Dreams - Best of Coast to Coast AM - 5/6/22

George Noory and dream interpreter Robert Moss discuss his work helping people find the hidden messages in their dreams, and whether it's possible to visit other dimensions or even time travel while you are sleeping.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on
iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nory
back with Robert Moss as we talk about dreams and
dreams interpretation. We'll take your calls with the Robert next
hour here on Coast to Coast. Robert, when you were
talking about how precognitive dreams saved your life from several accidents,
I think it's one of the greatest tools available to us,

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isn't it. Well, we do have this intuitive radar, George,
and it tends to come most alive in dreams when
we drop our left brain inhibitions and stop asking ourselves
whether this is for real, and we just have the experience.
And I think it's actually going on everybody every night.
I think you see some elements in the future. Now,

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your memory might be missing altogether, or it might be
confused or fragmentary, so you might have to take a
look at the dream. One of the things I teach
people to do is see if you can take more
of a look at what was going on inside of
the dream, get your head back in in a sense,
and get the information more clear, and then see how
you apply to do better. Let me give you a
tiny story if I may sah. I like stories about

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seeing the pup. So I dream one one morning that
I'm watching a silly dog with fake antlers for some
Christmas pageant. He runs out on the road. He's killed
by a car, Poor Doggie. He's magically revived by bizarre
character who doesn't conform to normal human behavior. Well, this
is my dream. I write it down. It's my practice.
I run to the airport early to get a plane.

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I missed my flight. Him on the wrong plane. I'm
making interesting connection with someone on the wrong plane. But
then she's looking at my new book, so I can't
talk with her. And I look up at the screen.
It's to the middle of the aisle on that plane,
and there is a silly dog in fake antlers, dressed
up for some pageant, who's killed on the road, poor Doggie,
and revived by bizarre character the archangel Michael, portrayed by

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Chun Travalta in the old Very Funny movie Michael. Now,
I like stories like this because they show you. They
make you sick. If you can dream something as trivial
as the in flight movie on the wrong plane ahead
of time, maybe you can dream all sorts of other stuff,
And in fact you can. As one of the things
I teach people is it's not weird to think that
you have our own precognitive dreamer. But as I said earlier,

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the really interesting thing is that once you satisfy yourself,
it's require some practice writing down your dreams and seeing
what follows the dream and whether it's a subsequent event
matches the dream. Once you satisfy yourself that you can
see the future in this way, then you could say
to yourself, well, maybe what I'm seeing is not an
inevitable future, it's a possible future, and then I can

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take action to move towards a happy outcome or avoid
an unhappy one. That's the point of power. That's the
point of power with this dreaming across time. I think,
by the way, that in our dreams we also visit
parallel universe. As you know, you've probably discussed on the
show Many Worlds hypothesis in physics, which says, right now,
while you and I are talking in another reality close

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to us, we're not on this show together. In another
reality a bit further away, you're not doing this show,
and I'm not writing about dreams, we're doing something else.
We live in uncountable parallel universes. How would you know
about that first hand? How would you figure out some
way to apply information from that conception of reality to
your life? Well, in dreams, George, one of the things

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going on if you track your dreams over time is
you get to recognize that some of those recurring dreams
and not just the same same O dream coming again.
That happens, and there are reasons for that. But there's
a serial dream like a long playing TV series, missing
installments here and there. Well, you might find that you
are living a continuous life somewhere else for real. You

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could document this for yourself in your own journal if
you take up that practice, And George, this is a
way of gaining first hand information state specific science, in
other words, scientific information that is adapted to the circumstances
of the situation. And it's your way of understanding the
greater reality in which you're living in the multidimensional universe

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of many will to find out for yourself. It's all
over our popular culture. It's all over TV, it's all
over movies, it's all over sci fi fictions. You have
the ability to access these realities for yourself and make
up your own mind about what's going on. And if
you wake up to the fact that maybe you have
a doppelganger doing something a bit different to make different choices,
who did or did not get married to that person,

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did or not take up that line of work, maybe
you'll discoveries you go along. You can actually do something
that will benefit both of you. You can borrow lessons
and gifts from each other. These are the things that
I teach and practice. So in this sense, dreaming is
taking us right to the understanding of the larger reality.
You're one of the few people, Robert, who really gets

