You Can Overcome Anything: Ep 293 - Overcoming Burnout and Learning to WIN the NOW – Eric Recker - You Can Overcome Anything! Podcast Show

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Are you looking for more out ofyour life? Do you need ideas on
how to start new businesses and howto move forward in your own personal life?
Well, guess what you have cometo a right radio show at You
Can Overcome Anything Podcast Show. Youare learning here from many people from all

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walks of life who are sharing theirchallenges, their stories, their habits and
the mind shifts they had to overcometo become who they are today. On
top you will get a chance toconnect and see how you can overcome anything
by networking and learning about your nextmove through this radio show. I present

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to you our great speakers at YouCan Overcome Anything Podcast Show with your host
Caesar. Is you know hellother?And welcome back to another episode of You
Can Overcome Anything Podcast Show. Itis your host Caesar Espino and today I

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have a special guest. He isa dentist, husband, father, Keino,
speaker, Eleait success coach, author, pilot, mountain climber and recovering
triathlete. In his second half oflife, he is committed to helping people
shorten the distance to becoming their bestversion and learning to win them Now.

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It is my pleasure to introduce toyou doctor Eric Record Hey, doctor,
how are you. I'm doing great, Caesars, thanks for having me good
good. Wow. You definitely havea lot of things going on for you
and have accomplished a lot, right. So before we dive into that,
though, tell me a bit alittle bit about your upbringing and where you're
originally from. Yeah. So,I grew up in a small town in

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Iowa, southeast of Des Moines calledPella. So if you've ever heard of
Pellow windows, that's us. Oneof my earliest memories was being on the
recess playground. And I don't knowabout you, but in our small town
in Iowa in the early eighties,recess kickball was life. Being able to

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play kickball on the recess playground wasa big deal. And I experienced some
experience some bullying when I was growingup. So I was told that I
wasn't good enough and that I couldn'tplay. Would have been one thing if
I was told that I was goingto be picked last, But when I
was told I couldn't play at all, that was devastating and it happened a

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lot. And so I remember whenI was in third grade standing on the
sideline of that recess kickball field andI made a pact with myself and I
said, I am going to beso freaking good at everything that I ever
do that nobody will ever not pickme. So that's kind of the basis
for where my journey of overcompensating andnot believing that I was good enough kind

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of started. You know, it'sinteresting that you mentioned that the fact that
sometimes you know, while it isnot the is not a good thing or
is definitely not what we expect orwant. It's interesting how sometimes you know,
in your case, because somebody didn'tbelieve in you or or or x
y Z reason that they just didn'tthink you can make it, that actually

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empower you, right as you mentionedto to be able to say, you
know what, because of that,thanks uh And while maybe I've been being
bully and I'm going through all ofthis and I'm definitely learning some lessons thanks
to that, it really gave youthe ammunition or empowerment to be able to
say, you know what, I'mnot gonna not gonna let this happen again.
I'm going to prove not only them, I'm going to prove myself that

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I'm better than that. Where doyou think that came about? Because obviously,
as you know, there's two kindsof people, right. There's the
ones that utilize that and and andand that feel to be able to say,
you know what, yeah, I'mgoing to improve them or other on
the other hand, will really affectthem and they stay down right yeah,

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and you nailed it. That's thesplit. You choose one of two ways.
I don't think anybody just goes inthe middle. It's either I'm going
to go hard or I'm not goingto go at all. And I went
hard. The problem is is Iway overcompensated when I went hard. So
I did running all the way throughmarathon. I did triafon all the way
through Iron Man, climbing mountains,all of this still trying to prove to

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those bullies that I was good enough. I didn't realize that's what I was
doing, but that's what I wasdoing. I was trying to prove to
those people that I was good enough. And it took really just about crashing
and burning with burnout. I hadall the stuff. I had, the
chest pain, heart palpitations, panicattacks. I had all of that.

