December 12, 2024 • 38 mins
With Kraven the Hunter swinging into theaters, we’re revisiting a classic clash: Kraven gives the X-Men a chilling ultimatum—let him hunt Hank McCoy, or Avia dies! Beast agrees, but the hunter’s venom-laced traps send Hank spiraling into a feral frenzy. Can the X-Men stop both Kraven and their friend before it’s too late?
Meanwhile, Polaris disappears without a trace, leaving Alex reeling, and Charles Xavier’s old friend Agent Fred Duncan stirs up tension—and maybe a little romance? Packed with high-stakes hunts, venom-fueled rage, and X-Men drama, this episode has it all. Don’t miss our breakdown of one of Kraven’s most sinister games! Will Beast lose himself, and what does it mean for Lorna’s fate? Tune in to find out!
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Meanwhile, Polaris disappears without a trace, leaving Alex reeling, and Charles Xavier’s old friend Agent Fred Duncan stirs up tension—and maybe a little romance? Packed with high-stakes hunts, venom-fueled rage, and X-Men drama, this episode has it all. Don’t miss our breakdown of one of Kraven’s most sinister games! Will Beast lose himself, and what does it mean for Lorna’s fate? Tune in to find out!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, everybody. This is Chandler and this is Chris and
you're listening to X Streets the podcast. We are back
with another episode, this episode one thirty four, and we
(00:24):
are in the holiday season. We are so excited to
be talking about some exciting new films coming up, actually,
because we've got a Marvel movie about to release in cinemas.
It's coming out on your birthday? Are you going to
go see it for your birthday? Yeah? Probably?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
It looks, you know, exciting. I think Craven, the actor
is really hot. Who plays him?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Aaron Taylor Johnson.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Oh yeah, yeah, he totally sold it for me that trailer,
And I've always loved Craven's costume, and I think he
kind of sort of makes an appearance this movie.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Oh yeah, I think it definitely does. We've seen it
in the posters, so we're definitely gonna see the awesome
iconic Craven. Look. Aaron Taylor Johnson. If he was a
nineties heart throb star, we would call him ATJ oh really,
just because of JTT and all of those triple named actors.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, yeah, JLH.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Right is it? I just feel like he would be
ATJ and everybody would know who that is, but no,
Aaron Taylor Johnson is what we call him by the
full name. Anyways, Yes, go see Craven the Hunter. It
is coming out in cinemas on December thirteenth, aka Chris's birthday.
So celebrate Chris's birthday by going to see Craven the
(01:46):
Hunter in theaters.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Brought to you by Sony.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
We have the holidays in full swing this month, Chris.
Do you have any fun holiday plans?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Absolutely not. It's just one of those years that's going
to be quiet and nothing's gonna happen. And I refuse
to listen to Christmas music until December fifteenth.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Oh that's my rule.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
If I hear it on the radio, I'm like, if
it's playing in a store, I think we're gonna go
shop somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Okay, wow, then you're not gonna find a store to
shop in.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Well, you know, I shouldn't be shopping anyway. I The
other thing about me is like I have a very
generous heart. So in Christmas season I get in trouble
because I just, you know, spend my resources on getting
gifts for other people and then I don't have resources.
So this year, perhaps that'll be different, that's okay. Christmas music,
(02:45):
quiet Holidays in is all good.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I don't have any major plans except for just being
with family and doing all that sort of regular Christmas stuff.
We don't have any grand adventures. Like last year we
were all in New Orleans for New Year's Eve and
stuff like that. So this is going to be a
mild adventure Christmas. But I'm really hoping we get some
good snow. Last year it was just raining in December,
(03:09):
which was weird for Minnesota, but we will see.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
And in southern California it's probably gon a dip to
the low levels of sixty nine.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
No, oh my gosh, get your ug boots on, it's
so cold. Well, and some exciting December news. On December sixth,
Marvel Rivals debuts. This is an amazing video game that
(03:40):
they've been teasing for a number of months, but they
just revealed we've got some new characters coming into the game.
But the X characters that of course we're going to
focus on is that you get to play as Magic, Magneto,
Silock and Wolverine and I can't wait to play this game.
This is like an Overwatch kind of type of you know,
first person shooter type game, but looks more easy. I
(04:03):
feel like it. I can't do first person shooters. They're
too chaotic. I can't like like, I don't my reflexes
are not that sharp. But this watching gameplay, I'm like,
this feels a little bit more strategic and not so
insanely turbo. So it's gonna be worldwide drop on December sixth.
It's a free to play a game with obviously micro
purchases too.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
To may always hit you with those micro purchases, I know,
because you need those outfits.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
You're gonna see your friends playing around, you know, black
Panther and this is in an amazing outfit. You're gonna
be like, I need it. It's only three ninety nine
free to play. Marvel rivals can't wait to play it.
And the other thing that is on my Santa list,
by the way, is the Lego X Mansion.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Oohoo, oh my god, this is brilliant. It's so detailed.
I saw a company also that was selling a light
kit for it.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yes, looks so cool. Yeah yeah, I saw it online.
It looks Oh, it looks so neat. I love those
like kits. That's so interesting, you know, I think it's
a must. I know it is a musk ye. I
was gonna I know there's no room, there's no room.
I was gonna impulse by it. But we bought the
(05:15):
Blackbird lego set. It's still in the box, so I'm like,
until the Blackbird gets built, I'm not going to get
the X Mansion because then that's going to sit in
the box and not get built. So I'll wait. Maybe
it'll dip down in price, hopefully. Fingers crossed at three
hundred and twenty nine dollars and ninety nine cents, I
wouldn't mind a little discount on that.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
When you I've never bought one of these kits before,
so it literally comes as just bags of bricks and
you got to like piece it together, correct, is it?
I mean that X mansion looks so intricate.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
It does. It does, but you know it's a I
don't think it'll be too difficult. You know, it's mostly
square rooms with little elements, so to be to build
a square room in legos is not as difficult as
more rounded shapes and whatnot. So I'm up for the challenge.
I don't have any space for it. I'm not buying it.
Right now. But it's on Santa's list, So if Santa,
(06:07):
if you're listening, I wouldn't mind opening it up on
Charistmas Day.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Dude, Chandler, I just had a psychic vision. I don't
think you should get this because you have cats, and
it would be perfectly displayed somewhere in your house where
those cats are going to jump up and knock those
legos onto the ground. And the worst thing about legos
on the ground is what, Chandler.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
You step on them?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
You step on them cats? The Christmas horrors?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
I know.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
No.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Anyways, well that is on my wish list. My other
Santa list is this amazing dazzler statue from Sideshow Collectibles.
Oh it's so good, so beautiful.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
How much is it going to be?
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Like, I don't know, I don't know. I haven't gone.
They said that they're gonna be shipping soon, so I
think it was a pre order. But it was a
beautiful disco dazzler, very large seeming statue and it's it's gorgeous.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I'm into it. Yeah, we have a disco ball.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
On it, like I think she's standing on a disco
ball and there's all this like light effect going up
and around her, and she's got her microphone in her hand. Actually,
if you guys go to our Instagram page, which is
at x Read's podcast, you can see everything that's going on.
