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September 10, 2025 38 mins
In Today's epidsode CesarRespino.com brings to you a special guest to You Can Overcome Anything! Podcast Show.

Mark Sherwood, Naturopathic Doctor (ND) and Michele L. Neil-Sherwood, Doctor of Osteopathy (DO), have a full-time wellness-based medical practice in Tulsa, OK called the Functional Medical Institute where they adopt a whole person approach, which is outcome based looking at each individual’s unique needs. Their goal is to lead people down a pathway of true healing. To that end, there are two purposes: 1. To eradicate all self-imposed, choice driven disease conditions, and 2. To eliminate the usage of unnecessary medications. Through their unique clinic, various diagnostic tests are used, healing and prevention of common disease patterns are the norm.

The couple has co-authored four Amazon #1 best-selling books, The Quest for Wellness, Fork Your Diet, Surviving the garden of Eatin’, The Narrow Road, and Peptides Unlocked (just released). They have been seen on national TV, been quoted on CNN, featured on CBN, and are regular contributors to many national publications. Drs. Mark and Michele appear twice weekly on many TV networks with their show Furthermore. They are also movie producers of the documentary film Fork Your Diet, and other inspirational and faith-based movies: The Prayer List, WWJR, Heaven’s Date, and Holy Flix. Two more films have just concluded production – The Last POTUS and Wealthy Soul. Both will come out worldwide in 2025.

Their influence also expands into healthy meal and product development called Kingdom Life - with formulations including Kingdom Fuel, Kingdom Kandy, Kingdom Krunch, Kingdom H2, Kingdom Kollagen, Kingdom Energy, Kingdom Colostrum, and Kingdom Kup.
With a broad social media network that spans the globe and reaches millions, Drs. Mark and Michele’s influence is far reaching. The couple understands the importance of nutrition, medical food & supplementation, exercise prescription, rest, stress management, hormone balance and functional movement. This makes them a modern day “dynamic duo of wellness” and the “original biohackers”.

Dr. Michele is a former national physique champion, taekwondo black belt, judo black belt, fitness expert, functional medicine expert. She is a fellow in Osteopathic Internal Medicine and an IFM certified practitioner. Her training is both extensive and expansive. Along with Dr. Mark, she instructs clinicians worldwide on nutrigenomics and nutrigenetics.

Dr. Mark has completed training and certifications in age management, nutrigenetics, nutrigenomics, peptide therapy, hormone therapy, stress management, GI health, and immunology. He is a 24-year retired veteran of the Tulsa Police Department, where he logged a decade of courageous service on the department’s SWAT Team. He is also a former Oklahoma state and regional bodybuilding champion, and ex-professional baseball player. Additionally, Dr. Mark traveled the world for over 10 years with the world-famous Power Team. Mark is also a motivational speaker whose presentations are sought by audiences nationwide and was a 2022 gubernatorial candidate for Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Are you looking for more out of your life? Do
you need ideas on how to start new businesses and
how to move forward in your own personal life? Well,
guess what you have come to a right radio show
at You Can Overcome Anything Podcast Show. You are learning
here from many people from all walks of life who

(00:22):
are sharing their challenges, their stories, their habits and the
mind shifts they had to overcome to become who they
are today. On top you will get a chance to
connect and see how you can overcome anything by networking
and learning about your next move through this radio show.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
I present to you our great speakers at you Can
Overcome Anything Podcast Show with your host Caesar.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Is you know?

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Hello darn, Welcome back to another episode of You Can
All Come Any the podcast show. It is your host
Caesar espin On and today my guest is Mark Sherwood
Ade Marco Ardy.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
Today I'm doing well, Caesar, Thanks for having me man,
I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Yeah, no, definitely, thank you. What do you tell us
a little bit about yourself? Tell us a little bit
about your background and who you are and what you do.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
Well, it's a very background. Previously, I'm currently I'm a
traditional intropathic doctor where I work at the Functional Medical
Institute in Tulsa with my wife, doctor Michelle. We kind
of have a longevity type of business and a long
long time. But prior to this, going back some years,
I was a former police officer for twenty four years.