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And I realized if I didn't getthis rained in, if I didn't understand
what was behind this, then Iwas going to become a statistic and I
did not want to become a statisticfor my family. I love my family.
I want to spend as much timewith them as I can be.
Something had to change. Yeah,talking about that, even the fact that
you went out and did all ofthis to try to prove to you know,

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the bullies seeing it now the wayyou see it now, do you
think that you are actually doing thatto prove them or you're doing that to
prove yourself right? And actually throughthat through that journey, yeah, I
think it was a little bit ofboth. It's only been within maybe the
last five years of my life thatI've realized what I was trying to do,
how I was trying to prove everybodyright. And I just started to

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wrap my head around the fact thatif everybody kept saying, oh, man,
you're crazy, Why are you doingall this stuff? Man, it's
so much. I started to realizethat it was a lot, and maybe
I didn't need all of those thingsto help define me, to help solidify
my identity. I saw my identityin what I had achieved, and while

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that's not all bad, it's badif it's the main part of your identity.
And I think we get in troublewhen we put all of our identity
into one part of who we are. I'm a dentist, that's one thing
that I do. I'm a speakerand coach and author. Those are other

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things that I do, all thoseother things that I've experienced. But I'm
also a husband, I'm a father, I'm a friend, I'm a lot
of those different things. And Ithink one thing is that we're really struggling
with in society is we pick onepart of our life and we put all
of our identity into that, andwhen something's not going right with that,
then then everything is off in ourlives. But if we live more of

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a balanced life, where we understandthat we are the sum of a lot
of parts and we make sure thatthose parts are in a good place,
then we're much more likely to besuccessful and to feel fulfilled. Yeah,
talking about balance, and that's youknow, it can go multiple different ways.
And obviously that that is a hugething. And you always hear the

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idea of working life balance or personaland professional life balance. So I didn't
be able to get that. Howdo you go about finding that balance?
Number One number two. You talkedabout all these different things that you have
going on, right, dentist,authors, speaker, coach, all these
different things, did you do?You have to find and or focus on

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all the things you're doing that they'reall kind of intertwined, so that the
is a much easier balance to handle, you know, versus doing things from
all different angles that maybe they havenothing nor religion between one or the other.
Yeah. One of the things Inoticed is when I was so busy
with all of that stuff and inthe busiest season when burnout was when I

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first noticed that I had a problemwith burnout. I had just bought my
dental practice for my father. Iwas building a new dental clinic for us
to practice in, and that wasall on me. I was training for
two iron Man triathlons, I wascoaching both of my kids in soccer,
and I was on five boards allat the same time. And just like
the frog in the boiling pot ofwater, who got in there when it

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was nice and cool, and thenthe temperature slowly ramped up as these things
kept adding, I didn't realize thatit was too much until it was too
much. And so my life waskind of this choreographed dance or this chess
game of how do I move thepieces around so everything fits together so that
I can make everything work. Sothere wasn't really any balance. There wasn't

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any It was my whole life wasout of balance. And a lot of
times I found that I was borrowingmy extra time from sleep, which is
a terrible thing to do, andso I ended up I was probably sleeping
five hours a night, maybe sixsome nights. But when I was home,
I wasn't really there. I wasthinking about the other things I had

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to do, and when I wasdoing other things, I was thinking about
how I wasn't doing my best athome. So the problem was I was
I was rarely in the same placemind and body, and that's where I
really got in trouble. Yeah,it reminds me of Jim Brown talking about
doing a speech. He talked about, you know, while I'm on work,
I'm thinking of vacation, vacation,so I'm not focused with work when

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I'm at you know, or goingto the beach or something like that.
And then I'm at the beach oron vacation and I'm thinking about work would
work, and I'm not focused there, right and that happens a lot,
right, I mean a lot oftimes we're in the society where you know,
we're driven by different external factors,and based on that, you know,
we tend to reduce our focus.Tell me about the So I have

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heard my notes and I love this. And you said you have the burds
of living their lives, living yourlife in the present moment, right,
and I know this part of thejourney that you're talking about that you kind
of recognize that. Tell me moreabout that and his meaning, because I
think that's huge. Yeah. So, I think most people, if they're

