December 19, 2019 • 16 mins
George Noory and intuitive and energy healer Lori Spagna discuss the near death experience that gave her increased psychic abilities, and how spiritually enlightened individuals can reach their psychic potential.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast am on
iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori
with you. Lorie Enspania, bestselling author, couple of her books
Learn Animal Communication and Telepathy. How psychic are you? Speaker,
spiritual teacher, ascension guide. We'll tell you about that. Multidimensional channel, intuitive,
(00:23):
animal communicator, energy healer. Let me take a breath. A
light worker, visionary and luminary who assists others to awaken
their own alignment with the true divine source which exists
within each and every being, so that all beings can
live their best life ever. Radically transformed after a very
series of near death experiences while living in Maui and Hawaii,
(00:47):
Laurie teaches about ascension and acts as a guide to
awakening spirituality, Minded animal lovers, light workers, star seeds and
way showers. Laurie, Welcome to the program. What a bio. Well,
Hello George, thank you so much for having me tonight.
I'm so glad to be here you too. And what
is a way shower? A way shower? Way showers, you know,
(01:09):
awakening beings who are all helping one another to pay
the way to a new paradigm, a new way of living,
a new way of being, and a whole a whole
new reality. Really, there are way showers. We're alway showers.
You're a way shower. Well, tell me about these near
death experiences. Well, what happened was I was living in
Maui and I was studying with a really what I
(01:31):
would call a true master. And this gentleman had lived
in the Himalayan mountains for most of his life, and
he actually has documented cases where he woke up in
a freezer in the morgue, like literally that kind of
and some of his proteges and students are already practicing
hell of transportation. A lot of that's already documented. But
(01:54):
I was studying with him, and he was essentially teaching
me how to still they so much that the consciousness
could continue to the consciousness, My consciousness would be able
to continue to be completely conscious while the physical reality
that I existed would drop out, and he was able
(02:15):
to hold. In one of the experiences with him, he
would do what was called a little death. He helped
me experience what was called a little death, which is
where he knew how to take the consciousness my consciousness,
the essence of who I am as an individualized being,
and hold it in sense so that the entire physical
(02:35):
reality that I lived and just dropped out was that dangerous.
Not for him, it wasn't. No, he was a real master.
It was incredible. And what happened was when he did that,
essentially I was in another totally different state of consciousness,
a whole different parents, a whole different frequency or dimensional reality,
(02:58):
so to speak. And it seems to me that maybe
five minutes passed by. I don't have this linear time,
but it was an hour that I was in the
room and there were people in the group, other students
around me. And what he did was he basically counted
the three. So that's it, it's time now. He counted
to three, he snapped his fingers and popped back into
(03:20):
my physical reality and my physical body. And I was
so full of like hysterical blissful laster because these frequencies
of the non physical realm are just so blissful and euphoric.
So everyone in the room, all of the other students,
all they needed to do basically was put their fingers
(03:40):
on me, and for another hour or more, everyone was
in their fetal position hysterical laughing, because this this frequency
of joy and bliss, it's so out of our earthly
experience it's almost impossible to contain it in the physical form.
Does that make sense now when we talk about ascension
(04:02):
and explain that a little bit, well. To me, ascension
is just the experience that we're all going through, which
is an evolutionary process where each individual is waking up
out of a reality where everything has been only physical
and anything else that wasn't physical didn't exist. We were
(04:25):
crazy and we didn't believe it. We're waking up out
of that reality, and we're actually passing through stages of
consciousness where we're expanding our consciousness and essentially elevating our
consciousness into a new paradigm or new reality, where we
recognize that actually the non physical is more real than
(04:46):
the physical, and we're essentially integrating that into our everyday
lives from a holy state of consciousness. To me, that's ascension.
Now for ascension, let's under standard because what is three D,
four D, five D, what is seven? Yeah? So three
D is the physical world we've been living in. That's
(05:07):
how I describe it. If you just think of three
D it's as simple as the three dimensions. The way
I describe it as light, various colors of light, gradients
of light, everything we see, sounds which is everything we hear,
and then space hype within depth, and that includes time.
