October 11, 2025 • 25 mins
This week Angie Martinez sits down with her producer Brittany Ortiz to unpack the biggest takeaways from recent episodes featuring Sherri Shepherd and Doja Cat , two women redefining strength, humor, and authenticity.
From Sherri’s lessons on female friendship, womanhood, and the importance of finding your tribe, to Doja Cat’s accountability, and being misunderstood reflects on how every conversation becomes a mirror for growth.
They also get real about what it means to find your voice, ask for help, and trust the process even when the path shifts.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
This episode of IRL podcast is powered by boost Mobile.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
What's up, guys, we are back.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
This is an Edge Martinez IRL Weekly episode.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I'm sitting here with my producer, Brittany Orti.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
We are going through some of the things that happened
this week on the show.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Sherry Shepherd episode just drops.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Sherry is great, right, Yeah, you know when she's on
the show, she's always like, I don't know when anybody
has to be like the life of the party all
the time, I almost feel bad for them, Like I'm
almost like it's okay, like we could just chill. You
don't have to like make me laugh or you don't
have to make me smile. Like I feel like Sherry
walks around.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
It's almost like a burden in a wheel.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Not in a bad way, it's a burden she carries
wildly and well, like she wants everybody in a room
to feel happy, smiling, laughing.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
That would be exhausting to me, even what I expect.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I mean, I'm on the rebend on the radio for
mad years. I always feel like I want to give
people good energy. But the idea of having to make
people like laugh or I don't know, just enlightened, joyous,
all the time every day that talk show. Life is
different and also she's not. She doesn't have a perfect life,
Like she has challenges in her life. She's been through
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two very difficult divorces. You know, her son has is
on the spectrum, and she talks about the beauty of that,
but also the challenges of that. Yeah, just like I
think it was it was nice to get to know
her a little bit in a different way.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
My favorite, my favorite thing from her was when she's
talking about friendship and like the importance of female women womanhood.
This keeps coming up a lot, like it's a topic
that's really important to me. Actually, yeah, cause building your tribe.
Like I'm in a phase right now where I'm like, okay,
let me hone in a little bit on like, yeah,
who is my group of girlfriends? When Sha was talking
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about I'm buying a place in Italy with my girlfriend
and when we go to dinner we all put our
cards down, I'm like, that sounds great.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Where they at? Where I'm friends at? Can you bring
those friends to the God.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
She's also at a different place in her life than
you are. That's true, and probably some of your friends
are still trying to find their way. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
but yes, that is a nice thing. I do have
that with my friends too, even friends that, like, you know,
I have friends that do really well, like better than me,
you know what I mean. I have like friends even
like Mary. Coming up, Mary was more advanced in terms
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of what she was making money wise, and we would
all go to dinner and she always was like, I
got dinner. I got dinner, I got dinner. But then
it became like, you don't have to you don't have
to do that, like, but she's always taken back when
we do it.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
We're like, nah, I got dinner. No, I got it.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
And now we kind of just all put our now
at this point, at our big ages, now we all
just put our cards on the table and every like
why should one person have always It's nice to do
it sometimes with your friends, but like, yeah, we don't.
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You know what's a faux pa?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
And my friend group is like if this is always
a high topic of discussion. If we all go to
dinner whatever, it's like four or five people, and like
one person doesn't eat or drink as many things, but
they want to count the bill.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah, yeah, well that's tricky when you're counting your money
to make sure you have enough for rent. It.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
I so I do understand it.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
If you're like, if you have a budget to spend
this much so you can make your monthly bills and
you go out with your friends and lem me just
wanted six.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Shots and you're like, that's not in my budget.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I do understand that you got to tell somebody that
before it come out.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah, don't come outside then, right, or.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Tell when you get invited to be like yo, I
can't do it, and then wait for somebody else to offer,
like because I'm the type of friend like yo, tell me,
tell me on the side of the group chat like.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yo, brit like it ain't looking cute right now. I'm like, word,
don't even say nothing. I got it, Like, yeah, you
don't like to be surprised.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
No, you showed up in your good outfit and now
it's like I just had a water though in a salad.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Huh, you got a big salad and for my fries.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I mean, you know. So I'm still looking more of
the story there is. I'm still figuring out hmm at.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Your friend group speaker than that though, because them girlfriends
man like Sherry was saying, it's like those moments. So
she talks about getting served after her I could see
that darkness for her after her divorce and having to
go on stage and she just lost it, crying and
her friend being able to be there and holding her
it really be your girls, and I'll tell you something
like recently, I'm at some point I should probably share
(05:26):
it on the pod. I've been dealing with some stuff
in my life and one of my girlfriends said to me,
shout out to Mary Floyd, love you to death. She
was like, you know, it's okay to lean into your
support system, which.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Sounds so that's hard for a hyper independent way, but
it sounds very you know, like a simple thing of advice.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
But the truth is is like I don't often think
like that because I'm a like you said, independent, I've
always taking care of myself. I always so, and I
don't ask for a lot from people. So the giving
myself the grace to be like, yeah, no I need.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
You to do that for me. Yeah, can you do that?
