You Can Overcome Anything: Ep 292 - Great Recession Awakening – John Ensley - You Can Overcome Anything! Podcast Show

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Anything partcast show. It is theirhost Caesar Espino and today I have a

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special guest. Is the leading financialplanning revolution to help to take back control
of your money, your lifestyle,and your retirment plan. He believes ordinary
financial plan is failing too many Americans. After losing almost everything during the Great
Recession, he became obsessed with findingsafe, creticable ways to save and create
wealth, protective from the chaos andcorruption of the conventional financial system. It

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is my pressure to introduce to youJohn Ansley. Hey, John, how
are you. I am doing awesome, Caesar, thanks for having me today.
I'm looking forward to the discussion.Yeah, definitely, thank you for
being here. So, John,why don't we start by telling me a
little bit about your upbringing and yourbackground. How was that for you?
Sure? So, I grew upin rural southern Oregon, kind of a

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country boy, living out in thewoods next to the Applegate River, and
so I spent you know, Itell people all the time that from my
perspective, I had a pretty idyllicchildhood, you know, stomping around the
rivers and mountains in southern Oregon andand doing all that kind of thing.
When I was growing up, Iwas, I think I was a young
adult before it I actually realized that, you know, we didn't have much

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grown up, you know, Butit didn't dawn on me until I like
got out in the world a littlebit and saw other people and other experiences
that that we grew up pretty prettysimply in southern Oregon. But again,
I had a kind of an amazingcountry boy kind of life grown up.
Yeah. Well, maybe perhaps oneof your biggest memories as a kid,

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that that looking back now has helpedyou be who you are now. Oh,
you bet so. I would sayindependence has always been a huge thing
for me. You know, I'vealways wanted to be that way. So
I tell the story often about,you know, when when I was a
kid, probably maybe twelve eleven,twelve years old, so my little brother

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would have been nine or ten.In the summertime. We lived not on
the Applegate River, but kind ofclose to it. It's a fairly small
river in southern Oregon. My dadwas a truck driver and he would bring
home these big inner tubes, thesebig truck tire tubes, and as kids,
my little brother and I would leavein the morning at you know,

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nine ten o'clock, and we wouldroll these inner tubes down the driveway about
a mile and a half down WilliamsHighway right a fairly significant highway across Williams
Highway through a working gravel pit withtrucks going everywhere, and to get to
the river, and we'd put themin the river and meet up with some

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friends there and we'd spend all daylong right floating down the river doing what
kids do, having mud fight,its through whatever, and then we'd go
roll these inner tubes back up theback up the highway, you know,
and home for dinner, you know, in the evening or whatever. And
of course this was back before thedays of cell phones or any of that,
so all mom knew is that wewere in the river, right,

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no idea anything else that was goingon. And I think about that story
a lot because it's it was such, in some ways, such a simple
time in the world where, youknow, my mom would probably be criticized
today for, you know, allowingher two young children to go float around
the river all day long. Butat the same time, I think it

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really bred and independence as I grewup that that it was, you know,
perfectly okay to go out in theworld and be responsible for myself.
That that was just normal. AndI think, I think, you know,
I think it really impressed upon meas I got older and older to
always be as independent as I possiblycould and just experience the adventure in life.

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No, that's good. So wewe grew up with this idea of
when I grew up, I wantto be fin and fire high lit police
officer. What was your dream?So as long as I can remember,
I was always going to be somesort of soldier, sailor pilot, something

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military oriented. It changed over theyears. Ultimately, after I got out
of high school, I went inthe army. Uh so I actually went
that direction. But even when Iwas, you know, young, I
read the book Showgun when I wasa preteen at some point, and so
I wanted to be a naval navigator, right like one of the characters in

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that book. So it was alwayssomething military and actually did end up going
to the military. Yeah, sothat's good. And not a lot of
people get to kind of fulfill thatthat that idea or that dream or or
you know, when I grew up, I wanted to be this or that
or get close to that. AndI do believe that that, well,
that's a dream and and and ourjourney or life can take us in different

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places. It also could be thatthe different challenges or obstacles that were put
in front of us might have mitigatedthe decision. And I always tell people
that we're just away from one decision, and the decisions and choices that we
make today will determine the quality oflight that we have tomorrow. And while
you know, sometimes we might makea decision that is not quite fit for