(05:28):
Linear time is an essentially is a space a distance.
So that is the third dimensional paradigm, and that's where
we've all been living. And in that three D paradigm,
we're primarily operating from a left brain, and most of
everything we know and experience we're taught by some external
authority who tells us what's a belief. So when we
(05:50):
go through four D, we start connecting with a non
physical world. That's when we start getting in touch with
things like angels and loved ones who have crossed over
and ghosts. Is that real? We start making sense of
everything in the non physical world. We start opening up
to our true psychic abilities. We start accessing higher consciousness,
(06:11):
we start becoming more telepathic, we start becoming more empathic.
We're accessing this nonphysical world, which I refer to as
the fourth dimension. And by the way, that's really where
time exists because time is a construct of our consciousness.
Thoughts are in the fourth dimension emotions, beliefs. I mean,
(06:32):
those things are things, but they're not physical in a sense.
So as we start to integrate that into our reality,
that's as we really start becoming more conscious of all
that stuff. That's how we start leveling up into this
so called cist dimensional consciousness where we start recognizing like
(06:52):
everything is part of this one universal source. We start
shifting into universal consciousness, we start connecting with the unity consciousness,
and we start living from that new platform, that new
way of being. Are you able to move between these dimensions? Well,
this is the interesting thing because actually, in reality it's
(07:15):
within us. It's not like we're going anywhere. We don't
go anywhere. What we do is we're shifting our consciousness.
And the big thing is it's a vibrational shift. So
in three D our vibration, the energy that we have
is based typically in fear. It's like fear, worry, anxiety, frustration, doubt,
(07:37):
you know, sickness, stillness, depression, sadness. Those are the vibratory
states of the third dimensional consciousness. And we don't realize
it's all based in domination, you know, coersion, manipulation, are
those are aspects of our reality. But in fifth dimension.
We're elevating, we're clearing out. We're basically disentangling ourselves emotionally, mentally, physically,
(08:01):
energetically from all of that fear based reality. And as
we do so, we're elevating into a new peace, love,
joy based frequency and that becomes our guiding force. So
rather than just being in our left analytical brains from
the third dimensional paradigm, now we start shifting more heart
(08:23):
centered magnetism, the magnetism of peace and love and joy
that is a vibratory state in our heart center. Does
that make sense? Yeah, I'm with it. I'm with it.
We'll take calls with folks next hour. We'll see if
they make sense. Yeah, awesome. Love that. Now there's near
death experience that you had. Are you glad that you've
(08:48):
never had another one? Well, I want to say there's.
First of all, I want to say the way I
call it a near death experience, it's not it's not
like I was in a hospital so or you sit
by a car or something like that. It's not that form.
But it also was not what we might call astral travel.
A lot of people associated with astral travel. I wasn't
(09:09):
in my physical form, just sort of extending out beyond
physicality and traveling in a fourth dimensional realm. The reason
I refer to this as a near death experience is
because again in my consciousness, the physical reality completely dropped away,
and part of my experience was through practice on a
(09:31):
basically a daily basis. What I was doing was every
night after that master that I was working with his teaching.
For that, I had to work through the whole night
meditating without ever falling asleep, being able to completely still
myself while remaining entirely conscious. And so what that really
(09:54):
does is it transforms your experience. It's very easy actually
after office practice. It's not easy initially to completely leave
the physical form. It's possible. And the interesting thing was
what really opened all of the stuff was that at
the time I was living in Alley and I would
do it on my back porch a lot of times
(10:17):
drew the night and one of the nights when I
was on the back porch overlooking the golf courses two
o'clock in the morning, and I've made contact with you know,
like a ship. Was a light ship. I knew at
that time I had worked in the cable industry. I
knew what a satellite was I knew it wasn't a satellite,
(10:39):
and at that time, there was no airplane traffic at
two in the morning, so I was already doing telepesy.
