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July 12, 2019 18 mins

George Noory and astrologer Mitchell Scott Lewis discuss his predictions for world events, the economy and the stock market, all based on his readings of astral charts.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on
iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast. Let's talk
about Mitchell. Scott lewis our special guest here. He has
been a professional astrologer in the Big Apple, New York
City for more than two decades, specializing in financial astrology
and medical chart interpretation. Now Throughout the nineties, he worked

(00:22):
on the floor of the New York Merk until Exchange
and became well known as an astrological trader and market analyst,
and as a result, is international astrology. Clientele include leading
financiers as well as health professionals, renowned entertainment industry figures,
people from all walks of life, and he has accurately
predicted a number of world events. His website all linked

(00:45):
up at Coast to Coast am dot com. Mitchell, welcome back,
my friend. How are you good, George? How nice to
be back again. What a time to be an astrologer?
My gosh, what is happening to the planet these days? Mitchell? Well,
everything seems up and down. Well, I tell you I
have a couple of friends in New Orleans and they

(01:05):
have all gone the last two days and said, what
should we do. We're in between several eclipses, which you
may have heard of, and the eclipses are they're unpredictable,
a word astrologers don't particularly like, but they they're extremely stressful.
And with a retrograde mercury going on now as well,

(01:29):
New Orleans, you know, I'm basically what I told them
is get out of town quick. Yeah, going north, stay
in a hotel for two days. If you don't get
flooded out, thank god, you go back home. If you do,
you know you'll be happy that you're safe. Very difficult
times since Hurricane Katrina. They think they have been able
to shore things up, but if those things go again,

(01:50):
we're going to lose that city. Now. You know, we're
seeing wildfires and earthquakes, and the earthquake recently in California.
Needless to say, frightened all of you out there. I
can't blame you at all. It's a very explosive period. Look,
you know, George, last time I was on the show,
I talked about twenty twenty. Yeah, so you are a

(02:12):
little concerned about twenty twenty. Yeah, I'm still very concerned,
all right. Look, twenty twenty is a time of great stress,
but it's also a potential time for great change. And
one of the things that I'd like to get across
today to your listeners is that, well, there's two things.
One is under periods of great stress. If you give

(02:34):
into it, you lose. If you hold yourself together. The
French philosopher Voltaire once said God is a comedian playing
to an audience that's afraid to laugh. I always loved
that quote, and it's so true. If we keep our
sense of humor, if we can keep our sense of
connection and of sharing and of being together, we can

(02:57):
survive anything. And this period is going to be very
stressful because we're getting a huge build up of planets
in the sign of Capricorn. A Capricorn rules stability, structure,
It rules the outside of the house, it rules the land,
it rules banking. And we're going to have Pluto, Saturn, Jupiter,

(03:20):
Mars all conjunct in Capricorn, and America's going through what's
called it's Pluto return. Takes about two hundred and forty
years with Pluto go around the zodiac, so you and
I will never see it unless we're very unlucky. But planets,
I mean the countries and even corporations will see their
Pluto return if they last long enough, tremendous change. What

(03:43):
Pluto rules in the body is the elimination of waste.
It rules all the parts of the body that remove waste,
the erythra, the colon, even the sweat glands, even the
tear ducts. Anyway that we remove waste in the body,
that's Pluto. So we're going through our Pluto return learn
and anything that isn't working in our culture is going

(04:04):
to be looked at and hopefully changed, and we can
get rid of some things that have been holding us
back as a species, and especially America as a country.
You know, we've reached this incredible place of tension. We're
like a married couple that scream across the kitchen table

(04:25):
at each other because they don't listen any longer. My
hope is that this period is going to shake that loose. Now.
I am a nature an optimist, you know, I'm an astrologer,
so I'm supposed to scare the hell out of people. Now.
When you talked about stress in twenty twenty, not only
can it be emotional stress, but it could be planetary
stress like these earthquakes it's going to be planetary and

(04:47):
it's going to be financial, and I would like to
get into both of those topics. In terms of the planet, yeah,
there's no question about it. And we were seeing it
all over the place. It's been building up for the
last few years. Hurricanes, wildfires, droughts. Things are changing. We
need to adjust accordingly, and we're a pretty smart species,

(05:09):
so we can figure things out. I am a little concerned,
mostly for California. I happen to love California whenever I
can get out there. It's one of my favorite places
in the world. From New York, yeah all the way. Well,
they have a new invention that's called an aeroplane. Yeah,

(05:30):
so all of that's going to be coming on. Also,
just to give your listeners the astrology of it's the
planet Uranus, which rules erratic change, unpredictability, is in the
sign of Taurus, also an Earth sign like Capricorn. So
when when Uranus goes through Taurus, the last time that
it went through Taurus, we had the Great Depression, we

(05:51):
had the dust bowls of the Midwest, and it's conceivable
that something like that, that sort of a pattern could
occur again. Certainly we're praying it doesn't. But we need
to be psychologically prepared for whatever comes up. And since
we have no control over that, or we have control
over is our own lives and our relationships, I bring