Can you do it for one more day? Can you
do this?
Speaker 3 (06:02):
And then remember when CARTI was on and she was like,
she was like, I'm not the type of person that.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Likes to ask people for any single thing.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
She said, I'd rather sleep on the train than ask
anybody for anything.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Like That's how deep it goes. I feel her on that.
I do feel her on that.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
But sometimes especially when you're in a in something like
if you're the person who's always in something, then that
could be tricky because because your friends don't want the
burden of you. But if you're like somebody who doesn't
usually ask for much, give yourself a little grace when
you're in the middle of a storm or something where
you need people to you need the support team, the
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people you've poured into to be able to be there
for you in that time. I think, I don't know.
For me, that's an important thing for me to remind myself.
And I have been really good at my friendships over
the years. I've picked great friends, I've chosen well. I
haven't had my friends surprise me in many ways, haven't
you know what I mean? Like, I've chosen well and
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and so I have that, so why not.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Use it when you need it. It's like it's like insurance.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
It's like it's also a good way to test out
to refine your friend group because then if you're not
a person that you know asks a lot and then
you finally you pull that card out, that get out
of jail free card, and then someone asks funny, it's like, oh, well,
maybe you needed to kick the curb.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah, exactly, exactly. So it's also good for that. I
feel that we've had some good episodes.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
We just had Doja Cat also Dojah.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
She's she's like, I can't explain it. She's just just
like little artsy, unique.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Little unicorn, right, Like, she's like her own person, very different,
very kind of comfortable in her quirkiness in a weird way.
Which I love that because that those are fun people
to kind of get to know. So I love that episode.
You guys could check that out. That was right before Sherry.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yeah, do you have a favorite Dojah moment?
Speaker 1 (08:02):
You know what I liked when she was talking about
Sissa and and and not just Sissa but Lady Gaga.
It's just she's such an artist and she so deeply
appreciated them. It was cute to see that she was
getting wateryied talking about Sissa. But then also when she
was talking about Lady Gaga, she was like, it's not
about her even as an artist, because you can look
at Dojacat and go, oh, she's make sense, influenced by
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Lady Gaga, clearly, but she's like, it's not her music,
it's not her art.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
It's like the way she treats her fans. The way
she treats her how gracious she is.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
So she's like that is like inspiring to me, Like
I wish to kind of live up to that level
of like just graciousness or whatever. And so I thought,
I don't know, I thought that was really telling about
the person she is. She's trying to be, the person
she is and the person she's trying to be, which anyway,
it was a few great moments.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Well the person she's bouncing off of that.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
You know, she's trying to be gracious to her friends,
and she talks about that viral moment that happened with
when the guy.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
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I think a lot of times, like you know, celebrities whatever,
are like hyper.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Criticized on the internet.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
I think she actually handled that situation with a lot
of grace and a lot of she took a lot
of accountability, like in that you mean in an interview, Yeah,
that's a conversation.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yeah, she took a lot.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Of accountability, which I don't think people because because then
after you say, yo, my bad, I fucked up. This
is how I feel about it? Then what But she
didn't really say that it yeah, but she said it halfway.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
She was like, she was halfway. But she's also like,
but I don't want to expect more. So she's like, also,
I don't want to perform for you and be like
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Will you forgive me?