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what we're looking to get. Atthe end, we do have the choice
to pivot and make view decision.Except again, that is the challenge that
we're afraid to make another decision becausewe thought the first one right, and
we don't pivot fast enough to dothat. Yeah, we I think fear
of change is a thing that holdsus, holds us back, right,
we're just that unknown of you know, at least what we're doing. We

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know, we know it's going tobe stable, it's you know, whatever
the case may be. So we'reafraid of that change. But I've found
in my life that you know,with change comes usually better things. You
just got to embrace it and andgo after life with all you got.
How do you embrace that? Though? That's because I think it's true,
right, And and yet how doyou how do you embrace that? We're

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afraid of changing. We're so uh, you know, we're so comfortable being
comfortable, and we don't like tobe uncomfortable. We don't like to to
make different things, right, Sohow do you embrace something like that,
whatever that might be in life?So, you know, I think it
comes more naturally for some some peoplethan others. I'm very adventure oriented,

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so it's it's it's never been superdifficult for me to kind of change direction
and just embrace that adventure. Andyou know, some of those decisions work
out well, and some of thosedecisions don't. I always joke you've got
to love it all, right,the good, the bad, the the
indifferent. You just got to loveit all. So I think I think

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that would be you know, maybea piece of advice right is is just
keep yourself open to to the adventuretoo, to accepting what may or may
not come depending on those decisions.But whatever you do, just keep striving,
keep moving forward, keep reaching forthat better you. Yeah, definitely.

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So at which point did you getinvolved. Was it right after the
Army that you said, I wantto get into financials financing or that industry,
or how did that come about foryou? No, So I got
out of the Army and went towork for a company that was a government
contractor and they dealt with the collectionof defaulted student loans, and so I

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was in the right place at theright time. Really, I heard about
it from a friend of a friend. It was kind of actually kind of
funny. I jumped off a haytruck and blew out a knee and happened
to because I blew out the knee. I happened to be at a friend's
house and ran into a friend oftheirs who told me about this job opportunity,
and I should up at the guy'soffice with a big knee brace on

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and crutches. Yeah, and Ithink he found that kind of comical,
But anyway, I bugged him untilhe hired me. So I ended up
going to work for this company,and it turns out I was pretty good
at that, so I did quitewell there. And so I saw two
things. One is the build upto the tech bubble boom in two thousand.
So I was working for this companyat stock options and a lot of

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things going on there, and itwas super exciting. They were going to
do an IPO and we were allgoing to be wildly wealthy. And then,
of course, the tech bubble burstand the IPO never happened, and
so I kind of saw that wholething deflate. So that was a real
lesson. And then so I leftthat company. I had a little bit
of money and an employee stock ownershipplan, and I decided I was going

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to develop this subdivision, small subdivision, and so I'd moved to Southwest Washington
by then, and so I didthat. I started that project, and
we were going to build spec homeson each of these lots. And I
was about halfway through building the firstspec home when two thousand and eight rolled
around, and you know, Imade some bad decisions trying to save the

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project. That contributed, but theeconomics also contributed when the real estate bubble
burst and everything crashed. So Igot wiped out basically again. And that
was a wake up call after thetwo thousand and eight recession was a real
wake up call in that, Okay, what don't I know what's going on

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here? And that led me togo on what I call a journey of
self discovery and I just began devouringeverything I could. I could read a
lot of it about finance and money, but also just about life and you
know, finding myself and who Iwanted to be and the life I wanted
to design and so forth. Andso in the course of all of that

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study, I ran across a conceptcalled bank on yourself that had to do
with using properly structured life insurance contractinfinite banking bank on yourself yep. Similar,
similar concept, and I'd never heardanything like that before. In fact,
I hated the idea of life insurance, so you know, it wants
to be worth more doing jerybody does, which I don't understand exactly. I

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had that bad attitude, right,that was me back then, And then
I heard about this concept where itcould, you know, the life insurance
could be something more than just adeath benefit. It could be this living
thing that you could use to buildthis life. And I got super passionate
about it. I set up myown policies and started using it and realized,
like I've been to many financial advisorsand nobody had ever told me anything

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similar to this, and so Iwas kind of ready for a career change
at that point. So this wouldhave been like twenty ten or so,
and so I I did the studyingand got my license insurance licensing in Washington
State, and then did an infinitebanking agent training out in New York City
and a bank on yourself agent trainingand launched my financial practice in twenty twelve.

