The Return

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
All right, good evening. Welcome to WSBI, your resource for success.
New podcasts return Unveiled, where all conversations are safe, revealing
an uncuffed and tonight's show has partnered with Chris's Dishes.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
And guess what, you guys, I am back.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
I have some grazy, crazy criminals hanging out with me tonight,
my new hosts, and I have some special hosts with
me as well on who will be with us on
the regular.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
But I also have something really special I really.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Want to introduce, and he's.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
My new hubby. See I've been gone so long that.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
People are probably wondering why I left. I needed a break,
but it's okay. I'm back now with action. We're gonna
have something great for you guys coming out.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Even for the new year.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
So this is just a snippet of what the new
year is gonna look like. So please Hubby introduce yourself.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
Hello everyone, This is carmeil Pesci. I am the hobby
of this wonderful woman that's doing this podcast. And I
was a little apprehensive at first to even do something
like this because I'm not a one who is out spoken.
But I do like a good conversation and I decided

(01:14):
that this is a good, good.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Form to do it in. And I am not a criminal.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
She calls me a criminal, but I'm not a criminal.
I am a disappointed gangster from Brooklyn, New York, but
I am not a criminal. I'm not a criminal because
I was never caught doing anything. So we will talk
about that sometime later.

Speaker 5 (01:39):
One time you were young and needed the money.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
I always needed money when I was young. Now I
got it.

Speaker 6 (01:45):
It was.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
It was a challenge, but I persevered. And that's a
different story we'll have on a different podcast, because I
will tell you this, I did see the inside of
a jail cell judgment, but I was never convicted.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Make sure you got your papers right for retirement, baby,
because when they hear this, sir, we've been time for
you to go. Okay, alrighty.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
So I have over here to my left and to
my right these other wonderful hosts. One has definitely been
with me on more than one occasion on my show.
And he's also, like I said, he has partnered with
us tonight with Chris's dishes. But I have wonderful Chris
and Jen Chabez got a welcome.

Speaker 5 (02:34):
Welcome, welcome, wealthy again Hell hell, I try, ladies, go ahead.

Speaker 6 (02:47):
I so good evening everyone. It's a pleasure to be here. First,
I want to thank him for inviting us to join
her on this endeavor. It's definitely going to be exciting.
My name is Jen Chavez and uh I have known
Carmine and for quite some time. Not only did we
used to work together, but we are actually more like family.

Speaker 7 (03:06):
Excited to have some revealing, uncuffed conversations, dig into some
things that you might not necessarily be comfortable talking about,
but we're going to make it comfortable for you.

Speaker 6 (03:16):
So enjoy.

Speaker 5 (03:19):
Chris Chavis, I am the owner operator of Chris's Dishes
with my lovely wife. I belong to her. Jen, I
am cuff there. I mean it happens so other than that,
I mean this, I know this is like my third
go around.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
I believe that it is.

Speaker 5 (03:38):
So that's kind of an honor to actually be a
part of the crew. So I'm kind of looking forward
to this because I've been getting inspired to do something
like this too.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
All right, so well that's why I'm here.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
It' I'm all about inspiration, right, They all got to
come out of our comfort zones. Yes, it's funny because
we were kind of rehearsing and getting things prepped for
yesterday for today, and I was telling karm so I
went back and looked at and listened to some of
my old, very first podcasts.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
I was like, I don't see how anybody in the
world wanted to listen to me.

Speaker 5 (04:08):
It was bad.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
It was bad.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
So you know, when when you jump into something of
the unknown, you just really don't know what you're getting too.
But this has really become a huge part of what
WSBI is all about.

Speaker 5 (04:20):
It's about creating, and I think this is absolually becoming
a lot of what the world is into more now.
So they're kind of getting away from like, you know,
the you know, the four letter bad word news and
moving into more of pot listening to podcasts and different
their favorite hosts and people that were on those set
those shows before. So now like for me, honestly, like

(04:44):
I'll be honest, And I talked to them my buddy
about this, and I tell the wife this all the time.
It was like, the only reason why I really like
watch the news nowadays is to watch the weather and
the traffic, because if you live in Northern Virginia, you
need both life.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
And everything else is nonsense.

Speaker 5 (04:59):
Yeah, and uh in the windows pretty much.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
I believe, I firmly believe that you believe none of
what you hear and only half of what you're eating.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
And if you're lucky and and and you.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
Make your own opinions and you make you do your
own uh due diligence in finding out what's real and
what isn't real, And it comes from emotion.

Speaker 6 (05:20):
Except the traffic, because that's real. We have worse traffic
here and then we had in New York.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
I'm convinced, well, you know what, Uh at the time,
I never looked at the traffic news.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
I just got in my car and drove.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
And I can't do that.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
I can't do that. Now. You could go out and
think that there's no traffic.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
And like yesterday morning, right, make that turn, and all
of a sudden I get yelled at because I let
somebody in the who's in the year lane?

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Do you come in there? And she I'm worried about
the cars behind. I'm being very Christian here, the person
going very Christian and.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
The rest of we're sticking out on the other.

Speaker 5 (05:59):
Hand, right, I believe that just happened.

Speaker 6 (06:05):
Somebody's gonna flip you off the.

Speaker 5 (06:06):
Next time you do that, I so like going back
to the murching. She hates when I do this. It's like,
what are you in the corner? Like my instant like
Afghan Iraq road rage kicks in. It's like do you
not know? Have you not read the book? It is
very front and back left to right. It says how
to murder. It's called the Zipper effect. It's not that hard, people,
it's very easy. But you get you can start going
on Northern Virginia traffic is like I don't know what

(06:29):
I'm doing. Yeah, And then when the kryptonite starts to fall,
God help us. The rain snow, rain, snow. The first drop,
you would have thought it was a nuclear holocaust. With
some drivers around here, it's like, dude.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Really exactly, because you're supposed to go faster.

Speaker 5 (06:47):
And break as hard as you can. Don't turn into
the into the way you're drifting. I was like, I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Oh my goodness, Well now we have revealed our drive
in this household.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
We're good.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
So what do you guys want to really unveil?

Speaker 6 (07:05):
You know, Like you said something on your intro that
I thought was really important, especially people in our age
bracket about needing a break. You needed a break, you
needed to take a minute. And I know for me,
you know that was always a bad expression. Oh I
needed a break, Like what the hell you need a
break for? Get off your ass, go do some work,
figure it out, right. But you needed a break from podcasting?
Is you knew I needed a break from what we

(07:25):
were doing at work.

Speaker 5 (07:26):
I needed a break from cooking.

Speaker 6 (07:28):
You needed a break from cooking.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Exactly, we all need breaks.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
I needed a break from being alone.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Well, yes, that's that's the most important.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
But because what happens is you become a recluse to
your job.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
You become ten twelve hour days because there's nothing to
come home to but a TV.

Speaker 5 (07:45):
And going off. What she's saying, like that is absolutely
true that I don't think people realize that job a job. Okay, yes,
a career. It can be people's careers. But for people,
like the wife said in our age bracket, most of
us have already had our careers. Like I was a
twenty year veteran in the United States Army. You've been

(08:06):
working for the government for how long she's had her
own company. You've had your own company. It's more than
It's like what we're doing now, It's like if you
told me I could go home and garden and hunt
and fish take care of the wife of the trophy housing. Dude,
I'm all about it.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
That's the four years.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yeah, husband, I love it because I like I sked
thell En tirement. I said, I'm so excited about him
getting ready to prepare for retirement, and he doesn't really
think about that. You've spent thirty years with one company
and then you've turned around and started another.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Whole new career with another.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
With the organization of the government, right, you get to
the point where when is enough going to be enough?
Hundred person, I would rather have you be a house
hubby and hang around and be happy and do what
you want to do. Then to keep thinking that the
world that you owe him something. You've done your time.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
Who knows. I'll start my own podcast.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
There you go, There you go.

Speaker 6 (08:58):
You and Chris can start checking together own ship.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah, we got Italians down over the father.

Speaker 5 (09:07):
You here can't track now.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
I am just Rabbi mob.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
We're just gonna well because your nickname at work is
always father. That's how I was going to do to him.

Speaker 5 (09:21):
I just like to for everybody that he is nor
a father in necessity wears a thing around his neck white,
nor is he a rabbi that he hate wears a
big hat. Okay, everybody's tracking right, go on with your going.

Speaker 6 (09:39):
Needing a break is so. And we all worked together
at one point or another in the last six years.
We all worked and traveled and and did great things.
And it came to a point where when I left
the position working with you guys, I was almost embarrassed
to tell people that I needed a break. And I

(10:00):
started having people ask me, oh my god, why did
you leave? And you know, why did you leave your position?
And people aspire to get into where you were, And
I'm like, that's cool, that's great, but I needed a break.
I was going to proverbially hurt somebody if I didn't
take that break. And I was talking to a friend

(10:22):
of mine who works at the Navy, and she was
saying how she needs a break, but she can't do
it because she loves her job and people rely on her.
And I'm sitting here thinking to myself, no, man like
you are in your fifties, you need a break, and
tell him.

Speaker 5 (10:38):
I used to tell you all the time. Same thing
about the army trains keeps going, And honestly, when you're gone,
no one really cares.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Thank you hellout.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
No, they'll be that little minker of someone who misses
you because they relied on you so much, exactly, and
they feel that how are they going to function function
without you?

