FOX Football Sunday with Mike Harmon and Will Blackmon: 01/12/2020

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio. Locked a little and
excited to be with you. Big Divisional round of the
National Football League Playoffs. Two games in the books, one
that might have caught you by surprise, not if you
listen to either of us. But we'll get into that
as we roll. San Francisco and the Tennessee Titans advanced

(00:21):
two more games later on to night. All right, this afternoon,
this evening. But it sounds better when you put it
in the big lights, the bright lights up, prime time
Mike Harmon alongside twelve year NFL VET Super Bowl champion
Will Blackman. Uh. Fun Saturday in the books, Big week
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was gonna play out. I didn't know. I enjoyed it. Yeah,
you gotta have that, that that powerful start to the day. Uh,
what was the hardest thing about the exam? What's what's
the what's the one thing that you had to go
in thinking, all right, I gotta make sure I don't
mess this part up. Um. I actually just went with
an open mind. I had no idea what was going
to happen. Um. But yeah, I guess the most difficult

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thing is you have to know your geography and then
from there you get a lot of information. But yeah,
I'm excited. So anybody, what do you pair with a
big Tennessee Titans win man? This one here? Yeah, I
have no idea right here, this this was, this was
I mean surprising for most, but as you said, not

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for something. Yeah, I mean both of us, as as
I know you were on with Colin Cowhard and with
the odd couple on Friday Day, uh us, Jason Smith
and I as we're picking games, it's like this one
as the week was on, Like you're looking at a
double digit spread the whole time. I'm going this defense
can play, they smash you in the mouth. We saw
it against New England, and maybe people revisit New England

(02:15):
a little differently after this one. But you saw the
scheme to get after Lamar Jackson, to make him uncomfortable,
to make things a bit difficult in the yards. Are fine, right,
there's another example of where if you just looked at
a box score without a score of people. Oh, they
bludgeoned him, right because look at all the yardage that
Lamar Jackson put up. But they had a great run game.

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Of course, once again Derrick Henry shows up and does
Derrick Henry things. I mean that that all white outfit
that he showed up in, I mean that was it
like he was descended from the clouds. You're ready to
play that game, you know. So when I went on
the herd, I actually I favored, Um, I favored Baltimore,

(03:01):
but I I said, if if there is going to
be an upset, this would be the game. And then
I was gonna say the same thing on Twitter, and
I was like, you know what, scret, I'm just gonna
say it, Tennessee is gonna upset, right. And my whole
thing wasn't so much of scheme and play design. It
was just more so of characteristics. You know, Um, the

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one thing that Baltimore has done all year they have
played bullyball and just abused everyone else. You know, everyone's
playing this finesse game. Multiple receivers, therefore, multiple defensive backs.
You need linebackers that could run around and cover. You
need safeties that can go ahead and cover, and it's
more about trying to stop the pass as opposed to
stop in the run. And I've said this before that

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this Tennessee Titans team reminds me of my two thousand
eleven Giants team got into the playoffs at nine seven
and just just capitalized and dominated, and I felt like, man,
this is this is the Tennessee is the one team
that Baltimore will not be able to bully and and
push around. And if Baltimore is able to run the

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football effectively, you know that's gonna be a problem. You
look at the Cleveland game where Nick Chubb had over
CRS Russian. You know, they got ahead, Baltimore got behind,
and then Lamar had to start throwing the ball more
and then you know there's been some turnovers. And that's
exactly what happened yesterday. So you go into the tail
of the tape, right if you if you went and

(04:30):
went deeper box score reading and trying to, you know,
scratch your head as to what you saw. Nearly double
the first downs for the Ravens five thirty total yards
to three hundred for Tennessee. But the yards per play
right on par one another passing yards didn't need a
big game again from Ryan Tannehill. And when you've got

(04:51):
your man Derrick Henry running for a nine five yards, Uh,
it doesn't much matter. A couple of drop passes, yes,
but big turnovers. I kept hitting the another one right
college Uh, one one after the next. Uh, you win
the turnover battle. Time of possession was nearly even despite
the number of plays that were run by the Ravens.

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And again, you can move the ball between the twenties.
You gotta finish the job. First half, you had to.
Justin tucker Field goals one that came after a big
pass completion that got them down in the in the
red zone. Look like the safety didn't want to blow
them up because that was a penalty waiting to happen
if you'd gotten there a second early, right, So instead
you have this great catch on the fingertips, you get

(05:37):
the tucker Field goal, and you're you're sitting there at
fourteen six and but still wondering because Tennessee, you know,
had bludgeoned them to that point. And I kept pointing
out over over the course of the last few weeks,
as we see the shuffling going on here in l
A with the ramps, Like wouldn't you like to have
re signed Roger Staffeld at some point in the in
the process. But you know what that that go is

(06:00):
into the ether, as we do Lamar Jackson in the
post game. You know, normally we like the Hey, you
know we were beaten by the better team today, not
so fast from Baltimore. Just beat on our sales, you know, Um, yeah,
well I had a lot of mistakes and might we
have free turnovers that shouldn't happen, but you know they
came out of play. You know, we just started off slow.
You just gotta do better next time. But moving forward,

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get rid of the all season and certainly it lent
itself to hot take theater, as you know will immediately
everybody started pouring through their old Lamar Jackson takes going
into the playoffs. Now two years in a row, flame outs,
and for this team in particular you talked about bullyball.
They played from ahead virtually every minute of this season

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as well, which means that run game behind mark ingram
Gus Edwards go on down the line and Lamar Jackson,
of course, averaging is eight one per game. During the
regular season, you're just running downhill and you're able as
a defense to tell a little bit making things easier
on Jimmy Smith, uh and and Humphrey and all those
guys in the defensive backfield. Humphrey was the one guy

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to say, look, the story of our team now is
that we choke in the playoffs right back to back
years where you're a favorite, and certainly for this year,
everybody was already booking their their trip to Miami. Yeah,
I mean there were there were some questions with things.
I understand, you know Ingram wasn't at full strength right
calf injuries. Certainly, Like however, Gus ed Gus Edwards is

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way more than capable of being an effective runner back
for you. You know, he had a couple of games
this year where he posted over a hundred yards rushing.
And then you know this is where we that we
taught common sense versus analytics. I understand they had a
guy on staff who had all these percentages of how
going for it on fourth down is beneficial and yesterday

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backfired twice. Well you saw the second one right as
Lamar got towards the line decided I'm gonna uh, go
back on the other side and see if I can
find a hole. And there were three guys waiting. Yeah,
but it doesn't it doesn't matter where he went. I mean, yeah,
he could have stayed to the right, but it's the
fact that they went for it twice when the game
wasn't even out of reach. You know, well, yeah, the percentage,

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just say it as long as you're consistent, like that's
I guess what it comes down to you for me,
and the hardball is a guy that that does go
for it and trust that they're going to I guess,
playoff football, how much do you flip the script from
what you've done in the regular season, right, I mean,
I mean they were in a similar situation versus the Chiefs,
you know, when they kept going for it on fourth down.

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I understand that stuff, but it's like, you know, pick
and choose, you know, the appropriate time they didn't have
to those those two fourth the ones that they went for.
You if they worked out, good for them, but those
weren't necessary. It's not like they needed to. Well, and
it goes back to, you know, the fourteen six halftime lead,
is that you've been dominated still one possession game, right,

(08:58):
for all that you saw and certainly social media response.
I was in hanging out with it with my daughters.
We were in a in a restaurant and I was
really annoying the people around me. I ended up having
to buy him dessert because I felt bad. I just
and I I think it was a first date kind
of situation to where I was making it really uncomfortable
by screaming on big play after big play. I was

(09:21):
think I was screwing the guy over a little bit
with my yelling killing his mood. That's obnoxious. Hey, you
came to a place where a bunch of TVs that
have sporting events on yelling. I'm an excitable guy when
it comes to my editor, doesn't matter. I would have

(09:43):
been annoyed to. But like, dude, who is this guy?
He's not eve been a fan of either team? No,
that's just it. I'm a fan of good, smash mouth football.
And that's when I got to see behind that Tennessee
offensive lie for John Harbaugh. Also the the question of
well what does this game mean on the ground scale.
I felt like this team was the best football team

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that it could be this year, you know, with the
with the with the group that we had. I thought
we made the most of of us becoming the best
football team it could be. We just weren't that today.
And that's the disappointing thing. Okay, that's that's great. Regular
season weren't the best best today? No, you weren't even
close to the best today. Just giving their credit, they
bludgeoned you as you went to what you did in

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the regular season doesn't matter, and that became part of
the big thing and like lamar Win m v P.
And that's fantastic. But this league, as we know, you
start counting wins and loss in the playoffs, those things
start to carry with you and the team doesn't get
another chot like this. Right, you're fourteen and two. This
might be the best chance you get. You're not promised

(10:47):
because I saw so many of the lazy takes. Look
and you want to prop guys up. I get it,
and maybe former teammates whatever, But we how many guys
have we seen have that shot early in their career
where everything was right because this team was healthy, right,
they didn't lose a lot of games to injury over
the course of the year to keep personnel, and you're

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gonna look at contracts. I mean, how much Leanda he
he might retire, right, he was talking about it before
this season and came back. Can you coax him back?
And is he the same guy? This is about as
as good at a run in a regular season as
you see. And you may never get another shot like this.
So all the hey, he's still gonna win multiple Super

(11:27):
Bowls any very well. May but in the moment, this
is really one that got away. And not only did
they lose, they got a punched in the mouth on
their home field. Yeah, but I feel like he can
only improve. Um, this team, especially offensively, Uh, still young,
still developing, and right, they did have a heck of
a year, but it's possible. I look at you know,

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last year when Mahomes had that unreal, you know, five
thousand and fifty touchdown type of season. He didn't have that.
This year. He dealt with adversity, he dealt with you know,
losing home games, he dealt with injuries. Um, but they
did improve in other areas on the team in terms
of bringing in Steve Spagnola and then bringing in the
honey Badger. Um, you know, getting guys. You got Brilian

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and you know, Frank Clark. You make those kind of acquisitions.
So it's they're gonna look at themselves and continue how
to improve because right, they are going to get every
single team's best shot next year because now we have
a legit full offseason on how to dissect this this team. Yeah,
and it goes to Logan Ryan talking about he even
got a nice Madden reference in and talking about how

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to defend this this offense and and how they stacked
up on the line of scrimmage, said go beat him right.
The only the only I mean, you have Andrews who
again he was on the injury report as well. Uh
and Hollywood Brown are your two receivers. Otherwise you get
Willie Snead and some others. So you can certainly make
upgrades on the outside as well. To further compliment Lamar

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Jackson's doing, just history in the NFL just says you
don't you don't always get that second shot right, and
you want to see when you've got something like this
potential greatness. Dr folks here in Los Angeles all the
time that fourteen and two Charger team all those years ago,
or Dan Marino in his second year get into his

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Super Bowl. It's like you may have a great career,
but you're not guaranteed to get back. And as we
go on, we'll see exactly what Hardball and company can
do four year three. Yeah, because only the other teams
are gonna catch up Cleveland Brown depends when he gets
a coach. They got talent, they can catch up. Steelers
not that far away. And I mean Bengals can turn
around one year depending on what they do. Curiosity, certainly everybody.

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ones and twos, Vince our executive producer, Isaac Lowenkron on
your updates, having some fun with you getting through uh
divisional round. We've got the n C Double a FI
final will be tomorrow night. It's gone quietly, Why because
two weeks have passed since we actually saw football? Is
that not acidine? At some point it just goes into

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the ether and you go, oh, yeah, there's a game
that's a that's a that's a big game though, that
that's an important one, that's probably the most exciting game
of the whole weekend. Yeah, we will get to that
as the show develops. Uh. The NFL being king around
these parts, and certainly yesterday, you know the old line.
You know, if you come with the King, your best

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not miss well for the Baltimore Ravens, they were on
top of the mountain for the regular season. The King, Henry, well,
we're did mess it up. I'm sorry, so call you
a shot. I mean Earl Thomas and company. They had

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a lot to say starting the week. So I think
Tenny I probably doing like seventeen seventeen times last game, uh,
for like seventy five yards in the playoff game and
they still one. You know, that's that's the critic to
how hard he's running in their old line. He's a
cutback runner, He's very patient, he'll find creases, and God
didn't seem like they were too interested in tackling them.
So I think our mindset is a little different. I

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think we're gonna try to tackle me, gonna just trying
to swarm uh and we're gonna see how how it
plays out in theory. In theory, that worked pretty well,
but the super cuts of Earl Thomas avoiding any at
all contact with Derrick Henry downfield a few times. But
here's the different here. Okay, here's the issue of of

(16:38):
me now being on this side and the media side,
is you see what people do and say yes, he
said that New Englon didn't seem too interested. He said
we are going to try. Yeah, we're going to try
and swarm. He did not say we're going to do
this like they forget all that, They forget to put

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all that. Just like the whole the whole Irison thing,
the practice, you know we toalld more proudly. Well, every
coach now uses that to tell their players don't be
like him. Well that that that's not wasn't the narrative.
The whole thing was he just came back from you know,
his best he lost one of his closest friends, and
he was like, you guys are coming at me about practice,

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when when I just when I just lost somebody important
to me, and you guys are talking about practice. That
was the whole thing. Earl said, I'm gonna try. He
tried and got shoved down the field. Other guys tried.
It's different man, when that Matt truck is coming through
the line of scrimmage. And it was the funny thing
about Derrick Henry too, is that he's he's been doing

(17:44):
this his entire life. In high school he was the
same size. I think he ran for over four thousand
yards his senior year. Pretty ridiculous. We've seen a couple
of takes of guys when the last couple of years, like,
look at what this guy's doing in high school and
you try to equate it. He's doing it. He's always
he's always been a home run hitter, you know, in

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football and obviously at Bama and and still doing it.
So that that's why it's funny. It's it's gosh, get
out the way guys. Well, but it's the old opportunity
to find some built bulletin board material. Because they certainly
heard it in the Tennessee locker room, and Derrick Henry
addressed it post game. We're gonna do too much talking.
We're just gonna work and believe in each other. And

(18:27):
that's our mentality, you know, we will come out here
and work. That's that's how my st focus all finish
talk blank Earl was the last part of it. You know,
everybody finds their methods to get themselves ready. I mean
Tannehill only had to attempt four team passing. Derrick Henry
had one of the nice jump bats touchdown as it

(18:48):
rolls to Ryan Tannehill, so he accounts for three touchdowns
only eighty eight passing yards. But you know, we can
all talk theories, you gotta go out and do it. Yeah,
especially the tight ends. What I like about them as
they are not just playing these games and hoping to win.
They truly believe wholeheartedly that they were going to beat
New England, that they were going to go into Baltimore
and beat Baltimore Like this is the most this is

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the most dangerous team because they're not intimidated from anyone
at all, and they're playing like it. Well, all of
a sudden, we started thinking about Tennessee takes on the
winner of Kansas City Houston latter day, and we'll preview
that game as the show develops. But I like their odds.
Suddenly looking at Ryan Tannehill going back to Miami looks

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like a pretty good formula against these two teams that
that will be one of the challengers. Yeah, I mean,
I like I said, I like their chances. I keep
being redundant about them, reminding us of the two eleven
Giants team, but right now they're built for all of
that stuff. There's nothing that they can't do offensively, There's

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nothing that they can't do. Defensively. They have all the
right pieces in the right places, um to make the
right place especially you look on defense, um just an aggressive,
stout defensive line. They got really smart linebackers, and they
have two veteran safeties in Kenny macaro and Kevin Bayer
that always in the right spots at the right time.
They both had a pick yesterday. And then offensively, you know,

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you have a veteran quarterback in Tannehill who's right now
just earned himself a bunch of money. You have, you know,
the the leading rusher and Henry, and then you got
receiver outside who's just phenomenal and tight ends that are
just showing up on it anywhere making miraculous plays. I mean,
they're they're they're built for it. It's funny because as

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the season started, go back all the way to August,
I like them to win the division based on a
lot of what you just said, thinking that Mariota would
have Delaney Walker and he'd be an eight ninety catch guy.
And with Derrick Henry, that with the Derrick Henry we've
gotten to see, right because he was was the jury.
It was still out. For Mario. It was the thing.

