February 11, 2020 • 16 mins
George Noory and Dr. Jeffrey Rediger discuss his research into cases where seemingly incurable diseases were conquered without the help of conventional medicine, and whether a proper diet or prayer can help with healing.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on
iHeart Radio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George
nor back with doctor Jeffrey Rudeger. His book Cured. His
website is linked up at Coast to coastam dot com.
It's his name with doctor dr in front of it,
but it's all linked up for yet Coast to coastam
dot com. Jeffrey. These individuals, these hundred people who miraculously
(00:21):
got cured, were they religious or spiritual? Not all of them.
Some were spiritual, some are religious, some are not. It's
quite a smattering across the board in terms of all
of that. Were they all told there's really nothing we
(00:43):
can do for you other than, you know, chop you
up and give you conventional chemo and radiation and everything else. Yeah,
I mean, these are cases of hancre carcinoma, glioblastoma multiform
which is a really awful form of brain cancer, and
closing spondylitis, which is an autoimmune disease. That was Juniper.
(01:06):
There was end stage lupus with lupus in the brain
and the kidneys, in the liver, in the heart. That
was jan Let's see who whatever. We had doctor Patricia Kane.
She was a physician diagnosed by biobviously with idiopathic pulmonary fbrosis,
where your lungs essentially turned a cardboard and you can't
(01:28):
exchange oxygen any longer and you die. So it was
a wide range of cases with a wide range of
people and religious commitments, and I have to assume they
did not simply just throw in the towel, did they. No.
Now Again, it's fascinating when the specter of death is
(01:54):
facing you down how people respond. I've seen people be
diagnosed with and a fatal disease and some people would
just curl up and die. Other peoples they expect to die,
but it's like the diagnosis liberates something in them. And
(02:15):
it's been fascinating to me to see how a person will,
for example, decide that well, I don't have to be
the doctor that my parents wanted me to be any longer,
or I don't have to do this. And it's one
of the most common things that people have said to
me over the years is it took an illness for
them to wake up and realize they didn't need to
(02:37):
be taken care of everyone else any longer. Or they
didn't need to react to the perceived expectations of others
any longer, and they, for the first time in their
lives sometimes they felt free to pursue a life that
helped them come alive, that helped them live authentically, that
helped them pursue their own well being, or that which
(03:00):
it's a light in their eyes. And so that that
was an astonishing finding for me to see how even
though they expected to die, they decided to live as
well as they could in the time they had left.
I mean, did they do anything else other than that?
I mean, other than simply say, well, I'm going to die,
so I'm going to have a great time and have
(03:20):
a super run at it. What else did they do?
They had to have done something, So the four pillars
of healing and well being number one. Many people made
significant changes in the nutrition. Not everybody did, but lots
of people did. And by that I mean they eliminated
processed foods, sugars, and refined flowers. They ate a more
(03:44):
plant based diet. What's fascinating is, I don't think we
really understand, for example, how toxic sugar can really be
to our system and well in big quantities. That sure
can be. Yeah, I mean, one hundred years ago we
on average eight four pounds of sugar a year. Now,
on average we tend to eat more like one hundred
and fifty four pounds. And it's in everything. And these
(04:07):
little sugar spicules, these little sharp edged cubes, they course
through our blood stream and they cause microcuts in the
endothelium as they go. The endothelium is a very important
protective barrier in our body, but it's only one cell
layer thick. And if you are constantly cutting up the
(04:28):
endothelium of your cardiovascular system, you're causing a repair response.