Speaker 3 (10:59):
Right? But that goes away relatively quickly.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
You're absolutely right that if one thing taught me in
the commercial world is that no one's indispensable and everybody.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Exactly.

Speaker 5 (11:14):
It's almost like if my best way to equate it
is like a restaurant, Okay, no matter what, there's another
restaurant you can go try out. You know, there's another
place you can always go and sample something else. But
when you're gone and you've left the restaurant, most people

(11:35):
want to remember your name, except if you go to
certain restaurant's way too many times, they're like, you, guys,
haven't been here in a while.

Speaker 6 (11:40):
Then you're like, oh, boycot, see how much money you've
been spending now.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
But that analogy is really good because because you go
to a restaurant frequently and a chef could leave, the
wait staff could leave, and it becomes mediocre. Ye but
you're still married to the fact that this is my
favorite place. Yes, even though I don't like the food anymore.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
You know, I'm out of here right and I'm never
coming back. So what we do is we stay in
that that that bubble.

Speaker 5 (12:11):
Yes, But like I was toning Jen, is that the
other last two weekends ago when we all went out
to brunch and what not? Yes, I told her. When
we left, I was like, I'm very sad, and I
was like, we can't go back there because they changed
the menu because I was so looking forward to a
particular item because it was so good. I did, like
I literally, like I.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Really did.

Speaker 5 (12:34):
I did a little bit. I mean like I was like,
are you serious? Like, okay, listen to people.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (12:40):
When I got out of the Army, I went to
culinary school in case y'all didn't know, and I did
savory pastry on my own business with the wife, and
you know, I kind of moonlight in other places. But
it's very hard to find a serious croaked mado in
this you sound, so you know what It's true. It's
really true. But a good croake, madam, is just so good.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
Okay, are you done?

Speaker 6 (13:14):
So you know I'm always interested to hear how people
are where they are in their careers. Again, you know,
we've all had businesses, we've all had our first careers,
and this is supposed to be what I refer to
as our sunset career, right right out into the wind.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Here we go.

Speaker 6 (13:28):
Let's just get this go and get it done and
move out. But you become, to your point, Carmine, married
to the job. You become emotionally invested. And I just
love the fact that you said you needed a break
and you turned the off switch, the switch to off
rather and said I'm taking this break, and it was.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
For your health.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
And but it was difficult it because you know, I've
been podcasting for almost eight years, and then when you
think about having an interview almost three hundred people in
the eight years, and amount of work and time and
effort it goes to it. I felt like I was
going to be disappointing too many people. I still have
people reaching out to me every week, Hey, I Cannect,

(14:09):
we want to get on your podcast.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
I got this person that you want I.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Need you to interview.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
But nobody thinks about what goes on in the background now.
And it wasn't just the podcasting.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
It was all the other business stuff that I literally
was running a full time business, and a lot of
people don't realize that even though you have a career,
a part of my career in life was about doing
my businesses and taking a break from the business and
going back into the work world.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Now that people don't understand, why do you do that?

Speaker 5 (14:34):
Right? Let me ask you how did that make you feel?

Speaker 2 (14:38):
It was at first it was kind of like, you know,
I miss what you know. I really enjoyed working for myself.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
I don't have to answer anybody, but there was people that,
excuse me, that depended on me, So it's a little different.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Your attitude is very different about what you're doing.

Speaker 5 (14:53):
But depending on you for work, I mean, you know the.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Paycheck that you know, I'm you know, they me to
make sure I'm giving them their money. They needed to survive.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
So when you're making those types of decisions, it's you know,
what is really going to be valuable and what isn't
going to be valuable.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
But what I needed to do was realize that.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
I had to take some time off, and then when
you asked me to come back, I struggled for a minute,
but I really did because I was really starting to
rebuild something that I thought was amazing, being able to
do a lot of corpor to corp type business work,
building a brand that was truly coming to fruition. It
was no longer just about helping people write books, helping

(15:36):
people set up podcasts, helping them see their vision. My
vision was starting to elevate. But then I was also
at the same time worn out. I had been doing
this for years.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
I was starting to just I.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Don't want to be here anymore scenario in my mind.
It just everything was starting to come to a head.
So taking this break that I took has been beyond
what I thought I could ever be. So in this
break time that I have been out for doing your podcasting.

Speaker 5 (16:03):
Your aha moment came.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
My aha moment came. Now I'm a married woman. Never
thought about getting remarried. We're going to and we will
have a separate podcast. But it's like everything has changed
by seven months. This last seven months of my life
has been tremendous. But it's been the best part because
I can have been able to rely not just on
myself and be able to have a partner in life

(16:27):
where I can truly grow with until the day I'm
no longer here and we have Like I said, there
will be another podcast, but it's just understanding your role
and understanding where you're at in your life. And like say,
I'm in my mid fifties almost sixties, so it's I'm
just truly ready to slow down and I'm there and
so doing this again.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
I wasn't being forced into it. I decided I really
want to get back into it, but on my own terms. Right,
there's a choice, and there's a choice.

Speaker 5 (16:53):
And when at the beginning of this year twenty four,
I had to have a shirt conversation with her about
Chris's dishes that I was I was honestly, it came
to it for came to fruition because of an incident
that happened in twenty two two. Yeah twenty two was

(17:15):
it twenty two? It was, yeah, twenty two where I
not to like kill the mood, but I went out
and I contemplated doing something really stupid to myself, okay,
and it was doing doing something that I really am
very passionate about, you know, and going out hunting, and
I was like, I'm days a day. But ten years

(17:37):
ago I would have been like I'm going to attempt this.
I went home and I told her, and I was like, wow,
that is just a ballsy thing to do, to tell
your wife what you were about to do. So I
had to go. I started seeing a doc again. But
it got to the beginning of the end of twenty
three and I did a party on my birthday down
in a place in Virginia, yep, two and a half

(17:59):
hours away. Drove there, did the party, drove back out
home at like two o'clock in the morning, got up,
started unpacked. The next day, got up, started unpacking, cleaning everything,
so on and so forth. And then I realized I
was like, I am doing exactly what I was doing
when I was in the army. This is nothing more
than like planning, planning to go to the field for
five six days and coming back and be totally exhausted.

(18:21):
And then what does that do. It's like, I'm missing
my time with my wife. So that was my reason
for taking a break. But then also, you know, when
I started Christ's Dishes, I was going to culinary school,
I was had a big nine to five job, and
I was starting to try try to run a business,
and it it just drove me into the ground. So

(18:42):
now when you said, aha moment, I've had some moments
where I'm like, ah, that's great. Ah, oh okay, I
could do that and then but it's now I see
where you're at and like the thought process of like
having someone to converse with it and make it happen.
Like she had her own nine to five routine, and

(19:06):
you know, I tried to like we tried to do
as much as we could with Chris's dishes. But at
the same time, I was like, I know she was
very determined to be, you know, number one at what
she did, so I was like, Okay, I'm gonna do
a lot of this, Like, oh, she helped as much
as possible. And now it's like I have a thought
in my head which I've played with with her out loud,

(19:27):
just bits and pieces here and there, but I want
to like this could work in this fashion, but not
take away from the time with her because they probably
could include her and she doesn't know anything about this.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
So.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Tell me the whole, the whole, the.

Speaker 5 (19:47):
Whole thing behind this is like you, yeah, that was
my first hitting just so we know, but the whole,
the whole where I was going with this between need
and a break and come back to the aha moment,
Like there is a particular time, especially for people who
have gone. For me, it was from the age of
eighteen on the twenty fourth of July nineteen ninety seven,

(20:08):
when I had my head shaved, to the thirty first
of July twenty seventeen, I was one thousand miles an hour,
And on the August first of twenty seventeen, I was
one mile an hour and it was rough.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
Stopped.

Speaker 5 (20:23):
Yeah, it's literally stopped.

Speaker 6 (20:25):
Carmen, Are you expecting to hear that hit that one
mile per hour?

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Are you ready for that one mile hour?

Speaker 4 (20:29):
I'm decreasing my speed as I go along, are yeah?
I seriously, you know, I never thought that. I thought
that before she came into my life. I really thought
that I was going to work till I die, And
that was like the stupidest thing to even think about it, right,
because because I can never imagine stopping or slowing down, right,

(20:52):
but being married again and being in life again, I
love it. It proves the fact that you can decelerate.
You just need a plan to do that because work
is not.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
As important as it is the relationship.

Speaker 5 (21:12):
Because you're not gonna take that well wrong exactly.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
No matter how much money you save, no matter how
big the house, big, the house.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
Is, whatever you buy to put in it. When you leave,
everything's somebody's gonna be making a decision where it's gonna go. Now.
Obviously we got kids. Great, they're gonna get someone, but
they're not gonna want everything we have.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
But they want us around, right exactly. And I'm now
being a grandpa. I want to be around Luna, and
and I don't want to be worried about oh ship,
I can't take off from work. I'm gonna take off
from work.

Speaker 5 (21:44):
Yeah. So like that's like going back to what just
happened lately with us. It's like I went back to
a new job for the third time, the same at
the same place. Really really really it was just to
help somebody out. But like she made a comment and

(22:04):
I've been really thinking about it. And but we we
have her and I we have an ad goal and
but it's where we work. There is no happiness there,
Oh my god, no, no one like like the level
of what's the right word, the lack of leadership, well

(22:30):
that too. The mora, the morale is gone. Yeah, it's gone.
It's like it's it's so bad that it tasts people
to stand up to other people. So like, I'll give
you a really good example. The other day, somebody came
in and said, hey, we got to start doing this,
and I was like, uh no, we're.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
Not doing that.