But yeah, she's she's got her disco ball. I cannot.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah, very disco.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yes, yeah. You can see the Lego X mansion, the
Dazzler side show statue, and all sorts of goodies on
our Instagram page. We actually have been posting a lot
of that kind of content because we love Marvel and
we love X and so why not. Today we are
doing an exciting issue for you that takes place in
(08:06):
February of two thousand and one, So we are going
to set the era of what happened in February of
two thousand and one, specifically February seventh.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
That's correct. And on February seven, two thousand and one,
the top song was it Wasn't Me by Shaggy featuring
Ricardo Rick Rock Deucent. Yes, it wasn't me, It wasn't.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Was a me somethings, other things something Anyways, Yes, I
can vaguely recall this song.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
A lot of other cool songs that came out though
around that time too, right.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Oh, yeah. I mean, of the of the big songs
that came out, I definitely have to give love to
Jennifer Lopez for Love Don't Cost a Thing, because that
was kind of, I think, her debut as a pop star.
Or this is their first album at least that came
out in two thousand and one, and so just as
like huge hit for me.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, because Love Don't Cost.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
A Thing something something sounds anyways. Other song, what's another
song that came out in February two thousand and one?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Oh gosh, wasn't that like Destiny's Child? Independent woman?
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Ooh, independent, throw your hands up at man. Yes, that
was part of Charlie's Angels. I think so that must
have been the time when Drew Barrymore and Cameron Diaz
and Lucy Lew were the Angels.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Let's bring them back, Hollywood. We're ready.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
I know we're ready. They're rebooting everything, like getting them
to come back as retired angels. I would love it, Yes,
retired angels. Yes, not to say that that retirement age.
I'm just saying, you know, Charlie's Angels. I feel like
they would retire at one point, but they got to
(10:01):
come back into the field because you know, there's no
one else better that can do it.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, I love it, Hollywood, make it happen.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
The other big song in February two thousand and one
was the song Again by Lenny Kravitz, and which is
kind of like a slow love song. But what I
love about it is in the music video you get
to see his butt because he was gratuitously like taking
off his shirt in a lot of his music videos,
but in this one, it's all about him sleeping with
(10:33):
some woman and wondering if he's going to see her again.
And he does this whole scene where he just takes
off all of his clothes in the bathroom and like
brushes his teeth and gets ready to take a shower.
And at one point you see some side button.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
You're like, oh my lord, I guess I have to
revisit that again.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Yeah, I did all right.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Movie top film, Hannibal, oh Ridley Scott movie, m h Yeah,
I know these something about like I'm going to eat
his brains with the cup of tea and fava beans.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Stop it. No, I could eat your liver with a
kiyanti or with fava beans and kanti or whatever he goes.
That's from Silence of the Lambs. Hannibal is just a
continuation of that, and of course continues Anthony Hopkins. And
the woman in this film is Julian Moore. I actually
saw this in the movie theater and I thought it
was good.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Yeah, I liked it too when I saw it, I
loved it. Julianne Moore in it.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
She's fabulous absolutely. All right. Well, let's get on with
this issue. We're doing X Men The Hidden Years, number seventeen.
It's written by John Byrne, art by John Byrne, Tom Palmer,
published February seventh of two thousand and one, titled Hunter
and Hunted Hunty.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
No, it's it.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Tea all right.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
So on the cover, we have a craven in the background.
He is a lurking in the trees. It's very shadowy
and dark. It's at night time. And in the foreground
we see Beast who is on alert waiting for Craving
to pop out.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yes, in the background we see Craven lurching in the trees,
knife in hand, wearing his iconic animal print wear and
lion vest. Very very dynamic. Mm hmm. I didn't realize
that this was called X Men The Hidden Years because
the Hidden Years is hidden by Craven's body.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Oh, you're right, he's got a lot of fur on
his jacket there.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
So well we open up, we get a big splash
page of beast standing in the trees and he is
thinking to himself about how he's got eyes on him
because he is being hunted by Craving the hunter.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
And I just have to mention that this is the
beast that is more human form as opposed to the
beast that we're more familiar with with the blue.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Fur al over, correct, Yes, this is the Hidden Years
take place. We should kind of maybe dial back a
little bit. What is the Hidden Years? Chris? How would
you describe that?
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I guess I would describe it as Marvel's attempt to
have an entry point for people into the X Men universe.
They just gave these stories that were interlaced into the
history and the canon of the x ME universe. But
X Men has been going around since what nineteen sixty three?
Mm hmmm, it's got to be hard to just jump in,
(13:43):
you know what I mean? Yes, And I used to
watch soap operas, so this whole thing is very soap operatic.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Over the years, Yes, and so these hidden years are
particularly poised for that original five Silver Age era of comics,
and I I think they're supposed to land in the
canceled years. When X Men was canceled and it was
reprinting itself, there was this era where it would just
kept re releasing the same stories, but they kept the
(14:11):
numbers kept going up. So I think John Byrne was like, Hey,
I want to fill in some of the gaps of
what happened in that time. So we have this story
of Craven the Hunter, hunting beast in the woods of
Xavier Institute. He is being hunted because there is this
bird like woman named Avilla who is dying slowly of
(14:33):
a poison that Craven inflicted on her, and the only
way to heal her is to agree to this hunt
because we all know Craven loves a hunt.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yes he does. And there is a bunch of people
surrounding Avia who is on this medical table. We have
Lorna Dane, we have Cyclops, we have Iceman Jean Gray
and Havoc.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yes, and they they don't know if her status is
good or bad because she's an alien. So all all
of their technology is based around human vitals, so they
don't know. They just know that there's no change, so
therefore they think that's good news. We are I don't know,
I mean she are are bird people, so that's very possible. Hmm. Indeed,
(15:26):
though I don't think that she have come into the
storyline at this point. You know, this is pre Phoenix saga.
So I'm gonna say no, We're back out in the
woods with Beasts, and he is bounding through the woods
and doing very much like Indiana Jones avoiding traps Temple
of Doom stuff, because there's spikes and various things trying
(15:50):
to th whack him and partanging through the woods. Did
you get Indiana Jones vibes?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
And these traps are brutal, we got spikes, we got
you know, all these things. But you know what, it
doesn't matter, you know why, because Beast is exactly trained
for these types of things. It's true the danger room.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
M M.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
This is all this is is the danger room outdoors.
Let's take a fild trip correct.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
And then there is a net at one point, and
the net gets him and flams him against a tree,
and apparently in this sequence he gets poisoned, which we'll
get into a little bit later. Mm hm. But we
cut to a scene that I don't quite know. This
is obviously a harken back to the previous sixteen issues
(16:43):
of this book, because there's all sorts of people in
like a control room, including two like little children.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Well, let's just describe who these people are. We've got
a purple hair spiky you know, what is she like
a glam goth?