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Because a lot of times when people are looking to
get back in your good graces, it does become performative.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
It does become like remember the times when people would
would have their written thing and they turn on the
camera and get in front of the thing and be like, yeah,
I just want to say that I am so deeply.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Sorry, I'm court by my actions and I never blah
blah blah blah blah. I don't see Doja ever doing
something like that. And so I think she knows that
she didn't love that moment for herself. She didn't love
maybe how she handled that, and she definitely expressed that
in the conversation. But she was also like, but what
I'm not going to do is be out here and
performing begging you guys to still like me.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
It is what it is. It was an apology enough
for me.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
You just liked it is my type, my type of apology,
like I, yeah, maybe I might I might have been,
but also relax on me because this is what I was,
this is how I was experienced.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, Yes, that shit happens. But I
like the idea.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
I like the idea of even if you don't handle
something in the most perfect way, it's like not not
necessarily being apologetic fully, like not necessarily feeling the need
to make everybody still like you. Like you could feel apologetic,
but you could also not feel the need to overly
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make people believe that you're apologetic, because.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Then it's a fine line. Then it comes off fake.
It's performative.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah, it's like you're doing it because you want them
to perceive you in a way versus how I really feel, like, yeah,
I was kind of whack.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
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That's that's good, right, that's good with me, Like, say,
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I didn't. I don't want ever people to think I'm
you know that to me is like I mean, for everybody,
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Speaker 4 (15:13):
What's up, Angie? You've built such a respective voice in
this industry by being real, grounded and true to yourself,
and I love you for that. What advice would you
give someone like me who's still finding their voice trying
to build a career that feels authentic but also powerful
like yours.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Oh my god, that's a loaded question. It's hard. It's
like a lifelong thing trying to figure that out.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
It's a whole lifelong thing. Because here's the thing, figure
out what works for you right now. It's good to
have tenure plans and lifelong plans and all that, and
you should have those plans, but you should also get
to know yourself who you are right now, what feels good,
what motivates you. And it's a lot to do a
gut to finding your path and trust if you love
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doing something, do that and keep going in that direction,
even if you don't know where it lands on the
other side, and you keep going and then you find
ways to kind of explore whatever that thing is. And
I know it's complicated for some people because some people
have bills to pay and they're like, Okay, that sounds great,
but I also have a day job. You can still
have your day job. You can still have your day
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job and find something that you're passionate about. And if
you give it two hours a day, if you give
it three hours a day, if you give it all weekend,
and then when you after your day job, like, you
can serve a drive, a passion, and so I say,
you just go. It's always like one step in front
of the other. And honestly, that shit changes all the time.
You can have a dream, think you figured it out,
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and then three years later you're like, yeah, you know what,
this don't really work for me anymore, and now you
got to pivot.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
And that has happened to me plenty of times. I'll
start something, I'd be like, I don't love this, but
I did this.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Learn this from Oprah that you should you should finish
what you start, because sometimes you get a little put
like and I have to get better, like even I
have to check myself on that because sometimes I start
things and I'm like, oh, it didn't really come out
like I liked, so and then i'm creative, so I'm
ready to move on to the next thing. But it's like, no,
try something, finish it, move, keep moving, keep moving forward,
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doing things that feel good in your soul, and it'll
come to you it. Plans will come to you, ideas
will come to you, opportunities will come to you, and
then you can follow.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Them as you go. And does that make sense?
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
The last weekly when we talked about us shooting the
short film, we got back our first edit and it's
not what you've pictured in your head.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
You want to tell them what it was. Okay, that's fine.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I just shot a short film that I wrote and
directed and I got the first pass back and I'm like,
oh God, this doesn't look like it looked in my head.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
What do I gotta do now?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
And So, because I have podcasts, a radio show, I
have a whole bunch of other things going on, it's
kind of been sitting for a week, but I refuse,
so like, all next week I'm gonna be working on
it because I do believe in the story and I
do believe in all the people that help me make
that happen, and I.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Do want to the goal always, and this happens too.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
It's like you have to remind yourself of your goals
because you can forget them. The goal always was for me,
as I had something on my bucket list, was to write,
create direct something all the way through. So I don't
finish it, then I sell myself short. I I didn't
even do that, so I have to finish it. And
then also, if I'm being honest, no matter how it
ends up, no matter how it comes up, if I
could get it to look like I want it, or
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if I don't, I still learn so much in the process.