I had already learned that, but I didn't know it
well enough that I knew nothing about ships. I knew
nothing about this is all pre twenty and twelve. I
knew nothing about extraterrestrials or Star family races. But I
(10:59):
just had this belief that they were here to help us,
like my own ignorance at that time, and I just
mentally said, telepathically, said like if I can do anything
to help on here, like it's just really kind of
clues about it. I was tele transported onto that shift.
That was what unlocked even more. Even more was awakened
(11:20):
from that point. So this is really where all this
stuff came from. It's not like I just you know,
overnight did this. It took It was over a period
of several years that this was all going on. And
you claimed that you were abducted. I wouldn't call it
an abduction. I wouldn't use that word because in my language,
if you say abduction, it means someone took you against
(11:42):
your free will. And caused to me, that's what that means, right,
It took you to another place right and did something
to you against your free will. To me, it was
I would call it a divine appointment with my star family.
I would call myself. I used the term braided Darcy.
Why you were you picked? Well, I don't think I'm alone.
(12:04):
I think there's lots of us here. I know there are,
So I would say more what it was was it
was a divine appointment. It was part of what I
call a sacred contract, essentially an agreement, a pre agreement,
almost like pre birth or pre incarnation, and that that
agreement was designed before I even incarnated. So even being
(12:28):
in MAUI was a divine appointment. I don't think of
it like an abduction. I think of it more like
a first contact. During any of this, LORI, did you
come across anything that you felt was kind of demonic
or evil? No, But I do remember, in the very
early days of waking up into my psychic gifts, I
(12:50):
do remember being approached by beings that seemed maybe not
so benevolent or maybe with their own personal agendas. And
I just always remember no one ever taught me this.
It just was my mantra, like I'm not interested in
lessons of benevolence. I'm not interested unlessons of the light.
I'm not interested unless it's of service to the greater good.
(13:13):
And that was just it just none of that stuff
really came into my fields after that, because it just
was my claim, you know, like I just kept saying it,
and I never really played with any of that stuff.
Is there some kind of message that they are trying
to convey through people like you? Yeah, I mean I
think it depends on who the they is. But in
(13:34):
my case, I was I was dealing with an intergalactic
group of my star family origin. And what my understanding
is and still, you know, this is what I do now,
is that humanity is going through a massive shift of consciousness,
a massive evolution unlike anything that has ever happened. That's
a good thing, right, yes, absolutely, And this is an
(13:58):
opportunity for all of us to become sovereign, to liberate
ourselves from this old paradigm. Of this old paradigm is
against based in fear, domination, manipulation, secrecy, conspiracy. It's all
that stuff that is starting to come out through amazing
you know, through coast to coach such an amazing platform
(14:19):
to help people become more conscious about this. And basically,
as we're waking up, we're liberating ourselves from that, we're
reclaiming our sovereignty, and we're remembering who we truly are,
and then we're bursting from within us what our real
great gifts are to the greater good of humanity and
how we're going to share that as we evolve going forward.
(14:42):
Laurie and your bio that in your bio that I
just read, it talks about how you want every being
to live their best life that they can and how
do they do that? Well, this is the process. See,
this is the thing. It's not a pill, our old paradigm.
It's so based and like take a pill and everything
will be red better in the morning. You know. It's
(15:05):
so not like that. It's an entirely new way of
being and it is it's an ongoing process of what
I would call spiritual hygiene, just like you take a
shower every day. There's certain things that we have to do.
