on the earth. We don't know
what their life span is, We don't know how long
sons of God Elohitan are. The Anakis, as the ancient
Sumerians call them, We don't know how long they live.

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We have no idea what we're talking about here. All
we know is the Bible is saying that there are extraterrestrials.
And I have to tell you this, but that's the
word extraterrestrial, because God and the angels or the sons
of God do not come from van eyes. They come
from out there. They come from somewhere out there in
quote heaven end quote. So they're coming from out there,

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and they look like humans, and they can mess with
women and have offspring, they can sit and have dinner
with you, and they look like good and handsome men.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
But they're not from here, and they're not men. They
just look like men.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
That begins to make sense to me that perhaps what
we are seeing today in the Middle East having to
do with the Iraq, which Iraq was originally one hundreds
of years ago called Persia.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Persia was called before that.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Kaldia. Kaldia before that was called Babylon. So what we're
talking about is the king of Babylon. Now it begins
to look like what's going on here is that our
world is being run by very powerful men who cared
nothing whatsoever about human creatures. Do you care and worry

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yourself sick. When you go to Kentucky Fried Chicken and
think about how many innocent families were broken up, how
many chickens had to die, you couldn't care less. They're
just chickens, They're just animals. And so consequently, I think
that the sins of God, the l Loohim on Onnaki,
I don't care what name you give them.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
They are still here.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
I am totally convinced that we are now seeing in
the Middle East with the United States government doing what
it's doing, with the rest of the world preparing for
something tohu though, who I think what we're actually seeing
is a profound, awesome, terrible tribulation coming when the gods

(32:42):
are going to battle like two men fighting over a woman.
The gods are going to battle for the ownership of us.
And consequently, when you understand that Saddam Hussein, it's Persian,
Persia is Chaldean, how Dion is Babylon. And we talked

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in the Bible. The Bible is filled with in the
Book of Genesis and all the way through the Revelation
talks about how the gods of Babylon were to be
cursed and they were evil and that the Good God
was going to destroy Babylon. I think what we're seeing
right now in Israel, America, England, when you begin to

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look at the symbols, the words, the terms, the national
coats of arms, the seals of nations, listen to what
the president is saying, I am totally convinced for my
own self, and I've been looking at this for over
forty years. I'm totally convinced. What's going on right now
is that the President of the United States has no

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control over anything.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
I think that what's going.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
On is there are very powerful, awesome creatures on this
earth that look like men, and they act like men,
and they can eat with you. But they are not
normal human beings. These people are despotically powerful, murderous in

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their intent. They don't care a thing about human life
because they created it. They don't give a damn about nations, races, children,
family values. That's all crap to them. They created this
creature called man. They are in a whole different world
than we are. They don't see the same things. Their

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technology is so far above us, their understanding of human
creation is so far above anything we understand.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
They are as far as we're concerned gods.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
Consequently, I think that what we're seeing now is a
war between the gods. And consequently, tohu vohu, I believe
that it's my opinion that we're going to see in
the next two and a half years, uh, trouble like
we have never seen it before. It's frightening the implications
of what I I just think back on the gods

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and when.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
They're at war, you like, you like war.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
And you like bloodshed, will stick around. Now you're going
to see how the gods do it. You're going to
you know, you look, America loves all these war movies.
Good stick around. You're going to really want to see
this way because the gods are going to show you
what war is really all about. And it hasn't got
a thing to do with sparing the children and only
dropping bombs on military and no, no, the gods they

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don't give a damn about none of it. They're here
to do one thing, and that is control and take
ownership of us, their their creation. Incidentally, if the concept
that I have I have outlined that we creatures, we
humans are actually the offspring of the gods, are some

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kind of a mating action between the extraterrestrials or the
elohim Annaki, the ancient gods, whatever you want to call them.
If there is something to this, if there is any
validity to this concept that extraterrestrials who came from heaven.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Yeah, of course, if they came here.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
And they said, come, let us create man or make
man in our image and our likeness, you've got a
very interesting situation here. You have Neanderthal or horminid creatures.
And we haven't even discussed where the hominid creatures came from.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
We're not even dealing with that yet.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
But you're talking about an extraterrestrial life forms that looked
like us, and they have come here from another world, another,
from another place in time, and they are attempting to
procreate with the genus creatures that are here. And consequently,