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honest with themselves, they are eitherstuck in the past or worried about the
future. Most of the time intheir life, something in their past continues
to haunt them. They give itbandwidth and they don't deal with it and
it's there. Or we're worried aboutthe future, we're worried about tomorrow,
we're worried about a relationship, We'reworried about all of these things. And

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when we're in one of those twoplaces, we miss the most important thing,
and that's the now, that's themoment right in front of us.
And the more time that we spendapart from the now, the more we're
going to struggle. And I've seenthat in my life. I've seen it
play out countless times. And eventhough I'm learning this concept of living my
life in the now, I stilldrift. I still have to have those

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those boundaries on the side of theroad that if I bump my car into
them, they kind of steer meback into the middle of the path.
I need to know what those guardrailsare. So that's where the concept of
when the now came from. Andit's a way to live our life in
the present moment and also a wayto grab wins in those moments. So

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first thing I coach people to dois to break your life down into what
are the different now moments in yourlife? So right now, for this
forty five minutes to an hour,Caesar, mine now is hanging out with
you. And what does a winlook like? In that It looks like
us having a great conversation, addingvalue to your listeners, giving people some

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hope when they're feeling stuck, helpingpeople believe that here's another thing that they
can overcome. That's what a winlooks like. Later today, I have
a couple coaching clients that I'm goingto meet with, and during that time,
a win for me looks like beinga great listener, reflecting back to
them what's going on, helping themon their journey, helping them move forward.

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Later tonight, my son is cominghome from college, and my wife
and my son and I are goingto be sitting together at the dinner table.
What does a win look like duringthat time, Well, it looks
like our phones are in our pockets, We're asking good questions to each other,
We're experiencing time with each other,we're sharing a meal. I think
being around a dinner table is oneof the most It's one of the best

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simple pleasures that we get because weget to engage all five of our senses.
How can we be present and doall of that instead of worrying about
what work looks like, looks liketomorrow, the bad things that happened at
work today. So it's just amindset to try to get you into that
moment. And it all starts withawareness that a lot of the times were
not there. Yeah, I likewhat you mentioned, and I like the

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idea of being pressing and being inthe now moment. And one of the
things that I've learned myself too,is that, as you mentioned, we
tend to either be too much onthe past and we keep going back to
that story. And while I'm nota relationship coach, I always said,
the best reallylationship advice that I cangive you is make sure that you don't

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cheat on your future with your past, because oftentimes we're you know, on
that idea, right, We're thinkingso much about a past that while we're
doing that, we forget about beingin this present moment that we know that
whatever we do today is going toimpact art tomorrow. Right. And so
again for me, one of thethings that I've learned is, well,

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the past is important in many differentelements. All we can do, though,
is be able to look at,Okay, what took place? What
are the is an educational experience?Right? What kind of lessons can I
extract from that so that I don'tdo it again, or if one will,
I can do more of that,right, and really hone in on
that idea. And then, asyou mentioned, I like the idea of
depressing now, right because I dobelieve that as we're doing this interview,

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as we're talking, I also believethat our today will determine the quality of
life that we have tomorrow, andthat's based on the decisions and choices that
we make today. That and nowmoment challenges though, is that people unfortunately
are afraid to make that choice orare afraid to make that decision. And
even if they make that decision,I believe that the second challenge to that

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is that they probably don't recognize orconsciously don't not recognize that they can if
they felt like they made a wrongdecision, consciously, they can pivot and
make a new decision instead of gettingstuck with that decision. Right. And
so there's a couple of different thingsthat that that that's going on in our
society right now with all of thosedifferent things and elements talking about winning the

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now or you know, in thein the moment now, do you visualize
or do you try to you know, obviously you gave me like for instance,
all your your day to day you'rekind of already seeing where you want
to be. What are you gonnado on this podcast, your coaching clients,
your family, like you have thiskind of laid out. Do you
do that like every morning, youknow, to try to kind of paint

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the picture for your day to dayor how does that go about for you?
Yeah, that's a great question.So I like to a lot of
times on Sunday. I like tokind of map out my week so when
I can try to realize, Okay, here's where I'm going to have discretionary
time, here's where I have scheduledtime, and here's the things I need