(01:43):
I was also a professional baseball player for a couple
of years before that, I was with the Power Team.
People might remember those guys that traveled around the world
and broke bricks and run through walls of ice and
that kind of stuff. We're on TV out there a
lot of the time in your home state. And then
we've written some books like six and we've made seven

(02:05):
or eight movies, so kind of like doing that in
our past time. So that's a little bit about us.
We just try to like help people and and really
be a voice of hope and reason for them and
their health.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Got you, Yeah, I see here your number one best seller,
The Quest for Wellness, for your Diet, Surviving the Garden
of Eating, the Narrow Road and people Unlock.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
Awesome.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
So that's good. So I always you know, definitely you've
got through a lot of things. And by the way,
thank you for your service. And again there's a lot
of discipline with that, and you've done a lot of
different things that have been that would be perceived as
being very disciplined. Take me back to your upg bringing
in your stages, because I do believe that what we

(02:52):
are now part of that is who we were right
and and down the line we also may may find
and recognize different things. So to me back to where
you were originally from born and upbringing.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
Well, I grew up in a little town outside of
Tulsa called Berry Hill, and I believe it or not,
there were forty seven people in my graduating class, so
it's a pretty small place. And I was adopted to
a lot of people don't know that and only child,
and my parents did the best they could, but I probably,
you know, growing up sees didn't have the best situation.

(03:27):
I would say it was a little challenging and I
had to learn to overcome a lot, and you overcome
a lot with hard work. Sometimes you know you have
big dreams, but you can't achieve big dreams until you
want to work hard to get there. And the big
dreams aren't achieved by somebody that's always the most talented
in the world. But sometimes it's the one that outworks

(03:49):
everybody else, you know, and so you know, even the
whole idea of you know, playing professional baseball, Well, I
wasn't the best baseball player in my team. How do
you do that? You have to outwork everybody else and
just get noticed by doing that. So I guess it
was a life of overcoming early on, you know, just
overcoming obstacles and people telling you can't do something. And

(04:13):
I remember a teacher one time stood in front of
class and she asked me to tell the class what
dreams I had I want to be when I grew up.
And I was probably in second grade or something like that,
and I held my hand up and she called on me,
and I wish she hadn't because I said I want
to be a professional baseball player. And everybody laughed at
me because well, I mean, it didn't sound realistic at

(04:35):
the time, but you know, Cesar, she told me that.
And she told the whole class to said, take a
pen out and write on a piece of paper what
you want to achieve in life, and keep that with
you until your dream came true. Well I was just
foolish enough to do it. I kept that piece of
paper all the way until I found it again. Through
the years, I kind of forgot about it. But I
was sitting the dugout one day the country of Australia

(04:58):
in a baseball game, and I thought of that paper,
no kidding, and I went and looked in my bag
and I had my wallet there and I couldn't find it, and
I thought, oh jeez, I lost it. But then it
was stuck to the back of my driver's license and
I pulled a part in it. There's my little handwriting
from being a kid man right there. That paper was
once white, was now yellow. It said I will become

(05:21):
a professional baseball player, period. And so I just realized
at that point, you know, if you believe in your
dreams enough, they can come true.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Yeah, that's huge, and that's actually a really good lesson
to even talk about a livingit more. I mean, you know,
like you said, if you believe in your dreams, now
you know it can be achieved. Yes, And thinking back
and looking back going through that exercise or that one
thing that can put on a paper many many years ago,

(05:49):
what were some lessons of things that were coming out
for you when you did achieve and did become a
professional baseball player, right, because yes, again, a lot of times,
you know, when we're going through that, we don't really
write it down. We just kind of speaking to its existence. Yeah,
a police officer, I want to be a firefighter, I
want to be a doctor, I want to be this
that want to be dead, And a lot of times
there's a lot of those common things in essence, right,

(06:12):
except here you took the time, you wrote it down. Yeah,
probably put it away and then it came to fruition.
What are some lessons that were attracted with that being
in mind for you?