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He's like, yeah, you we could look at every other
thing on that team, but the jury was still out.
He was. It was him and Jamis like, what's going on?
Inextricably linked forever because I definitely did not have Tennessee
went in the division at all. I had, you know,
even with Luck Levin. I thought the Colts had enough.
I thought they were a wild card. Yeah, but you
know they had a lot of injuries. Yeah, certainly beset

(21:25):
by injuries across the board, saffold Luan. I mean, look
at that offensive line and what they've been able to
do and and put together with Ryan Tannehill. As you say, man,
we got a lot of shuffling going on in the
quarterback position this year. There's a guy that playing with
house money, as it were, right, because there wasn't a
lot of pressure when he took that job over. It

(21:47):
was right. I've been saying that too, like just if
you are the backup, you go in there, you can
do no wrong. You can't. I mean this this he
wakes he expectations right. For him, it was either I
extend my run right and I probably buy myself two
years on the back end of a career. If I play,
if I show anything, you'd be a service will backup
for a while, right I get to hold a clipboard,

(22:08):
make some more money as a backup, or like this,
Now you're probably looking at what a franchise tag he's
back in the running, right right, A franchise tag probably
to say, hey, let's show me it again, or do
they pay him? This is this is this is multi
year where this is not this is not tagworthy. This
is okay, you know, because you know he's he's been

(22:28):
to the playoffs with the Dolphins before and you know,
earned himself a contract there, so he I mean, he
what else do you need to see? A couple of
four thousand yards season? I know something you and I
both picked up on Twitter, Emmanuel, Oh my gosh, who
just laid the hammer on Adam Gaze? Something I've talked
about with Jason Smith a little bit because he is

(22:50):
a Jets fan, needling him along the way as guys
who used to work under Adam Gates go and have success.
But a manual just flat out laid him out now
with a hook. I didn't accum I didn't see it. Earlier.
It was Oh my gosh, it was super impressive, because,
first of all, I made watch it was a great job.
I think he's one of the most fantastic guys on

(23:12):
on TV. But man, did he ever talk them certainly
growing growing his voice. Here here was the tweet for
those that missed it. Imagine a coach who convinced us
that Ryan Tannehill, Kenyan Drake and DeVante Parker were no good.
You give him another head coaching job and letting him
convince us that Levy on Bell and Sam Donald aren't

(23:34):
that good. I wish you luck Jets. Yeah, and he
forgot to add Jervis Lantry and that oh yeah, throw
and throw him at the bigs. Who was the only
guy of certainty and consistency in that Cleveland offense. I
mean he and Nick Chubb right with Baker Mayfield doing
Baker Mayfield things. How about that? There you go, and

(23:54):
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big day for the victorious Forts next. But first it's
Isaac Glowan Crown with what's trending? Good morning, Michael and Will.

(24:37):
On Saturday night, the Tennessee Titans shocked the world, not
just winning at number one seed Baltimore in the a
f C Divisional Playoffs, but dominating them to twelve. Derrick
Henry ran for a hundred ninety five yards and for
good measury through a jump pass touchdown pass to Corey Davis.
This after running for one eight two in their wild

(24:58):
card victory over the New England Page it's Lamar Jackson meanwhile,
thirty one of fifty nine for three sixty five a
touchdown past but two interceptions. You know, um, yeah, well
I had a lot of mistakes. Might we have three
turnovers that shouldn't happen, but you know they came out
to play. You know, we just started off slow. You
just gotta do better next time. But moving forward, get

(25:19):
rid of for the all season didn't gifinition. We also
had a great moment before the game. On the CBS
television pregame show, Bill Cower, finalists for the Pro Football
Hall of Fame, was holding court on the air when
he was surprised by an unexpected guest, Listen Jackson. Yeah, yes, special,
and you know, Bill, there's something else special here. Hey,

(25:41):
who's this big fella? I'm sorry, you bet you sorry, man.
I was trying to knock on the door back there,
but you don't have a door. Knock it down, knock hey, coach,
your viewers out there who don't know. I'm David Baker,
princil in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. I want
to thank you all you've done for the game, for

(26:02):
all you're gonna do for the game, and I want
to welcome you to Canton, Ohio. Great surprise moment. Earlier Saturday,
the forty Niners advanced of the NFC Championship Game with
an to ten victory over the Minnesota Vikings. And Michael
and Will we have a PostScript to last night's stunning

(26:25):
victory by the Titans in Baltimore. That's from Joe rex Road, Oh,
my guy who covers the Titans for the Athletics. So
this morning there was a commercial flight from Baltimore to
Nashville filled with Titans fans and the flight was delayed
because the pilot's chair was broken, and so they had

(26:50):
to take all the Titans fans off the plane, and
the gate agents said out in the terminal as they
were waiting for them to bring out a new plane, quote,
the reason why this is happening is because you guys
beat us yesterday. Okay, ma'am put that Titans flag down. Unquote.
What have you ever heard of a play a flight

(27:11):
being delayed because the pilot's chair was broken. I'm just
saying that's pretty impressive. Well, the fact that the gated
attendant then says that I gotta feel like they'll be
handing out a bunch of vouchers he was maybe he
was watching the game on the flight and ripped his
chair off because he was furious when all Incredible Hulk
went all incredible Hulk. Raven's gonna used him, then we'll

(27:36):
played Ilo thanks Aazac a little bit of flavor there,
and he mentioned Bill Cower Pro Football Hall of Famer. Surprise,
David Baker comes out one sixty one in his career.
Can I be that guy? I feel like Book Howard
knew he was there, his family was there. It seems

(27:57):
seem when when when David Barry came out, I was like, man,
I got so emotional. I was like, this is cool.
And then I saw his family that I'm like, oh wait,
why are they there? Maybe they come to work every weekend.
Maybe maybe it's like a free trip. Maybe they do that.
I don't know, maybe that's part of his contract. I
don't know anyhow, but I kind of thought the same
thing at the end of the day to this super cool,

(28:18):
well deserved my brother as a die hards Steelers fans.
So I definitely got to learn all about the history
of the Steelers, you know, way back with you know,
Levon Kirkland and Greg Lloyd. And actually I went to
I took our kids to a reptile convention, uh last weekend,
and I ran into Chad Brown. Chad who who does

(28:41):
that as part of his Yeah, she shipps reptile. He
has a shipping company, and he was there and that
was cool. I really never go up to introduce myself
to anybody, but if I'm like a huge football fan,
you know, me being the historian, I said, what's up
to him? And he knew how it wasn't That was cool? Yeah,
shout out and see how so that's all going. I

(29:02):
used see Chad with some regularity, So there you go.
Used to be up around these parts. But yeah, really cool.
Yeah part of you know the guys we watched growing up.
I mean, that'll make for a great bust. And he
got hired at thirty four years old. Well and I
mean they then followed up Mike Tomblin, right, but same age.
So and as we know the Steelers, you get your

(29:23):
run you know before before I mean for Color. He
decided to move on after the tragedy in his personal
life and has had a great run at CBS. So
congratulations to him. We'll see what the next iteration. Some
folks wondering if David Baker isn't going to be on
the Fox lot coming to hang out with Jimmy Johnson.

(29:43):
We'll see if that comes to fruition is you know
something I don't know. I don't know, just speculating, Will,
I don't know. You were on a lot more recently
than I was. I mean, I don't know. Don't have
any cakes hanging out or any craziness going on back stage.
Now I'm gonna keep quiet. In other words, something's cooking.

(30:05):
Uh at Will Black is where you find him on
Twitter and Instagram. Uh NFL wine guy as well. Find
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(30:27):
We mentioned the you know bulletin board material with air
quotes around it from Earl Thomas, one guy who's never
gonna get short changed in giving you an opinion. Sometimes
you can go back through this browder film and prove
him wrong. There was no proving him wrong. Yesterday's Richard
Sherman had himself one whale of a game, and we
always know come playoff time he's ready to perform. And

(30:49):
if you want to short him in your analysis of
the game, He's not gonna let you. I get tired
of hearing, oh, man, he's his own corner. I get
tired of hearing the excuses for why I'm great. It
was man coverage. I covered the man. I picked the
ball off. In the playoffs and big games, I show up.
I show up year in year out, whether it's two
thousand and eleven, two thousand and twelve, two thousand thirteen,
two thousand and fourteen, unless I tear my achilles. I'm

(31:10):
out there and I'm doing my job at a high level,
and I think I get tired of the excuses, you know,
for why why I'm good. Oh my god, they're playing
he's on, Oh my god, it was this guy. Oh
my god, receiver slipt, Oh my god. It's it's like,
why why don't other people who get those outs there?
You know what I mean, There's a lot of other
corners out there who have the same outs I have.
You know, It's it's odd, It's it's it's like people
got frustrated that I was so confident early on in

(31:33):
my career. I was so confident early on so that
people wanted me to fail, and when I didn't fail,
it's like, how do we tear him down in other ways?
How do we find a way to tear him down?
You know, I mean, how do we find a way
to rip this game apart? Because I'm too consistent on
a year in year of out basis. You know, since
I got in the league, every category that matters to
a corner, I'm number one in I believe he said,
I like that. I like that After intercepting the ball,

(31:54):
uh and starting to run the other way, UH big
plays like there's there's no doubting the man's career, and
a lot of what he says is true. Listen, this
is I'm gonna defend Richard here. So I remember when
I first uh got signed by Seattle until I wasn't

(32:14):
thirteen for the for the office in training camp. I
remember on my way there, I was like, I am
so curious to see what Richard Sherman is like because
all we know is he's out there going crazy, running
his mouth, talking trash. Don't But what I learned is
is that Sherm all he does, He's just he's just

(32:36):
collecting data. He's collecting quotes, He's collected all his information.
He never initiates the beef, like he won't go out
of his way to talk trash to somebody to like
out of nowhere, Like something has to, you know, make
him move, Something has to move him emotionally to say something.

(32:59):
So if you do say something about him, then it's
on and it's on for the rest of your life.
It will never end. I'm telling you he has receipts.
He's like, he's like Sonic running around collecting all those
coins and then as soon as you hit him with

(33:19):
a spike out I'm telling you so and also to it.
And you know I remember too. He are talking to
coach Gus Bradley when he was the defensive coordinator at
the time before Dan Quinn took over, and Shermon was like,
you gotta let me. You have to let me respond
to let me run my mouth like he tried to

(33:39):
convince him, and Gus was like, that's not I don't
want you to do that. E goes. Trust me, he said,
because right now we have a talented team and nobody
is watching the Seattle Seahawks like no one's watching us
right now, no one cares. You have to let me
do my thing. And Gus was like, all right, I'll
trust you. Seemed to work out pretty well for all.

(34:01):
But think about it, like the quote we just heard,
don't you ever talk about me? Right, because something happened
in the off season where crab she says something about Richard.
What's Richard saying? Now? You know people saying this, people
saying that, people saying that. So yeah, he's gonna go
up there run his mouth. Tom Brady says something came
after after the game, you mad, bro. Everything is a response,

(34:25):
is never initiative, but yes, it's like if you slap him,
then he's going to get a weapon and go after you. Well,
it's just funny, right because because as you went through
this year and broke down the San Francisco defense, you're
trying to figure out what's fantastic across the board. So
he becomes the guy that I guess if you're gonna say, well,

(34:48):
where's their week weak link? He's older, whatever, But it's
usually not about his play. At least for this year,
it seemed in relativity to everything else going on with
that defense him, it was never about him athletically, and
he'll tell you that himself. He goes, I'm not. I'm
not about to run af for four or three. I'm
not gonna do anything miraculous. By the way, Watford discore,

(35:11):
thank you forty two minutes in one nil. I'm not
gonna do anything miraculous of athletically. But he said, mentally,
I know what every single receiver is going to do.
I know what the offense is gonna do. I know
the coordinators, tendencies. I know all this stuff. And I
remember sitting in the back in the meeting room. I

(35:32):
would sit like two desks away from him, and while
Christian Shard is going over the game plan on the board,
Sherman is literally glued to his iPad watching everything. He's
the only corner besides Charles Woodson. I know that would
be at the corner and yelling formations, routes, stunts, shifts
from the opposite side. It's impressive. That's why he's still playing.

(35:55):
If you can learn mentally, you'll play a long time.
We'll go back into that game a little bit coming
up next here on the program. As you you break
down just the level of domination. Uh, and what does
it say? You know, maybe they celebrated to early. We'll
talk about that next he's Will black Man. I'll Mike Rmen.
This is Fox Football Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. Don't

(36:16):
listening to Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back in Fox Sports Radio.
This is Fox Football Sunday. Mike Carmen alongside Will black
Man having some fun with you. We got some live
action on the pitch, a couple of games going. You're
Watford getting after it one, Neil, you know what Tennessee
might be hearing this music in South Beach some pit bull.

(36:40):
You decide whether you're going in yet. I don't know yet.
I'm only going. I'm going if I'm working. I'm not
gonna go to South Beach to hang out. Just to
hang out. Yeah, I don't. I don't know. I mean,
I'm gunna. I guess I can go down there and
share wine, but I'm not. I'm old. Get that media
credit one. Just go station to station. I used to.

(37:02):
I actually used to live down there for a while ago,
back in like oh seven o eight. I was a
soft Beach resident. That's because I lived in Green Bay
and I need it. I needed a complete opposite. That's
why when when the season was over and winner arrived,
it was time to fly south and That's what I did.

(37:22):
A lot of guys think about that, certainly as their
seasons come to an end. As you roll through and
we have the first two of our divisional games, so
gods will be booking flights to their vacations unless they
need to come back for super Bowl Week two for
sponsors and different business arrangements. Right hit radio Row and
some of the festivities down there. Our crew from Fox

(37:44):
Sports Radio, they'll have you covered pillar to post all
during Super Bowl Week. I know we've got some folks
getting ready to cover the National Championship game tomorrow night
coming up in about ten minutes from now. We'll get
into that. The attempt to hype a game kind of
has fallen to the ways. I mean, it's huge implications
right the right. But for Dabbo Sweeney and his career.

(38:10):
You talk about Trevor Lawrence, Joe Burrow, the presumptive number
one pick, all of these things come to a head
and everybody's favorite head coach, let's play what the hell
did he just say? It's at oderon. But going back
to that Minnesota San Francisco game, a complete dismantling by
the San Francisco defense, that first possession our second possession

(38:32):
for the Vikings. Right, they respond well, three and out
to get out, to get things started. Forty Niners go
eight play sixty one yards and a score. You get
the bounce back right away. Hey, seven seventy nine a touchdown,
A big pass play forty one yards Stefon Diggs. We
got ourselves a ball game. No sixty eight total yards

(38:55):
the rest of the way for Minnesota. Seven first downs
early escaping, tying for the fewest first downs in history.
No chance at all to get Dalvin Cook in the
run game, which was the only thing against the forty
Niners all year that teams potentially could at least win

(39:16):
a little down in distance to hang for a bit.
Will Yeah this, Uh, I saw it going this way.
I thought it was a great win, a great statement
win for Kirk Cousins last week. Um. You know, they
always wanted to see him make the play when it mattered, Um,
in key moments in a hostile and environment versus another

(39:36):
Hall of Fame quarterback, to put himself in that elite category.
You know, I know he's driving for that, but I
just knew San Francis had too much, especially way too
much offensively. Everyone everyone offense gonna touch the ball in
Shanahan's offense. And then defensively, you had that front line,
the front four up there, and you have an intelligent
secondary and you know, a really smart and tough linebacker crew.