So then there's so I take that experience and that
helps me build on the next experience, and it keeps
me going in the direction chasing something that I'm actually
falling in love with doing. So your hip bomps on
the road. Shit won't always go right. You just keep going.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Forward, just forward.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Sometimes you don't know what five steps looks in front
of you looks like, but if you take one step
and then another one, eventually you make progress. So that
was a long complicated answer, No, it was, it was it,
but spend enough time with yourself. Ask yourself real questions,
Be honest with yourself. What moves you, what makes you happy?
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What what makes you feel like you have something to offer?
Speaker 2 (19:10):
What scares you the most? Are you like things that
scare you? No? No, I don't.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Which is my dad told me this? He was like,
he was, I was. I was like, Dad, I don't
know if what I am envisioned for myself is where
I want to go anymore.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
He's like, well, what's the thing that scares you the most?
And what is it? Why was trying to make me
give up my goods? You just make me tell a story.
I'm I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
I have.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
I haven't figured that out. What scares you?
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yeah, like the most? Like I haven't. I don't know
if I buy that. I haven't figured that out. I'm
curious to see where that lands. I think he was
just trying to get me to start opening up.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Because I'm a planner. I'm a very logical thinker.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
So if you present something to me, I'm like, oh,
are you like somebody who's like Bray I want to
be on air personality?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
I'm like, Okay, well did you do this? This and this?
Speaker 3 (19:57):
I start going down the logical and I sometimes wish
I was more artsy, Yes, free free, yes, free falling
Because I look at somebody else, like a Doja cat
or something, I'm like, Wow, that seems so.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Fulfilling, and you just want to be creative. Yes, but
my brain just doesn't operate in that manner.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
See, but what you're doing right now, that is actually
the process. Like what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Right now, even though you don't have the ant, you
just did in real time what I was explaining, Like
you just witnessed it happening. That's her figuring out peace
by piece and so you don't have to have it
all figured out today. But you know you like the
feeling of feeling free and creative. You know you're good
at being logical and logistic and all those things. So
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just keep doing things that fills those buckets, even if
it's not the perfect thing yet. Like, that's exactly what
I'm saying, is it that you have to do? You're
not going to figure it out right now, And honestly,
if you did figure it out this week, but in
six months, it could shift and you could be like
I figured out because I like this and I did it,
and then I did six months and I'm like, yeah,
I don't this is not working for me, or I'm
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not making enough money, or my priorities have changed, or
my lifestyle has changed, or whatever things change. Life pivots,
and so the key is to keep asking yourself those
real questions and then to keep going in the direction
to the answers of those real questions, and then you
do that for the rest of your life.
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Speaker 2 (23:06):
It's like my whole career, by the way, I didn't
I wasn't like I want to be on the radio,
or I want to be a rapper.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Oh I want to be an artist, or I want
to be a podcaster, or I want to be a
I want to write a book. I never thought any
of that. It was like, I love hip hop music.
I love music. And then I got an internship with
the radio station. I was like, this is really cool.
How do I learn How can I run those boards?
How can I learn that? And then I did that,
and then opportunity opened up itself for me, just chasing
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and surrounding myself around the things I like to do.
And then that opened up and I'm like, oh, wait,
I could be on the air. Okay, let me try that.
Oh I could interview people, Let's try that. And so
it's just keep climbing in the direction that feels good,
keep looking for things that make you feel fulfilled, and
then keep taking steps forward in that direction.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
And then one day you wake up and you're.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Like, oh shit, I took all those steps this year,
and I made a little and I made a little progress.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
I mean, some people are lucky. Some people are kids
and they know I want to play piano.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
I wish.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
I'm just saying some people, as kids, they know their
whole life. For most people, it doesn't work that way.
Those are you know, there's prodigies that know. Okay, Derek
Jeter knew he wanted to play baseball his whole life,
and then he did and he was in the Hall
of Fame. Okay, great, But I'm just saying most people
don't operate that way. Like most people, you have to
find it and then you find it and it shifts
and it pivots, and so it's being in touch with yourself,
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asking yourself with the questions and then keep taking steps
in that direction. So I hope that helps. Thank you
for your voice. No, I know that was a really
long answer, Farrence, so long, but keep them coming. Go
to the Edge Martinez irl podcast page to do that.
And if you've missed any of the episodes. You can
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They're all there.