Speaker 4 (06:23):
I think number one is when you have a goal,
write it down, because it's like a roadmap. You know,
if you don't know where you're going, how do you
know how to get there? So I think it provides
like a destination. And then I think the second part
of that is is probably in the journey to that destination,
you're going to have different places in which you stop

(06:43):
off at for a while. There are lessons to get
you further down the road. And sometimes some of those
lessons that you have are known as setbacks, you know,
because we're all going to have them. The life is
not a straight line, man, It's like this narrow road
that goes everywhere, and a setback can be something that

(07:04):
caused you to take a step back and even sometimes
quit or a setback can be a time for you
to not take a step back, but to step up
because your step back set back was preparing you for
your comeback, you know. And I think that's the other
way to look at it. And when you knock down,

(07:25):
get knocked down. I got knocked down a bunch man.
You got three choices with that. I think this is
the third lesson I learned. Is you can lay there
and cry about it and become a victim of it,
or you can go back and say, well, I got
to find something else. Do you get off that road?
Or maybe number three, you can get your butt up
and you can keep on moving. Yeah, And you can

(07:46):
dust yourself off, quit crying, wipe the tears out of
your eyes, and keep going. And I had to do
that a bunch man. Life was not easy and I
had to keep going. And I've learned how to do
that in life now. And the lessons you learned is
that child like that as a young man, they can
set the tone, whether good or bad. As you mentioned,
as you get to be an adult.

Speaker 5 (08:07):
And I'm thankful that through those setbacks in my own life,
I'm thankful that to God, I suppose that he put
in my life in my heart that those could be
good things and I could learn from him.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
So lessons learned in my case were lessons earned? I suppose.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Yeah, No, that's that's huge. The other thing too, that
comes to mind, and going back to all the different
lessons that you're learning and the setbacks that you have.
Regardless of how people may perceive that you mentioned earlier,
You're adopted, So that could have been you know that
by itself. I can only imagine how that could do,
even if you're in a loving relationship of family parents.

(08:46):
I myself was adopted with my on my dad's side,
and that myself was difficult, right, So that is a
setback to an extent or lessons to learning different things
to navigate through. Then you're going through all of these
different things as you're growing up and trying to ther
what you want to do. Talk to me about, uh,
why you you were you were? I'm assuming it's pretty

(09:08):
good in baseball and really enjoy them. Why that shift?
Why that changed from that to now a police officer?
For many years, and that by itself is also is
a never a safe job. Right, every day you're going
into not annoying if you're going to come back good, right.
Tell me about that experience.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
Well, I think, you know, baseball, I wanted to play
in the major leagues and didn't quite make that and
and you know, maybe it wasn't the right timing. Maybe
it wasn't the right wasn't the goal was supposed to
be it. But I did get to play professionally, which
was a goal song there. But when I when I
came back from the country of Australia, actually because I

(09:47):
last played over there, I needed to get a job.
It was time to go to work, you know. And
a friend of mine was a police officer, and you know,
I thought that's a really cool career and a way
to serve the public. And so I got hired pretty quickly.
And for ten years little plus out of my twenty
four year career, I was on the SWAT team. And

(10:10):
you see things and go through things that people should
not see or go through, and it's hard. It changes
who you are in the way you see things. And
I think probably within that timeframe there were times where
to my own faults where I thought it was really us,
the police against them, the bad guys. And I was

(10:33):
so wrong in that because that's not the way it is.
Because the person that I was arresting or having to
go in confront man, that could have been me with
just one or two bad decisions, you know. So I
learned something in about the ten year mark of my
career that I was one decision away from being a

(10:58):
good person or making a bad decision to put me
in a place where I'd be on outside of the law.
And so it changed the way I'm related to people
because I figured, if I'm only one breath away from
being an idiot or a blessing, you know, my own life,
I need to treat people that way. It's not us
versus them, it's us. It's us. And so that was

(11:21):
a big shift that occurred in my life, probably about
the ten year mark, that really transformed the way I
think about life and people.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah, awesome, So let's dive into you decided to get
into medicine and then wouldn't you know study You have
a lot of credentials backing you up. What did that
come about?