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their DNA and their system of their body system from
where the world they have come from is so superior
to ours. And yet they are smart enough to know
how to blend our DNA the creatures, the hamited creatures
with them. Is this how we got today? The Yeties,

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abominable Snowman. The Yeties, what are some of the other
terms that are used for those creatures.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Bigfoot, bigfoot, the yeties, whatever. They are hombined creatures. They
walk on two legs like male. They look like men,
but they are animals. But they are brilliant and intelligence
and can outsmart anybody. They have obviously supernatural powers to

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go in and out of dimensions. There's a lot of
material on that subject. So and too many races of
people around the world, from China to Asia to North
America to all of the ancient cultures talk about the bigfoot,
the yetis, those mysterious creatures.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
That live in the wilds.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
It would not surprise me if those Yetis bigfoot creatures
are the original experiments of the Onaki gods, cohabiting and
cross breeding with the hominid creatures that were here. But
they put too much of something in and not enough

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of the other, and they came out even more vicious
than what they were and even smarter. But they're still animals.
While they screwed up. Okay, now we're going to do
it something better. Because this thing was before it was
just an animal. Now it's a vicious animal and it
has supernatural powers like we do. So and that thing's

(39:05):
already gone. Let's forget it, let's move it on and
do it again. Now, this time we're going to do
it better. And so now they do it again, and
now they got it right. Now they got it balanced,
and got the DNA correct, and got it right and
gave birth to us.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
So I'm saying, if any of this has any validity,
and I'm just putting, I'm just pointing this.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Material out because this is what the Bible says. And
so consequently, if any of us has any validity, it
very well might be.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
As my friend.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
William Henry has been talking about for many years, and
Zacharyer and all the rest of them, I think that
we might be seeing a war being put together right now,
not by men. It's very possible that we in this
country and the world in general, is being led.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
We have talked about.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Illuminati, the secret societies of eternal orders, even among the
Masons of Europe. When you confront the Masons of Europe
and you ask them who actually is at the top
of your organization, at the very top, who are they?
They will tell you that they don't know. That is

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not to be discussed. They don't know who is at
the top, and it's none of your business and you
want to stay alive and just do what you're doing,
then you just take care of your business at this
level and don't worry about who the boss is. And Consequently,
the Masons in Europe refer to their masters as quote,
the hidden chiefs are hidden masters somehow or another, the

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hidden masters behind world events. Today we refer to them
as Illuminati or whatever. I don't think the Builder Burghers
and the Council on Foreign Relations and any of those
organizations are of any importance to me at all. Those
are just the mundane nuts and bolts of how the

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organizations put together to make things work. I'm more interested
as to who are the gods behind world affairs. Who
are the brilliant minds at the top of the pyramid symbolically,
who are the intellectual elites behind world events. I'm totally

(41:34):
sure there's only a handful, a very small, tiny handful,
and I wouldn't be a bit surprised if they were
the Alohim, the Anonaki, the men who look like men
but are not men. Consequently, you know, so many people
have said, how can these people go to war killing

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innocent women and children? You know, like the First and
Second World War, murder and killing. How could men do this?
I don't think men are doing it at all. I
think that there are powerful entities in this world who
look like men, and they give the orders and you
better jump, And I don't care if you call yourself president,

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just don't matter. If you get in their way, they'd
sooner kill you as anybody else. They got an agenda,
and you had better jump when they say. And consequently,
I think that's what we're looking at today, a war
between the gods. It has nothing to do with the
human element. It has to do with a cosmic, cataclysmic

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time in which the gods are battling now for our ownership.
This is what Steven Spielberg and George Lucas have been
telling you. Steven Spielberg and his movie Indiana Jones and
the Last Crusade. You need to go back and get
the movie and watch it. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.
What is the Last Crusade? Well, if you don't understand

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the first two crusades, you're never going to understand.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
The Last Crusade. Do you know what the Crusades were
all about?