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to get done. Okay, I'mgoing to try to put these in these
places. Now, other urgencies areprobably going to come up and that's going
to get shuffled around. But Ilike to have kind of a framework to
look at, like for today,this is my day today. I have
it on a big legal pad pieceof paper. All the meetings. I
have a couple details for each ofthose meetings, because I don't want to

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do you a disservice and come inhere blind to Okay, who is this
I'm meeting with and what's their podcastabout. I like to be able to
do that. And this morning Ilooked over everything one more time for what
I had planned out, and therewere a couple things that had to shuffle
around. I had one meeting thatsomebody had to reschedule, and you know,

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I could mourn that but now Ilook at that as Wow, I
was not going to have that time. Now I have that time. Here's
my list of priorities that I needto get taken care of, and I
just take one of those and slideit right into that time, and that
time is going to be super productiveinstead of oh man, what do I
do at the time? Oh,what's on Facebook? What's on LinkedIn?

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What's on all of that, whichis default what we do most of the
time. Yeah, and talking aboutthat when you were talking about also having
the moment with your family and sittingon the table the phones put away,
I love that. I mean,I wish we can do more of that,
and I do believe that that's criticalbecause I think that we've lost the
element of human connection or being ableto, as you mentioned, utilizing all

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of our senses and be connected,being connected oftentimes. I feel now that
you know, it's funny, youknow, I go to a restaurant and
I see this family sitting around thetable, and everybody in that family,
for the most part, are andon their phone, you know whatever,
whether they're playing you know, messgame, so they're on social media or

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texting. They're not plugged in,right and I think that we'd last a
little bit of that element. Uh. And so what would be an advice
that you can give in terms ofthat, because I think that's huge and
I know we're in a very rapid, you know, social media world type
of aspect, and and and andthe art technology has advanced a lot in
the last thirty forty years. Iremember growing up as a kid, you

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know, like if I wanted togo play with my friends, it was
an Xbox or any of that is, like go out and play soccer or
go out into the park or somethingright, and it were you know,
that also creates, in my opinion, isolation and people do not know how
to have social skills and and thatkind of stuff. So what would be
your advice for people that again maybeare listening to that and they need some

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tips in terms of that. Yeah, it's tough because we just COVID still
really fresh in our mind, andCOVID taught that other people are toxic.
We have to stay away from otherpeople. The reality is that we're better
together, we are better in relationships, and we have bought the lie that
we are more connected because of socialmedia. Yes, we can stay in

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touch with more people, but weare not more connected. There isn't anything
that can happen on social media thatbeats a coffee time with a friend.
There's nothing on social media that beatsa one on one conversation. I'm going
to struggle to find anything on socialmedia that can compete with the conversation that
we're having right now, Caesar,this is where the action is in the

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present moment, and so one ofthe things, especially when we're around our
family, when we're around our people, when we're around opportunities to have conversations,
and the phone is in our pockets, and it seems like if we
get five seconds of even maybe eventhree seconds of a little bit of lull
or boredom, we're reaching for thatphone right away. I would encourage people

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to just ask why am I pickingthis up? Just having that one guardrail
on their phone time? Why amI picking this up? What's the purpose
of having the phone? Are youjust going to pick it up and have
it be your digital pacifier? Youjust need a little dopamine, you're feeling
a little uneasy, you just needto calm down a little bit. Is
that what it's for or is therea purpose? Oh, I'm trying to

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specifically look this up or send thisreply or whatever you're trying to do.
So I like to put that guardrailon, and I like to try to
have at least one meaningful connection witha friend or a new connection every single
week. So this morning I hadtwo thirty minute connection calls where it was

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people that I didn't know, butare paths have crossed virtually a couple times.
I said, Hey, why don'twe just get together for a virtual
coffee for thirty minutes? And man, it was amazing how that started the
day off, just being able todo that. So I think we have
to find ways to get human connectionback into our lives. Yeah, no,
I love that. That's huge.Tell me about how you came about