Speaker 4 (11:42):
Well, the last probably seven eight years of my career
as a police officer, I was transferred to the police
academy to do a lot of work with the cadets,
you know, to train them, to hire them, recruit them,
and all that kind of stuff and lead them. But
in that process, I was tasked with developing a wellness
program or police officers, and it didn't exist, so I

(12:03):
didn't know how to do that. So I just started
studying and I realized something Caesar that blew my mind.
It was that the retired male police officer, and this
statistic still holds true for most cities and counties and
states across the nation, the retired male police officer lives
to the average of sixty six years of age. Wow,

(12:24):
it is not okay. And so I wanted to figure
out why that was and what I could do to
make a difference. And so I just started studying and
developed the wellness program and just got curious about how
life affects the police officer. And then I realized that
it's not just affecting police officers, that life affects everybody,

(12:45):
and so that thought process can seem to expand, and
so from protection and service at that level, it just
simply transferred to protection and service at another level, and
which is what I do now. So like Forrest Gump,
you know, who startedunning and kept on running in the movie,
I started studying, kept on studying, and never stopped. So

(13:06):
from the police officer, I became a traditional entropathic doctor,
and my wife and I teamed up and now here
we are, nearly fifteen years later. I never saw it coming,
but it's my mind and heart is the same. I'm
still trying to protect people from themselves, you know, and
serve them has been I can't even though it's it's

(13:26):
expanding quite a bit and maybe in a different way,
but it's still the same mindset.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
Got it? Why you said that through your research and study,
what are the mean reasons why the expectency is only
sixty six years or so?

Speaker 4 (13:41):
I think it's several factors. Shift work, high stress, very
poor nutrition, lack of sleep, proper sleep and rest, lack
of exercise. A lot of them gained a lot of
extra weight, which is not okay, it's implanet for I
think it's all that combined, and uh, it's just a

(14:03):
hard life. And so I've tried my best all these
years to the ones that I still have connection with
around the country. Matter of fact, even before coming on
with you, I was talking to a person who is
in the state of Texas who used to be a
former police officer, and so it's it's been fascinating. But
the same issues exist today, right, And so those are

(14:24):
the one the core issues that I see as being
factors that would make life expectancy less with them. Gotcha?

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Gotcha?

Speaker 4 (14:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (14:32):
And I see here you have completed training and certification
in age management, unrient genetics, nutrient uh genomics, steptide therapy,
hormo therapy, stress management, GA health, and immunology. So do
you go out and and and now are practicing and

(14:53):
teaching people like people hire you to kind of help
you with Tell me about how people can work with
you in terms of them.

Speaker 4 (14:59):
Yeah, we we have clients really, myself and my wife
really all of the country and all the world. Think
thankfully to the remote communication we have. You know today
we're on remote, We're on the Zoom, which is kind
of cool. It's it's really opened the door for us
to build to help people around the country and world.
And it's not unusual people reach out to us and
I kind of help people in all those areas we

(15:21):
you know, genetics, peptides, hormones, just overall life style, to
enhance the idea of not just living longer, Caesar, but
to live better, maybe increasing health span and decreasing six span.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
I love that. So is it? Is it? What is
part of your mission right now you're trying to go
in and impact x amount of people? Or what is
it that you're trying to accomplish right now with disney
venture of yours?

Speaker 4 (15:49):
Man, it's a lot big picture. I want to see
hospitals less empty and haven't hurt for business, I really
really do. I want to see those minor emergencies that
don't have mine emergencies on. I want to see them
close down. I want to see pharmacies use less. I
want to see self imposed choice driven illnesses gone. And

(16:11):
I want to see people use less medication because I
think our country is in a bind. We're the most
unhealthy state we've ever been in the history of mankind's
existence right now. And is that okay? I don't think so.
And it's driven in part because of a system that's
not about helping people. It's not about healing people, it's

(16:34):
not about prevention disease processes. It's about management of disease processes,
and that's a tragedy because I don't think anyone's born
with medication deficiencies. You know. We so mission that my
wife and I have is a is a big one.
We want to change people's the way they think about things,
their mind and hearts, I suppose, and just the way

(16:54):
they do life, you know. And I'm not against doctors
my goodness at all, but I think think that we
are great in this country at traumacare, but we're very
poor at prevention. And all the money we spend on
the Traumacare is great, but we need to get rid
of the just the management of medications and the management

(17:18):
of disease processes in our country because it's it's not
helping us. And so our job is to just see
change in that, perhaps one person, one family at a time,
around our great nation.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yeah, yeah, no, definitely. You know you said something that
I think we need more people like you that are
doing what you're doing, because when I think of that
we talked about we got to be able to have
people that are relying less on medication. And unfortunately Big
Farm has a big business in this country and everything.