Speaker 1 (43:05):
Do you know who started the Crusades and were what
were they crusading about.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Well, it has to do with the ownership of people,
international banking cartels. It has to do with the knights
templars of the ninth and tenth century. So consequently, if
you don't understand what the first two crusades and the
first three crusades, then you're not gonna understand Indiana Jones

(43:32):
and the last Crusade. What is the last Crusade about?
It has Indiana Jones looking for something called the Cup.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
Of Christ or the Holy Grail. The Cup of Christ,
the Holy Grail. There have been many, many stories and
many interpretations of this, but basically it goes back to
one thing. The cup represents the holder of the wine.
The wine is poured into the cup. The cup the

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wine has always represented the blood of mankind. Jesus said,
drank this wine, for this is the blood of the covenant.
So you drink the wine. All of the men around
the table would drink the wine. They are symbolically drinking
the blood of the God, so that they are locked
into a partnership with God. You're drinking the wine, which

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is a ritual. The wine represents the blood and in
the Christian sense it where it represents Jesus' blood that's
being shed for us. So you're drinking the blood, taking
an oath to lock yourselves together in a sacred mission.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
All right.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
But the Holy Grail, the Lost Grail, is a cup
in which you pour the wine. The cup represents the earth,
and the wine represents the blood on the earth. So
the cup represents the earth. The human blood on the
earth is the wine in cup. Consequently, whoever holds the

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cup holds the blood of the human family on the
earth in his hand, which I believe is a symbolism
of the ancient gods who have come here from another world,
and they're saying, who owns this property down here? You know, well,
we created it. You created it, but we own it.

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We're coming in and taking it over. And that's why
Saddam Hussein has said he believes he is the reincarnation
of King Nebukanizer. I got a feeling that there's some
really powerful, strange occultism going on in the Middle East
right now, and we in America and England, the Western

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man is getting ready to get involved and become cannon fodder.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
We're going to become.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
Involved in a war that you have no idea in
the world how big it's going to be. Because this
has nothing to do with generals sitting down and plotting
out some war plant. No, no, no, this is going
to be one hell of a conflict. It's it's going
to be a cosmic conflict between the gods. And even

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today Christians are beginning to realize this is the things
which are talked about in the Bible prophecies. We are
in the time of the end. Yes, we're in the
time of the end of the Age of Pisces and
the coming age. And by twenty twelve we will be
fully into, according to the reference works, will be fully
into what is called the beginning of the Age of Aquarius.

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That is simply dispensations of time one hundred and fifty
years of the age of the Fish. That is why
Christians have the fish on the back of the cars
and the water bearer, which is Aquarius. So what the
Bible is saying is that there is one age that's leaving,
that's a two thousand, one hundred and fifty year period,

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and another one hundred and fifty period is going to begin.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
And who are going to be.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
The gods of the New Age, the gods of the
new order of things, well as like a prize fight,
heavyweight champion, prize fight. We're gonna have to fight this
one out, see who the best man is, you know,
the two guys fighting over the woman.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
So consequently, I think.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
What we're beginning to see and what we're going to
see very soon is an all out cosmic war in
which we're going to also see. I think we're going
to be privy to see supernatural things going on, not
just in this war, not just in war. I think
we're going to see some really strange phenomena being able

(47:43):
to People are going to see it for themselves. Norieo
O Hayakawa, dear friend of mine. I just spoke this
past week at the Japanese Friendship Club in Little Tokyo
for Noreo Buto has been saying for many years. Noriel
is famous for his work with Area fifty one, but