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Doji Cat is there, Sherry Shepherd is there, Cardi B
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Leslie Jones.
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What's up, guys, we are back.
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This is an Edge Martinez IRL Weekly episode.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I'm sitting here with my producer, Brittany Orti.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
We are going through some of the things that happened
this week on the show.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Sherry Shepherd episode just drops.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Sherry is great, right, Yeah, you know when she's on
the show, she's always like, I don't know when anybody
has to be like the life of the party all
the time, I almost feel bad for them, Like I'm
almost like it's okay, like we could just chill. You
don't have to like make me laugh or you don't
have to make me smile. Like I feel like Sherry
walks around.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
It's almost like a burden in a wheel.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Not in a bad way, it's a burden she carries
wildly and well, like she wants everybody in a room
to feel happy, smiling, laughing.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
That would be exhausting to me, even what I expect.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I mean, I'm on the rebend on the radio for
mad years. I always feel like I want to give
people good energy. But the idea of having to make
people like laugh or I don't know, just enlightened, joyous,
all the time every day that talk show. Life is
different and also she's not. She doesn't have a perfect life,
Like she has challenges in her life. She's been through
(01:20):
two very difficult divorces. You know, her son has is
on the spectrum, and she talks about the beauty of that,
but also the challenges of that. Yeah, just like I
think it was it was nice to get to know
her a little bit in a different way.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
My favorite, my favorite thing from her was when she's
talking about friendship and like the importance of female women womanhood.
This keeps coming up a lot, like it's a topic
that's really important to me. Actually, yeah, cause building your tribe.
Like I'm in a phase right now where I'm like, okay,
let me hone in a little bit on like, yeah,
who is my group of girlfriends? When Sha was talking
(01:56):
about I'm buying a place in Italy with my girlfriend
and when we go to dinner we all put our
cards down, I'm like, that sounds great.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Where they at? Where I'm friends at? Can you bring
those friends to the God.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
She's also at a different place in her life than
you are. That's true, and probably some of your friends
are still trying to find their way. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
but yes, that is a nice thing. I do have
that with my friends too, even friends that, like, you know,
I have friends that do really well, like better than me,
you know what I mean. I have like friends even
like Mary. Coming up, Mary was more advanced in terms
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of what she was making money wise, and we would
all go to dinner and she always was like, I
got dinner. I got dinner, I got dinner. But then
it became like, you don't have to you don't have
to do that, like, but she's always taken back when
we do it.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
We're like, nah, I got dinner. No, I got it.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
And now we kind of just all put our now
at this point, at our big ages, now we all
just put our cards on the table and every like
why should one person have always It's nice to do
it sometimes with your friends, but like, yeah, we don't.
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You know what's a faux pa?
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And my friend group is like if this is always
a high topic of discussion. If we all go to
dinner whatever, it's like four or five people, and like
one person doesn't eat or drink as many things, but
they want to count the bill.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah, yeah, well that's tricky when you're counting your money
to make sure you have enough for rent. It.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
I so I do understand it.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
If you're like, if you have a budget to spend
this much so you can make your monthly bills and
you go out with your friends and lem me just
wanted six.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Shots and you're like, that's not in my budget.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I do understand that you got to tell somebody that
before it come out.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah, don't come outside then, right, or.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Tell when you get invited to be like yo, I
can't do it, and then wait for somebody else to offer,
like because I'm the type of friend like yo, tell me,
tell me on the side of the group chat like.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yo, brit like it ain't looking cute right now. I'm like, word,
don't even say nothing. I got it, Like, yeah, you
don't like to be surprised.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
No, you showed up in your good outfit and now
it's like I just had a water though in a salad.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Huh, you got a big salad and for my fries.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I mean, you know. So I'm still looking more of
the story there is. I'm still figuring out hmm at.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Your friend group speaker than that though, because them girlfriends
man like Sherry was saying, it's like those moments. So
she talks about getting served after her I could see
that darkness for her after her divorce and having to
go on stage and she just lost it, crying and
her friend being able to be there and holding her
it really be your girls, and I'll tell you something
like recently, I'm at some point I should probably share
(05:26):
it on the pod. I've been dealing with some stuff
in my life and one of my girlfriends said to me,
shout out to Mary Floyd, love you to death. She
was like, you know, it's okay to lean into your
support system, which.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Sounds so that's hard for a hyper independent way, but
it sounds very you know, like a simple thing of advice.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
But the truth is is like I don't often think
like that because I'm a like you said, independent, I've
always taking care of myself. I always so, and I
don't ask for a lot from people. So the giving
myself the grace to be like, yeah, no I need.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
You to do that for me. Yeah, can you do that?