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Look?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, okay, yeah, Simon who was a little boy, but
it just so happens that he's actually a very old man.
He was born in nineteen forty five, y'all. But right, yes,
a week for every decade.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Usually I say multiple man as what I want my
mute empower to be. But in this moment, I think
I'm going to go into my era of saying that
it's this boy's power.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Oh wow, cool. Well, the other people. There's a guy
in like a black leather jacket with red hair. There
is a blonde woman with a green plaid pencil skirt,
and then there is this imposing brown suited gentleman with
gray hair. And the perspective that they've drawn him makes
(17:50):
him look like a giant. He looks absolutely huge, and
for some reason, I feel like that is not the
attent they were trying to drop perspective, and to mean,
I don't unless everybody's very tiny and he's just regular sized.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Well, it's a good thing that they built him an
extra large chair to match his body.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Yes, I guess so. But the one thing we learned
from the scene is that they are interested in Polaris.
They have somehow infiltrated her and cause to befuddle her.
And when we come back to the X mansion, we
see her in a state of distress and she's a
bit distracted, and she hears her name, but nobody in
(18:31):
the room said her name, so they have somehow infiltrated her.
Psyche dunt dun dunn, dun dum. They're like, Lorna, get
your head together. We've got to go help Beast, and
because they don't want to wait around in the mansion
any longer, and we cut to Beast back in the woods.
(18:54):
He's getting out of the net and we learn that
Craven is entering his pulse rate and his breath and
his blood. And he said that the various venoms with
which I charged each of the traps has now caused
him to kind of go off the rails, and that's
(19:15):
the effect he wanted. And he says, now, let Craven hunt, and.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
He looks very feral with the shadow figure silhouette, like
an animal himself, a lion.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Even, yes. And then we have a really funny scene
in Dunfe, Illinois where Xavier is chatting with a gentleman
I don't remember his name right now, Fred, Yeah, that's
his name, Fred with the FBI, I think. Anyways, but
(19:46):
what I love about this scene is that a woman
comes in and he, oh, his name is Fred Duncan.
Who's that.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Oh that's an old friend, a professor x and he
was the mentor to executioner. Oh wow, Well there's a
weird connection there, so.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Like a humanity type person seems. But anyways, what makes
us seem fun is that this woman kind of jets
in and she is talking to them a professor. She
wants to offer them coffee and donuts, and professor says
that he's fine. Ms Martin and she says, Terry, I
(20:32):
keep asking you to call me Terry Charles, and then
we get this little flirty moment between them.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
It's so weird and awkward. What is she like wearing?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Like?
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Who is she?
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Is this mystique in disguise? Is she infiltrating the mansion
right now?
Speaker 1 (20:49):
I don't know, but yes her. She's wearing a crop
top tied up work shirt, showing off her mid drift
and it looks like just jeans the belt, and she's
got kind of big librarian glasses on her.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
She kind of looks like she's worrying. The nineteen fifties
bra that makes your boots look like bombshells. Yes, so
this is the kind of thing that we're seeing here.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Yes, but anyways, call me Terry and he says, yes, Terry,
thank you. We shall be out directly. And she says, okay,
see you soon then, And what does Fred Duncan say?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Well, Charles, you old devil.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Wink wank wink, I know what a flirt? Xavier, it
is Terry. Who is this woman? I don't know. Back
in the woods, the X Men are going out there
to help be So it is Jeane, Psyclops, Polaris, Havoc,
(21:48):
and Iceman, but the team is at odds and Iceman
and Havoc are having words. So Jean Gray is telepathically
speaking to the team, and Havoc says, never gonna get
used to hearing Jean's voice in my head like that.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
And Bobby says reason number one, you'll never be a
real X Men Summers.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Ooh, and Alex hotly says, oh and like you'd know
all about that haunt Drake mister, I quit, but now
I'm back.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I'm only back for as long as my friend needs
my help, jerk. But before I go, maybe I can
find two minutes to push that fancy headdress of yours
down round your ankles.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Why wait for Rosty, I can spare the thirty seconds
it will take to stick a carrot up your nose.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
And then Psyklops jumps in Alex Bobby cut it out,
but Bobby replies, keep out of this psych The man
in black here may be your baby brother, but this
is strictly between.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Him and oh my head.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Jean Gray is eye blasting them into submission, oh boy,
and then cyclops them a stern talking to to knock
it off.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Well, Bobby's like, well, you guys are on your own then,
because I'm going off to help my friend. And then
they turned to Laura, who's looking the opposite direction, not
paying any attention to this fight that her boyfriend is having.
She's like off looking into the woods. She is so befuddled, pensive,
and they're like, Lorna, oh sorry what I was? I
(23:34):
I was.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
You were distracted something you cannot afford to be. Look, Laura,
if you don't feel up to this, maybe you should
go back to the house.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
And hey, back off, Scott. He SA's havoc. Lorna's handled
herself just fine since she joined. She doesn't need you
playing with playing little tin god with her.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Okay, okay, take it down a notch Alex, but stay alert, Lorna.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Yeah, stay alert exactly. Don't be off looking into the sky.
I feel Okay. We're back with Craven and Hank.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
And the chase is on and Craven is into trees. Well,
Hank is on the ground and he leaps out of
the tree and crashes into his back, causing him to fall,
and then the scuffle begins.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Yeah, we get like a wrestler moment of him lifting
up Beast above his head like ha haha.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Craven throws him across and then you know, I just
love Beast because of his acrobatic skills, and we get
to see panels of him, you know, doing gymnast moves,
cracks right down on a Craven's face.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
With a wob But the line that he reads in
this moment is pretty pretty fierce. Beast does this gymnastic
move by grabbing a branch, spinning himself around and flying
feet first at Craven's face. And he says, and since
I dare say, Spider Man never battered you with toads
(25:06):
of such profound proportion. And I love how he talks
about his feet anytime he can, Beast talks about his feet.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Can we talk about Beast's feet for a second, talk
about him? Okay, I know we live it in this
era where people are open about things that they like.
I just think that Beast could make a killing on
(25:37):
OnlyFans for feet.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
People, Oh indeed only feet, yes, indeed.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
But then you know this is a compook, This is
a reality. And the reality is Beasts has been trapesing
around outside in the dirt, in the mud, in the grass.