(39:59):
So it's I knew they wouldn't go in there and
not do well under duress. And the question is did
they celebrate it too much after last week because it
seemed like it was almost a Super Bowl victory. Well,
you're excited that was that was That's a tough place
to win, and they did beat Drew Brees and company.
I argued on the show with Jason Smith that I

(40:19):
want to know why New Orleans gets a pass every
year Drew Brees eight and eight and as a playoff quarterback,
or Andy Read gets to pass every year. We'll talk
about him and he's well black. But I'm Mike Carmen.
This is Fox Sports Radio. Why are we hyping the
title game next on Fox? Don't listening to Fox Sports
Locked and Loaded? Here hour or two of the program. Greetings,

(40:41):
welcome man, Happy Sunday to you Fox Football Sunday. Mike Carmen,
alongside Super Bowl champion twelve years in the league, will
Blackman at NFL Wine Guy on Twitter. A big day yesterday.
You know, when you you sit down and watch these games,
will you got a notebook or are you just drinking
a glass of wine and chilling? Hi? I am. I

(41:02):
had two bottles of wine yesterday. Actually nicely done two games.
Long games. Man. Well that's just it. You gotta pace yourself.
I mean, you know the drink per hour and all
that stuff. All. I literally did absolutely no no work yesterday,
no business. We were outside. It was a gorgeous day
out here in southern California. Were outside with my wife

(41:24):
and kids, and we were playing Shout out to my wife,
shawna um and we were just playing outside. And then
once the game started, I made a cool you know,
cheeseboard and some wine for my wife and now we
sat by the fire and watched the first game and
then um, then I relaxed on the couch and watched
the second game, and I had a glass of wine

(41:45):
in my hand. Um maybe for about but eight hours.
That's living right man, that is finding your wins right there. Yeah.
I was like, I was like, I'm shutting today down,
doing nothing nothing. I got a big hike in or
really my daughter and I took the dog out and
we went down. There's a great resort area here in

(42:06):
southern California called Tarrana, So we didn't did the hike there,
met up with a lot of dogos, sweat and sat
on the rocks, saw a lot of dolphins. One of
those things I'm trying to make myself stop and recognize
the greatness that's all around you, and you being more
venturous and going outdoors and hiking. You know, that's that's
fitness in itself. Well, the road to Quadzilla begins with

(42:26):
that first step. But yeah, yeah, wine was an important
tool in my preparation when I was playing, Is that right? Yeah?
I had had great music, had a glass of wine,
and had my film and a notebook. So I guess
sitting down watching football with the glass of wine just
mentally puts me in the state to receive more information

(42:49):
when watching I did that. I can buy it. You
were in the league twelve years. Who's gonna not buy that? Yeah,
I mean you could. You can now take that on
the road and sell it in locker rooms national what Hey,
guys get drunk will not be doing that. And I
don't know that you want to put it that way.
We can probably massage that message message a little bit

(43:10):
there well, but certainly that can be received. Have like
a reasoning where you know you might get between eight
and alcohol. Don't go ahead and he said, wilso have wine.
You get a big cab that's alcohol, and you you're
fried by the first quarter of the game you watched.
Just as long as they've taken away any of your

(43:31):
function to hit send on social media. That's the one
part of the I didn't start doing that. I was
like nine. I was I was a grown man by then.
There you go. Later on, we'll watch a couple of
NFL games, right, a bunch of grown ass men getting
after it. But the segue being we've got the college
final tomorrow night, right, two teams that will take their

(43:53):
final exams. As it were, off of fantastic season. The
Clemson tied, I mean Kers are gonna win? Right, it's
the old joke, who were gonna who are we? The Wildcats?
Who are gonna eat the Wildcats? Insert the tigers here.
Climbs in a five and a half point underdog in
this one to Joe Burrow at Oorderon and Company. And

(44:13):
as we were talking in the offices here and around
the hallways. The hype, there's an excitement for the game itself,
but the build up just hasn't been there. And for
college football, I think for a lot of the year,
because we're getting into that here's the presumptive what four
or six eight teams that can compete for a title
when we're coming out of August, it makes the regular

(44:37):
season just more like a preliminary exercise Oftentimes. I think
that I believe for this game, the build up is
there just because of who is in the game, um L,
s Hue and Clemson. I believe it's there. There's right now,
there's just an important football going on at the professional level.
But as soon as these games finish up today, you

(44:58):
better believe that it's it's going to be all about
this national championship game, which I am thoroughly looking forward to.
I wasn't really um I felt like college football this
year was kind of you know, so so for me
because it's like, you know, you have certain teams that
are gonna end up being in the playoffs, so you know, basically,
I guess you watch your school and if your school

(45:20):
is not doing well, then it kind of is what
it is for me. Yeah, BC did not have a
great season, so it was kind of worthless for me
to watch so much college football. And so once the
playoffs started, that's kind of where I really buckled down.
I was like, Okay, this is where like the real
football is going to happen. Um. And for for Clemson
l s U to be the two teams, um, that's

(45:41):
that is definitely exciting, both standing here at fourteen and now.
I mean, like your Boston College Northwestern had uh struggles,
would be the kind way to put you used to
have your head coach path of Gerald didn't go anywhere. Yeah,
see we lost it, as you know, but we got
Jeff Hafley from a house state, which was exciting. Nice
pick up right part of the playoff run as it were, right,

(46:02):
so they at least we're in the dance and you
can say, all right, we build off that because that's
athletic last year, and now we've got to do our
head coaches from a hostit which is coaching. Yeah, there
you go, That's what I'm talking about, one one after another.
All right, you getting that that laundry truck and you
become part of our staff next year. Uh, smuggling them

(46:23):
out the back door. But to your point, I mean,
for me, it became about the Big Ten. Alright, what's
Wisconsin doing, Penn State for a long part of the season,
and of course Ohio State watching for representation. Right, you
start playing conference games and say, all right, my team
is not going to a meaningful bowl. We didn't go
to a bowl at all this year. So it becomes

(46:44):
scoreboard watching, watching what p. J. Fleck was doing in Minnesota,
and just the curiosity of teams rising ferens and what
Iowa was able to do. And then from the national perspective,
you always have an eye on Alabama and l s
U and what they were doing. And certainly with a
lot of what we do here at Fox Sports Radio
will focused on the NFL. It became very important to

(47:06):
watch every throw from Joe Burrow and to dissect every
throw that Joe Burrow made. As the season warre on, Yeah,
it has and and for Joe Burrow, um, it's been
a joy to watch. Has been impressive. He has he
has that that calmness of of like Todd Brady, where
he literally sat there and everything wasn't slow motion. So um,

(47:26):
especially for that I guess what which I guess I'm
trying to say is the road and the SEC is
is way more challenging, and that Joe Burrow and the
Alicia Tigers have delivered every time. But you know, I
we were talking um during break about you know, certain
teams having a weaker schedules, what have you. Yeah, I
felt like Clemson's road, uh to this situation through the

(47:49):
a SEC was a breeze for them. I mean, they
that that was not a competitive um conference at all
by any means whatsoever. However, you know, they got into
the playoffs and they handled a business against a strong
Ohio State team. Right, you have the one year stumble
against North Carolina, but otherwise, even with a slow start

(48:12):
by Trevor Lawrence and Clemson standards, once they got rolling,
it was all just are we healthy come playoff time?
And and and they and with they're back to back titles.
I mean they showed that, Okay, regardless of our road,
we still are a really good team because they went
in and handled business against Alabama. Yeah, and that's that's
the hard process, right And for Davos Sweeney, for people

(48:35):
I know that went to or around Clemson, like while
we're beating who's on the schedules. And yes, you can't
predict from the non conference if you're playing what are
traditionally quality schools, you can't predict when they're in a
down year. But we do know that in all conferences
there's gonna be a couple of week opponents. The a
c C had nothing to offer this year, So you

(48:59):
have to wear some of that criticism and just got
a shrug and say, hey, that that's what it is.
They don't I don't think they even wear it. It's like,
it is what it is. They It's like, let's just
get to the playoffs period. Let's just when these games
get to the playoffs. It reminds me of I was
watching the America's game the Niners. I can watch that

(49:20):
over and over and over again, and Steve Young was
talking about the robbery versus the Cowboys, and they were like, yeah,
we we got the schedule, we got you know, the Saints,
and we got you know the players teams. But like Dallas,
they know it's it comes, it's gonna come down to
us to period. But it don't matter who's on the schedule.

(49:40):
It's like when playoff time comes, it's gonna come down
to one of us, and that's how that matters. So yeah,
we're gonna look past everybody else because we know that
that's where football matters, and and Clemson knew the whole
time that's what they had to get to and that
they were gonna handle business. You got to get back
to the dance, right, Yeah, just just get back. So
Travis at t end he's probably the guy. I mean,

(50:00):
obviously we look a lot at Trevor Lawrence passing yards
thirty six and eight, the ratio touchdown to interception at
the end, nearly two thousand total yards. As we roll,
we we look at Joe Burrow, uh and the L
s U. Tigers. I think it comes down to the

(50:21):
Clemson linebacking corps making plays here and stopping the yak. Yeah,
because there's I mean Clemson's I mean L s Ues
in the Mornorcy. We wouldnt even really get the ball
um the last game. And so here's what's funny. Is
as dominant and as physical as L. S U is,

(50:42):
there's just something about Clemson the fact that they have
been there before and they have done it. You know
that they're figuring a way we can talk about the
the fumble um that was overturned of Gental House State.
We can talk about the targeting, but then Clempson still
made their plays. I mean, they had what three explosive

(51:03):
plays where it was just really bad tackling, like for
Trevor Lawrence to take off six or five yards that
shouldn't have happened. You know, Etam was wide open on
one of the past possession happened his long run, should
have made the tackle and then you had a chance
to make a play and justin Fields through a pick
at the end of the game. They made the plays
when they need to make them in the crucial times,
and and that's what playoff football on all scales, that's

(51:26):
what it's all about. It's it's not so much about
um just being the overall better team is just making
the right place at the right time. And that's why
I picked them to win. They've been there, they've done
that and in the big moments when they should have
been buried, but sometimes they didn't step on their throat.
But for every I feel like, for every person that

(51:47):
you feel like you can defeat, there is also somebody
for you. And there's just something about Joe Burrow on
this team. This is something well, I think there's something
about Trevor that's just it. I mean, he's a guy
that we're already having the conversation. If he wins the title,
does he you know, sit out and play video games
for a year? Absolutely? Go sit at would like, what

(52:09):
do you You don't need to play anymore games? Just
go chill, right, get to go chill for a year.
Just go throw, play catch, go train, rest your body,
rest your mind, go serve that. Bring that up. I'm
not even kidding. I'm not kidding either. Unless he wants
a Heisman, then sure I go for it. How much
is that worth versus that first contract? And in him? Right?

(52:31):
You saw you saw to his hip, right, it's gonna
be a big question. He'll still get drafted early, But
what does that mean? Vibe where everything he's gonna be
on that that physical table, getting you know, evaluated by
all thirty two doctors, gonna be poked in product like
it's you know, that's the about the Aliens is that

(52:54):
the worst part of the whole process. That was the
worst part of the whole process. I had to I
had like a grade two shoulder separate and I left
that physical at the combine with out my arm. Okay,
so you have to bring like a stack of like men.
They have all the information and it's funny like. So

(53:16):
there would be like ten doctors standing around the table.
This is at the combine, maybe twelve or fifteen right,
one doctor evaluate I would do the whole strength test
for my shoulder. He wants to see how it is,
Is there any scarring? Do I have any the proper strength?
Strength and know? These docts will take notes. Apparently, the

(53:36):
next doctor is like, let me do the strength test.
I want to see for myself. And then the next
doctor wants to see I'm like, what is going on here?
By the fifteenth time, it's like I've already a noodle arm. Yeah.
And so then after that they go out and they're like, hey,
uh black men, you're up for bench. I was like,
I'm not bench person today? Like why not? I was like,

(53:58):
because my arm is hanging off. He's like, oh, that's
not gonna look good if you don't bench press. I
was like, okay, do you want me to run a
four four or bench thirty two times? You pick? He
was like, oh, that's a good point. I'm like, yeah,
thank you, I could you not. That was a legit
conversation I had about the guy just that fast. Yeah,
it's not gonna look good out on bench press. I
was like, dude, I'll run a four four, don't worry

(54:19):
about my bench I was so annoyed, all so annoyed.
I can see the look out your face. You're going
back to that place right now in that conversation. But
why do all two doctors have to evaluate my shoulder.
I don't believe those other guys. I want to see
it from. I don't trust him that he didn't do
the right strength test. So let's do the exact same

(54:39):
strength and then not only that, you had to go
to the hospital and take about seventy five Mr Eyes. Okay,
I was radioactive man when I left. That would make
me fall out. Boy, Okay. I had a drink like
seventeen glasses of Clorella because apparently I gets rid of

(54:59):
all at radiation Clorella. Never heard of that. Wrote it down. Hey,
there's a lot of things you say over the course
of the show. I got random notes to my wife Shawna.
She knows all these things about radiation and health, and
he's will black Man, I'm my car. We're having fun

(55:19):
with you. Fox Football Sunday, National Title Game. Gonna have
some fun and oderon obviously a big story here in
Southern California as well as people get ready for the
next round of Clay Hilton at Will Blackman on Twitter
at NFL wine Guy, as well find me over at
Swollen Dome we get back into the NFL coming up
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(55:43):
you on Fox Sports Radio, don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Fox Sports Radio, Mike Garment alongside Will black Men Fox
Football Sunday having some fun with you as we turn
our attention to the Sunday game. Is in the National
Football leag two gems yesterday. If you're a forty Niner fan,

(56:05):
you got everything you expected and then some from your defense.
Jimmy g didn't have to be the hero yesterday. Will
just like we've been talking about Ryan Tannehill, make the
plays you need to make and don't turn the ball over.
Succeed and proceed, Succeed and proceed, and that's that's been
there thing the whole season. It's um, it's one one week,

(56:26):
it could be Jimmy holds it down one week, it
could be the defense that holds it down. You know,
that's team ball. You go back to the Steelers game,
five turnovers and nine as still win, and then you
go to the Arizona game where they can't stop Kyler Murray,
but Jimmy gets it done. Then the New Orleans game,

(56:50):
defense can't stop a nosebleed, Jimmy gets it done. Yeah,
it's it's been an interesting year watching it flow. And
Jimmy had gotten paid and we talked about his contract
a hunt. So we we got that that flowing as
we moved to the next round as they get ready
to host the winner of Seattle Green Bay. We'll talk
about that game coming up about seven eight minutes from now.

(57:12):
But Houston Kansas City, the Texans trying to be that
next a f C South team to come through. And
as much as we talked about Patrick Mahomes and his
brilliance a year ago, a little bit of Andy Reid
and his playoff lack of success. For the kind way
to say it this week was owned by a Bill
O'Brien soundclip got excitable with a fan when they were

(57:42):
getting absolutely bludgeoned by Drew Lock and the Denver Broncos
thirty one first half points allowed. So you have that
interaction with a fan and if players are gonna wear it, well, coach,
when he gets gets into it with a fan, he's
got to wear it too. You saw DeAndre Hopkins come
over and be like, come on, coach, what do we do?
What do we do it? Get it together right? But

(58:03):
for Bill O'Brien, a guy who's I don't know other
than Jason Garrett that a guy has been sitting on
a hot seat longer than Bill O'Brien in terms of
where the media and fans are for coaching, and week
after week and we saw it again last week. Will
Is Deshaun watch to keep saving his bacon. Yeah, when
when you got a guy, uh like Deshaun Watson, you

(58:26):
definitely are are blessed and thankful um for that to happen.
But um yeah, I mean it's it's it's funny to me.
My thing is like this, this is what we signed
up for. We we signed up for this, uh, this
profession where you're gonna get heckled, You're gonna get you know,
screamed at and yelled at, you know, someone asked me

(58:46):
the other day or no, a few weeks ago, basically
how he was like, how can you handle the d
C media? How do you handle certain people? How do
you handle My wife always asked, I don't know how
you do it on social media? How you handle all
that stuff? And I just said you, I just embrace it.
Everyone's emotional. I get it. Well, that's the whole point
is that their fans, right and short for fanatics. You've

(59:09):
heard it a million times, but you're hoping that you're content,
whether you're on air right when you sit with Colin
or what you and I do here at Fox Sports Radio,
or you're on social media, that it's resonating right, positive negative.
The worst thing you can have is someone read your
tweet and just goes right. You don't need to engage
all the time, but you want some kind of response, right,

(59:31):
I guess so, and that regards. But you know, sometimes
they just win when that happens. If someone's running their
mouth at you on social media or even in the game,
and you scream back at them, and then they can
go to my friends like, hey man, Bill O'Brien, yeoed
at me. Oh that's cool, and in a lot of cases,

(59:52):
especially when you come with the O'Brien thing, it's like
you're validating what I've just screamed at you, because clearly
something's in your head and you're struggling with whatever this
is that I've hit at some route to where you
you've heard the criticism either before or in your own head.
There's something you know didn't happen, right, And then that
first half they got obliterated. Let it go. So as

(01:00:16):
we as we moved forward, I mean, the big thing
for Houston, and we we chuckled about it. We've done
this show now since the middle of the season, weekend
week out for the Houston Texans. It's the riddle me
this batman. Is Will Fuller gonna play right now? It
looks like he's ready to go. Darren Fells, Kenny Stills
also expected to go. And we know the metrics to

(01:00:38):
Shaun Watson and that offense runs to a nearly a touchdown.
Better when we'll Will Fuller's on the field offering the
deep threat for Deshaun Watson. This one is the game
of the week as as I looked at the four,
not that it's a mortal lock, because most would have
said that about Baltimore. But this was the one game

(01:00:58):
you look at and they'll win, I think, But I
don't know that they win convincingly. I think Houston, particularly
Deshaun Watson, one or two plays are gonna make the difference.
If Carlos Hide can get off a little in the
ground game, that's that's gonna be a big deal. Is
can they can they keep the homes off the field

(01:01:20):
if possible, long for attracted drives. Yeah, I mean, that's
that's what's gonna have to happen. Here's what Here's the
weird thing with the Texans is that we we try
to use our our data stats are tendencies in terms of,
you know, can they run the ball effectively to keep
my homes up the field? Can they get explosive plays?
Can they do this? Can they do that? And it's

(01:01:41):
like they may not do any of that. Kansas City
might score, you can score sixty five points, but something
is going to happen in the game throughout the game.
Where so will Houston because of DeShawn Watson making crazy plays.