Can you do it for one more day? Can you
do this?
Speaker 3 (06:02):
And then remember when CARTI was on and she was like,
she was like, I'm not the type of person that.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Likes to ask people for any single thing.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
She said, I'd rather sleep on the train than ask
anybody for anything.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Like That's how deep it goes. I feel her on that.
I do feel her on that.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
But sometimes especially when you're in a in something like
if you're the person who's always in something, then that
could be tricky because because your friends don't want the
burden of you. But if you're like somebody who doesn't
usually ask for much, give yourself a little grace when
you're in the middle of a storm or something where
you need people to you need the support team, the
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people you've poured into to be able to be there
for you in that time. I think, I don't know.
For me, that's an important thing for me to remind myself.
And I have been really good at my friendships over
the years. I've picked great friends, I've chosen well. I
haven't had my friends surprise me in many ways, haven't
you know what I mean? Like, I've chosen well and
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and so I have that, so why not.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Use it when you need it. It's like it's like insurance.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
It's like it's also a good way to test out
to refine your friend group because then if you're not
a person that you know asks a lot and then
you finally you pull that card out, that get out
of jail free card, and then someone asks funny, it's like, oh, well,
maybe you needed to kick the curb.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah, exactly, exactly. So it's also good for that. I
feel that we've had some good episodes.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
We just had Doja Cat also Dojah.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
She's she's like, I can't explain it. She's just just
like little artsy, unique.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Little unicorn, right, Like, she's like her own person, very different,
very kind of comfortable in her quirkiness in a weird way.
Which I love that because that those are fun people
to kind of get to know. So I love that episode.
You guys could check that out. That was right before Sherry.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yeah, do you have a favorite Dojah moment?
Speaker 1 (08:02):
You know what I liked when she was talking about
Sissa and and and not just Sissa but Lady Gaga.
It's just she's such an artist and she so deeply
appreciated them. It was cute to see that she was
getting wateryied talking about Sissa. But then also when she
was talking about Lady Gaga, she was like, it's not
about her even as an artist, because you can look
at Dojacat and go, oh, she's make sense, influenced by
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Lady Gaga, clearly, but she's like, it's not her music,
it's not her art.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
It's like the way she treats her fans. The way
she treats her how gracious she is.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
So she's like that is like inspiring to me, Like
I wish to kind of live up to that level
of like just graciousness or whatever. And so I thought,
I don't know, I thought that was really telling about
the person she is. She's trying to be, the person
she is and the person she's trying to be, which anyway,
it was a few great moments.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Well the person she's bouncing off of that.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
You know, she's trying to be gracious to her friends,
and she talks about that viral moment that happened with
when the guy.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
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Speaker 3 (09:10):
I think a lot of times, like you know, celebrities whatever,
are like hyper.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Criticized on the internet.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
I think she actually handled that situation with a lot
of grace and a lot of she took a lot
of accountability, like in that you mean in an interview, Yeah,
that's a conversation.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yeah, she took a lot.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Of accountability, which I don't think people because because then
after you say, yo, my bad, I fucked up. This
is how I feel about it? Then what But she
didn't really say that it yeah, but she said it halfway.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
She was like, she was halfway. But she's also like,
but I don't want to expect more. So she's like, also,
I don't want to perform for you and be like
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Will you forgive me?
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Because a lot of times when people are looking to
get back in your good graces, it does become performative.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
It does become like remember the times when people would
would have their written thing and they turn on the
camera and get in front of the thing and be like, yeah,
I just want to say that I am so deeply.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Sorry, I'm court by my actions and I never blah
blah blah blah blah. I don't see Doja ever doing
something like that. And so I think she knows that
she didn't love that moment for herself. She didn't love
maybe how she handled that, and she definitely expressed that
in the conversation. But she was also like, but what
I'm not going to do is be out here and
performing begging you guys to still like me.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
It is what it is. It was an apology enough
for me.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
You just liked it is my type, my type of apology,
like I, yeah, maybe I might I might have been,
but also relax on me because this is what I was,
this is how I was experienced.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, Yes, that shit happens. But I
like the idea.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
I like the idea of even if you don't handle
something in the most perfect way, it's like not not
necessarily being apologetic fully, like not necessarily feeling the need
to make everybody still like you. Like you could feel apologetic,
but you could also not feel the need to overly
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Speaker 2 (11:15):
Then it's a fine line. Then it comes off fake.