There might be death thing and spiders, indeed trash ah germs.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
But you know he's still got great feet. But Craven
gets a blow to the back of his neck causing
a pinched nerve and he loses the use of his
left arm completely.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
I'm calling Xena pinch right now because we don't really
like see the pinch.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
No, how we do.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
It's kind of like in the neck Yep. That's the
Xena pinch right exactly, get it with his elbow.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
But the thing about Beast is that he still has
three usable limbs, and his feet are so dexterious they're
just like hands, and so he is able to right
himself even with the loss of his arm, and with
his feet and his usable arm, he takes a vine
and is able to tie up Craven, but Craven does
(26:58):
not let that stop him because he is a whipset
a knife and cuts his way out of the vines.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
And then Havoc is searching through the woods for Lorna,
who has suddenly disappeared.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Just walked off her usual head in the clouds.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Mm hmm. Havoc didn't hear any sounds of any scuffles
or anything, but he's just kind of wondering if Craven
got to her or not. He looks up and he's
and he shouts Lorna, and then we cut to the
next scene. Yes, Jean Gray. I love this panel because
this is representing the psychic connection that she has inside
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the brain of the other XI men. But we kind
of see the ghostly apparition of a head mind as
Cyclops and Iceman are kind of wading their way through
the tall grass. Now, this is inside of the Xavier's Institute, right, This.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Is the grounds of the Xavier Institute.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Yeah, are the Xavier School for the gifted youngsters? Rather correct,
they don't have a gardener.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
But this is like the wild woods in the back.
This is not the.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Like they have the wild woods in the back.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
I've always had the woods, I know, but I thought.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
You know, at least they would keep up their grounds
a little bit better.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Well, I think the grounds closer to the home is.
But this is like deep woods, like there's no neighbors
kind of woods.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Like on the property, but further out.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Correct, Okay, I see, yes, Yeah, so Gene is psychically
reporting to these guys, but she's also psychically reporting on
beasts mental state, and she's a little concerned because he
seems to be getting more and more aggravated, and as
Craven and He continue to tumble, he gets more and
(28:48):
more beastly in his emotions and everything. Craven is like, listen,
I'm going to win this fight because I have no hesitation.
I am willing to kill. And that's where you as
an X Men fail, because you know you're always trying
to do good. And he gets a slash into Beast's
chess with more venom, and Beast It, you know, speaks
(29:12):
about how the mounting miasma surrounding his brain is something
that he's that Craven has induced in his body. But
he is not going to back down, and like I said,
he gets more and more angry, and.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
We finally get a Gene saying Scott.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Exactly, Jeane, why aren't you using your tub dielepathy if
Craven is near enough to hear it, and She's like,
no time for subtlety. Now, dude has done something to Hank.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
We don't bust up that fight immediately. I'm afraid one
of Hank's greatest fears maybe realized. And Beast is like
out of control. He is Wolverine, berserker, rage worthy fighting Craven.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Yes, and I love how Craven's like, oh no, he's
not a good troll. I didn't know he had like
laser blast eyes out of his uh lion vest. But
he does a laser blast out of his vest to
get away, and then all of a sudden, Craven is
the hunted and Beast is the hunter, and he grabs
him by the ankle, swings him around, and his face
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is looking more and more beastly.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Ooh, I love the reds there.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
That looks ferociously angry.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
And Cyclops has to put him down, he says, hank,
and he cha cows him with his optic blast and
then holds him and he's like, Beasts, you have to
stop fighting against my beam.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
So I believe that this is like set phasers to
stun level. Mm hmm yeah, because you know, I don't
think the laser beam would not go through if Cyclops
was going normal force.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Correct well, and and you know the debate of what
exactly the optic blast is. I think it's supposed to
be concussive force rather than heat laser. So it's like
as if somebody's pushing, you know, rather than hot.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Excuse me, it is a heat laser.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Chris, you're gonna have the Internet come after us. No,
we can't say that heat vision it's not like Superman's
heat vision.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Concussive force.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
I literally, I'm just discovering this right now.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Well, and with enough, you know, you can concussive force
your way through a wall of steel. You know, it
doesn't matter, you know the physics of it. You can
go through. But it does not melt things. It blasts
through things concussively.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Well, now that I think about, you're right, Oh my god,
my whole life is changing in this very moment.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Got my eyes are open, cancus of force.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
No cyclopes, don't open your eyes anyway. We have Bobby
taking down Craven who with his ice beam, and Craven
is just like, keep away from me.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
He's mad, insane, And they're able to capture Craven after
Beast's finally surrenders and he collapses and he's like, you.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Have to save everything, even from myself. So dramatic, so dramatic.
And we're back in the X mansion and he has
provided the antidote for a VS so she can recover
and Beasts can also recover from his venoms that are
in his body. And Gene is like, well, I'm going
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to do what the professor would do. The situation, and
I'm going to just remove your memories that this ever
happened because I love to take away free will.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
Oh yeah, and she you know this is this is
the mechanism of course of why has Craven never remembered
that this fight happened and blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
So you know, that's how they're able to do things
from the past is through the trick of telepathy.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
But it works, and then Beast is just like, yeah,
I'm me too, I don't want to remember this.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Yeah, exactly, horrible exactly said hm hm.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
But the thing is Wolverine, in a comic book we read,
I believe, wanted to have those memories.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
I think Domino right, didn't she also want to have
those memories?
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Yes, yeah, in the Krakoa era when they would lose
part of their memory.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
So, you know, is Beast wrong in this moment or
is it just like, you know, different for everybody based
on their preference.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Probably different for everybody, you know, as long as it's
their choice and not just taken from them, you know,
without their choosing. But you know, if you wish to
not remember, and you have somebody with the ability to
help you forget then, you know.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Yeah, I guess it depends on the situation in my book.
You know, I think all the trauma, like nobody likes
trauma shit, But of all the stuff that I've experienced
in life, It's made me grow and and I think
I'm a better person for having survived experiences for sure.
So I think I'm more in line with uh Domino
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and Wolverine on this one.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Yeah. Absolutely, I think memories are important. I don't think,
you know, they can should be taken away willy nilly
like Professor and Jane do whenever they feel like it.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
But maybe there are some things that we will want
to forget. In the Dark Phoenix movie, you.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Know, I didn't hate it. I did not hate it.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Oh it was off.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
I didn't hate it. I did not like Apocalypse. I
thought the Apocalypse movie was atrocious. The Dark Phoenix one
I didn't hate.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Come on, I was so out when they killed Mistike.
I'm sorry. It was just so throwaway, trash whatever, move
on to the next storyline.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Yeah, well, like really, that's because Jennifer Lopez or Jennifer
Lopez sorry, Jennifer Lawrence. Jennifer Lawrence was wanted out. She
just was so ton done with those movies.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Yeah, I they agreed that a little bit more exciting.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Agreed, agreed of course. Anyways, to finish off the issue
is that Hank, you know, debates getting the his memories
removed because he hates what the beast that he became.
And then Havoc runs in and goes, it's Laura. She's gone.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
She's gone, gone, says Bobby.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
She she floated up into the air. She floated up
and just drifted away. What that doesn't sound like she
was taken or that she shot up into the air
and she was nowhere to be seen. No, it just
sounded like she just was like bye, like Glinda in
her bubble, like floating up into the air. Abye.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Well, that's totally bonkers. And next we have what is
the promise?
Speaker 1 (36:24):
What is the promise? I don't know?
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Oh no, well, you know, maybe Havoc is going to
promise to find Laura and you know, use the nets
and try to catch her.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Well, good luck to him and that and that's our
story of X Men and Craven. So go see Craven
the Hunter.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Right, what's your favorite part of the issue.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Beast talking about his feet really yes.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
You know, I mean when Beast was able to like
do things with his feet, it all on that one page.