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nore Ohio Coawa has said so often that he believes
that the United States government and probably the world government
behind it, is planning on having some kind.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
Of a UFO.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Extravaganza that they're going to do themselves. It's going to
be a show, and it's going to be the aliens
landing here from another world, and they're going to cause
this and that to happen, and therefore all the nations
are going to have to get together to fight this
alien race that's here.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
And the whole thing is a show to fool everyone
into joining a new world order collectively.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
And the whole thing will be a trick, and the
trick is going to be so well done the most
ardent skeptic is going to believe it, because it's really
going to be a hot show. But nonetheless, as Noriel says,
the whole thing is a put up job. Well, I
said to Norio one night at a dinner after one
of the lectures we were doing together at the table

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and a bunch of the speakers were there was and
I said to Norieo, Noriel, I can take the same
facts that you enumerated tonight that back up your theory.
I can take the same exact facts and come up
with a different theory that fits it equally as well.
And I would say, it's just my opinion, but I

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can take the same facts you've come up with. You
said that they were here, that they were doing this,
and that and that they're going to land and make
it look like I wonder if it isn't going to
be an actual, in fact invasion of extraterrestrials invading US.
I would not be a bit surprised if the US
government knows that it's going to happen.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
They've already been told.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
That these gods are going to do battle with other
gods who are coming here for the ownership of the earth,
and that you are and and the governments of the
world of this earth are being told either you're with
us or you with them, and you had better be
with us, because we're already here and they're coming and
they are our enemies. And so it's a war between

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the gods for the ownership of the earth. And consequently,
if that be the case, you better sue for peace
with one of the two.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
And logic would tell you that.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
If one of them is already here, that's the one
you better sue for peace with. And so I said
to Noreo, it may very well be that it's not
going to be a staged event. I think maybe they're
actually going to be an extraterrestrial intervention into our and
to our civilization, and we might be seeing things from

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another world that are legitimately real. So I and these
are all the things which were prophesied in the Bible.
They're prophesied in the ancient Hopie prophecies, in the Mayans,
the inc all of the ancient peoples have prophesied that
the gods would come back. They're coming back. Well, what

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are you talking about coming back? Every thirty six hundred years,
Neberu comes through. A planet comes through, in which we
are told by the Sumerians those people from Neburu who
have come from another planet in another world looked like us,
and they created or recreated us, and they're coming back,

(51:28):
and they're not very happy with us, and they're not
very happy with the alien life forms who are here
who have been manipulating us and using us. It's like
one gang coming in and finding out another gang is
set up shop here, and they say, hey, wait a minute.
You know, just because we went down to the store,
that don't mean you come in here and take over. Well,

(51:49):
we're already here. What are you going to do about it? Well,
we'll show you what we're going to do about it.
And now all of a sudden, the people in the neighborhood.
They better get out of here because there's going to
be a war. And it's not because they're trying to
protect you. It's ownership. Somebody came here and created us,
and they're coming back and they're going to find out
others are here and they're taking over our planet. So

(52:10):
I'm saying that there's a very good chance that there
is a whole another story in the Bible are encoded,
And from my talking with rabbis and looking at the subject,
I think there is something legitimate.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
About all of this.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
I do not discard the Bible, both all the New Testament.
I think there's a very interesting and important material in there.
I just don't think we fully understudy yet. It is
a lot of encoded stuff. Again, tohu voh, who means
cosmic destruction on a cosmic level. And if we, in fact,

(52:50):
if if we in fact begin to see two opposing
forces of God, alien life forms from other world that
have we all know, technology we don't even understand, and
if they begin an all out war between themselves on

(53:14):
this earth, we are going to see some extraordinary destruction,
some very very powerful and fearful things. And this is
what the Scripture says. It says in Isaiah that men
are going to beg God to die and from the
mountains crawling over them, They're going to wish that they
were dead, and that people are going to be having

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and Jeremiah says men will be having heart attacks about
thinking about what's coming. They can already see it coming.
The implications, I think Tohu and Vohu cosmic destruction on
a cosmic level is about to begin. I think that's
exactly what's now on the way. This is why the

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powers that be in America are so dead strong and
so locked inn on what they're going to do, is
because they have no alternative. The people who are actually
running this government from behind the scenes we call it
the world government or the Illuminati or the secret societies. No,
I think that people who are running this thing from