(06:14):
it down to the personal whenever possible. That brings me
to the stock market, which is still booming right now. Absolutely,
And you know what happens before every crash, It goes up.
That's right. Well, what's the old saying, niche what goes up?
You're George? Absolutely, and this is my concern. I've been

(06:36):
doing a series of lectures on the East Coast and
I'll make it out to the West, I hope by
the end of the year. But I was in Philadelphia
and New York and going to Boston, Connecticut, you know
of Baltimore, And I'm doing a lecture on the stock market,
which is one of my favorite topics because I spend
so much time down on Wall Street. And right now,

(06:57):
the stock market is a debt fuel bubble, and just
like the dot com bubble and the mortgage bubble, it
will eventually pop and then what happens is panic selling
takes place and people get out at the worst possible time. Now,
this isn't just my opinion, some of the biggest hedge
fund people in the world. I've been saying, this is

(07:19):
one of them. One of my favorite ones recently did
an interview and when he was asked would he raise
interest rates, he said, I would sneak one in every
time financial conditions allowed, and hopefully by some point the
rates would be high enough that we'd have an appropriate
rate for investments where people won't do stupid things like

(07:40):
they have in the past. Interesting, yet now they're talking
about luring them again. Yeah, and it's you know, I mean,
the problem is deflation is what's happening, and it's blinding
the federal Reserve because they're not seeing other potential recession signals.

(08:01):
Corporate Look, this is what's happened. Corporate debt has ballooned
faster than corporate profits and interest costs. So for the
first time in history, we have massive deficit and full employment.
And as this one hedge fund, the guy wrote, God
help us if we get into recession, because we won't

(08:21):
have the tools to get out of it quickly, and
then it will linger for a long period of time.
I've been advising my clients for quite some time, especially
the older ones, take your money out of the stock
market if it goes up and you lose a little, Okay,
you know, you can't pick the top or the bottom
of a market. You try and get something out of

(08:42):
the middle. But if I'm right and the crash happens,
they'll get out and they'll lose a great deal of
their retirement funds. If you're thirty five years old, you
have money in the retirement fund, leave it. Stock market
always comes back if it doesn't get much bigger problem.
You can't lose what you don't sell. Yeah, right, But

(09:02):
if you're older, if you're fifty five, sixty, sixty five,
you know, seventy, and you might need that money in
the next few years, if you want to move, if
you have a health issue, whatever comes up. I would
protect those resources. And you know, and I get a
lot of calls about this, and that is pretty much
from advising, and we're trying to find places for people

(09:23):
to put their money where they can get some income,
passive income. There are some stocks that I think you
should hold on to. My mother. We've had eight T
and T in my family for two or three generations,
and my mother gets the dividends from it and I'm
very happy for it. Between that and the pension, the
social Security, she makes a living, she gets biocare. Yeah,

(09:45):
and she's getting quite old, but she's amazing. We just
she's in her nineties. We just extended the lease on her.
My mind, just turned ninety and drives herself as that great.
I mean, it isn't it isn't. It scares me a
little bit, me too. But you know what, for some reason,
I think it keeps them even younger than they are.
Oh my god, when my mother can't get out, that's

(10:07):
when she freaks out. Yep. When she can get out
and shop and do things. You know, she's old. But
I just tell my mom, do not drive in that
Detroit snow. Just let it melt, let the roads clear.
Don't try to be a hero. Absolutely well, we're in
the same position. Yeah, and my mom's even a few
years older than you us. And but you know, so

(10:30):
those kinds of dividend paying stocks, an AT and T
is relatively cheap. It trades between around twenty nine and
thirty three thirty four dollars to share. Most people don't
have enough money to buy Apple or Google or you know,
Priceline dot com, a thousand shares of Apple is one
hundred and eighty something thousand dollars. That's a lot of

(10:52):
money for It's a lot of money for a lot
of people, right. But if you have a stock that's
a little cheaper, you can buy a thousand shares and
you can get the divenend from it, that's not a
that investment. The bonds aren't paying very much right now
when you get about two percent two and a half percent,
and you know there's also an inversion in the bonds
that hasn't happened for some time, where the short term

(11:13):
bonds were paying a higher rate than the long term bonds,
and that's a historic indicator of a coming in recession.
Were you a investor and marketeer first or an astrologer?
For us, I was an astrologer since I was very young.
They brought me on the floor as an astrologer, not
as a financier. How did that tie in become a

(11:36):
reality because not many astrologers will go I'm going to be,
you know, a financial expert. It's interesting how that happened.
I was bartending. I'm also a musician, as you may know, right,
and a good one. Yeah, oh yeah, thank you. Very much.
I love I love music, probably more than anything else.
But you know, you get a little older, it's not
so much fun playing gigs until two a car And