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deja vu, which I've always believed as a machine of
parallel universes. Yes, yes, I I delayed seeing it. I
just saw a matrix or matrix resurrections. You've probably seen
it too, And this time there is a cat. The
black cat that appears twice in the original matrix scene
is called deja Vu and has a dish with his

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name on it, Desavou. So the point is being made
that you see an anomaly, you see a glitch in
the matrix, as they taught to call us in the
thoughts call in that movie, and you notice that the
universe is not what you think it is. Maybe you're
living in a simulation. Maybe you're living in one as
many parallel universes. Maybe someone's changing the code of your
computer simulation on you, or something is different. So desavo

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means already seen. It's French, of course, the British. British
psychic researchers borrowed it in the late Victorian era, and
it's stuck. It's often actually deja where they which means
already dreamed. You've dreamed something. You don't remember the dream.
But when is the wedging life catches up to the dream?
You recognize it. But more interestingly is what you've led
us into, which is maybe deja vu is a clue

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to the glips in the matrix. Maybe it's a clue
to the existence of parallel worlds. Maybe it's an occasion
on which your parallel self, in their parallel life is
rubbing up against you. You know that person, you know
that seen because you've got there before you got there,
because in another life very close to this one, but
not quite the same, you've got there ahead of your
moves in this present life. That becomes a very interesting

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thing to study. What do you think of time travel,
Robert in your dream state? I think we are all
time travelers in our dream stays. Of course, lots of
people are going through a protracted dream drought and have
no idea what's going on at all. I think we travel,
not as the future, to which we talked about a bit.
We travel to the past. We go back to scenes
from our earlier life, maybe because you know we've left

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something behind. Maybe our life changed, but part of us
didn't want to move along, and part of it is still,
in the sense, stuck in the old marriage, or the
old job, or something else, or stuck hiding in Grandma's
closet when life got tough and cruel. We travel to
past lives. We travel to the lives of our ancestors.
We travel into the situations of people connected to us
in the multidimensional universe. That I believe is what happened

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to me as I was mentioning when I moved to
a rural property in upstate New York, I believe I
was drawn into a connection with a distant kinsman of
mine who came from Ireland to North American colonial times
and lived a life with the Mohawk Indians and became
quite important in his day. I believe that because I
moved into his landscape, so to speak, a connection was

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made across time with a distant ancestor of mine. I'm
not calling it reincarnation. I would just say there was
a strong affinity, a strong connection between us, and from
that connection that the Mohawk Indian influence came in because
he lived with them and they tried to influence him,
and that eventually became so important how to write three
novels about it, three historical novels, study the Mohawk language,

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and eventually changed my life. So I do believe from
my own experience and observation that our dramas of our
present lives are connected with dramas of other personalities and
other times I'm not going to I'm a bit of
an agnostic about reincarnation is not necessarily about popping from
one body to another, although that, sir, there's another name
for that. But I do think we are part, each

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one of us, of a multidimensional family of personalities, and
that what's going on, for example, in Scotland and the
year six hundred, the Scotland and my biological ancestors that also,
maybe the Scotland of my spiritual connection is relevant to
me now, just as that life in the eighteenth century
in the mobil value is relevant to me now. And
I think it's probably true for all of us, though
most of us may never wake up to it until

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we get out of this life into another life. Let
me say briefly, George, you want to know what happens
after death. Your best way of finding out is through dreams.
Dreams take you, You may not realize that into situations
you will encounter when your physical life is over. They
will also confirm if you pay attention, they will confirm
the idea that consciousness is not restricted to the body,

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survives the body, and they'll give you first hand evidence
of some of you that most of us would like
to know about what awaits us beyond this life. This
is one of the most important reasons for becoming a dreamer.
Dreaming is like dying, isn't it? Well in a way
to have a saying the path of this they say,
the path of the soul after death is the same

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as the path of the soul in dreams. In other words,
you're out of the body, you're beyond the body, you're
going into different landscapes, into different places, and some of
those landscapes in places maybe the ones that you will
inhabit after death. So you might that's one of the
reasons you might find that what you encounter after death
is familiar to you. You've been there already. You move

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amongst people who are dead in the physical sense, died
to this world as well as amongst others. So in
that sense, it might be like dying. You know, you
get deeper up into the stuff. George, and you might say,
as I sometimes say to startle people a week, I
will sometimes say to people, you know you're in the
afterlife right now. You came into this body from another life.
I believe this to be the case. It's my observation

