Knox and Quinn: 12/03/2017

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. This could be one
of the crazier weekends in football. We're not talking just NFL.
We're talking college football, all sorts of fun stuff. If
you are a fan of other sports besides football, do
not listen to a second of this show because we
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(00:23):
talking NHL, we're not talking NBA. We're talking football only.
Anything else is not allowed. Brady Quinn, My man, what's
going on? Not a whole lot? Man? You said it
all right there. It's been a big weekend for NFL
in college football fans. We've now got an idea which
top four teams are playing for the national championship. But Jonas,

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as always, there's a little bit of concern. There's an
uproar in regards to who always makes that number four spot.
I'm not sure if you want to start there. But
a lot to talk about tonight. Oh, it's it's uh,
it's insanity, man, this whole college football playoff ranking. And
that's why when I when I'm hearing people this weekend going, hey,
did you see you what Tiger Woods did it the

(01:06):
rolled golds open, he shot three. It's like, get out
of here with this, like this is an important weekend
for football. We are talking pig skin here. And so
when you had all the chaos go down and the
College Football Playoff Committee determines that it was Alabama getting
the four seed, with Clemson the one, Oklahoma the to
Georgia the three. In Alabama getting the four, of course
you're gonna get big ten fans that were outraged by it.

(01:28):
I thought the committee got it right. I thought they
got it right. And it was the same thing that
Ohio State benefited from last year. They fell victim to
it this year. Let me let me ask you this,
Why do you say you got it right? What were
they got it right? Why why do you say that?
Because I'm not a believer that you have to win
your conference championship game in order to get into the

(01:48):
playoff and I and I think that Alabama. I think
the Iowa lost is what did in Ohio State. And
I think Alabama had one loss. It was on the
road in a rivalry game against Auburn. And I think
Ohio States bads were worse than Alabama's bads and that's
terrible English. But that's just I mean, honestly, that's the
way I look at it. Well, here's my only counter

(02:10):
arguments that, Right, because the college football, at least as
far as the at the Division one level, they're new
to this, right, this is only the fourth year we've
had a four team playoff to figure out who's the
national champion. The NFL is not. They've had playoffs for
a while, So I think part of the reason why
the Committee and a lot of people will get frustrated

(02:32):
when they see a non conference champion go in ahead
of them. They kind of look at it as as
a wild card spot, right, But but it's even less
than that because it's it's in the case of Alabama,
they didn't even win their division. It's not like they
got to the conference championship game and lost. They didn't
win their division. And I know Ohio State was in
the exact same boat last year as what Alabamas in

(02:52):
this year, but Jonas the biggest difference is, you know,
their their strength of schedule and and really the games
that they played last year at Ohio State, I mean,
they had a really big road victory and win versus
Oklahoma who was one of the top teams in the
country and won the Big Twelve last year. Alabama doesn't
have anything close to that on the resume. Hold, excuse you,
you're just gonna dismiss Mercer like that exactly which which

(03:16):
comes and and that's and that's I think that's part
of the frustration for Big Ten fans is when everyone
else is playing meaningful games, the SEC has a bunch
of lay ups, I mean literally layoups, essentially buys in
playing teams like Mercer, not even FBS opponents like it's
it's it's such a slap in the face, I think

(03:36):
to the College Football Playoff commtee and everyone else because
if you want to play those in September, I'm still
not okay with it, but have at it. Feel free
to play those laps, then play conference games when it's
in November, the end of the season, when everyone else
is at that point or they're at least playing FBS
and tougher opponents like like. That's one of my biggest

(03:57):
gripes I think is there's just not enough consistency, which
we all the power of five conferences and there can
be I mean, the other issue I think you have
with the SEC has they only play eight conference games,
you know, in the Big Ten they play nine, So
that additional game, like I don't know, maybe Iowa could
end up to come back to bite you where you
have to play on the road versus an opponent that
it's not the best opponent. But if you go out

(04:19):
there and lay an egg, they'll beat you, and they'll
beat you bad. Because they're also a team that took
another top twenty ranked team in Penn State to the wire,
to the length of the game. So so so my
only issue is is my biggest issue is this. They
don't have you close to the resume that Ohio State
did last year when Ohio State got in the playoff,
Like trying to use last year as an indication of

(04:39):
why Alabama should get in. You haven't watched enough football.
You haven't seen Alabama play games. But but there's a
lot of different ways we can break this down. Yeah, okay,
and now here's here's what else I want to bring
up to you, Because how much do you factor in
what they call the eye test? All right, just looking
at the each of these teams, is Alabama a better
team than Ohio State? Because I believe that they are. See.

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My only issue with that is, like, what tells you
that because they dominated a very very weak SEC West.
I mean, let's be honest, quarterback play in the SEC
has been awful. It's been awful. And I know we
don't have enough time to talk about this now so
we can come back to it, but I mean literally,
like like we need to talk about at some point
like the eye test. I don't even know how you

(05:21):
apply that to SEC teams. Well, listen, we've got it.
We've got three hours to play with. But right now
we do want to welcome in Michael Thomas, Saints wide
receiver with this here on Fox Sports Radio. Michael, thanks
so much for the time. Jonas knocks Brady Quinn with
you here on Fox Sports Radio. Congrats on the win, Yes, sir,
thank you. Hey, um, so, how much different is this
offense now that you guys have really incorporated a running game.

(05:43):
You're playing a little bit better defense obviously than than
years past. How much different and how much more confident
are you guys as an offensive unit, as a team,
as whole as a whole just looking at how this
game is, Your games are playing out so much differently
than how they were before with high school high scoring affairs,
depending on you guys to put up thirty or forty
each game. Um, you've gotta give credit to UH the

(06:06):
staff upstairs for bringing the right guys in here, putting
the right tours around Drew Brees and UM allowing guys
to show their talents. Um, you know, it's exciting. Everyone
I touches the ball has the ability to do something
special with it. When we spread guys out, it's like,
who do you match? So it's fun and we're just
reaping the benefits and trying to play. It's a high
standards Mike. If you realize that the dream scenario that

(06:28):
you've kind of been drafted into, if you think about it,
like playing with the Hall of Fame quarterback and Drew
Brees in the system in which they play, I mean,
you're the go to guy you're in, man, I mean
if you if you, I know, you've progressed a lot
to as a player, But if you realize the fortunate
situation that you're in, UM, it's a lesson. Yes, I
definitely do. That's why I take pride when UH number
nine does puts the ball in the air. You know,

(06:49):
I gotta make a big play, and um, I gotta
find a way to make a catch for him because
he's the best at what he does. UM, and I
know he when he puts up ball in there and
put trust to use, he gives you a really to
thank you, so, UM, you know it's to showcase your talents.
He is Saints wide receiver Michael Thomas joining us here.
On Fox Sports Radio, Jonas knocks Brady Quinne coming off

(07:10):
New Orleans over the Carolina Panthers that just wrapped up
a short time ago. What was the first moment you
realized that Drew Brees was different than other quarterbacks. Um,
From the first day I walked in here. UM, I
watched a lot of football. You know, I have an
uncle that played in the NFL. I would I would
be that that's that's the guy, that's the example, that's
the standard. Um, That's that's it. That's Ken Ohio, that's

(07:34):
every record you know, that's record breaker, that's record center.
It's uh, you know, it's just it's just, Um, that's
great to see see that guy and go to work
with them every day and see how he approaches the game.
Less it. You know, I'm lost for words, because, Um,
because I just I just love going to work with him.
And that's that's easiest way to explain it. Michael. Obviously

(07:57):
you're a part of this team. Last year, you guys
and only seven and nine, and that was before you
really got there was the previous two seasons the Saints
went seven and nine. In your mind, what's been the
biggest difference between last year and this year as far
as why your team has been able to be so successful. Um,
you know, we're eliminating all confusion. Um, they're not getting
caught up in the house, I noise. Um. The coaches

(08:19):
are given us the game plan and they're giving it
to us straight up. Um, they're basically giving it to
us and all we have to do is out there
during the weekend execute at a high level. And UM,
I think guys are starting to realize that we don't
have to be rock stars and we don't have to
do anything special. We have to simply to do our job,
and we're taking advantage of just doing their job and
great things are happening. What changed after you guys going

(08:40):
in too did somebody stand up and start talking? Did
you guys change your practice habits? What did you do
differently that made you rattle off that long winning streak afterwards.
I mean, we're in the business of winning. Um. You know,
at the end of the day, oh and two oh
and three, at the end the day, we're trying to
win them all. Um. We didn't get off to the
start that we have and we couldn't hang our head

(09:00):
heads low. It was um, it's it's a long full
ball season. It's a journey, and UM coach presented us
with a challenge. He said, you know it was perfect.
We went oh into and then we had to go
on the road for two games, and it was gonna
define our team and then define our season. Um, he said,
we're like a band and we're going on tour and
we're either are our last. You know, this is this

(09:22):
is all we have. And we took advantage of that
and we built some momentum and we started, uh enjoying
how it's held to come and blockome after wins. Well,
you guys got a short week this week. I believe
you gotta go and take on the Atlanta Falcons and
again a lot of divisional play left to be to
be done. Um, do you look at that match up
versus a team like the Falcons one a more prolific offense,
and just kind of challenge yourself offensively to keep pace

(09:44):
with what they can do offensively as far as putting
up yards and points. Um, you know, whatever the game
thing is. Uh, Shane's played this seame uh many times.
You know it's a divisional team. Um, we're gonna we're
gonna go in there, we're gonna prep and we're gonna
we're gonna locking on this game, planning presents, listing. Then
we're gonna come out and execute into our job. Um.
You know they're talented team, but we have tours here

(10:06):
to get a job done. So we're eager to get
to that game. But we know we have a couple
of days appropriation. So then he is Michael Thomas, Saints
wide receiver, coming off another win for the New Orleans Saints.
They are now nine and three. Michael Thomas, thanks so
much for a few minutes your time. Man. We appreciate it. Yes,
I appreciate you. Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn here, Fox Sports Radio, Man,

(10:27):
New Orleans. That's just a different team this year, Like
that date, they play so much differently than what you're
used Two years past. That's why in years ago it
would always be New Orleans has got to have a
home game. Where else are going to be in a
disadvantage because we don't trust them to be able to
play outside. Alvin Kamara is fantastic and he's phenomenal. Man,
How did he fall that far in the draft? What happened?

(10:50):
I think sometimes a player like him, I think he
got caught in that debate of you know, is he
too small? Like? What is he? Is he a running back?
He's a wide receiver? Uh? He was? He is good
at both. I think sometimes guys get stuck in that.
I have to go back and look at his forty
times too, even though he plays really fast. Um, there's
a bunch of different reasons. I mean, we see guys
kind of dropping the draft lower than we think and

(11:12):
all of a sudden explode. I mean, think about Kareem Hunt.
What was he a fourth round draft pick? Remember the
way he started this season and people were shocked. Um,
So it happens from time to time. I think he's
in a great system, and I think he's he's with
a Hall of Fame quarterback and he's he's with an
offensive line that is good both run blocking, past blocking,
so they've got everything working for him right now. I
just think it goes to show you, you know, when
your team seven and nine, like if you're a huge fan,

(11:34):
you're like man or or teams. So to know we steak,
it's like, no, dude, like you're you're only a few
pieces away and a little adjustment for you know, here
and there away from being able to be a really
good team. Maybe the one that wins the division is
the number one overall seed in the NFC. Yeah, you're
you're seven and nine team. We're talking about the way
how the parody in the NFL. Now, a couple of
bounces one way, a couple of bad calls another and

(11:56):
you're ten and six. I mean that's like, that's how
close the gap is and how narrow it is between
a seven and nine team and at ten and six team. So, yeah, know,
New Orleans is good. I think the NFC playoffs are
gonna be gonna be really fun. So we've got to
all sorts of fun stuff on the NFC coming up
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of the Sunday Night game of the week coming up
in about ten minutes from now here on Fox Sports Radio.
I'm going to pose a question about one of the
teams in tonight's game. That is a question that that
I think every football fan could possibly answer. Okay, and
you probably haven't thought about it. So I think I'm

(13:01):
gonna do some groundbreaking stuff here in about ten minutes
from now how about that? How about that? I'll be
curious to see what exactly this groundbreaking stuff is. I'm
I'm curious to know why you didn't ask Michael Thomas
about Ohio State. He went to Ohio State. Why didn't
you go there with him? You know, I wanted to
ask that. With my last question but then all of
a sudden, I got the hook being told that wouldn't
have any more time with them. So unfortunately, we don't

(13:23):
get a don't know Ohio State Buckeye, he was a
part of that national championship team back in We don't
get in his opinion of the whole situation that occurred today, Well,
I mean, come on, man, the guy it's like, you know,
your buddy, you know, breaks up with somebody, they've been
together for like four years. The first thing you're gonna
ask him is, hey, what happened? Now? Come on, he
needs time to mourn. So we let Michael Thomas Morning
just enjoys victory there in New Orleans. But what do

(13:45):
you think postgame festivities are like in New Orleans after
a win? Um, I don't know what they're like after
a win. I remember losing the Sugar Bowl there and
what they were like. So yeah, but you guys can
really get after it all that much in the Sugar Bowl,
I mean after the words I would say, Yeah, I'm
talking about afterwards. What I'm saying, I mean, I just
you know, I mean a lot about a lot of
were you twenty one back then? Yeah, it's left my

(14:08):
senior year. Man, you didn't need more good time. It's
one of those deals where, honestly, like when you go
and you hang out and you don't have a good
time once, I don't. I mean, it's not like I
really need to go back again. Yeah, I hear you, man,
a little variety and you're dad, I know what you mean.
I know what you mean. A boy sandwich. That thing

(14:28):
went sideways in a harp because New Orleans po boy.
Well this was before I realized I was allergic to shrimp,
and so at that point, you know, I'm eating it.
Not only did I not feel well afterwards, immediately had
to run to the nearest crystal to find a bathroom
because that's like all that's open late night. They're around
Bourbon Street. Like you, you're that you're allergic to shrimp,

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So what's selfish? You throw it up? Or you no?
If I you never seen the movie Hitch from Will Smith, Okay,
well I'm in. I'm into what's that word good movies?
So well, this is this is a rom com. This
is a wrong comp I may or may not have
gotten baited into that um with my wife and we
were watching at some point. But anyway, that's not the
point of the story. Okay. The point of the story

(15:12):
is if anyone's seen Hitch, it's a movie where Will
Smith ends up taking I believe it's Eva Mendez out
on a date and he ends up eating some you know, shellfish.
He doesn't, he doesn't, he's not aware that he was
eating shellfish, but he's allergic, ends up having a ridiculous
allergic reaction and his face swells up. It looks like
he got in a fight with Mike Tyson and he
has to go chug a bunch of ben and drool.

