August 28, 2025 • 56 mins
Award winning actress Regina King joins Angie Martinez in a powerful and in depth conversation on life. They discuss the importance of being present and living in the now. Regina talks about her new wine, “MIANU” that she made in honor of her late son, Ian. Regina and Angie discuss womanhood, from menopause to the importance of supporting other women in life. Angie asks some In Real Life Questions, and discusses an exciting project that she’s working on.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Everybody's trying to figure out something. Well, you're figuring out
it's probably way heavier than anybody in this room maybe
can understand. But everybody in the room is trying to
figure out.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Something, right. You know what is interesting that you said that.
That's something that I've remind myself. I'm glad you said
that that somebody else they got some shit too, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Like sometimes we're like, oh, you know, like.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
She said that snappy, or he has a old friend
he wasn't very hing. You don't know what someone's story
is or what just that day served for them, you
know what I mean. So I remind myself of that often,
like you know what, that's not my shit. Don't take
(00:47):
that on, you know, keep it pushing, you know what
I mean. So I don't I think I used to
be more quick to you know, let a motherfucker out,
you know, about themselves, you know that, to have the
sensitivity of everybody's got story, everybody's dealing with some shit.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
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Speaker 2 (01:17):
Today's guest needs no intro, but she's gonna get one
anyway because she deserves one. Actor director producer.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Her work has shaped cultures for decades from two to seven,
which I just found out she was thirteen, where she
auditioned for uh TO films like Voice to Men, Poetic Justice,
If Beale Street could Talk, watch Ben Jerry mcguild. We
will be here too long because I have pages pages
of the work. But it has really, and this is
so true, it has defined erarors. When you think about
(01:47):
these pages and what are on these pages. Regina's work
has defined errors for us in film. Behind the camera,
of course, she's given us one night in Miami.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
She's directed a few other things which we're going to
talk about today, recently showing us what strength and resilience
looks like, especially in this new venture which I love
the name and Me and.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Me and You with Ian in the middle, her new
wine which honors her son. And I am very honored
to have Regina King in the building with us.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Thank you, Yeahina, And I'm finally sitting down with Angie.
We have a death crazy right, and it's because if
you're not here, I say this, whether you're in the
room or not the room. If people ask me of
one of my favorite actresses, give me your top five
favorite actresses, I would they would be mixed up depending
on the day or my food or whatever.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
You are always going to be included in that list,
for sure.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I value your work so much.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I think I think there is something about the way
you deliver things that feels so I don't know. I
remember watching Poetic Justice, right, I know, it's just such
a come on, such a classic, but there was a moment,
and I was trying to think of it today. I
was like, what was the exact scene in that moment?
Because I literally have this memory. I guess you had
just gotten into the fight with Chicago and then Janet
(03:10):
was like.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
What is wrong with you?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
There was something about like your eyes got.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Watery, you were giving angry and sad, and you were
giving like four emotions at the same time on screen.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Do you know what moment I'm talking about?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
I think, so we're like outside, here's something, and then
they go close up your face and it's just I
don't know, that little moment I felt just struck me
so hard and I just was from that day I
was watched everything you do and I think your talent
is I love that you.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Know that I appreciate it. Why that just hits me
a certain way because that's what made me want to
be an actress. What do I mean when I saw
like Ricky Schroeder in the champ oh Hockey, Yeah, how
you made me feel and Sally Field and Sybil and
(03:58):
Norma Ray and just the way they made me like
I just I so believe them and I so all
the little nuanced things happen in just a moment, and
I was like, I want to make people feel like that.
So for you to share that, it's like, ah, well,
(04:18):
mission accomplished. Other people have different career.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
What was the moment that you because that's the moment
I felt like, oh yeah, special, What was the moment
you felt like? Man, I feel this. I bodied this
like when.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
I don't think I've ever Anybody that knows me knows
that I'm always when I see my work, I'm like,
oh I could, Why did I do that? Did I
was that? On another take? I thought, you know some
I am one of those. I'm one of those I'm
annoying like that. But when I are you a Capricorn?
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I am aha, I am so am I That's why.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
One of those two yeah, real recognized is real. Probably
I was doing a play when I was like nine
years old, I started going to acting class. Todd Bridge's
mother was our acting teacher. She had a Cambridge Academy
(05:20):
is what it was called, and it was doing a play.
And her reaction to me just kind of like reading
before we had the play had went up, just reading
the dialogue and what I was doing.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
And her reaction.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
You know, sometimes you need someone else's like confirmation to
make you know, oh, yeah, you got this, And just
her reaction made me go, oh, okay, this is something
I should be doing. So I think that that would
be pretty good. That might be pretty good at this?
Do you then go chase that maybe so? Maybe so, yeah,
(05:57):
maybe so? Wanting people to have yeah, wanting to well,
wanting to get that you made someone feel something, you know,
you you were believable, You made someone recognize themselves in
a performance Like that's like the ultimate. Isn't that?
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Like anybody who's like an authentic or true artist, right,
isn't like that?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
The goal of that is to make people feel something,
feel something like, even if it's not necessarily good, a
good something, but to make them feel something.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Yeah, I think that's absolutely.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
What are you most proud of of all your body?
At work? Is that hard. I'm sure that's I'm still
most proud of being Ian's mom. You know that Always
whenever I'm asked that question, it's hard for me to
remember life before he was born. You know, it's it's
(06:55):
it's crazy, like so many things are related to Oh yeah,
that's when Ian lost his first two that's when you know,
like moments are connected to his growing.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Moments.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah, I get that.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Yeah, so you know I do understand that, but there
is there are things even with my son, like, uh,
I don't know, I still have things that I am
proud of for me aside, like you know, I like
him to see me in my when I'm in my
bag on something. Yeah, no, you know what I'm saying,
you got you got a bag, you have a bag?
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I think, Andree, what made me say that, because it's
that's always the thought. Is I am really figuring out
this new relationship with me and I'm also figuring out
what my purpose is because, like you said, seeing your
son seeing you in your bag, like you do what
(07:52):
you do for your children, you know what I mean,
every move you make. So I'm figuring out the fe
you know, like what how do I move? What? What
why am I doing anything? You know? And so I
understand that deeply you live in a new world. Now.
(08:13):
That is just I was talking to my friend GUYE.
Tori is a good friend of mine, and we were
talking the other day and he was like, this dirty
ass Earth using that ever since taking that? Yeah, yeah,
(08:34):
dirty ass Earth. It's like I feel all of that
in those three words. Thank you for those words. Need
the word, yes, yeah, just need the words to get
it out. How has this been for you?
Speaker 1 (08:48):
It's just like, am I'm gonna be honest with you?
And the fact that I am very sensitive to just
you and your experience, because how could any human being
not be sensitive?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
So I just wonder for you.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Now I'm seeing you out, You're to impress, You're talking
to people. Well, it's one thing dealing with something quietly,
it's another thing coming outside.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Well. The unfortunate thing is when you're a celebrity, you
don't get the opportunity to deal with something quietly. You
didn't take time, you know, absolutely, But everyone is a
you know, like we witness, yeah, you know, and so yes,
definitely I took time. But I coming back into this
(09:38):
space it feels foreign in some ways. I mean, just
like freaking Instagram don't even look the same, Like, what
the hell I mean? I follow people, but I don't
see any of the people I follow. It is just ads.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
And apparently I am very into plant care because.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
In just that short amount of time, Yeah, just that
short amount of time, plant care and facial exercises to
target they target.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
What my algorithm.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
It's not right, But it didn't look like that, you know,
three and a half years ago. So I'm I'm figuring
it out. I'm putting myself with in situations that I
feel safe, you know, like I was talking to you before,
(10:37):
Like the whole podcast world is like bananas to me,
you know, like what happened to a nine minute interview?
You get hours.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Nine minutes of sharing And.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
He well, that is one of the main reasons because these.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Long forms, even me, I sit here and I sat
across from somebody and I and I want to know
all the things about their life so that I could
learn and so that my audience could learn. But then
someone sits who has a sense of the situation, and
I don't. It's not that important to me to share
any shit over what is just one and human to
another human being. Like compassionate, understanding, empathy, and so, like
(11:18):
I said to you before, like whatever your offering is
is you're offering, like you know what I mean. But
I do wonder do you do you are you to
that phase yet? Will you feel like you haven't offering yet?
You know, sometimes we go through things and then other
people heal through you or see themselves in your experience,
and I just wonder if you're even to that place yet.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
I don't know, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
I know.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
That this is the journey that God chose for, you know,
to be mine, and I'm just always trying to just
stay present in the moment and not really appreciate the
(12:09):
moment for whatever it has the offer, you know. And
so so we'll see you like that before.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
We always like that, like present, like being in the moment,
being present, because I would even imagine as what you
do as an actress, you require some of that too.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Yeah, yeah, I would say a bit of that.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
But I think that you know there and you know
this being in Capricorn, you know, we are planners. We're
always thinking ahead and preparing, you know, because we want
to control them, because we're control enthusiasts. Love that yes,
(12:52):
I feel seen. Yes, yeah, I feel seen. It's starting already,
right already, but uh so so yeah, i feel like
I'm more present in in in every moment, and I'm
(13:12):
like the simple things are I feel like, as an actor,
what we do is people watch, and but as your
anonymity goes away, you have less of an opportunity to
do that, you know, And so I've been getting back
(13:32):
into doing that. Yeah, you see, like what are you
looking for? Like, what are you watching? People? I just
I love like I'm making stories in my head, you know,
like you see a couple, you know, You're like, oh,
it's are they a couple? Couple? Or is she decided? Yeah?