I'm just like, oh, he's very talented with those.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
I'm sure he can do things.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
I'm kind of like transported to the everything everywhere all
at once to mention.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
We're oh with their feet, Yes, yes, I'd love yes.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Yeah. I guess my favorite part would be the fight
between Havoc and Iceman because I was popping my popcorn.
I was just like, yeah, this is some good old
soap opa right here.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Yes, give it a brawl.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
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you play the Spider Man two video game because he
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is a batty baddy batty in that game and he's
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Thanks so much for listening by
Hi, everybody. This is Chandler and this is Chris and
you're listening to X Streets the podcast. We are back
with another episode, this episode one thirty four, and we
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are in the holiday season. We are so excited to
be talking about some exciting new films coming up, actually,
because we've got a Marvel movie about to release in cinemas.
It's coming out on your birthday? Are you going to
go see it for your birthday? Yeah? Probably?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
It looks, you know, exciting. I think Craven, the actor
is really hot. Who plays him?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Aaron Taylor Johnson.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Oh yeah, yeah, he totally sold it for me that trailer,
And I've always loved Craven's costume, and I think he
kind of sort of makes an appearance this movie.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Oh yeah, I think it definitely does. We've seen it
in the posters, so we're definitely gonna see the awesome
iconic Craven. Look. Aaron Taylor Johnson. If he was a
nineties heart throb star, we would call him ATJ oh really,
just because of JTT and all of those triple named actors.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, yeah, JLH.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Right is it? I just feel like he would be
ATJ and everybody would know who that is, but no,
Aaron Taylor Johnson is what we call him by the
full name. Anyways, Yes, go see Craven the Hunter. It
is coming out in cinemas on December thirteenth, aka Chris's birthday.
So celebrate Chris's birthday by going to see Craven the
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Hunter in theaters.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Brought to you by Sony.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
We have the holidays in full swing this month, Chris.
Do you have any fun holiday plans?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Absolutely not. It's just one of those years that's going
to be quiet and nothing's gonna happen. And I refuse
to listen to Christmas music until December fifteenth.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Oh that's my rule.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
If I hear it on the radio, I'm like, if
it's playing in a store, I think we're gonna go
shop somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Okay, wow, then you're not gonna find a store to
shop in.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Well, you know, I shouldn't be shopping anyway. I The
other thing about me is like I have a very
generous heart. So in Christmas season I get in trouble
because I just, you know, spend my resources on getting
gifts for other people and then I don't have resources.
So this year, perhaps that'll be different, that's okay. Christmas music,
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quiet Holidays in is all good.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I don't have any major plans except for just being
with family and doing all that sort of regular Christmas stuff.
We don't have any grand adventures. Like last year we
were all in New Orleans for New Year's Eve and
stuff like that. So this is going to be a
mild adventure Christmas. But I'm really hoping we get some
good snow. Last year it was just raining in December,
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which was weird for Minnesota, but we will see.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
And in southern California it's probably gon a dip to
the low levels of sixty nine.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
No, oh my gosh, get your ug boots on, it's
so cold. Well, and some exciting December news. On December sixth,
Marvel Rivals debuts. This is an amazing video game that
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they've been teasing for a number of months, but they
just revealed we've got some new characters coming into the game.
But the X characters that of course we're going to
focus on is that you get to play as Magic, Magneto,
Silock and Wolverine and I can't wait to play this game.
This is like an Overwatch kind of type of you know,
first person shooter type game, but looks more easy. I
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feel like it. I can't do first person shooters. They're
too chaotic. I can't like like, I don't my reflexes
are not that sharp. But this watching gameplay, I'm like,
this feels a little bit more strategic and not so
insanely turbo. So it's gonna be worldwide drop on December sixth.
It's a free to play a game with obviously micro
purchases too.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
To may always hit you with those micro purchases, I know,
because you need those outfits.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
You're gonna see your friends playing around, you know, black
Panther and this is in an amazing outfit. You're gonna
be like, I need it. It's only three ninety nine
free to play. Marvel rivals can't wait to play it.
And the other thing that is on my Santa list,
by the way, is the Lego X Mansion.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Oohoo, oh my god, this is brilliant. It's so detailed.
I saw a company also that was selling a light
kit for it.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yes, looks so cool. Yeah yeah, I saw it online.
It looks Oh, it looks so neat. I love those
like kits. That's so interesting, you know, I think it's
a must. I know it is a musk ye. I
was gonna I know there's no room, there's no room.
I was gonna impulse by it. But we bought the
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Blackbird lego set. It's still in the box, so I'm like,
until the Blackbird gets built, I'm not going to get
the X Mansion because then that's going to sit in
the box and not get built. So I'll wait. Maybe
it'll dip down in price, hopefully. Fingers crossed at three
hundred and twenty nine dollars and ninety nine cents, I
wouldn't mind a little discount on that.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
When you I've never bought one of these kits before,
so it literally comes as just bags of bricks and
you got to like piece it together, correct, is it?
I mean that X mansion looks so intricate.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
It does. It does, but you know it's a I
don't think it'll be too difficult. You know, it's mostly
square rooms with little elements, so to be to build
a square room in legos is not as difficult as
more rounded shapes and whatnot. So I'm up for the challenge.
I don't have any space for it. I'm not buying it.
Right now. But it's on Santa's list, So if Santa,
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if you're listening, I wouldn't mind opening it up on
Charistmas Day.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Dude, Chandler, I just had a psychic vision. I don't
think you should get this because you have cats, and
it would be perfectly displayed somewhere in your house where
those cats are going to jump up and knock those
legos onto the ground. And the worst thing about legos
on the ground is what, Chandler.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
You step on them?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
You step on them cats? The Christmas horrors?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
I know.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
No.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Anyways, well that is on my wish list. My other
Santa list is this amazing dazzler statue from Sideshow Collectibles.
Oh it's so good, so beautiful.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
How much is it going to be?
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Like, I don't know, I don't know. I haven't gone.
They said that they're gonna be shipping soon, so I
think it was a pre order. But it was a
beautiful disco dazzler, very large seeming statue and it's it's gorgeous.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I'm into it. Yeah, we have a disco ball.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
On it, like I think she's standing on a disco
ball and there's all this like light effect going up
and around her, and she's got her microphone in her hand. Actually,
if you guys go to our Instagram page, which is
at x Read's podcast, you can see everything that's going on.
But yeah, she's she's got her disco ball. I cannot.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah, very disco.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yes, yeah. You can see the Lego X mansion, the
Dazzler side show statue, and all sorts of goodies on
our Instagram page. We actually have been posting a lot
of that kind of content because we love Marvel and
we love X and so why not. Today we are
doing an exciting issue for you that takes place in
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February of two thousand and one, So we are going
to set the era of what happened in February of
two thousand and one, specifically February seventh.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
That's correct. And on February seven, two thousand and one,
the top song was it Wasn't Me by Shaggy featuring
Ricardo Rick Rock Deucent. Yes, it wasn't me, It wasn't.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Was a me somethings, other things something Anyways, Yes, I
can vaguely recall this song.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
A lot of other cool songs that came out though
around that time too, right.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Oh, yeah. I mean, of the of the big songs
that came out, I definitely have to give love to
Jennifer Lopez for Love Don't Cost a Thing, because that
was kind of, I think, her debut as a pop star.