So you're consuming resources in your amazing immune system and
needing to repair constantly. And those that constant effort to
repair leaves scar tissue. That then is the first step
(04:49):
towards atherosclerosis, for example, and soaring of the arteries right exactly,
hardening of the artists. Your arteries over time with all
that scar tissue become more for rotic, more stiff, and
less flexible, and that's the step. That's it's the creation
of inflammation. Did they supplement themselves with the vitamins in
(05:12):
the thumb and some did not, and so absolutely some
people took supplements. Not everybody did, but there definitely was
a trend among a lot of people to become more
plant based. Um, not everybody did. I especially told the
story and cured for example of people who went with
(05:33):
more of a catosis diet, which was heavy on protein
and meat. But they're like the Atkins diet. Yeah, like
the Atkins diet. But what was really similar across all
the different dietary approaches was there tended to be a
an elimination of processed foods, sugars, and refined flowers. And
(05:56):
that was really a very common, underlying commonality. Even though
the outer differences were very different about vegetarian versus meat
eating and that sort of thing, it was really processed
foods and sugars and refined flowers was a big piece
of what was eliminated. How long what was the timespan
doctor that we're talking about where they literally went from
(06:20):
almost dying to being cured. That varied across individuals. Some
people got better very quickly through amazing experiences. But what
I concluded was that whether it takes ten days or
ten years, the process appears to be very similar. So
nutrition was one was one of the pillars number two,
(06:43):
people often healed their immune systems. And what's exciting is
that as I was doing all of this research, there's
been a lot changing in the last seventeen years in medicine,
and even though it hasn't impacted clinical medicine yet, we
now know on the basis of research that people don't
have a diabetes problem, they don't have a cancer problem,
(07:04):
a blood pressure problem, a heart problem, or an autoimmune problem.
They have an inflammation problem. And so Inflama, as doctors,
we're all trained in body parts. If you're a gastroenterologist,
you train to study the gastrointestinal tract. If you're a cardiologist,
you study the heart, if you're a psychiatrist, you study
(07:25):
the mind. All of the specialized in body parts. But
that's really prevented us from standing back and seeing the
forest for the trees and realizing that it's not the
body part that's getting diseased. It's the chronic inflammation that
builds up in the body through our lifestyle, and then
the weakest link in your body is the one that
(07:46):
first becomes ill. And that's a really different way of thinking,
and it's very exciting to me that we're finally starting
to wake up and realize, Oh, it's not the particular
body part that's a problem. It's the inflammation that builds
up in the system and then precipitates an event, whether
it's a very stressful event in your life that causes
(08:09):
the heart problem. That's when it them becomes manifest. Now,
for these hundred people who miraculously were saved, there were
hundreds of others who died of cancers and other diseases.
What went wrong with them? So if I'm understanding your question,
I think, are you asking what about those who made
(08:30):
the same changes and still didn't get me? They didn't
save themselves? That's correct. I think this is such a
new science. I mean, there's nothing spontaneous about spontaneous emission.
Is one of the contribusions I made. By the end
of this we call these healings spontaneous. Spontaneous means without cause.
(08:51):
That's a very unscientific assumption to just believe that somebody
got better spontaneously without a cause. It turns out there
is a cause. We just assumed there was not. And
so I one of my real efforts here is to
bring science and doctors into a place of curiosity to
(09:11):
look at these cases more closely. I just did an
event earlier tonight with Jill Bolt Taylor, who is a
She was a neuroscientist at McLean where I work, and
back in the nineties, at age thirty seven, she had
a stroke that took out most of her left brain.
She then had a full recovery over a period of
(09:32):
eight years, and then she had a TED talk that
went viral as the first TED talk that went viral.
It's been seeing millions and millions of times around the world.
She was named by Time magazine as one of the
most important people of two thousand and eight. I believe
she has had Oprah, who has been doing a movie
(09:52):
on her life. She's a really prominent, lovely lady who's
and this is a neuroscientist who had a stroke. So
she knew what was happening to her as it was happening,
as it was happening, and so she documented this in
a book called A Stroke of Insight. The book has
been a bestseller for years. It translated into something like
(10:13):
twenty eight or thirty languages. And she said, when we
first talked the first time, she said, I've been waiting
for you for twenty two years. She said, in twenty
two years, not a single doctor has ever asked me
how I got better from my stroke. And this is
in spite of who she is, with her world class
fame and prominence. And so that's what I hear over
(10:35):
and over again is that patients will say that their
doctors at best will say, well, whatever you're doing, keep
doing it because it's working. But they have not played
a role in helping people understand what's possible for them.
