August 28, 2020 • 12 mins
George Noory and UFO researcher Dr. Michael Salla discuss the Space Force, the newly created military branch dealing with threats from space, whether many UFO sightings may actually be military spacecraft and how UFO disclosure has become mainstream news.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on
iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast. George Nori
with you, Doctor Michael Salo with us. We're going to
take calls next hour with the Michael Michael. The Pentagon
setting up this new unit to investigate UFOs. Is that
a ruse or is that legit? What do you think? Well?
I think it's a continuation of the way in which
(00:21):
the Pentagon has been dealing with these Navy pilot sightings
of those UFOs in two thousand and four twenty fifteen.
It's been looking at it all in terms of them
being a threat, and this is I think just one
group within the Pentagon, within the whole national security establishment
(00:46):
that wants to look at this whole phenomenon as a threat,
whether or not the UFOs representing a breakthrough technology possessed
by China or Russia which constitutes a national security threat,
or whether it's we're talking about extraterrestrials and so it's
all framed as an unknown. But I truly believe that
(01:11):
it is known that people within the Pendent Gone do
know what those craft were, and I think that there's
good reason to believe that some of those craft, if
not all of those crafts, actually belong to the Air Force.
That these were craft built for the Air Force by
a top aerospace corporation like Lockheed Martin, and they were
(01:36):
testing them on us. They were testing them. This was
an ideal way for these new craft that I believe
were built for the Air Force by a major corporation,
to be tested against the best maybe surveillance technologies and
their in their latest generation of F eighteen Horners, to
(02:01):
see how effective the Navy were in responding to these crafts.
And I say that because there are a number of
reasons why we can suspect that the craft were Air
Force secret space program craft. Two of the personnel that
were involved in tracking these UFOs that approached the Navy jets,
(02:27):
they say that two personnel came on board and confiscated
the film, with the commander of that of that ship
accompanying the personnel, and the personnel on one of the
ships on the USS and mimits actually wore Air Force patches,
(02:48):
So these were Air Force personnel confiscating Navy footage. So
you know right away you have to suspect that something
is going on here involving the Air Force. Michael, what's
the lay with your ful crash retrievals, because that seems
to be popping up a lot these days too. Well.
That is really one of the exciting new developments for
(03:09):
those of us that are involved in this research in
terms of this becoming a topic that has more mainstream
outreach that The New York Times just over a month
ago released this major story where they cited doctor Eric
Davis giving briefings to congressional staffers and to Pentagon officials
(03:34):
about these otherworldly craft that were in the possession of
a corporation being studied. And we know from earlier remarks
and interviews Dr Davis has given that he is talking
about a program that he was made aware of back
in two thousand and two, where there was an Admiral
(03:57):
Thomas Wolfson trying to find out what a major corporation
was doing in terms of reverse engineering a captured extrast
or craft. So Davis knew about this. He was giving
briefings to congressional staffers and officials in Pentagon who were
who were acceptive to getting that information, and The New
(04:19):
York Times decided to run that story. Now, I think
the New York Times is is the paper record, and
it makes a topic like the UFOs and like reverse
engineering of crash extraterst or vehicles. It makes a topic
like that either something to be avoided or something to
(04:41):
be investigated. And by virtue of the fact that The
New York Times ran that story, now a lot of
other major media companies are starting to do their own investigations.
And I know that there are a lot of professionals
out there who who just really thought anyone talking about
secret reverse engineer of crash extrast or craft were just
(05:02):
you know, Tymfoil had people and just to be ignored.
Now they realize that they were lied to, that their
security clearances didn't mean anything, that they would just lied
to and so now they're paying attention. Well, and Eric
Davis is an astrophysicist who has been working for the government,
and he basically told them these things are out of
(05:23):
this world. That's exactly right. I mean, this is where
you have the mainstream, mainstreaming of the UFO literature. Now
all of a sudden, you've got a lot of professionals
out there trying to find out while you know, what
is the credible information we can get about this whole process.