So for example, one of the things we have to
do is we have to start identifying as individuals and
(15:25):
also a collective human species. Every belief, every thought, belief system,
every point of view, every perspective that keeps us stuck
or small or mediocre, or in some form of limitation
or lack, or in any form of separation from one another,
(15:47):
from Earth, from the universe, from the galaxy, from our
divine source. However we experience that, that's the first thing
we start identifying all of that, and as we do,
we also have to clean it out, we have to
transform it. So I often say the new currency of
Earth will be perspective. If you will be sharing new perspectives,
(16:09):
that we have to level off our perspective to this unity,
consciousness and this alignment with our source. So that's part
of the process. Listen to more Coast to Coast AM
every weeknight at one am Eastern, and go to Coast
to Coast am dot com for more
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast am on
iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori
with you. Lorie Enspania, bestselling author, couple of her books
Learn Animal Communication and Telepathy. How psychic are you? Speaker,
spiritual teacher, ascension guide. We'll tell you about that. Multidimensional channel, intuitive,
(00:23):
animal communicator, energy healer. Let me take a breath. A
light worker, visionary and luminary who assists others to awaken
their own alignment with the true divine source which exists
within each and every being, so that all beings can
live their best life ever. Radically transformed after a very
series of near death experiences while living in Maui and Hawaii,
(00:47):
Laurie teaches about ascension and acts as a guide to
awakening spirituality, Minded animal lovers, light workers, star seeds and
way showers. Laurie, Welcome to the program. What a bio. Well,
Hello George, thank you so much for having me tonight.
I'm so glad to be here you too. And what
is a way shower? A way shower? Way showers, you know,
(01:09):
awakening beings who are all helping one another to pay
the way to a new paradigm, a new way of living,
a new way of being, and a whole a whole
new reality. Really, there are way showers. We're alway showers.
You're a way shower. Well, tell me about these near
death experiences. Well, what happened was I was living in
Maui and I was studying with a really what I
(01:31):
would call a true master. And this gentleman had lived
in the Himalayan mountains for most of his life, and
he actually has documented cases where he woke up in
a freezer in the morgue, like literally that kind of
and some of his proteges and students are already practicing
hell of transportation. A lot of that's already documented. But
(01:54):
I was studying with him, and he was essentially teaching
me how to still they so much that the consciousness
could continue to the consciousness, My consciousness would be able
to continue to be completely conscious while the physical reality
that I existed would drop out, and he was able
(02:15):
to hold. In one of the experiences with him, he
would do what was called a little death. He helped
me experience what was called a little death, which is
where he knew how to take the consciousness my consciousness,
the essence of who I am as an individualized being,
and hold it in sense so that the entire physical
(02:35):
reality that I lived and just dropped out was that dangerous.
Not for him, it wasn't. No, he was a real master.
It was incredible. And what happened was when he did that,
essentially I was in another totally different state of consciousness,
a whole different parents, a whole different frequency or dimensional reality,
(02:58):
so to speak. And it seems to me that maybe
five minutes passed by. I don't have this linear time,
but it was an hour that I was in the
room and there were people in the group, other students
around me. And what he did was he basically counted
the three. So that's it, it's time now. He counted
to three, he snapped his fingers and popped back into
(03:20):
my physical reality and my physical body. And I was
so full of like hysterical blissful laster because these frequencies
of the non physical realm are just so blissful and euphoric.
So everyone in the room, all of the other students,
all they needed to do basically was put their fingers
(03:40):
on me, and for another hour or more, everyone was
in their fetal position hysterical laughing, because this this frequency
of joy and bliss, it's so out of our earthly
experience it's almost impossible to contain it in the physical form.
Does that make sense now when we talk about ascension
(04:02):
and explain that a little bit, well. To me, ascension
is just the experience that we're all going through, which
is an evolutionary process where each individual is waking up
out of a reality where everything has been only physical
and anything else that wasn't physical didn't exist. We were
(04:25):
crazy and we didn't believe it. We're waking up out
of that reality, and we're actually passing through stages of
consciousness where we're expanding our consciousness and essentially elevating our
consciousness into a new paradigm or new reality, where we
recognize that actually the non physical is more real than
(04:46):
the physical, and we're essentially integrating that into our everyday
lives from a holy state of consciousness. To me, that's ascension.
Now for ascension, let's under standard because what is three D,
four D, five D, what is seven? Yeah? So three
D is the physical world we've been living in. That's
(05:07):
how I describe it. If you just think of three
D it's as simple as the three dimensions. The way
I describe it as light, various colors of light, gradients
of light, everything we see, sounds which is everything we hear,
and then space hype within depth, and that includes time.