Or this is their first album at least that came
out in two thousand and one, and so just as
like huge hit for me.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, because Love Don't Cost.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
A Thing something something sounds anyways. Other song, what's another
song that came out in February two thousand and one?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Oh gosh, wasn't that like Destiny's Child? Independent woman?
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Ooh, independent, throw your hands up at man. Yes, that
was part of Charlie's Angels. I think so that must
have been the time when Drew Barrymore and Cameron Diaz
and Lucy Lew were the Angels.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Let's bring them back, Hollywood. We're ready.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
I know we're ready. They're rebooting everything, like getting them
to come back as retired angels. I would love it, Yes,
retired angels. Yes, not to say that that retirement age.
I'm just saying, you know, Charlie's Angels. I feel like
they would retire at one point, but they got to
(10:01):
come back into the field because you know, there's no
one else better that can do it.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, I love it, Hollywood, make it happen.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
The other big song in February two thousand and one
was the song Again by Lenny Kravitz, and which is
kind of like a slow love song. But what I
love about it is in the music video you get
to see his butt because he was gratuitously like taking
off his shirt in a lot of his music videos,
but in this one, it's all about him sleeping with
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some woman and wondering if he's going to see her again.
And he does this whole scene where he just takes
off all of his clothes in the bathroom and like
brushes his teeth and gets ready to take a shower.
And at one point you see some side button.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
You're like, oh my lord, I guess I have to
revisit that again.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Yeah, I did all right.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Movie top film, Hannibal, oh Ridley Scott movie, m h Yeah,
I know these something about like I'm going to eat
his brains with the cup of tea and fava beans.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Stop it. No, I could eat your liver with a
kiyanti or with fava beans and kanti or whatever he goes.
That's from Silence of the Lambs. Hannibal is just a
continuation of that, and of course continues Anthony Hopkins. And
the woman in this film is Julian Moore. I actually
saw this in the movie theater and I thought it
was good.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Yeah, I liked it too when I saw it, I
loved it. Julianne Moore in it.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
She's fabulous absolutely. All right. Well, let's get on with
this issue. We're doing X Men The Hidden Years, number seventeen.
It's written by John Byrne, art by John Byrne, Tom Palmer,
published February seventh of two thousand and one, titled Hunter
and Hunted Hunty.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
No, it's it.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Tea all right.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
So on the cover, we have a craven in the background.
He is a lurking in the trees. It's very shadowy
and dark. It's at night time. And in the foreground
we see Beast who is on alert waiting for Craving
to pop out.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yes, in the background we see Craven lurching in the trees,
knife in hand, wearing his iconic animal print wear and
lion vest. Very very dynamic. Mm hmm. I didn't realize
that this was called X Men The Hidden Years because
the Hidden Years is hidden by Craven's body.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Oh, you're right, he's got a lot of fur on
his jacket there.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
So well we open up, we get a big splash
page of beast standing in the trees and he is
thinking to himself about how he's got eyes on him
because he is being hunted by Craving the hunter.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
And I just have to mention that this is the
beast that is more human form as opposed to the
beast that we're more familiar with with the blue.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Fur al over, correct, Yes, this is the Hidden Years
take place. We should kind of maybe dial back a
little bit. What is the Hidden Years? Chris? How would
you describe that?
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I guess I would describe it as Marvel's attempt to
have an entry point for people into the X Men universe.
They just gave these stories that were interlaced into the
history and the canon of the x ME universe. But
X Men has been going around since what nineteen sixty three?
Mm hmmm, it's got to be hard to just jump in,
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you know what I mean? Yes, And I used to
watch soap operas, so this whole thing is very soap operatic.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Over the years, Yes, and so these hidden years are
particularly poised for that original five Silver Age era of comics,
and I I think they're supposed to land in the
canceled years. When X Men was canceled and it was
reprinting itself, there was this era where it would just
kept re releasing the same stories, but they kept the
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numbers kept going up. So I think John Byrne was like, Hey,
I want to fill in some of the gaps of
what happened in that time. So we have this story
of Craven the Hunter, hunting beast in the woods of
Xavier Institute. He is being hunted because there is this
bird like woman named Avilla who is dying slowly of
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a poison that Craven inflicted on her, and the only
way to heal her is to agree to this hunt
because we all know Craven loves a hunt.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yes he does. And there is a bunch of people
surrounding Avia who is on this medical table. We have
Lorna Dane, we have Cyclops, we have Iceman Jean Gray
and Havoc.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yes, and they they don't know if her status is
good or bad because she's an alien. So all all
of their technology is based around human vitals, so they
don't know. They just know that there's no change, so
therefore they think that's good news. We are I don't know,
I mean she are are bird people, so that's very possible. Hmm. Indeed,
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though I don't think that she have come into the
storyline at this point. You know, this is pre Phoenix saga.
So I'm gonna say no, We're back out in the
woods with Beasts, and he is bounding through the woods
and doing very much like Indiana Jones avoiding traps Temple
of Doom stuff, because there's spikes and various things trying
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to th whack him and partanging through the woods. Did
you get Indiana Jones vibes?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
And these traps are brutal, we got spikes, we got
you know, all these things. But you know what, it
doesn't matter, you know why, because Beast is exactly trained
for these types of things. It's true the danger room.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
M M.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
This is all this is is the danger room outdoors.
Let's take a fild trip correct.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
And then there is a net at one point, and
the net gets him and flams him against a tree,
and apparently in this sequence he gets poisoned, which we'll
get into a little bit later. Mm hm. But we
cut to a scene that I don't quite know. This
is obviously a harken back to the previous sixteen issues
(16:43):
of this book, because there's all sorts of people in
like a control room, including two like little children.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Well, let's just describe who these people are. We've got
a purple hair spiky you know, what is she like
a glam goth?
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Look?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, okay, yeah, Simon who was a little boy, but
it just so happens that he's actually a very old man.
He was born in nineteen forty five, y'all. But right, yes,
a week for every decade.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Usually I say multiple man as what I want my
mute empower to be. But in this moment, I think
I'm going to go into my era of saying that
it's this boy's power.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Oh wow, cool. Well, the other people. There's a guy
in like a black leather jacket with red hair. There
is a blonde woman with a green plaid pencil skirt,
and then there is this imposing brown suited gentleman with
gray hair. And the perspective that they've drawn him makes
(17:50):
him look like a giant. He looks absolutely huge, and
for some reason, I feel like that is not the
attent they were trying to drop perspective, and to mean,
I don't unless everybody's very tiny and he's just regular sized.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Well, it's a good thing that they built him an
extra large chair to match his body.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Yes, I guess so. But the one thing we learned
from the scene is that they are interested in Polaris.