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or so you're a a dentist,you bought that practice from you from your
father. How did the coaching cometo play into your life? Yeah,
so I got within about two monthsof selling my dental practice and walking away
because the burnout was so bad Ihad. I had one time where I
was on the floor in the serverroom in our office where the computers are,

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and I was just having a panicattack on the floor. I was
paralyzed and I was thirty minutes behindin my schedule, and I had five
hygienas waiting for me for checks,and it was only nine thirty in the
morning, and I had to dragmyself up off the ground. There's a

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there's a song by one of myfavorite groups called switch Foot, and one
of the lines in there is Idare you to pick yourself up off the
ground, And that line struck me. I'm like, I got to I
don't care how bad this is rightnow, I just have to do this.
And so what I was trying todo is I was trying to go

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around the burnout selling my practice,and walking away would have just been going
around the problem. It would havemet me wherever I ended up being.
And so when it didn't work outto sell my practice, because my associate
who was going to buy it forme was in a horrific car accident,
we weren't able to complete that transaction. So I had to pivot and I

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had to decide, Okay, whatdo I want to do with this life?
I'm here now, how can Imake the best of it? So
now I have a partner in mypractice. He bought half my practice.
Were fifty to fifty partners, andpart of the deal with that was,
as soon as he bought the practice, I was going to start seeing patients

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three days a week and then onthe other days, I was going to
use this volume of experience that I'vehad in my life and help walk with
other people on their journeys, becauseI don't want to get to the end
of my life and be on mydeathbed and have a regret that I didn't
share the lessons that I've learned inmy journey with other people. Yeah.

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No, that's huge. So you'rebeing coached by somebody at one point,
and then that's where you decided,like, I want to do this and
do the same thing and impact otherpeople's lives exactly, because I think there
are a ton of people, there'sprobably a lot of people who are even
listening to your podcasts who are strugglingwith some level of burnout, some level

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of disillusionment, a level of boy, I'm here, I don't know why
I am here, I don't knowwhat I'm doing, but it doesn't make
any sense and I need some help. I love to meet people in that
space, help get some things figuredout, and get people on a track
where they're living a life that theydon't feel like they need to wake up
from it. Yeah, for sure. Let's talk about your book. How

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did that come about? Yeah,so the book came about when COVID hit.
I was I had to close mydental practice. I was uncharted territory
for me. I was. Ihad never been really good with discretionary time
because all my time was always scheduledby the fifteen minute. It was just
just like that, moved down theschedule. That's how my days went.

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So I had something that was uncommonfor me, and that was discretionary time.
So I made a deal with myselfthat until my dental practice opened,
I would spend thirty minutes in quietevery single day. And I crashed and
burned the first couple days. Thefirst day, I thought, man,

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I got to be getting close.I looked at my watch and I was
literally forty six seconds into my thirtyminutes. Wow. Yeah, So it
took a long time to get intothat. But I would set an alarm,
I would focus on breathing, andI would just spend time in quiet,
And from there I started journaling alot. That quiet led to much

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more productive thoughts than what I hadhad when I was always zoned out.
So I created that space that allowedme to have some thoughts, and I
started journaling, and then the journalingled to thinking of a term called the
false sense of urgency. And whatthat false sense of urgency is is it's

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like a background app in our brain. So we all have apps that are
running on our phone all the time. You know, we swipe up to
clear them out, but this appis always running in our brains. And
what the false sense of urgency tellsus is that we can't sit still.
All our time has to be productive. Everything we do has to be accounted
for, and it all has tohave meaning. And the reality is is

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sometimes we just need time to rest. Sometimes we just need time to relax,
to recharge, and so we haveto figure out how to quiet down
that false sense of urgency app that'srunning in our minds. And so that's
what the book is about. Andthe biggest antecdote to the false sense of
urgency because it's always dealing with theterm should if we get ourselves back in

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the present, we don't have toworry as much about that. We can
be more focused on what's right infront of us and it talks about a
bunch of different practices to help keepus in the moment and ways to become
better versions of ourselves. Yeah.I love that, and I love the
idea or the fact that you implementedthis habit right and or, like Johnny