(15:34):
And that is essentially exactly the protocol of what I
have to do by too much shellfish. That's amazing. So
you can't have shrimp? What a bummer, man, man, And
especially if you've ever been like bone fish, have you
ever had the Bang Bank shrimp? There? No? You know what?
My my favorite at Chinese food dishes, you get shrimp
and broccoli with white sauce and the shrimp comes out,
but you get it spicy. Oh good god. Yeah. Never,

(15:57):
well yeah, but that's every other day never, And it's
another level at a Chinese food restaurant when you go there.
All right, we'll go ahead, and hope nobody heard that. Um, alright,
So Brady Quinn, Jonahs knocks here Fox Sports Radio, Uh
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that's the case, Um, that's fine. I mean we're gonna

(16:18):
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Nick Saban upon finding out that the Alabama Crimson Tide
got the four seed in the college football Playoff, of
which piste a lot of people off, but it made

(17:02):
me happy because it pistol a lot of people off
and it's better for what we do for a living.
Here was Nick Saban earlier today. I've certainly believed and
trusted in the integrity of the committee that they would
do their very best to put the best teams in.
I really do believe that, based on a total body
of work, that our team really deserved the opportunity to
be in, and we're very pleased and happy that they did.

(17:24):
I'm sold that works for me. I'll take that answer,
and I'm good with what we got. How about that? Um? Okay,
So back to the discussion we were having before. In
all seriousness, back to the discussion we're having before. UM,
I'm gonna go back and research this. I don't know
too many teams though. This is only the fourth year
that I'm kind of looking to see how many number

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five seeds has have moved up in a number four
without playing a game, because I also find that kind
of tough to buy into, like how you can earn
getting bumped up into that spot. Um, because I want
to say last year, and again I have to go
back and double check. I want to say, last year,
how State was was within the top four? They were

(18:06):
like number three. I was thinking about that too, and
they dropped back to number what four or something like that? Right.
But but but then the thinking was they were idle.
Why did Penn State get into No no, no, no, no
no no. But here's the thing with Penn State was one,
they were a two loss Big Ten champion. Now did
they beat Ohio State head ahead, Yes, they did. But
when you again, when you looked at Ohio State's resume,

(18:28):
you kind of said, man, they had one heck of
of a season with with the exception of that one
loss to a team that went on to win the
Big Ten. I'm with you. My whole thing though, is
when you looked at their body of work, it was
much better than what we've seen from Alabama this year.
I just think this is what this is what it
came down to. Ohio State didn't win in the way
they needed to. They needed to win the Big Ten

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championship like they did in when they crushed Wisconsin goose steak,
then what nine and nothing? They needed to win like
at had they one like that? I think it changes
the entire conversation. I don't think Alabama gets in. I
just think this committee wasn't impressed by their performance in
the Big Ten championship game. They thought it was too

(19:11):
close versus Wisconsin and at that point they said, you
know what, we just can't trust this Ohio State team
this year. We can't trust them. We we we took
a chance last year, right, we jumped them ahead. Last
year they got goose egg by Clemson. We can't trust
them this year after the two losses we've seen them,
one at home versus Oklahoma by you know, double digit points,
and then that terrible loss in the road versus Iowa.

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Now here's the other part of this as well, too,
because you've had the committee acknowledge in certain situations, I
don't think at the top of the college football playoff,
but definitely in the order you know, five through ten
or fifteen or whatever they do, that injuries do factor
in that. They will look ahead and go this team
with this injury, what could they possibly do? How much
does the status of JT. Barrett because clearly wasn't he

(19:54):
clearly was not. How much of that do you think
also factored in with that because he played he did
not play well, so they didn't get the big, you know,
blowout win that they needed. Like you just said, but
how much do you think the committee looked into this
and said, Man, I don't know if we can trust
this team. Well, the problem with that is he's already
had surgery. Here, he already had surgery, so he was

(20:15):
coming off of surgery, which you you knew this was
gonna be the least healthy he was gonna be. And
he's gonna have more time to rest and recuperate for
the semifinal game. Um, and here's the thing is we
already saw the committee, you know, be able to put
in an Ohio State team that won the Big Ten
championship back in when they were playing with a third
street quarterback in cardillal Jones. So you know, I think

(20:36):
they take that into account, but I don't think that
was the driving factor in all of this. And I
think if anything, they looked at Alabama and all the
injuries that they've had this season, and they looked at
it and said, well, I think this is a team
that maybe with some additional rest, will be getting healthier.
And there it's not the same as you know, looking
at a team like Florida State that lost their starting
quarterback for the entire season, Like when you look at injuries,

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I think and I think this is true of the committee.
Kirby Hokut has said this, they look at it differently,
because if a player has a chance of coming back,
that's one thing. If he's out for the season, that's
a knock on that team. Like like they can't unfortunately
put in a team that is going to have one
of their best players the rest of the season compared
to the the one that may eventually get one back. And
and the reality of this is, and it's called the
college football Playoff, it's not a true playoff, okay. This

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is about whose opinion and and because they give themselves
so many outs, this committee has so many different reasons
why one team could get in and one team couldn't
get in, and which what makes it so fun to
debate and go back and forth which one matters most,
which one? And you can find so many inconsistencies and
all that it's not really a true playoff, okay, because
if it was a true playoff would be something like

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you know, the n c A tournament, or you'd have
a best of three or something like that. This is
about these guys finding the ability to justify their reasons,
and they give themselves enough wiggle room for every situation.
And that's and then I think that's what frustrates the
most people. But I still don't see this as a
reason why they should expand it eight games. I I
just don't. I don't see it eight teams don't either, Like, like,

(22:00):
here's the thing is expending it to eight games isn't
gonna solve anything, Okay, because then people at nine and
ten they're still upset and they're saying, well, we should
have been at number eight. We were good enough, okay,
And and for the people out there to think nine
and ten are gonna be able to compete that, they're No,
they're not. Like go back to the last couple of
years of the semifinal games, they've been awful. They really

(22:22):
have it. They've been awful. I mean last year there's
seven points scored combined between Washington and Ohio State. Seven
points combined. Like did we really think that, you know,
there was other teams besides Clemston and Alabama are the
two best in the country last year. No, Like the
BCS could have figured that out. And as much as
people hated the BCS, I don't have as much of

(22:42):
a problem with it. No, I didn't either. And like,
like if they applied the BCS to to today, like
and they had a four team Playoff. I'm sure it
would actually come out with a pretty good matchup as
far as the top four teams, and maybe these would
be the top four. And and here's the other part
of it too. You know what this current college football
playoff is. Remember years ago when there was no BCS
and it was as they voted on who is the
best team? So he had split national titles and all that,

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and they hated all that, so they went to the BCS.
This is if you were to take that old system
in the BCS and put it together. That's what this is.
Because it's the human element and it's whatever you know,
football Power Index, you know, g p I, A d
U I, whatever the hell they come up with that
that that factor in these these rankings on these teams.
It's a combination of both. And that's for But here's

(23:24):
why it's not okay. The problem is is there's a criteria,
right like when you look at like the BCS method,
and there's like a scientific method to all of this,
right that that means there's like an order and there's
a weighted scales in which they look at what are
the determining factors and which ones are more important than others.
So the problem with this group is we've seen their criteria, right,

(23:46):
there's essentially four things they talk about in particularly when
they're talking about, you know, teams that are there trying
to choose between or teams that they feel like are tied,
and they have to try to look at determining factors.
Those are championships, one head to head play, strength of schedule,
and common opponents. The problem is Kirby hook Cut has
come out and said that they don't wait any one

(24:08):
of those, They don't look at one and prioritize it
over any other of the four. So each member of
that committee can then apply of those four criteria in
whatever way they want, and that to me is where
it is completely flawed and they should have never thrown
out with their criteria. Wasn't the first place. But one
thing that would ethic help things is they just had
more transparency instead of Crepy ho Cut coming out and

(24:29):
talking about it. Why I'm making c SPAN, dude, like
c SPAN will get incredible ratings, would be better than
what we typically watch on that channel to watch them
debate about which top four teams should get. There's there's
no way they do that. There's no transparency. They will
not do it because this has been one of the
great developments in that sport, has been one of the
one of the great hit things that that sport has
come up with in a long time. I mean, it

(24:51):
is totally overshadowed the Heisman Trophy race, um conference championships.
Conference championships all of a sudden have a different impact
on things now like this. They're they're never gonna do it.
It's the best thing for the sport. It's but the
debate is great for for for college football. But and
look who's behind it. This is this is about ESPN
right there. They're They're trying to find another way of increasing
their ratings, getting you to continue to watch their programming

(25:15):
because because they're the ones that are really fueling this,
and they're the ones that are behind it, and they
see what's happening to their network and what's happening really
to the cable networks. I mean, it's not just ESPN,
but they're the ones who've been kind of fueling this,
and they're the drivers behind it. So of course they
don't mind the drama or the speculation because it only
draws more people into clicking on their website. Changing to
the channel and seeing why the top four teams are

(25:37):
sitting where they are. All right, so he is, Brady Quinn.
We'll have much more of this because, uh, I mean, wow,
you took a beating in that debate. What did I
give it to you? There? It really does that? Does?
I feel? I'm still not sure what point you came
up with to justify anything. Well, I said it, but
it was during one of the breaks and in the
other room. All right, So Brady Quinn Jonas knocks here
Fox Sports Radio Company Alive on the getic Fox Sports

(25:59):
Radio Studios. Up next, I'm gonna I'm gonna tell Brady
something about an NFL team that I think a lot
of you are going to agree with and you maybe
you haven't even thought about it yet, but it's going
to happen. You'll hear it here first. That's coming up next,
But for all the latest from around the world of sports. Hey,
Tom Broke on who's on the updates tonight? Yeah? Gas man?

(26:20):
What is up? Man? Man? What's going on? Are you
guys doing it? You hate that? You know? That's all good?
I can live with it. I'm just I'm happy to
be working with you guys. Tonight. It's always good to
have you on gas Man. Yeah, I appreciate your voice
is sending much better than the last couple. It was
garbage the last couple of weeks on Well, it was

(26:41):
so suspect. I'll say that much garbage. By the way,
David gask on The Powerhouse, he was doing clean and
Jerk last break and then he was lifting weights too.
I was, I was, I was recovering because I was
invited to a company holiday party last night and already,
yeah I wasn't. Yeah, I wasn't invited. It was the
Fox Sports Radio on. It was it was we had
a party. Why wasn't Jonas there? Well he was, he

(27:03):
was working. That's all right. I wouldn't hang out with
those nerds anyway. Well, yeah, but we had your show
actually been played during the party. Anyway. Let let me
tell you something. Those are those guys you saw at
the party last night. Those are the guys I shoved
in lockers in high school. That's a pretty big locker
for Ben Mallory's seven and heways gentleman. Sunday and football
is underway Philadelphia in Seattle. Philadelphia wins this game. They

(27:25):
captured the NFC East Crown just because Dallas had one
on Thursday and they had that six and six records,
So stay put on that. As far as other games
earlier today, you had Tennessee in Houston pull it's a
flip play left side first out of more Henry forty
safety crazy stadium down Titans. Sounds like dating with jonas Um.