They have somehow infiltrated her and cause to befuddle her.
And when we come back to the X mansion, we
see her in a state of distress and she's a
bit distracted, and she hears her name, but nobody in
(18:31):
the room said her name, so they have somehow infiltrated her.
Psyche dunt dun dunn, dun dum. They're like, Lorna, get
your head together. We've got to go help Beast, and
because they don't want to wait around in the mansion
any longer, and we cut to Beast back in the woods.
(18:54):
He's getting out of the net and we learn that
Craven is entering his pulse rate and his breath and
his blood. And he said that the various venoms with
which I charged each of the traps has now caused
him to kind of go off the rails, and that's
(19:15):
the effect he wanted. And he says, now, let Craven hunt, and.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
He looks very feral with the shadow figure silhouette, like
an animal himself, a lion.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Even, yes. And then we have a really funny scene
in Dunfe, Illinois where Xavier is chatting with a gentleman
I don't remember his name right now, Fred, Yeah, that's
his name, Fred with the FBI, I think. Anyways, but
(19:46):
what I love about this scene is that a woman
comes in and he, oh, his name is Fred Duncan.
Who's that.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Oh that's an old friend, a professor x and he
was the mentor to executioner. Oh wow, Well there's a
weird connection there, so.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Like a humanity type person seems. But anyways, what makes
us seem fun is that this woman kind of jets
in and she is talking to them a professor. She
wants to offer them coffee and donuts, and professor says
that he's fine. Ms Martin and she says, Terry, I
(20:32):
keep asking you to call me Terry Charles, and then
we get this little flirty moment between them.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
It's so weird and awkward. What is she like wearing?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Like?
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Who is she?
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Is this mystique in disguise? Is she infiltrating the mansion
right now?
Speaker 1 (20:49):
I don't know, but yes her. She's wearing a crop
top tied up work shirt, showing off her mid drift
and it looks like just jeans the belt, and she's
got kind of big librarian glasses on her.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
She kind of looks like she's worrying. The nineteen fifties
bra that makes your boots look like bombshells. Yes, so
this is the kind of thing that we're seeing here.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Yes, but anyways, call me Terry and he says, yes, Terry,
thank you. We shall be out directly. And she says, okay,
see you soon then, And what does Fred Duncan say?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Well, Charles, you old devil.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Wink wank wink, I know what a flirt? Xavier, it
is Terry. Who is this woman? I don't know. Back
in the woods, the X Men are going out there
to help be So it is Jeane, Psyclops, Polaris, Havoc,
(21:48):
and Iceman, but the team is at odds and Iceman
and Havoc are having words. So Jean Gray is telepathically
speaking to the team, and Havoc says, never gonna get
used to hearing Jean's voice in my head like that.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
And Bobby says reason number one, you'll never be a
real X Men Summers.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Ooh, and Alex hotly says, oh and like you'd know
all about that haunt Drake mister, I quit, but now
I'm back.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I'm only back for as long as my friend needs
my help, jerk. But before I go, maybe I can
find two minutes to push that fancy headdress of yours
down round your ankles.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Why wait for Rosty, I can spare the thirty seconds
it will take to stick a carrot up your nose.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
And then Psyklops jumps in Alex Bobby cut it out,
but Bobby replies, keep out of this psych The man
in black here may be your baby brother, but this
is strictly between.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Him and oh my head.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Jean Gray is eye blasting them into submission, oh boy,
and then cyclops them a stern talking to to knock
it off.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Well, Bobby's like, well, you guys are on your own then,
because I'm going off to help my friend. And then
they turned to Laura, who's looking the opposite direction, not
paying any attention to this fight that her boyfriend is having.
She's like off looking into the woods. She is so befuddled, pensive,
and they're like, Lorna, oh sorry what I was? I
(23:34):
I was.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
You were distracted something you cannot afford to be. Look, Laura,
if you don't feel up to this, maybe you should
go back to the house.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
And hey, back off, Scott. He SA's havoc. Lorna's handled
herself just fine since she joined. She doesn't need you
playing with playing little tin god with her.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Okay, okay, take it down a notch Alex, but stay alert, Lorna.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Yeah, stay alert exactly. Don't be off looking into the sky.
I feel Okay. We're back with Craven and Hank.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
And the chase is on and Craven is into trees. Well,
Hank is on the ground and he leaps out of
the tree and crashes into his back, causing him to fall,
and then the scuffle begins.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Yeah, we get like a wrestler moment of him lifting
up Beast above his head like ha haha.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Craven throws him across and then you know, I just
love Beast because of his acrobatic skills, and we get
to see panels of him, you know, doing gymnast moves,
cracks right down on a Craven's face.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
With a wob But the line that he reads in
this moment is pretty pretty fierce. Beast does this gymnastic
move by grabbing a branch, spinning himself around and flying
feet first at Craven's face. And he says, and since
I dare say, Spider Man never battered you with toads
(25:06):
of such profound proportion. And I love how he talks
about his feet anytime he can, Beast talks about his feet.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Can we talk about Beast's feet for a second, talk
about him? Okay, I know we live it in this
era where people are open about things that they like.
I just think that Beast could make a killing on
(25:37):
OnlyFans for feet.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
People, Oh indeed only feet, yes, indeed.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
But then you know this is a compook, This is
a reality. And the reality is Beasts has been trapesing
around outside in the dirt, in the mud, in the grass.
There might be death thing and spiders, indeed trash ah germs.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
But you know he's still got great feet. But Craven
gets a blow to the back of his neck causing
a pinched nerve and he loses the use of his
left arm completely.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
I'm calling Xena pinch right now because we don't really
like see the pinch.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
No, how we do.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
It's kind of like in the neck Yep. That's the
Xena pinch right exactly, get it with his elbow.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
But the thing about Beast is that he still has
three usable limbs, and his feet are so dexterious they're
just like hands, and so he is able to right
himself even with the loss of his arm, and with
his feet and his usable arm, he takes a vine
and is able to tie up Craven, but Craven does
(26:58):
not let that stop him because he is a whipset
a knife and cuts his way out of the vines.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
And then Havoc is searching through the woods for Lorna,
who has suddenly disappeared.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Just walked off her usual head in the clouds.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Mm hmm. Havoc didn't hear any sounds of any scuffles
or anything, but he's just kind of wondering if Craven
got to her or not. He looks up and he's
and he shouts Lorna, and then we cut to the
next scene. Yes, Jean Gray. I love this panel because
this is representing the psychic connection that she has inside
(27:35):
the brain of the other XI men. But we kind
of see the ghostly apparition of a head mind as
Cyclops and Iceman are kind of wading their way through
the tall grass. Now, this is inside of the Xavier's Institute, right, This.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Is the grounds of the Xavier Institute.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Yeah, are the Xavier School for the gifted youngsters? Rather correct,
they don't have a gardener.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
But this is like the wild woods in the back.