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Robbins referred to as rituals, right, or you created something for yourself.
Would you say that even just satin the thirty minutes side was your original
intention just to kind of be ina quiet mode in them from their things
ideas came about like that, thatquiet time led to you, Okay,
now I got a journal, NowI gotta you know, and your mind

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started, you know, being moreclear and focus in terms of some of
the things you wanted to do inthat space. Yeah, that's that's completely
what happened. And I think onething that we're really not doing well is
creating white space for our brain.Our brain needs time to reboot, Our
brain needs quiet. Used to beif you were at a stoplight and it

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turned red, you didn't have anythingelse to do until it turned green,
But just kind of sit there.You might be listening to music, you
might have whatever going on. Nowour phones are right there when we're waiting
in line to check out at thegrocery store. Our phones are right there,
so we don't have any of thispause time. We don't have any
of this white space time. Sowhen COVID hit Man, it was death

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by webinar. We didn't do awhole lot was zoom before then. But
I could have listened to dental webinarsabout reopening our office. Infection Control New
Regulations PPP loans thirty seven hours aday if I wanted to. So I
knew that there was going to bea lot of noise and I needed to
create some anti noise, some quietspace. Yeah, yeah, I know

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that that's huge. And so sincewe're in that other habits or daily routines,
do you have right now throughout theyears that you've implemented, what are
your daily to do? So yeah, so thirty minutes right now in this
season is just a little bit morethan what I can swing. So I'm
shooting for fifteen, and I'm shootingfor fifteen first thing in the morning.

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So it's not I roll out ofbed and I'm right on the social media.
It's that first fruits of the day, that first fifteen minutes to just
kind of let my brain kind ofcatch up with the start of the day
before I get into everything else.So that's a huge one. I'm trying
to journal as much as possible,even if it's just a few sentences each
day, about what I'm feeling,what I'm observing, trying to practice gratitude

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as much as possible, being inThe more we're in the present, more
moment, the more gratitude flows.So those are a couple of the things.
I'm also just trying to move alot. I'm trying to get outside
and move We had a really mildwinter in Iowa, so I was able

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to be outside in more days thannot. And the supplement industry is trying
to come up with a pill thatwe can take that's better than thirty minutes
of movement outside, and I don'tthink they're going to be able to crack
it. So it's just some ofthose simple things that I'm trying to do.
They're not complicated, they're not new, they're not rocket science, but

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they are setting an intention to notjust be controlled by our devices all day.
Yeah, that's huge. Do youhave any new books coming up anytime
sooner or what are the next thingsfor you? Yeah, I have a
new book that's actually coming out Apriltwelve, and it's called that Damn Analogy.

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So what it's all about is basically, our bodies are like a dam,
and what a dam does is basicallyfor flood control and water flows through
it. There's a lake and thena river on the other side. So
our goal as the dam is toregulate that flow of energy that goes through
us. We're really good at theoutflow part. We always we always have

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plenty of outflow. What we're terribleat is the inflow part. So it's
just becoming aware of the problem ofwhat we're doing and how we're not taking
care of ourselves. Talks a lotabout my burnout journey, but really there's
some great strategies in there for howto fill up, how to refill,
to make it so we're not constantlyrunning on empty. Yeah. I love

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that. What kind of people doyou work with when it comes up to
your coaching business? Yeah, soI work with high achievers, and I'm
guessing most of the people that arelistening to this podcast would label themselves as
high achievers. If you don't wantto label yourself as that, you're listening
to a podcast to help you tryto become a better version of yourself.