Speaker 5 (22:51):
And I just got the look. And now, mind you,
I'm on my third day, in the third or fourth
day in the office, and everybody was like, what just happened?
Like it was like it was a brand new thing.
You can't say no oh, but the way I said
it was abruptly and you guys know that. The face
and you guys know that. And it may not sound
like it, but I'm a very a man of very

(23:12):
few words. But when I say things, I know what
I'm talking about and I will back it up. And
I and I have I'm pointing for the viewers who
can't see anything to the wife here is you know,
I have my arsenal of tools to back things up.
So it was like, hey, we need to do this.
I'll like I started rallying things all like, that's not
my job, that's your supervisor. That's a super government supervisors job,

(23:36):
because that's what they're tasked to do, I'm not doing
your job, and I just went on about my business
and everybody was just like, well, okay, so here we go.

Speaker 6 (23:45):
It's interesting. People might not realize. So the four of
us all worked in the same organization.

Speaker 5 (23:50):
At one point right in different everybody here has been
a contractor government.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
Yes, ask me.

Speaker 5 (24:00):
I've never been contracted the whole time.

Speaker 6 (24:02):
But so when you left, right, we still carried the
torch to Chris's point, you know, still goes forward. And
then I had my I need a break, and I left,
and you guys are still there, and now Chris is
back there.

Speaker 5 (24:15):
Im I the only one that stuck it out for
some reason.

Speaker 4 (24:20):
And I.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
Remind me to say this later. Okay, right, it's it's
it's like that ride that is not ended yet and
I want it never but we'll talk about that later.

Speaker 6 (24:39):
It's interesting. So if you look it from the outside,
which I've been doing from the outside, looking in, I
realized how toxic I became. And I was. I was
so solely focused to make sure that everybody succeeded, and
I never let people, not that I never let I
did let certain people fail with intention, but.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
With intention.

Speaker 6 (25:03):
But when I got to the point where I knew
that I was being let down not by people who
worked with me and not by the team who worked
under my direction, but by my leadership. That's when I
was like, I need a break, I need to recaliber myself,
and I need to reconnect to my spouse because we're

(25:24):
not getting any younger. There are more years behind us
that are in front of us. Let's let's be real
and it's quality over quantity at this point.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
All right, And.

Speaker 5 (25:35):
I'm gonna preface this love you don't want me to
kick you.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
I love you a lot. You hurt that hard, Okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
But you still have travel on that ship.

Speaker 5 (25:47):
Twenty twenty four for the Chavas household has probably about
been one of the best years we've ever had together,
just because it's like thirty.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
Years has that been going on? Jesus?

Speaker 5 (26:02):
Wow? There, yeah, going on eleven took you this long
to have a good year?

Speaker 8 (26:07):
Well, no, this is what the people are going to
But when I'm saying to be eleven years before I'm
happy in my marriage seven years.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
That's what's gonna happen.

Speaker 5 (26:22):
So what I really meant to say was what it
happened with is that like there was no go go, go,
go go for anyone else. It was go go, go
go for us. Like we we have our little things
that we do all the time. Like right now we're
watching Bizarre Food America with Andrew zimmer zimmer Zim. Sorry

(26:45):
I butchered it. But we went clamming one year on
the eastern short of Virginia and she she she found
a place where you drove met a guy had a
couple of I actually paddled to the spot and he'd
watched you for like two and a half hours through
the processice how it all works and how to get

(27:07):
the clams. And you picked up your own clams. You
took them back and we actually I made klamling glean
in white wine sauce. It was by far one of
the one of those experiences you're just like, this is awesome,
this is great. Now, going back to my statement about
twenty twenty four, that's what this has been like. This
whole year has been exactly like that experiences.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Not just go go go, Yeah exactly exactly.

Speaker 6 (27:32):
You guys know, because yeah, we travel for work and
it's not your traveling on a Monday and coming back Tuesday. No, No,
it's you're out Monday, and if it's a good week,
you're coming home Thursday or Friday if you're lucky, right,
I mean, we're not all heading off to Miami for
two weeks.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Right, exactly. It's worked well, exactly for some people.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Yeah, but every now and then you got an idiot
that will decide to bring a captive work that shouldn't bring.
Somebody who decides that they're just not gonna go to
the site and anywhere.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
I'm gonna go hang out somewhere else and never show
up for work.

Speaker 6 (28:12):
Exactly to that, you guys independently.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
It's on my phone.

Speaker 6 (28:20):
I look at it every now and again for a laugh.
You guys kept going and going and going, and at
some point there was an aha moment where y'all realized
that you wanted to be together and that's amazing.

Speaker 5 (28:36):
And then oh, yeah that before you jump over to me,
do I get to kick you again. We're going to
revisit that because I think that is a story that
needs to be told for everyone to hear.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
For bringing her back.

Speaker 5 (28:53):
Remember she left.

Speaker 6 (29:00):
Touch on that. So when I think about that, like, yeah,
we won one hundred miles an hour because we had
a mission we had our own mission, like we wanted
to get a certain amount of money in the bank
and a certain amount of things done and needed to
rebuild and coping with his PTSD and coping with my
transitions into this life that we lived down here, absolutely

(29:21):
very different, significantly different than what one might be used to.
You made big adjustments also in your personal life, prim
I huge adjustments so to sit back and say, Okay,
I'm in my fifties, right, so I'll be fifty two
in December, and what do I have.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
And what do I truly need?

Speaker 6 (29:43):
And it wasn't until I looked at him and I
said I need a break. I can't continue to do this.
I would come home a miserable, cantankerous wretch and that's
truly what.

Speaker 5 (29:56):
I was, and sometimes I was even she worked from home.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Yes, wow, yeah, I mean well yeah, because you had
no peace even when you're at home. No, you were
literally at the point where I know you were working
seven days a week. And the reason why I knew
is that you get up on a Monday, you'd see emails,
you know, Sunday or Saturday, late in the evening and it's.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
Just like, what is this worth?

Speaker 5 (30:18):
And for you, and I'm sorry, but I will say this,
and you know you can say what it is. But
for the organizations that email people on the weekend, shame
on you. Yeah, absolutely shame on you for taking not
just for like intruding on your employees or your workers time,
but on your own family.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
That's more than anything.

Speaker 5 (30:40):
That's an absolute shameful.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
But we live in a society that tells you that
all the person who can outwork the next person is
going to be the one who wins. And at the
end of the day, yeah, you may win for a minute,
but when you die off or when you decide to
walk up there down give like said we were talking earlier,
they don't give a two cents about who you really are,
what you've accomplished, and what you've truly done. And you
can give me a million certificates, it does not change

(31:06):
how I've become or who I've become because of the
situation that you know, they keep you in because they
make you feel like if you don't do this, you're
not gonna make it here. You got to be elevated there,
you know, tell us what your career is going to be, like,
what do you want to be when you want.

Speaker 5 (31:21):
To grow up.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
I know what I want to be. I don't need
you to tell me how I need to be. And
that's part of the problem, right, And.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Her mine knows I'm that Israel individual will tell you
f off at a minute, I.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Don't have time for your nonsense.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
And she'll tell you the best story that when we
were on the call, she said, the look on your face,
and I just can't help it.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
And one of those individuals that don't have time for
the nonsense. I've got work to do.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
I want to get it done. I want to get
it done in time and manner. I don't need you
to sit here and play games with me when we're
in a meeting. You know, we got things we need
to do, right, So, but to kind of go back
to where we're all talking, it's just it's the reality
of what we've become, and we truly understand what it
means to grow up right. And I think that's where
it's really about, is that sometimes we don't sit back

(32:07):
and think, you know, you hear that word, well, what
do you want to become when you grow up? I
already know what I am now. I just need for
you to leave me alone, so I can get there.
And it's not that you don't appreciate having a job,
because we know without having those jobs or running a
business or whatever the case may be, because you depend
on people for everything. Right, So at the end of
the day, without having these items, you can't live the
way we live. And we've made the choice to live

(32:29):
that we the way we want to live. I can
sit around and do nothing all day and get my
little government check and be good, but that's not the
life I want to live.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
So let's be clear that we all worked or worked
or work in the same place, and this is not
this discussion is not specific to the government work that
we do.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
It's specific to life in general.

Speaker 5 (32:53):
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Yeah, in the commercial world it's.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
The same, and in the government world it's the same.
There's always someone who feels that they know what the
direction is. And I've learned to accept change. It's it's
always there, it's constant, and you go with it, and
you have that moment where you say, I told them so,
but they didn't want to listen. But that's that's that

(33:18):
is something that needs to happen naturally. So I just
wanted to say that, you know, we're not. We're not
and it's not.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
But at the end of the day, people can still relate, right, Yes,
somebody is going to relate to every one of our
stories and connect with it because this is the real
world we live in. Society has made it very difficult
to make you feel like you. People become feel like
there are nobody when they because they don't feel like
they've excelled because everybody's sonning.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
You have to have it itself.

Speaker 6 (33:45):
You have to have exactly it's every day, not a
real housewife or one of those reality TV shows or
socialize you know, yeah.