(17:53):
It doesn't matter what you have, Hey, go out and
give more medicine.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
Right.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
It's something like every time for it, even the most
ignixat significant stuff, you got to go out and get medicine.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
Right.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
And so the point that I'm trying to make that
is a big fight that that you're getting yourself into,
right to be able to fight something like that. So
tell me, you know, although there's there's any more people
like you, you're, you're, you and your wife, you know,
you're just that power team, right, how can you help
and and make sure that we're getting the message out?

(18:23):
You know, obviously with this podcast and other podcasts getting
this message out to say, hey guys, here are some
things that you guys can do to minimize that and
get and even get more and more years to your age. Right,
give us some tangible things that we can do well.

Speaker 4 (18:38):
I think first of all, we have to come together
as the people once again, be we the people, because
right now you mentioned you know, the big farm has
got so much power in us. They're advertising to our
through our television screens, through our radio airways, and even
through all kinds of media. And it's driven and funded
by the government and that's not okay. So we the people,
got to take charge of our health again. And there's

(18:59):
a few things people can do every single day to
help themselves. Number one is you can get your tennis
shoes on and go move. The only day you don't
move is the day you're dead. I tell people that
a lot, Caesar, because movement is life. Lack of movement
is rigor mortis. And just keep that in mind. We
need to begin to also eat better and what we
put in our mouths. Would need to think about it.

(19:21):
If something's not in its original package and it's laden
with chemicals and toxins, we don't need to eat it.
It is inflammatory, It is not food, and it never was.
And this may sound a little bit weird, but it
still has a lot of truth. Anything that government subsidizes
in order to make cheap, probably don't eat it because

(19:42):
it's not doing our country very well. And they subsidize sugars, grains, corn, soy, dairy,
et cetera. And we consume those things and we get
sick and end up getting big pharma in our lives
routinely with our a monthly business to the pharmacy. And
so we got to move well eat better. I think

(20:05):
we need not fail to mention sleep. Sleep is critical.
We need seven eight hours a night, and sometimes we
spend more time on the screen than we do sleeping,
and sleeping is a great way to recover, rebuild, restore, regenerate.
That's the way the body does that. And number four,

(20:26):
I think probably equally as important as the previous three
is to work on distressing. I mean, we are so
connected today, we are so consumed with media and just
this addiction where we're driven by stimulus everywhere, and we
have a hard time sitting still and just being quiet.
We have a hard time not talking, We have a

(20:48):
hard time in silence. And you can always know to
our listeners out there if you have a hard time
with this, if you find it stressful to sit down
for ten minutes with your phone on other side of
the room where you're not checking it, in the quiet
and just sit there and just breathe and relax and
just take it an inventory of where you are and
who you are, and what day it is, what time

(21:10):
it is. We move so fast we don't know what
time it is. And so those areas more movement, better nutrition,
better sleep, and better management of stress without doing anything else,
those things would be a critical piece to take adjustments
in to get our health better.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Yeah, yeah, no, that's huge. Do you guys go out
in speak on stages to bring this message around the country.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
We do. I've probably been in not most, probably most states,
maybe there's a couple I haven't. Yeh been tortured enough
to speak in every continent except one, which I'm pretty
decided about that. But yeah, we go where we're invited.
We have a lot of opportunities and and take the

(22:04):
ones we can, honestly, because if you have the opportunity
to facilitate or be a change agent in one person's life,
you never know who that one person can influence. And
that it's not somebody that I might never know. I
may never know who's listening today, I may never meet

(22:25):
a person listening to And you know, it's it's like,
but that is what drives us, because if you change
one life, man, you've got a chance to change the
legacy of that family line. And that's what drives us
every day.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Yeah, and you know you you hit it right on
the now and the the idea of being able to
impact one too many, right, And it really comes down
to it. You just never know who's listening to our
message right and and and that one person can can
can be the viacan of helping all the people around
the other thing to is in terms of delivering that

(23:03):
message and really helping people through that process. What other
ways do you help people? Do they call you and say, hey,
doctor Mark, I want to work with you. Some systems
do you do, like personalized coaching or training?