You know? Or oh is that a parent in child?
(13:56):
You know, like you'll see like an eighty year old,
you know, grandmother with an adult you know, young man,
and I'm you know, wondering, is are they or are
they a couple? You know? Yeah? Yeah, so just watching
body language and you did use that for art like
(14:18):
you use that absolutely. And it's funny when a role
that you're playing, you tend to watch people that are
in the space of the role that you're playing. So
the film Caught Stealing, I had an awesome woman that
I got to learn so many stories from.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Her name is Jackie Brown.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
She's a detective during the era that the film takes
place in ninety eight. So I found myself after meeting her.
Now I'm paying attention to women cops, and I've played
so many cops before, but I have not had the
opportunity to be a New York cup.
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Speaker 2 (15:48):
So you're out here in New York watching people with
why comms.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah, being in a back ground, does that make you
do that in real life with people like.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Friendships? Like you're a good judge of character. I mean,
I would imagine. I think I am a pretty good
judge of character. I think I do see pretty quick bullshit. Yeah,
and you know what, sometimes it's not really necessarily bullshit,
but it's not shit for me. Oh yeah, not for me.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
And I think that also comes with age too. I
saw somebody say this. I think Taraji said this the
other day.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
She said, when you get to your forties, you start
caring a lot less less fucks to give by time.
In fifty you have you give to Roger say, you
get a certain amount of fucks to give in your
whole life, and by forty you start oring.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
By fifty, they're pretty much gone. If you got no
more fucks to give about anything, and except for those
that you care about, except right. Yeah. But I don't
know if it's all the way true, but I kind
of liked it as a theory. I was like, Okay,
I think I'm gonna live.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
But I think there's something to that. As women, you
get to a point.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
I think you just get to a point where you're
really drawing hard lines about no. No, I don't want to
do that.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Yeah, you know it's a powerful word. Yeah, are you
my favorite word?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
You like it? Yeah? Definitely, yeah, because it's not a
mean word, you know, But about that, well, it help
to create boundaries. I think it also women we just
give so much of ourselves, you know. You know that's
(17:28):
part of the you you know that women have a
harder time sleeping than men, because we.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Just had this conversation in the room before you got here. Yes,
actually it's actually I didn't know that. I just said
it as like I don't find that men sleep better. Yeah,
it's factual.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
It's actually like the clinical.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Yes, because just the way we're wired were we're.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
What the kids have to do? This has to do
my job, you know, we we can't. We're men are better.
They're wired in a way that they know that that
ship's still going to be there. So I'm going to sleep,
(18:17):
you know, So you just where we are it is.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Sometimes I'm like looking at my man and I'm.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Like, I do the same thing. I will punch you
in better, not snore.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
He probably thought he'd.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Be like, I'm tired, We're gonna take it out, and
then he's like.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
And he just like, like, you didn't know. It's like
I have to read some people.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
We don't do that. Yeah, we don't do that. Why.
I know it's not fair.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
There's many things that are not fair. I do love
your commitment to supporting women and to I know that
you have said publicly too that you've made a commitment
to like work with fifty percent more women.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Yeah, I absolutely love that I had experienced yesterday and
the day before that I would like to share with you.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yeah, I want you to you a little bit.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Yesterday but I had Tasha Tasha Smith on, who's amazing
and funny and support.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
All the thing is.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
And I shared with her that I was doing something
out of my comfort zone and I was gonna direct
this short film and the script that I wrote whatever.
She was just mad supportive about it.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Oh my god, Sis, you could do it.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
And so the next day I wrote, I was finishing,
I was, I was tightening up the script a little,
and I had this new scene that now had a
mom in it.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
And the next day.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
I called Tasha and I said, if this is crazy,
I promised I would never feel no way.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
You could totally say.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
No, but I have this little role if you if
it struck your if it's and you wanted to do it,
it would be a dream. And she's like, well, Sis,
I got to do this thing, and I gotta do
this thing, but I think I can move that in
this and yeah, yes, I'll be there.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Sasha Smith came down to my little.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Low budget directorial debut and played the role of Gloria.
My mom's name is Oria. I love that and showed
up and was lovely to because, you know, because we
don't have no permits. Yeah, yeah, yeah, student, it's like
a student film. Like, yeah, it's like a.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Student And she got in there, and you know, there
was like a moment where I appreciate it so greatly,
not because of what it does for me in my
career or because maybe more people will watch the Shore.
It's just like when we talk about empowerment and supporting
each other.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
We get on the panels.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Yeah, we say the things, but when somebody actually says,
I don't need to do that, but let me let me, yeah,
let me show up for shore up with this thing
for And by the way, she could have said no,
and I still would have felt I love her to down.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
It doesn't matter. And she if she had said no,
it was only because she actually couldn't you know what
I mean. I want to and she's entitled to not
want you to. That's totally fine, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
But when people show up for you in that way,
it's just I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
I just think there is something to be said.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
And so shout out to Tasha for that. Hey, guys,
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Speaker 2 (22:10):
Shout out to you for asking though, because so many people,
because because it is a small film, because it is like, uh,
do you think that's okay to ask? Closed mouth? Drunk
you fed? So I struggle with that. Yeah, I hate
asking for you, Yeah I do. I hate asking for
you too, you know, well, do you do it sometimes
(22:31):
I'm getting better as That's why I said, kudos to
you for asking, you know, because Brittany push, she was
like I ask her. She's so supportive, She's she wants
to spell Like, yeah, good for you.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
I think one of the most proud of is though,
because I think going back to my point was just
like we get to a certain point.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
You have this, you have four pages of this, Like
what moves you to keep.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Wanting to do more, you know, wanting to create new things,
being new films, make a whine. I know your son
obviously inspired the wine, but like, I don't know, just
finding things to keep us growing and keep us learning,
and well, the last thing I want to do is
stop learning, you know, because then like, what's the point
if you ever had like a conversation with a person
(23:15):
that like knows everything.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
A person that thinks they know every That's what I'm
saying to.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Them, Yeah, you knows everything. That's just so uninteresting. I just,
especially with the directing, I always feel like I'm in
this place where I'm learning something new.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
I mean, just that little experience that you had over.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Going me, it makes me understand or even just value
what you must be experiencing Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I don't know. I guess as
long as that fire is inside of me, the desire
to want to express all what's in me. You know,
I think every ten years or years or so, you
(24:06):
kind of are a bit of a different person, you know,
especially now you're like, yeah for sure, oh I'm yeah yeah.
How does that work with art? How does that work
with how you create? Well, part of the work art now.
It also is it's good for my mind not going
(24:28):
into dark places and there there's I guess in a
lot of ways some healing that happens for me, not
that I'm actually going out seeking it in all of
(24:48):
the things that I've done over the past.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Four years.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Yeah, I can.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Imagine, especially the wine. Yeah, I gotta imagine that's there's
a lot of healing in that.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
No, it is because it's feel It is something that
Ian and I are creating a memory, a new memory together,
you know that think when you're talking to people and
they're talking about oh, their child is doing this or that,
(25:22):
you know, and your memories you know kind of stop
at a certain place, and how do I Because He
in spirit is always with me, so how do I
do that. I mean, the man in my life is
(25:44):
such a wonderful human being, and so his constant reminding me,
you know, when I'm in.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
The really.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
You never know when the the real dark moments are
going to come. They're always and so when I'm in
that place and he's always, don't wipe the tears, let
them fall into Ian's spirit bull and just taking the
idea of that and realizing, okay, you can, we're going
(26:26):
to create new memories.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Yeah, and we're going to create new memories.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
And so it just kind of was birthed out of that,
you know, just remembering them remembering something and creating that
something and creating a new memory. I've never heard somebody
explain that that way. That's really beautiful. Oh well, I
(26:54):
don't think I've ever explained that that, you know, in depth.
You know, you'll fine, you know, when I'm talking, I
take a lot of pauses. I'm really always trying to
make sure I am saying exactly what I'm feeling. And also,
you know, we're in the culture that you know, we'll
(27:18):
do this whole podcast and then someone will take one
little thing, you know, and run with that. No, it's
my I hate that I try to protect people because
I do appreciate when people come share their stories. Sometimes
they're vulnerable, sometimes they're whatever. Just and I know it's
been good intent, you know. And then we try to
pull clips that reflect the truth about costs. Yeah, but
(27:40):
it's you can't control it anything. The universe andice out
there for people to do whatever they want, I know
to especially with some dirty ass earth, this dirty as earth.
We're just trying to make beautiful that have to do
beautiful things in this dirty as earth.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I'm taking that with you.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yeah, I mean, please.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
It all right, let's do we have some in real
life questions?
Speaker 1 (28:11):
If you don't pay, can we bring in the wine?
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Yes? Okay? And by the way, yes, I love that
your show it's called in real life because that's also
part of me and you because we are so far
away from in real lifetime. You know, everything is here,
we're living we're literally living here. And so one thing
(28:38):
that wine does you have to slow down, you have
to have an actual connective moment. It encourages that, you know,
can we open the wine? Can we do it?