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Sorry, you're a high achiever.But I mostly work with people who are
trying to figure out what's next inlife. Maybe they don't know their purpose,
maybe they're stuck where they're at,and really what they need is some
hope and a plan to move forward. So I meet people right where they're
at, We figure out where they'reat, talk about we do some visioning

(30:30):
exercises, talk about some hopes anddreams, and then we try to tailor
a life that meets those goals.And ultimately I want people to have hope
and belief that good days are ahead. That's my goal. I love that,
and do you. I'm assuming thatthe coaching is a more tailor and

(30:52):
specialize on a person by person basis, in terumps with a length or you
know, is that how you kindof do them? Yeah. I usually
work with people in three month increments, so we can start out at three
months, we can extend it outwhatever works best. I have some people
that are kind of on retainer withme that we've been working together for a

(31:14):
couple of years and they just wantsomebody for a monthly check in and I'm
happy, happy to be that personand some of my coaching packages that I
really really like. It's a tonof fun. After we've been working together,
we meet together in Park City,Utah and do some experiential stuff that's
super fun in the mountains out theretoo, So that's another thing that we

(31:36):
get to do every once in awhile, and that's a ton of fun.
That's a huge Yeah, definitely enjoythat. You know. I like
the fact that you're having that twistto that because just as you're trying to
help somebody with their vision and maybetrying to throw out what they're trying to
do or maybe go to the nextlevel or do any of that stuff,

(31:56):
it's good that you're able to implementand help people to understand the balance.
As you were talking about, thatbalance of being able to do these different
things and it is okay. Youknow, oftentimes we're working, you know,
if you have nine to five,and not that I'm not getting nine
to five for those that are havingnine to five, you know, oftentimes
we're like, yeah, I'm justworking enough so I can have enough you
know whatever a week or two forvacation or I want to work in so

(32:20):
I can retire. And I knowfor me, I was also burned out
big time when I was in myninety five and one of the things that
I realize is that rather than waitingfor you know, two or three years
to go by so that I canaccumulate enough time to take you know,
a couple of days of vacation,or rather than working a lot of hours
so that I can retire, youknow whatever. Age. I've read this

(32:42):
someplace and it's like, what aboutyou start taking you know, meanifications throughout
your life. And those menifications couldbe again, it could be a walk
at the park over the weekend,you know, or going to a leg
or or it doesn't have to beanything expensive. It's not like going to
Europe. You know. Obviously youwant to have those strips too, but
it's not like you're gonna do thatevery good month. Is taking small increments
of minifications throughout your life, throughoutyour you know, the year, so

(33:07):
that you can enjoy live and havethat balance because at the end of the
day, we are here today andwe are gone tomorrow, and we don't
know when is going to be ourlast day, and so we're waiting for
that moment. We're waiting for thatthat day to get here. You may
never get here, So why don'twe enjoy that? And that's going to
be not only serving us in manyways, is going to help our life

(33:28):
in many different ways. So Ithink what you said is brilliant, Caesar.
And one of the things that I'vebeen able to do in my dental
practice is kind of do research ona lot of this stuff over the years.
So I had a patient that toldme when I started practicing, he
said, man, twelve more yearsand I get a retire And I said,
okay, what do you get andwhat are you going to do?
Then? Well, then we're goingto travel. I said, well how

(33:51):
about now, because I you know, I was twenty five years old when
I started practicing. I didn't knowall this stuff. Said, so,
what are you doing in the meantimeor just saving up money? We can
travel? I'd said, well,don't you want to have some experiences before
then? Nope, I got toget to retirement, then we're going to
travel. Well, unfortunately, hiswife got sick right about the time when
they were going to start traveling.They never got to do any of their

(34:14):
traveling, and it really broke myheart and I thought, Okay, how
can I communicate this to people?Because some people that ultimate trip is a
two week Alaska vacation. Let's callthat like the ultimate trip that they're going
to take some day. Well,how can we scale that to help meet
our needs right now? Maybe Ican't do the two week Alaska trip.