And they just are not trained to think it's possible
(10:56):
for people to get right. They don't know there's this
foreign for them exactly. It's a whole different way of
thinking because as doctors were trained to make diagnoses and
prescribe medications. But by and large, we don't study how
people heal, which is an astonishing statement. But I think
we're at the end of an era where the era
has been about disease and medications, and now things are
(11:18):
starting to change and we are finally just now beginning
to ask questions about how do people heal and what
does it mean to study how people heal? And the
people I study are kind of the ultimate achievers of
health and wellbeing and so it just makes sense that
we study not only healing, but especially study the ones
who really beat the odds. Did these hundred people Jeffrey,
(11:41):
do it all on their own or did they have
a support group of people who prayed for them and
things like that. Many people had a support group. In fact,
these people buy and large took responsibility for their health
and wellbeing. They didn't just do what the doctor said.
They decided. I mean, many of these people believed they
(12:02):
were going to die, but they also wanted to Some
of them wanted to give it their best shot, and
so they would assemble their own team. They would ask
for second opinions, They would do research to try to
figure out what was the right path for them, what
were the right decisions for them. They sometimes would kind
(12:22):
of hire their own team, you know, hire a coach
or who they felt might be helpful to them. That's miraculous,
isn't it. It really is. When you started studying these
hundred cases, I mean, were you shocked, Oh? Absolutely, I
was shocked. I mean, it's changed my life completely. I've
(12:45):
I was a typical physician. I knew very little bit
about nutrition. I look back now and realized I was
given a lot of misinformation in med school about nutrition.
We were told, actually that nutrition is not a problem
in the United States or in westernized countries, that we
have a problem of overnutrition, that we eat too much
(13:05):
and that's overnutrition. What turns out that there's a massive
problem of malnutrition. We just don't we are not taught
what real nutrition is. We assume that processed foods and
sugars are just part of the Western diet, and that's
part of it. But you know what's fascinating that when
we diagnose cancer safer with a pet scan or something,
(13:28):
we inject radio labeled glucose, which is sugar, into the
person's body and then see if there's any place in
the body that sucks it up avidly, because sugar is
cancer's favorite food and if there's a place in your
body that is just sucking up the sugar, there's a
good chance that's cancer as well. And so like Pablo
(13:51):
in London, he knew that when he was diagnosed with
brain cancer with Leo blessed the multiforms. So we said, well,
why don't I just try to starve this cancer to death?
And so he eliminated sugar radically and now years later
he's fine, And of course doctors never would have expected
(14:11):
that that was a possibility. Do they ever relapse these people,
some do absolutely. It's it's a it's a it's a
fascinating study because there are absolutely people who would like
to believe they got better, but the evidence, the medical evidence,
does not support that. They desperately want to be better.
(14:32):
There are others who there's a jan how I tell
the story in the book. She had in stage lupus.
Doctors told her that if she went to a healing
center in Brazil she would die on the way. They're
most likely because it was in her brain at that point,
it was in her kidneys, is in her heart. She
was failing rapidly. She went to Brazil anyway. A doctor
(14:53):
actually went with her who he was so concerned, and
she did get better. She came off of medications that
she had been on for decades. She came off I
think off of something like twenty medications over a period
of time, including the PREDDA zone which she had been
on for decades, and she became a different person. Right. So,
(15:17):
when I met her, and then she showed me the
photos of who she'd been they didn't look like the
same woman. And if they that those two people have
been standing next to each other who she was and
who she was now, I would not have been able
to recognize them. And she said when she returns home
to Idaho, she would walk down the street and see
(15:37):
people that she had known her entire life and they
would not recognize her. So she got dramatically better. She
went back to Idaho to a marriage that was toxic
for her and a work environment that was not good
for her. She became ill again. She relapsed when back
to Brazil, got better and realized, oh, there's something about
my marriage and her job, all of that, and so
(16:02):
she dramatically changed her life and now decades later, she's
happy and healthy and amazing lady. They're just her smile
and the light in her eyes is just really amazing.
Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at
one am Eastern and go to Coast to Coast am
(16:22):
dot com for more
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on
iHeart Radio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George
nor back with doctor Jeffrey Rudeger. His book Cured. His
website is linked up at Coast to coastam dot com.
It's his name with doctor dr in front of it,
but it's all linked up for yet Coast to coastam
dot com. Jeffrey. These individuals, these hundred people who miraculously
(00:21):
got cured, were they religious or spiritual? Not all of them.
Some were spiritual, some are religious, some are not. It's
quite a smattering across the board in terms of all
of that. Were they all told there's really nothing we
(00:43):
can do for you other than, you know, chop you
up and give you conventional chemo and radiation and everything else. Yeah,
I mean, these are cases of hancre carcinoma, glioblastoma multiform
which is a really awful form of brain cancer, and
closing spondylitis, which is an autoimmune disease. That was Juniper.
(01:06):
There was end stage lupus with lupus in the brain
and the kidneys, in the liver, in the heart. That
was jan Let's see who whatever. We had doctor Patricia Kane.
She was a physician diagnosed by biobviously with idiopathic pulmonary fbrosis,
where your lungs essentially turned a cardboard and you can't
(01:28):
exchange oxygen any longer and you die. So it was
a wide range of cases with a wide range of
people and religious commitments, and I have to assume they
did not simply just throw in the towel, did they. No.
Now Again, it's fascinating when the specter of death is
(01:54):
facing you down how people respond. I've seen people be
diagnosed with and a fatal disease and some people would
just curl up and die. Other peoples they expect to die,
but it's like the diagnosis liberates something in them. And
(02:15):
it's been fascinating to me to see how a person will,
for example, decide that well, I don't have to be
the doctor that my parents wanted me to be any longer,
or I don't have to do this. And it's one
of the most common things that people have said to
me over the years is it took an illness for
them to wake up and realize they didn't need to
(02:37):
be taken care of everyone else any longer. Or they
didn't need to react to the perceived expectations of others
any longer, and they, for the first time in their
lives sometimes they felt free to pursue a life that
helped them come alive, that helped them live authentically, that
helped them pursue their own well being, or that which
(03:00):
it's a light in their eyes. And so that that
was an astonishing finding for me to see how even
though they expected to die, they decided to live as
well as they could in the time they had left.
I mean, did they do anything else other than that?
I mean, other than simply say, well, I'm going to die,
so I'm going to have a great time and have
(03:20):
a super run at it. What else did they do?
They had to have done something, So the four pillars
of healing and well being number one. Many people made
significant changes in the nutrition. Not everybody did, but lots
of people did. And by that I mean they eliminated
processed foods, sugars, and refined flowers. They ate a more
(03:44):
plant based diet. What's fascinating is, I don't think we
really understand, for example, how toxic sugar can really be
to our system and well in big quantities. That sure
can be. Yeah, I mean, one hundred years ago we
on average eight four pounds of sugar a year. Now,
on average we tend to eat more like one hundred
and fifty four pounds. And it's in everything. And these
(04:07):
little sugar spicules, these little sharp edged cubes, they course
through our blood stream and they cause microcuts in the
endothelium as they go. The endothelium is a very important
protective barrier in our body, but it's only one cell
layer thick. And if you are constantly cutting up the
(04:28):
endothelium of your cardiovascular system, you're causing a repair response.