Speaker 5 (33:53):
I mean it's not. I mean reality everything. Like I'm
going off car is like, is you want a real
look at like what it means to be nobody and
get paid nothing? Go work in a restaurant mm hmm
bus boy yeah straight, yeah, like twelve dollars an hour
and you know you're paying sixty seventy dollars for a meal.

(34:17):
And it's like, you know, we we we as a society,
have our values and our priorities backwards.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Absolutely absolutely like looking at so let's absolutely we all
call it what it is.

Speaker 6 (34:31):
You know, So private sector, my entire life owned multiple businesses,
and I still was pushing myself because I needed to
have the shoes or I wanted to have the watch.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Or the howst you know that persona that we're also, Yeah,
the Jones is right, right, Jones.

Speaker 6 (34:50):
The Jones is the Smith.

Speaker 5 (34:51):
We all had it. Thomas Thomas, Cindy Thomas. Sorry, it's
a running it's a running inside joke between the Chavis family.

Speaker 6 (35:00):
You know, when we look at these we need a
break moments. It doesn't matter if you are a hairstylist,
if you are a nail tech, if you are a barber,
a cook. The industry's not the point. It's how do
we put ourselves into the position where we say, is
what we're doing benefiting us personally and our families and

(35:23):
those that we care about. And I would like to
think that maybe people will have their AHA moments when
they should, and that there is a regardless of what
deity or non deity you believe in, but there is
an energy that.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
You get an emotion.

Speaker 6 (35:39):
So that's how I knew it was for me, is
that I had this emotion that I felt disconnected in
my life outside of that office, and I knew that
if I wanted to continue to be in a good
place for myself physically, mentally, emotionally, and with my spouse
again also intimately the spouse.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
You are.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
At least this person.

Speaker 6 (36:04):
Is it nice to you?

Speaker 3 (36:05):
I mean, I love.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
You?

Speaker 6 (36:11):
Know what funny is that?

Speaker 5 (36:12):
For all my veterans, for all my veterans out there,
just know I am the veteran?

Speaker 3 (36:20):
Do you say that?

Speaker 5 (36:21):
Like his name?

Speaker 6 (36:22):
I don't ever really call him Chris, So it's like
when he called me Jen before, It's like, who are
you talking to?

Speaker 4 (36:28):
So I.

Speaker 6 (36:31):
People think about their place and their time of what
they're doing. They say, oh, you know what, maybe I
do need a break, and there's nothing wrong with it.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
And whether that's a week or.

Speaker 6 (36:41):
Two weeks or change of career like my career shift,
my break and changing my entire thing of what I
was doing. Yeah, it was scary. It's still scary, but
at the same time it was needed. And I love
the fact that you did that for yourself when it
came to your podcasting and to your business. Look, I'm

(37:04):
not gonna lie to you. I was stoked as all
hell when you said you were going to come back,
So right on, we're gonna get shit done. But at
the same token that was what was right for you
at the time. So huge kudos for that recognition for
self awareness, and it also afforded you the ability to
to cuff your hobby.

Speaker 5 (37:24):
Oh yeah, so let's get let's let's that's a great
you know segue. How did that happen? Because I will
I will tell you right now, like from where we were,
where we all have worked at, been working at since
I got there in twenty eighteen.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
I've known you too.

Speaker 4 (37:45):
Yeah, we've all been there a while, so we knew
each other a long time because we worked together, right,
and but we never really Kim was the person that
came to who yelled across the aisle.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
You people need to get there. You need people need
to get your funk out of here because you're making
too much noise. It's basically how she came off.

Speaker 4 (38:05):
She came off straight up bitch and threw people out
of my cube. The dicks of the world right would
be there for hours. I said, don't you have a
job to do? But then again I allowed that.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
To happen, and I never saw her as a bitch
or or person.

Speaker 5 (38:25):
I love how you come back around like because my
question is, like, boy, I wonder what happens back to
back in the back room in this house.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
But what is the question you really wanted to have
this whole?

Speaker 5 (38:39):
Yeah, I mean, like we've heard the story and we
know how it went down for you too, but like, honestly,
prior to that, what kind of what led up to it?

Speaker 4 (38:49):
So what led up to it was many very many
months of therapy. Therapy had nothing to do with anything
other than work life balance and the ghosts in the
closet and unboxing the closet. Ashley, you know, Ashley, she's perfect,

(39:12):
you know, thank you for turning me on to her shoes,
she was, Yeah, and I.

Speaker 5 (39:17):
Didn't, you know, I just want everybody to understand there,
like the statement that he made that Ashley is his therapist.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
Right.

Speaker 6 (39:29):
When you share that one.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
But but but yeah, that's a different, different podcast. But
but you know, as I I changed my way of
looking at.

Speaker 4 (39:39):
Things and thinking of things, and it's not what's important
in my life at this point in time.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
So along comes she comes back.

Speaker 4 (39:50):
No big deal. It was just another work relationship. And
then we went out several several.

Speaker 9 (39:58):
After right, and but not by ourselves, by ourselves, hang
out with other people and saw she saw me in
a different light I saw her because working, you know,
all you see is the professional bullshit that goes on
and the interaction that goes on you don't see, you know, let.

Speaker 5 (40:15):
My hair down, although I don't have any hair, but
I let I feel you, and.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
And it was a different atmosphere, right, So it says, hey,
this is someone I'd like to spend more time with,
and it became accelerated. Let's put it this way.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
So a little subtle difference is about, you know, hey,
can I walk you to your car and go?

Speaker 1 (40:38):
But there things you did before we even went out,
Like there was things shown up on my desk. I
didn't even know coffee would get there, flowers and beyond
my desk. I'm like, I'm asking everybody else with the chick,
I mean some there were subtle things going on. And
even prior to that, I remember you telling me that
the one day I was fussing at your work with you,

(40:58):
I got in trouble.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
I got in trouble. The man got in trouble.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
To remember how our leadership would get mad about how
the men would come in dressed yes, yes, yes, and
the lumberjack, the.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
Lumberjack lumberjackson Calas. He dressed like the lumberjack yes, And
I was like, oh, thank you, thank.

Speaker 10 (41:16):
You, sir.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
May I have another? But the one day he can't.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
He's went back to being who he really was and
how he dressed. And I complimented, and I was like, oh,
you need to wear blue more often, and he said
that triggered something.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
That triggered something.

Speaker 4 (41:33):
Somebody took the time to not call me a lumberjack
but said, hey, blue looks good on you.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
You should do you know.

Speaker 4 (41:39):
So it was at the compliment there and then then
it was on the fast track. Without going into too
much time with with with what happened. She was in
Maryland visiting her son. Yeah, and I was in New
Jersey visiting my sister, who was a holiday and I said,

(42:03):
you know, I really like being here, but I want
to get out of here because I want to see Kimberlaine.
She was on our way home and and granted, I'm
five hours away from Virginia and she's too right, and
it's like I must have broke the last speed record
because all of a sudden it was like.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
I probably got home. It was definitely a two hour
trip in like thirty minutes later, I was call hey,
I'm back in town. I'm like, yeah, would you do
back here?

Speaker 1 (42:35):
You know, I'm thinking I'll be late in the afternoon,
no big deal. He's like, I'm here, let me put
my stuff away. I gotta come out and see you. Okay,
He's like, you need to talk to you.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
We knew.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
I think I really knew, actually that because it was
Thanksgiving last year, right before Thanksgiving last year when we
when you because he kept coming.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Up here to Dumfries right, kept coming out, moving to Dumphries.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
Stupid me. I signed a.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
You couldn't wait.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
Because I needed to get out of my place.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
But it was at the restaurant.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
It was at Maclas.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
We're standing in the rain.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
It rained so hard the day before Thanksgiving. Because he
was leaving that next day and he called me at work.
He's like, hey, you want to meet me for dinner.
I'm like sure, I said, but I'm literally like thirty
forty minutes away. I'm trying to get through this traffic.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
I was running late.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Leaving from work and he waited.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
He waited for me at Montclaire until I got there,
and I was like, okay, this is cool. So we
had dinner, spent I don't know, probably about two hours
in that place, in our the same little booth we
like to sit in. And it was the leaving part
that is where I realized he's standing in the rain.
I have an umbrella, but he's buying his car, nothing

(43:51):
over his head, and he's just standing there and he's
looking at me. It's like, are you okay? He's like yeah,
And I said, well, you know, text me you're coming.
Let me know you made it to your sisters, you
know that you're okay. And his remark smart remark as usual, Well,
he says, I only do that to my girlfriend. I said, well,
you're looking at her okay.

Speaker 6 (44:13):
Literally, but at.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
That moment I knew.

Speaker 4 (44:18):
You.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
No, that was that was two or three weeks later.
You asked me you waited two or three weeks literally.
He was such a gentleman, such a gentleman all the
way through.

Speaker 6 (44:28):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
But yeah, but we we we texted back and forth
a little bit on on Thanksgiving Dad he had that
night too.

Speaker 10 (44:35):
No, I'm like, no, you're a gentleman about that too.
You asked for everything before.

Speaker 4 (44:46):
You take, So that's that's the And then well, how
it accelerated. Was was another story. I don't we want
to go into it now.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
We don't have to mean, we'll talk about it again later,
but yeah, it was.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
It was very quick. Checking out Christmas gifts is how
it started.