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As as a result of that passionI had around this concept. No
that that's huge and one of thethings that I see here is you know
again that you did, and Ithink it might have been through this journey
of yours. Right is take actionnow, right? And the best time
to do that it was twenty yearsago or today, right. So tell

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me a bit more about that,because I do believe that. Again,
part of it is we go throughlife and even even just just that you
know, you know the best timethat you can plan a three was twenty
years ago or today, right.We don't really sometimes we don't see the
fact that twenty years go by sofast? Right, or you know what
the think of an eye. It'slike, man, you know, like

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I look at my daughter and she'salready grown. I'm thinking I remember when
she was just born, except againby so fast. And a lot of
it is exactly that people have theidea of even a life insurance, right
know, to talk to somebody aboutlive insurance or or or things like that
is funny. How you can probablyrelate to this is funny. How people
definitely uh ensure their iPhone or theirphones or their cards and then to make

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sure they can replace that whatever onedoes dollar phone. Yet they don't ensure
their lives, right, And partof it is because people say I'll do
it tomorrow or I'll do it nextweek or next month or sometime in the
future, right, and then thatfuture never comes because then tomorrow comes like,
oh, yeah, you know what, let me do next week.
I got got a brain now,yes again, taking action now and and

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and recognizing that that right now isthe best time. Tell me more about
that, because I know that thatyou you build your life around that,
and obviously talking about you know,even live insurance and utilizing that as a
vehicle to have not just a livingbenefit I mean sorry, death benefit.
You have a living benefit and moreto it. Right, tell me more
about that. Absolutely happy to soyeah, you know, taking action I

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think is it's just you have toalways be willing to take action. When
I when I started this practice,I was leaving a very successful sales career
that I could have stayed in forthe rest of my days, but I
had zero passion for it. Iwas very good at the job, but
I could care less about what Iwas selling or you know, what I
was doing. It was just ajob and it paid well and had great

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benefits and blah blah blah, youknow, it was all It was all
good but yet I was less thanhappy because I was going getting up and
going to work and doing every daywhat needed to be done, but I
had no passion around it. Andso when I discovered this concept and I
got so passionate about it, I'mlike, you know what, I could
every day just help people with this, and I would love that, and

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I could be doing work I'm passionateabout. And so it was that that
motivation that caused me to take action. It was that hope, right,
is what it was to go fromfrom kind of an existence mentality to a
hopeful, passionate, actually helping peoplekind of mentality. They said, yeah,
I got to do this, butwell, guess what. I fell

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flat on my face right my firstyear doing this. I had a huge
misconceptions and I jumped into being youknow, self employed and being an entrepreneur
and doing all these things, andand I just, you know, it
fell flat on my face. Ihad to had to go back to a
job for a little while, andthen you know, a couple of years
and then I got going again.So you know, it's certainly once you

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made the Once I made the decisionto take action, it wasn't all ducks.
And bunnies at that point, youknow, So there was a learning
curve. But but I wouldn't changeit for the world. It was it
was absolutely the best decision, andit was it was It made it easier
for me to take action after havingthat experience, right because because once you

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live through, Okay, this didn'twork out the way I thought, But
guess what, it's okay. It'sokay if it didn't work out the way
I thought. So now taking actionis easier because I'm not so afraid of
of what failure might look like.Yeah, and and and part of that
too is I think what I'm hearingtoo is that you know you're utilizing that

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failure as a I always said failuresand educational experience. You're learning from that.
And when you know that that forfor us to be entrepreneurs, we
know we're going to have maybe wewant to call them failures, I call
them lessons. Now I don't callthem failures, except again, we know
we're going to have lessons in ourfailures through our journey. Except again,
that's what's going to help you becomebetter and greater at what you're doing because

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you're learning. It's a learning curve, whereas a lot of times at a
job, you know, you knowI as you I left a very good
paying job in my ninety five youknow, one, if you fail,
you're probably being reprimanded for that.It was not something good, right,
it was not perceived as something good, And so therefore he's like, no,

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I want to do the best Ican. Yet you're so focused on
that fail that you were not focusedon doing the right thing or doing the
best thing. Sometimes you get meanh for sure. So that's definitely that.
So you you've you've found this passion. Tell me a bit more about
how you're able to help people thatare are not educated, because you're right,

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the the financial aspect or the forone case, or all the different
things that might be good tools maynot be good tools after all when it
comes on to the baseline of whatreally the Americans need right now to to
have something not only when they die, also as they're living that living benefit,
right, Yeah, for sure.So the I think with life insurance,