Speaker 4 (23:17):
Yeah, we do. Actually when people like my wife and I,
we had this with our business. We have a free
webinar once a month and people can watch that and
ask us questions and they can schedule consults. So they
can call our office and schedule consults, and we usually
if they're remote, we will set up the zoom. If
they're local, will set up in person, and we really
get to know them as a human being because like

(23:41):
the mystery of what's going on in a person is
typically uncovered in the history, and the history is one
that we established through a relationship. And I know that
I've learned that good things happen these are in a
trust where the relationship, and not many good things happen
in a non trust worth the relationship. So we work
through all aspects of life. You know, what they do,

(24:03):
who they are, how they are, the culture of the family,
and we really try to come up with adjustments in
all the areas nutrition, sleep, stress management, movement. We want
to know genetically who they are, and we get them
started on hormones as appropriate and peptides is appropriate, and
supplementation is appropriate, and really work through them from an
emotional standpoint, spiritual standpoint, intellectual standpoint, you know, really work

(24:27):
on the whole person. So we construct workout plans, we
construct lifestyle plans, all those things we do. And it's
really a personalized approach Caesar to each human being, because
every person is like a puzzle, like a five hundred
piece jigsaw puzzle sitting on the table in front of you,
and I want to make sure that things put together
right so that it's conveying the picture it's supposed to

(24:49):
and the picture gives you the meaning. You know that
pictures that vision that you got to see man. And
so if we can create that vision in people, you know,
they typically have a much more confident live, less distracted life,
and probably more focused life.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Yeah, and I'm sure that you know with that again,
when you're doing working family stress. There's so many different
things that might be going and you mentioned, you know,
minimizing the stress, and I think that's probably one of
the biggest things that we as human beings, in especially
in the US, we're dealing with. There's so much stress
just all around. Right, people may lead to some consequences

(25:28):
such as suicidal thoughts and things like that. I'm sure
you dealt with with those kind of clients and or people.
I'm sure people might be asking, you know, well, I
might be going through that, or I went through that
with a family member, how can you help me? You know,
you know, how can you relate to that? And I
know that one of the major things you have to overcome,
what is was the suicide of your mother and the

(25:49):
death of your son, right, And so you can definitely
you've gone and felt that, and you know what that means,
except again you being there and having that discipline to
be able to overcome that. Talk about that, because I
know there's a lot of people going to be thinking,
how can you help me if I'm going through those things?

Speaker 4 (26:05):
You know, I mean, look, I've lived through those things
and probably it'll be to me die through those things.
Quite frankly, you know, and even being a police officer,
I've seen people commit suicide right in front of me
and it's a hard thing. You don't ever forget that,
and it's perhaps it it puts a scar on your life,

(26:26):
but I can understand from a standpoint of where people
might think no one understands. There's not a person out
here that had felt like given up a time or
two or more. And that's being honest, man. I mean
I felt like that, of course. But if we're just
honest and transparent, that's probably part of being a unit.

(26:48):
You're going to go through highs and lows, and some
lows are gonna be really low and some highs. I'm
really high. But you got to know that suicide is
a permanent solution for a temporary problem. And you know
you're out there and you're hanging out man, and you
just want to quit and give up, thinking nobody loves you.
That's not true because I can look them in the eye,

(27:09):
whether it be in person or online like this, and
I can say I love you, period and I don't
care what you've done. The that's gives you one person
to count on because I really do care. I don't
want to see people quit on life because there's people
out there that want to feel like there's no other way.
But I'm telling you, there's always another way. There's one

(27:30):
more way. You give it five minutes, give it ten minutes,
rethink what you're doing, and it'll reshape what you're doing
when it go in the future. And people struggle all
the time, Caesar, they do, and again, struggle is part
of life, but it's also hey, you and get stronger.
You know. I go to the gym every day. How
do I get struggle? I struggle with weight. The weight

(27:54):
of the world is a struggle man. And you can
build resilience like that, you can build strength like that,
and it doesn't have to get the best of you.
And I'll say this to people out there that might
be struggling with this. If you don't begin to manage life,
life will manage you. And I'm not gonna let life
manage me. I'm not going to do it because I