Speaker 5 (45:10):
Got it.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
He's a good Santa too, Santa's are important. Yeah, he's
a Santa all year round.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
I love it.

Speaker 6 (45:18):
Santa are saying, wait, hold it up. Hopefully not a
saint just but yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
So yeah, there's definitely more in a story, and we'll
come back to it.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
But yeah, I mean I think in general that we're
all just at that point in Isaac we said, you
know that we just we want to slow down.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
We have slowed down.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
We're taking each one of us have to take different
steps because we're all kind of in different places as individuals, right,
So that's.

Speaker 5 (45:46):
A part of it.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
Even though you know we're couples and we're married, we
still have things.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
That we're all individual, Yeah, that we individual like to do, and.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
We're still trying to work around. I mean even you know,
for me, nineteen years of being by myself and then
all of a sudden, now I'm remarried again. It's just
like whoa, Okay, my thoughts. But you know the best
part about I thought I was gonna really struggle with
having to share for for being after being by myself
all those years.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
But it has been the best. It has been so
much fun to be able to know I.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
Can get up every day and we actually have a
lot of our best conversations when.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
And we just sit there and just talk about the
craziest it gets.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
It gets so stupid at times.

Speaker 4 (46:27):
We're just laughing about silly ship and it's really nice
because it's like.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
And just get and we love the shop. And have
you ever I've never met anybody who loves Costco as much.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
As he does.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
Costco grocery shop. Yeah, we had to stop the weekly Costco.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
I had to talk about this, okay, because if you're
looking for a wonderful husband and tell you about.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
He's gonna your new husband.

Speaker 5 (47:00):
There you go there you like like you can do
you can like go for the over forty crown For
the guys who aren't married yet, like, let me train you.
I'm going to show you how to be the Yeah
there a trophy. Husbands looking for the sophisticated words don't
have to be you don't have to be ripped, yeah, exactly, exactly,

(47:21):
flowing hair.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
These are the things that we win.

Speaker 4 (47:25):
You win your wife's respect and adoration and love.

Speaker 5 (47:30):
What are you looking at me?

Speaker 2 (47:32):
I was trying to imagine hair.

Speaker 5 (47:36):
There is no there. There is one picture, and that's
me with holding my baby brother and I was like four,
he was like two. It's like flowy, curly hair. Other
than that, we don't know what happened. I ended up
like my father, uh so.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
But but it's the truth.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
It's like, you know, everybody has this perspective about what
they think through, who they're going to marry, what their
life is going to look like, right, you know, because
because what you're visualize and see every day, it's about
what society tells you that it's supposed to be like,
or what your family tells you you're supposed to be like,
or some of your friends think you're supposed to who
you think you're supposed to be with, or what you're

(48:11):
supposed to be doing.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Right, But the reality is that to have a wonderful
husband like I.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
Have, who cooks, cleans, loves the grocery shop, loves to
go shopping with me. I mean, there's nothing that's in
this house that we haven't done together. And I'm actually
I'm actually going to line dancing and.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
Go line dancing with me.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
Yes, we.

Speaker 5 (48:36):
Up here at the Clonehouse.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
You know, we live in the old folks community.

Speaker 6 (48:40):
So I love we know about everything about that comment.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
But it's the truth is it's so much fun that
we're really broadening and opening up as a couple doing
things that we have never done before.

Speaker 5 (48:58):
The balloon ride.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
If you had not told us about the balloon ride,
that was so fun.

Speaker 4 (49:06):
We met some very strange people, yes we did, but
not strange, but no, they were very nice, very nice people.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
I don't mean strange.

Speaker 5 (49:11):
You guys kind of y'all one up to us because like,
she didn't do We didn't do the blue ride.

Speaker 6 (49:16):
We did the plane.

Speaker 5 (49:17):
We did the biplane ride. And let me tell you,
when you're sitting there, you know, she's sitting on my
lad the guy's behind me, like this is awkward. Okay,
So I didn't say that, right. It's a biplane. There's
a part of it that separated with the pilot behind me. Yeah, yeah,
never mind.

Speaker 6 (49:32):
So what's funnier is that I was sitting with there
with my camera taking pictures of the hot air balloons
that were.

Speaker 5 (49:38):
Oh god, oh have you never seen her hot air
balloon picture that she took in the plane.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
It is epic.

Speaker 5 (49:46):
It's like, is by far one of the greatest pictures
that she even has one of it. One just lifting
off the ground but you can't see the ground, but
it looks like it's literally you're like, I could see
the stitching on this balloon. That's how close.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
Oh my gosh, it's gorgeous.

Speaker 6 (50:04):
Did you go in the checkered one, the red, white, blue,
yellow one, Yes, that's the one we were in.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
That was the one that was tethered and going up
and yeah, but it was still high up in the ground.
Oh you didn't know, Oh no, because that was like
three or four miles.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
So they would take take off yeah, and then go.

Speaker 5 (50:24):
Yeah so and then just dropped off and then you
drove back. Yeah. So that was like they had one
like that were we down by us and you could
take off and we would just watch this one for
like hours or like is that we're going down? Like
how far is that out? Just like twenty miles out.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
But the other experience was scary, yeah, because you think
that when you're standing on the ground looking up. You
really think that you're not going up very far. But
when you're actually inside that.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Balloon, you didn't look down, did you?

Speaker 4 (50:55):
Yeah, of course I did.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
I was taking pictures, you know, and we went to die.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
If we fell out, that broke a leg.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
Yeah, you would hurt yourself because you were really pretty
far up there and there and then and especially.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
We met this it was just special, very special.

Speaker 4 (51:13):
He was.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Crying, he was he said he was gonna cry.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
He was almost himself. I was doing some liquid courage
before getting on.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
Yeah, it was very scared.

Speaker 5 (51:26):
Did you all go to the soda ice cream shop
down there?

Speaker 3 (51:30):
No, we didn't.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
So the antique story. Oh we've seen the anti store.

Speaker 4 (51:35):
We didn't stop and remember yeah there right, you know
that that road going there was really going there.

Speaker 11 (51:43):
She's going just one way. There'll be cars coming towards us.
Oh yeah, way back on the way back pitch black.
So we're not stopping there, even if it was open.

Speaker 3 (51:55):
But but what was I going with this?

Speaker 4 (51:57):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
You're having a moment.

Speaker 5 (52:02):
It's okay, that is a nice area, Like we we
go down there quite a bit, like, yeah it's beautiful, yeah, tabhanic, Yeah,
that's a cute little area.

Speaker 4 (52:14):
So yeah, well we had a good time come back
there again to explore some other things that were going on.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
But it's definitely it's definitely a different part of the world.

Speaker 5 (52:25):
I mean, you get that here. So that was one
thing that one absolute thing I loved about doing the
dishes is that even from where where we live, right,
you go ten miles left, ten miles south, ten miles
twenty miles right, you're in the country and there's some

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places back there where you're like, why do people in Virginia.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
Not know about these places?

Speaker 5 (52:50):
Like you you, A lot of people don't know where
they can go to find quality things like just I mean,
for me, it's food. I mean even today we were
watching TV show and something about Wagoo beef and uh
we I know, there is a lady who comes up
our way and I got to talking to d because

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she was at our farmer's margat. I was like, I'm
gonna get a thing of wagoo beef and we're gonna
have it, We're gonna try it, blah blah blah, and
just we spent thirty minutes talking and I was like, oh,
I'm gonna be late to chemi yea.

Speaker 4 (53:22):
Unless you go out to these places, you're in this
little circle and you only stand there, you don't know
what else is out there, right exactly.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
Yeah, there's definitely a lot of nice stuff around our community,
and we've been trying to find different places every week
if we can, every weekend, and whether it's eating or
you know, whether it's just trying something new and have
realized that.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
Did I come unplugging you're kind of.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Yeah, okay, well that yeah, okay, miss great conversations. Can
you hear better?

Speaker 5 (53:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (53:58):
But yeah, so the you know, the key is trying
to do something new in your community. A lot of
people are so stuck and I just want to be
in the city, so to speak. And obviously this is
not the city, DC is the actual state. But there's
so many nice things that you can do right here.
And we are experiencing Manasas because we're close to Manassas
and then all the other outer things in our community

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and it's it's it's been.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
Fun you guys.

Speaker 5 (54:22):
Yeah you get I mean like you has got a
great NASAs has a great downtown.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
Absolutely, we've been there.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
Yeah, yeah, we even ventured into the over there.

Speaker 6 (54:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (54:35):
God, bless you.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
It's actually growing that they've changed it.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
It's becoming a new I guess they have a new
quarter called the Entertainment Corridor, which.

Speaker 5 (54:45):
Is where we actually place with the go cart in
the back right.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Yes, yes, and they're adding on out there.

Speaker 4 (54:53):
Good place that we at, uh burghers at Manassas right,
because we were hungry before we go into.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
The furnit it was looking specific question had unbelievable burner
and and and the chilly.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
That he made gluten free food there too.

Speaker 6 (55:11):
Really and it's a.

Speaker 4 (55:14):
It's a music bar because they have music venues there.
So what will happen is they'll have a band playing.
Uh they do music bingo where instead of a bingo
card with numbers, it's it's songs.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
And when they played all right.

Speaker 5 (55:27):
Now, that's pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
Yeah, that's pretty cool. I haven't been there yet, but
we're going to go there.