(27:57):
Tennessee wins that one. Chargers, they'd be at the hapless
Cleveland Browns right now, oh and twelve in the season
nineteen to ten. You got the Chargers. Time for the
a f C West lead right now with the Chiefs
and Raiders. Kansas City got beat today in New York
by the Jets thirty eight to thirty one, as the
Saints seven to their running backs Alvin Cameron also mark
Ingram go over a hundred all purpose yards, combining for

(28:18):
three t ds as they beat the Panthers thirty one
to twenty one. Off the field, Jimmy Smith torn achilles
for the Baltimore Ravens. Done for the season. Matthew Stafford
injured his hand and he had an X ray on
it and they were negative. Antonio Brown's a game time
decision tomorrow for the Pittsburgh Steelers. And also in college football,
you guys are talking about the college football playoff. Well,
several outlets are reporting gust mells On has agreed to

(28:40):
a seven year deal with forty nine million dollars, so
he is staying put and not going to Arkansas. Amazing, man, amazing,
all that money they pay a coach. They can't even
get a treat that won't die when you poison it.
Unbelievable in all seriousness, No, man, I mean, at some
point we can talk about this. How many head coaches

(29:03):
police their universities using Tennessee as leverage. Good, ridiculous. I'm
right there with you. Good for them, Yeah, they're the
they're they're the the hot one you make everybody jealous with,
and you know they always come crawling back. Good for them,
that's that's the move, man. And they all get paid.
So listen, I mean, you know, more and more power
to them. That's what they got, all right, Thanks, Dave.

(29:24):
If we talk about one more thing, just there's the
cap off, the discussion on the playoff and all that, Like, philosophically,
there's something that bothers me, right, and maybe you can
help me figure this out because whenever it talks about
strength of schedule and they talk about like how it
factors in. The problem is we like that doesn't matter
until the end of the season, right, Like, we don't
know how good a team is until after they've played

(29:45):
all the games we figure out really how good or
bad they were, like Florida State prime example. Now, part
of that was the fact that they're starting quarterback got
knocked out the first game of the season. Maybe would
have gone differently, but at this point where they a
seven win team, I mean, that's that's what they were
this They just became BOLL eligible with the win over
Louisiana Montris excuse me, so, yeah, it would have been
a six win team then. So my point is this,

(30:08):
I kind of feel like, like as verben Meyer talked
about this, talked about like their wins and getting two
wins versus you know, top four opponents this season, Well,
yeah that was when they played those teams, right Like
Pennce Stay was number two when o'ho State beat them.
And I do think there is some validity to that argument,
Like obviously a team after you beat them isn't gonna
be as good, They're not gonna be ranked as high.

(30:29):
So it takes away from you know, really what that
team was at the point in time in which you
played them, Like there's value to that, like that that
should actually matter. Right, Maybe in the beginning of the
season it's a little bit different, but Penn States was
a good football team at that point. We're still a
really good football team. But I think this is where
preseason rankings have an impact because you you agree that

(30:49):
a preseason ranking is just a number, like, we have
no idea how good these teams are going to be,
We have no clue. Well, I mean, how how much
does really change for Clemson? Right? I know, Home or Alabama?
But there are there are examples to where you look
at it and you go, man, this team was ranked
this like wasn't you see l A a a top twenty
five team? The team stinks like there But but there's

(31:13):
been cases and in situations where teams have been ranked
really high, you know, going into a season, and it's
like once you give somebody a head start like that,
that's where I think it benefits. So maybe Alabama, if
you were to just now that the season is over,
if you could re rank the preseas, maybe this is
something we could do before the end of the show,
we could take the top ten preseason and if you

(31:35):
could then now and because you cover college football for
Fox before the end of the show, give us your
after the season top ten and let's see how different
it is from the preseason, because I think that would
be interesting and and just to see how close and
how how close they did get it right. And there's
a lot of factors that I get what you're saying.
The only thing is is won The College Football Playoff

(31:57):
Committee ranking doesn't come out so later in the season,
so really even though those a people rankings come out
and the AP wants to make them feel like their
rankings matter, which they kind of don't. Um you know,
Penn State was number two at one point, right they're
number There were number seven when the rankings came out,
and now they're number nine currently, So it's not like
the committee was that far off as far as like

(32:19):
where they were at their highest point and after the
loss to Ohio State, like where they are now. You
know what I'm saying, Like my whole point is there
there's still a really good football team, and I think
there's something to that, Like we look at strength of
schedule when we're trying to talk about throughout the course
of the year when it really doesn't matter until it's
all said and done. Because, for example, Alabama's resume looked
better last week than this week. You wanna know why,

(32:40):
because Fresno State was the top team and then they
lost the Boys Stated with the Mountain West championship, So
all of a sudden, that makes the resume look a
lot worse because they they only have two wins over
top twenty five teams. Here's a perfect example. Week one,
Michigan place Florida. Michigan was, Florida was seventeen. Yeah, but
but Jonas, neither of those teams are ranked now, Like

(33:01):
it's kind of relevant. But that's that's what I'm saying.
That's why why were those teams ranked that high before
the season? Like if that that's my whole point. Like
these preseason rankings I think do impact that. Listen, Alabama
beating the Florida Do you think that that factored in
at all? Do you think Alabama got credit for being
in Florida State? I think give well one, I think

(33:21):
they did because of the scheduling them. Like I honestly
feel like because you've got some athletic directors on that committee.
I think they look at it and they say kudos
to them. They schedule a tough opponent, like that's that
makes it a tougher non conference. Now it doesn't look
as good as far as strength of schedule and beating
teams with winning records and all that stuff. They look
at like like the deeper analytics to it. But at
the end of the day, I think they do give

(33:42):
them credit for scheduling them. How about this Texas was
you know what I mean, Like like that's where these
preseason rankings come in, because I guarantee somebody who beats
to like if Maryland would be factored into all this
Maryland go, we beat the twenty third ranked team of
the country, and then you look afterwards, you go, hold
on a second, like, now that we know what they
are are, what are we talking about here? Like that's

(34:02):
so yeah, it's listen, this is there's and but that's
why there's no right answer. It's like arguing politics or religion,
like everybody's just gonna believe that they believe and you
just keep butting heads back and forth. But it's fun
to talk about. I'm with you on that. I think
it's interesting. I just think, like like looking at the
way coaches talk about and how they look at it,
like that's one of the differences, like they say, they say, look,

(34:23):
when we played that scene, we beat a really good team.
Like I always remember whenever we played Michigan State, for
whatever reason, if we were able, if we were able
to beat them, because we always played them early in
the season, they're typically their season end up kind of
tailing off. Like that was one of the games that
kind of determined which direction their season was gonna go,
and if and if they had beat us, they would
typically have a better year. And that was just for

(34:44):
whatever reason how that game went. Now like this year
might be a little bit different. Example, even though Michigan
State didn't finish the way they wanted to and there
Dame Noda beat them pretty good in their house. But
but there's things like that that happened, Like that's kind
of realistic. And I think that's one of the toughest
things is evaluating the schedules in the entire year, is
you know, how different a team looks when a team
plays them, you know, compared to what they look like

(35:05):
at the end of the year. Where they're for example
of Florida, all the quarterback changes, they don't have a
head coach. It's an absolute dumpster fire as far as
what's happening, you know, from the top of the university
down and and then you look at other teams, like
you know, Florida State for example, they lose the storty quarterback,
like of course their season was gonna be a complete disaster.
When after week one you've got a guy who probably

(35:26):
didn't take many reps in camp and James Blackman, and
now they have to go forward with him, it kind
of throws a damp from the entire thing. All right,
So he is Brady Quinn I am Jonas knocks is
his Fox Sports Radio. By the way, Tennessee was in
the top twenty five at the start of the year. Wow,
which and it goes to show you how, you know,
unfortunately for for Butch Jones and that team. Um, I mean,

(35:48):
that's just underachieving the bottom line, just underachieving. That's why
he's not there anymore. Alright, So coming up next year
on Fox Sports Radio, now we I promise you this tease,
but but Brady is all fired up about college football.
We have to pay this team off, okay, because there's
something about an NFL team that nobody has noticed except
for me. I'm convinced of it. I'll tell you what
that is, and it's not a good thing. Next year
on fs are Brady Quinn Jonas knocks here Fox Sports Radio.

(36:12):
Coming up in just a couple of minutes, I'm going
to tell you something about an NFL team you've never
heard anywhere else before. And I think I'm right. And
even if you disagree with men, I'm still gonna think
I'm right. That's it, all right, So we'll get to
that here coming up in a couple of minutes. We
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(36:33):
in on the Sunday Night game of the week. Right now,
the Seahawks with a three nothing lead over the Philadelphia
Eagles of a little more than halfway through the opening
quarter there as a Philly just punted to Seattle. Seattle
has got the ball um in the first quarter there
with a field goal lead there in Seattle, Brady, I'm
gonna say something here. Okay, you do you man, you

(36:56):
talk say so. You remember the two thousand sixteen Chicago Cubs. Okay,
of course, like after a while, this whole fly of
the w this whole w flag crap, people crying and
writing in chalk on the outside of Wrigley Field and
all this stuff. After a while, you just kind of

(37:18):
get sick of it, you know, like like if you're
not a fan of the Cubs, you look at it
and you go, okay, enough, Like I I've had Cubs fatigue.
The World Series banner raising took three hours. We don't
this is ridiculous. And then the Golden State Warriors the
second time they played the Cleveland Cavaliers. You're Cleveland Cavaliers
in the NBA Finals. Majority of people would you say,
we're pulling for Cleveland because they were sick of Golden State.

(37:40):
Little too cocky. Yeah, And it's not like a lot
of the Golden State wars fans have been die hard
fans forever. Half those people just did it because it's
cool now. And then you saw when Cam Newton and
the Panthers lost that Super Bowl to Denver. You saw
a lot of people pile on Cam Newton for his
behavior afterwards and the interview of following the game, and

(38:01):
I think part of that was because he's always the
first to celebrate and then when they lose, he looks
like a sore loser. But that team Carolina wasn't exactly
the most likable team in the world. Good football team,
but not the most likable. Okay, there's a team in
the NFL that is teetering on the edge of becoming
one of those teams, and that team is the Philadelphia Eagles.

(38:21):
They are getting close. Man, It's getting real close to
getting to that obnoxious level there in Philadelphia. I know
they're a good team. The choreograph dances. I'm sick of
hearing about what a great guy Carson Wentz is. I'm
tired of hearing about the hunting trips they go on
together where they shoot elk and make beef jerky on
their own as a team. I'm sick of it. I'm
tired of hearing about it, and I think people around

(38:43):
the NFL are going to start to get sick of
it as well too. How about that. That's a pretty
strong statement and all that can kind of change tonight, right, Like,
I think, if they lose in Seattle, it doesn't take
away from the fact that they're a really good team,
but it takes away from the fact that when it
comes down to the playoffs, you've gotta be able to
win games like this in environments like that. And you know, one,
it would take away from their chance of being able

(39:05):
to have that number one overall seed, which would give
them a whole field advantage throughout the playoffs. UM, so
they wouldn't have to do that. But again, a loss tonight, uh,
would would change a lot of things. And the Seahawks
are up three nothing right now. A lot of football
have to be played, but all that could change, I think,
uh in the next you know, hour and hour and
a half or so. Yeah, it's um And that's why

(39:25):
I look at this situation with Philadelphia and and I listen, man,
they're on this wind streak. They look fantastic. Uh, the
job they've done putting together that roster. They resigned al
Sean Jeffrey to a four year contract extension earlier, so
it seems like they're it's almost like Minnesota where they're
keeping their own they're not letting them test free agency.
They're keeping these guys in the house, and so they
look like they're gonna be good for a long time.

(39:46):
But you're looking at this wind streak and they've beat
one team with a winning record during this win streak.
So so that's why if you're asking me who I
trust more as of right now in the NFC, I'm
going Minnesota. Man, Minnesota, They're big one. In Atlanta, they
are really good. They're really good. Their defense has been
good for years. Case Kingdom continually exceeds our expectations. I

(40:10):
saw a stat and it was something like he completed
eighteen of eight teen balls in between the numbers, which
is the first time since they've been tracking that stat
since two thousand six that a quarterback has not thrown
an interception when they've thrown that many times in between
the numbers like that, I mean, it was. It's been phenomenal.
See what he's been able to accomplish as far as
you know, just stepping in for Bradford, taking over, making

(40:30):
his team and now kind of taking this offense to
another another dimension. All right, So he is Brady Quinn.
I'm Jonas Knocks. This is Fox Sports Radio. You can
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who may be getting fired while this show is going
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tell you the very latest. Next here on Fox Sports Radio,

(40:53):
Brady Quinn Jonas Knocks coming back for another hour. Oh yeah,
we're gonna sink our teeth into the juiciest topic in
the NFL universe. That was the big buzz and it's
now gotten even bigger and bigger as the week went on,
and especially following Sunday's game. We're getting into that here
in just a minute. He's Brady Quinn. I am Jonas
Knoxas is Fox Sports Radio. You can find us on

(41:16):
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will keep you up to date on the Sunday Night
Game of the Week, where the Seattle Seahawks have a

(41:37):
three nothing lead over the Philadelphia Eagles about two minutes
and change to go in the opening quarter. So we'll
keep you posted, uh posted on that, Brady, the Eli
Manning saga that took place earlier this week, Giants lose
to the Raiders in Oakland. They were they were pretty
competitive there. Now it I probably helped it that Derek
Carr had uh pretty much nobody need to throw too

(42:00):
because they were either out with a concussion or suspended
because they got a brawl of the key to leave.
But the Giant Cooper microcrabt and so the Giants kept
it close, but ultimately the Raiders win seventeen. Geno Smith
the the starting quarterback for the Giants there. So where
do you stand on the decision? Because we haven't heard