Speaker 3 (28:50):
So I feel like me and you and in real life.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
It all all to its now you opening up my
bottle of me and you. I'm gonna have to have
a little bit now. Just know I have not eaten,
so give me just a I love that and it
tastes so good.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
I know it's my one, but.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
I want, I want to share something with you, and
we don't.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
It's tricky because I'm being so sensitive, but it's also
it's all my spirit is honest. I have a really
good friend who had a very similar experience to yours,
and I've watched her very closely through it.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
And how she navigates.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
And it's just something about the way that you tell
this story and the purpose behind it, at least the
way you shared it today. We were talking earlier about
how you're not sure if you are for your story
to help inspire land for other people. I think that's
already happening.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
You know.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
That's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
You know what I'm saying. I think, uh, because because
you're as you're sharing that, I'm thinking.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Of her and that's my immediate thought.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
But I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
You know wherever it lands for other people, that it's
just a I just think it's already happening, you.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Know what I mean, Well, if it is happening, and
that's a beautiful.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Why Why am I having such a hard time?
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Why is I think it needs to go in a
little bit more?
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Also, I'm exhausted. All right, we get it done. And
by the way, me and You.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Is a phenomenal name.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
I know, where did that come from? I mean, when
did you? Was this? Who thought of that? I was
having one of my moments of you know, I just
don't know what to do. I just I'm because I'm
missing in so much, you know, And.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
My man was saying, I said, I said me and you.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I said something like that, and he said, he's always
with you. You just said his name. And I was like,
what he said, every time you say me and you
ends with you. And I was like, did you cry
like a baby when he said that, because well, the
sad tears turned into I wouldn't even call it happy tears,
(31:17):
but just kind of like yeah, just kind of like
an kind of like an aha moment type, you know.
And so he said that, and it wasn't like a
year later that the idea came up for the wine
(31:38):
and I was like, it's got to be called me
and you you know, yeah, it's really because it's it's
me and my co he's you know, and when that
was our nickname, always co my coat.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Yeah, the co.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Creator coll this cod oh, I don't think like a
cold like no, yeah yeah yeah, same thing. You know.
When he was doing a report for school and it
was on Explorers and he wanted to uh do it
on a black Explore, so he decided made Jamison and
(32:16):
so we were reading and they said she went on
a co mission with I think it was a Russian
space team, could be wrong, but he was like, co mission,
what was cold? And I was like, well, I kind
of explained what it meant. He was like kind of
like me and you, and I was like yeah. So
from that moment it was we've always been cosed and
(32:37):
we're still cold.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
You will be forever forever, forever, never forever.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Yeah all right, mama, get in your uh can I
buy you some wine? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (32:48):
What's your go to self care ritual when you you know,
my glasses in want now when you're burned out?
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Oh wow, my goat. There's a lot of different things.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
A facial is something about getting a facial, yes, yes, yes,
in swimming really swimming. Yeah, yeah, it's good for you
both for your arms, your arms, shoulder, and then also
just floating, feeling as close to weightlessness as possible.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
These are in real life questions you could pass or
you could tell me whatever you like in real life.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
What is one thing you no longer apologize for?
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Hmmm? I still that's one place I need to work on.
I still say I'm sorry you do. I do so
of character I didn't know I know about that life. Yeah,
I'm not. I don't as much as I used to,
(33:55):
but I do still.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
In real life, I am at my best when.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Hmmm, Angie, I'm still trying to figure that out. Really, Yeah, yeah,
that is a hard one. Would you say, what's mine? Honestly?
Speaker 1 (34:15):
I think it's what we're kind of what we're talking
about before, Like I'm like you, I talk shit like
I don't care, but yeah we care, Like we say sorry,
we feel.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Bad if we heard somebody's feelings.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
But I'm really starting to.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Transition into a space where like, I don't feel bad
because I know I'm a good person person, right, I
know I'm a nice person. You're so what is best
for me offends you? I'm okay with that.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Yeah, okay, yeah you know what? No, I love that
have there's this woman on Instagram because, like I said,
I'm just getting back on it, and I'm so happy
that she popped up on my feet because that how
I follow her w d C we oh yeah, you
(35:03):
don't do not care? Do not care? And that was
one of the things she said, we do not Yeah, yeah, yeah,
well I want to be a mayor member.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
But she says that in one of her things, we no.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Longer care about.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Yeah, I no longer care about.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
If your feelings are hurt, that's that's that's not our problem.
That's there. Yes, Yeah, it's a good feeling.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
And I think I'm at my best when I'm operating
that day because I do my instincts are good, So
I am going to do good by right by.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
People just naturally.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
So if I'm always like trying to pivot to make
people happy as opposed to just doing what I believe
is like the right thing to do, and sometimes it
sols you down, and I don't know, maybe all the
times it's a good answer. But that's definitely one thing
that's like the first thing.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
That came to me. Yeah, that I'm still trying to
figure out what my answer is really Maybe we maybe
we'll come back to it.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Yeah, you're in a weird season of your life. I
am you may have had an answer.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
To that before. I'm I'm pretty sure I would have
that into that before, probably quit. You're trying to get
through today.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Yeah, yeah, I totally get that.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Okay, Lately in real life, lately, I've been reminding myself
that is there anything that you have to remind yourself
of lately?
Speaker 2 (36:20):
M I love how thoughtful you are. Right there was like, yeah,
maybe no, not that one, because I was going to say, lately,
I've been reminding myself that I'm beautiful.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Because I think I have not.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
I'm just kind of getting back to looking in the
mirror more and you know, you know what I mean,
Like there's one way you know, you're looking and marry
and just doing your hair, you're not really looking at yourself.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
So I think that that.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Is is that's interesting. Yeah, we're not not reminded that
that I reminding myself that I think I'm beautiful, not
the validation from outward, but that I'm beautiful. And I
know that's the reason why I kind of like was thinking,
(37:20):
like should I say that?
Speaker 3 (37:21):
But yeah, that's okay. Yeah, yeah, it's my ship totally allowed.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Mm hmm. Not sure about that one. Well, because you know, yeah,
well then go to the next one. She said, no,
leave that one alone from Miss Regina over here. But
thank you.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
I appreciate for looking out for your sister.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Well listen, we're all we're all just here trying to
figure it out, trying to figure it out.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Everybody's trying to figure out something. Well, you're figuring out.
It's probably way heavier than anybody in this room maybe
can understand, but everybody in the room's trying to figure.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Out something, right. You know what is interesting that you
said that. That's something that I've remind myself. I'm glad
you said that that somebody else they got some shit too,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Like sometimes we're like, oh, you know, like.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
She said that snappy, or he has a old friend,
he wasn't very ring. You don't know what someone's story
is or what just that day served for them, you
know what I mean. So I remind myself of that often, like,
you know what, that's not my shit.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Don't take that on, you know, keep it pushing, you
know what I mean. So I don't I think I.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Used to be more quick to you know, let a
motherfucker out, you know, about themselves. You know that to
have the sensitivity of everybody's got story. Everybody's dealing with
some shit. It seems like now more than ever. Honestly, Well,
we're we're in a real interesting time. Yeah, like we're
(39:20):
just everything feels dystopian, Like what did he say? What
was the quote? This dirt? Well, yeah, this dirty ass?
Or what about what about the other side of the
dirty ass? Like what what do you see?
Speaker 3 (39:39):
What do you have hope? And what do you see beauty?
Speaker 2 (39:41):
And like what is what is the other side of that? Well?
Speaker 3 (39:46):
I really appreciate my.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Relationships, you know. I see the beauty in how we
care for each other, in all of those relationships, you know,
and the beauty in that, you know, I have people
on my team that have been on my team for
thirty years. Wow.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
You know a lot of people in this business don't
have that, you know. You know, my mom's eighty one,
you know.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
And she you know, she's you know, losing some of
her independence and appreciating that my sister and I are
able to be there. I appreciate my sister, my stepsister,
but my mom is in Cincinnati, and she looks out,
(40:42):
you know, for my mom, like she's her mom. She
is her mom, and that's our sister. So again appreciating
I see. Another question was what do I see hope in?
But I do feel like that that connects some way too. Yeah,
(41:03):
the world is not it's not old dirt. It's not
all dirt. Yeah, it's not old dirt. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
How often do you think about your legacy?
Speaker 2 (41:10):
I don't know that I think about it really at all,
because if I'm not here, you know, so I don't
really think about it. You know, people don't say them
what they think anyway, you know, what they what this
person remembers me for him, it's going to be different
than what this person remembers me from. So no, I
don't really think about it. I'm really when I tell you,
(41:32):
I am in the moment. I'm in the moment. I
never thought i'd be a wine maker. Never yet here
we are, by the way, we haven't even yeah, cheers.
What do I need to know about this wine? So
lou Well, smell the nose first, that's pretty. I don't
know that.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
I know the orange wine is a thing I have
none never Yeah, my first orange one.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Yeah, that's really good. Oh, that's really good. How much
of them are you drinking this often? Is this every
day thing?
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Well? She said, well, I'd like for it to be,
but no, you know this right man, I'll get the sweats.
He's not taking my gosh. I had Adrian, Adrian here
the other day, she had she was having a sweat
moment here right here in the chair. Yeah, and she
shared with us in real time. Yes, that sweat was Yeah,
(42:29):
it was a real I get. It's not I get
the nice if I drink too much, you get to
not get the night sweat.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
I get the nights.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
How are you managing that season of life and that
all of that?
Speaker 3 (42:39):
You know, it's really really really.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Interesting because I'm grateful that we are. Oh this is
my whole thing. There is hope for me because that
women will the next generation of women and when they
walk into this stage of life, it won't feel so
(43:07):
so brought the hell like and scary like what is
my body doing? Because we're talking about it. Yeah, you know,
thank you just being Melanie, you know, thank you Ali
Barry for sure, because you know, at first, for me,
(43:28):
my body really just like shut down, and there's something
really to have this loss that I have while.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
I'm going through menopause.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
It is you think you're losing your mind, you know,
and just just talk to other women and you're not
losing your mind, you know?