Speaker 6 (55:32):
You're going to play bingo, getting ready for like seventies music.

Speaker 4 (55:37):
I'm going to tell you something I did bingo when
I was young, don't theft because I was like the
youngest person there everything. All these older ladies were there
and they were fawning all over like.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
You're only doing one card is do you need more
than this?

Speaker 4 (55:55):
Is obviously don't know how to play Bengo because it
just look at this and she's got a table full,
like she got twenty cards.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
I says, I'm having a hard time doing one card.
So she goes, come on, I'm going to show you.
She goes by five more cards, did you? Oh yeah?
And she was walking off my ship too.

Speaker 6 (56:17):
Oh girl was multitasking at they called that number.

Speaker 3 (56:20):
You didn't do it.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
I don't even know where I am.

Speaker 6 (56:27):
So she was field checking your ship, is what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (56:29):
She was field checking my stuff. She was checking my homework.
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
That awesome.

Speaker 4 (56:34):
And I was laughing because I thought it was hilarious.
I didn't care whether I won Bingo or not, just
watching who's got the little troll dolls? Who's got the
little like voodoo dolls?

Speaker 3 (56:45):
So like wish and then when they when they hit.

Speaker 6 (56:48):
I don't know about this.

Speaker 5 (56:50):
I've had an Italian grandmother, I know, and Irish grandmother,
believe me, who smoked.

Speaker 6 (56:56):
I'm still trying to imagine sitting there playing bingo.

Speaker 5 (56:59):
I wasn't allowed to play. I had to sit there
like I wasn't there saying.

Speaker 4 (57:07):
Yes, and they were let's well behind kids because they
were probably beaten.

Speaker 5 (57:18):
Yes, yes, because nowadays it's like, let's take our child
to the winery and over the place. Let me tell you,
my father saw me run around here like this. What
tell you what he'd be like, just inching under his
shirt like I'm gonna take this belt off and this
child across.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
To get the look before there was always a spear.

Speaker 5 (57:45):
Look at that, and they'll say ours was the snap
or the whistle. And if you didn't respond to the snap,
if you and the whistle was heard and you didn't
come a run, you were done.

Speaker 6 (57:58):
We got the speech. It's very simple. Sit there, mind
your manners, don't act a fool.

Speaker 5 (58:04):
Yeah, yeah, that's right here. This part is a whole
different day too.

Speaker 3 (58:11):
But there were two things that uh, my mother was
a disciplinary. My father was.

Speaker 4 (58:16):
He would yell, but he wasn't a disciplinary. The two
things I feared the most. My my mother had two things.
One is the wooden spoon she stirred the sauce with.
And they're not made like today's spoons. These were like
oak trees.

Speaker 5 (58:30):
And when you got hit with that one, just the
size of an oak tree.

Speaker 3 (58:33):
The other wise is short.

Speaker 4 (58:34):
I would say maybe twelve thirteen inches of the rubber host,
but not the rubber hose you buy today.

Speaker 3 (58:38):
It had the fibers like you couldn't even bend it.

Speaker 4 (58:43):
That's how.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
And when you got hit with that, you had a welt.

Speaker 6 (58:45):
That was the ship that we used to attached to
the dishwasher.

Speaker 4 (58:48):
In the day.

Speaker 5 (58:49):
Yeah, but nowadays it's like, I'm gonna call the police.
Was like, shut up, it happened to you, like yeah,
and it's not.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
It's the discipline was what they were used to. So
that's how. There's nothing I mean, for good, there's nothing
wrong with that. That's what you're behind us for.

Speaker 5 (59:06):
He's like our parents. Our parents grew up with parents
who like practically lived in the Great Depression. It's like, really,
you want to talk about abuse, like, suck it up, dude,
just shut up, like nothing.

Speaker 3 (59:18):
You can't imagine.

Speaker 6 (59:18):
One of my favorite things Chris's dad would say. He'd
be telling us a story, and you know, Chris, like
I remember that, He's like what did I do?

Speaker 5 (59:26):
And his father's like nothing.

Speaker 6 (59:27):
It was general purpose was to remind you that if
you were to think about being stupid or act a fool.

Speaker 5 (59:33):
I'm gonna he told he told me this one time.
I'm like, what. Of course this also came from the
guy who's like listen and and this is how I
don't remember what we were talking goes listen unlike your brother, right,
who can get a ticket on the first two hours

(59:55):
of getting his driver's license. I was like, Okay, where
is this going? I know this goes you the world's
best drunk driver. I was like, what are you talking about? Man? Yes,
you try better drunk that you do normally.

Speaker 4 (01:00:07):
What what.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
That's me? I don't know what it's all about.

Speaker 5 (01:00:14):
But that's what he told me that you remember that done?

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
Yeah, it was terrible.

Speaker 6 (01:00:18):
So I'm a firm believer that we do and should
always have conversations about today's society and how children are.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Ye would be a different world, and I'm actually thankful.

Speaker 6 (01:00:30):
We had no kids at age now like, no, it's
I wouldn't want a parent in today's then.

Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
It's a different world today than what we grew up
in and what we were accustomed to when we were kids.
And it goes from all the different and we didn't
have cell phones back then, we didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
Have we had internet, we had no proof.

Speaker 5 (01:00:57):
There was no way to provide proof of what happened
unless there was a bruise, bloodied or you didn't show up.

Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
That was it, right, that's it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:06):
But because because when you came home at night, unless
you had those marketings, yeah, there was no question. You know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
But we did some stupid stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:01:17):
I did some that I mean, even like with bullying.
Like my dad would be like, so what did you do?
Did you finish it? And that was all he would say.
You're like, he said, it's okay, I will not get
in trouble. Let's do this. Nowadays, it's like I posted
this on Instagram on my Twitter feed. What are they

(01:01:37):
calling now? It's like really like and deny, deny, Yeah, as.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
I was, I was.

Speaker 5 (01:01:46):
I wasn't even the same state. You're an eight year
old kid. I know I wasn't in the same state.
Figure it out.

Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
That's when you look at the birds. You say, you
was me, are you sure?

Speaker 5 (01:02:01):
Well? Okay, let me let me ask you to this
because we've had this conversation because we hear it from
people at our ship. Y' all know what a furby is.
I never had no, no, no, no, no, no, a
furry furry yeah, different thing. Do you know what a
furry is? No, gross, it's a it's a it's a

(01:02:23):
child or an adult who identifies as an animal. I
eat like a cat. Where they have to have litter
boxes in schools for these children to utilize this thing today?

Speaker 6 (01:02:33):
Yeah, so it was just in the news about six
months ago, was it. It's the teacher was terminated because
she didn't.

Speaker 5 (01:02:41):
Allow the child to utilize the litter box.

Speaker 6 (01:02:44):
Okay, not part of the boys girls room, but to
drove so.

Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
Drop trow and so.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
So when this child becomes a belt, they gonna let
letter boxes in the office.

Speaker 5 (01:02:56):
To let me let me tell you like, but I
would throw me so.

Speaker 6 (01:03:01):
I come from a family of educators. My father, after
he got out of the army, he became a teacher.
My grandmother was a principal, and my mother was a
learning consultant, my aunt. All of them all in the
education realm. And wasn't my path in life cool grade
grand But there was one thing they always told me,
which was the diversity, not ethnically or racially, but just

(01:03:23):
the diversity of individuals and children that they come across,
and the level of involvement from parents.

Speaker 5 (01:03:28):
And I get it.

Speaker 6 (01:03:30):
Two income families. Maybe I was a latchkey kid, both
my parents were, but you know what, I wasn't dumb
enough to get caught doing dumb shit Like there were
boundaries and we knew that. Now we're in a situation
where these teachers are being expected to not only educate
the children.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
But to parent them, thank you, And that's the problem.

Speaker 6 (01:03:51):
It's a huge issue. But then when they do parent them,
they're getting terminated. I have to tell you if I
were that teacher. And this isn't to start a whole
debate about who's a good parent who's not.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
It's about if I am a.

Speaker 6 (01:04:04):
Teacher and I say to the person to this child,
you will use a restroom, male or female, don't care.
You are not gonna, to Carmine's point, drop trou and
squat in.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
A box exactly like animal.

Speaker 6 (01:04:21):
And then I'm terminated. Let me tell you, I would
be losing my mind on people and the fact that
it's okay and then people, well you have to let
them express themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
No, no, you know in the real world that you
cannot sit and you cannot have a little body.

Speaker 6 (01:04:39):
If somebody walked into our office and decided, hey, I
need to take a basically a dump, right, because this
is who I am.

Speaker 5 (01:04:47):
The level of expression for someone to be a cat
is just that there was a musical called Cats.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
Exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:04:53):
You're not that good, just down. It's like even the
like in the parenting thing, like I I remember that
I would get a call or my parents would get
a phone call or a landline on that the wall,
and my mom be looking at me like I gotta
like a bewildered look on my face. I'm like, uh oh,

(01:05:15):
she found out. And it's just like there was no
parenting at school. That teacher called exactly your parents to
parents you at home, so it could not be seen
what happened, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
It's that put that the end of the day, the
teachers aren't paid enough as it is, sit there and
ask them to be the parent too.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
Where is your responsibility?

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
And then everything I've taught you and I'm parenting you,
you go right back home to that same environment and
it's a ship show and we're starting all over again.