(01:02:01):
I mean, Kansas City's defense second half of the year
must much better. Right, we saw a more consistent pass
right still have some questions Chris Jones as to his
availability and and even is he gonna be on a
snap count Travis Kelsey with some injuries as well. But
if you're the Houston secondary has been beatable, good chunk

(01:02:21):
of the year, man, how do you contain him when
he is on the field? What do you what do
you do to try to slow that that weapon down?
Just let him the homes? Yeah, well, I mean the
cool thing is you got J J. Wat back right,
and so his his presence alone is enough. I know.
The question was how healthy is gonna be? Is he
gonna really be effective? But when you're game planning, you

(01:02:42):
are going to game plan and watch off of him, So, um,
that is a huge deal. But the issue is that
there's there are so many weapons on this team that
could take over whatever they want. I mean, Micole Hardman
is the fastest guy I ever seen on He's pretty scary,
He's pretty yeah, and that's a guy you punch in
the face at the line of scrimmage right to get

(01:03:03):
him off his route. So you're not gonna be able
to hit him, you know what I mean, You're gonna
have to hug him and hopefully get like the legal
contact and that's that's it, just keeping a low in
contact against him. Um. And then the one thing that
has been going about going well too for them is
that Damian Williams has been hitting home runs in nine
yar runs, eight yr runs. He's been doing very well.
He has not been healthy earli in a year and

(01:03:26):
then came through for that and what name has been
getting healthier Shady McCoy. Right, They did some good load
management on it, Yeah, exactly. UM. So I just feel
like it's it's just too much offensively. And then on
the defensive side, we mentioned getting getting coached Bagnola. It
was a big deal. You know, get a coach with

(01:03:48):
some championship pedigree. Um, you may not be first in
any category. Um. Defensively, however, you know when you have
coach with that pedigree, he's he's good at situations. You know,
can you make the right place at the right situation.
And this is gonna be an interesting game. I feel
this is gonna be a wonderful revenge game for the

(01:04:11):
Honey Badger. You know, I know he wanted to stay
in Houston, and this is gonna be a game where
I'm gonna say he has two pigs. Look at that
double and a fumble recovery. He's walking away with three
turnovers taken over this game. That is what you call
a monstrous performance from the Honey Badger. I do look
to Kansas City to win the game, but I think
Houston keeps the close. I like that plus nine and

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Coming up, we look at the other side of the

(01:04:55):
bracket as we have the Seattle Seahawks on the road
at Green Bay. We'll had an update on the seven
hundred shovelers and whether they got paid out. But first
it's Isaac lowan crowd. What's trending? Yeah, you guys know
about that, right, They're only getting twelve bucks an hour.
I wouldn't I mean, if I could, I wouldn't pay
him a dime. And the seven guys are gonna show

(01:05:15):
up for nothing. That's true. And plus they have they
park in a lot six. But then when they're finished,
they have to get out of there so all the
fans can come for the game or else they're in trouble. Yeah,
they have to pay back the parking fee. That will
eat up that twelve bucks. An fast thought Midwest hospital
I expected a little bit bit more from Midwest hospitality
talking about Southern hospitality. Last night, that's what Derrick Henry

(01:05:40):
and the Tennessee Titans gave their fans. They took on
the a f C top seed Baltimore Ravens in Baltimore,
and Henry and the Titans dominated. So Henry, as you know,
ran for one two and their wild card win at
New England last week. Last night he ran for one
five is the Titans upset the Ravens in dominating and

(01:06:00):
stunning fashion to twelve. Baltimore head coach John Harball laments
I felt like this team was the best football team
that it could be this year, you know, with with
with a group that we had, I thought we made
the most of of us becoming the best football team
it could be. We just weren't that today and that's
the disappointing thing before the game. Great moment, as former

(01:06:23):
Steelers head coach and current CBS pregame studio analyst Bill
kawer Is was surprised live on the air. Up until
this moment he was merely a Pro Football Hall of
Fame finalist. But listen, Jack, Yeah, he is special. And
you know, Bill, there's something else special here. Hey, who's
this big fella? I'm sorry, you bet you sorry, man.

(01:06:44):
I was trying to knock on a door back there,
but you don't have a door. Knock it down, knock down, Hey, coach,
your viewers out there who don't know. I'm David Baker
Princil in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. I want
to thank you for all you've done for the game,
for all you're gonna do for the game, and I
want to welcome you to Canton, Ohio, where you're Meanwhile,

(01:07:11):
in the NBA Saturday Night, the Los Angeles Lakers without
Lebron James or Anthony Davis won anyway at Oklahoma City.
Kyle Kuzma Season I thirty six, Lakers thirty two and
seven on an eight game winning streak. Michael and will
back to you. Thank you so much, Ilo, so as
he said, the seven hundred, you gotta get out all right,

(01:07:31):
shovel be gone. We had a great debate on this
at swooll And Dome, the Battle because you also had
a guy hit a half court shot in New York.
This is a great uh Friday night story. Guy hit
a half shot half court shot at the Knicks game
and they gave him a thousand dollars and lot of scratchers. Huh,
that was his prize Lakers. The week before, I gave
a guy hunter grand. Now I think the Hunter Grand

(01:07:52):
is too high. But a thousand dollars and lot of scratchers,
and I guess you've given the guy a puncher's chance.
But that's a lot of work. Did they at least
supply him the quarter to scratch him off? Yeah? No kidding,
that guy was winning on the next level. But yes,
twelve bucks an hour, volunteers. It's a community event. They

(01:08:14):
were going to show up, take pictures and have fun.
Either way, we'll have a game later on this afternoon.
Seattle Seahawks and they're banged up offense. Russell Wilson finds
a way right, Hus Wilson, Right like Jeff Goldbloom told
us in Jurassic Park, Life finds a way that's Russell Wilson,
that dr Ian Malcolm. Yeah, that's right, nicely done. You

(01:08:38):
could buy the Funco toy of sexy dr Ian Malcolm
all laid out. But that's for another time. But for
the Seahawks, they find DK Metcalf, they find Hollister, they
find guys to make plans man. That's Russell Wilson in
a nutshell because the run game last week. Okay, he's

(01:09:01):
not playing though in the end when you say, when
you said fine guys, that's what I was thinking. I
was thinking that you know the personnel and the evaluation,
certainly know no slouches. We did Russell being the quarterback,
getting everyone involved. Yes, I agree, Well, because we'll get
into coaching and some good, some bad, some ugly, and
I'm going to relate how the Dallas job Mike McCarthy's

(01:09:23):
looking at a lot like something out of a Few
Good Men. That's coming up in about twenty five minutes
from now. But just the idea of the evaluation and
stability of an organization, and we've celebrated it here. You've
talked about your time in Seattle, that, you know, the
embracing or at least the talking points for a lot
of coaches. And we we saw it from Judge the

(01:09:44):
other day as he takes over the Giants, like we've
got to put guys and find guys to make plays
and put them in position based on their skill set,
et cetera. What the Patriots have done and certainly with
the Seahawks have done during their run for Schneider and Carroll. Yeah,
I mean that eight. I know, for Seattle, they just
look for a certain character, a certain type of guy.

(01:10:05):
Um guys who have a lot of potential, who you know,
may have a chip on the shoulder or what have you.
The biggest thing that Seattle does, though, is that they
just make everybody compete at all times. I mean it's
you have to earn every single thing, like as soon
as you're relaxed, and that's the problem, and they do
a good job of that. I Mean. The the coolest

(01:10:26):
thing is they were at one point one of the
most dominant teams we've ever seen, going back to two
thousand and thirteen. End up you know, winning a title
with that squad and then you know, obviously due to
financial reasons and then a lot of UM soldiers became generals.

(01:10:47):
They made huge changes pretty much. You know, LB everyone left,
everyone defense left pretty much. Only I think kJ Right
and Bobby Wagging the only two that stay there UM.
And they never had to reset I mean never had
to rebuild. Instead they just reset it. They still stay
competitive UM. And that's that's the cool thing about it.
And that's why you can never ever look past or

(01:11:10):
ever a doubt Seattle, because they keep showing you every
year that with Russell Wilson and resetting this roster, he
just needs like one guy he can get the ball too,
and he'll get it done well. It's funny because coming
into the year, when we looked at DK metcalf a
lot on the physicality and just wondering how they translate,

(01:11:32):
they just said, go run fast and catch the ball
right right. We'll worry about the refinement of your route
tree as your career goes on. We can teach that,
but we can't teach the raw athleticism. And they've used
that too great success over the course of the year.
When Lockett was injured, he stepped up will Disly or

(01:11:52):
a defensive player that they flopped over and he was
off to a great year before he gets hurt and
then we know all about the decimation running back for
Green Bay. It's all been about the running game. And
let's get this clear, Like just because you don't you
didn't have a great three cone, doesn't mean you can't
run routes. I had a phenomenal three cone. I think

(01:12:15):
mine was like six six seven. I think it was
the top that year at the combine. I didn't run
great routes. I did. I was very agile, like I
can return punts, like my change of directions, but I didn't.
It didn't translate to good routes. I mean, you go
back to my my receiver highlights. I ran a goal
route and a quick screen. I had to run a

(01:12:37):
ten yard gig forget about it. But your falls in
the hand, you gotta make guys. You still gotta play football.
And yeah, I mean, come on, now, he's been playing
receiver his whole life. It's in his dad was an
NFL players, Like, come on, man, I get it. Just
the narrative that's stuck. For the reason why he fell

(01:12:57):
is because he had a really bad neck injury. That's why.
And teams didn't know if they wanted to invest in that,
and I feel like Seattle got enough information where they
felt comfortable and they took their shot. And I think, well,
it also is going back to organizational stability of they're
not two guys looking over their shoulders that their jobs

(01:13:18):
are on the line right with the first round pick.
If they miss and he's unavailable to you can go
for it. You can take a little bit of a shot.
And so for DK Metcalfe, he's been just a fantastic
story all year long, and certainly the second half of
the year that much better. But I mean half of
LB was like that. The only first rounder in that

(01:13:39):
secondary was Earl Thomas. But even but even that was
something to convince because they were like, you're gonna take
Earl and not Taylor Mays. Taylor Mays, Yeah, And that
was that was Pete Carl safety, right, um, and he
knew something. And also you look at Sherman was a

(01:13:59):
fifth pick, camp Chancel was. I think he was third
or fourth, fourth, I have to look that up. Camp
Chancel was, you know, a mid round pick. Byron Maxwell
was a late round pick. I think he was seventh.
Brandon Browner went undrafted, went to the CFL picked him up,

(01:14:25):
went to the CFL. I mean, come on now, I
mean that, but it's talent evaluation and when that all
comes together that buys you and you still you still
got to coach him up. I'm not gonna let me
listen to this. Certainly, Yeah, you still gotta coach him up.
So for Green Bay, it's been the Aaron Jones Show.
He and Davante Adams the two skill position players making
hay for Aaron Rodgers questions. Let's just say they're at

(01:14:49):
least starting right as we look at the elder State Statesman.
Among quarterbacks, it's fair to at least toss it in
the mix. As you change to this, it seems more
are I've got a complimentary piece that I haven't had?
Is any of my skills declining? Not like that? I mean,
who do he had? Similar? I guess was? It starts

(01:15:10):
running back, starts at a little bit of a run
where he can where he can receive, and you know,
it was like a combination of him and h I
think it was Lacy. Yeah, I wanted to dust off
a little sam con Gatto just to get him into
the show. But he was Sam con wasn't. I mean
they were on the same team. But I just he
had about a four game How about this my rookie,

(01:15:31):
mean my rookie training camp? Sam con Gatto, naj Davenport,
a mong Green I'm old, well J Davenport will leave
his off field. Actually, I think I think, I just
I think I missed Sam can Gotta. However, well, I
just wanted to get Sam. But it's great, he is

(01:15:52):
very blessed to have this situation. And it's gonna be
really big to see the health of Davante Adams because
that's gonna be important for him. Again. I got green
Bay at home. I'll take him at home. I think
Seattle Russell keeps it close, makes enough big plays, but
not enough, just not enough. They can't run the ball enough. Now,
that's that's the problem. You need way too many big

(01:16:12):
bussys and a lot of yak coming down field to
make it happen. Hey, if you thought the New England
off season was interesting, maybe it took an extra turn.
As in we're looking now at mug shots as we
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(01:16:37):
Great eggs, welcome back in This is Fox Football Sunday
my garment alongside Will Blackman. Thanks for hanging out with
us here on Fox Sports Radio, getting your Sunday started
to from services, going for a walk with the dog,
just having a cup of coffee, whatever you're doing. Thanks
for making us part of your routine, part of your day,
and being part of our extended family. Uh. A guy

(01:16:57):
who's looking for a little bit of help, right everybody.
Last week there was the burial, the public burial of
the New England Patriots. You and I talked about that
last Sunday. I don't know that any world event has
united the people that they were so jacked crying and
screaming and yelling. It's the end of Tom Brady, right,

(01:17:20):
or so they thought. We'll see puts out his Instagram post.
What does it mean? Jason Smith and I chopped that up.
You find that out iTunes, google Play, wherever you download
your podcast, download and give it five stars. Will walk
coast to coast, or at least Jason will uh and
give you a hug. But it's been an interesting week
now because, as you pointed, out to me, Julian Edelman.

(01:17:42):
Well now has an arrest. In addition to all the
off off field work he's gonna have to do to
get his body right for next season, already scheduled for
shoulder and knee surgeries. Well now he's got a misdemeanor
vandalism charge on the docket. According to TMZ, arrested and
Beverly Hills on Saturday night after allegedly jumping on the

(01:18:02):
hood of a person's Mercedes. People and the police were
in the area working a robbery and someone flagged them
down to report what Edelman had done. I think the
robber got away because they were worried about the the
e walk they thought was the robber. That's deep thoughts.

(01:18:24):
That's that's the police now. Edelman always a playoff heros
are normally used to playing. I guess he didn't know
how to hand divisional weekend. I'm not playing for the
first half in a decade. Hopefully he's all right, though,
you know, Julie is a cool dude. Uh. District attorney

(01:18:44):
in l A County now has to decide whether or
not to proceed with the charges. Seems like one of
those that he'll write a check cover whatever damage dents
found it out that it it should be nice and easy.
But I have to wonder if if you had for
a decade just kind of penciled in, all right, we'll
be playing that weekend, and suddenly the world just stops. Right.

(01:19:07):
It's like a fan of Snap. What happens next? Snap?
I don't know, alright, half of your world is gone.
He's so used to I know, he's so used to
being there on the on the weekends playing games. But huh,
shoulder knee surgeries in the offing. Brady was still wondering

(01:19:27):
if Josh McDaniels gets the job. Well, they say, hey,
and his wife interview there, right right out there hanging out.
Usually when they bring the spouse, it's kind of like, huh,
start picking out houses and all of that stuff, probably
looking at school systems and everything. I think that'd be
a great fit. I think that's somebody that Baker would
respect and listen to, because I feel like Baker has

(01:19:50):
so much power over there that he doesn't feel like
anyone there has enough credicitions to Tom what to do.
Was that has biggest flaw? I mean, because obviously he
changes mind at a moment's notice, but that Dorsey wasn't
necessarily empowered last year. And then it was all Baker
Like I said, I felt they gave. I felt they
gave the keys to the car, you know, when they

(01:20:11):
were so excited to see him and they fell in
love with all his attributes, uh, the it factor, all
the tangibles in terms of being a leader, culture changer.
And he does have all those qualities. It's just a
matter of, you know, managing it the right way. You know,

(01:20:32):
right place, right time. Don't have to answer every question
you don't, um like, learn from those guys, learned from
Paint and learn from Brady, learned from Breeze, learned from
you know, all those guys who who who didn't do that.
I never once heard Tom Brady talk about somebody else's
medical situation ever, or their money or their money, because

(01:20:55):
that's also where it all starts started in this off
season when he got into Duke Johnson d Walling. He's
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(01:21:17):
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(01:21:38):
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Away in the band. Well, I mean we got to
get back to back to work. I mean you had
that little stretching break, Christian. What's that Iowa Sam, Yes,

(01:21:59):
he's in the building, don't credit. Yes, we we have
the tag out as Chris perfett Uh leaves us after
two hours and we we tap, we go to the bullpen.
Iowa Sam Uh comes in with a shiny Iowa Hawkeyes
hat at the ready as what he does the Iowa

(01:22:20):
Minute with Jonas Knox every week, so that's where you
could hear him. Iowa Sam ninety nine on Twitter is
still where you can find him for all things Iowa related.
He'll be tweeting out about anybody that went to Iowa
has any Iowa affiliation in these Sunday games. Will, That's
what he does over the course of you go. You

(01:22:42):
gotta problem up right, you gotta you gotta take care
of your guys as you are as you are as
a Chicago native but a Northwestern grant. I'm always watching
the exploits of Dean Lowry and those guys in the
Green Bay Unis. So you know, it's just the way
it works. I wouldn't know, but um, thank you. Just
trying to give some color and flavor to what we're

(01:23:05):
doing here. Again, I don't care to. I thought I
explained it pretty well. He must have stopped listening. So yeah, Homer, uh,
come on in at Will Blackman at NFL wine guys.
Where you find Will on Twitter and Instagram. Find me
over at Swollen Dome. Now as we have the game

(01:23:26):
still rolling here divisional round. Everybody loves this weekend of
football right, the best on best and the sledge hammers
that we saw Tennessee, UM and San Francisco and Baltimore
getting after that style of football. We had a coaching higher.
About a week ago, we were on air talking about it,
and you know, let a guy out of the building.