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it's it's it's such a hard thingfor people to get their their minds
around because it's intangible. Right,None of us likes to think about our
mortality or the fact that you know, it's all going to end at some
point, right, there's only oneway off this, right, right,
and uh, and so we don'tlike to think about that. We avoid
it. And so it's easy whenyou think about using life insurance or having

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death benefit there to protect your familyand your assets and things like that,
that it's easy to just kind ofpush it to the back of your mind
because we don't want to think aboutit anyway. So that's part of it.
Is one of the things I tryto do with clients is is,
you know, help them think abouttheir mortality, to think about, what
do you want to happen? Ifright, God forbid, let's hope it

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doesn't, but if right, whatdo you what do you what would you
want to happen in that point,for your family, for your business,
for you know, So some ofthese things just to get that thought process
started. And then in terms ofyou know, so that's the death benefit
side of life insurance, which issuper important. But what I discovered before
you go to that, and letme ask you this, though, how

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do you overcome them? Because again, as you mentioned, people don't they
don't want to talk about it,they don't even want to think of that,
right, and so at what pointor is there a group age that
that is more aligned with that?Do you for somebody that's they're in their
third or forties before you speak tothem about it? Or do you start

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telling somebody at the ego of eighteennineteen twenty, right, like, how
do you approach that? Because again, I believe it's important, yet nobody
wants to talk about it. Sowhen is the right time to talk about
that? And then then as theyas you get them to understand that and
they start thinking about it, nowyou can start talking about the other stuff
that you were going to mention,right, Yeah, absolutely so, I
think I think any age, right, every age, we have to always

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maintain a awareness. We have tobe awake and maintain an awareness that this
earth just keeps turning. The Sun'sgonna rise and set and rise and set
and rise and set every day,and it clicks away faster than you realize.
Right. I'll do a little exercisewith people sometimes where you can go

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online and find a calculator and youcan calculate the days, hours, minutes
of a period of time. Right, So in a ninety year lifespan,
I have seven hundred and eighty somethousand hours. Right, I'm going to
be fifty five this year, whichblows my mind. Right, it seems
like I was in the army whenI was twenty years old just the other
day. And and but you can, you know, I basically I've used

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you know, about fifty eight percentof my time. Right. That's a
sobering thought when you think about itthat way. But that's important to think
about it that way. There's notime to waste, right that at least
it also kind of ties back totaking action, right, you just's there's
no time to waste. Every momentis precious. So so I think I

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think you can help people start thinkingabout it in those terms. And you
know, a little humor helps aswell. When you think about such a
such a could be a dark thing, right, It's like, okay,
you know you you you know there'sgoing to come an end, right,
right, you know that we don'tlive forever. Yeah, and see if
you can kind of lighten the mooda little bit with with a little humor,

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and then you know, tie thattie that in with hey, you
know this, this is how manyhours you got, yeah, in a
lifetime, or how many days you'vegot what are you going to do with
them? And what do you wantto happen with them when they're when they
expire? Yeah, because you can't. You can't make it, you can't
steal it, you can't manufacture it. Right, it's it is what it

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is. You can get less,but you probably can't get more, right
exactly right, right, right,Yeah, So that's the Obviously you got
people to understand the concept that's thedeath benefit of the insurance and talk about
this additional aspect that that really peopleA lot of people are blind by it.
They don't even know about it exactly. So now we're talking about the
the the idea behind bank on yourselfor infinite banking is building cash values within

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these policies that we can use now, right, And this comes directly back
to something a platform. And thisis the way I describe it as A
whole life insurance policy isn't an investment, right. A whole life insurance policy
is a it's a contract between youand a life insurance company. It establishes
a death benefit. And the natureof a whole life policy is it accumulates

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cash value, and it's what wecan do with those cash values. That
becomes a platform for investing. Sowe can borrow from these cash values or
more correctly against these cash values,to then make investments that produce cash flow
or that create this lifestyle that youwant to create, you know, whatever
the case may be. I usemy policies for all kinds of things.