Speaker 4 (01:05:44):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
So that's so that's the problem. That is not our
role and as a teacher, that is not their roles
to be their parents. They're there to teach you the
everyday basic life things on top of it, you know,
escalating up to whatever else it is that you're great
at doing, because we all know everybody learns differently. But
to come up with these new things of identity.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
I'm just like, really, do we have time for that?

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
I mean, even back some years ago when they were
talking about just even with basic communication in it, there's
a there was.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
Another on my mind, is one blank basic math?

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
No, well, well here's another better one where you can't
even use cursive. They just brought cursive back. Yes, almost
like you can't even sign a contract without doing it
in the signature.

Speaker 5 (01:06:29):
Actually, have you guys seen the meme where this guy
like this dad center in front of this door, and
this goes with what we're talking about. He's got like
a cup of coffee and he said, the kids wanted
to do something. I said, I gave him an analog phone,
and I wrote directions and cursive on how to use
the analog phone, so on and so forth. And it's
been five hours since I've heard any noise from them.

(01:06:49):
They're still trying to figure it out. It's like, yeah, exactly,
it was like, you can't read, you can't write.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:06:58):
Yes, I had no idea man to learn. So my
daughter learned cursive in school and we were someplace and
somebody said, no, they don't teach it. Oh we were
at the gym, and I said, what I mean, they
don't teach your kids? How are they signing their name right?

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (01:07:12):
You can use Adobe, use a digital signature. You can
have it done in word.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
Are you kidding?

Speaker 5 (01:07:18):
I wrote so when before I came back to the
to the other side here, I wrote something to one
of one of our eas and I wrote it in
cursive because I was having a moment. I was like, oh,
let me see if I can still do it. And
I show it to her and she's like, what does
I say? How's are we talking about? I don't I
can't read that. I was like, don't you have a
college degree? She's like yeah. I was like, when did

(01:07:41):
you write cursive? She was like, I've never learned how
to write cursive.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
I was like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
What bothers me is that when machines go down started,
how are you going to be able to write properly?
A contract has to be done in a signature format
right now? Are people going to go I mean even
to this day, I have a hard time right printing
because I'm so used to writing in cursive, cursive, right,
and it's it's just natural for me to do this.

Speaker 5 (01:08:05):
Go on, father, let's hear it. Bring it. I see you,
Come on father.

Speaker 4 (01:08:11):
It's this is what's gonna happen when that when the
end of the world comes, there's no Internet and there's
the banks are done.

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
And stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (01:08:17):
Is the cursive is not going to help you, right right,
it's gonna be you gonna put your risk, You're gonna
make that contract with blood that we're going back to
that time.

Speaker 5 (01:08:28):
Well, so you and I have had this conversation and Jen.

Speaker 6 (01:08:32):
Knows just like you've cut your risk to assign a
contract that I don't know about.

Speaker 3 (01:08:37):
No, just with humor love you.

Speaker 5 (01:08:43):
Yes, it is uh there there was a study done
by the Department of Now it's escaping me. But it
has to do it basically has to do with the
power going down as what it was worth. That of
our population will cease to exist because they can't do
simple things to survive, you know. And it goes back

(01:09:05):
like writing incursive, doing simple math, being able to give
somebody change without looking at the screen or the monitor
that says you must give five nickels and two pennies back,
or ten dimes and four nickels and one dime and
one penny back like that. That is people not being
able to do.

Speaker 6 (01:09:24):
So it's funny that you just said that. I remember
in grade school where we had to cut out of
the handout right or you'd pop them out.

Speaker 3 (01:09:35):
You'd have to make and so they don't do this
demonstrate that you knew how to do subtraction.

Speaker 5 (01:09:41):
Why would they like nowadays, it's like that's all it is,
you know, but there has.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
Been times where the internet will go down and you
go to the store.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
People just can't not even the store.

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
Look what happens when the internet goes down.

Speaker 5 (01:09:57):
In our office, they're like, the internet's down. It's like, okay,
calm down. It's like it will come back. The lights
are still on, so we're all still safe, like calm.

Speaker 4 (01:10:08):
But if the lights went out, they'd be freaking out
and there's the apocalypse going on right now.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
My lord, I gotta get home.

Speaker 5 (01:10:14):
Yeah, I got like.

Speaker 6 (01:10:17):
I do it. That's scary. It is so true that
people are so reliant on technology to help like it
does It blows my mind that I was at the
supermarket and I handed the woman cash, which I normally
don't carry cash.

Speaker 5 (01:10:31):
I just don't.

Speaker 6 (01:10:32):
And when she was giving me change, I'm like, oh,
you know what, let me give you three pennies. You
would have thought I just took her first born, that
I was going to slay some dragons, and that she
was being sacrificed.

Speaker 5 (01:10:45):
I remember a time, and it's very rare that we
see this, and I got it. I'm the youngest one
on the table. But when you walked up to like
some counter and they had the little jar of pennies
where you sly went out, but the other lady is like,
you gotta dollar. It costs one cent. She's like, swipe
it off the top, put it in there. Okay, you're good, darling.
Like yeah, because you miss those.

Speaker 3 (01:11:09):
So much easier because if they have to say, how
do I dish you out ninety nine? Yeah, god, it
would freaky.

Speaker 4 (01:11:15):
It's like, I'm surprised they wouldn't put their penny jar
that they bring there to make life easier on themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
Yeah, it's we definitely in a different world, but people
just don't know how to use simple things.

Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
Anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
And that's the reality. And and even just to think
about the basic of learning how to cook a meal.
We're in a generation of people who order.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
Out market, you know, just don't know how to get
get up a cook and if they're cooking for a family,
it's hey, I'm going to give you every starchy thing
I can possibly think of, because that's or.

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
To have a box, or to have a.

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
Right.

Speaker 6 (01:11:54):
It's just I think that comes from the instant gratification world.
That absolutely, and instant gratification is the the the foundation,
if you will, where we are in society day. Look,
you I want money, I'm not waiting for Monday zero
eight for to go to the bank. I'm going to
go to the ATM hoop my card in.

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
The better part of my bank.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
So I'm feeding the economy.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:12:19):
Not only am I getting money out and I get
everything I want, but I'm paying four dollars to get to.

Speaker 3 (01:12:23):
Do it exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
But there's even the other ones where they've come.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
Out, like Chime or whatever they call them, where you
didn't even get paid. So because you don't have no
money before you get paid, you can get somebody to
give you money on a little credit card or debit
card ahead of time, five hundred dollars.

Speaker 5 (01:12:38):
I mean all that is like we used to have
those back in the day. Check cash. Sorry, but now
that's the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:12:49):
It's so difficult. Oh I we take checks? Actually did
you take check? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:12:54):
Because my card wasn't working for some reason, I stopped
carrying all my cards with me, right right, and yeah,
I said, okay, you know I'm right now to check.

Speaker 3 (01:13:05):
Oh, I can't take this check because it doesn't have
your address on it in your phone. Uh, you don't
like my address and phone. That's the stores policies. It's
got to have the address in the phone, so they know.

Speaker 5 (01:13:17):
Most people don't know what a check is anymore of that,
or can't write it because they don't teach it.

Speaker 6 (01:13:21):
So that was funny. We recently had our an arborist
come and work on our trees. They were trimming up
the holly bush. But it's a tree, it's huge. And
I said to the guy, can I write you a
check or do you want me to pay by credit card?

Speaker 5 (01:13:33):
Like?

Speaker 6 (01:13:33):
What works for you?

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
Because well, if you pay by.

Speaker 6 (01:13:35):
Credit card, there's a four percent charge. I'm like, well
then I'll write you a damn check, right, Can I
go grab the check book and I'm writing out a
check and we don't write checks often enough, so there,
you know, it's in the same So first I got
to go and open the figure out which safe it's in. Okay,
it's in this safe. Let me get the check out.
I'm writing it out.

Speaker 5 (01:13:52):
The reason is we have quite a few.

Speaker 6 (01:13:57):
And so then I go to hand the guy in
the check and he's reading it and I'm looking at
him like he can't read what the hell I wrote.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
He goes, oh, okay.

Speaker 6 (01:14:04):
I'm like, you have no idea what this is. And
I asked him, I said, do you want me to
change the memo to something else because I put the
well bush they did because they're gonna be coming back
and doing other work. And he's like, no, I'm sure
it's fine. Yeah, they gotta put that treatment in.

Speaker 5 (01:14:21):
Okay, that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
Yeah, But it's just sad the world that the basic
everyday things is that he used to survive. Nope, people
no longer know how to utilize those items. So when
we talk about it, it's just it looks like you said,
look at you like you're crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:14:34):
You got to check who uses checks anymore?

Speaker 5 (01:14:37):
And you know that's that's that's funny that it's funny
that you use the word survive, right, And a lot
of people who don't know this is like if you
YouTube is crazy and all these platforms are just crazy
because we you can go in there and learn how
to do anything as long as you do like you know,

(01:14:58):
some of us.

Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
You go, sorry, the members of this podcast, it has.

Speaker 5 (01:15:10):
To take a bio break. But but it's like you
can learn how to do anything on YouTube or whatever
platform you want to do. But it's a matter of
like people applying it. Like, so one thing that we
do in our house is we use the culinary background
of me and we do a lot of canny and preserving.