(42:22):
your opinion. You're in a unique spot to where you
played quarterback in the NFL for a long time, you
played high level quarterback and notre dame for a long time.
You've been in these situations. Starter back up, you name it.
Where do you stand on how the situation was handled
with Eli Manning in New York? It was handled incredibly poorly,
but but maybe not for the reasons that you think,
um only because the messaging that was put out there,

(42:45):
and I think it started with Ben McAdoo and if
you will call earlier in the week, he said everyone's
on the same page meeting Jerry Reese Sean Mara. I mean,
I'm not sure if I read something different than you read,
but his words were everyone's on the same page. So
now for there to be this this backtracking that the
mayor family wasn't happy about how everything was was done

(43:06):
and portrayed and communicated the ELI, uh that I have
a hard time believing. I think maybe they were all
on the same page and they saw the public backlash
and and the you know, outcry from the media of
how ridiculous of a decision this was, and then all
they found themselves in in reactive mode trying to cover
up for their mistake. Um. But in regards to ELI,

(43:29):
you know, they're not having a great season, but the
bottom line is he gives them the best chance to win.
And whether it's Ben McAdoo, who I would think I
would want to try to win every game possible because
he's in the hot seat. It hasn't been a good season,
but they and then and they need to play competitive
because when all of a sudden, you've got a team
that was basically comprised of free agent signings. If you're

(43:52):
not playing for something in the postseason, it can easily
fall apart. You know, there's no culture that you're building
through the draft. They've drafted some of the yers that
are there, but for the most part, a lot of
the impact players are guys that they have they've signed
in free agency, in particular on defense. So because of that,
um One, I think you're sending the wrong message to
your locker room because now you're a less competitive team.
That's not a knock on Gino Smith, but I think

(44:13):
it's fair to say Eli Manning's a better quarterback than Gino.
And whether Gino would admit that or not, um from
my time just being with the Jets, like, I think
that's true. For all the film I've ever seen and
watched of Eli Manning playing and and being around Gino,
I would just see Eli Manning is a better quarterback. Um. So,
I think it makes that seem less competitive, which is
something that doesn't give the best chance to win. Ben

(44:35):
Macado shouldn't want that. The Giant shouldn't want that. I
could show you the players don't want that. So that's
what doesn't make sense about this at all. If you're
a coach is on the hot seat, why would you
put in a quarterback, especially one that I think we've
seen play enough where you know, maybe Gino can fill
in and we need some games, but he's probably more
a backup. You just drafted Davis Webb. If you want
to see what you had in Davis Webb, maybe that

(44:55):
would make a little bit more sense. But either way,
it doesn't make sense because they're trying to win football
game season the hot seat and they're not playing their
best quarterback. Like, none of that makes any sense to me.
He gave Eli Manning the chance to start. Eli turned
it down. That is the stupidest thing I have ever
heard in that's the chance to start. He turned it down. Okay,
So so let me ask you this. If if Scott

(45:18):
Shapiro came to you and said, hey, Jonas, we want
you to host the show, but we start up or
you're not gonna get to finish it, would would you
take that opportunity if it was the Jonas, not no, no,
not Jonas knock Show, just the Jonas and then someone
else kind of fills in the rest of it. Okay,
here's here's the difference though, because if if he were no, no, no,
if I get why Eli Manning did it, I respect it,

(45:39):
and we get we get that, and and and I
totallyon I totally respect Okay, I totally respect Eli Manning's decision.
I I d p respect it. But this whole let's
pile on Ben McAdoo, like, how could you put Geno
Smith out there? He gave Eli Manning the opportunity to
continue the streak, he turned it down, So you don't
feel that for the guy it's the But this is

(46:00):
and about feeling bad for Eli Manning because of the streak.
This is about being benched for him not being the problem.
They have their number one and two wide receivers, maybe
number three and I'm certainly spends back now, so he's
probably more their three, maybe two, depending on the order.
But either way, they've got two of their best players out.
Their offensive line has been garbage because Jerry Rees hasn't
decided to want to try to address that particular position.

(46:22):
They have got no running game. And and you're sitting
there trying to say that like people are set up
bout the streak like This isn't about the streak. It's
bigger than that. This is about a guy that's one
you two super Bowls. He was the m v P
in those two super Bowls, beat by the way Tom Brady,
who other teams apparently have a really hard time doing
when it comes down to winning Super Bowls. Like he
deserves the respect of an organization that he's given everything

(46:45):
to and done everything right. He's he's handled himself with
class to have the opportunity to finish out the season,
regardless of the streak, just to finish out the season.
It's not his lackluster play. He hasn't had a good year,
but I would say to think that he's been able
to play it at a high level. It's been more
impacted by what's around him than anything else. I mean,

(47:05):
the defense isn't playing as well as it was a
year ago, and Ben McAdoo suspending drc uh as well
as General's Jenkins. I mean, how's that going to help
the outcome of of the game and how they're gonna
play on either side? Like, this isn't This isn't about
the streak. It's about the fact that this guy has
been a monumental figure in this organization, and they're not

(47:26):
allowing the opportunity to finish out the season. If this
is gonna be this last year with the Giants, I mean,
come on, man like, like we're monumental figures here on
Fox Sports, rading on this time slot. But I got
news for you. If they decide they want to go
in a different direction with the show, guess what. We
don't get a goodbye. They don't tell us, hey, you
can we're moving in a different direction. But we're gonna
give you, guys two more weeks. They call us into
the office and say, hey, kick Rocks, grab a box

(47:46):
and no, no, that that's what I'm saying, Brady. It's
like this whole everybody like piling on Ben McAdoo, like,
how why is it? Why is it stupid? An opportunity?
So what they paid him, he's made, how many he's made?
How many millions of dollars? How many millions of dollars

(48:08):
is that guy made? And they've got to kiss his
ass on the way out the door. Sorry, pal, we
gave you an opportunity, you turned us down. So you
must be you're brilliant, because you must think Smith has
answered that no, here's what I think. But I think
this is a layered issue because I think, Okay, I
think this, Okay, Well, come on, man, it's not like
I had much to begin with. Um. I think I

(48:30):
think this is a layered issue because I think Ben
McAdoo the idea was Eli Manning plays the first half
and let me see what these other guys are all
about in the second half, which is dumb. Whatever you
think it's dumb, that's fine. But that was Ben mcadoo's plan,
quote unquote, the the idea that, well, if you're just
gonna play Geno Smith, why wouldn't you play Davis Webb.

(48:51):
Davis Webb clearly isn't ready to play, which is also
on Ben McAdoo. That's his problem. So I think this
is a layered issue all the way around. Jonas, how
do you even know he's clearly not ready to play
because he's not playing. Did you think Jared Goff is
ready to play when they thrust him in the starting
position last year for the Rams? Okay, but you said
earlier that if it was putting Davis Webban to see
what he was what he was all about, you wouldn't

(49:12):
have as much of an issue with it. No, but
it would make more sense. I said it would make
more sense. I'm not saying that's the direction they should
go at all. And that's what I'm saying is because
Ben mcadoo's job security isn't beyond maybe this week, but
maybe maybe maybe the next couple of hours, he could
be gone, who knows. And so that's what doesn't make
sense is why do you care if you're Ben McAdoo

(49:35):
about checking out what else is on the roster behind
Eli Manning when you might not be coaching this team
next year? Well? He who? Who are you doing? A solid? No?
And he clearly does not have had has not taken
the right temperature of the room. He clearly is over
his skis in this situation. I totally agree. But but
this is what you're missing is I think it's out
of his hands, like you don't. Here's here's the thing

(49:57):
that you don't understand is when, again, a monumental figure
like Eli Manning, as far as what he's been able
to bring the Giants, no matter what you think, and
the millions he's paid all that other garbage, because believe me,
they've made tenfold on the millions that he's made as
far as what they get when they win a Super
Bowl and everything else beyond that. This decision came down

(50:18):
from ownership. That's the bottom line. And it's the only
way this makes sense, Jonas, because if it didn't come
down from ownership, right, because you don't bench a guy
who's healthy who will throw in the streak, but as
who's one you two super bowls, you don't bench that
guy like because he's not the issue. He's not the problem.
So it had to have come down from ownership to

(50:39):
telling Ben McAdoo what to do. And unfortunately, you know,
whether he wants to do that or not, you know,
maybe his his hand has been dealt. I mean, it's
just none of it makes sense to think that Ben
mcas do Ben mcaviewer is gonna be the one to
make that decision. And I also think that this if
this is an ownership move, which I tend to agree
with you on, and and this is ownership saying hey, listen,
we we've got to start thinking about the few year.

(51:00):
Then they're not saying it out loud because they can't
be vocal about it. But this is pretty much a
tank job. Towards the end of the year to try
and get a better draft pick. Correct, would you? Would
you agree on that? Yeah? Potentially, I mean but and
they can't come out and say that. And if you
play Eli, He's you've got a better chance to win
games exactly, So, so that would make more sense in
my mind as far as why this is happening and
why they're wanting to do it. Unfortunately, the streak got

(51:22):
in the way, and I think that's what makes this
even harder, um for for the Giants organization, for probably Eli.
But dude, come on, like, I don't care who you are, Like,
don't sit there and tell me that if someone offer
you the opportunity to start for a half and then
be benched to have someone else going to check them
out like one, that streak is then tainted. You've got

(51:44):
an asterisk next to it. And then and to like,
what kind of guy are you? I do not want
to finish what you start, like get out of here. Yeah, yeah, no,
I I agree why. I understand why Eli Manny didn't
take it. I give him full credit for that. And
you can't hedge. You can't have hege. You don't do
one side of the you know, I'm not hedging I
understand why Eli Manning turned down the opportunity. I also

(52:08):
understand that the opportunity was there, So I'm not gonna
feel that bad for the guy. I just know that
that's like sitting there and saying like, oh um, yeah,
we're firing you, but here's a small little severance package.
But you can't go work anywhere else, but we're gonna
give you a little bit of money. So best of
luck to you, even though you can't work for anyone
else and continue your career because you know we're giving

(52:28):
you some severance and you can't take that severance unless
you know, uh, you can only take a severance if
you don't work for someone else. Man. But like you know,
that's that. That's bs. You know, you're either the wheel
or the spoke, and uh, Eli Mannings is spoke. Sorry
you have to find out the hard way. Pal take
a walk. I don't feel bad for him. That was fun.

(52:50):
I just it's so logical, like you've never gone to
these lengths to try to just have a sound bite.
That's what. It's not a sound bite. I really know
it's not a sound bite, man, I really, I honestly,
I see both sides of it. It's just I understand
Eli Manning. I understand Eli Manning, and I respect him
deciding that he didn't want to continue the streak in

(53:10):
that manner. That's fine. I give you credit for that.
But at the same time, sorry, man you had the
chance you could have kept playing. He turned it down.
It would have been tainted. Jonas, It's not fine because
because then, no, it's not. That's like saying a home
runs through the Steward Era don't have an asterisk next
to them. They do. Everyone goes they do, Everyone goes
back and looks at go go to other other universities

(53:32):
that had vacated wins, you know what they do and
putting their media guides. They still claim them to some degree,
but there's asterisk next to them. And that's the problem
is then it becomes tainted. It's not pure, it's not
what we all want sports to be. And and not
having some sort of political issue with them, this all
of a sudden politicizes the streak completely. And that and hey,

(53:53):
and like I said, I get why Eli Manning and
I respect him for it, but still the opportunity was
on the table and he test It's the dumbest point
of view this entire thing. Like, there's a homeless guy
outside the studio that just banged on the glass and said, hey,
you won that argument. He was pointing to me. He
wasn't even pointing to you. And he's also holding a

(54:15):
brown bag, which I assume, of course, what do you
mean it's mine? I couldn't bring it into the studio.
There's cameras. He just said that he thinks you're God too.
By the way, all right, so he's Brady Quinn. I'm
Jonas Knox. This is Fox Sports Radio Company Alive here
from the Geico Fox Sports Radio Studios. Up next, though,
you're going to hear a an NFL quarterback take out

(54:36):
a former head coach of his unlike anywhere else before.
This is fantastic audio. Don't go anywhere. We'll have a
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Um So, our friend Bruce Feldman or your friend acquaintance
of mine, Bruce Feldman. He's gonna be with us in
less than ten minutes from now, Yes, yes, all right,

(55:00):
in a little Feldman in love Feldman, He's he's everywhere.
Let me just explain this too. So we're in Dallas
for the Big twelve championship game. We got in there Thursday.
I can't tell you one how in the no he
is on all the stuff that's happening with the head
coaching searchers in college football. I mean literally, we'll be
we were sitting there at lunch and like to I'll

(55:22):
just put it this way, to head head college football
coaches guy called him in the hour span. We're sitting
at lunch and he's talking to them directly about the situations,
what's going on, like he knows a lot of information. Man,
I'll just put it that way. Yeah, he he's everywhere. Man,
I see him on ESPN, He's Oliver Fox, Fox Sports Radio,
you name it. Bruce Feldman, college football guru is gonna

(55:44):
be with us here less than ten minutes from now
here on Fox Sports Radio. Just checking in on the
Sunday night game of the week. I don't know how
Carson Wentz is still breeding air after that hitt he took.
But the Philadelphia Eagles, trailing the Seattle Seahawks, tend to nothing.
Although Philly is in the red zone own looking to
score and and cut into that lead. Uh there in Seattle.