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I've started businesses with them, I'vebuilt real estate projects with them, et
cetera, et cetera. So theinsurance policy itself is really a container for
cash. It's a place where Ihold cash that I can then use as
a platform to go out and makeinvestments that will In my case, I'm
always trying to produce cash flow.Yeah, and are you able to use

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that or borrow against or get moneyagainst the policy to do really just about
anything, whether it's you know,this have to be busy, or hey,
you know, I want to putmy kid on through college, or
maybe I want to give them akid you know. You know a European
trip is a cost ten thousand dollars. Yes, you can really use it

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for anything you want to. That'swe talk about safety, control and passive
income. Right, these are thethree concepts we focus on, and this
is the control piece, right,you're in complete control. As the policy
owner. You have the access toborrow against the value of your policy.
The insurance company is really using yourpolicy as collateral, and you're borrowing money
from the insurance company. You're basicallyan investment for them. We pay them

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a little bit of interest for thatloan, but much less than we would
pay through any conventional lender. Andthen we really can use that money for
anything we want. So we canuse it for investments, we can use
it for major purchases. We coulduse it for that ten thousand dollars European
trip for the college grad or reallyanything we want. The only caveat I

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always throughout is we have to bewhat I call being an honest banker.
Right, we have to pay ourloans back, and we have to be
prudent about it and be as responsiblewith that loan as we would be alone
from any other type of lending institutionthat we borrowed from, maybe even more
so because it's ours, it's ourmoney, gotcha. And then those those
that in terms of being able todo that that type of policy or investment

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for yourself, How does the workwhen it comes down to like is it
backed by the stock market. Soif the stock market fractions goes below zero,
right or is it always kind oflike no, So, yeah,
it's not tied to the stock marketat all. So the policy loan terms
are established by the insurance company.So the insurance company says, you have

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we'll just use round numbers. Youhave one hundred thousand dollars in this life
insurance policy. We will loan youninety thousand of it at any given point,
and this is the interest rate thatwe're going to charge you. And
it's a pemple interest rate that we'reonly going to apply once a year,
and that's important to how the calculationswork. And basically, other than that,
you can pay it back however youwant, however long you want,

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in any amount you want. Youcan start payments, stop payments, change
the amount. You're in complete controlover what you do with that. Now,
the great thing about that is,let's say we borrowed that ninety thousand,
and we put we put a downpayment, or we bought a rental
property with that with that ninety thousand, and then we take the rents coming
from that property and we pay thatloan back. The great thing is the

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title to that rental property right isnot encumbered by that loan. Okay,
the only thing collateralized is the policyitself. So if we found a property
that we could pay ninety thousand cashfor, we would hold title free and
clear to that property like we paidcash for it, right, and then
we pay our loan back to ourpolicy. Because we're going to be honest

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bankers. So we're going to payour loan back to our policy like we
would a bank. But we neverwe never the bank never owns our property
right, we own it. Sothat's a real key thing. Like buying
vehicles or anything like that, you'regoing to hold the title to that asset
even though you're financing it in effect, but you're doing it without a bank.

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You're doing it through your insurance policy. That's huge. That's definitely a
huge So I'm sure some people thatare listening to usmight have this question.
What if I in that scenario onehundred thousand dollars policy, I take ninety
thousand dollars to my whatever house,right, and within I don't know a
week or two, something happens tome and I die, Right, So

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I didn't get a chance to payback that policy. I passed. What
happens in that case do the deathbenefit? Death benefit becomes only the ten
thousand of the difference of that.No, so your death benefit is going
to be there's always leverage with deathbenefits. So because we have one hundred
thousand dollars policy doesn't mean we haveone hundred thousand dollars death benefit. So

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we could have one hundred thousand cashvalue on a policy and four hundred thousand
dollars in death benefit. Right,every policy is gonna be a little different.
So that's just an example. Sowe die, we borrowed the ninety
thousand, four hundred thousand dollars deathbenefit. The insurance company is going to
offset the ninety and the interest thatmight be due on that ninety out of

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that four hundred and so you knowyour family gets three hundred and some got
it after the loan's paid. Soessentially insurance company is using the death benefit
in the policy as collateral and thecash value in the policy as the limit
of what you can borrow. Gotit. Yeah, that's huge. So
in terms of them, are youonly licens in Washington State or you are

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you licensing in other states? Yeah? I can, I can do insurance
business in any state in the US. Most of my clients are sort of
Western states, but I have clientsin Texas and clients in New Jersey.
You know, so pretty much anystate I can I can operate in.
Got it okay? Cool? Soif people wanted to find out about more

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about this, the policies, howthey can create something, where can they
contact you? So the best wayto get in touch with me is at
a landing page that I have calledjump on with John Oka dot com.
Jump on with John dot com andyou can schedule a thirty minute strategy session
right in my calendar. That's whatI always recommend is have a conversation with

