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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Welcome back everyone in the Conversation's Live. I'm your host
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Are glad that you all can be with us alsocially
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on Amazon Music. Be glad you all could be with
us as well. You know you all have heard the
saying there's no place like home, and our next guest
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definitely feels that way when it comes to Yazoo City
and Yazoo County, Mississippi. We're excited to welcome Clifton Davis
to our broadcast today. We're gonna talk to mister Davis
not only about his love of Yezu City, but also
some of those who have inspired him along the way
and set an example for him and now how he's
able to do the same thing as well. Let you
guys know what is it about Yesuo City that has
kept him there all those years. If you guys are
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not connected with mister Davis on Facebook, but we'll remind
you he can be able to do that. But mister Davis,
thank you so much for the time. Really appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Thank you too, sir.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Look glad that we got a chance to connect us.
So definite want to thank mister Joseph Thomas Senior for
connecting us together. I want to begin with kind of
talking about where we are right now, mister Davis. Here
we are, you know, going into the end of another year.
What has it been like for you to reflect on
your life there in Yesus City and all the things
you've seen. When it comes to the progress that has
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made there, well.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
First of all, we will we have the city that
came a long way sometime I was a little boy,
were of course, you know, to the Jim Crow years
and back to integration and and well we'll made great progreds.
We got people that a Yazoo City have gone our
way to the State Center too, and people that gone
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different professional levels of life lawyers, and some of them
even doctor. And yeah, to see that is just a
place that you want to make it, to be what
you want to be and do what you want to do.
And I've always been a dreamer. I always liked to
reach for the sky. No Proverbs say in the Book
of Proverbs twenty and thirteen verses said wives men hanged
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with wise men, And that's what I always have tried
to do, hanging with people wise. I came up and
yet to see a young man and an old man
for around. And that's how I made it as far
as I made it in life.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Have you always believed, mister Davis, that it was possible?
I know when I was growing up in Brandon, Mississippi,
right esesthera Jackson, My grandmother used to tell me that
I could be anything that I wanted to be, and
I used to think about the things that she had
seen and not seen. Have you had you always believed
that if you worked hard, than anything was possible.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Yes, I'm a firm believer. You work hard and strive
to profess and you will get it. You might not
get it when you want, it might not come on time,
but you will get if you work hard and keep
drives on the prize. They focused.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yeah, and that focus has helped you a lot. So
if you had to kind of look back at your life,
I think we all have examples that we kind of
look at and we say that thanks to this person,
you know, I was made to feel better about myself,
or this person believed in me and help me. Who
were some of those people in your life when you
kind of reflected back, they really set the example for you.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Well, the church memoirs and all the people in my community,
they were They're the one that inspired me to go farther,
you know. And my mom and my aunt. Now most
of them couldn't read or write, but they had some
mother with them, you know, and they would sit down
and talk to it, you know. And right today I
wish I could tell them what people what they told
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me and inspired me, we came through you know.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Well, well, I know they would appreciate that as well.
And along the way, you've been able to do things yourself.
When you kind of look at your own achievements, that's
smister Davis. What are some of the things that you're
the most proud of.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Well, first, I'm proud of coming back to Edswell City
and being a big politician and achieved some of the
things that I wanted to do. I went to college,
got thegre In Cuimin of Jester, came home from college.
I was a youth counselor and after that I was
an out of each counselor for the whole Yezoo County.
Used to go all over the county. I seeing the
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patient a by their medication, and men and men and
white girls. The commute to yell all the time, and
that was great. I've been a bail barm So I've
done a lot of things in life. I've been a
building inspect I've been an investigator. I went to three
or four we have, but I the most the thing
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that I of all the jobs I had in years
the city when I became assistant building inspected for the
city of years to do it was a very adventure job.
Most people say I couldn't do it. I went to
pool to the Yegal city and the people to hed
the city. That makes them out a lot. I could
do it if they had to hide him to be
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assistant building inspected. He didn't even know how to pull
no deeds, to go behind the court house and pull
the pack rapid and my supervisor, which was a caccasion,
he tried to keep it from me. He tried to
hold me down. But one day I caught him sleep it.
He had to go do a electrical inspecting man and
the lawyer V and the other lawyer would in the
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back of the court when we were pulling deed, and
they showed me how to do it and instruct me
how to do it, and I became so good. I
started helping them and I and I really enjoyed it.