(56:04):
It is in the second quarter, under ten minutes to
go in the second quarter there between Philly and Seattle.
So we'll keep you posted. Um all right, So Brady
Quinn have a what's have you had a contentious relationship
with a head coach that lingered on past your time
playing together? Um? Not that lingered on. I mean, you
know I felt like Eric Mangini, you know, it didn't

(56:25):
didn't like me. Um. You know, he was kind of
noticeable just from how he kind of treated things. And
I'm sure at some points he's been public about stuff.
Um bottom. I mean, look at the fact that matter
is not a good head coach. You know that was
you know, it's kind of been proven and I don't
think and I think honestly, part of that had to
do with the fact that, look, he's one of the
best defensive minds. Um. I'd ever been around Tabby a

(56:46):
lot about that side of the football. Um. But and
then in situational football. But you know, he didn't understand
the quarterback position. He he didn't know how to handle
that position, how to coach that position, how to talk
to that position, and the importance of it, and I
think you know that, to me is one of the
issues that I think he had as a head coach.
But he would have probably been the only one um
that I can think of off the top of my head. UM.

(57:08):
So the reason I asked this is because Rex Ryan,
who's now an analyst with the ESPN, was talking about
Geno Smith clearly previewing the Giants Raiders game with Gino
Smith getting the start, and Rex Ryan had some comments
about Geno Smith, basically saying about Geno Smith, I love
Geno Smith, great guy. I just don't want him playing

(57:28):
quarterback for me. Geno Smith, following the loss to the
Raiders on Sunday, had these words in response to the
comments from Rex Ryan. I did see one of my
ex coaches say he didn't want me to be his quarterback,
and that really upset me. You know, gotta we saved
his job. You know, we fought our assall for both years,

(57:49):
and for him to come out and say that just
shows you how much of coward he is. What are
you talking about? Who? All right, Well, then that's a
good little diversionary tactic from take us away from the
Eli Manning debacle. There with the Giants. Where do you
Where do you stand on the Geno Smith versus Rex
Ryan a few that has been sparked here in the

(58:11):
later weeks of the two thousand seventeen season. No, I mean,
this isn't that big of a surprise. You know, I
stand with the player. And like I said, I was
with the Jets for half that year, and I was
with Geno Smith, who was doing all he coulda as
a rookie to prepare and try to do the best
he could in a situation where you know that it
wasn't like I had the best personnel around them. They
had a great offensive line. Um, but there's a lot

(58:34):
of things that you've got to adjust to as a
rookie and it's hard, it's tough sledding. And for a
coach to kind of come out and say that about
him when he was a part of the staff and
the organization that drafted him, Uh, it's just I think
it's worth telling about Rex Ryan than it is about
genius Geno Smith. And and you know, unfortunately for Gino,
whether it's been through injuries or some of the hands

(58:55):
he's been dealt, which a lot of times in the NFL,
it's not just quarterbacks, but all positions. I mean such
wat and circumstance are big reason why things either do
or don't work out. You know, a lot of times
you get put into scenarios where you've just got a
bad hand, and when you try to play that hand,
there's there's a good probability you're not gonna be able
to win. Um, And you know, look at the at
the end of the day, Um, things haven't worked out

(59:16):
for Rex Ryan. He does a great job on TV.
I think he's a good defensive minded coach. Um. You know,
I I I was only with him for half a season,
so I wouldn't really, you know, know a ton about
him as far as you know, like what other players
have played for him for a long time. But I
just you know, i'd never during my time there, didn't
see him say anything like that or he was much
more of a player's coach, you know, being around the guys.

(59:38):
So it's kind of surprising to hear him, you know,
do that now. And and look, maybe you know, he's
new the TV, so maybe he feels like, for whatever reason,
he he needs to take a strong stance like that.
Like I just kind of feel like it's it's a
crappy position only because you know, he's got this platform
now and he's taking a shot at a guy who's
one still playing, still trying to make a living playing

(01:00:00):
the game of football. Uh And but at the same time,
it's not like he can really you know, say or
do anything um one way or another, you know, I mean,
he's he's he's doing the best he can with the situation.
Has been dealt with the Giants, which is not easy, right,
or the Jets during his time when he was there.
So it's just it's just it's kind of tough to
sit there and listen to from a head coach, only

(01:00:21):
because he doesn't need to do that. Like, I'm not
sure how that you know, one of what point that
proves into how that helps him in his TV career
to discredit other players that you know he had. Uh well.
Rex Ryan heard the comments from Geno Smith following the
game Heroes. His response, but really beautiful feat I mean,
which which caught me off guard. I don't know about you,

(01:00:43):
but when I heard those earlier totally caught me off guard.
Is that a direct quote? I don't I listen, I mean,
I was not there, Okay, I was I was, you know,
in the other room. But but again I mean that's uh.
But but in all serious is this is this is
what I want to ask you because it seems to
me like the head coach quarterback relationship is the most
delicate one on the roster. Like it's it's like, um,

(01:01:03):
if you're running a sales team, the guy who's your
best salesman, he's the one you're going to give most
of your attention to your going to. You're going to
be more sensitive to your going to, you know, give
give more, give more attention, like you're his focus. And
that relationship is the most delicate because he does the
most for you. If the quarterback is the most important
position on the field, How often is it that a

(01:01:25):
head coach has that bad of a relationship with the
quarterback like that seems very rare to me. It's pretty seldom,
although again I think it comes from when you've got
a defensive minded head coach. Some just they don't value
that position as much. You know, they look at it
and you know, maybe all they know is is defense,

(01:01:45):
and they look at and think that they're you know,
it's more about the team, and it is don't get
me wrong. Like football's ultimate team sport, but that position
is incredibly important, and that guy's a leader on your team,
whether you like it or not. And in a lot
of times he's gonna end up, um, you know, deciding
the outcome at the end of games in a tight
game based on how he plays and how guys follow him,
as far as his leadership skills. So you better understand

(01:02:08):
as far as in the locker room, how to prop
him up, how to help him, how to make him
what you need him to be, and more than anything else,
how to be in the extension of you out in
the field. I mean that that's what it is. I mean,
you're coaching of a player to be who's in a
leadership position, who's got to communicate, who's got to be
an extension of what you want out on the field.
And I think a lot of times you see defensive
minded head coaches don't understand how important that is, or

(01:02:31):
how important that the quarterback position is, and they failed
to be able to understand that, and they fail to
be able to manage that position in particular and in
the right way. And whether that's via keeping a guy
in through adversity and letting him fight through it and
understand that's gonna help you later on. Or it could
be just play calling. I mean opening things up, throwing
the football, not being just only you know, run first

(01:02:53):
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(01:03:42):
synchronized brocas there, that's hot. Yeah, Top cash Man. That's
going on probably like movie the program Vladimir and company
bashing each other's heads. Are you going to spit. Yeah,
what's like party defense? Yeah, he's see Freed. I'm Roy,

(01:04:08):
where's the Tiger? That's what I want to know. Do
your job, Dave? What are the scores? First and ten?
At the eleven Davis the single setback. Graham slots on
the left side. Russell takes a shotgun snap four man rush.
Russell looks back and hits. Talk about Jimmy Brawn. Do say?
Hawks in the front near corner of the antzone as

(01:04:30):
perfect the timing path from Rutsell Wilson. As you will see,
Jimmy Graham spins around and makes it catch in eleven yards.
Store where's the Tiger? At Seahawks Radio Network. At the
lea the Eels right now by a score of ten
to three. Russell Wilson trying to rush for a first down.
He's about five yards short. It's about five fifteen to
play in the first half. From Seattle. Again, if Philadelphia

(01:04:52):
wins this game, they will win the NFC East Division
crown as well. Meanwhile, some finals from earlier today, Rams
beat the Cardinals sixteen, and you've got the Vikings who
nearly blank the Falcons. No offensive TVs for the Falcons.
They lose at home fourteen to nine. Minnesota has now
won eight in a row. Lions get beat in Baltimore
to twenty. In that game Matthew Staffords Matthew Stafford injured

(01:05:15):
his hand. X rays were negative, so no breaks there,
and also Jimmy Smith has a torn achilles. It looks
to be done for the season. Patriots up in the
Bills three to three. Packers win an overtime over the
Buccaneers twenty. Dolphins throttle the Broncos nine, Kansas City Chiefs five,
and then to start the season they get beat and
they're now six and six on the ear, tied up

(01:05:36):
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(01:05:58):
with us here on Fox Sport Trading of Bruce. Thanks
so much for the time as always, you gotta guys,
how did you be on with you? Yeah, I don't
know if you were familiar with Brady Quinn I do
the show with him used to play quarterback. I don't
know if you guys have spent any significant amount of
the guard who played played at Notre Dame and then
went on to play for the Miami Heat. I remember, yes,
that would be my cousin. As we used to always say, yeah,

(01:06:19):
absolutely all right. So, Bruce, I want to get your
thoughts because Brady and I have kind of differing opinions
on this, the College Football Playoff, the final four? Are
you okay with it? What bothers you about it? How
do you think the committee did in determining these more? Well,
I'm okay with it. You know, I got no problem
with it. I thought that Ohio State would get in,

(01:06:41):
not Alabama. And the reason why I thought that is
just because of listening to the committee the last couple
of years talking about how they stress conference championships and
who you beat. So I was kind of thinking that
was in line with their thinking. And obviously Alabama didn't
win a conference championship. Ohio State did. Ohio State has
a terrible loss, but it they do, but one really

(01:07:03):
bad loss, and that's the Iowa game, obviously by thirty plus.
But when you look at at Alabama's resume is like,
who did they beat? I mean, their best win is
is uh L s U and then after that they
got an eight in four Mississippi State team that's just
hanging out just in the fringe at the top twenty five.
Whereas Ohio State, you know, beat beat Wisconsin as Brady

(01:07:25):
and I saw in person, they crushed Michigan State. Those
are good wins, and they beat Penn State. Those are
three better wins than I think even the L s
U win. But I wondered if Oklahoma, if Ohio State
last night had one thirty one to ten as opposed
to buy came down to the wire, would they have
gotten in. I mean, they weren't that impressive last night.

(01:07:45):
They won, but they were not that impressive in doing so.
And I wonder if the committee looked at that, go, yeah,
we put these guys up against Clemson again. Clemson's gonna
blow them off the field. No, I think you're I
think you're dead on there, Bruce. I mean I kind
of echoed that sentiment earlier. I also had talked earlier
about how dialed in you are in regards to everything
that's happening in the head coaching landscape in college football.

(01:08:08):
I want you to do do if you could. I know
you've talked about it a bunch, but reiterate if you
like where Tennessee is at this point, like what's happened
where they're at? Is there anything new you can tell
us as far as who potentially is going to be
their head coach? You know right now, in the last
eight days, it has been so chaotic. You know, obviously
they had the debacle where they last Sunday they had

(01:08:30):
offered and signed on Greg Siano and he had signed on,
and they were all set to do it, and it
was such a backlash from their fan base that they
hit the brakes and they said, you know what, this
isn't gonna blow over after twenty four hours of a
bad press conference and and angry fan base. We gotta
undo this, as you know by all means. So then
they do that, and then they go chase, you know,

(01:08:54):
Mike Gundy, and he turns them down, and David Cutcliffe
and he turns them down. And then they reach out
to Day to Jeff Brown from Purdue and he turns
him down. Then they go to Dave Dorn and he's like,
no thanks. Then on Thursday, the a D John Curry
goes out to l a It meets with Mike Leach
and Mike Leaches on board. He wants to do it,
and there's a contract ready to go, and then all

(01:09:18):
of it all while this is going on, there's a
ton of infighting going on, and it's big money boosters
who've gotten involved. And it's old former coach Phil Former,
who still picked off that they fired him ten years ago,
and Fumer wanted to be the a D. Except John
Curry got the job instead. So now Boehmer's piste off

(01:09:39):
and they summoned John Curry back to Knoxville because they said,
you know what it's done. We don't want him swooping
in and saving the day making a hire that the
fans might like in Mike Leach. And so they fired
They fired John Curry, and Phil Former gets what he
wants and he's now the the a D. And they've

(01:10:00):
reset their search and we'll see, you know, I mean
it was I think there was a report this weekend
that they had contacted less Miles. That would certainly be
an interesting move. Um. You know, personally, I think it
would be fun to have less Miles back in coaching again.
If I was a Tennessee fan, I'm not sure how
i'd feel about that at my school. UH, there's been
some speculation that Chad Morris could could be in play.