(05:28):
Linear time is an essentially is a space a distance.
So that is the third dimensional paradigm, and that's where
we've all been living. And in that three D paradigm,
we're primarily operating from a left brain, and most of
everything we know and experience we're taught by some external
authority who tells us what's a belief. So when we
(05:50):
go through four D, we start connecting with a non
physical world. That's when we start getting in touch with
things like angels and loved ones who have crossed over
and ghosts. Is that real? We start making sense of
everything in the non physical world. We start opening up
to our true psychic abilities. We start accessing higher consciousness,
(06:11):
we start becoming more telepathic, we start becoming more empathic.
We're accessing this nonphysical world, which I refer to as
the fourth dimension. And by the way, that's really where
time exists because time is a construct of our consciousness.
Thoughts are in the fourth dimension emotions, beliefs. I mean,
(06:32):
those things are things, but they're not physical in a sense.
So as we start to integrate that into our reality,
that's as we really start becoming more conscious of all
that stuff. That's how we start leveling up into this
so called cist dimensional consciousness where we start recognizing like
(06:52):
everything is part of this one universal source. We start
shifting into universal consciousness, we start connecting with the unity consciousness,
and we start living from that new platform, that new
way of being. Are you able to move between these dimensions? Well,
this is the interesting thing because actually, in reality it's
(07:15):
within us. It's not like we're going anywhere. We don't
go anywhere. What we do is we're shifting our consciousness.
And the big thing is it's a vibrational shift. So
in three D our vibration, the energy that we have
is based typically in fear. It's like fear, worry, anxiety, frustration, doubt,
(07:37):
you know, sickness, stillness, depression, sadness. Those are the vibratory
states of the third dimensional consciousness. And we don't realize
it's all based in domination, you know, coersion, manipulation, are
those are aspects of our reality. But in fifth dimension.
We're elevating, we're clearing out. We're basically disentangling ourselves emotionally, mentally, physically,
(08:01):
energetically from all of that fear based reality. And as
we do so, we're elevating into a new peace, love,
joy based frequency and that becomes our guiding force. So
rather than just being in our left analytical brains from
the third dimensional paradigm, now we start shifting more heart
(08:23):
centered magnetism, the magnetism of peace and love and joy
that is a vibratory state in our heart center. Does
that make sense? Yeah, I'm with it. I'm with it.
We'll take calls with folks next hour. We'll see if
they make sense. Yeah, awesome. Love that. Now there's near
death experience that you had. Are you glad that you've
(08:48):
never had another one? Well, I want to say there's.
First of all, I want to say the way I
call it a near death experience, it's not it's not
like I was in a hospital so or you sit
by a car or something like that. It's not that form.
But it also was not what we might call astral travel.
A lot of people associated with astral travel. I wasn't
(09:09):
in my physical form, just sort of extending out beyond
physicality and traveling in a fourth dimensional realm. The reason
I refer to this as a near death experience is
because again in my consciousness, the physical reality completely dropped away,
and part of my experience was through practice on a
(09:31):
basically a daily basis. What I was doing was every
night after that master that I was working with his teaching.
For that, I had to work through the whole night
meditating without ever falling asleep, being able to completely still
myself while remaining entirely conscious. And so what that really
(09:54):
does is it transforms your experience. It's very easy actually
after office practice. It's not easy initially to completely leave
the physical form. It's possible. And the interesting thing was
what really opened all of the stuff was that at
the time I was living in Alley and I would
do it on my back porch a lot of times
(10:17):
drew the night and one of the nights when I
was on the back porch overlooking the golf courses two
o'clock in the morning, and I've made contact with you know,
like a ship. Was a light ship. I knew at
that time I had worked in the cable industry. I
knew what a satellite was I knew it wasn't a satellite,
(10:39):
and at that time, there was no airplane traffic at
two in the morning, so I was already doing telepesy.