It's performative.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah, it's like you're doing it because you want them
to perceive you in a way versus how I really feel, like, yeah,
I was kind of whack.
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I'm trying to be better to me.
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That's that's good, right, that's good with me, Like, say,
good for you, right, I don't need you to be
like yeah, you know, I really deeply from my heart,
I didn't. I don't want ever people to think I'm
you know that to me is like I mean, for everybody,
it's different. But I appreciate the honesty and how she
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Obsessed with her.
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What's up, Angie? You've built such a respective voice in
this industry by being real, grounded and true to yourself,
and I love you for that. What advice would you
give someone like me who's still finding their voice trying
to build a career that feels authentic but also powerful
like yours.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Oh my god, that's a loaded question. It's hard. It's
like a lifelong thing trying to figure that out.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
It's a whole lifelong thing. Because here's the thing, figure
out what works for you right now. It's good to
have tenure plans and lifelong plans and all that, and
you should have those plans, but you should also get
to know yourself who you are right now, what feels good,
what motivates you. And it's a lot to do a
gut to finding your path and trust if you love
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doing something, do that and keep going in that direction,
even if you don't know where it lands on the
other side, and you keep going and then you find
ways to kind of explore whatever that thing is. And
I know it's complicated for some people because some people
have bills to pay and they're like, Okay, that sounds great,
but I also have a day job. You can still
have your day job. You can still have your day
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job and find something that you're passionate about. And if
you give it two hours a day, if you give
it three hours a day, if you give it all weekend,
and then when you after your day job, like, you
can serve a drive, a passion, and so I say,
you just go. It's always like one step in front
of the other. And honestly, that shit changes all the time.
You can have a dream, think you figured it out,
(16:42):
and then three years later you're like, yeah, you know what,
this don't really work for me anymore, and now you
got to pivot.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
And that has happened to me plenty of times. I'll
start something, I'd be like, I don't love this, but
I did this.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Learn this from Oprah that you should you should finish
what you start, because sometimes you get a little put
like and I have to get better, like even I
have to check myself on that because sometimes I start
things and I'm like, oh, it didn't really come out
like I liked, so and then i'm creative, so I'm
ready to move on to the next thing. But it's like, no,
try something, finish it, move, keep moving, keep moving forward,
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doing things that feel good in your soul, and it'll
come to you it. Plans will come to you, ideas
will come to you, opportunities will come to you, and
then you can follow.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Them as you go. And does that make sense?
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
The last weekly when we talked about us shooting the
short film, we got back our first edit and it's
not what you've pictured in your head.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
You want to tell them what it was. Okay, that's fine.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I just shot a short film that I wrote and
directed and I got the first pass back and I'm like,
oh God, this doesn't look like it looked in my head.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
What do I gotta do now?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
And So, because I have podcasts, a radio show, I
have a whole bunch of other things going on, it's
kind of been sitting for a week, but I refuse,
so like, all next week I'm gonna be working on
it because I do believe in the story and I
do believe in all the people that help me make
that happen, and I.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Do want to the goal always, and this happens too.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
It's like you have to remind yourself of your goals
because you can forget them. The goal always was for me,
as I had something on my bucket list, was to write,
create direct something all the way through. So I don't
finish it, then I sell myself short. I I didn't
even do that, so I have to finish it. And
then also, if I'm being honest, no matter how it
ends up, no matter how it comes up, if I
could get it to look like I want it, or
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if I don't, I still learn so much in the process.
So then there's so I take that experience and that
helps me build on the next experience, and it keeps
me going in the direction chasing something that I'm actually
falling in love with doing. So your hip bomps on
the road. Shit won't always go right. You just keep going.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Forward, just forward.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Sometimes you don't know what five steps looks in front
of you looks like, but if you take one step
and then another one, eventually you make progress. So that
was a long complicated answer, No, it was, it was it,
but spend enough time with yourself. Ask yourself real questions,
Be honest with yourself. What moves you, what makes you happy?