This is not the.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Like they have the wild woods in the back.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
I've always had the woods, I know, but I thought.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
You know, at least they would keep up their grounds
a little bit better.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Well, I think the grounds closer to the home is.
But this is like deep woods, like there's no neighbors
kind of woods.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Like on the property, but further out.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Correct, Okay, I see, yes, Yeah, so Gene is psychically
reporting to these guys, but she's also psychically reporting on
beasts mental state, and she's a little concerned because he
seems to be getting more and more aggravated, and as
Craven and He continue to tumble, he gets more and
(28:48):
more beastly in his emotions and everything. Craven is like, listen,
I'm going to win this fight because I have no hesitation.
I am willing to kill. And that's where you as
an X Men fail, because you know you're always trying
to do good. And he gets a slash into Beast's
chess with more venom, and Beast It, you know, speaks
(29:12):
about how the mounting miasma surrounding his brain is something
that he's that Craven has induced in his body. But
he is not going to back down, and like I said,
he gets more and more angry, and.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
We finally get a Gene saying Scott.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Exactly, Jeane, why aren't you using your tub dielepathy if
Craven is near enough to hear it, and She's like,
no time for subtlety. Now, dude has done something to Hank.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
We don't bust up that fight immediately. I'm afraid one
of Hank's greatest fears maybe realized. And Beast is like
out of control. He is Wolverine, berserker, rage worthy fighting Craven.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Yes, and I love how Craven's like, oh no, he's
not a good troll. I didn't know he had like
laser blast eyes out of his uh lion vest. But
he does a laser blast out of his vest to
get away, and then all of a sudden, Craven is
the hunted and Beast is the hunter, and he grabs
him by the ankle, swings him around, and his face
(30:21):
is looking more and more beastly.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Ooh, I love the reds there.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
That looks ferociously angry.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
And Cyclops has to put him down, he says, hank,
and he cha cows him with his optic blast and
then holds him and he's like, Beasts, you have to
stop fighting against my beam.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
So I believe that this is like set phasers to
stun level. Mm hmm yeah, because you know, I don't
think the laser beam would not go through if Cyclops
was going normal force.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Correct well, and and you know the debate of what
exactly the optic blast is. I think it's supposed to
be concussive force rather than heat laser. So it's like
as if somebody's pushing, you know, rather than hot.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Excuse me, it is a heat laser.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Chris, you're gonna have the Internet come after us. No,
we can't say that heat vision it's not like Superman's
heat vision.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Concussive force.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
I literally, I'm just discovering this right now.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Well, and with enough, you know, you can concussive force
your way through a wall of steel. You know, it
doesn't matter, you know the physics of it. You can
go through. But it does not melt things. It blasts
through things concussively.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Well, now that I think about, you're right, Oh my god,
my whole life is changing in this very moment.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Got my eyes are open, cancus of force.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
No cyclopes, don't open your eyes anyway. We have Bobby
taking down Craven who with his ice beam, and Craven
is just like, keep away from me.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
He's mad, insane, And they're able to capture Craven after
Beast's finally surrenders and he collapses and he's like, you.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Have to save everything, even from myself. So dramatic, so dramatic.
And we're back in the X mansion and he has
provided the antidote for a VS so she can recover
and Beasts can also recover from his venoms that are
in his body. And Gene is like, well, I'm going
(32:57):
to do what the professor would do. The situation, and
I'm going to just remove your memories that this ever
happened because I love to take away free will.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
Oh yeah, and she you know this is this is
the mechanism of course of why has Craven never remembered
that this fight happened and blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
So you know, that's how they're able to do things
from the past is through the trick of telepathy.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
But it works, and then Beast is just like, yeah,
I'm me too, I don't want to remember this.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Yeah, exactly, horrible exactly said hm hm.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
But the thing is Wolverine, in a comic book we read,
I believe, wanted to have those memories.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
I think Domino right, didn't she also want to have
those memories?
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Yes, yeah, in the Krakoa era when they would lose
part of their memory.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
So, you know, is Beast wrong in this moment or
is it just like, you know, different for everybody based
on their preference.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Probably different for everybody, you know, as long as it's
their choice and not just taken from them, you know,
without their choosing. But you know, if you wish to
not remember, and you have somebody with the ability to
help you forget then, you know.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Yeah, I guess it depends on the situation in my book.
You know, I think all the trauma, like nobody likes
trauma shit, But of all the stuff that I've experienced
in life, It's made me grow and and I think
I'm a better person for having survived experiences for sure.
So I think I'm more in line with uh Domino
(34:35):
and Wolverine on this one.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Yeah. Absolutely, I think memories are important. I don't think,
you know, they can should be taken away willy nilly
like Professor and Jane do whenever they feel like it.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
But maybe there are some things that we will want
to forget. In the Dark Phoenix movie, you.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Know, I didn't hate it. I did not hate it.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Oh it was off.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
I didn't hate it. I did not like Apocalypse. I
thought the Apocalypse movie was atrocious. The Dark Phoenix one
I didn't hate.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Come on, I was so out when they killed Mistike.
I'm sorry. It was just so throwaway, trash whatever, move
on to the next storyline.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Yeah, well, like really, that's because Jennifer Lopez or Jennifer
Lopez sorry, Jennifer Lawrence. Jennifer Lawrence was wanted out. She
just was so ton done with those movies.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Yeah, I they agreed that a little bit more exciting.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Agreed, agreed of course. Anyways, to finish off the issue
is that Hank, you know, debates getting the his memories
removed because he hates what the beast that he became.
And then Havoc runs in and goes, it's Laura. She's gone.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
She's gone, gone, says Bobby.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
She she floated up into the air. She floated up
and just drifted away. What that doesn't sound like she
was taken or that she shot up into the air
and she was nowhere to be seen. No, it just
sounded like she just was like bye, like Glinda in
her bubble, like floating up into the air. Abye.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Well, that's totally bonkers. And next we have what is
the promise?
Speaker 1 (36:24):
What is the promise? I don't know?
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Oh no, well, you know, maybe Havoc is going to
promise to find Laura and you know, use the nets
and try to catch her.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Well, good luck to him and that and that's our
story of X Men and Craven. So go see Craven
the Hunter.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Right, what's your favorite part of the issue.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Beast talking about his feet really yes.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
You know, I mean when Beast was able to like
do things with his feet, it all on that one page.
I'm just like, oh, he's very talented with those.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
I'm sure he can do things.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
I'm kind of like transported to the everything everywhere all
at once to mention.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
We're oh with their feet, Yes, yes, I'd love yes.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Yeah. I guess my favorite part would be the fight
between Havoc and Iceman because I was popping my popcorn.
I was just like, yeah, this is some good old
soap opa right here.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Yes, give it a brawl.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
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a future episode and maybe you'll hear what we thought
about Craving the Hunter. And also, I'm going to add
if you are a Craven the Hunter fan, make sure
you play the Spider Man two video game because he
(38:04):
is a batty baddy batty in that game and he's
very hot.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
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