Speaker 3 (44:00):
Do you how do you describe it?
Speaker 2 (44:02):
How do you explain it? Or how did was it
explained to you that maybe helped you deal my gnacologists,
you know, doctor Lantre is just such. She just was
keen to that I am this age and she's actually
the one that said to me, it is cruel that
(44:27):
this is happening to you right now, and I need
you to know that whatever comes out of you, you
are one thousand percent allowed to have that. Yes, you know,
and it's okay, and it's actually normal, even though none
(44:51):
of it feels normal. And I think just her identifying
that for me, you know, like just your your emotions
being just all over the place, and how why can't
(45:15):
I control, you know, and being a person that needs
to be in control and not being in control, and
and and having this whole inside it's I'll tell you,
(45:39):
which would definitely.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Helped me.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
I started, just like three months ago, started hormone replacement therapy. Yeah,
because I don't it wasn't. I was not in a
good place at all. And it was doctors that I had.
I had actually like two good girlfriends of mine, and
(46:08):
they don't know each other, both saw what I was
going through physically, and both of them had done it.
And they're women that you know, like some of your friends,
they might like, yeah, I trusted them, and both of
them had suggested that I tried, and I actually saw
(46:31):
one of them. I saw how she came back, Like
I saw what Melicent was like, you know, before hitting menopause,
and then was with her going through it, and then
saw her get her everything kind of back, you know,
and so I was like, oh, and then I saw
(46:54):
the same thing with Loretta, and so then I and
then my trainer he was like, because I'm trying to
go to the gym and Angie, I can't. I couldn't
fucking touch my toes and it was so like what
is going on? You know, and miss in the midst
of everything else, and so he was like, reaching up,
(47:16):
I really think you should consider checking out hormone replacement therapy.
And I was like, you know, you know, two of
my girlfriends said that. I said, Okay, I'm gonna talk
to my doctor and she was like, apps, absolutely, I
would suggest it for you. And after like the first
(47:37):
three weeks, I started I didn't realize that my body
because I'm such an athletic person, I'm I depend on
my body for everything. I mean, we all do. But
you know, when you're a really athletic person and you're
going and all the time, and now your body's like
you feel like you're eighty years old just getting out
(47:58):
of fucking bed, you know what I mean. That's not no,
it's not okay.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
And so.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
In like three weeks, I started feeling, all right, Okay,
I can touch my toes again. Now I'm looking forward
to going to the gym. You know, body starts feeling.
My body started feeling, you know, like every like to
just do simple things like just picking up. So it
(48:29):
was just crazy. It was like I was like I
was in someone else's body. It just was kind of
mind blowing. And no one prepares you for that. No
one tells you your body is gonna say fuck you.
Because maybe the next woman, maybe that's not her experience.
Speaker 3 (48:47):
Her experience might be something else, you know, hers might
be more brain fog.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
You know, there's probably nobody that definitely prepares you for
the level.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
Just the whole thing at the same time, and the menopause.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
There is no blueprint, is there.
Speaker 3 (49:03):
Like a book, is like a pamphlet, nothing like how
none of it?
Speaker 2 (49:07):
How do you manage that? But I will say that
the placement definitely, thank God, definitely thank God.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
No, really literally, thank god?
Speaker 2 (49:18):
How could you? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (49:19):
How could you?
Speaker 2 (49:19):
Possibly?
Speaker 1 (49:21):
It's like when you're going through anything, it's like sorting.
For me, whenever I'm like going through anything, it's like
sorting through it so I can identify it, so I
could manage it.
Speaker 3 (49:29):
Yeah, because yeah, but when I can't identify something and
it starts eating at.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
You, and even anxiety is all that.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
I can't imagine being in the world of those two
things colliding. Yeah, and then you can't even identify what
is attributed to this?
Speaker 4 (49:43):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (49:44):
Yeah? Girl? Yeah? Girl, you are a superhero in a warrior. No, really,
you are a warrior for sure. For sure.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
I mean I think you probably always have been a
warrior to some ext it.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
Definitely, if not in this life and other lies, I
was some fierce something had to be man, Well, we
love you. You inspire all of us. Yeah, you're just
you are a warrior?
Speaker 3 (50:19):
What is I asked this in real life we can
go out with this.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
It's like I told you, like the purpose of this podcast,
I wonder for you, what do you think?
Speaker 1 (50:27):
Maybe you don't think about it now, especially because now
you're just trying to be in the moment, But like,
what do you hope people take from you? Like you
don't know what you're a legacy, But what do you
hope your life or your story, the work you do,
how do you hope that lands in the world or
affects people.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
I just hope that it lands Honestly, you know that
even with the makeup they're you know, mabeling going on here.
Speaker 3 (50:54):
You know what I mean that.
Speaker 2 (50:59):
I'm just hoping lands is truth. You know, that's all
we got. That's all we got.
Speaker 3 (51:05):
So all we got me and you me.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
Thank you, thank you, thank you we doing it. I
didn't cry at all, so I am. Yeah, I was.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
I also I didn't. I didn't want it to be
the I didn't want to be Yeah, no reason for
you to cry so well, I mean I didn't want
to take you down a road that I cry every
single day?
Speaker 2 (51:27):
You do? Yeah, still, you know every day and sometimes
it's the you know, the tears literally turned into a
happy tear, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, happy
and sad are always happening. That a little this is
(51:47):
yemmy though, I'm gonna drink buying, you know. Yeah, I'm
glad you like it. You know. It's like a sparkling no,
but a little effervescence in it.
Speaker 3 (51:59):
Yeah, it does a little efforves stuff.
Speaker 2 (52:01):
It's giving like prosecco a little. I love it. I
was beautiful. I'll just be trying to follow you. I
appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (52:09):
I'm so excited that she girl, only did you direct?
Speaker 2 (52:13):
You wrote?
Speaker 3 (52:14):
I wrote it.
Speaker 2 (52:15):
It's my story.
Speaker 1 (52:16):
But thank God because this is what I learned. First
of all, it kicked my fucking ass the first day,
like we started an hour late because I couldn't I
couldn't get the casts because of war.
Speaker 2 (52:26):
I just I was, oh no, soAnd most of the
filmmaking is that is that solving me problems? Okay?
Speaker 1 (52:35):
But I thought to myself, God really put me in
the way I was supposed to because it's my story
to fuck up.
Speaker 3 (52:43):
But if this was somebody else's baby and it was in.
Speaker 1 (52:45):
My hands, it would have I would have I would
have folded, or if it was a big budget a
lot of money, I would have wit.
Speaker 2 (52:53):
I would have freaked out. I think, so yeah, yeah,
yeah you don't think now you you would have had
a little freak out moment on your own.
Speaker 3 (53:02):
You're not a freakout or though.
Speaker 1 (53:04):
No, but like I don't know, just it made whatever
was already hard. It made a hard, really hard thing
to do.
Speaker 2 (53:11):
Take away the pressure some of the pressure because it's
mine to fuck up.
Speaker 1 (53:16):
It's my story. So it's funny because the night before
I went to this event, I saw a Spiked there
and I said. Spike came over and said, and I
was like, I'm gonna tell you this on Monday. I'm
shoot my first SWILM because you just give me two words.
I just want something, and he goes.
Speaker 2 (53:30):
Tell your story. And that was all I needed.
Speaker 1 (53:34):
Because ultimately I might not know the exact lens I
need for this right now. I might not know if
we have the transition all the way, But what I
know is the story story.
Speaker 3 (53:44):
Yeah, And I know the story bete anybody else.
Speaker 1 (53:46):
Yeah, And so that gave me the confidence to be
able to tell my story even if I didn't have
all the tools in place to. You know, I think
sometimes we're afraid to do things because we don't have
all the tools yet. So we won't jump out the
window and do something out of our comfort zone if
we don't.
Speaker 3 (54:04):
Think we're gonna kill it or we're bread. Yeah, it
has stopped me all the time.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
Oh no, that's someone had asked me a question about that,
and I said, I don't do things that I feel
like I'm not gonna win, right, I want, I'm.
Speaker 1 (54:18):
Not gonna play the game. I don't you kind of
still feel that, I tell you. We also I wanted something.
I wanted to do it. I just was never gonna
I just had to jump in. It's like jumping in
the pool. You got to jump in the pool at
some point and like it.
Speaker 2 (54:31):
So and yeah, because you know that that lag is
close enough, I'm not gonna drown because but I can't
imagine you on set, you're first directing a movie that
budget network.
Speaker 1 (54:43):
I mean, I still get nervous. Lots of high stakes. Yeah,
you know, I'm playing a little spades game at the house.
Speaker 2 (54:50):
You're playing like at a casino with millions of dollars
on the table. It's a different thing. Yeah, but it's
all high stakes because it's you. You're putting yourself out there.
It's all steaks.
Speaker 1 (55:03):
What do you say to somebody who is afraid to
put themselves out there? What do you say to yourself
or to somebody who needs to hear that right now,
let's leave them with that.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
I would say that you're being your own obstacle because
you if you don't step out, you're gonna miss all
that heavenly glory in the great words of Bruce Lee.
Speaker 3 (55:35):
If it's something like that, I'm.
Speaker 4 (55:38):
Yeah, yeah that, and we'll take dirty ass or dirty
ass Virgina King in real life.