(01:10:25):
I believe they had contacted him. I just don't know
how high he would be on their wish list. Another
name i'd heard it possible on Phil Falmer's radar as
Brent Venables, who's a Clemson defensive coordinator. And then T
Martin is the one who's kind of just hanging out
there where he has the Tennessee ties obviously led you
T to a national title. Uh as a usc USC

(01:10:46):
offensive coordinator and does have SEC coaching experience because he
was on the Kentucky staff and did a nice job
developing players all the way. But is he ready to
be the head coach there? And is that what Phil
former wants to do? Is that what Peyton Manning come
from with that? You know, because he's an advisor there.
It's it's hard to say where they're going to go.
The one thing I would tell you is this is

(01:11:08):
a unique dynamic where you know, Chris Peterson is not
coming to go work in Knoxville. I mean, there's a
lot of good coaches that are out there. They're going,
you know, I don't want any part of this. And
now you're thinking, Okay, do I want to go work
for a retired coach who's now back and feels like
he's empowered and is he going to be hanging over
me with with every move I make? I mean, I'm
curious to see who they can get because you know,

(01:11:31):
Florida State is an open job. That's a much better job.
We'll see what other jobs come open. Arkansas is open,
that's right. I don't know if it's a better job,
but it's it's in the same ballpark at this point,
given all of the struggles Tennessee has, so it's quite
a soap opera. He is Bruce Feldman, college football insider
for Fox, joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, Bruce

(01:11:51):
Um Lane Kiffin. What has to happen for Lane Kiffin
to get back in the SEC? Okay, because I saw
gust vows On is signing the extension there with Auburn,
reported Lisa. Now that you know him going to Arkansas
and the dream matchup of Lane Kiffin versus Nick Saban
and the Iron Bowl next year is off the table.
But what what do we need to happen in order

(01:12:12):
to get Lane Kiffin at one of these SEC gigs.
He needs to have an A d go in there,
who has who trusts him. And I think that's a
big pig. If I don't know how many a das
you're gonna have, We're gonna put the keys to the
program and trust Lane. Not trust him on the field
so much, but trust him often, trust him on social media,

(01:12:32):
trust him how he represents her school. Because you know,
I say, this is somebody who likes Lane Kiffin, fine,
but I just don't think you look at him and
go he really hasn't changed much. He's still Lane. Let's
not kid ourselves. He's a He's a he's got a
very good sense of play calling and what he's doing
on the field, and his sense of humor still a

(01:12:53):
sense of humor, and you know, sometimes he's a lot
of times he's in on the joke, but some of
those jokes, you know, you're if you're in the big
chair at a big place, at a state institution or
a big school. You're probably not supposed to be telling
those jokes, are doing those kind of things, and so
I just, uh, I think it's gonna be a little
while before there's an a D who a D who

(01:13:15):
can sell that to as president and say, okay, we
can do this. I mean if you're at f a
U where nobody most I mean I Brady and Eyeboth
are familiar with because you know, he lived down there
and I used to, but it was really had no identity.
So Lane Kiffin gave them some identity. So it's like
kind of, okay, we can we can take some of this,
but mother place that's establishment, probably not. I can't wait

(01:13:37):
to go to the Vocable this year because guess who's
planning the Vocable AU in their own home stadium. So
it's gonna be it's gonna be a fun one. A
couple more coaching, uh, I guess topics. Gus miles on
signs an extension with Auburn, decides to stay, doesn't lead
for Arkansas. Thoughts on that, and also some potential head
coaching candidates for Arkansas and then f SC you heard
rumors of Willie Tagger, but now it seems like he's

(01:13:58):
staying at Oregon. What you tell us about those two
jobs in particular, Well, I wouldn't. I would. I mean,
we'll see what happens with Willie Tagger. I know he
really likes it out there any in the direction that
they've built up. But if F s U really comes
after him, I think it would be hard for him
to to turn that down. I mean, remember he grew
up an FSU fan, um, you know, and that's home

(01:14:20):
for him. If they don't, I don't know if they
would look at a Jeff brom Kevin, someone's out there
as a candidate for some of these jobs. I think
that as far as Arkansas, you know, as possible they could.
They could reach out to Dana Holgerson and see they
have some interest in him. Maybe they would have some
interest in Mike Norvell, who's is really from Arkansas and

(01:14:41):
has done a nice job at Memphis. That's another one
where Mike Leach's name is surfaced a couple of times.
I really think if Leech was gonna leave Wazoo, that
would probably be the only destination I could see it happening, um,
you know. And beyond that, maybe that's another word rent
aventables who had done a good job as Oklahoma defensive
corptering before he's at Clemson. That's another one, and maybe

(01:15:02):
he considers it, you know, geographically might make some sense
for him. Bruce Feldman, college football insider with Fox. Always
appreciate a few minutes your time, Bruce. Fantastic stuff as usual.
Thanks so much for popping on my pleasure. Thanks guys,
Thanks Bruce, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinny or Fox Sport Trader.
You're going to the Vocal Bowl. Oh dude, that's my
wife and I is annual bowl game we attend every year.

(01:15:24):
I looked at it earlier tonight once I found out
which two teams it's gonna be F A U, and
it was acrony, Are they doing part the line for
that game? No? Um? Are they doing? Are they doing
craft Beer Night? There? Do you hear when they hear?
They did craft Beer Night a couple of weeks ago?
Like the Florida International FAU game for like twenty bucks,

(01:15:47):
you get like unlimited craft beer and like these ten
ounce cups or something before that. Well, I don't I
don't know, but if that were me, because you consider
craft beer has got you know, a little bit more
alcoholic content than normally they have. All these local breweries
come by. I'd be throwing up on one of the
pylons before we started. So I don't know how it went.
I mean, it seemed like it went well. They won
the game. But man, good for Lane kid, and he's
probably having the time of his life right now. Oh yeah.

(01:16:09):
Here's the thing is, there's so much talent in South Florida,
Like he doesn't have. What about the players, and and
then there's the players, Like it's such a nice place
to live. It's I mean, I know, he aspires and
once more, the bottom line is like it's not a
bad place to be, Like, if you're a head coach

(01:16:30):
and you just want to sell off in the sunset,
that would be a great place to coach. And then
kind of like quasi retire when it's all said and done.
All right, So Brady Quinn Jonas knocks here Fox Sports Radio.
Coming up next, there was a return in the world
of football. Okay, in the world of football. We had
a major return and it went pretty well, so well
that it may have saved someone's job. We'll tell you

(01:16:50):
who that is next year on Fox Sports Radio. I
couldn't get that bathroom door open, Brady Quinn Jonas knocks
Fox Sports Radio. Come do you live here from the
Geico Sport Radio suber or number two? Number three? Um,
all right, so we'll leave that one alone as well too.
We do have great news, folks. There's a quick way
you could say money switched a guy who got a

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guy go dot com in a fifteen minutes, you could
say fifteen percent or more on car insurance. They have
just gone to halftime in Seattle where the Seattle Seahawks
have a ten to three lead over the Philadelphia Eagles.
So we will keep you updated on that game as
well too. We'll get a visit, I'm sure from a
live bet Jesus who was totally screwed out of a
bet last week by Brady Um. Well, I mean listen,

(01:17:34):
and I'm not here now. I don't have an interest
in it because I'm not live bet Jesus. But I'm
hearing rumblings that he was very bothered that you didn't
give him the one and a half point spread. Instead
you gave him the three and a half last week
and he got screwed by a half point. That's what
I heard but I mean, all I'm saying to you
is the pick was announced and then all of a suddenly,

(01:17:56):
impactful play occurred and live that's been Jesus's pick, which
was already stated on air man across the country Fox
Sports Radio National, was already stated all of a sudden
he wanted to change because of one pivotal play in
that game. I mean, I'm just saying it's been unfair
to all those out there who may have taken his

(01:18:18):
advice and laid the bet. You gotta ride with those
that you dance with. Self kissed off. So but you
know what, he's dusting himself off. He's gonna get right
back on that horse. Coming up next segment about ten minutes.
There are actually probably about fifteen minutes from now here
on Fox Sports Radio. All right, I gotta get your
thoughts on this. Josh Gordon makes his return for the
Cleveland Browns earlier on Sunday. Um, for a guy who's

(01:18:39):
been away from the game for quite some time, I
thought he looked pretty good at times. Made it, made
a pretty damn good catch on the sideline, four grabs,
eighty five yards. Um, it's a game, so obviously the
Browns lost by the way, I had a buddy. I
had a buddy, and I can confirm. How about this
about Browns fans at the StubHub Center there, I heard

(01:19:00):
that from a friend. I just confirmed it with the
great Steve to Seger in the other room, So I
have double sources on this confirmation. Around Browns fans at
the Stubbub Center, you know, they've got a low key,
solid fan base. One I would say, you can make
the case they're the best in the NFL. Reason being,
they show up to a team that's won one game
the past few seasons and that's at home. And now

(01:19:22):
you're talking about on the road now, And I gotta
be honest with you. Uh, anyone who was in Cleveland
at this time of year hasn't been too bad yet.
But I'm sure they didn't mind taking a road trip
to l A to watch this game. But Uh, it's
crazy to think that the Charges can't get more of
a fan base. It's just unbelievable. Uh well, well, let
me let me ask you about Josh Gordon. Um is there?

(01:19:43):
It is the potential because like if you're a coach
and you're on the hot seat, Um, you know, if
you're winning If the winds aren't there, it's all about hope.
Is their hope around the corner? Have you have you done?
Have you shown enough to where they go? Well, you know, listen,
the winds weren't here, but we could see next year
a little b to hope towards something on this roster.
Could Josh Gordon save Hugh Jackson's job? That is a

(01:20:07):
big statement. I don't think so. I think, you know,
if they win a game, I don't think that's gonna
be enough. Uh. They gotta probably win two of their
last four and maybe more than that. Uh. And if
you could do that, I think that'd be a big part.
But you know, I kind of want to I kind
of want to take this in a different angle, the
sense that you know, after all he went through and
for all those that thought it was just about weed,

(01:20:28):
and then he finally came out and said everything else
that he got into and he was battling through and
dealing with. UM. I just I wish more teams and
I wish the NFL would allow players who are dealing
with substance abuse issues to stick with their team. I
think it's been proven that they're better off being around
people who are are a support system and who can
help them and being you know, able to have the

(01:20:49):
access to those things, then they are if they're on
their own. Um, you know, you see a lot of
players like that. You kind of just get lost when
they don't have any guidance or any support system there,
especially at a vulnerable time. Yeah. And I've just as
somebody who's had people with substance abuse issues in my family. Uh,
when they're alone, that's the worst thing for him, right, Like,
that's that's the absolute worst thing for him. So good

(01:21:10):
for him. Hopefully he can he can stay clean. And
uh he's a hell of a player, man, all right.
Brady Quinn Jonas Knocks here Fox Sports Radio. Coming up next,
a sleeper team for the Super Bowl here on Fox
Sports Radio. So we've got ourselves a sleeper super Bowl pick. Okay,
a team that you may not have expected a couple
of weeks ago to be a Super Bowl contender, may

(01:21:32):
have just put themselves in consideration for that. We'll explain
who that is coming up here in just a couple
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David Gascon and the national updates. It is hend to
three the Seahawks with the lead over the Philadelphia Eagles.
The second half just underway up in Seattle, so we
will keep you updated on that game as well too.
At some point within this segment the next ten to
twelve minutes from now, we expect live bet Jesus to

(01:22:15):
to make an appearance. Uh. We don't know who he is. Um,
he's just a character who bets on the Sunday night games. Yeah.
And and you know, word of advice to live that Jesus.
Not that I'm in any position to give him any um,
even though I know he struggle the past few weeks.
Maybe he should wait until there's a stoppage and play
for a time out, something like that. Just piece of advice.

(01:22:38):
So what happens last week doesn't happen again this week. Yeah,
now I'm not because I'm not him. I don't want
to speak for him, but I would imagine that his
response to that was he really tried to last week.
You know, he really tried. I thought he was grooving
it just the right right way, and then then there
was a turnover. Oh man, I don't know why I'm
getting so worked up about it. It's not me. It

(01:22:59):
wasn't my anny that that got lost, you know, like,
I don't know why it's me that's being bothered by this.
But but yeah, live bad. Jesus will be making an
appearance coming up within I don't know, like the next
eight minutes from now. Who knows. Man, he just shows
up out of nowhere. You hear some thunder, You hear
Madonna like a prayer, because why wouldn't you on a
sports talk radio show, And then here he is and
he makes a pick. So that's all that gives me.