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behind the scenes are not even human. And what they
got planned according to their own agenda for ownership of.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
Us is going to be one hell of a war.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
And at this point I would conclude by saying, I
believe the only hope that we have as individual humans,
I am totally convinced because of too much has proven
this to me that over and above this scenario, if
it has any validity at all. Over and above this scenario,

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bad as it is, there is above the scenario a
higher power in the universe that men have called, for
a lack of a better term, God. There are many
terms that can be used for God, the divine presence
in the universe, the Holy Spirit. I don't care what
you call it, because all nations are races, and peoples

(55:17):
on the earth have acknowledged the presence of quote it end, quote,
whatever it is. But it's there if you choose to
call it God or the divine. Incidentally, the word divine
comes from the idea that the grapes the red wine
represents the blood, and the blood represents life, and it

(55:38):
came from the vine, and so that's why it's the
blood comes from the divine, the vine. But I don't
care if you call God, the Divine One, the Holy Spirit,
the Great Father. It doesn't matter what you call that
presence in the universe. There is no doubt in my
mind whatsoever that there is a high power in the

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universe that watches these squirm inches between races in its
great creation. And I would suggest that all of us
the way to protect yourself is the way the Scripture
is said to do it, in the way that the
New Testament admonages to do it, and that is to verbally,

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verbally by yourself, when no one is around, audibly talk
to the spirit as if the spirit were a very
highly intelligent, powerful man or woman that you were talking to.
If you were talking to a very powerful dignitary, you
would not jumble your words. You were very very specific

(56:45):
and what you want to say, have the highest of
respect for that one that you're speaking before. And once
you have said your peace before the king and before
that high official, then drop it.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
That's it. You've said your peace. He has heard it.
It's over.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
Now he will do whatever he decides to do in
your behalf.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
But it's over. You don't need to explain anything more
or whine about it.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
And so I think that this is the most powerful
thing that an individual can do is talk to the creator,
the divine spirit in the universe. Ask for direction. Ask
what am I supposed to know? What am I supposed
to do? How can I protect myself and my loved ones?

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Show me what I am to know, Show me what
I am to do, and I will listen. I will
do whatever it is, no matter how wrong I am.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
I will listen.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
You show me what you need to understand that once
you do that, Jesus the scripture has Jesus saying you
have not because you ask not. It is a normal
thing in human communications. If you ask someone for something,
they now have the option to grant the wish or

(57:59):
not grant to wish. Well, if you go before a
very powerful king or a very powerful man and ask
him for something, don't make a nuisance out of yourself.
You've asked, You've asked, and he has heard, and he'll decide.
Maybe he decides no, But whatever the decision is, that's
it anyway. So consequently, I believe that the smart thing

(58:23):
if you're concerned about your spirituality and your life is
to quietly talk to God or talk to the universe
of God force, because believe me, it's there and it
hears you, and ask what.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
Am I to do? What am I to know?

Speaker 1 (58:36):
Show me where I'm wrong, tell me what I have
to do, and I'm going to do it. Then leave
it alone and watch the way the spirit works. Things
will begin to happen around you, and all of a sudden,
you know, things will begin to pop up in front
of you. You'll be asking a question and it will
come on television. You'll open up a magazine and there

(58:59):
it is the answer right in front of you. And
you think that's my chance. No, you ask God for direction,
didn't you. So the scripture says God works in strange
ways his wonders to accomplish. So I'm saying that we
are in a very perilous time. Tohu vohu. Cosmic things

(59:20):
are going to happen. But I believe that there is
a higher force in the universe. Talk to that spirit
and it will protect you and guide you, because all
wise men have always said that, and it's true.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
And I want to thank you for your time.

Speaker 3 (59:58):
Thank you Jordan.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
By the way, I hope you guys liked it was
a good.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
It was it good? Guys liked it good?

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
I'm glad, Thank you, Jordan.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
We just made a bunch of tapes for Kathleen Keating
and the Father, so we'll play one of them for you.
Which one would you like to hear? Keating? Okay, on
go grab two sets.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
We'll plam while Wendy is away on business. I'll entertain

(01:00:52):
some questions if you have any and not necessarily do
I have the answers.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
If you have any questions.