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What what makes you feel like you have something to offer?
Speaker 2 (19:10):
What scares you the most? Are you like things that
scare you? No? No, I don't.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Which is my dad told me this? He was like,
he was, I was. I was like, Dad, I don't
know if what I am envisioned for myself is where
I want to go anymore.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
He's like, well, what's the thing that scares you the most?
And what is it? Why was trying to make me
give up my goods? You just make me tell a story.
I'm I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
I have.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
I haven't figured that out. What scares you?
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yeah, like the most? Like I haven't. I don't know
if I buy that. I haven't figured that out. I'm
curious to see where that lands. I think he was
just trying to get me to start opening up.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Because I'm a planner. I'm a very logical thinker.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
So if you present something to me, I'm like, oh,
are you like somebody who's like Bray I want to
be on air personality?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
I'm like, Okay, well did you do this? This and this?
Speaker 3 (19:57):
I start going down the logical and I sometimes wish
I was more artsy, Yes, free free, yes, free falling
Because I look at somebody else, like a Doja cat
or something, I'm like, Wow, that seems so.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Fulfilling, and you just want to be creative. Yes, but
my brain just doesn't operate in that manner.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
See, but what you're doing right now, that is actually
the process. Like what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Right now, even though you don't have the ant, you
just did in real time what I was explaining, Like
you just witnessed it happening. That's her figuring out peace
by piece and so you don't have to have it
all figured out today. But you know you like the
feeling of feeling free and creative. You know you're good
at being logical and logistic and all those things. So
(20:43):
just keep doing things that fills those buckets, even if
it's not the perfect thing yet. Like, that's exactly what
I'm saying, is it that you have to do? You're
not going to figure it out right now, And honestly,
if you did figure it out this week, but in
six months, it could shift and you could be like
I figured out because I like this and I did it,
and then I did six months and I'm like, yeah,
I don't this is not working for me, or I'm
(21:05):
not making enough money, or my priorities have changed, or
my lifestyle has changed, or whatever things change. Life pivots,
and so the key is to keep asking yourself those
real questions and then to keep going in the direction
to the answers of those real questions, and then you
do that for the rest of your life.
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Speaker 2 (23:06):
It's like my whole career, by the way, I didn't
I wasn't like I want to be on the radio,
or I want to be a rapper.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Oh I want to be an artist, or I want
to be a podcaster, or I want to be a
I want to write a book. I never thought any
of that. It was like, I love hip hop music.
I love music. And then I got an internship with
the radio station. I was like, this is really cool.
How do I learn How can I run those boards?
How can I learn that? And then I did that,
and then opportunity opened up itself for me, just chasing
(23:31):
and surrounding myself around the things I like to do.
And then that opened up and I'm like, oh, wait,
I could be on the air. Okay, let me try that.
Oh I could interview people, Let's try that. And so
it's just keep climbing in the direction that feels good,
keep looking for things that make you feel fulfilled, and
then keep taking steps forward in that direction.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
And then one day you wake up and you're.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Like, oh shit, I took all those steps this year,
and I made a little and I made a little progress.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
I mean, some people are lucky. Some people are kids
and they know I want to play piano.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
I wish.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
I'm just saying some people, as kids, they know their
whole life. For most people, it doesn't work that way.
Those are you know, there's prodigies that know. Okay, Derek
Jeter knew he wanted to play baseball his whole life,
and then he did and he was in the Hall
of Fame. Okay, great, But I'm just saying most people
don't operate that way. Like most people, you have to
find it and then you find it and it shifts
and it pivots, and so it's being in touch with yourself,
(24:26):
asking yourself with the questions and then keep taking steps
in that direction. So I hope that helps. Thank you
for your voice. No, I know that was a really
long answer, Farrence, so long, but keep them coming. Go
to the Edge Martinez irl podcast page to do that.
And if you've missed any of the episodes. You can
catch them.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
They're all there.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Doji Cat is there, Sherry Shepherd is there, Cardi B
is there? So many Yeah, and next week we have
Leslie Jones.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
I'm excited about that. Great anyway, thanks for watching, guys.
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