(05:44):
You know, when did these reverse engineering programs begin? And
of course I don't think it's accidental that the Bobblaza
story suddenly has become a mainstream you know, he's got
a documentary, he put out a book, he's been getting
a lot of attention, was interviewed on the Joe Rogan Show,
and I know this has been a lot of other
(06:05):
shows that have been covering him, and so I think
this is part of a rollout, that this is part
of a one initiative, a white hat initiative, if you like,
to make people aware that some of these UFOs did crash,
that they were extraterrestal in origin, and that they are
(06:29):
being studied and reverse engineered as we speak, and that
the kind of approach that Dr Davis has been putting
out and the same thing with Bob Lazar is that
the reverse engineering efforts basically haven't been very successful. And
I think that's going to be part of the rollout
(06:51):
that we're witnessing that these reverse engineering attempts didn't succeed,
and so a lot more money and resources needs to
be put into this. It is amazing what's going on
over the last year or two. Michael, Why does it
seem to be happening so quickly after years and years
of all of you trying to get information, now it
seems to be flowing like crazy. Well, I think we
(07:14):
are fast approaching really major, major turning point in terms
of our planet and in terms of the United States
as a nation. I think this coming election is the
most important election in our lifetime. And I say that
(07:37):
as an Australian. I'm non American, but I look at
it just as an objective observer, and I think when
I look at all of the issues that are involved,
this is the most important presidential election, not only for
the United States, but for the entire planet, because I
think the outcome is going to really set make it
(07:57):
very clear what direction we as a planet are going
to take when it comes to a lot of these
really difficult subjects like c UFOs, reverse engineering of extraterstal
technologies unknown UFOs out there that are being tracked by military,
(08:18):
and of course extraterstrial life. All of these issues I
think are going to be become clearer after this election. Well,
I think so too, and probably more so, I would
guess more so that the President Trump would be more
apt to reveal information than the Democrat Joe Biden. That's
(08:40):
just my guess, what do you think? Definitely, I think
the President trump setting up of Space Force was a
really important move because I think that really sets in
place a process where a lot of this information will
be released. Because as long as space remained disorganized, kind
(09:05):
of very nebulous in terms of who's out there, who's
doing what out there, you know, what resources are different
nations devoting. As long as all that was kind of
like shadowy and murky, I think they would have kept
the secrets for a lot longer. But I think in
setting up Space Force, what President Trump has done as
(09:25):
he's introduced a firm timeline, because you know, what we
know now is that Space Force is being set up
very very rapidly. They're making all major milestones, but it's
still going to take a good two years from the
time of their inception, which was December twenty nineteen, So
we're talking probably by December twenty twenty one before Space
(09:47):
Force is really set up with a strong enough foundation
where it's going to be making a big difference out there.
And I think that's why that's part of the reason
why so much is happening right now. It's created identified
Aerial Phenomenal task Force. It's mission do you think will
be one specifically? I think that particular Pentagon task Force.
(10:11):
I think it's going to be something that is going
to portray the whole your fol issue as this unknown
threat and to really get the public to be on
board with supporting the Pentagon and the different military services
as they deal with this unknown threat. And it really
(10:32):
is to kind of put people on the edge, make
them introduce that fear factor they're because they don't know,
and the Pentagon isn't divulging that. So you know, what
I think we're seeing right now is multiple agendas playing out.
Some agendas are more positive in terms of like rolling
(10:56):
out technology and getting American industry back up and building
new generations of anti gravity craft or another jet set
of agendas is more than nefarious agenda, which is to
kind of frighten and overwhelm people with these kind of
(11:17):
mysterious beings out there that are visiting us and who
can outfly the best jets that we have. So yeah,
I think we've got our competing agendas, and you know,
all of this is coming to a head When will
they admit, Michael that they've been lying to us all
these years, or will they ever do that. I don't
think they're going to admit that at all, George. I
(11:39):
think they're just going to a package everything that they've done,
using new institutions like Space Force as the means for
rolling this out. So I think, as far as the
white hats are concern, they're just going to roll out
these secret spacecraft that they've built of the course of
(12:00):
decades as new acquisitions by Space Force, and which is
absolutely correct. Space Force is new and it's these are
newly acquired technologies for Space Force, and so I don't
think they're going to say that they've been lying at all.