Speaker 4 (01:01:01):
First of all, thank you, Jordan. Now this spirit you're
talking about that we speak to, there was a great
religious leader in this century named Mozendar Mosendar, and he
communicated with this spirit and it was any way he did.

(01:01:23):
It was he talked to the spirit and he'd answer
for the spirit, and this went on for months, and
all of a sudden his voice came out of nowhere
and he started to communicate it with this spirit like
you were talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Anyway. Thank you again.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Yeah, that's I've had too many examples of that happening
in my own life. So I know that when you speak,
there's scientific evidence for the idea that whatever you say
lasts forever. The vibration is in the air and it's

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there forever. There are scientists and physicists today who I've
talked with of in Portland who were saying that there
is at least the concept. I don't know if they've
done it yet, but the concept is there being able
to pull out of the air the vibrations of the

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things which Ferroh said, which all the ancient peoples of
the world said, it's all still here. It's in the
Acashic record, so to speak. It's all still here and
can be recorded and can be tapped into if you
have the right instruments to tap into. That very high
esoteric science of things which were said thousands of years.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
Ago are still in the air.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
And so I wouldn't be a bit surprised that there
is some technology yet to come that can do that.
I know because of my own personal experiences of being
able to talk to the spirit and later on having
magnificently strange stuff happened.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
That just blows my mind.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
I mean, things which are actually fear inspiring and the
implications of what happened. I ask for something, and when
it happened, it happened in such a profound way that
it was kind of scary to me. And then I thought,
the Spirit is saying, hey, you asked, didn't you You

(01:03:36):
have not for you asked?

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
Not? You ask And I answered.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
You that just because your turn white and was frightened
to death at the implications of it. That's the way
God is. I mean, it's a very.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
Powerful force at work right now, very interesting stuff going on.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
So while I'm very displeased and very disheartened at seeing
what's going on. I know that there's one higher than
a high one who looks on and what goes around
comes around. And millions, millions of people died before, millions
will still die. But there's a higher dimension to reality.

(01:04:13):
Even in Hollywood they call it a matrix.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
There is a higher.

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
Dimension to the reality on the earth. Something else is
going on here on a higher level.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
And I'm saying that you need to get in.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
Touch with your God, who who is the actual spirit
in the universe, because it's it's intelligent and he hears
you anyone else.

Speaker 5 (01:04:34):
Yeah, yeah, Jordan, that concept when you're talking about I
believe and you've I'm sure you've read William Blake because
he took the stories of the Bible and he called
it our imagination that lives within us is actually God,
I think, And it's very very right along with what
you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
In the Book of Psalms and in the New Testament
has Jesus saying, have in the book and the New Testament,
there's a scripture where it has Jesus saying to the
Pharisees and Sadducees, does not your scriptures say that ye
are gods. And if you go back to Psalms, that's

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what it says. It gives you in the Bible reference
works where that comes from. In the Old Testament, there
is a scripture in Psalms it says that we are
gods in that the progenitive life force in us has
come from another place.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
In the universe.

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
Wherefore we are the offspring of the Elohim.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
We're the offspring of the gods.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
So we are, in point of God, in point of fact,
in a matter of speaking, the offspring of gods. And
that being the case, that's why Jesus has Jesus saying
to the Hebrews or to the Jews of his day,
does not your scriptures say that your gods that we
are gods. So I'm just saying that when you understand
how these words work and what these terms mean, all

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of a sudden, you got a whole different story than
what you thought was the Bible was saying. It's saying
something totally different than what you thought.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
Yes, this planet you're talking about, that is that planet X.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
Yeah, I think from my limited understanding of planet X.
I asked Zachariah Sitchen about that planet X and if
it was Neiboru. I had him on my show, on
my radio show, and I said to him, and I
made the mistake because I know Zacharia and I should
have known better. But I said to him, Zacharia, so