I enjoyed me and the people helping the people. I
would help people, they would let me help them. And
I didn't get my job to look old nobody because
I had I wore the same uniforms of the fire
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cheese wall. But if I had two bads, I had
a building inspector bads, and I had a side of
wasting for him. The bad It was a textis range badge.
I could write people's up or put them in jail
for going throwing garbage on the street or any domster.
But I never had to rest nobody. I would call
the chaff, but I never had to do that. I
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was already warned people and I believe we're giving people
of verb warning and except first ill I didn't forget
that I lived here with these people. I didn't put
no chip on my shoulder thought I warned everybody. And
then I had during that time, I had what you
call a dream team, and we put all the politicians.
Anything I ain't want to be elected, they would have
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had to come to us. They would have to go
to press some store on Briyard. Here they have a
campaign headquarters. And I would get up and give them
anybody come. They would come up that they wanted to
see me. They wanted to see that Clifton Day the
mag and bring people out to the polls. I would
bring three and four hundred people to the pole after
Tea Valley and uh. I remember one time one of
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the opponents was one against my dream team members and
he was on the housing board and he left him
and went to Washington, d C. On the workshop. And
I told the people in the city hall, you mean
he gonna leave me here? And my other comrade said,
when he comes back, he lets, You're gonna be all over.
And then like I told him, he came back. It
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was all old and we had a young lady that
part of the dream thing. She went from marriage to
a doctor in this town and he no longer he
had spied about a month ago and she said me said,
you're gonna leave clipping them here, and you going to say, well,
you knew better to leave clipping them here, and you're
going to watch in DC. Everybody call him. Anybody to
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come into town, want a one for something. They would
even come to us, even come and Ben and Thompson
come to us. He said he had never had he
had won't got both out of years county. We had
never won years of count until you got the Dream team.
We was alsome and uh. We tried to help poor people.
You help people, got houses and we did did a
lot of things for community and nobody else but none
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to do. I want raisers that they say you couldn't
w when our people that I have warned people say
you can't beat them people, but the white people got
them by the any man if we beat the one
that worked the hard. And we would work from seven
o'clock that morning to seven o'clock that evening when we
were campaigning. We were camping. Me perty, I was campaign
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sometime twelve o'clock at night. I I when I come home,
I get on my telephone. And we went there also
in the Year of the City. MM and when it's
a dream team. It was a dream team. We beat
one lady that was running for all of 'em against
one of my all of 'em, and all of all
the black people say, y'all, I gonna beat her. The
white people got her. I said, the one that worked
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the harder, and that's in't anything. And when you work
hard a sudden you you'll be successful, you know right.
I didn't lond my people to hang around on voting day.
We we'd go to high a restaurant. We had prayer.
Prayers always come first and everything. Then we leave our
we leave our go out many desig nations and we
keep up with each other, commune with each other, what
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you're doing. I got to vote over here on child Street.
I got one on briyard Head. I got five on Briyodia.
The folk would ask me and say hi. But the day,
how you get out on people? I would be hollering
when everybody else that came in. But I I loved
it and it's just part of my lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, so I have to ask you the mister Davis
with you sharing that, and I appreciated you telling our
audience about that. What gave you the courage because you
know a lot of people may see something they want done,
but they don't do it. They may talk about what
they're going to do, but they don't do it. What
gave you the conference, the comfidence and not only to
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think about it, but also to carry out.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
And do it well. I came up and I was
a little boy in the cities. I came up in
the Jim Crow years, and you know, we couldn't do
things other people did, and we were mistreated. And I
wanted to see my people go to the Nate level.
And when I came back home from college, and I
got stuck here because I didn't I went intended to
stay here, and I went to college. FBI sent me
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to college to be an FBI. And after I got
out of college, they wanted me to go back to college.
And see, I was twenty years old when I got
out of school. Now I was tired of school. Then
I went to four more years to college and so
I just started working the All the police department around
the United States wanted to have me the Border Patrol
wanted to have me, and I got here and got stuck.
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And after that I didn't want to leave, but I
had no regrants. I done have a lot of pendent
good jobs most of my job and inside jobs, and
it's what you make out of life. But I never
wanted to run and narrowminded people, these people that didn't
want now, I ain't about now. You know that, just me.
I'm a thirty third to be made a striving At
one time I went to ball Mason of Yedzu Cant.