So you're consuming resources in your amazing immune system and
needing to repair constantly. And those that constant effort to
repair leaves scar tissue. That then is the first step
(04:49):
towards atherosclerosis, for example, and soaring of the arteries right exactly,
hardening of the artists. Your arteries over time with all
that scar tissue become more for rotic, more stiff, and
less flexible, and that's the step. That's it's the creation
of inflammation. Did they supplement themselves with the vitamins in
(05:12):
the thumb and some did not, and so absolutely some
people took supplements. Not everybody did, but there definitely was
a trend among a lot of people to become more
plant based. Um, not everybody did. I especially told the
story and cured for example of people who went with
(05:33):
more of a catosis diet, which was heavy on protein
and meat. But they're like the Atkins diet. Yeah, like
the Atkins diet. But what was really similar across all
the different dietary approaches was there tended to be a
an elimination of processed foods, sugars, and refined flowers. And
(05:56):
that was really a very common, underlying commonality. Even though
the outer differences were very different about vegetarian versus meat
eating and that sort of thing, it was really processed
foods and sugars and refined flowers was a big piece
of what was eliminated. How long what was the timespan
doctor that we're talking about where they literally went from
(06:20):
almost dying to being cured. That varied across individuals. Some
people got better very quickly through amazing experiences. But what
I concluded was that whether it takes ten days or
ten years, the process appears to be very similar. So
nutrition was one was one of the pillars number two,
(06:43):
people often healed their immune systems. And what's exciting is
that as I was doing all of this research, there's
been a lot changing in the last seventeen years in medicine,
and even though it hasn't impacted clinical medicine yet, we
now know on the basis of research that people don't
have a diabetes problem, they don't have a cancer problem,
(07:04):
a blood pressure problem, a heart problem, or an autoimmune problem.
They have an inflammation problem. And so Inflama, as doctors,
we're all trained in body parts. If you're a gastroenterologist,
you train to study the gastrointestinal tract. If you're a cardiologist,
you study the heart, if you're a psychiatrist, you study
(07:25):
the mind. All of the specialized in body parts. But
that's really prevented us from standing back and seeing the
forest for the trees and realizing that it's not the
body part that's getting diseased. It's the chronic inflammation that
builds up in the body through our lifestyle, and then
the weakest link in your body is the one that
(07:46):
first becomes ill. And that's a really different way of thinking,
and it's very exciting to me that we're finally starting
to wake up and realize, Oh, it's not the particular
body part that's a problem. It's the inflammation that builds
up in the system and then precipitates an event, whether
it's a very stressful event in your life that causes
(08:09):
the heart problem. That's when it them becomes manifest. Now,
for these hundred people who miraculously were saved, there were
hundreds of others who died of cancers and other diseases.
What went wrong with them? So if I'm understanding your question,
I think, are you asking what about those who made
(08:30):
the same changes and still didn't get me? They didn't
save themselves? That's correct. I think this is such a
new science. I mean, there's nothing spontaneous about spontaneous emission.
Is one of the contribusions I made. By the end
of this we call these healings spontaneous. Spontaneous means without cause.
(08:51):
That's a very unscientific assumption to just believe that somebody
got better spontaneously without a cause. It turns out there
is a cause. We just assumed there was not. And
so I one of my real efforts here is to
bring science and doctors into a place of curiosity to
(09:11):
look at these cases more closely. I just did an
event earlier tonight with Jill Bolt Taylor, who is a
She was a neuroscientist at McLean where I work, and
back in the nineties, at age thirty seven, she had
a stroke that took out most of her left brain.
She then had a full recovery over a period of
(09:32):
eight years, and then she had a TED talk that
went viral as the first TED talk that went viral.
It's been seeing millions and millions of times around the world.
She was named by Time magazine as one of the
most important people of two thousand and eight. I believe
she has had Oprah, who has been doing a movie
(09:52):
on her life. She's a really prominent, lovely lady who's
and this is a neuroscientist who had a stroke. So
she knew what was happening to her as it was happening,
as it was happening, and so she documented this in
a book called A Stroke of Insight. The book has
been a bestseller for years. It translated into something like
(10:13):
twenty eight or thirty languages. And she said, when we
first talked the first time, she said, I've been waiting
for you for twenty two years. She said, in twenty
two years, not a single doctor has ever asked me
how I got better from my stroke. And this is
in spite of who she is, with her world class
fame and prominence. And so that's what I hear over
(10:35):
and over again is that patients will say that their
doctors at best will say, well, whatever you're doing, keep
doing it because it's working. But they have not played
a role in helping people understand what's possible for them.