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and so this other gentleman, and I give his name
as written a book about planet X and can you
tell me anything about that? And Zachariah said to me,
I don't talk about other people's work. You wanted me
to be a guest on your show. You talk about
Zacharia Sitchen, We're not talking about somebody else.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
Oh well, thank you a publishing.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
But I've talked to him in private, and he he
was noncommittal, but he thought it was interesting that this
is a planet which is legitimately there is coming from
what I guess from the southern Hemisphere, coming from from
the deep South Hemisphere, from like over Antarctica, coming this way.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
So it's not coming from somewhere we can see it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
But if you're down in Peru or in the mountains,
you can see it coming from the south.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
So's they've already picked taken taken pictures of it. Uh,
so they know it's it's it's legitimate. Yes, it's it's
it is coming this way.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
Yes, it is.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
Seems to be about twice the size of the Earth. Yeah,
they're referring to it as Planet X. Incidentally, are you
aware that Russia has a huge project talking about Planet X.
All over Russia there are sign bold I've seen pictures,
said to me, huge billboards with the planet showing it

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coming toward and it says in Russian that it's almost here.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
Get ready.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
The Russians are the big signboards showing the Earth, the
Sun out in the back and this huge planet coming
and it kind of got a stream like it's moving,
and then Russian it's saying it's coming, get ready. So
all over Russia they're talking about a planet that's coming
into our vicinity. And what you have to appreciate too,

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is that the planet, if it's twice the size of
the Earth and comes into our solar system the David Talbot.
I can talk for hours on this subject of the
work of David Talbot. The solar system as we know
it today is not the same configuration of the Solar

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system that may have existed ten thousand years ago. In
other words, Saturn today is just a bright little star.
Jupiter is a little bit brighter. Well, it's not a star,
it's a planet, but it looks like a bright star.
But according to the ancient peoples, they said that the
configuration of our Solar system was totally different. Ten thousand

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to twelve twenty thousand years maybe twenty five thousand years ago,
was totally different. Saturn was much closer, Mars was much closer,
different planets were further away. It was a different configuration.
So at night you would walk out and see this huge,
enormous planet would rings around it. That's how close Saturn

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was to us. And if you'd take us a round
circle around Saturn and turn it just at a right angle,
it looks like an eye, the eye inside the circle,
but the circle is now oblong because you turn the angle,
and now it looks like an eye looking at you.
Mars were told, according to the theory that is now

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being worked out, that Mars could very well have come
through and caused some kind of an electrical frequency going
between us and Saturn. You've seen the pictures of Mars
where it has those jagged cuts in Mars. It looks
like deep canyons on Mars that very heavily cut, and

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they look like electrical shock waves going out from it.
Many people have thought that that was like water rivers
and whatever. No, no, not at all. They now know
for a certainty what those jagged like our What is
it out here in Arizona Grand Canyon. They're huge, enormous

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canyons which go for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of
miles on Mars, far far.

Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
Deeper, far far bigger.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
And they say, well, were those were great canyons of
water at one time?

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
No, we now know what they are.

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
They has been replicated and on the scientific experiment, and
they now know that those cuts on Mars were electrical
discharges from Mars to another planet. It's like out here
on these power upoles. If you get two of those
powerpoles lines too close together, they have to be a

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certain amount apart. If you get them too close together,
the electricity, the static electricity coming through on the outside
will arc. They'll they'll jump. When it does, you've got problems.
If you get two powerful lines, i mean really very
powerful lines, they get them too close, they'll jump, and

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boy when they do, now you've got an explosion.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
We now know that the Earth as it rotates.