Speaker 3 (55:49):
This is Virgina King in real life.
Speaker 1 (55:52):
For more episodes, you know to dude, subscribe like comments,
will see you on the next IRL podcast
Speaker 2 (56:00):
And
Everybody's trying to figure out something. Well, you're figuring out
it's probably way heavier than anybody in this room maybe
can understand. But everybody in the room is trying to
figure out.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Something, right. You know what is interesting that you said that.
That's something that I've remind myself. I'm glad you said
that that somebody else they got some shit too, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Like sometimes we're like, oh, you know, like.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
She said that snappy, or he has a old friend
he wasn't very hing. You don't know what someone's story
is or what just that day served for them, you
know what I mean. So I remind myself of that often,
like you know what, that's not my shit. Don't take
(00:47):
that on, you know, keep it pushing, you know what
I mean. So I don't I think I used to
be more quick to you know, let a motherfucker out,
you know, about themselves, you know that, to have the
sensitivity of everybody's got story, everybody's dealing with some shit.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
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Today's guest needs no intro, but she's gonna get one
anyway because she deserves one. Actor director producer.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Her work has shaped cultures for decades from two to seven,
which I just found out she was thirteen, where she
auditioned for uh TO films like Voice to Men, Poetic Justice,
If Beale Street could Talk, watch Ben Jerry mcguild. We
will be here too long because I have pages pages
of the work. But it has really, and this is
so true, it has defined erarors. When you think about
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these pages and what are on these pages. Regina's work
has defined errors for us in film. Behind the camera,
of course, she's given us one night in Miami.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
She's directed a few other things which we're going to
talk about today, recently showing us what strength and resilience
looks like, especially in this new venture which I love
the name and Me and.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Me and You with Ian in the middle, her new
wine which honors her son. And I am very honored
to have Regina King in the building with us.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Thank you, Yeahina, And I'm finally sitting down with Angie.
We have a death crazy right, and it's because if
you're not here, I say this, whether you're in the
room or not the room. If people ask me of
one of my favorite actresses, give me your top five
favorite actresses, I would they would be mixed up depending
on the day or my food or whatever.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
You are always going to be included in that list,
for sure.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I value your work so much.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I think I think there is something about the way
you deliver things that feels so I don't know. I
remember watching Poetic Justice, right, I know, it's just such
a come on, such a classic, but there was a moment,
and I was trying to think of it today. I
was like, what was the exact scene in that moment?
Because I literally have this memory. I guess you had
just gotten into the fight with Chicago and then Janet
(03:10):
was like.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
What is wrong with you?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
There was something about like your eyes got.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Watery, you were giving angry and sad, and you were
giving like four emotions at the same time on screen.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Do you know what moment I'm talking about?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
I think, so we're like outside, here's something, and then
they go close up your face and it's just I
don't know, that little moment I felt just struck me
so hard and I just was from that day I
was watched everything you do and I think your talent
is I love that you.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Know that I appreciate it. Why that just hits me
a certain way because that's what made me want to
be an actress. What do I mean when I saw
like Ricky Schroeder in the champ oh Hockey, Yeah, how
you made me feel and Sally Field and Sybil and
(03:58):
Norma Ray and just the way they made me like
I just I so believe them and I so all
the little nuanced things happen in just a moment, and
I was like, I want to make people feel like that.
So for you to share that, it's like, ah, well,
(04:18):
mission accomplished. Other people have different career.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
What was the moment that you because that's the moment
I felt like, oh yeah, special, What was the moment
you felt like? Man, I feel this. I bodied this
like when.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
I don't think I've ever Anybody that knows me knows
that I'm always when I see my work, I'm like,
oh I could, Why did I do that? Did I
was that? On another take? I thought, you know some
I am one of those. I'm one of those I'm
annoying like that. But when I are you a Capricorn?
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I am aha, I am so am I That's why.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
One of those two yeah, real recognized is real. Probably
I was doing a play when I was like nine
years old, I started going to acting class. Todd Bridge's
mother was our acting teacher. She had a Cambridge Academy
(05:20):
is what it was called, and it was doing a play.
And her reaction to me just kind of like reading
before we had the play had went up, just reading
the dialogue and what I was doing.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
And her reaction.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
You know, sometimes you need someone else's like confirmation to
make you know, oh, yeah, you got this, And just
her reaction made me go, oh, okay, this is something
I should be doing. So I think that that would
be pretty good. That might be pretty good at this?
Do you then go chase that maybe so? Maybe so, yeah,
(05:57):
maybe so? Wanting people to have yeah, wanting to well,
wanting to get that you made someone feel something, you know,
you you were believable, You made someone recognize themselves in
a performance Like that's like the ultimate. Isn't that?
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Like anybody who's like an authentic or true artist, right,
isn't like that?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
The goal of that is to make people feel something,
feel something like, even if it's not necessarily good, a
good something, but to make them feel something.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Yeah, I think that's absolutely.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
What are you most proud of of all your body?
At work? Is that hard. I'm sure that's I'm still
most proud of being Ian's mom. You know that Always
whenever I'm asked that question, it's hard for me to
remember life before he was born. You know, it's it's
(06:55):
it's crazy, like so many things are related to Oh yeah,
that's when Ian lost his first two that's when you know,
like moments are connected to his growing.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Moments.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah, I get that.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Yeah, so you know I do understand that, but there
is there are things even with my son, like, uh,
I don't know, I still have things that I am
proud of for me aside, like you know, I like
him to see me in my when I'm in my
bag on something. Yeah, no, you know what I'm saying,
you got you got a bag, you have a bag?
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I think, Andree, what made me say that, because it's
that's always the thought. Is I am really figuring out
this new relationship with me and I'm also figuring out
what my purpose is because, like you said, seeing your
son seeing you in your bag, like you do what
(07:52):
you do for your children, you know what I mean,
every move you make. So I'm figuring out the fe
you know, like what how do I move? What? What
why am I doing anything? You know? And so I
understand that deeply you live in a new world. Now.
(08:13):
That is just I was talking to my friend GUYE.
Tori is a good friend of mine, and we were
talking the other day and he was like, this dirty
ass Earth using that ever since taking that? Yeah, yeah,
(08:34):
dirty ass Earth. It's like I feel all of that
in those three words. Thank you for those words. Need
the word, yes, yeah, just need the words to get
it out. How has this been for you?
Speaker 1 (08:48):
It's just like, am I'm gonna be honest with you?
And the fact that I am very sensitive to just
you and your experience, because how could any human being
not be sensitive?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
So I just wonder for you.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Now I'm seeing you out, You're to impress, You're talking
to people. Well, it's one thing dealing with something quietly,
it's another thing coming outside.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Well. The unfortunate thing is when you're a celebrity, you
don't get the opportunity to deal with something quietly. You
didn't take time, you know, absolutely, But everyone is a
you know, like we witness, yeah, you know, and so yes,
definitely I took time. But I coming back into this
(09:38):
space it feels foreign in some ways. I mean, just
like freaking Instagram don't even look the same, Like, what
the hell I mean? I follow people, but I don't
see any of the people I follow. It is just ads.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
And apparently I am very into plant care because.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
In just that short amount of time, Yeah, just that
short amount of time, plant care and facial exercises to
target they target.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
What my algorithm.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
It's not right, But it didn't look like that, you know,
three and a half years ago. So I'm I'm figuring
it out. I'm putting myself with in situations that I
feel safe, you know, like I was talking to you before,
(10:37):
Like the whole podcast world is like bananas to me,
you know, like what happened to a nine minute interview?
You get hours.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Nine minutes of sharing And.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
He well, that is one of the main reasons because these.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Long forms, even me, I sit here and I sat
across from somebody and I and I want to know
all the things about their life so that I could
learn and so that my audience could learn. But then
someone sits who has a sense of the situation, and
I don't. It's not that important to me to share
any shit over what is just one and human to
another human being. Like compassionate, understanding, empathy, and so, like
(11:18):
I said to you before, like whatever your offering is
is you're offering, like you know what I mean. But
I do wonder do you do you are you to
that phase yet? Will you feel like you haven't offering yet?
You know, sometimes we go through things and then other
people heal through you or see themselves in your experience,
and I just wonder if you're even to that place yet.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
I don't know, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
I know.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
That this is the journey that God chose for, you know,
to be mine, and I'm just always trying to just
stay present in the moment and not really appreciate the
(12:09):
moment for whatever it has the offer, you know. And
so so we'll see you like that before.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
We always like that, like present, like being in the moment,
being present, because I would even imagine as what you
do as an actress, you require some of that too.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Yeah, yeah, I would say a bit of that.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
But I think that you know there and you know
this being in Capricorn, you know, we are planners. We're
always thinking ahead and preparing, you know, because we want
to control them, because we're control enthusiasts. Love that yes,
(12:52):
I feel seen. Yes, yeah, I feel seen. It's starting already,
right already, but uh so so yeah, i feel like
I'm more present in in in every moment, and I'm
(13:12):
like the simple things are I feel like, as an actor,
what we do is people watch, and but as your
anonymity goes away, you have less of an opportunity to
do that, you know, And so I've been getting back
(13:32):
into doing that. Yeah, you see, like what are you
looking for? Like, what are you watching? People? I just
I love like I'm making stories in my head, you know,
like you see a couple, you know, You're like, oh,
it's are they a couple? Couple? Or is she decided? Yeah?
You know? Or oh is that a parent in child?