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I did all the teaching all over Yedswood Counting. In
two thousand and six, I was worshed him after the
year for the most worship. We can't hire and Grand
Lord say the Mississippi, and I've been wishing for master
three times. I've been district District, let district patron of
the Eastern Star. And I just I was a leader
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when in this town. And everybody looked up to me
when I was when I had my dream team, cause
then then they know I was a worker holler, and
I believe in doing what I was doing. I didn't
mean real. You gotta be real, you gotta wanna do
it I remember when with to herm Elise for the
first one super Vilan. They see men and Shirley Knight
and uh Stacy and Sugar. I don holly Bluff and
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that time you wouldn't Daddy go out in holly Bluff.
But the hermonlif was running against the biggest white man
in in Holler Blood, Wayne whe I went out there,
whether we went out there and I persuade him, persuade
old people to vote for Hermonly And when he won,
he wanted to get me a job, but I already
was him for the mental health as an Ivory count.
I voted over three hundred people for his brother, and
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the great mayor wii Elite he for his won. I
see a kind of math you see in my math
wife now Leeds.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Well, well, I think too. As people think about that
you know, and what you've been able to do in
the past, I think a lot of people are also
thinking about what's possible for the future. So, as you mentioned,
you've seen a lot of the changes that's take taking
place here, mister Davis over the years. Where have you seen, though,
especially our audience when it comes to young people, Where
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do you think young people can do more in taking
a stand when it comes to helping city and Yesie County.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I think, first of all, I think we need some
program for the young people, you know, like the boy
and Girl club that went down there. You've got to
generally for to make them want to be better and
do better and something to look forward to it. But
there are no struggle in the houme most of with
the young people math. You know, most of the family
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the mother expects I ain't. No man's in the have
too much. Most of them going to being going to
the boat or to the casinos. And the young boy
knows what time they leaving. So it's it's just mostly
children in years who see the mostly raising children. That's
so sad, you know, I wish they had had some
some home raising and we just I think when you
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got a family young people, I think every home and
you will see they need to cut their te television,
our everything and have a family meeting once or twice
a week. When you go to a home, this family
member in the other room on a computer, different in
the evening, just in the other room playing a game.
And they never have no family me no structure. You
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got to have a family meeting for for a family
to grow, because if you don't teach your children the
street on teaching, you don't want the street teaching your
teach your child. Ain't nothing out there but bad in
the street. They don't teach you nothing good. And that's
what I'd like to see. More family, more family, have
family me But we don't do that nothing more. You know,
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when you when I was coming up with the wild,
our family would have family. I mean mother and father
stay up there and their mother with they'll call one
up again. We did have a family meeting. That's no longer.
It is this in the home of my more right.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah. So with that being said, then I want to
ask you about, you know, being a role model. You know,
you've shared with our audience here a lot of different
things that you've been able to do, things that have
helped you. Talk to us about what it's been like
for you to have people young and old be able
to look at you as an example of what they
can do.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Yeah, I have. I've had a lot of young people
most day would like to be like you when I
grow up. I'm just a dreamer, you know, when I
when I get up before an artie, you know, I
always pray and as God get in this dren and
I don't even want to be seeing and say it,
but everybody said was good. I used to go around
to different churches around in the can and speak and
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I didn't try to live a life where somebody want
to be like me. It makes me feel good when
young people they never see me out doing drugs, a
drinking and program using for Fane Lane. You know, you
if you want somebody to respect you, then you got
to respect yourself. And that's what I believe right Yeah,
even my own curity. They never seen me drink. I
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don't drink around him and I will. You know, I
don't do certain thing around you know. I want to
keep that respect because once you lose that respect, that's it.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Well, it's an important lesson for all of us to
be able to keep in mind, and it really shows
us what's possible. And that's why we're glad to have
you on the program today. Get everyone. Mister Clifton Davis
has been our guest. We've been talking to him knowingly
about his life and yes he's city, but it's not
like for him to use his experiences to be able
to show other people what's possible. As well, as I mentioned,
he is on Facebook, so you guys can be able
to follow him there at Clifton Davis one zero six
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as Clifton dot Davis that one zero six women sure
that we tagged that up as well. For you all
joining us online too, mister Davis, thank you again for
spending some time with us. Really appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Thank you too, God blessed. Thanks soon as the time exactly,
and we.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
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