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someone like me. I'd be happyto be that person. And because this
is this, I always kind ofjoke a little bit. This can work
for anyone, but it's not necessarilyfor everyone, And so you don't want
to, you know, you wantto be careful that you don't get kind
of a salesy insurance agent who's tryingto force this down your throat or move
you too fast. And that's Ithink one of my my things in my

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practice, been doing this almost twelveyears now, is I don't push this
on people. I consider myself aneducator, not really a salesperson, So
I share everything I've got about howthis works and how it might fit.
But until somebody raises their hand andsays, yeah, this looks good to
me, you know, I'm notgoing to push it on them. So

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happy to have a conversation just tosee if it's the right fit and jump
on with John dot com is goingto be the easiest way to do that.
I know there's a lot of materialthat talks about that concept and things
like that. Is there a bookor something that you can recommend for people
to pick up and start reading sothey can kind of educate themselves on this,
because again, there's not a wholelot of education on this right in

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finance. Well there's a lot onYouTube, but you know, be careful
with that, right So I alwaysrecommend the Bank on Yourself Revolution by Pamela
Yellen. That's the number one recommendation. That book does a great job of
explaining it from a ten thousand footview, and then someone like me can
help you with the more detailed view. Becoming your Own Banker by Nelson Nash

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was the original that he wrote backin the late eighties and that's still available
out there as well. So thosetoo, I think would probably form the
best primer on the concept. Yep, that one right there, Yep,
Between those two, I think,I think that would be a great primer
on the concept. And then again, though I can't, I can't overstate

(30:15):
that the agent you end up workingwith is probably the most important piece.
That they've got your best interests inmind, and that they know how to
structure the policies, right, definitely, So I have a couple more questions
for you in terms of even justlearning this and doing that. I always
believe that people when they find aniche like yourself, you know, and

(30:36):
you say, Okay, I foundsomething that I really enjoy, I have
this purpose or something that I reallywant to impact people, because actually you're
not only not only are you havingfun with it, you're you're essentially impacting
many people's lives by educating them andhelping them have a better leverage and on
their money now through their living yearsand through their death benefit. Right.

(30:57):
Except again, I think a lotof that comes down to your way of
thinking, in your mindset, andthe habits and the and the structure and
discipline that you build. So whatkind of disciplines and or habits do you
have on a day to day basisto to get you up and running.
Great question. So I think nowadaysyou have to embrace technology, right.

(31:21):
You know. I I do alot of traveling. My other business is
a sailing school. I teach peopleto sale, so I'm always on the
road. Without technology, there's absolutelyno way I could do what I do.
So embracing technology is huge that andthat's everything from email to you know,
all of the virtual technology with camerasand microphones and so forth. But

(31:44):
it also comes down to I'm bigI used to in days gone by,
I'd use paper lists a lot,right, daily, weekly, just tasks
that need to be done. I'vemoved all of that's electronic now. Trello
is one I love for just tasklists and keeping my mind and keeping the

(32:06):
clutter out and staying focused on what'simportant, you know. And I've always
been a big list guy that way. But I think the technology is just
you got to embrace technology. Yeah, I love that. I love that.
My last question for you is forthe people that are watching us or
listening to us that might be goingto some challenge whatever challenge that might be,
what is one thing you can sayto them that they can start overcoming

(32:29):
that challenge. So I'm gonna saythis, and I say it to people
quite often that it's a little tonguein cheek, but and I literally say
this to myself all the time whenI start getting overwhelmed. It's all just
a hologram. Right, we canredesign that hologram any way we want it.
Right, we have our own Holodeck. It's our life, and

(32:50):
we can create any way we wantto create it. And sometimes we take
ourselves way too seriously. Right,we're operating in a reality that we actually
perceive. You've, you know,just a tiny fraction of So we really
got to give ourselves a break andrecognize that we can just create and recreate
it. Will Yeah, and backup, take a breath and recreate it.

(33:13):
I love them awesome. Well,definitely, I really appreciate you being
here, John, Thank you forall the insight, anything else you might
want to say before I let yougo. Now, let's just focus on
kind of where we started. Takeaction, right, take action, do
something, figure out what it is, and do it. Thanks for having
me, Caesar, it's been beena great time. Thank you, Thank

(33:36):
you John, and for the restof you guys, please make sure that
you shared this podcast. Somebody definitelyneeds to give this message and I'll see
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Thank you. Hi. I'm CaesarEspino, real estate investor, business coach
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says No. My number is fourtwo four five zero one six zero four

(33:58):
to six. In my book,I talk about making the necessary changes to
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