(13:56):
You know, like you'll see like an eighty year old,
you know, grandmother with an adult you know, young man,
and I'm you know, wondering, is are they or are
they a couple? You know? Yeah? Yeah, so just watching
body language and you did use that for art like
(14:18):
you use that absolutely. And it's funny when a role
that you're playing, you tend to watch people that are
in the space of the role that you're playing. So
the film Caught Stealing, I had an awesome woman that
I got to learn so many stories from.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Her name is Jackie Brown.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
She's a detective during the era that the film takes
place in ninety eight. So I found myself after meeting her.
Now I'm paying attention to women cops, and I've played
so many cops before, but I have not had the
opportunity to be a New York cup.
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Speaker 2 (15:48):
So you're out here in New York watching people with
why comms.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah, being in a back ground, does that make you
do that in real life with people like.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Friendships? Like you're a good judge of character. I mean,
I would imagine. I think I am a pretty good
judge of character. I think I do see pretty quick bullshit. Yeah,
and you know what, sometimes it's not really necessarily bullshit,
but it's not shit for me. Oh yeah, not for me.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
And I think that also comes with age too. I
saw somebody say this. I think Taraji said this the
other day.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
She said, when you get to your forties, you start
caring a lot less less fucks to give by time.
In fifty you have you give to Roger say, you
get a certain amount of fucks to give in your
whole life, and by forty you start oring.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
By fifty, they're pretty much gone. If you got no
more fucks to give about anything, and except for those
that you care about, except right. Yeah. But I don't
know if it's all the way true, but I kind
of liked it as a theory. I was like, Okay,
I think I'm gonna live.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
But I think there's something to that. As women, you
get to a point.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
I think you just get to a point where you're
really drawing hard lines about no. No, I don't want to
do that.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Yeah, you know it's a powerful word. Yeah, are you
my favorite word?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
You like it? Yeah? Definitely, yeah, because it's not a
mean word, you know, But about that, well, it help
to create boundaries. I think it also women we just
give so much of ourselves, you know. You know that's
(17:28):
part of the you you know that women have a
harder time sleeping than men, because we.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Just had this conversation in the room before you got here. Yes,
actually it's actually I didn't know that. I just said
it as like I don't find that men sleep better. Yeah,
it's factual.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
It's actually like the clinical.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Yes, because just the way we're wired were we're.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
What the kids have to do? This has to do
my job, you know, we we can't. We're men are better.
They're wired in a way that they know that that
ship's still going to be there. So I'm going to sleep,
(18:17):
you know, So you just where we are it is.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Sometimes I'm like looking at my man and I'm.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Like, I do the same thing. I will punch you
in better, not snore.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
He probably thought he'd.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Be like, I'm tired, We're gonna take it out, and
then he's like.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
And he just like, like, you didn't know. It's like
I have to read some people.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
We don't do that. Yeah, we don't do that. Why.
I know it's not fair.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
There's many things that are not fair. I do love
your commitment to supporting women and to I know that
you have said publicly too that you've made a commitment
to like work with fifty percent more women.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Yeah, I absolutely love that I had experienced yesterday and
the day before that I would like to share with you.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yeah, I want you to you a little bit.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Yesterday but I had Tasha Tasha Smith on, who's amazing
and funny and support.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
All the thing is.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
And I shared with her that I was doing something
out of my comfort zone and I was gonna direct
this short film and the script that I wrote whatever.
She was just mad supportive about it.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Oh my god, Sis, you could do it.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
And so the next day I wrote, I was finishing,
I was, I was tightening up the script a little,
and I had this new scene that now had a
mom in it.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
And the next day.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
I called Tasha and I said, if this is crazy,
I promised I would never feel no way.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
You could totally say.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
No, but I have this little role if you if
it struck your if it's and you wanted to do it,
it would be a dream. And she's like, well, Sis,
I got to do this thing, and I gotta do
this thing, but I think I can move that in
this and yeah, yes, I'll be there.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Sasha Smith came down to my little.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Low budget directorial debut and played the role of Gloria.
My mom's name is Oria. I love that and showed
up and was lovely to because, you know, because we
don't have no permits. Yeah, yeah, yeah, student, it's like
a student film. Like, yeah, it's like a.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Student And she got in there, and you know, there
was like a moment where I appreciate it so greatly,
not because of what it does for me in my
career or because maybe more people will watch the Shore.
It's just like when we talk about empowerment and supporting
each other.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
We get on the panels.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Yeah, we say the things, but when somebody actually says,
I don't need to do that, but let me let me, yeah,
let me show up for shore up with this thing
for And by the way, she could have said no,
and I still would have felt I love her to down.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
It doesn't matter. And she if she had said no,
it was only because she actually couldn't you know what
I mean. I want to and she's entitled to not
want you to. That's totally fine, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
But when people show up for you in that way,
it's just I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
I just think there is something to be said.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
And so shout out to Tasha for that. Hey, guys,
it's Angie. Thank you so much for watching the pod today.
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Speaker 2 (22:10):
Shout out to you for asking though, because so many people,
because because it is a small film, because it is like, uh,
do you think that's okay to ask? Closed mouth? Drunk
you fed? So I struggle with that. Yeah, I hate
asking for you, Yeah I do. I hate asking for
you too, you know, well, do you do it sometimes
(22:31):
I'm getting better as That's why I said, kudos to
you for asking, you know, because Brittany push, she was
like I ask her. She's so supportive, She's she wants
to spell Like, yeah, good for you.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
I think one of the most proud of is though,
because I think going back to my point was just
like we get to a certain point.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
You have this, you have four pages of this, Like
what moves you to keep.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Wanting to do more, you know, wanting to create new things,
being new films, make a whine. I know your son
obviously inspired the wine, but like, I don't know, just
finding things to keep us growing and keep us learning,
and well, the last thing I want to do is
stop learning, you know, because then like, what's the point
if you ever had like a conversation with a person
(23:15):
that like knows everything.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
A person that thinks they know every That's what I'm
saying to.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Them, Yeah, you knows everything. That's just so uninteresting. I just,
especially with the directing, I always feel like I'm in
this place where I'm learning something new.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
I mean, just that little experience that you had over.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Going me, it makes me understand or even just value
what you must be experiencing Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I don't know. I guess as
long as that fire is inside of me, the desire
to want to express all what's in me. You know,
I think every ten years or years or so, you
(24:06):
kind of are a bit of a different person, you know,
especially now you're like, yeah for sure, oh I'm yeah yeah.
How does that work with art? How does that work
with how you create? Well, part of the work art now.
It also is it's good for my mind not going
(24:28):
into dark places and there there's I guess in a
lot of ways some healing that happens for me, not
that I'm actually going out seeking it in all of
(24:48):
the things that I've done over the past.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Four years.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Yeah, I can.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Imagine, especially the wine. Yeah, I gotta imagine that's there's
a lot of healing in that.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
No, it is because it's feel It is something that
Ian and I are creating a memory, a new memory together,
you know that think when you're talking to people and
they're talking about oh, their child is doing this or that,
(25:22):
you know, and your memories you know kind of stop
at a certain place, and how do I Because He
in spirit is always with me, so how do I
do that. I mean, the man in my life is
(25:44):
such a wonderful human being, and so his constant reminding me,
you know, when I'm in.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
The really.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
You never know when the the real dark moments are
going to come. They're always and so when I'm in
that place and he's always, don't wipe the tears, let
them fall into Ian's spirit bull and just taking the
idea of that and realizing, okay, you can, we're going
(26:26):
to create new memories.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Yeah, and we're going to create new memories.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
And so it just kind of was birthed out of that,
you know, just remembering them remembering something and creating that
something and creating a new memory. I've never heard somebody
explain that that way. That's really beautiful. Oh well, I
(26:54):
don't think I've ever explained that that, you know, in depth.
You know, you'll fine, you know, when I'm talking, I
take a lot of pauses. I'm really always trying to
make sure I am saying exactly what I'm feeling. And also,
you know, we're in the culture that you know, we'll
(27:18):
do this whole podcast and then someone will take one
little thing, you know, and run with that. No, it's
my I hate that I try to protect people because
I do appreciate when people come share their stories. Sometimes
they're vulnerable, sometimes they're whatever. Just and I know it's
been good intent, you know. And then we try to
pull clips that reflect the truth about costs. Yeah, but
(27:40):
it's you can't control it anything. The universe andice out
there for people to do whatever they want, I know
to especially with some dirty ass earth, this dirty as earth.
We're just trying to make beautiful that have to do
beautiful things in this dirty as earth.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I'm taking that with you.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yeah, I mean, please.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
It all right, let's do we have some in real
life questions?
Speaker 1 (28:11):
If you don't pay, can we bring in the wine?
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Yes? Okay? And by the way, yes, I love that
your show it's called in real life because that's also
part of me and you because we are so far
away from in real lifetime. You know, everything is here,
we're living we're literally living here. And so one thing
(28:38):
that wine does you have to slow down, you have
to have an actual connective moment. It encourages that, you know,
can we open the wine? Can we do it?
Speaker 3 (28:50):
So I feel like me and you and in real life.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
It all all to its now you opening up my
bottle of me and you. I'm gonna have to have
a little bit now. Just know I have not eaten,
so give me just a I love that and it
tastes so good.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
I know it's my one, but.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
I want, I want to share something with you, and
we don't.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
It's tricky because I'm being so sensitive, but it's also
it's all my spirit is honest. I have a really
good friend who had a very similar experience to yours,
and I've watched her very closely through it.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
And how she navigates.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
And it's just something about the way that you tell
this story and the purpose behind it, at least the
way you shared it today. We were talking earlier about
how you're not sure if you are for your story
to help inspire land for other people. I think that's
already happening.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
You know.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
That's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
You know what I'm saying. I think, uh, because because
you're as you're sharing that, I'm thinking.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Of her and that's my immediate thought.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
But I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
You know wherever it lands for other people, that it's
just a I just think it's already happening, you.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Know what I mean, Well, if it is happening, and
that's a beautiful.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Why Why am I having such a hard time?