(01:23:48):
Normally that comes back to bite you. And that's what happened,
seemingly with the Giants. Matt Rule never got there. Gave
him the chance to match uh the monster offer that
Temper gave him in Carolina. The Giant said no thanks.
So Matt Rule becomes your Carolina coach. You have, Judge
goes to the Giants, and Mike McCarthy becomes the next

(01:24:10):
head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. We were chuckling about
the sleepover this time last Sunday. Okay, first of all,
about this whole McCarthy spending the night at Jerry Jones home.
Just no, I've never been to Jerry Jones home. But
he's a billionaire living in Texas. There's a lot of land,

(01:24:32):
there's a lot of land. He probably has to he
probably had to drive to the room. Mark McCarthy was
staying in. Yeah, but you're killing the fun of sports
talk radios. I don't want to hear that. No, Okay,
McCarthy is my guy. I'm not gonna have that. You're
not gonna have these memes of him cuddling Jerry Jones
out there pillow talking. All right, I almost joined the fund,

(01:24:57):
but I couldn't bring myself to doing that. Well, but
it made for a fun set of memes a little
bit because it's Jerry Jones. It wasn't about McCarthy. Was
all about Jerry Jones and his attempt to get a
head coach. Right, and so McCarthy becomes the guy. But
it's probably a test. He probably wanted to see I
who was going to go through his cabinets and smell
his cologns? And you know I don't care to. Now

(01:25:23):
there's one as Barney Gumble comes back at this guy
being snooping around my billion dollar guest house. See if
he takes anything, takes anything, even a sock. He's got
one of those little bags. Inside the bags and all
of a sudden, wait, didn't you just come in with
one suitcase? Actually he might. He might have the home
where you have to like turn in your cell phone
going Jeter style or um, yeah, Paul Allen style too,

(01:25:48):
the late Paul Allen. It's not a bad way to be.
I heard you had to meet at every remote location
and you got picked up by one of those like
black vans that was blacked outs. You saw nothing. I
think it'd be a little nervous, would you not? Well,
I mean it would be an adventure of a lifestyle
if you've survived to tell the tale. This is Paul
Allen's black car. If it was you know, some guy

(01:26:10):
working down the street, a black man, and I'd be working.
You know, people get disappeared. I don't know that. With
that being said, I like the higher, Okay, like the higher.
I have one part of the higher that I have
to ask though. James Slater appears on on FS one
part of the podcast network. She was on NFL Network

(01:26:32):
and said, I have not yet talked to Dak Prescott.
That's what Mike McCarthy had said, and this was being
reported as a Friday. You took the job quarterback, being
your leader and the guy that in theory they want
to lock up for multiple years here in the in theory, no,
and and but but I mean that's that's the question

(01:26:52):
I'm asking here, will the fact that that wasn't that
seems like you know, the a few good men. Santiago
is getting to go home. Who did he call? And
so the same thing here this is gonna be the
guy that ostensibly you're being brought in to take to
the next level because he was a bump slayer this year.

(01:27:13):
Dad put up a lot of numbers against bad teams
they did not win, and as part of that was
play calling like Kellen Moore, I think got a free
pass at times. I mean, you guys have the number
one offense. What did it mean against teams with winning
or winning lost that you had the number one offense?
That's you know, I mean, I mean you had to

(01:27:37):
fire your coach. They still gave up points, right, But
you also had a number of times where your offense
didn't show up in games against better teams where they
might have given a saying the games against bad teams
offset therefore given them. Well, there are a lot of
padded stat games against bad teams, go back to their

(01:28:00):
their first three games of the year against the also
rans teams that are drafting in the top six. Just
but it suffice to say you're deciding whether Dak's your guy,
wouldn't that still be one of the guys you would
call this isn't das team? Whose is it? Jerry's? Well,

(01:28:26):
yeah it was, but it was more than it was,
and they certainly avoided that, right everything. Okay, So what
you're telling me reading between the lines, that maybe Dak
Prescott quarterbacks somewhere else, who knows, because they as of now,

(01:28:49):
I mean, you're looking at franchise tags. You can go
the transition round if you want to see if someone
wants to offer some massive deal that might be on
the table in Tampa with Jamis Winston, and then you've
got all right, we signed him to a long term
deal since they didn't get that done in the regular season,
and Jerry Jones talked less and less about that as
the season wore on. Part of it was, hey, we're

(01:29:12):
in a mad dash and we're collapsing enough that Philadelphia
is now you know, objects in your rear view mirror
are closer than they appear, and they got up on him.
So but for Dak Prescott, just the question, I guess becomes,
did you see enough to say that he should be
a franchise guy? I saw enough where he should he

(01:29:33):
should be. Um, he does bring some stability to that position.
He is something constant. It's just a matter of right
and it can come down to play calm. But I
feel like he is the type of quarterback that you
you will need for your organization. And if he stays,
I believe coach McCarthy is the coach who who could

(01:29:56):
get him to that next level, because we certainly saw
that in Green Bay. Right, you come in at the
same time, right, you were there first year, right, right,
and far and then that was when I don't want
to say he elevated far as the game he did
a far was at the end well as everyone thought,
but he just kept playing but extended the run another
couple of years before he didn't Rogers, right, yeah, and

(01:30:18):
then had a great changistion to Rogers could have been
very easy with a guy as tenured, as far as
to just you know, blow it up, which didn't write
he read this, read the room, read the situation. Integrated players.
A lot of young guys like yourself came in and
played big roles on those teams right away. So when

(01:30:38):
we look at this squad, you've got Michael Gallup, that's
the only guy in your receiving corps that's set and Randall.
Randall Cobb is probably gotten ones. He got one more
year on his deal, I think a two year deal.
But Amari Cooper is not signed after the back end
of the year. I don't know. I don't I don't
know that I want to invest seventeen million dollars a

(01:30:58):
year in and which might be the rate. Especially with
the heavy receiver draft, right you've got a lot of
a lot of opportunity to go in and and find
a replacement on on the cheap, plus free agency as well.
Guys are gonna shake loose as you go. Jason Witten
goes into coaching or whatever he's done. He was running

(01:31:19):
in month. The second half is up to you got
some pieces on the defense. The only thing, the only
thing that's certain is your offensive linemen are all there
and you're most of your D line, I think is
an intact. So you got your guts and now it's
sprinkling around. But also the thirty five million dollar decision
on Dak Prescott. Yeah, no, it is important. But that's

(01:31:41):
why I feel like right now, that's what's going on.
Everything is on the evaluation with the new coach, because
there's certainly been some rumors about maybe bringing in the
TB twelve method to Jerry, the Tom Brady, just the
Dallas that's been floated about a little bit. I mean
like at this at this point, it's the spin the

(01:32:01):
wheel of Tom Brady on a given day. I've seen
him uh photoshopped into i think half the jerseys of
the NFL. Oh, it's funny. Ryan Clark Uh, yes, been guy,
former Steeler, tweeted out he said, which team do you
think Tom Brady could go to? You know, which of
the thirty one teams other thirty one tom Brady would

(01:32:25):
go to that he could upgrade? And I commented and
said one stability work epic. I was just throwing out.
I was just throwing off fire just to mess with people.
I like that, though, I'd be curious to see what
that number actually was if you started breaking it down right,

(01:32:46):
I mean as good as the quarterback position is overall.
And folks were quick to bury Brady and I'm not.
I'm certainly not rocking a Brady tattoo or you know,
his jersey as I sit here. But the guy was
still four thousand yards, three touchdowns or interception. You can't
tell me that he's and they were for and on
the East, with a lot of obvious deficiencies on that team.

(01:33:06):
Thank you. At least that's from what I want. That's
a fair assessment. Watched uh Ride myself and watching the games. Right,
I'm not reading box scores in people's opinions, right, No,
I agree? Um, I speaking to Tom Brad if we
want to talk about him really quick, I think if
he doesn't go back to New England, he doesn't go
anywhere else. Rogers rise to the sunset. But knowing him,

(01:33:31):
he doesn't want to go out with an L. They
want to go out with an L. And then I
thought he was going to retire last year. I totally
I would take that Super Bowl and tap out. I
think he's just getting greedy. He wants seven seven does
I mean it's a nice number because no one has
seven as an organization. Be the king of all all football.
That's the hope, that's the private That was his whole point.

(01:33:52):
I'm sure. Yeah. I still was shocked. But I mean,
as we watched Tennessee and we'll get back into them momentarily.
Is the way they play football fantastic. But you go
with a narrow win over New England and then you
absolutely hammer well because it was because it was difficult.
You know, it's to go in New England and New

(01:34:14):
England had playoff. You know I was ready in the
playoffs every time. Um, it was gonna be a difficult game,
and they went in there and did exactly what they
had to do. But let's I mean, we can also
say to the last like last powdered game, uh, Tennessee,
just sat in the football well and use some of
those clock tactics that Bill Bell. It was brilliant. And

(01:34:37):
when you've got a Derrick Henry, you can sit on
the football, no question about it. We'll get into that momentarily.
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(01:34:59):
Vray breaking some of the stereotypes. We'll talk about that
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Fox Football Sunday, My Carmon alongside Will blackmen hanging out
with thinking of finesse. Finesse teams are getting cleaned up

(01:35:21):
in the playoffs. They don't. Finesse football dies in the playoffs.
Finesse football does not exist in the playoffs. If you
come out here trying to be cute with these cool
plays and and uh innovative passing plays, you will be
thrown out of the playoffs. Okay, it's not happening, And

(01:35:42):
that's part of the beauty of it. The football that
I grew up on the three yards in a cloud
of dust oftentimes seen as we'll just dead and we'll
get to Melvin Gordon coming up in about twenty minutes
because he tried to represent for running backs and was
probably promptly, Uh, you want to talk about a stiff arm.
This was like the Jimmy Garoppolo block on Anthony Barr

(01:36:04):
yesterday that went around the world, right, I mean, that's
kind of what happened to Melvin Gordon's get out of
here kind of moment. Mouth but smash mouth football in vogue,
and nobody rises higher than well King Henry right now,
Derrick Henry ridiculous run the second half of the season,
everything you thought he could be, and then some and

(01:36:27):
Ryan Tannehill guiding the ship not trying to do too much,
only fourteen pass attempts eighty eight passing yards. It was
feed the big fella and try to stop it, much
like the Ravens ran that offense, and they couldn't. With
Mark Ingram banged up ankle. I was surprised we didn't
see more Gus Edwards early. I was shocked. Right Gus

(01:36:49):
the bus when we extolled the virtues of him before
Ingram shows up, he takes a back seat. And all
week it was the availability of Ingram. Was he gonna be?
Essentially had five turnovers right, two picks, fumble and two
fourth down stops. Those should count his turnovers, by the way,

(01:37:10):
they shouldn't just go into the turnover on downs in
a subcategory. Those are turnovers, right, but you give up
the field position so it doesn't show up in the box,
because that's actually a much bigger deal than just you
give him the ball back, because you don't give up
get that extra thirty yards of fuel position. In all
and with the exception of two of them, they were
you know, three of them what past plays um And

(01:37:34):
that's that's why it was. It was so confusing, because
I'm like, Okay, they're still capable. That's the danger thing
with Baltimore is they have three running backs that can
all go for a hundred yards. For con the quarterback
who had a hundred forty yards just carries one three
for Lamar Long of thirty, Ingram six carries twenty two

(01:37:56):
yards because he was hurt. Gus Edwards three carries twenty yards.
You don't you don't fall down. You don't grab your
calf like that and think like, oh, yeah he got
a little strain. No, he was hurting, Okay, so that hurt,
tried to play, hurt, tried to play through all week.
It was the question he was on the injury report,
Andrews was on the injury report. Uh, Andrews finishes the game.

(01:38:17):
He's got four catches thirty nine yards. Hurst had the
touchdown reception, a couple of big plat pass plays to
Hollywood Brown. But it's all cosmetic because you didn't finish
the job. Justin Tucker, the thing you didn't do all
season long, right, because they finished the job when you
got the best kicker, and he was on Fantasy right,
and a lot of times it was here's your p A. T.
S And you got the gift on that at the

(01:38:40):
end of the half, big pass play safety could a
lit You know, I thought the same, betwo. I'm like, man,
hooker pulled up and I'm like, you know what, I
think he was trying to avoid something because that was easy,
a clean shot where no one catches the football. That's
kind of what I thought, right, especially because Brown had
to reach his hand hand, extend his hand, he could

(01:39:00):
have separated up from the ball. I probably would have
took that fifteen What I was thinking that that was
me in the moments, like why did he not run
through him? Again? My folks sitting next to me out
back steakhouse down down by me, uh, not a sponsor, Uh,
folks when I screamed out like what what are you doing?

(01:39:22):
Why are you yelling? It's like, oh, there's nine So
you were just screaming like sure of excitement. You were
screaming like in terms of questionable decision making. Yeah, absolutely,
I'm trying to teach my kids as we're still would
I would have asked to you the move tables, asked
you to leave. I would have been one of the two.
You're that guy. No, you're that guy. No, you're that

(01:39:43):
you're that guy who just can't enjoy the meal with
his family and watch a game at a family restaurant. Guys,
they put the game on. We're all in because it's important.
We'll put the game on at a restaurant. And we
were ghosted at the bar. No, no no, no, it's it's
all in. Go sit at the bar. You knew what
you were getting into. Playoff. We did not know what

(01:40:06):
he was. He didn't know what he was getting into.
What I said, he thought he was like me sitting there.
I'm gonna have a steak, and you know what, I
get to have a steak and watch the game. Literally,
I know that there's this guy over here. He's gonna
make me a smarter fans. I'm not even hungry anymore
because this guy keeps yelling starving, not starving. I don't

(01:40:27):
get it. Titans twelve, the final thirty carries on yards,
including that sixty six yarder that you want to talk
about ripping a spine. This was an immortal cobbat finishing
violent over here. That's right. I mean, it's Football's a

(01:40:48):
violent game. And Derrick Henry and that offensive line. That
goes back to my point about the whole finesse thing. Um. Um.
One of the games that's one of the Super Bowls
that stands out to me is the Super Bowl between
the Seahawks and the Broncos. The Broncos had like that
record setting year, um, and I just had a feeling

(01:41:10):
I'm saying, you know what, they might just get blasted
against Seattle because Seattle is they were playing bully football.
Well they went punched him in the mouth repeatedly, repeatedly,
you know, and and I just look at that even
down to you know, also go to the Super Bowl
with the Falcons and the Patriots. Matt Ryan lights it
up that year. Defense shuts it down, right, But that's Joeys,

(01:41:36):
you know, the same thing you had the Rams with
that potent offense, defense came through and shut it down.
I mean, part of it becomes like we talked about
in the NBA and the difference between regular season and
playoff basketball is you're gonna get hands e right. That's
what that Seattle secondary did said, all right, call the Holts,
you're gonna call them all No, you're not gonna call
them You're not You're not gonna call all the contact.

(01:41:58):
That's what the Patriots have done for years now. It's
the same thing, especially against the Rams last year. People
crying for a penalty on every play. It's like they're
not gonna call it, so adjust figure out how to
get a guy some space. See's dangerous in Tennessee the
way they played defensively playmakers look no, And this was

(01:42:19):
we were talking a little bit about the Dallas offense earlier,
right and putting up all the points Dak Prescott's numbers
and varying degrees of whether you decide they're hollow and
what trying to take out meaning and take out whatever
noise there is. But anytime he was throwing the ball
forty eight times, I'm raising my hand, going you have
the offensive line and Ezekiel Elliott or what six of

(01:42:42):
your top eight paid players. Likewise, in Baltimore, your whole
time has been about being a bully. What are you
saving him for? Right? Passing attempts that the whole time
you get to halftime, it's fourteen six, you're one possession away,
yet you abandon pretty much all of what you've come with.