I had already learned that, but I didn't know it
well enough that I knew nothing about ships. I knew
nothing about this is all pre twenty and twelve. I
knew nothing about extraterrestrials or Star family races. But I
(10:59):
just had this belief that they were here to help us,
like my own ignorance at that time, and I just
mentally said, telepathically, said like if I can do anything
to help on here, like it's just really kind of
clues about it. I was tele transported onto that shift.
That was what unlocked even more. Even more was awakened
(11:20):
from that point. So this is really where all this
stuff came from. It's not like I just you know,
overnight did this. It took It was over a period
of several years that this was all going on. And
you claimed that you were abducted. I wouldn't call it
an abduction. I wouldn't use that word because in my language,
if you say abduction, it means someone took you against
(11:42):
your free will. And caused to me, that's what that means, right,
It took you to another place right and did something
to you against your free will. To me, it was
I would call it a divine appointment with my star family.
I would call myself. I used the term braided Darcy.
Why you were you picked? Well, I don't think I'm alone.
(12:04):
I think there's lots of us here. I know there are,
So I would say more what it was was it
was a divine appointment. It was part of what I
call a sacred contract, essentially an agreement, a pre agreement,
almost like pre birth or pre incarnation, and that that
agreement was designed before I even incarnated. So even being
(12:28):
in MAUI was a divine appointment. I don't think of
it like an abduction. I think of it more like
a first contact. During any of this, LORI, did you
come across anything that you felt was kind of demonic
or evil? No, But I do remember, in the very
early days of waking up into my psychic gifts, I
(12:50):
do remember being approached by beings that seemed maybe not
so benevolent or maybe with their own personal agendas. And
I just always remember no one ever taught me this.
It just was my mantra, like I'm not interested in
lessons of benevolence. I'm not interested unlessons of the light.
I'm not interested unless it's of service to the greater good.
(13:13):
And that was just it just none of that stuff
really came into my fields after that, because it just
was my claim, you know, like I just kept saying it,
and I never really played with any of that stuff.
Is there some kind of message that they are trying
to convey through people like you? Yeah, I mean I
think it depends on who the they is. But in
(13:34):
my case, I was I was dealing with an intergalactic
group of my star family origin. And what my understanding
is and still, you know, this is what I do now,
is that humanity is going through a massive shift of consciousness,
a massive evolution unlike anything that has ever happened. That's
a good thing, right, yes, absolutely, And this is an
(13:58):
opportunity for all of us to become sovereign, to liberate
ourselves from this old paradigm. Of this old paradigm is
against based in fear, domination, manipulation, secrecy, conspiracy. It's all
that stuff that is starting to come out through amazing
you know, through coast to coach such an amazing platform
(14:19):
to help people become more conscious about this. And basically,
as we're waking up, we're liberating ourselves from that, we're
reclaiming our sovereignty, and we're remembering who we truly are,
and then we're bursting from within us what our real
great gifts are to the greater good of humanity and
how we're going to share that as we evolve going forward.
(14:42):
Laurie and your bio that in your bio that I
just read, it talks about how you want every being
to live their best life that they can and how
do they do that? Well, this is the process. See,
this is the thing. It's not a pill, our old paradigm.
It's so based and like take a pill and everything
will be red better in the morning. You know. It's
(15:05):
so not like that. It's an entirely new way of
being and it is it's an ongoing process of what
I would call spiritual hygiene, just like you take a
shower every day. There's certain things that we have to do.
So for example, one of the things we have to
do is we have to start identifying as individuals and
(15:25):
also a collective human species. Every belief, every thought, belief system,
every point of view, every perspective that keeps us stuck
or small or mediocre, or in some form of limitation
or lack, or in any form of separation from one another,
(15:47):
from Earth, from the universe, from the galaxy, from our
divine source. However we experience that, that's the first thing
we start identifying all of that, and as we do,
we also have to clean it out, we have to
transform it. So I often say the new currency of
Earth will be perspective. If you will be sharing new perspectives,
(16:09):
that we have to level off our perspective to this unity,
consciousness and this alignment with our source. So that's part
of the process. Listen to more Coast to Coast AM
every weeknight at one am Eastern, and go to Coast
to Coast am dot com for more
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.