I don't think the military are very good fessing up.
(12:22):
Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at
one am Eastern and go to Coast to Coast am
dot com for more
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on
iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast. George Nori
with you, Doctor Michael Salo with us. We're going to
take calls next hour with the Michael Michael. The Pentagon
setting up this new unit to investigate UFOs. Is that
a ruse or is that legit? What do you think? Well?
I think it's a continuation of the way in which
(00:21):
the Pentagon has been dealing with these Navy pilot sightings
of those UFOs in two thousand and four twenty fifteen.
It's been looking at it all in terms of them
being a threat, and this is I think just one
group within the Pentagon, within the whole national security establishment
(00:46):
that wants to look at this whole phenomenon as a threat,
whether or not the UFOs representing a breakthrough technology possessed
by China or Russia which constitutes a national security threat,
or whether it's we're talking about extraterrestrials and so it's
all framed as an unknown. But I truly believe that
(01:11):
it is known that people within the Pendent Gone do
know what those craft were, and I think that there's
good reason to believe that some of those craft, if
not all of those crafts, actually belong to the Air Force.
That these were craft built for the Air Force by
a top aerospace corporation like Lockheed Martin, and they were
(01:36):
testing them on us. They were testing them. This was
an ideal way for these new craft that I believe
were built for the Air Force by a major corporation,
to be tested against the best maybe surveillance technologies and
their in their latest generation of F eighteen Horners, to
(02:01):
see how effective the Navy were in responding to these crafts.
And I say that because there are a number of
reasons why we can suspect that the craft were Air
Force secret space program craft. Two of the personnel that
were involved in tracking these UFOs that approached the Navy jets,
(02:27):
they say that two personnel came on board and confiscated
the film, with the commander of that of that ship
accompanying the personnel, and the personnel on one of the
ships on the USS and mimits actually wore Air Force patches,
(02:48):
So these were Air Force personnel confiscating Navy footage. So
you know right away you have to suspect that something
is going on here involving the Air Force. Michael, what's
the lay with your ful crash retrievals, because that seems
to be popping up a lot these days too. Well.
That is really one of the exciting new developments for
(03:09):
those of us that are involved in this research in
terms of this becoming a topic that has more mainstream
outreach that The New York Times just over a month
ago released this major story where they cited doctor Eric
Davis giving briefings to congressional staffers and to Pentagon officials
(03:34):
about these otherworldly craft that were in the possession of
a corporation being studied. And we know from earlier remarks
and interviews Dr Davis has given that he is talking
about a program that he was made aware of back
in two thousand and two, where there was an Admiral
(03:57):
Thomas Wolfson trying to find out what a major corporation
was doing in terms of reverse engineering a captured extrast
or craft. So Davis knew about this. He was giving
briefings to congressional staffers and officials in Pentagon who were
who were acceptive to getting that information, and The New
(04:19):
York Times decided to run that story. Now, I think
the New York Times is is the paper record, and
it makes a topic like the UFOs and like reverse
engineering of crash extraterst or vehicles. It makes a topic
like that either something to be avoided or something to
(04:41):
be investigated. And by virtue of the fact that The
New York Times ran that story, now a lot of
other major media companies are starting to do their own investigations.
And I know that there are a lot of professionals
out there who who just really thought anyone talking about
secret reverse engineer of crash extrast or craft were just
(05:02):
you know, Tymfoil had people and just to be ignored.
Now they realize that they were lied to, that their
security clearances didn't mean anything, that they would just lied
to and so now they're paying attention. Well, and Eric
Davis is an astrophysicist who has been working for the government,
and he basically told them these things are out of
(05:23):
this world. That's exactly right. I mean, this is where
you have the mainstream, mainstreaming of the UFO literature. Now
all of a sudden, you've got a lot of professionals
out there trying to find out while you know, what
is the credible information we can get about this whole process.