(01:23:22):
Every time once we want to hear Madonna, I know
it's on and I don't know why that's the Jesus.
It makes no sense. There's a guy sent us a
tweet earlier, very nice tweet that said, I'm that elbow
bending loser that listens every week and tweets you. But
gee damn, I wish more shows were as entertaining and

(01:23:44):
educational as this now entertaining yeah spot on educational could
argue it depends debatable best Yeah. Um, alright, so we
gotta get to this because you posed a question or
made a stay men earlier as we were talking about
what we're gonna do on the show about a potential

(01:24:05):
super Bowl contender, A right, like a team that if
you were looking at, okay long shot to win a
super Bowl, fill everybody in on who you think that
team might be, that you could make some major coin
on should they actually pull it out. Okay, can you
have you do something for me while I start to
kind of build this up. Please look up the odds
for this team at the current moment, just so we

(01:24:26):
can make sure our listeners know the value that we're
providing them. Okay, I thought you were gonna ask for
something else. Let me put my belt back on, hold on, Yeah, okay,
that would have been that. All right, that's that's after Yeah. Well, anyway, um,
were as you look down the rest of this team's schedule,
you know, as we carry on through the season, here

(01:24:47):
are their next four games at Cleveland, at Carolina, at
home versus the Minnesota Vikings, and at Detroit. Four games
that you can obviously say one of them is gonna
be an easier game. Now the other three not at all.
Those will be tough tests, but there may be the

(01:25:08):
return of a player who could change all of their fortune,
maybe one Aaron Rodgers. Yes, that's right, I'm talking about
the Green Bay Packers right now. If you're smart and
you've got a little bit of change, and you want
to try to make some money, look, take a long
shot bet on the Packers being able to win the
Super Bowl. Reason being if they do get Aaron Rodgers

(01:25:29):
back healthy, which there is no guarantee, There is some
risk to this, but if they do, that changes the
dynamics of this team completely and all of a sudden
they become a very very viable option in the NFC
playoff picture. I know people will sit there and say,
I still don't have an assault of a running game
that's gotten better since he's been out. They've had to

(01:25:50):
work on that and it's been an improvement. Their defense
has had to step up and improve some and it
has so all those things I think has four screen
made to be a better to game without Ian Rodgers.
When he comes back, they might just be better off
because of his absence for a short time as far
as making other players come up around him. So you notice,
if you will, what are the odds? Right? Okay? So

(01:26:12):
I have the odds here? All right? You ready for this?
All right? If you were right now to bet one
hundred dollars on the Green Bay Packers to win the
Super Bowl, it would pay out twelve thousand, five hundred dollars.
They are one hundred five to one to win the

(01:26:34):
Super Bowl right this second. Hey, I've spent a hundred
dollars on a lot of other terrible things. I'm not
saying you should definitely go out and do that. But
if if you're like me and you've just burnt a
hundred bucks, which to us I know you have, I
don't even know what they need to throw you in
that conversation. I mean, you've I've seen you spent all
sorts of cash on different things. But anyway, uh, to me,

(01:26:56):
this is kind of one of those all right, this
may pay off and it maybe one of those surprises.
Where do you recall the last time the Packers won
a Super Bowl? Yeah, and a bunch of guys on
I R one of our own brave. But do you
do you remember that two dozen tend had to win
out basically get in. They got it as a wild
card team wanted to run all of a sudden, what

(01:27:17):
a super Bowl. I'm just telling you, I'm getting that
feeling a little bit. I'm starting to get that feeling
about the potential that if Rogers can't come back, maybe
that team falls in this category. Well, and if you're
if you're Mike McCarthy and you're the Packers and you're
a Packers fan, you cannot ask for more from Brett Hunley,
like like he's clearly he's a total downgrade from Aaron Rodgers,

(01:27:39):
all right, and he's got a lot of limitations. But
all you're looking to do is just get by, Okay,
just get by and keep some hope alive for Aaron
Rodgers upon his return. The only issue they've got is
the NFC is so tough. If they're in the a
f C, they're sitting pretty right now. Because the a
f C outside of Pittsburgh, UM and New England, I
think everybody's sort of kind of, you know, mixed in
a whole, big, whole, big batch there, everybody's kind of

(01:28:02):
the same team, but in the NFC it's a little
bit tougher. But if you're Mike McCarthy and you're and
you're the Packers or you're a player there, I mean,
you've got to be thrilled because you're you're he's at
least keeping hope alive. He's making enough plays to get
the job done. Yeah, and I think he's progressed. He
has gotten better. You know that the more we've watched him.
It's hard because whoever's got to, you know, fill in

(01:28:22):
behind Aaron Rodgers, that's gonna be a tough task and
you're never gonna please everyone, especially early on, right, I mean,
even with with having to replace Brett Farve. Early on,
I'm sure people weren't as pleased with Aaron Rodgers. And
then as time we're on, they're like, wait, this guy
is really really good, Like maybe maybe we'll get to
the point where we forget about Brett Farve. I don't

(01:28:44):
know if you ever can um, but he definitely, he
definitely has been able to fill in for Brett Farve
in a big way. And I don't know that Brett
Hunley will ever even have that opportunity to do so,
but he's gotten better as he's continued to play this year.
Now it's uh, and I don't mean to give out
personal information on the air, but I understand that it's
a special someone in your life's birthday. It's my wife's birthday.

(01:29:08):
I can't believe you went to this point the show
to get to that such a big deal. Wow. Well,
because I had a gift idea. Yeah, okay, like if
you want to do who does? Okay? Uh? If if
you really want to sweep her off her feet, all right,
here's what you do. You wrap it up in a

(01:29:29):
nice big box, A nice big box. All right enough, Brad,
we're not talking about you. You've got all sorts of
issues yourself, all right, But you wrap it up in
a big box, and there's a big bow on it.
The whole works. And she opens it up and in
there is a betting ticket on the Packers to win
the Super Bowl a hundred bucks. And if you want,

(01:29:51):
we'll all go in with you on the gifts. That way,
it saves us some money. You put in bucks, I'll
put in a buck and then it wins twelve hundred.
How's that for a birthday gift? Welcome to your thirties.
Here's twelve thousand five dollars if they win. Wait, I
thought we were splitting this though. Yeah, you put in
put in one. Okay, so how much you're getting of
that twelve? Well, no, we give we give all the

(01:30:13):
winnings to her. Oh yeah, it's not a bad it's
not a bad idea. It's not good idea. Let's talk
about it during the next break. Okay, see where that goes?
Explored that option by you got anything special lined up
for I do? I do. We're actually gonna take a
little trip coming up once we get some time off. Um.
But yeah, unfortunately, because of because of just how busy
things are in the football season, we can't really do

(01:30:34):
it right now. So that's called you're taking her to
the PoCA Bowl. Is where you're going? No, no, no,
the Voca Bowl comes into play anyway. That's that's like
a Tuesday during the week. What a what a romantic
ray with me? Like it was a joke a couple
of years ago, and then we actually went last year.
She was like, I kind of like it, Like it's
kind of fun. I had a buddy one time who

(01:30:56):
went out on a date. He had been seeing this
woman for a little while and he went on in
a date, full blown degenerate gambler and story no no, no, no,
no no, uh true story. So they were trying to
decide on a place to go have dinner and uh
and get a couple of drinks. And so she wasn't
from around the area, so he told her that he

(01:31:18):
wasn't either, which was a total lie. And so he
just kind of drove around like he was lost and
then said, oh, I mean there's a there's this place
upright over here, Like, why don't we go check it out?
And so they get in there and he goes, I
mean it's kind of a sports bar. I don't know
if you're into this, but I'm kind of hungry. Are
you okay to eat here? And she goes, oh, yeah,
that's fine. He sits down. He goes, oh, look, it's
the Brewers Cardinals game. Who would have thought Brewers Cardinals

(01:31:39):
sitting up there on the TV and they've scored over
seven and a half runs? Can you believe that? Like
he just he was a toldal degenerate gambler. But that's
how he worked it into his date. So there are
ways around this. If you want to go to a
bowl game or you want to bet on the Packers,
there are ways that you can manipulate the situation her
birthday or not, and you can get away with it
if you're a good enough husband. I don't think I'm

(01:32:00):
gonna do that much lengths like I I'd rather just
be really transparent about it. Okay, that's fine, that's fair
to alright, Brady Quinn Jonas knocks here fox sport rait.
I don't know where the hell this guy is. He
was supposed to be here. I mean, I don't know
what what we gotta do to get him in here.
I mean, this is ridiculous. A Hail Mary's I mean,
I mean, is there any of the Madonna songs you
want to listen to? Well, let me let me let

(01:32:21):
me say this all right, Um, we're obviously radio formatics
are key on this show and so and this has
nothing to do with a major event that may have
just occurred in the game, and that's why we're stalling
at all to manipulate the line on this game. We
will hear from the Great Live bet Jesus coming up
here next on Fox Sports Radio. I promise you that's here.

(01:32:43):
Next on FSR, Jonas Knocks Brady Quinn Fox Sports Radio
coming to here live from the Getico Fox Sports Radio Studios.
We're gonna go out and check in with our buddy
Chris Plank. Uh. He is a member of the Fox
Sports Radio family, also with the Sooner Sports Network. Uh
Sooner Radio Network. Rather, he's gonna have some thoughts on Oklahoma,

(01:33:03):
some Baker Mayfield stuff. So Chris Plank I kinda up
to join us here in just a couple of minutes,
updating you on the Sunday night game of the week.
Here the Seattle Seahawks still holding onto a ten to
three lead. Carson Wentz a fumble at the one yard
line as he was trying to score, went through the
back of the end zone. Seattle gets the ball back
on the twenty. So so there's that. Um, yeah, that's

(01:33:26):
that's what we got right now. Brady, your thoughts on
this game? You want to want to break down this
game little x's and os with Brady Quinn. You love
to do it, let's hear Brady. Yes, So a couple
defensive holding calls on this particular drive and Obviously Russell
Wilson's ability to extend plays that that's what makes it
so hard for defenses to put a cover for that long.
So eventually they grabbed the hole. They think officials won't

(01:33:47):
see it because it's basically chaos on the field once
he breaks outside the pocket. Um. But but that's kind
of one of the the secrets I think to to.
When you play in Seattle and you go up against
the Seahawks and Russell Wilson starts to do his thing,
those secondaries are rest so bad and it's suddenly just
like the noise when they get offense to jump offsides.
It's the secondaries being able to, you know, continue to

(01:34:08):
keep covering those those wide receivers and other pass catchers
tight ends for extended periods of times. It gets tough
to do. In the second half of games, I'll go,
I don't know that all the lights went out in
the stud This is like the Undertaker's entrance. Amazing, Yeah,
oh it is. This is all right. So the lights

(01:34:28):
are out. Um, the street lights have even gone out.
Cars have pulled over, there are people staring up into
the sky. I have no idea, why, what the hell
is happening. What is that floating from the skies? This
just what I think it is? Oh my god. Apparently
Live bet Jesus has made a pick. After last week's
abuse that he took on behalf of Brady Quinn, I mean,

(01:34:49):
just getting hammered by Brady Quinn on the air, he
has made a pick. It is floating down. It is
going to land on the studio desk here. I am
watching it play by play. Are the clouds have parted?
We go a little, uh, a little just to set
the scene for you. While this is hovering down onto
the desk, I can see out there. There's one street

(01:35:12):
light on and there's a homeless man urinating right now,
so I can't I can't spot I have it here.
If you think I'm making this up, I am not.
Here is the scripture. Let me open this up here
This according to Live bet Jesus. With the score the
Seattle Seahawks up ten to three over the Philadelphia Eagles
early in the third quarter. Are about halfway through the

(01:35:32):
third quarter. Now, Li've bet Jesus likes the Seahawks minus
two and a half, So Li've bet Jesus likes the
pregame six point underdogs to win this game by more
than two and a half. That is according to Live
Bet Jesus here on the scripture, I was just handed.

(01:35:54):
So the lights have now come back on in the
studio and there we are Brady Seahawks minus two and
a half. That could be a bet that that that
pays out. Although I gotta tell you, man, this is
gonna be a close game. Like I'm gonna have a
hard time going to bed and not watching the finish
of this because because I think it's gonna be close.
You know what, Uh listen, don't don't egg this on anymore. Okay,

(01:36:16):
you like it when I Bet Jesus loses lb J.
So I hate it because it it gets to the
point where we should almost be telling people bet opposite
of l b J. Like, if he takes the Seahawks,
you know, given two and a half, maybe you should
think about taking the Eagles on the flip side of that,
Like like, I don't want to I don't want to

(01:36:37):
throw that out there, and I don't want to tell
people to take the opposite of what l b J picks.
I mean, I don't want to continue to keep putting
that out there and then listen. And I'm not saying
that I have any involvement in this, but I can
just tell you that if I've bet Jesus loses for
a fourth week in a row, I may have to
siphon gas to get home. I'm telling you that right now,
because I don't have triple A and and I don't

(01:36:57):
know how this is gonna work. No, that's true, that's true.
I've seen your wallet. You don't You don't keep many
cards in there at all. Yeah, there's a tumbleweed. There's
some dust and stuff in that. Sometimes there's something else.
It was something before that looks like a balloon animal.
All right, So here we go, Brady Quinn, Jonah Stocks
here Fox Sports Radio. He is Chris Plank. Is Chris Plank,

(01:37:19):
Fox Sports Radio host. You hear him when we go
off the air with the stinking genius Arnie Spaniard coming
up at eleven pm Eastern Time every Sunday night. He's
also a member of the Sooner Radio Network. Kind enough
to join us here, Plank, My man, what the hell
is happening? Oh, it was a beautiful day down in Arlington.
I saw I did get to see Brady. We didn't
get a chance to hang out, because uh see, I

(01:37:41):
get kind of worried when you have the suits and
there's the officials out there and you're standing at midfield
and you got the coaches and I never know, just
me walking out there and be like, hey, I don't
know if that will ever work out. But it was
great job, Brady. I rewatched the game, as you might
imagine twice now as a Sooner fan, So you and
Joe were awesome, and I love the job the Petros

(01:38:02):
and and obviously the Bruce did so it was a
fun day yesterday as you might imagine. Well, thank you.
I appreciate that we always try to do our best.
But I mean Chris water performance and and you've been
able to watch this guy all year long. And I
don't think this is a surprise anyone. I mean, Baker Mayfield,
He's he's gonna win the Heisman, like there's there's no
doubt about it. Um, there's just from watching tape this
year from me though I said this on the air,

(01:38:23):
he might be the most accurate quarterback I've ever seen.
Like I've never seen a guy where it went games
where I didn't see him miss a throw And when
I say that, I mean every single ball, someone had
the opportunity to get their hands on the football. Like
it's very seldom you see him overthrower pass, throw something
into the ground, or just flat out and miss a throw.
I mean, he is as accurate as it gets. Is
that kind of something that you've seen throughout the course

(01:38:45):
of his career there? Oh, absolutely. And every year he's
lost his best receiver from the year before. His first
year as a starter, he had Sterling Shepherd. Shepherd leaves
d D Westbrook comes in, takes a couple of games
for DD to get going. D D goes to the
league this year, he just it's like the receiving corps
gets even better. Same thing with the running backs. And
it's crazy too to see how well and Brady You've

(01:39:07):
seen enough of them to know this. It's crazy to
see how well he and Lincoln Riley work together, some
of the designs that they added, some of the players
they added for this game against TCU, and and it
starts up front with the time you get for some
of those crossing routes that they ran and those those
inside slants. But I mean, it's it's really fun to
watch how in tune this dude is with his head

(01:39:29):
coach and what he wants to do, and then he's
everything you want in your quarterback. It would suck to
have to be a team that's watching him and he's
playing against you. So I've been blessed to not have
to worry about that. I worry about that in the NFL,
but to see him and have him as your guy,
with that attitude, with that accuracy, with that composure and
that grasp of this offense, it's it's really something else.