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Why is I think it needs to go in a
little bit more?
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Also, I'm exhausted. All right, we get it done. And
by the way, me and You.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Is a phenomenal name.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
I know, where did that come from? I mean, when
did you? Was this? Who thought of that? I was
having one of my moments of you know, I just
don't know what to do. I just I'm because I'm
missing in so much, you know, And.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
My man was saying, I said, I said me and you.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I said something like that, and he said, he's always
with you. You just said his name. And I was like,
what he said, every time you say me and you
ends with you. And I was like, did you cry
like a baby when he said that, because well, the
sad tears turned into I wouldn't even call it happy tears,
(31:17):
but just kind of like yeah, just kind of like
an kind of like an aha moment type, you know.
And so he said that, and it wasn't like a
year later that the idea came up for the wine
(31:38):
and I was like, it's got to be called me
and you you know, yeah, it's really because it's it's
me and my co he's you know, and when that
was our nickname, always co my coat.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Yeah, the co.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Creator coll this cod oh, I don't think like a
cold like no, yeah yeah yeah, same thing. You know.
When he was doing a report for school and it
was on Explorers and he wanted to uh do it
on a black Explore, so he decided made Jamison and
(32:16):
so we were reading and they said she went on
a co mission with I think it was a Russian
space team, could be wrong, but he was like, co mission,
what was cold? And I was like, well, I kind
of explained what it meant. He was like kind of
like me and you, and I was like yeah. So
from that moment it was we've always been cosed and
(32:37):
we're still cold.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
You will be forever forever, forever, never forever.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Yeah all right, mama, get in your uh can I
buy you some wine? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (32:48):
What's your go to self care ritual when you you know,
my glasses in want now when you're burned out?
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Oh wow, my goat. There's a lot of different things.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
A facial is something about getting a facial, yes, yes, yes,
in swimming really swimming. Yeah, yeah, it's good for you
both for your arms, your arms, shoulder, and then also
just floating, feeling as close to weightlessness as possible.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
These are in real life questions you could pass or
you could tell me whatever you like in real life.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
What is one thing you no longer apologize for?
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Hmmm? I still that's one place I need to work on.
I still say I'm sorry you do. I do so
of character I didn't know I know about that life. Yeah,
I'm not. I don't as much as I used to,
(33:55):
but I do still.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
In real life, I am at my best when.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Hmmm, Angie, I'm still trying to figure that out. Really, Yeah, yeah,
that is a hard one. Would you say, what's mine? Honestly?
Speaker 1 (34:15):
I think it's what we're kind of what we're talking
about before, Like I'm like you, I talk shit like
I don't care, but yeah we care, Like we say sorry,
we feel.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Bad if we heard somebody's feelings.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
But I'm really starting to.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Transition into a space where like, I don't feel bad
because I know I'm a good person person, right, I
know I'm a nice person. You're so what is best
for me offends you? I'm okay with that.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Yeah, okay, yeah you know what? No, I love that
have there's this woman on Instagram because, like I said,
I'm just getting back on it, and I'm so happy
that she popped up on my feet because that how
I follow her w d C we oh yeah, you
(35:03):
don't do not care? Do not care? And that was
one of the things she said, we do not Yeah, yeah, yeah,
well I want to be a mayor member.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
But she says that in one of her things, we no.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Longer care about.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Yeah, I no longer care about.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
If your feelings are hurt, that's that's that's not our problem.
That's there. Yes, Yeah, it's a good feeling.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
And I think I'm at my best when I'm operating
that day because I do my instincts are good, So
I am going to do good by right by.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
People just naturally.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
So if I'm always like trying to pivot to make
people happy as opposed to just doing what I believe
is like the right thing to do, and sometimes it
sols you down, and I don't know, maybe all the
times it's a good answer. But that's definitely one thing
that's like the first thing.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
That came to me. Yeah, that I'm still trying to
figure out what my answer is really Maybe we maybe
we'll come back to it.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Yeah, you're in a weird season of your life. I
am you may have had an answer.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
To that before. I'm I'm pretty sure I would have
that into that before, probably quit. You're trying to get
through today.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Yeah, yeah, I totally get that.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Okay, Lately in real life, lately, I've been reminding myself
that is there anything that you have to remind yourself
of lately?
Speaker 2 (36:20):
M I love how thoughtful you are. Right there was like, yeah,
maybe no, not that one, because I was going to say, lately,
I've been reminding myself that I'm beautiful.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Because I think I have not.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
I'm just kind of getting back to looking in the
mirror more and you know, you know what I mean,
Like there's one way you know, you're looking and marry
and just doing your hair, you're not really looking at yourself.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
So I think that that.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Is is that's interesting. Yeah, we're not not reminded that
that I reminding myself that I think I'm beautiful, not
the validation from outward, but that I'm beautiful. And I
know that's the reason why I kind of like was thinking,
(37:20):
like should I say that?
Speaker 3 (37:21):
But yeah, that's okay. Yeah, yeah, it's my ship totally allowed.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Mm hmm. Not sure about that one. Well, because you know, yeah,
well then go to the next one. She said, no,
leave that one alone from Miss Regina over here. But
thank you.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
I appreciate for looking out for your sister.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Well listen, we're all we're all just here trying to
figure it out, trying to figure it out.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Everybody's trying to figure out something. Well, you're figuring out.
It's probably way heavier than anybody in this room maybe
can understand, but everybody in the room's trying to figure.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Out something, right. You know what is interesting that you
said that. That's something that I've remind myself. I'm glad
you said that that somebody else they got some shit too,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Like sometimes we're like, oh, you know, like.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
She said that snappy, or he has a old friend,
he wasn't very ring. You don't know what someone's story
is or what just that day served for them, you
know what I mean. So I remind myself of that often, like,
you know what, that's not my shit.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Don't take that on, you know, keep it pushing, you
know what I mean. So I don't I think I.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Used to be more quick to you know, let a
motherfucker out, you know, about themselves. You know that to
have the sensitivity of everybody's got story. Everybody's dealing with
some shit. It seems like now more than ever. Honestly, Well,
we're we're in a real interesting time. Yeah, like we're
(39:20):
just everything feels dystopian, Like what did he say? What
was the quote? This dirt? Well, yeah, this dirty ass?
Or what about what about the other side of the
dirty ass? Like what what do you see?
Speaker 3 (39:39):
What do you have hope? And what do you see beauty?
Speaker 2 (39:41):
And like what is what is the other side of that? Well?
Speaker 3 (39:46):
I really appreciate my.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Relationships, you know. I see the beauty in how we
care for each other, in all of those relationships, you know,
and the beauty in that, you know, I have people
on my team that have been on my team for
thirty years. Wow.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
You know a lot of people in this business don't
have that, you know. You know, my mom's eighty one,
you know.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
And she you know, she's you know, losing some of
her independence and appreciating that my sister and I are
able to be there. I appreciate my sister, my stepsister,
but my mom is in Cincinnati, and she looks out,
(40:42):
you know, for my mom, like she's her mom. She
is her mom, and that's our sister. So again appreciating
I see. Another question was what do I see hope in?
But I do feel like that that connects some way too. Yeah,
(41:03):
the world is not it's not old dirt. It's not
all dirt. Yeah, it's not old dirt. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
How often do you think about your legacy?
Speaker 2 (41:10):
I don't know that I think about it really at all,
because if I'm not here, you know, so I don't
really think about it. You know, people don't say them
what they think anyway, you know, what they what this
person remembers me for him, it's going to be different
than what this person remembers me from. So no, I
don't really think about it. I'm really when I tell you,
(41:32):
I am in the moment. I'm in the moment. I
never thought i'd be a wine maker. Never yet here
we are, by the way, we haven't even yeah, cheers.
What do I need to know about this wine? So
lou Well, smell the nose first, that's pretty. I don't
know that.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
I know the orange wine is a thing I have
none never Yeah, my first orange one.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Yeah, that's really good. Oh, that's really good. How much
of them are you drinking this often? Is this every
day thing?
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Well? She said, well, I'd like for it to be,
but no, you know this right man, I'll get the sweats.
He's not taking my gosh. I had Adrian, Adrian here
the other day, she had she was having a sweat
moment here right here in the chair. Yeah, and she
shared with us in real time. Yes, that sweat was Yeah,
(42:29):
it was a real I get. It's not I get
the nice if I drink too much, you get to
not get the night sweat.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
I get the nights.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
How are you managing that season of life and that
all of that?
Speaker 3 (42:39):
You know, it's really really really.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Interesting because I'm grateful that we are. Oh this is
my whole thing. There is hope for me because that
women will the next generation of women and when they
walk into this stage of life, it won't feel so
(43:07):
so brought the hell like and scary like what is
my body doing? Because we're talking about it. Yeah, you know,
thank you just being Melanie, you know, thank you Ali
Barry for sure, because you know, at first, for me,
(43:28):
my body really just like shut down, and there's something
really to have this loss that I have while.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
I'm going through menopause.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
It is you think you're losing your mind, you know,
and just just talk to other women and you're not
losing your mind, you know?