(01:43:03):
I was like, dude, I was like two year. I
was like LaMarche, Actually, I know, of course he's not
going to see it. But I'm like, if i'm him,
if I see man coverage, I'm gone Nineman throwing the ball,
I'm gonna go Deshaun Watson style. I think last year
where everything was on the line, he was like, I'm
just not gonna throw it if no one's open, and
I'm gonna get the first down, I'm gonna pump fake
and I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go.

(01:43:25):
And and yeah, there were a lot of Like I said,
there are a lot of questionable things. I mean, I'm
not taking anything away from Tennessee at all. They went
in there and beat them down, but there were some
things that Baltimore could have done to help themselves, especially
because they had such a successful season. Um, that's where
it just all goes to waste. Now it doesn't even matter. Well,

(01:43:45):
it was you and I were looking a bit earlier.
I don't know the official number yet, but we're talking
somewhere between twelve and eighteen unrestricted free agents for Baltimore,
many of whom are on the defensive side of things.
So yeah, that gives you an opportunity to go in
the marketplace, but it also disrupts a lot of what
you built in that locker room this year. Yeah, I

(01:44:08):
mean a big help is then they're gonna get Tony
Jefferson back at safety. Um, that's gonna be a big
deal because he he is the one guy that will
come downhill and smack somebody right like he was he
would have been the one guy in that secondary. Um.
But it's gonna be interesting, man, because this this was
this was this was the year. This was the chance

(01:44:29):
to do it, because yeah, will they be competitive? Sure?
Will they be back in this position next year? To
be in them one seed in the a f C.
I don't know, but you promised nothing in this league.
If anything, we we've learned through the years, go through
even some of the all time greats, it's the they
got one shot and never got back, or they had
a great team and never finished a playoff run. Right

(01:44:53):
to go back to the fourteen and two Chargers, go
back to Dan Marino's second year, it was like, oh,
they're they're lighting it up. They'll get in one, right,
I mean they they couldn't have had a better team. No,
that was a fantastic roster on both sides of the ball,
high flying offensive attack and and and couldn't finish, so

(01:45:14):
I mean, you promised nothing, so I started seeing all
the takes, so you had both ends of the spectrum, right,
Lamar's trash which is just dumb, and you just missed them.
So but it it gave everybody cause to go see
playoff football. But it goes back to style and we
talked about that. But the other side it was, don't
worry about it. He'll still win his handful of Super
Bowl rings. Like man, I win a division, right, and

(01:45:38):
all of this changes and the NFL, as we know,
you can go worst to first pretty fast. One of
the teams that was right there, uh last year, we'll
talk about them next and the beat down that they
put on in their playoff exhibition yesterday. Will Blackman in
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what's trendy, Michael and Will It was the result that
shocked the football world Saturday night. As the top seed
in the a f C, the Baltimore Ravens lost at

(01:46:21):
home big to the Tennessee Titans twenty eight to twelve
as they got trampled by Derrick Henry's one nine rushing yards.
He also threw a touchdown passed by the way as
the Titans advanced to the a f C Championship Game
to face either the Chiefs or the Texans, who meet
today at three oh five Eastern. Earlier Saturday, the San
Francisco forty Niners advanced to the NFC Championship Game with

(01:46:44):
the twenty seven to ten win, but the Vikings. The
forty Niners will host the Packers or Seahawks, who square
off at six forty Eastern time tonight. Also in the
National Football League, Yes, overnight, in of all places, Beverly Hills,

(01:47:08):
New England, Patriots receiver Julian Edelman was arrested for jumping
on the hood of someone's Mercedes. Yes. Edelman was cited
for misdemeanor vandalism and released. But apparently Patriot fans are
keeping things in perspective Edelman reportedly needs to have his

(01:47:29):
knee scoped during the off season, and among the comments
on social media from Patriots fans, guess his knee is
good to go then, right, and I'm glad to hear
Edelman is up and about good stuff only from New
England Patriots fans on social media. Also, in the NBA
Saturday Night, the Los Angeles Lakers without Lebron James and

(01:47:53):
Anthony Davis won anyway at Oklahoma City one to one,
ten behind Kyle Kuzmas season high thirty six. The Lakers
thirty two and seven on an eight game winning streak.
And to wrap it up, Michael and Will just a
quick bit of Beverly Hills nine on trivia with a
sports connection. You remember David Silver's dad, I think his

(01:48:16):
name was Melson. Yeah, he went on after nine O
two one oh wrapped to become of all things, the
radio sideline reporter for Duke Basketball, believe it or not.
Back to you. I had no idea. Yeah, that's a
good piece of trivia. Thanks. I thought you were gonna
give me the obvious. Hey, remember when Steve Young came
to Thanksgiving? Since we're gonna talk about about that, I

(01:48:40):
thought it was just the obvious back into forty Diners football.
But thanks Illo. Appreciate Hey quick shout out to um
my guys at Wine Exchange, Tristan Beaman, Kyle Meyer, Hey guys,
Patrick Meyer. They're listening. They always listen. Appreciate that they
are the ones that educate this mine, hold it down.

(01:49:03):
Always learn always learned. Always. There's dude, there's there's like
three thousand great varietos in Italy alone. So what's the difference.
So I don't know those are unaware. I have no
idea those unaware. First level towards becoming a Somalia will black.
So so I'll tell you in the in the Court
of Masters Somalia. You have the intro level, which is

(01:49:26):
the exam I just passed. I was actually in Beverly Hills,
probably around the same time that he was. I was.
I was having pizza at Richie Palmer's plays Mulberry Pizza.
He actually cleared my table. Pretty cool. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Um,
you have the intro and the next level is that
that's the actual certification where that's the next level. I
have I think the exams in March. Then after that

(01:49:48):
you can take your advance exam. Then after advance is
the actual master Somalia. And that's that's like a six
percent success rate that exam. It's only two forty in
the whole world in the past like fifty years. That's
the goal, squad. Come on, well, let me get my

(01:50:08):
start first. Come on, but what's the difference, Like you
went through the first part this week, so what what's
the training? What's what's the The next part is basically
just continue to learn that the theory, all the regions
and the what each region produces, the soil, taar, all
that stuff. Also being a Somalia, it's it's important to uh,

(01:50:31):
the service part is important because the point of being
a smaler you want to eventually work at a restaurant. Me, no,
I don't know if I'm a working in a restaurant.
But also I can be a director, the wine director
at a restaurant wine director or run your own place
and establishment your teaching about wine and I will be
I will eventually with my whole NFL wine I think

(01:50:51):
I will have where you can if you want events,
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at Swollen Dome. We're talking about one side of the

(01:51:13):
bracket from yesterday and the beat down put on by
the Titans. I don't know if there's enough good adjectives
and we'll run out of them to talk about the
effort of the San Francisco forty Niners outside of one possession.
The nice response like, all right, we got ourselves a game, right,
forty Niners on their first possession after three and out,

(01:51:34):
take the ball, go sixty yards score. Vikings respond, big
pass play to Stefon dig You're like, yeah, it's like,
all right, we got ourselves something here. And that was
it from then, complete and utter domination on both sides
of the ball, the run game in full effect. Welcome back,
Tevin Coleman, Welcome back that that was the dangerous part

(01:51:54):
of the Niners. It's Kyle Shanahan literally uses, if you're
a dressed for that game on offense, you're you're gonna
play and you're probably gonna catch the catch the ball. Well,
and one thing that was brought up during the broadcast.
I don't think was highlighted enough as we got towards
the end of the season, is how banged up the
forty Niners offensive line had been, even with their success, Right,

(01:52:16):
Stanley missed a ton of time over the course of
the year. So he comes back. So now you've got him,
a guy who's had a fantastic year career, I should say.
And so you have Coleman, you have Mostirt Brita eight
carry seventeen yards, but still he's a punishing runner. So
those those are more the let's add it up twenty

(01:52:38):
two from Coleman, twelve from Mostart. But on the other
side of things, Dalvin Cook nine carries eighteen yards all
you season long. That was the only thing you can
get against the forty Niners was they gave up about
four point seven a pop. Is that you could run
on them. Here they took Dalvin Cook away almost in
the BELICHICKI and style of all right, go at a

(01:52:59):
kirk cousin, let's see what you can do. And because
once you get that pass rush going and running downhill,
you're in trouble. And that was the big thing. And
and there's there's no secret. I mean, of course, the
obvious is for any quarterback in the history of football,
if the run game is going well, then yes, you
have a better chance. We know that, but especially with
this offense, it was extremely, extremely important. What was interesting

(01:53:23):
about this game too, is there was a lot of um,
I guess part, a lot of branches from the Mike
Shanahan tree that was involved in all of this. You know,
you obviously have have Mike shannonhan Um and then you
have his son, by the way, shout out to my
wife Shanna, she just jumped on Instagram life. Um, then

(01:53:43):
you have Kyle, and Kyle had his you know, McVeigh lafleur,
and then Kirk was with Kyle and McVeigh and Washington.
You know, so a lot of same same going all around,
and um, I feel like people thought that Kirk would
have the upper hand and knowing what you know, Oh yeah,
and you got Kubiak their whatever title they've given him,

(01:54:08):
but yeah, assistant head coach, I think it is. But
you have all that, so it was interesting. But I
just felt like it just like maybe they did celebrate
too much last week. That's what I just wondered, you know,
they got to the locker room, you had the redux
of you like that, and it just felt like they'd
finished the job, as opposed to all right, now we

(01:54:30):
have to go to San Francisco. We gotta keep going.
And it was like they slayed a big beast, right
Kirk Cousins all of the issues of big getting big
time games and big performances and no jonas uh and R.
J Bell doing a big thing about how well he
plays at one pm Eastern versus other time. It's ridiculous. No,

(01:54:50):
it's it's absolutely okay. So so funny story. Um, remember
we were I forget who we're playing. I think it
was Green Bear somebody. But we had our pregame meal
was at like one o'clock instead of nine, and I
remember Kirk was eating eating by himself, and he was

(01:55:12):
like he was talking to himself. He was like, man,
I just ate these late games, just off by himself,
these late games. So no, I'm just I just want
to go play right now, just play right now. And
it's funny. I heard that. I was like, huh, yeah,
he's like sixty against the spread in early games, but

(01:55:34):
his quarterback rating and all these are like these huge
numbers and then he's against the spread in the afternoon
or evening wind. So I remember, I went, I went
upstairs because we stayed at the hotel in Oxon Hill,
and um, you know, I got my wife from him too,
because we lived in ashburd Virginia. The game is in
you know, Maryland. So she stayed at the hotel. So

(01:55:56):
I went up and told her that story. It's gonna
be interesting tonight. I don't I don't know. I don't
know how it's gonna go down. I gotta go back
and look at the stats, I know. But yeah, I
see that adds a little more color than that. But
I just feel like, because of what happened in the game,
it was, it was. It's extremely New Orleans is totally

(01:56:19):
underrated in terms of most difficult places to play. It's
it's the fans are right there. If you have family,
they're like, good luck, they better wear Saints Jersey's like,
it's it's wild, you know. And if you're the lights above,
you're catching punts Like I feel like they turn our
extra light on and you can't see they start swirling

(01:56:41):
or something. Yeah, it's nuts, you know. Then you might
see a little black and Voodoo Doll in the stand
out and I'm kidding, Hey, there might be a market
for this patent pending patent and not for you, Will,
but for other point. We'll talk about this idea. Man,
that's it. Maybe that's the next iteration of our our
business expansion. Will. How about we just keep getting it

(01:57:05):
done on the radio and that's eventually, you know, we'll
get we'll get moved up to prime time and hold
it down and bring you know, Vincent Sam with us.
Yeah at Will Blackman on Twitter and Instagram at NFL
wine guy, find me over at Swollen Dome. Um, that's
fascinating story. Adding more flavor to the kirk cousins, uh

(01:57:25):
stu as it were coming out. Next we will talk
about well, if your team is out of the playoffs
and they're sitting at home, maybe you want to adopt
something that's going on in the great state of Ohio.
We'll talk about it next year on Fox. Don't listening
to Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back in Fox Sports Radio

(01:57:45):
and this is Fox Football Sunday. Mike Harmen alongside Will
Blackman having some fun with you as we get ready
for the second half of the divisional games coming up
a little over three hours from now, we'll have Houston
at Kansas City. More on that game coming up in
about twenty five minutes from now. In ten minutes, we'll
talk about when a running back gets dunked on. I
know it's a bad analogy to use the the NBA world,

(01:58:08):
but since we talked about the smacking, SmackDown running style
employed on Saturday, we'll see how much more finesse and
change today. But they need to have a smack also,
Seattle needs to do They didn't have a SmackDown running style.
I need that well, and that's what we'll we'll try

(01:58:29):
to ascertain here as we have another hour to go
here in the show, Marshawn Lynch, can he be that
guy with one week of practice? I think Marshawn much
Shawn came in the game and do what he did,
get some you know, some goal line points and dive
in midair and and how about that. That's that's a

(01:58:49):
hard tackle when a big as do like that in
mid air. Yeah, good with that. Well, it goes back
to all the physics people were trying to teach us
last week with Deshaun Watson. But I think this this
week gave him another week to get in shape. Uh,
in in game shape to you know, carry the football
more effectively. Him and Turban and Homer. So I think

(01:59:10):
you'll see more and more elaborate style uh style of running. Definitely,
lots of play action because he's Smith. Boys, he's Smith
brothers are ready to go. Got to hold him back
and keep him on keep on. Yeah, I keep him
off balance, chip them, chop them, you know, put him

(01:59:30):
in coverage if necessary. Uh. The unique thing that happens
with the packages that Mike Petton lines them up in
different places all all over. So that's what's cool. Unique
pressus Smith. He's able to drop in courbage. He's that athletic.
I was with him on the Redskins, so I'm really
happy to see him be successful. But if it comes
down to where it goes back and forth between Aaron

(01:59:53):
Rodgers and Russell throwing the football, I feel like it's
going to be more so in Aaron's favor. This question
of whether that's Seattle offensive line. I mean, how much
chipping and how much work can you get out of
those backs to buy Russell Wilson that extra half second
as well? And you never know they all of a
sudden just they just might come out of nowhere and

(02:00:14):
just everyone's hitting on all cylinders. But know how important
it is. Five guys play together. We'll see if that goes.
How about this one, State Medical Board of Ohio. Maybe
you missed this over the course of the week. I
wanted to get Will's perspective on this. Considering a petition
as to whether Browns or Bengals fandom should be a
qualifying condition to legally obtain medical marijuana. So they've got

(02:00:35):
a list of all the because well for being a
Browns or Bengals fan. Yeah, depression and long long suffering.
Can you put that and disclose that as a reason
for your illness? Well, then legalize of the players? Who
suffers worse? Well, that's what people always want to debate, right,
how much do players suffer with the laws versus we'll

(02:00:57):
get them next time? I don't know. Oh, that's silly.
Who who did that? I don't know. State Medical Board
of Ohio. People just trying to add things to the petition.
Think about that. If you're there are some there are
some prominent medical buildings there, So submissions for potential new
qualifying well, no for new conditions as to whatever is

(02:01:21):
already on the books, but now they want to add
team fandom, so you can expand this to the Jets,
maybe now the Vikings again, I don't know. Thanks Man.
As as always, Sam, I always say I'm on fire
here Fox Football Sunday. He's Will Blackman, I'm Mike Armen.
Coming up next. We will get back into the Seattle

(02:01:43):
Green Bay game. Uh and Aaron Rodgers, what does this
mean for the largest of his career. We get into
it next year on Fox. Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Greet eggs. Welcome in Fox Football Sunday continues Mike Harmon
alongside Will black In twelve years in the league, Super
Bowl Champion, Buddy my partner here at Will Blackman on

(02:02:07):
Twitter and Instagram at NFL wine Guy, where you can
find him as well. Find me over at Swollendow For
three hours until kick off. We just had the great
scene of Patrick Mahomes arriving and got some weather in
Green Bay, a lot of snow on the overnight, so
they had all their seven hundred lined up to go
and shovel. You gotta shovel in twelve bucks an hour,

(02:02:28):
will my shovel and days are over act. You know
what's crazy. I lived in Rhode Island. I lived in Massachusetts.
Did you live in quo Hog? Let me finish? Okay,
and it's quah hog. Wow, that's terrible. I lived in
Rhode Island, Massachusetts and Green Bay. Guess where I had

(02:02:52):
to shovel the most, No Virginia in Virginia. Yes, and
you did all that. Yeah, it actually made an event
out of it. The whole community came out. We allway
shovel and I the guy passed out beers and you
know who do you to cooler? Just put it in
the snow? Right? You were good? That's a good point.
I mean well, I mean that was part of it.