(28:16):
found that the best way to overcome the struggles of
life is to take charge of that thing and own
the things I can own, and really control the things
I can control, and have some grace and wisdom to
deal with the things I can't.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
And you know part of it is I like we
just mentioned and one thing that really resonates and everybody listening,
they need to really take this too hard. You know,
it really just five minutes, like you say, and when
you think about it, you know, we have these big
problems on our shoulders. Except again, I like how you
put it. It can be just a five minute rethinking
or a ten minute rethinking, or just shifting that mindset

(28:57):
or giving you what we're looking for, that carrot, that
dangling carrot, that hope that hey, those five minutes, those
ten minutes can definitely change the trajectory of what's gonna
be next. I also people that the choices and the
decisions that we make today will determine the quality of
life that we have tomorrow. And so by making those

(29:18):
right choices or making that choice period is gonna dictate
what's gonna be the next move. The challenges is that
people are so afraid to make that choice that they
get hung up on that and they never make the
choice right. And that's part of that is thinking like, hey,
let's just think about this for five seconds, for five minutes,
whatever that might be right, let's just sit on that

(29:38):
quiet before you pull the trigger, before you do something
that could change your life forever, you know. And in
this case, if you're thinking of something more impactful, you're gone, right,
let's see what you do. And so there's a lot
of help, you know. I like the fact that you
have your free webs seminars or webinars to be able

(29:59):
to help people in those things. If people wanted to
connect find out more about that webinar, contact you. How
do they people get a hold.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
Of you really easy? Then go straight to Sherwood dot
tv my last name dot tv and there's a bunch
of free stuff there for people that had they can
sign it for our blog, and we have our you know,
television show. There's some episodes on there, and there's our
movies that people want to connect with those, and then
our services. I mean, we're here to help, man, I mean,

(30:28):
we're not here to do anything but be a helper
into that end. You know, you mentioned Hope. I were
these little bracelets here that says yeah Hope dealer, and
and that's what my wife and I do. We found
it Hope Deaders International as well, and it's just an
organization that just tries to get people that let a
window of hope to any means possible. And and to

(30:49):
echo what you said, just to people would relate to
this yesterday in the past, man, is it's it's history.
I can't go fix that. Man if I acted like
a goofball, I've got to learn from that. But I
can't go backwards. And I don't know about tomorrow because seizure,
that's still a mystery. But I sure know about right

(31:12):
now is today, it's the present. And that's why today,
right now, in the present is a gift. And I
really hope that people treasure at the moment of now
because that's the time you can change things. You know,
don't live in yesterday and don't live for tomorrow and
tomorrow because they're not now and and so we're just

(31:35):
here to try to help people along the way. And
if we can do that, that's great.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yeah. I think part of it too, where people might
get hung up on the idea of the pass and
the press and and carrect me. I want to hear
your thoughts on that because I think it's important. You know,
like you said, the past is the pass. There's something
we can do. I tell people nearly. That's that's just
an experience, right. It said, when we're looking at the past,
we got to be able to act the lessons, right,

(32:01):
those that that that can serve us to have a
better tomorrow based on today, and then when it comes
down to the to the future, you're right, we're just
here today, right. And So what I tell people though, is,
you know, because I hear this this phrase Aladdin and
and and people really mean this. It's like, I just
I'm just living day by day. I'm just going day

(32:22):
by day, right. And while I get that to an extent,
because they don't, I don't have a future yet, except
they're literally taking that day by day without really thinking
prepping getting ready for tomorrow. I like to say, hey,
you really got to put a little bit of efforts
where like, hey, you know what took place in the past,
they take those lessons, extract those lessons, and now prepare

(32:45):
to what you want for your future to be. Like,
what do you want your future to look like? Because
living day by day, in my opinion, is not gonna
get you nowhere. You're gonna have the same day again tomorrow.
What are your thoughts on that?