(01:15:32):
And I tell people that it's like, really, you're afraid
something's gonna happen, something's going to go wrong. It's like, well,
first of all, yeah, but the second thing is it's like,
but I can grow and hunt and fish for whatever
I want. I can store it. And it's like I
don't have to go to the store. My store is downstairs,
Like you know, I'm not running out to get all

(01:15:53):
the toilet paper to eat the bread and everything like that,
because my god there's a windstorm or something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:59):
You know, so right, And that's the other things funny
when people you know we're gonna get a little bad,
whether don't you ever stock up anything.

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
No, we're just gonna go out there and buy everything
all at once.

Speaker 12 (01:16:09):
She won't let me go to cost you get to
but but you can never have enough toilet paper and
scott towels. Never have enough napkins.

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
You know why because if you run on the toilet
plut because.

Speaker 5 (01:16:22):
Use napkins, put napkins for what napkins for napkins and
gets that bad.

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
We have the towels in the house.

Speaker 5 (01:16:29):
So we've been we've been doing this for a little
very long time where we've done a lot of things
that cut stuff out of our budget. It's like we
haven't bought napkins and almost god six years now, seven years.
I haven't bought a roll of paper towels since then.
We use regular towels.

Speaker 3 (01:16:45):
And just wash them.

Speaker 5 (01:16:47):
Yeah, just things like that, and it's just like, well,
you know, you're trying to help yourself. I mean, you
get close enough to the mic though here you chew
on the cookie.

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:16:59):
But like this topic is a topic that's very near
and dear tomorrow, because I really think that with the
whole you know, learning curse of people need to get
back to basics. Like even if it's just you know,
you pick once every two weeks to maybe go out
and have a dinner. Is great, but you gotta pick nowadays,
you gotta pick that one place you want to have
a nice dinner, not like we're gonna just run over

(01:17:22):
here to burg here McDonald's and grass to take it home, like, hey,
that's dinner, Like that's just even.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
People afford it well, and that's oh them. Don't get
me on the topic of forty Oh I'm too broke.
We can't you know, we need this, we need that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
Okay, Well, if you can afford to go out to
eat every day, or you can want to go and
spend ten thousand dollars for a concert ticket, your priorities
is the problem.

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
It's not because you don't have no damn money, it's
your priorities. Oh, I'm surprised.

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
There's a lot of people who will won't even pay
their bills and will spend five to ten thousand dollars
and a lot of these artists charging tickets.

Speaker 4 (01:18:02):
So the other day my son sends me, you know,
Lincoln Parks back on tour, which is great my favorite bands, right,
so I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:18:09):
Looking to all the all the venues, right, I said,
I adn't paying five hundred dollars to sit up in
those bleed sections. I'll just go put on the new album.
That's right.

Speaker 4 (01:18:19):
But there are people in the Lincoln Park the club
that's right at the center stage. Eight thousand dollars. Yes,
But that's my point.

Speaker 1 (01:18:32):
So when people talk about they don't have no money, no,
you have money, but your priorities are going to be
the issue, you know, So those those are the things
that that be the wrong way when when we live. Yeah, yeah,
people talk about this we don't have enough money for
We have enough money.

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
But you got by the most expensive shoes.

Speaker 1 (01:18:52):
You got cell phones every year to two years? Why
do you need new cell phone every year?

Speaker 3 (01:18:58):
Feed the economy eight?

Speaker 5 (01:19:00):
But it took her almost a year and a half
for me to get me get a new cell phone.
I was like, what do you need your cell phone?
It still works? What's the reason that I need.

Speaker 6 (01:19:10):
Because it wasn't five gay, I don't care, but how
long did we have our other phones?

Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
Seven years? Okay, yeah, so come on now.

Speaker 3 (01:19:19):
Yeah, like I was just like you.

Speaker 5 (01:19:25):
Nothing, I mean it, I can Okay, no, I'll take
that back. I'll take that back.

Speaker 6 (01:19:30):
I will tell you because that five G was allowing
me to contact you when you were in the woods.

Speaker 5 (01:19:33):
Yes, when I go out to the woods and my
dear stand have.

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
Those new radios over the place?

Speaker 5 (01:19:43):
Illegal, different thing, different thing for hunting. You can't do that,
like I can message my wife, but well that's a
different Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:19:54):
I want to know because it's so cool.

Speaker 2 (01:19:59):
Guys over your all the things that we don't need
to worry about right now.

Speaker 5 (01:20:02):
But anyway, let me say this, I know, but nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:20:07):
You're kicking.

Speaker 5 (01:20:10):
You know you're kicking if I wanted to kick you
know you're kicking.

Speaker 6 (01:20:13):
Op.

Speaker 5 (01:20:15):
What I was gonna say it is like for the
first one, I think it has been pretty fun.

Speaker 3 (01:20:18):
Absolutely like this.

Speaker 5 (01:20:20):
I think that's like at the table, Yeah exactly, it's
just O, god, can you imagine some of the people
around us, like what are they talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:20:28):
Oh my god, they're so offensive.

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
Well I said, take this and do it in different
environments and you know, have more conversations, have more fun.
We can invite other people to the conversation as well. God,
you know we will eventually go back to doing live
live again. But yeah, I mean this has been.

Speaker 5 (01:20:50):
So much fun, so much No, yeah, absolutely, thank you.

Speaker 6 (01:20:53):
For inviting us.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
Absolutely, I'm just glad that you guys are willing to
jump in, and especially because, like you said earlier, this
is not his thing, but he has something very.

Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
Absolutely, if I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:21:06):
Like not talking to you, for our future guests on
this podcast, if you're not getting any comments from Father Peccie,
you're not getting any comments from Father Phi.

Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
She's to take care of take care of all of y'all.
Great advice. You know, that was father Rabbi passion.

Speaker 5 (01:21:33):
You know we're gonna get some comments on that one, absolute,
But that's.

Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
What we're here for, is to have some comments there.

Speaker 1 (01:21:39):
But before we close out, does anybody have any last
words to go around the room go for I'll.

Speaker 3 (01:21:45):
Let her says none. Spot.

Speaker 6 (01:21:50):
I mean, I appreciate that and all. No, this was great,
This was fun. I always love them the four of
us get together. It's a good time and definitely looking
forward to us. Some more uncuffed conversations reveal some more
stuff about life and the pursuit of happiness.

Speaker 5 (01:22:05):
Right, Oh, no, I mean I think I said I
think I think I said. I think this was I
just want to make sure. Well, no, my notes said
the first one was the chem I said, this is good,
don't stop at an hour. Then I got got a
pee with a smiley face, and then I know, I

(01:22:26):
know how Kim is like very time oriented. So it's like,
I just want to make sure we don't go like
five six hours, which were probably gonna do the way. Yeah,
so that was I wrote something else of evening. I
don't know why I wrote eve, I don't know. That's
all I got im good, all right.

Speaker 4 (01:22:44):
The only thing I really wanted to say is we
talked about a lot of things. But the most important
thing that I wrote down something for is time is valuable.
It's something you can never ever get back once you
waste it. Don't waste time on things that you feel
are important. Just waste it for the things that are
important family, friends, and relationships.

Speaker 6 (01:23:03):
Amen, And that's preach father.

Speaker 4 (01:23:07):
That was good.

Speaker 5 (01:23:10):
Wrote that down. You would not be able to do
that twice.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
Oh, that was great.

Speaker 5 (01:23:17):
You might want to keep that for a future podcast
to like literally keep that you know whenever that that
was really good.

Speaker 3 (01:23:23):
I didn't do the when I do the mask, I'll
do it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:29):
When I start hanging out.

Speaker 5 (01:23:30):
In the middle of the podcast, Kim and I are
looking at each other like there is a flipping ghosts.
I was like, Father brought him back to life.

Speaker 3 (01:23:43):
The ghost is in that penguin behind that. I just
want you to know that it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
Stares out out right there looking at you.

Speaker 6 (01:23:50):
Well, now it's creepy.

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
That thanks guys. O my god, Okay, that's great, that's great.
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
Anyway to get back to the show. All right, So again,
I really truly thank you all for hanging out with me.
And like I said, we are back.

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
I am back.

Speaker 1 (01:24:11):
I got this amazing crew with me. We will like
to have more guests. We will be back on Thursdays.
We're gonna start out slow, you guys, so I know
you're used to me bringing it out every Thursday a
new podcast episode or a live episode.

Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
We're coming out slow, but we will still be here monthly.

Speaker 1 (01:24:28):
If of course, if you would like to be a
guest on the show and you want to reveal something,
you can reach out to me at Kimberly at WSB
i LC at gmail dot com and of.

Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
Course if you want more of your resource for success
or unveiled podcast shows.

Speaker 1 (01:24:41):
We do take monetary donations to support the podcast, and
we accept that either through cash app.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
I will have the information so you can see it online,
so I'm not gonna read everything out.

Speaker 1 (01:24:52):
We do have PayPal, good pods, tip jar, or you
can just go directly to the website at wwwwsbi LC
dot com. Again, thank you all for listening to us tonight.
We would be back next month. We may have some
more guests, but if not, you will have the same host.

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
Just be prepared.

Speaker 1 (01:25:10):
Make sure you follow us on Ironheart Radio or wherever
you listen to your podcast. But the until then, enjoy
the rest.

Speaker 2 (01:25:16):
Of your night.

Speaker 3 (01:25:16):
You can have a good evening.

Speaker 5 (01:25:18):
Lateral Bye bye,

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