(02:03:12):
Took me two hours to get my wife's truck out
of the parking spot. Two hours. That's a hell of
a lot of shoveling. Okay. I had a back like
Lex Luger when I was done. Look at that prime
Lex Luger reference torture rack is the finishing maneuver, nicely done.
Probably have a Lex Luger action figure somewhere in a

(02:03:34):
box at my parents place. We're on a street that
coming back out with the wrestling ice cream bars. I
know right. Is that not cool? It's very cool? Right?
That is one that will definitely make its way here
to the Fox Sports radio studios if that comes to fruition,
I would just decapitate the wrestling and throw the ice
come away. Look at joke you gave me all. I'm

(02:03:56):
all dark and twisted and blah blah alady tell you
you know you're so more of it and you decapitated
dude and the rest of the ice cream. I wanted
no part of it. Hey, a guy who got worked
a bit, not quite decapitated, but for social media purposes
last night I guess he did. Was Melvin Gordon of

(02:04:16):
your Los Angeles Chargers, at least for now, waiting to
see what happens here, uh coming up in the off season.
But yesterday he went in on Twitter and as we
watched the celebration of Derrick Henry in the run game
for the Tennessee Titans and certainly also earlier the San
Francisco forty Niners and what you saw from Tevin Coleman

(02:04:38):
and where he mostered, Gordon took the Twitter saying quote,
we ain't needed with a pensive emoji, but a running
back carrying this whole team through the playoffs. Now was
light hundred times. It was retweeted five five times, only
two hundred comments, but most of them dragging Melvin Gordon

(02:04:58):
for his holdout, for his formants, for issues at the
one y hard line, you name it as it went down.
Will just seem one of those you take the l
and your back off. You just you don't. He has
to mute that conversation. Okay, that's that's a tough one.
He said, you have to learn how to do it,
and you have to learn from the master. And the
master is is Richard Sherman right now, because he has

(02:05:20):
every single thing to back it up. You can't see
anything to him because if you do, he has he
has proof. So we can say, like the whole thing
about you know, being your own agent, betting on yourself,
you know, got hammered for it. Yeah it was a risk,

(02:05:41):
but it worked out for him. But in the end,
if he's happy with the deal, right and he hadn't
sentive built in but he but he he still had
to like play his behind us and right, so but
that was the point when he came down and that
contract was signed. We'll hear from Richard Sherman in the
second when because I know that was a big deal.
It was that two weeks ago where that really blew

(02:06:02):
up again and I remember it at the time, and
people were mad about like, all right, so he cut
out an agent, and maybe maybe there's something a devil
in that he looks. You can hire a lawyer to
look over a contract. Plenty of people that do contract
all to protect yourself. I have an outside source that
looks at my you know, other deals right now, right,
here's another look. See, just make sure am I missing something?

(02:06:23):
Is there something in the language where him as opposed
to paying of your whatever multimillion dollar or whatever it
is contract? Right? And in the end, if you were
happy enough to sign it, then you live up to
that contract, right, And whatever incentives are built in, whatever
opportunities or limitations or stipulations there are, it's all him, right.

(02:06:45):
He spoke for himself, negotiated and went through. So if
he's happy with the end result, everybody else can argue
about what quote he should have gotten. You don't know,
you're not in those negotiations, because even if you can't
compare him one to one, contracts are off the same,
and people try to do it and break that down
all the time. Quarterback one versus cornerback too. Well, there's

(02:07:07):
different thing. The whole thing was. I didn't want to
go off on that. It was just a matter of
if you're gonna go on there and be like this
is why X, Y and Z, well, this is why
you know, go and back it up. We'll get to
the Richards Sherman sound as you were talking about a
backing it up in just a moment. But we've got
some breaking news. We gotta go over to Isaac Lolancron.

(02:07:31):
Breaking news from Fox Sports being rapp report of NFL
Media just reported that the Cleveland Browns are planning to
hire Vikings offensive coordinator Kevin Stefanski as their new head coach. Fellas,
thank you, Ilo, Well, there's a little bit of a
different direction in things, and now the wheels starts spinning

(02:07:53):
of what it means on the NFL overall. So Stefanski,
we watched the offense over the course of the year
with Dalvin Cook when healthy, Dalvin Cook a beast with
feeling Diggs, Kyle Rudolph to a lesser extent, and Kirk
Cousins big time production at times, but now gets the

(02:08:14):
keys to the Cleveland Browns kingdom, according to this report
from Ian Rappaport. And you've got skilled positions players for days,
but elevating. I mean, I guess you saw enough from
the development of Kirk Cousins under him to to Warrant saying, hey,
he can go fix Baker Mayfield. Well, if you if
you want to go player for player, you can say

(02:08:36):
that you know, Baker and Kirk are similar and what
they can do. Probably Baker's more mobile, Um, Adam THELN
O b J m hm. You know, obviously O b
J is way more dynamic, but similar like rot running
styles in terms of how they get open, can catch anything. Um.

(02:08:56):
And then in terms of like that aggressive catch, you know,
run the difficult routes, catch those slants in between, in between.
You know, linebackers Giggs, Landry good comparisons right the ones
right top. He was leading the league for a little
bit in Russian Dalvin Cook. You got Chubb and you
got Kareem Hunt and in theory you getting Joe coup

(02:09:19):
back off injury. But at the end of the day,
it's not about xs and os. It's can you be
the leader of this team and you know hold everyone
accountable and be disciplined? Can you coach this team like
I could. I could go to Cleveland and right now
and draw up some great place. Well, you got a
lot of talent? Yeah, absolutely, as long as I got

(02:09:41):
five guys that can line up and protect and saying
I legic right now, can go to Cleveland and get
us get production. As a as a play caller, Now
what happens if we're not getting production and people are
getting ticked off and now everyone is starting starting pointing
fingers and get upside of each other. It's like kinds
the fancy coming there and change the culture. That is

(02:10:03):
the problem at the end of the day. It is
not talent, is not so much play calling. It is Okay,
are we going to come out the first game and
get ten penalties? Right? Well, I mean we had a
full I mean that would be half of what they did.
I mean the first game and an ejection, right and
the guy kicked somebody in the face. Yeah, the whole
Miles Garrett. Things that happened later, but that's just there.

(02:10:25):
You go through there the entirety of their season, and
and really going on for years with Haslim, it's always
the question of does he change his mind right, and
what which direction he wants to go is seemingly you
get You brought in a personnel guy in Dorsey to
where it seemed like, all right, you put the executive
in charge that now builds and they put together a
great array of skill position players. But there was no

(02:10:49):
adult in the world. I feel like this is who
we wanted last year. Hasselm I think hasn't wanted to
fansk you last year that this is the guy. And
instead he listened and and they listened to Baker Mayfield
because of the success that they had. I guess so,
like I said, I feel like he had a lot
of power and and what's being said, and it proves
because there hasn't been one, not one person that building

(02:11:12):
was like yo, like like chill out man. I never
understood that. Like and I know Dorsey is a GM
you don't get in front of the microphone as much.
But we never had the back channel reports of him
trying to take over, whether it be Freddie Kitchens and
shutting him up. I feel like like he was just
to buy time to hopefully get somebody else. But we'll see,

(02:11:36):
I mean, we'll see. You know, it is interesting It's
just interesting because we're talking a little bit about the
Ravens and the loss and people trying to put big,
grandiose statements on what it means for Lamar Jackson and company.
And I can only bring it back to you know,
we we do the euphemism in our lives of hey,
we're not promised tomorrow, and it's reality, right, you don't

(02:11:58):
know what the day is gonna bring and what's sun
up tomorrow does. But likewise, in the NFL year to year,
teams changed so quickly. There's so much turnover in free
agency and aptitude and ability for players and the rest
of your division slash conference catching up and maybe passing
you by. Cleveland assembled one hell of a roster of

(02:12:20):
skill position players. Yeah right, And is Stefansky part of
his initial job not only getting getting ahold of Baker
Mayfield and saying all right, here's what's expected, but also
probably trying to allay whatever issues are going on with
O O B J as well. Well, that's what made
the Cleveland job so attractive for for Dorsey. I mean
he literally had a blank canvas, right, tons of pick

(02:12:43):
tons of cap. Yeah, we can say, you know, kudos
to the previous regime. But um, for him to go there, yes,
you had to hit on every pick and I think
he did a fantastic job steel being Nick Chubb in
the second Um. But yeah, that's okay. You got, like
I said, you gotta play caller. Cool now you gotta

(02:13:04):
have he's got to be the adult in the room.
And I guess that's what because he had to say
here because they can they can look over at um
what Chicago did and he gotta they gotta play caller
or what Green Bay did. They went and got a
play caller. But those teams didn't have culture issues, right,
they didn't you know, they didn't have those things going
on there. Um, they just had it. Okay, how can

(02:13:28):
we find ways schematically to maximize what we have? That
was that was their deal. Cleveland doesn't have that problem.
Cleveland's got a multi generational I mean, that's why they
were petitioning to have weed. Well, I mean that that's
what we're talking about, is that fans long suffer because
it is supposed to be the year I didn't buy.
I still had him third in the division, thinking Pittsburgh

(02:13:49):
before Ben Roethlisberger's injury, and even it was gonna go
one way or the other right, either at all clicks
or or it burns, and it burned. Week after It
was like that, like a bar sort of going for
the knockout and all of a sudden he just gasses out.
He's gonna get a knocker or not, and you wasted
a fantastic year from your run game. I mean, Nick
Chubb was right, this was the year the North was was.

(02:14:13):
I feel like it was wide open. They got the
win against Baltimore and just like Tennessee did, right, that
shows you, yeah, right exactly, that shows you right there,
that win against Baltimore is like they are way more
than capable. You know, Oh b J barely got a
thousand yards this year? Yeah you got there? What week seventeen?
I think? Right? But yeah, it's interesting, right because the

(02:14:35):
obvious fallout becomes wasn't this supposed to be Josh McDaniels job?
So back to New England, back to the drawing board
doesn't lend a little more credence to all Right, the
band gets back together for one more run. Maybe Tom
Ki's messing with them. I feel like after they lost
to the Eagles in Super Bowl, I thought, I thought

(02:14:58):
if they won that year. Everyone's gonna take off Ryan
to the sunset, hence Josh, you know, going for the
colch job. And Tom's like, guys, guys, come up, come out,
come back, guys, come back, guys, come back. Let's let's
do it again. Do it again. Then they went and
they do it again. This year. I feel like it
was once again, let's get number seven, let's ride. You know,

(02:15:19):
Josh is gonna do the interviews. Everyone's gonna get you know,
do the interviews. Check it out. Last year it was
Brian floor As that left went to Miami, and then
Tom's like, all right, guys, bring it back, bring it
back in, bring it back in. I don't know, maybe
the band gets back together one more time. And I
didn't say higher who Okay, who's gonna be a d C.

(02:15:41):
That's the question. That is a fantastic question. We'll keep
an eye on this as it develops. We'll get back
into the Richard Sherman side of things. Betting on Yourself
will twelve years in the league with a great perspective
on how Richard Sherman approaches his craft and when he
takes to the microphone. We'll get that with you next

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We are tracking the world of the NFL. Breaking news
coming down early on a Sunday morning for you ahead
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(02:16:47):
Browns have decided on their man. Kevin Stefanski, thirty seven
year old coordinator for the Vikings. We just talked about
the dud he laid uh last last night. Sixty eight
yards after their second drive, That's right, that's all they managed.
Seven play, seventy nine yard touchdown drive, a big play

(02:17:09):
at the Stefon Diggs and then a lot of three
and ounce only seven first downs achieved, but now the
head coach reportedly from Ian Rappaport of your Cleveland Browns,
and as you laid out, will a lot of one
to one comparison of from a personnel standpoint of what
you're able to do and what you see. But certainly

(02:17:30):
a lot of heads scratching this morning on some guys
that didn't get hired. A lot of head scratching. Um.
You know, I I rallied for and it wasn't so
much of because um loud and and I want to
I'm really you know, slamming my fist on the table
for the Rooney rule. I just thought, just looking at

(02:17:51):
all the coaching candidates, I really thought Eric bin Andy
was a great candidate to be in Cleveland. Um, you know,
in that in that offense with with Andy Reid and um,
I felt like he definitely was a man of character
from a player. Uh, guys respected him. I mean his
relationship with Adrian Peterson is one to be noted. Um yeah,

(02:18:15):
I mean he was interesting. I I don't know. My
biggest thing is you can go in there and and
call plays, have a potent offense, but is it gonna
fix the cultural issues on that team? And we for example,
it looks like at Dallas the number one offense, right,

(02:18:38):
not in the playoffs? What's going on? So what they do?
They go higher man with some pedigree. Well, when we
watched it over the course of the season, right much
many times the video was very damning to Jason Garrett
through the year, right that he'd lost respect, he'd lost
the locker, whatever phraseology you want to put on it.

(02:19:00):
Defense coming off after a big stop and he's trying
to raw rab putting the fist, Guys walking by him,
Guys looking the other way, walking past or looking back
at their teammate like what are we doing here? Yeah,
I mean you feel bad? And then you you look
at um Cleveland like everyone's yelling at Freddy on the sideline, right,
I mean, just one after another, and Jervis Landry probably

(02:19:20):
just goes to work, right, and he got he Jervis
Landry is one of the hardest working receivers I ever
had to defend. Because past play he ran all day long,
run play, he blocked all day long. I mean, right here,
I got a huge callus in my finger. I snapped
my finger in half because trying to get off a block,
my finger got caught in his jersey. This and this

(02:19:43):
was run away. This is a run to him. Usually
run yeah, run to you want to block shout this
is this was like a pitch to the complete opposide
of the field, and he was blocking me like I
mean like it was no tomorrow, no days off. It
wasn't an issue of him being such a diva. He
just but my point is everyone everyone was doing at Freddy.

(02:20:03):
There were so many things that was so I wasn't
sure if it wasn't an issue of talent. It was
just so My thing is I just I just tweeted out,
I'm like, dude, this is not me, you know, being arrogant,
I talking trash. I I legit. Could go to Cleveland
right now and have a successful offense. I could. I
could coach the top ten offense. The issue would be

(02:20:26):
what happens when somebody is upset with something? What happens
if something gets outline? What happens if a fight breaks out?
What happens if there's a contract dispute, What happens if
somebody one of our star places deal with an injury?
You know, how do I handle that? Look at you?
Look at somebody like Mike Tomlin. I mean that's the
perfect example. What has he not dealt with since being

(02:20:48):
the coach? Look at the cast of characters that have
been in in through those doors through the years, right,
all your star players and go back and I want
a book on the teen season, eighteen season, even before that.
I mean, he's dealt with his two two biggest players
that he had been the Roethlisberger had some legal stuff,

(02:21:09):
legal stuff off field, we'll leave Antonio Brown had some,
Tina Brown has some too, Brown some legal stuff. You know,
there's been trades, there had been this and that. They
had all kinds of stuff going on that you got.
He's dealt with everything, Mark Tavis Bryant, you had Levy
on Bell missing games due to suspension. You had all
kinds of things, sort of things that to navigate. Never

(02:21:30):
below eight and eight McCarthy, as you mentioned, you know,
going to Dallas. You know what you're getting with him,
and he's been to the top of the mountains right now.
And a lot of the criticism or questions when it
came to the enemy was well he didn't call players
like well and right, and in Minnesota, I want you know,
you raise your hand going well, you got Gary Kubiak

(02:21:52):
over the top, so right there, right, so you got
that whole equation as you go as well. So when
these high rings go down, reasons why not? Obviously we're
not in the room, we don't know the conversations, and
we don't know the mindset necessarily. This just looks like
a one for one swap to a lot of it

(02:22:13):
when you go to Cleveland. Richard Sherman, as we were
talking about him a little bit earlier, he tweets out, wow,
just wow, jes wo w. Guess I should have expected
it wow and leaving it at that. So certainly it's
going to be the next iteration of the discussion because
there's a lot of fallout that goes down with this.

(02:22:34):
As to coordinators going back, what does it mean for
the Patriots as we talked about, probably means you're leaning
towards keeping the band together for one more go around
in Minnesota? Does does this signal anything on Mike Zimmer's
job right because he was on the quote hot seat,
they win one playoff game, does that get him off it? Uh?