Speaker 3 (44:00):
Do you how do you describe it?
Speaker 2 (44:02):
How do you explain it? Or how did was it
explained to you that maybe helped you deal my gnacologists,
you know, doctor Lantre is just such. She just was
keen to that I am this age and she's actually
the one that said to me, it is cruel that
(44:27):
this is happening to you right now, and I need
you to know that whatever comes out of you, you
are one thousand percent allowed to have that. Yes, you know,
and it's okay, and it's actually normal, even though none
(44:51):
of it feels normal. And I think just her identifying
that for me, you know, like just your your emotions
being just all over the place, and how why can't
(45:15):
I control, you know, and being a person that needs
to be in control and not being in control, and
and and having this whole inside it's I'll tell you,
(45:39):
which would definitely.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Helped me.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
I started, just like three months ago, started hormone replacement therapy. Yeah,
because I don't it wasn't. I was not in a
good place at all. And it was doctors that I had.
I had actually like two good girlfriends of mine, and
(46:08):
they don't know each other, both saw what I was
going through physically, and both of them had done it.
And they're women that you know, like some of your friends,
they might like, yeah, I trusted them, and both of
them had suggested that I tried, and I actually saw
(46:31):
one of them. I saw how she came back, Like
I saw what Melicent was like, you know, before hitting menopause,
and then was with her going through it, and then
saw her get her everything kind of back, you know,
and so I was like, oh, and then I saw
(46:54):
the same thing with Loretta, and so then I and
then my trainer he was like, because I'm trying to
go to the gym and Angie, I can't. I couldn't
fucking touch my toes and it was so like what
is going on? You know, and miss in the midst
of everything else, and so he was like, reaching up,
(47:16):
I really think you should consider checking out hormone replacement therapy.
And I was like, you know, you know, two of
my girlfriends said that. I said, Okay, I'm gonna talk
to my doctor and she was like, apps, absolutely, I
would suggest it for you. And after like the first
(47:37):
three weeks, I started I didn't realize that my body
because I'm such an athletic person, I'm I depend on
my body for everything. I mean, we all do. But
you know, when you're a really athletic person and you're
going and all the time, and now your body's like
you feel like you're eighty years old just getting out
(47:58):
of fucking bed, you know what I mean. That's not no,
it's not okay.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
And so.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
In like three weeks, I started feeling, all right, Okay,
I can touch my toes again. Now I'm looking forward
to going to the gym. You know, body starts feeling.
My body started feeling, you know, like every like to
just do simple things like just picking up. So it
(48:29):
was just crazy. It was like I was like I
was in someone else's body. It just was kind of
mind blowing. And no one prepares you for that. No
one tells you your body is gonna say fuck you.
Because maybe the next woman, maybe that's not her experience.
Speaker 3 (48:47):
Her experience might be something else, you know, hers might
be more brain fog.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
You know, there's probably nobody that definitely prepares you for
the level.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
Just the whole thing at the same time, and the menopause.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
There is no blueprint, is there.
Speaker 3 (49:03):
Like a book, is like a pamphlet, nothing like how
none of it?
Speaker 2 (49:07):
How do you manage that? But I will say that
the placement definitely, thank God, definitely thank God.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
No, really literally, thank god?
Speaker 2 (49:18):
How could you? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (49:19):
How could you?
Speaker 2 (49:19):
Possibly?
Speaker 1 (49:21):
It's like when you're going through anything, it's like sorting.
For me, whenever I'm like going through anything, it's like
sorting through it so I can identify it, so I
could manage it.
Speaker 3 (49:29):
Yeah, because yeah, but when I can't identify something and
it starts eating at.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
You, and even anxiety is all that.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
I can't imagine being in the world of those two
things colliding. Yeah, and then you can't even identify what
is attributed to this?
Speaker 4 (49:43):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (49:44):
Yeah? Girl? Yeah? Girl, you are a superhero in a warrior. No, really,
you are a warrior for sure. For sure.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
I mean I think you probably always have been a
warrior to some ext it.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
Definitely, if not in this life and other lies, I
was some fierce something had to be man, Well, we
love you. You inspire all of us. Yeah, you're just
you are a warrior?
Speaker 3 (50:19):
What is I asked this in real life we can
go out with this.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
It's like I told you, like the purpose of this podcast,
I wonder for you, what do you think?
Speaker 1 (50:27):
Maybe you don't think about it now, especially because now
you're just trying to be in the moment, But like,
what do you hope people take from you? Like you
don't know what you're a legacy, But what do you
hope your life or your story, the work you do,
how do you hope that lands in the world or
affects people.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
I just hope that it lands Honestly, you know that
even with the makeup they're you know, mabeling going on here.
Speaker 3 (50:54):
You know what I mean that.
Speaker 2 (50:59):
I'm just hoping lands is truth. You know, that's all
we got. That's all we got.
Speaker 3 (51:05):
So all we got me and you me.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
Thank you, thank you, thank you we doing it. I
didn't cry at all, so I am. Yeah, I was.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
I also I didn't. I didn't want it to be
the I didn't want to be Yeah, no reason for
you to cry so well, I mean I didn't want
to take you down a road that I cry every
single day?
Speaker 2 (51:27):
You do? Yeah, still, you know every day and sometimes
it's the you know, the tears literally turned into a
happy tear, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, happy
and sad are always happening. That a little this is
(51:47):
yemmy though, I'm gonna drink buying, you know. Yeah, I'm
glad you like it. You know. It's like a sparkling no,
but a little effervescence in it.
Speaker 3 (51:59):
Yeah, it does a little efforves stuff.
Speaker 2 (52:01):
It's giving like prosecco a little. I love it. I
was beautiful. I'll just be trying to follow you. I
appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (52:09):
I'm so excited that she girl, only did you direct?
Speaker 2 (52:13):
You wrote?
Speaker 3 (52:14):
I wrote it.
Speaker 2 (52:15):
It's my story.
Speaker 1 (52:16):
But thank God because this is what I learned. First
of all, it kicked my fucking ass the first day,
like we started an hour late because I couldn't I
couldn't get the casts because of war.
Speaker 2 (52:26):
I just I was, oh no, soAnd most of the
filmmaking is that is that solving me problems? Okay?
Speaker 1 (52:35):
But I thought to myself, God really put me in
the way I was supposed to because it's my story
to fuck up.
Speaker 3 (52:43):
But if this was somebody else's baby and it was in.
Speaker 1 (52:45):
My hands, it would have I would have I would
have folded, or if it was a big budget a
lot of money, I would have wit.
Speaker 2 (52:53):
I would have freaked out. I think, so yeah, yeah,
yeah you don't think now you you would have had
a little freak out moment on your own.
Speaker 3 (53:02):
You're not a freakout or though.
Speaker 1 (53:04):
No, but like I don't know, just it made whatever
was already hard. It made a hard, really hard thing
to do.
Speaker 2 (53:11):
Take away the pressure some of the pressure because it's
mine to fuck up.
Speaker 1 (53:16):
It's my story. So it's funny because the night before
I went to this event, I saw a Spiked there
and I said. Spike came over and said, and I
was like, I'm gonna tell you this on Monday. I'm
shoot my first SWILM because you just give me two words.
I just want something, and he goes.
Speaker 2 (53:30):
Tell your story. And that was all I needed.
Speaker 1 (53:34):
Because ultimately I might not know the exact lens I
need for this right now. I might not know if
we have the transition all the way, But what I
know is the story story.
Speaker 3 (53:44):
Yeah, And I know the story bete anybody else.
Speaker 1 (53:46):
Yeah, And so that gave me the confidence to be
able to tell my story even if I didn't have
all the tools in place to. You know, I think
sometimes we're afraid to do things because we don't have
all the tools yet. So we won't jump out the
window and do something out of our comfort zone if
we don't.
Speaker 3 (54:04):
Think we're gonna kill it or we're bread. Yeah, it
has stopped me all the time.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
Oh no, that's someone had asked me a question about that,
and I said, I don't do things that I feel
like I'm not gonna win, right, I want, I'm.
Speaker 1 (54:18):
Not gonna play the game. I don't you kind of
still feel that, I tell you. We also I wanted something.
I wanted to do it. I just was never gonna
I just had to jump in. It's like jumping in
the pool. You got to jump in the pool at
some point and like it.
Speaker 2 (54:31):
So and yeah, because you know that that lag is
close enough, I'm not gonna drown because but I can't
imagine you on set, you're first directing a movie that
budget network.
Speaker 1 (54:43):
I mean, I still get nervous. Lots of high stakes. Yeah,
you know, I'm playing a little spades game at the house.
Speaker 2 (54:50):
You're playing like at a casino with millions of dollars
on the table. It's a different thing. Yeah, but it's
all high stakes because it's you. You're putting yourself out there.
It's all steaks.
Speaker 1 (55:03):
What do you say to somebody who is afraid to
put themselves out there? What do you say to yourself
or to somebody who needs to hear that right now,
let's leave them with that.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
I would say that you're being your own obstacle because
you if you don't step out, you're gonna miss all
that heavenly glory in the great words of Bruce Lee.
Speaker 3 (55:35):
If it's something like that, I'm.
Speaker 4 (55:38):
Yeah, yeah that, and we'll take dirty ass or dirty
ass Virgina King in real life.
Speaker 3 (55:49):
This is Virgina King in real life.
Speaker 1 (55:52):
For more episodes, you know to dude, subscribe like comments,
will see you on the next IRL podcast
Speaker 2 (56:00):
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