And they just are not trained to think it's possible
(10:56):
for people to get right. They don't know there's this
foreign for them exactly. It's a whole different way of
thinking because as doctors were trained to make diagnoses and
prescribe medications. But by and large, we don't study how
people heal, which is an astonishing statement. But I think
we're at the end of an era where the era
has been about disease and medications, and now things are
(11:18):
starting to change and we are finally just now beginning
to ask questions about how do people heal and what
does it mean to study how people heal? And the
people I study are kind of the ultimate achievers of
health and wellbeing and so it just makes sense that
we study not only healing, but especially study the ones
who really beat the odds. Did these hundred people Jeffrey,
(11:41):
do it all on their own or did they have
a support group of people who prayed for them and
things like that. Many people had a support group. In fact,
these people buy and large took responsibility for their health
and wellbeing. They didn't just do what the doctor said.
They decided. I mean, many of these people believed they
(12:02):
were going to die, but they also wanted to Some
of them wanted to give it their best shot, and
so they would assemble their own team. They would ask
for second opinions, They would do research to try to
figure out what was the right path for them, what
were the right decisions for them. They sometimes would kind
(12:22):
of hire their own team, you know, hire a coach
or who they felt might be helpful to them. That's miraculous,
isn't it. It really is. When you started studying these
hundred cases, I mean, were you shocked, Oh? Absolutely, I
was shocked. I mean, it's changed my life completely. I've
(12:45):
I was a typical physician. I knew very little bit
about nutrition. I look back now and realized I was
given a lot of misinformation in med school about nutrition.
We were told, actually that nutrition is not a problem
in the United States or in westernized countries, that we
have a problem of overnutrition, that we eat too much
(13:05):
and that's overnutrition. What turns out that there's a massive
problem of malnutrition. We just don't we are not taught
what real nutrition is. We assume that processed foods and
sugars are just part of the Western diet, and that's
part of it. But you know what's fascinating that when
we diagnose cancer safer with a pet scan or something,
(13:28):
we inject radio labeled glucose, which is sugar, into the
person's body and then see if there's any place in
the body that sucks it up avidly, because sugar is
cancer's favorite food and if there's a place in your
body that is just sucking up the sugar, there's a
good chance that's cancer as well. And so like Pablo
(13:51):
in London, he knew that when he was diagnosed with
brain cancer with Leo blessed the multiforms. So we said, well,
why don't I just try to starve this cancer to death?
And so he eliminated sugar radically and now years later
he's fine, And of course doctors never would have expected
(14:11):
that that was a possibility. Do they ever relapse these people,
some do absolutely. It's it's a it's a it's a
fascinating study because there are absolutely people who would like
to believe they got better, but the evidence, the medical evidence,
does not support that. They desperately want to be better.
(14:32):
There are others who there's a jan how I tell
the story in the book. She had in stage lupus.
Doctors told her that if she went to a healing
center in Brazil she would die on the way. They're
most likely because it was in her brain at that point,
it was in her kidneys, is in her heart. She
was failing rapidly. She went to Brazil anyway. A doctor
(14:53):
actually went with her who he was so concerned, and
she did get better. She came off of medications that
she had been on for decades. She came off I
think off of something like twenty medications over a period
of time, including the PREDDA zone which she had been
on for decades, and she became a different person. Right. So,
(15:17):
when I met her, and then she showed me the
photos of who she'd been they didn't look like the
same woman. And if they that those two people have
been standing next to each other who she was and
who she was now, I would not have been able
to recognize them. And she said when she returns home
to Idaho, she would walk down the street and see
(15:37):
people that she had known her entire life and they
would not recognize her. So she got dramatically better. She
went back to Idaho to a marriage that was toxic
for her and a work environment that was not good
for her. She became ill again. She relapsed when back
to Brazil, got better and realized, oh, there's something about
my marriage and her job, all of that, and so
(16:02):
she dramatically changed her life and now decades later, she's
happy and healthy and amazing lady. They're just her smile
and the light in her eyes is just really amazing.
Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at
one am Eastern and go to Coast to Coast am
(16:22):
dot com for more
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.