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
As the Earth rotates, it generates electrics because it's rotating
inside of its own atmosphere, which is causing friction, which
gives us our electrical storms tornadoes. It's because the Earth
is rotating like a generator generating electricity, and the electricity
is grounded, it goes back into the ground, which goes

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down and heats up the lava, keeping it hot and bubbling.
And so consequently, if another planet comes close to us,
the electrical frequency, our electrical, biological and electrical frequency on
this Earth would jump and hit the other planet. And
so they're now able to see that that's what happened

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to Mars. Mars must have moved too close to another
planet thousands of years ago, and it jumped. The spark
jumped off of Mars and shot across it hit another planet.
And that's why there are all this and that whole
orbit that Mars is in, are many many asteroids and

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many many meteors or whatever. It's because there was an
electrical discharge that you wouldn't believe coming off of the
surface of Mars that jumped out and hit another planet
because it came too close.

Speaker 4 (01:13:19):
Well, they always called the fiery planet.

Speaker 5 (01:13:21):
Yes, one other thing, do you have a favorite version
of the Bible to read.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
Yes, I certainly do. It's called it's called.

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
It's my favorite one because it's got all kinds of
interesting great footnotes that nobody will touch.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
Nobody else has it, and it's it's called the Companion Bible.

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
It's the it's the King James Bible, but it's called
the Companion Bible. And it's put out by Kregel k R. E. G. E. L.
Kregel Company Companion Bible. And if you call me at
my office, I'll give you the ISBN number and the
address of where to get it from. And there are

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places around town you can get it. Over in Pasadena
has a whole set of Kreagle's Bibles. That one is sensational.
They've got all kinds of interesting stuff in who the
Hebrew or the Hebrew language was actually Poenician Canaanite. Gives
you all the reference works. It tells you in their

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reference works that the entire New Testament is astro theology
based on astrology, and it gives you all of the
reference works and all the volumes to research. Just gives
you numerology, Egyptology, tells you the real truth about where
things come from the Ark of the Covenant was borrowed

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from the Egyptian It's an Egyptian story. The Ten Commandments
it says, and the reference work in that Bible was
taken from the Egyptian concept of the twelve negative Confessions.
As I said, that Bible is called the Companion Bible
is cram filled with interesting stuff and quote that most

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people have never even heard. I say, hey, this is
a reference work Bible. It's just telling you things that
nobody else will tell you. So that's the one I
would get, the Companion Bible. But give me a call
at my office and then I'll give you the actual
ISBN number, so you get the exact one. Because King
J's Bible it's eight point eight. Anybody can call me

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twenty four hours a day eight one, eight, seven, five,
three oh two nine.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
Come over and visit me if you want to. I
don't care.

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
I always try and make myself available and accessible to everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
I'm just a.

Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
I'm not the world's foremost authority on anything.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
I don't have to be.

Speaker 1 (01:15:54):
I'm just an ordinary man pursuing extraordinary knowledge. I'm fascinated
with world of the occult and how much we don't know,
and I've spent forty three years of my life looking
at stuff that most people don't even know it exists. Yes, yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
Sits book The Lost Realms. He was looking at where
the Earth stood still for twenty four hours so Joshua
could slaughter the Philistines. Oh yeah, so he thought that, well,
if it was twenty four hours of light on one
side of the planet, theoretically there should have been twenty
four hours of darkness on the other Lankowski. Yeah, well,
so what he did was Chitchen checked with the Mayan

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codexes in South America. He found at the same period
of time that Joshua was supposed to have lived, roughly
thirty six hundred years ago, where they had their twenty
four hours of daylight in South America, the sun didn't
come up for twenty four hours it was dark. So
he realized that evidently, when Naburu comes by, the gravity
is so great it literally stops our planet from rotating

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for about twenty four hours as it moves on through that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
That's trippy stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:17:03):
Also, when you mentioned that Bible, the Strongs concordance works
real well with.

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
Oh yes, oh yeah, Strong's Bible Concordance. I've got three
copies of that thing.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
I like it so much away.

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
I bought three copies, and I open all three copies,
and I'll read all three at one time, because I
want to leave that one there while I open another one,
and that one opens this one I got opened that one.
It's Strong's Bible Concordance. But get the large print, not
the small print, because the small print is so microscopic,
and a you know, go blind. Large print beautiful. Get

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the Strong's Bible Concordance, and every single word in the Bible,
it tells you exactly what it means, where it came from.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
It's a whole reference