Speaker 4 (32:56):
Well? I like, what you said, let me just kind
of sum up like this, live today both like there's
no tomorrow and like you'll live forever. Let's say that
one more time, Live today, like there's no tomorrow and
like you'll live forever. It's both, you know, it's the

(33:18):
same time. It's live today with expectancy and hope and
purpose and intentionality. And also when you get up in
the daytime, you know, you assess what you learned, You
try to do a good job and make your best
better and at the end of the day, you assess
what you went through and you wake up the next
day and you do it again and try to be better.
And so it's really trying to improve this walk we

(33:41):
have through life every day so that we can leave,
you know, footprints behind that, like show a pathway of
how to do things, you know, like a legacy of sorts.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yeah, yeah, I love that. Two less questions for you.
Number One, you definitely have this positive mindset. You've gone
through a lot, You've worked in a lot of different things.
Do you have any daily habits, things that you do
every day that are non negotiables for you and you
can share.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
Yeah, I'm a predictable guy. Man, I realize, if you
don't make a plan, you've already planned to fail. So
I'm very structured. So I get up every day. I
get up about four o'clock usually in the morning, and
it comes early. But I also go to betterly too,
and I get up in the morning and I'll immediately
I have quiet time for me. It's prayer and quiet.

(34:30):
I do that every day because I need it to
prepare for the day. And then from that point, I
go to the gym and exercise, and I don't listen
to trash in my ears to music. I'll listen to
quiet stuff, you know, sometimes nothing, and I get my
exercise done. And those are two non negotiables that I do.

(34:51):
And then I'll go to work, and then I eat
healthy food and then I get done with work and
seeing people, and I spend time with my wife, quiet down,
and I go to bed, and I do that pretty
much all the time. Now having said that, one thing
I want to say about my life with my wife,

(35:13):
and I think it's important. And I have a non
negotiable that we have a date night once a week.
I love that here who calls or whatever, I'm Friday
night is the date night and that's the way it is,
and no one gets in the way of that. And
I think those those non negotiables like that have helped
me out in my life. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
I love that. Building those boundaries for yourself more than anything,
helping you move forward, that's huge. My last question for
you is one of the people that are watching us
and are listening to us, if they are going through
any challenge, whatever challenge that might be, what is one
thing or a few things you can say so they
can start overcoming that challenge.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
Yeah, embrace the challenge is number one. A challenge, man,
is going to happen. I mean, in this world, you're
going to have problems. But you've got to embrace those
challenges as stepping stones instead of letting them be like
a roadblock for you, let them be something you can elevate.
Sometimes you step over them, but sometimes you step on them, man,

(36:17):
and you make yourself taller. And you see it differently.
When you're looking at the challenge. It's like being in
the middle of the storm, but get above the storm
like an eagle. An eagle lets the storm propel them
upwards and they go above the storm or still there,
they just fly above it. But the people that let
the storm control them stay below it. They go hide. So,

(36:39):
in other words, instead of just complaining about the challenges,
I think the moral of the story with that is
to embrace the challenges is something that can help you
grow and get better.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Boom. There you have it. I love that it's a
read message there, Mark, Thank you again for being here.
Reappreciate having you on and you sharing some of the
things you have going on, and definitely looking forward to
having people connect with you. Go ahead and check out
your webinar any last minute things you may want to share.

Speaker 4 (37:08):
No, I'm grateful for you. I encourage people to you
know their list and follow you and support you and
what you're doing. That's a big deal. I'm grateful to
be on with you and appreciate the opportunity and people
want to reach out to just that'd.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Be great, awesome. Well, thank you again for being here,
and for the rest of you guys, do be affair.
Please make sure that you get shared this podcast. Tell
everyone because definitely somebody needs to hear this message and
we can impact somebody's lives. I'll see you guys on
the next episode of If You Can Overcome Anteing Podcast.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
Show.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (37:36):
Hi.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
I'm Caesar Espino, real estate investor, business coach and consultant
and author of the book You Can Overcome Anything, even
when the world says No. My number is four two
four five zero one six zero four to six. In
my book, I talk about making the necessary changes to
shift your mind for prosperity and certainty. Pick up your
copy at Amazon. I also love helping families with their
real estate and can purchase your house fast and all cash.

(37:59):
Follow me on Instagram, Facebook and LinkedIn. My number is
four two four five zero one six zero four six.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
Thank you for having me today. I am so glad
you've tuned into this podcast. You can find me at
your favorite podcast platform where you can like, subscribe, comment
and share, and to learn more about myself my services.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
You can find me at www dot Caesararspino dot com,
or you can also find me at your social media.
Thanks for joining me and I am looking forward to
having you at the next episode.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
And No, you truly can overcome anything.
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