(11:57):
exactly it doesn't pay all the bills either, to make
more money than a And I was downtown in the
Wall Street area in Battery Park City, and some of
my clients was commodities brokers, and they would bring in
the charts of the commodities and I would look them over,
and I had my ephemeris with me all the time,
and I started to see correlations. And a few of

(12:18):
them came to me and they said to me, cotton
is trading at a dollar seventeen a pound. Even in
the Civil War it never went above a dollar a pound.
What's going on? People are making or losing a fortune
every day. They can't get out of trade because it
goes limit lock. A commodity can only go in its
future is only a certain amount. Cotton can only move

(12:38):
three cents a day. But three cents in cotton is
fifteen hundred dollars per contract. So some people who were
short cotton, they're losing fifteen hundred dollars a day in
each contract they have. They have ten contracts at fifteen
thousand dollars a day. They're losing. So they brought me
on the floor and they said to me, can you
figure out when cotton's gonna crash? And that this is

(13:01):
going to be the shortest career and in the history
if I failed. So I did some very fast research
and I used my intuition and I decided that cotton
is ruled by the planet Venis. I grows in the ground,
it makes pretty things. Women like it. It's you know,
it's a feminine thing. And so I said, we have
a full moon coming in Libra. Libra's ruled by Venus.

(13:21):
And I took a chance. I said, well, you know what,
you got to be gutsy sometimes, I said, the top
of the cotton market is going to be Tuesday on
that Libra full moon. Now was this instinct that had
you do that? Well, it wasn't completely instinct, because once
they put me on the floor and they gave me
what's called an analyst badge, I could use the computers
and look at twenty years of the history of the

(13:44):
history of commodity. So I grabbed my ephemeris and I'm
looking at it and I'm going back and forth and again.
This was like a three day crash course, and I
had to be right and so but it was a
lot instincts to be perfectly honest with you, and I
just I was right. We come in on that day
and they only shorted a few lots. They were scared.

(14:05):
They didn't know me. I was an unknown entity. And
cotton opens up for the first time in weeks at unchanged.
It doesn't do anything. It goes up five ticks, it
comes down, goes down five ticks, it comes up. And
then right before lunch the phone start ringing off the
wall and it goes limit down, and I remember we're short,

(14:25):
we wanted to go down. It goes limit down for
the next eight days. Wow, we made a ton of money.
Then they're screaming, what about silverbout coffee, Deutsch marks everything.
So I started my career and I worked really, really
hard with one of my trading partners. We he used
to sit with the book of the commodity and I

(14:47):
would sit with the ephemerius and I would tell him historically,
when the top and the bottom of the market was now,
did your astrological knowledge back up the trends that you
saw in the marketplace completely completely. That's why I was
able to ultimately I saw the end of the dot
com bubble come because the planets were leaving signs and

(15:12):
going to another sign. Give you a perfect example, in
two thousand and five, I'm doing some lectures and I'm
on some local TV and I see that Saturn is
about to leave the sign of cancer. Saturn rules the
housing market, Cancer rules the inside of the home. And
then after it leaves, that sign is going to have

(15:33):
a negative aspect to the planet Neptune, which causes confusion,
dissolves things. I said, this is the top of the
housing market, this is the very top of it. And
if you look back in July two thousand and five,
the same month that Saturn left Cancer, that was the
top of the housing market started to go down rapidly.

(15:55):
And when it came to Neptune, that's when the crash happened.
And then it was followed by the stock market. Should
happen also under a Saturn aspect. Now in November of
twenty twenty, with the presidential election, if the economy is booming,
it's going to help the incumbent Donald Trump. Absolutely. If
it's not, it's going to hurt him any ideas Well,
I'll tell you something funny. I think, no matter who

(16:18):
gets elected, the stock market crash is going to occur
right after inauguration, right after. Okay, what about before? Well,
I think that these that this market is being manipulated.
I think the stock market is always manipulation, and it's
on and I think that they're going to try very
hard to keep it puffed up, propped up. Yeah. You know,

(16:43):
a lot of people like mister Trump's policies and especially
his financial approach, so a lot of people are kind
of rooting that this will continue. But some of the
some of the weak spots are starting to show already,
and I'm inclined to think that before the election, we

(17:05):
might see not a crash, but we might start to
see a bear market. I thought we were going to
see it last December. It stayed strong. Yeah, Well, they
puffed it right back up again, and they're doing it.
Of course, that's why they're going to lower interest rates.
The big fear here is regardless of the politics of it. Okay,

(17:27):
the fear here is that if they continue to manipulate
the markets in order to puff them up, eventually, what
will happen is that the crash will be untenable. They
won't be able to fix it. Well, to be worse
than two thousand and eight. There's a good chance that
it will be. Oh my gosh. Why this is what

(17:49):
bothers me. It's it scares me because I don't want
to see people go through this again. It was horrible
for people, and a lot of people still haven't recovered. No,
that's that's absolutely true. Listen to more Coast to Coast
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