(34:35):
Maybe I can do a one weektrip to Montana, to Glacier National Park
or something like this, not quiteas long. Okay, I can't do
that. Okay. Can I goto the mountains for a weekend? Okay?
Maybe I can do four days inthe mountains. Now I can't do
that. Okay, Maybe I cando a day trip, or I just
go somewhere and stay overnight and havesome fun with that. Okay, I

(34:57):
don't even have that. Maybe Ijust have a few hours. What can
I do in that time? Sohow can we take, just like you
talked about, those smaller moments oftime and maximize those so that we get
some more enjoyment out of life.Because if all we're doing is hanging waiting
for this carrot that's at the endof our work journey, man, we're
not guaranteed that we don't know that'sever gonna come. Yeah, No,

(35:20):
for sure. Definitely. Where canpeople find out more about you and or
connect with you about your coaching,your book, any of the studdy you
have going on. Yeah, sohome base for me is my website.
It's just ericrecord dot com. There'sinformation in there about speaking, coaching,
my books, and I did throwa couple of freebies in there. There's

(35:45):
a I put out a newsletter.It's called three Ways to Win, and
I give people three every other week. It comes out Three Ways to grab
easy wins in your life, andthen also a five day knockback Burnout Challenge.
It's an easy way to raise yourhand without anybody seeing it and say,

(36:06):
hey, I think I'm feeling alittle bit burned out. I want
to see what the first couple stepsI can take towards that are. You
can grab that. It's just aseries of a few emails and it helps
maybe be one step where you canstart to push back that hold on burnout.
I'm a very relational person. Iwould love to have a conversation,
So if anybody's thinking about reaching out, I'd love to have a conversation.

(36:30):
Definitely make sure we do that.In terms of the people that are listening
to us and are watching us.If they're going through any challenge, whatever
challenge that might be, what isone thing or a couple of things that
they can start doing to start overcomingthat challenge. Yeah. I like to
think about life in terms of mountainsbecause I've climbed a few mountains look really

(36:52):
really big, and sometimes we stayoff them because they seem really really big.
But the only way I ever climbthose mountains was by taking one small
but significant step. So I encouragepeople when they're facing challenges. Don't look
at the top, don't look atthe summit of the mountain. Look at
what's the first step I can taketo get on the mountain to start working

(37:14):
on that. And with every stepyou take, that summit is closer and
closer. So the mountains look reallybig as long as we stay off them,
but once we're on them, we'restarted. So what is one step
that you can take. It doesn'thave to be big, but it has
to be significant. Take that firststep. Yeah, I like that little

(37:35):
little steps would definitely lead you toconquering that mountain. And that's probably the
challenge, right, And that's alsopart of the challenge that we'ren't in a
place of fast space, and wewant to be able to get there yesterday.
And you always heard that idea ofthe overnight success without realizing that there
was a lot of steps in between. And as many people might think,
and I think it's true, issometimes it's not. The destination is really

(37:59):
experience is and the lessons that you'relearning throughout the journey, right, that's
going to get you to that finaldestination. Yeah. I get so sick
of people talking about life as amarathon or a sprint, because both of
those are races, and I don'twant to race through life. I just
don't. I think life is aquest, a journey. It's one of

(38:19):
those things that should be this epicadventure. And if it's not, then
we probably need to talk. Yeah, oh definitely, Eric again, thank
you for being here. Really enjoyour conversation. Anything knows you want to
say before I let you go.Yeah, I just we're in a world
right now that's short on hope.Negativity is everywhere, but there is a

(38:44):
lot of reason for hope. Thereare a lot of good things going on,
So don't just resign yourself to what'shappening on your phone just we have
a choice between faith, hope andbelief or fear and doubt, and we
will always have that choice what wechoose. So I hope that you can
choose faith, hope and belief.I love that. Eric. Again,

(39:07):
thank you so much for being here. Really appreciate you've being on the show
today and for the rest of youguys, do me a fair Please make
sure that you share this message becausedefinitely somebody needs to hear it. And
I'll see you guys at the nextepisode of You Can Want to come and
in podcast show. Thank you.Hi. I'm Caesara Espino, real estate
investor, business coach and consultant andauthor of the book You Can Overcome Anything

(39:27):
Even when the World says No.My number is four two four five zero
one six zero four to six.In my book, I talk about making
the necessary changes to shift your mindfor prosperity and certainty. Pick up your
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(39:51):
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(40:13):
am looking forward to having you atthe next episode. And no, you
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