(05:44):
You know, when did these reverse engineering programs begin? And
of course I don't think it's accidental that the Bobblaza
story suddenly has become a mainstream you know, he's got
a documentary, he put out a book, he's been getting
a lot of attention, was interviewed on the Joe Rogan Show,
and I know this has been a lot of other
(06:05):
shows that have been covering him, and so I think
this is part of a rollout, that this is part
of a one initiative, a white hat initiative, if you like,
to make people aware that some of these UFOs did crash,
that they were extraterrestal in origin, and that they are
(06:29):
being studied and reverse engineered as we speak, and that
the kind of approach that Dr Davis has been putting
out and the same thing with Bob Lazar is that
the reverse engineering efforts basically haven't been very successful. And
I think that's going to be part of the rollout
(06:51):
that we're witnessing that these reverse engineering attempts didn't succeed,
and so a lot more money and resources needs to
be put into this. It is amazing what's going on
over the last year or two. Michael, Why does it
seem to be happening so quickly after years and years
of all of you trying to get information, now it
seems to be flowing like crazy. Well, I think we
(07:14):
are fast approaching really major, major turning point in terms
of our planet and in terms of the United States
as a nation. I think this coming election is the
most important election in our lifetime. And I say that
(07:37):
as an Australian. I'm non American, but I look at
it just as an objective observer, and I think when
I look at all of the issues that are involved,
this is the most important presidential election, not only for
the United States, but for the entire planet, because I
think the outcome is going to really set make it
(07:57):
very clear what direction we as a planet are going
to take when it comes to a lot of these
really difficult subjects like c UFOs, reverse engineering of extraterstal
technologies unknown UFOs out there that are being tracked by military,
(08:18):
and of course extraterstrial life. All of these issues I
think are going to be become clearer after this election. Well,
I think so too, and probably more so, I would
guess more so that the President Trump would be more
apt to reveal information than the Democrat Joe Biden. That's
(08:40):
just my guess, what do you think? Definitely, I think
the President trump setting up of Space Force was a
really important move because I think that really sets in
place a process where a lot of this information will
be released. Because as long as space remained disorganized, kind
(09:05):
of very nebulous in terms of who's out there, who's
doing what out there, you know, what resources are different
nations devoting. As long as all that was kind of
like shadowy and murky, I think they would have kept
the secrets for a lot longer. But I think in
setting up Space Force, what President Trump has done as
(09:25):
he's introduced a firm timeline, because you know, what we
know now is that Space Force is being set up
very very rapidly. They're making all major milestones, but it's
still going to take a good two years from the
time of their inception, which was December twenty nineteen, So
we're talking probably by December twenty twenty one before Space
(09:47):
Force is really set up with a strong enough foundation
where it's going to be making a big difference out there.
And I think that's why that's part of the reason
why so much is happening right now. It's created identified
Aerial Phenomenal task Force. It's mission do you think will
be one specifically? I think that particular Pentagon task Force.
(10:11):
I think it's going to be something that is going
to portray the whole your fol issue as this unknown
threat and to really get the public to be on
board with supporting the Pentagon and the different military services
as they deal with this unknown threat. And it really
(10:32):
is to kind of put people on the edge, make
them introduce that fear factor they're because they don't know,
and the Pentagon isn't divulging that. So you know, what
I think we're seeing right now is multiple agendas playing out.
Some agendas are more positive in terms of like rolling
(10:56):
out technology and getting American industry back up and building
new generations of anti gravity craft or another jet set
of agendas is more than nefarious agenda, which is to
kind of frighten and overwhelm people with these kind of
(11:17):
mysterious beings out there that are visiting us and who
can outfly the best jets that we have. So yeah,
I think we've got our competing agendas, and you know,
all of this is coming to a head When will
they admit, Michael that they've been lying to us all
these years, or will they ever do that. I don't
think they're going to admit that at all, George. I
(11:39):
think they're just going to a package everything that they've done,
using new institutions like Space Force as the means for
rolling this out. So I think, as far as the
white hats are concern, they're just going to roll out
these secret spacecraft that they've built of the course of
(12:00):
decades as new acquisitions by Space Force, and which is
absolutely correct. Space Force is new and it's these are
newly acquired technologies for Space Force, and so I don't
think they're going to say that they've been lying at all.
I don't think the military are very good fessing up.
(12:22):
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