(02:22:55):
I don't think he's on the hot seat. No, not
at all, because everything, everything is still there they're not.
They're not far off. I mean they went and got
a signature win, and yeah they went to San fran
And and did not do well. But they're not They're not.
They're far off. It's always that question of A to B,
B two C and when you decide that definitely worked
out Terence Newman. That was interesting. Did you see that
they worked them out? Newman corner Terren Shimmans as old

(02:23:19):
as I am. They worked him out. About that. Zimmer's
a guy from Dallas. That's kind of interesting. Long two
thousand three in the league. That's a long, long run.
Good for him. I guess at Will Blackman where you
find him on Twitter and Instagram at NFL wine guy,

(02:23:40):
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I just wanted to see Sala promoted to the next job,
because you want to talk about a guy who's a
good hype man and culture guy, and we saw him

(02:24:03):
taking a phone call yesterday, right he was captured as
he was coming out of the locker room, and I
was wondering what it was all about. Well, not the
headman in Cleveland. Uh. This time around, we'll continue with
Richard Sherman and his response to the forty niners big
win of yesterday and moving on. That's coming up Max,
But first it's isaacloa grown with watch trending starting off

(02:24:25):
in Cleveland. I'm sure indeed, Michael and Willie and Rappaport
reporting that the Cleveland Browns have selected Minnesota Vikings offensive
coordinator Kevin Stefanski is their new head coach. Stefanski, thirty
seven years old, had been a Vikings assistant coach since
two thousand and six. On the field Saturday night, Derrick
Henry of the Tennessee Titans ran for one and even

(02:24:46):
threw a touchdown pass as Tennessee knocked out the one
seed in the a f C. The Ravens in Baltimore
no less twenty eight to twelve, advancing to the a
f C Championship Game to face either the Kansas City
Chiefs or the Houston Texans, who meet today at three
oh five Eastern at Arrowhead. Earlier Saturday, the forty. Niners
advanced to the NFC Championship Game with the seven to

(02:25:10):
ten victory over the Minnesota Vikings. They'll host the Packers
or the Seahawks in the NFC Championship Game next Sunday.
It'll be Green Bay hosting Seattle today at lambeau Field
coming up at six forty eastern. And finally, also in
the NFL, Oh, lord, won't you buy me a Mercedies bands? Yes.

(02:25:31):
Patriots receiver Julian Edelman arrested overnight in Beverly Hills for
jumping on the hood of someone's Mercedes bends and causing damage.
He was cited from misdemeanor vandalism and Lord, what a
Mercedes bands? Thank you, Janet, and now back to you,
Michael and will wow little Janice Joplin as we get

(02:25:54):
things rolling, Janice not Janet. Here on Fox Stards Radio,
I listened to Ilo Malone. Did I say Janet? And Janet?
Actually that's not her, Miss Jackson. If you're nasty, jeh my, apologies,

(02:26:14):
Thanks Hilo, appreciate Mike Carben alongside will blackmen having some
fun with you. We've got the word out of Cleveland.
They've got their head coach, reportedly Kevin Stefanski from the
wonderful world of the Minnesota Vikings. He moves on it well,
winning doubt just say, big brother in the holding company,

(02:26:36):
you'll be all right. Oh, nicely done, well played. Yeah,
I like that now. So we're we're tracking the next level,
right because obviously the other thing the Browns need is
they need to find themselves a a fun and exciting
new GM to pair with their shiny new coach. So
we're keeping an eye on reports out of Cleveland. Berry

(02:26:58):
who was there. He's he's a possible phil Ladelphia. That
is hard. Yeah, So they requested permission on Saturday to
interview him. So potentially that's where the pairing occurs. So
we'll see. So the coaching hires Ron Rivera to Washington,
Mike McCarthy to Dallas, Matt Rule goes down with a
giant pile of cash, Uh to Carolina, and decisions on

(02:27:21):
their quarterback to come Joe Judge to the Giants and
to the Browns Stefanski. We'll get to Richard Sherman in
just a second, because I think it's an important minute
of audio as a guy in his career, and Will's
got great insight on this rule and judge their speeches,
they sounded more like I need booster money to build
a facility, or I'm trying to recruit you to my college. Well,

(02:27:42):
I mean, look look at those hires. Okay, let's go
to let's let's start the actually have the whole pretty
much most of the East NFC East, the Redskins higher, right, Well,
what was what do you think the issues were on
the Redskins? What would you say? Well, you got in inconsistency.
It's the quarterback iss that you guys can't stay healthy.
So Adrian Peterson is there's your run game. Defensively defensive

(02:28:06):
backfield struggled. Yeah, there's just but even bigger than schematically.
It's just once again, it's their culture, you know. But
it's Daniel Snyder and Bruce Island's famous quote during the
his his his A press conference was the coach was
pretty damn good. Well it wasn't because your coach, your
hair coach is gone. And now and now he's gone,
you know, you get something. You get somebody in here

(02:28:27):
who is well respected, who can tell everyone to be quiet.
They're gonna listen and have some pedigree. They get Ron Rivera. Okay,
you go to Dallas. They have talent, but for some reason,
they just can't figure it out. They can't put it
all together. It's like they have a band full of
like great musicians, but they're all playing attitude. No one's
in sync, you know, and they just can't figure it out.

(02:28:51):
So you go get Mike McCarthy once again, a guy
who has done it, a guy who has been there,
a guy who has integrity, a guy who's well respected.
You you go get him their culture. You go to
the Giants. You know, I don't know much about Judge,
but he did come from New England. Is you know?
You have that on your Alabama before that exactly, so

(02:29:13):
you have that on your resume. And here's the thing too,
about hiring special team coaches. Those guys you are pretty
much another head coach. They call a special team because
it's literally another team within the team, a sub team,
if you will, And it's a whole. Every time we
start those special team meetings, the coach, every every time
I've been on the coach goes, hey, okay, guys, switch

(02:29:33):
gears now, like let's get focused on special team. It's
not like your position on defense or offense like special
teams as a whole entity. So I hear I hear that,
and then go to Carolina tapping His whole thing was
he wanted old school toughness, rule right, old school, old
line coach, innovative process. Goes to Baylor and flips the

(02:29:57):
script and changes that for them, And so I see
he got exactly what he was looking for. And yes,
I'll take care of you, like let's go, We'll build
a business. Right. I mean he's a fun guy. So
it's coming from a business mindset, because that's the way
he approached making a decision on Ron Rivera. Right, It's like,
here's where we are, Here's where I want to be.

(02:30:17):
And rule did it at Temple a couple of ten
winning seasons, and then he goes and Baylor, which was
after the Art Briles staff, it was how do we
turn this around? And and a positive and so everyone
the analytics and everything else that he's got going away
from the coaching side, so every everything was clear in
terms of what each team was looking. I can say

(02:30:38):
the Giants want everyone's still on the side because his
name came out of nowhere. Um, but Cleveland is what
is your what is your plan. You interviewed everybody you
can think of. It was like twelve vers exactly what
is your plan? Are you waiting for someone to go
in there and be like just while you like, what
is your plan? And uh like your issues where if

(02:31:01):
you're looking for a business perspective, like look what you
what your issues were? You know? And it was it
was a culture thing. I spoke to a coach in
the beginning of the season and I was like, man,
you guys look good this year. He goes, yeah, but
I'm I'm nervous about the culture. I'm nervous to see
what's gonna happen, you know, because yeah, we got a
lot of pieces it can go well. And that's and

(02:31:22):
I thought about that too. I was like, man, I
heard it from somebody in the building. You know, it's
funny because we talk about Dallas, right, and you bring
in McCarthy and and we we've gotten into the garret
stuff a little bit today, but we look at how
they reacted because coming into the year, if you said,
all right, give me your all fifty three and kind
of rank them where you're at, right, Dallas and Philadelphia

(02:31:43):
were pretty pretty much on everybody's lists. Coming in healthy
would have been in the top ten, right, and Philadelphia
is set by injuries all the way that Josh McCown story,
he's playing the second half with his hamstring off the
bone in the whole nine yard, I mean, and were
still one play away from advancing with the littany bodies.

(02:32:04):
You talk about what Doug Peterson and what that locker may.
I respect all the injury stories that come out, but
everyone is no one's healthy. Everyone gets jacked up. Dude, Sure,
but you're you're missing bodies, but you still have to
place bodies. And because it I gotta imagine week eight,
week nine, it's pretty easy for a team and go,
hey man, this is just not our year. Look at
everybody's hurt. We're down to our fifth receiver, literally everything

(02:32:27):
out of that roster. Right, So I mean you have
that where you have these other places where you got
a bunch of talent. You're like, all right, where's the
missing ingredient? Right? Because New England, nobody ever comes into
the year saying they've got an all fifty three that
you're thrilled about. Never that, dude, that's I'm glad you
said that. I I spoke to after the two thousand
sixteen season on the Redskins. I remember I met with

(02:32:50):
Jake Gruden in his in his office and he looked up.
He had like our roster and we had like New
England's roster, And basically it was like, if we go
player for a player, we're we're legit doing had a
bunch of outcasts to your point, like they don't have

(02:33:11):
they don't have like stud first rounders all over the
place on that team. What happens this guys walk into
that culture, that building, and they maximize everything that they have,
and guys, guys get it, and they totally end up
buying in. And you can see that's why the same
teams are always in it. And now you have a

(02:33:32):
guy who's you know, we've always criticized what happens when
guys leave New England to coach. Now you've got Mike Vrabel,
at least for the moment, looks like Tennessee has taken
on a lot of that New England person They're taken
out all of Rabel's personality and and if you look
at the guys on that team, though, like those are

(02:33:52):
the type of players individually that could do it, you know,
and I can say I can say the same for
for Philly. They had every reason to mail it in
this year, every reason to make up any excuse. But
they didn't. They lost their they lost their starting receivers.
All three of them kept going. Miles Sanders becomes an

(02:34:17):
in the backfield, right, Jordan Howard, the guys going up Boston.
Scott becomes and he's my height, so I got a
cheer for him. What it is find the little guys.
He's little black. But I'm by Carmen. I wanted to
get to this really quick. We've got Richard Sherman yesterday, right,
nobody counted out the defense. We love the defense, but
you always try to find in the analysis why he's

(02:34:40):
always good. And here's Richard Sherman's response. I get tired
of hearing, oh man, he's his own corner. I get
tired of hearing the excuses for why I'm great. It
was man coverage. I covered the man. I picked the
ball off in the playoffs. In big games, I'll show up.
I'll show up year in year out, whether it's two
thousand and eleven, two thousand twelve, two two thousand fourteen,
unless I tear my achilles I'm out there and I'm

(02:35:00):
doing my job at a high level, and I think
I get tired of the excuses, you know, for why
why I'm good? Oh my god, they're playing on Oh
my god, it was this guy. Oh my god, receiver slipt.
Oh my god. It's it's like, why why don't other
people get those outs? You know what I mean. It's
a lot of other corners out there who have the
same outs I have. You know, It's it's odd, It's
it's it's like people got frustrated that I was so

(02:35:21):
confident early on in my career. I was so confident
early on so that people wanted me to fail, and
when I didn't fail, it's like, how do we tear
him down in other ways? How do we find a
way to tear him down? You know, I mean, how
do we find a way to rip his game apart?
Because I'm too consistent on a year in, year out basis.
You know, since I got in the league, every category
that matters to a corner, I'm number one in well,
as we were talking about a little bit earlier, will

(02:35:42):
for those that that missed it, I mean Richard Sherman,
Brash Bravado took to Twitter here about the the hiring
in Cleveland. But generally he's not the guy too to
initiate in these kinds of exchanges with media. With other
play years, he just finishes. Uh, he does, he does her.

(02:36:06):
The thing is he has AMMO like it's it's he's
lock and loaded for for anything. And that has been
the knock is when, especially those years when Seattle was dominating,
everyone's like, oh, they're just sitting in his own playing
Cover three. They're playing Cover three. You know, Richard Sherman
stays on the left side. He never travels. He never travels.
But when the ball is thrown, guess what, he makes

(02:36:27):
the play. When the ball is thrown to his side,
he makes the play. There was one game I remember
Wait Pittsburgh traveled to Seattle and Richard Sherman shadowed an
Tonio Brown the whole day and made it living hell
for a b abe. Had thing he has sixty yards.
Richard's like, what else do you want? Now? I'm gonna

(02:36:49):
go back to playing the left side. I answered that
question checked playing to the left side of the field.
And he's absolutely right, because there are guys who do
get the same amount of opportunities in terms of the
ball throwing at them, and you still got to make
the play. Um, whether it's say, say if he did
play zone a lot, you still gotta put yourself in position.

(02:37:10):
You still got to anticipate, still know what's gonna happen,
Still know the ball is gonna come him. Still, you know,
you look at someone like who was great in his
own Rande Barber just owned Tampa two and picked everything off. Dude.
It's it's funny people they try to find a reason.
Same thing in boxing. I was like bringing up boxing.

(02:37:31):
Maybe whether it's with you, he has he dismantled everybody.
I don't care who he thought. It's surgeon like, he
doesn't he doesn't want to watch film. Right, it doesn't
have to be pretty. It's just gotta be effective. And
in the end, the forty Niners move on in a
workman like fashion with the run game, Jimmy g doing
what he needs to take care of the ball and

(02:37:51):
smothering Kirk Cousins. Fantastic effort from them. Over on who's
winning today, Who's winning the national title? We're talking about
that coming up next has become Alive from the Geico
Fox Sports Radio studios. He's Will Black, but not Mike Harmon.
And this is Fox Sports Radio. Don't listening to Fox
Sports Radio gratings. Welcome back in Fox Sports Radio. This

(02:38:13):
is Fox Football Sunday. Mike Carmen, Will Black men with you.
Coming up about ten minutes from now, you get Steve
Hartman and Richard Ornberger. They'll take you into game time,
working about a little over two hours from kickoff Houston
and Kansas City. So why don't we start there Will
as we get into the picks and final analysis of
these games ahead to today and then obviously the national

(02:38:34):
title game, the end of our playoff run in college
football for but Houston against Kansas City back in week six,
forty minutes of time of possession and off a lot
of Carlos Hide thousand yard rusher, unheralded. Uh pick up right.
He was fourth on the depth chart of these chiefs
when things got underway, and now here we are. He's

(02:38:56):
gonna be key to what Deshaun Watson does today. And
control the football. He's gonna be important and controlled the football,
keep the football, hold onto the football because if you
give the homes the ball, he will throw up for
seventy yards and it's a touchdown. I think we were
talking about the skill position players, Nicole Hardman becoming a

(02:39:16):
handful opposite Tyreek Hill as this season war on, I
mean as it went on, because Tyreek Hill wasn't there, right,
Tammy Watkins was going off. Remember that one game. I'll
tell you what, that three touchdown game was one of
the uh finest things we've seen in recent nom and
went off. Kelsey can go off. David Williams is going
to go off. There's a lot going on. All home

(02:39:37):
run hitters, right, you got five of them, but DeShawn Watson.
Save that. Bill O'Brien's job. Throw away the script and
just let DeShawn Watson play ball. Now, from all reports,
will fall full are going to give it a go.
It's all good, but he's they're not. DeShawn Watson is there.
I'll take Houston plus the nine and a half. But

(02:39:58):
I think Kansas City still wins the game. What say you?
Kansas City? Kansas City finishing and they will face the
Tennessee Titans in Kansas City. Andy Reid also, this is
one we talked about pressure points in the playoffs. You
got Andy Reid on the in this game, five hundred
career record in the playoffs for him, I Mahomes is

(02:40:22):
his last chance because you're not gonna get another quarterback
like Mahoms after this. No, that's it. And you're also
gonna have to pay him two hundred million dollars years, right,
and then you figure out your roster from there. Uh
Seattle on the road at green Bay, we talked about
the shovelers. They got the job done. It's gonna be
called a bit of wind. Russell Wilson with his speedsters

(02:40:43):
down field. Just a question of how much he gets
out of the run game again to keep Aaron Jones
and the Green Bay run game off the field. Well,
I don't know, man, Russell Wilson got one more. He's
another something city bag. He goes to that category of
the the Russell Wilson deshrw Watson Carson wentz like, I

(02:41:07):
don't need much. Just give me a chance to give
me a fourth floor. I don't any much. I can
go into the cabinet, which there's nothing but bread, peanut butter,
you know, and maybe some other things in there that
that we we I'll make some exquisite French toast and
and something from it and down there you go gourmet meal. Yeah,
if they have wine, you know, if not, I'll get great.

(02:41:29):
I'll make wine myself exactly. So I got Packers, I
got the Packers winning. I Seattle, like Russell Wilson is
just always fascinating to watch with me. And I'm a
big fan of what Dk Metcalf has become to that offense, Hollister,
I think sneaky play here at tight end if you're
doing your daily fantasy world. Uh, last, but not least,
Clemson L s U, Trevor Lawrence Dabbos, Swiney, been there,

(02:41:53):
done that, all the fights, all the battles against Joe
Burrow and O Geron and those ls you Tigers, Tigers
v Tigers. I got Clemson winning out right. I got
L L s U finishing the job both teams fourteen
and oh and we can do our Edo see because

(02:42:16):
now what will happen is all the reports in l
A will be all about ed O being the guy
that got away and that they're still stuck with Clay Hilton.
It's all good. He's well, black man on my garment.
Enjoy the games today here on Divisional round see him.
Thank you, guys, go Tigers. You're listening to Fox Sports

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