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and experience. And when you die to this life, you'll
be born somewhere else. So you're you're an interlife and
afterlife between other states of living, other states of reality.
You know, get worth it, don't get over it. Get
worth I mean to look at this, and you want
to know you want firsthand information on this kind of stuff.
You don't it does take it from me or from
any other hand me down source. You want to explore

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it for yourself. And that's what I teach people to
do peace and become travelers and explorers of these larger
realities through techniques which are simple that will actually awaken
you to the larger multiverse. Tell us about your active
dreaming courses. How does this work well? These days are
mostly online. I do a lot of them for the

(10:29):
Shift Network. They're quite popular. I do them at different levels,
I mean their entry level. We're about to do we're
launching one. There'll be a free there'll be free introductory
event on May supporteenth at the Shift Network. This one
is about time travel, about time travel and dream travel
and creating your helping to create your reality inside the
dream state. It will be very powerful and in the

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course of it, it means a lot of experiential stuff.
You'll learn how to jump inside a dream. You've you've
got a dream and you'd like to know more about it,
or maybe something is scaring your pants off in a
dream and you're ready to face that challenge and resolve it.
I'll teach you how you can step back through a
personal image from a dream and do sue do some good,
continue the adventures, solve the mystery brave up to the

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challenge and find your power. And we'll also talk about
interesting things. We'll talk about how time travel and dream
travel and parallel realities are in the popular culture. Now
we'll look at some of the films. I will talk
about famous figures like Tolkien and C. S. Lewis who
became dream travelers. I mean Tolkien and CS Lewis. Most
people who follow their work and love them and like

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the movies don't know how deep their practice became. They
became experimenters in a kind of lucid dreaming and what
Tolkien called dream inspection. So that's just the next course.
I mean, we do all sorts of things here. We
learn how images derive from dreams could help to heal
the body and can diagnose what's going on inside the body. Well, learn,
as I say, how the right kind of dream work

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can prepare you for life after death. And above all,
perhaps well learn how to tell our stories a lot
better so we can talk to each other a lot better,
so we can talk about things it might be hard
to talk about, because we have a method of discussing
things which is fun, it's fast, it's mutually empowering, and
it leads to some kind of action. Robert tell us
the story of Sigmund Freud. Something horrible happened to him.

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Oh yeah, it's a terrible story. I mean, I have
more sympathy for Freud than some people might think. But
let's just say. The most famous dream that he wrote
about was the Erma dream. He dreamed one of his
patients he wasn't doing well with there, and at some
point in his dream report, which kills twenty eight pages
of his famous book, The Interpretation of Dreams, he describes
some horrible looking scarring and and blight and pale patches

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inside her mouth. He writes like a dentist observing the
state of a horror carobot cavity. He writes twenty eight
pages about what the dream might mean, and he never
looks at the possibility that what he's looking at other
symptoms of an actual disease, and that although it seems
to the ibbea about his patient, it might act be
about him. Now the rains and tragic figures. Twenty eight

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years later, he developed cancer of the mouth. It killed him,
and he developed the exact symptoms he had described in
his dream report. In his book Interpretation of Dreams, The
details were reviewed by an Argentine oncologist who was also
a Freudian psychist. Psychiatrist caught those shovels on who wrote

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a book about this. He went to the Library of Congress,
as I recall an American archive anyway, or they able
to look at the X rays of the pictures, the
photographs of Freud's mouth. So here is a case of
a famous interpreter of dreams who missed a message that
perhaps could have saved his life had he realized that
the warning might be to stop chain smoking cigars all

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day long, because that's what killed him. So it's I mean,
I have no satisfaction in sharing the story. I feel
for Freud. Died horrible agony with a prose thesis which
is very painful to take in and out. But it
looks as if he missed long a long range diagnostic dream,
A pro dromic dream would be the correct term, a
dream showing many years in advance the symptoms he would develop.

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Every time you go for a teeth cleaning these days,
dentists check for oral cancer. That is correct, That is
absolutely correct. So he wouldn't have got away with it
perhaps today, I mean, or rather the early signs might
have been detected, but who knows who knows exactly when
the signs would could have been detected by a doctor
or dentist for that matter. I mean, I think our

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dreams actually show us, give us pictures as if we've
got a personal X ray and personal MRI thing going
on every night. I think they give us advanced information
about what's going on in the body before symptoms are presented.
That's why again, if you pay attention, you might find
that your dreams would enable you to head off medical
procedures and you might rather not have to undergo. Listen

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