(01:39:50):
And I think he's the Heisman Heisman winner Jonas running away, Oh,
no doubt about it. He is Chris playing Fox Sports Radio.
Ho She also hear him on the Sooner Radio network,
joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. There's there's sort
of a narrative about Baker Mayfield. People want to compare
him to Johnny Manziel. They see sort of a wild guy,
a reckless guy. You're around him more than anybody. What

(01:40:11):
what is Baker Mayfield? How much of this is sort
of a misunderstanding? And how beloved is he by his teammates?
They're in Norman, It's he's he could be if there
was a such thing as like a president of Oklahoma.
He he and Russell Westbrook. I think he'd edge out
Russ right now. It's unbelievable to see this love affair
that this fan base has had with Baker Mayfield. And

(01:40:32):
Jonas said, it goes back to his story in general.
This was a dude that grew up an Oklahoma fan
when he was a kid, didn't get a scholarship offer
out of high school, decided to go to walk on
at Texas Tech, then had the mess with Cliff Kingsbury,
and whenever he decided to come to Oklahoma, they had
four or five quarterbacks on the roster, including a guy

(01:40:52):
named Trevor Knight who would just come off an incredible
performance in the Sugar Bowl. How Lincoln Riley was at
East Carolina and he was trying to recruit him to
East Carol line and Lincoln said today, I was telling
him he wasn't gonna play because Trevor Knight was there,
and he just was not having any of it. And
he walked on at Oklahoma, and obviously in three years
as a starter, he's now gone to two four team
playoffs and won a Sugar Bowl by the way over

(01:41:14):
that vaunted SEC. So it's been it's been pretty amazing
to see him become just this iconic figure in Sooner history.
He's gonna have a statue out front. His attitude, I
think is sometimes misrepresented because he is He's a very
confident dude and and I mean some would call it
arrogance or cockiness, and and it's there. But he's fun,

(01:41:35):
he's nice. He gives back to the community. He's always
working with youngsters. He's always a guy that is trying
to be the best person he can possibly be. And
I just get the biggest kick out of him. I
I think he's a great dude. I want to be
Baker Mayfield when I grow up, and I can't wait
to see what he's gonna do, not just in the playoffs,
but in the next level. Yeah, I'm kind of excited
to see where he'll have the opportunity to go at
some point. But look, Chris, he's still got some work

(01:41:57):
ahead of him. You talked about in the Sugar Bowl
is the SEC. He's gotta go up against another SEC
opponent this time around in the semifinal game versus Georgia.
What do you think about the chances of Oklahoma be
able to win it all? Because I gotta tell you, Chris,
they actually, to me are my favorite to win at all.
I think that offense is so good it's just gonna
be too tough to stop. You and me, we're on

(01:42:18):
that same but we might be the only ones right now, Brady.
But you've seen him a ton this year. I've I've
seen every play that Lincoln Rally is called as an
offensive coordinator and head coach at Oklahoma, every snap the
Baker Mayfield has taken. This is the best that this
team has looked in those three years. And I get it.
You know, they're not where they need to be defensively,
but they have these moments. I mean, since the second

(01:42:40):
half of the Oklahoma State game when they decided to
bring in a freshman at corner and Trey Norwood and
make him the guy, they've been pretty good. They shut
down TCU in that second half while they ran away
from him. And let's face it, as impressive as Jake
from has been, the dudes not even averaging two hundred
yards passing per game. These are three any backs that

(01:43:00):
are better than probably any back that the Sooners have
seen this year. But you just get this sense that
at least with Georgia, they play into Oklahoma strengths, and
then if it's Clemson or Alabama, we'll have another conversation there.
But I love where the offense is. I love the
design of what they're doing. It's been there all season long.
And I like the way that this defense is developing.
You see more confidence with uh They have a true

(01:43:23):
freshman Mike Linebacker. I mean, the guy who's the quarterback
of the defense is a true freshman. So I've liked
I've liked what I've seen from the growth there. I
think it's getting better. It's obviously not what you hang
your hat on, but you're gonna need it if you're
gonna win a championship. And I'm thinking if they can
put thirty five on the board against Georgia, they're gonna
win the game. Chris Plank, Fox Sports Radio host, you

(01:43:44):
can hear them when we go off the air a
half hour from now with the stinking genius Arnie Spaniard
coming up at eleven p m. Eastern Time here on
Fox Sports Radio. Also a member of the Sooner Radio Network. Chris,
you are the man. Thanks for popping on, brother. We
appreciate it. Hey and I get to see you now, Jonas.
You know, we're coming out to Pacity, so to see
you in a couple of weeks. So I'm excited about

(01:44:04):
that to actually be in the Geico Fox Sports Radio
So that'll be fun. Man, I can't wait. Thanks man,
Thanks guy. Chris Blank's the best man. He's a good dude,
which I would have gotten to see him. We were
kind of tied up with a bunch of different things
before the game and I was talking to Mike Defee,
the official. I'm not sure if you know who that is.
He's the guy with the there's the guns man, that

(01:44:26):
guy he likes to work out. Yeah, let me tell
you who that guy is. That's the guy who sits
at the Preacher curl machine for two hours. That's all
he does is curls like he does not do anything else.
I'm okay with it because you know, I thought there's
a chance like those two teams might get into it.
Before the game. They got one look at Mike Defeat
didn't want anything of it. He's he laid down of

(01:44:47):
the law a couple of times, and that officiating crew
did a tremendous job. And all credits to Mike Defee
and his guns. All right, so who's who's got the
better arms? All right? Mike defe or ed hockey Lee
because I know let himself go a little bit, and
not not to call you out ed, and I don't
mean to call you out, but I think you might
have let yourself go a little bit. You're going for

(01:45:08):
lean muscle, not mass. I think Mike was gonna say
the same thing. I think he must be doing more
like endurance training or something, because defeat is bulked up
like down there in the field. I was kind of
looking at him like, man, you like to get after
and he was like, yes, I do. He did not,
He did not try to run away from that steament
at all. He was And then of course my my
play by play partners throwing under the bus for not

(01:45:30):
working out before our game Saturday, So I felt great
about that. Joe Joe Davis three under the bus. Huh
oh yeah, it was. It was like a you know,
fifteen thousand pound tour bus. Funny because I've never thrown
you under the bus. It's good to have a partner
who doesn't do that. Huh. You come up with these
ridiculous discussion points that you try to you try to

(01:45:52):
take both sides of the discussion. You know what, man,
it's a new audience. Let's forget all about that. Let's
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You know, I can see Live bet Jesus as Steve Disager.
I really can. That dude just got that look about him.
It's informative. I mean I did see that. Yeah, that's

(01:46:35):
like that. I mean I don't mean to call Steve
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if I if somebody told me I could see you
as live bet Jesus, oh my god, Like I see,
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(01:46:56):
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(01:47:18):
it comes out to whats of you it was pumble
that went through the end zone and they're gonna say
it's a touchbark and the Seahawks are gonna take off
what want oh by quick? This and that was in
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(01:47:42):
here to kind of just dumped dirt on top of
the college throwing some under the bus. But you know,
Seahawks at that point, we're up ten to three. They
marched right down the field of Russell Wilson found tire
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(01:48:02):
and some change left in the third quarter, Seahawks against
seventeen Eagles, just three some finals from earlier today, he Paul,
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lowly Browns right now oh and twelve, and the Raiders
beat a Giants team without Eli Minning at quarterback to
seventeen Marshall Its did show up seventeen carries for a
hundred one yards and also one score. Packers in overtime

(01:48:50):
beat the Buccaneers. Patriots down the Bills twenty three to
three San Francisco with a costly win in Chicago fifteen fourteen,
and the Ravens beat up on the Detroit Lions twenty
Matthew Stafford was knocked out of the ball game with
a hand injury. X rays were negative. Jimmy Smith on
the other side torn achilles. He has done for the season.

(01:49:10):
Fellas Thanks Dave Jonas knocks uh Grady Quinn here on
Fox Sports Radio Comedy Alive for the getic Fox Sport
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The only hard part figuring out which way is easier. Man,
I'm so glad, you know what, I'm glad that we
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(01:49:34):
score in the NFL and just decided, do you know what,
those six or seven games, we're not talking about him
at all. We're gonna go ahead and move right along
to the big stories. I mean, who gives a rip
about Niners Bears? Who cares? Well, there's the assessment of
Jimmy Garoppolo. You know, I'm not sure what you saw
in that game. Teri Cohen did every ridiculous punt return

(01:49:56):
for fresh down. That was fun. That was fun. But
bottom line is there there's only you know, they're just
hurting their draft position. If you're the Niners and for
the Bears, um, I would imagine there'll be some changes.
Changes are coming. Hey, I think I think John Fox
might get clipped before the end of the year. Yeah,
I think that might happen. I mean, like everyone always says, well,

(01:50:17):
you're the advantage, You're you're out there kind of you know,
able to try to hire someone before, but you're technically
only able to hire someone who's not already working in
the NFL, Like that's the issue. Well here, but here's
the other part. Don't you think if you if you
fire somebody and you make it the only reason I
could see them doing it is if they see Vic Fangio,
the defensive coordinator who there's already been rumblings that Kyle

(01:50:38):
Shanahan wants him in San Francisco. So should the whole
should everybody get they clean house completely in Chicago, that
Vic Fangio goes back to San Francisco and he's a
very accomplished defensive coordinator. Um, but the only the only
thinking and getting rid of foxes. Maybe they'd want to
see what Fangio could possibly do as a head coach
if they even considered him one. You know, if if

(01:50:59):
if you was even a legitimate possibility, Because then you're
hearing the reports that Ben McAdoo could get fired as
early as Monday, like that might go down on Monday.
Which if that's the case, you talk about an organization
now throwing the coach under the bus like that. I mean,
the Giants are just a disaster all the way around.
So no, And I think the interesting thing there is
just how you know, how that organization would then handle

(01:51:22):
um the next head coach and then with Eli Manning,
right if they if they honestly are trying to kind
of cover up the dumpster fire they created by benching
Manny in the first place, which, by the way, like
let's say they do fire Macadoo. I mean, whoever the
interim guy is, like he might say, well, I want
to start it right now, like think about how bad
that could actually make this whole thing look and how

(01:51:43):
and like like we're gonna look through history and say,
remember when Eli Manning had that streak and it wasn't
due to injury, it was because just he basically got
a head coach kind of go rogue in the organization
and they want to bench him for Gino Smith. But
the whole thing was bizarre. But uh, the the only
thing I think it is interesting that you should talk
about girars. The NFL is through that a f C West.
It just got pretty darn It's gonna be so much

(01:52:05):
fun down the stretch, so much fun, like like big
time playoff games at a soccer stadium. Possibly, Like think
about that that's awesome. I can't wait. But how about
this Kansas, Kansas City has lost four straight. And I
know if you look at Daily Chargers, the Oakland Raiders,
and then now the Chiefs, they're all said at six
and six. The problem is the Chiefs own the tiebreakers,

(01:52:27):
So even though they're all in the three a tie
at the moment, right down, the Chiefs have a tiebreaker,
so there's still technically number one, even on a four
game losing streak, while the Charges of one three in
a row and and the Raiders have won the last two.
I mean, it's just kind of ridiculous to think how
bad they've been, but they're still ahead of everyone else technically.
All right, So he's Brady Quin. I'm Jonas Knocks. This

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(01:53:08):
one three three sal join um. So we're gonna do
over unders coming up next segment, because I want to
have a little bit more time for that. Plus, I
think I may have caught Brady Quinn in a full
blown lie, right, a lie? Alright, you may have been exposed,
my friend, and not the good kind either. That's next
year on FSR Jonas Knocks Brady Quinny or Fox Sports Radio. Uh.

(01:53:33):
I think Brady may have been caught in a lie
and we're gonna expose him for it here coming up
in just a couple of minutes. And I don't want
to give away any details here. I'm not I'm not
here to stir the pot. I just want to say
that I have it on good authority that you may
have been gotten a lie. Okay, okay, so curious al right,
So we'll we will have that for you here coming
up in just a couple of minutes. We also have
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something we do every single week called this time to
put your money where your mouth is. You Ryan Life, Gamily,
the Henry it's over under and for that we turn

(01:54:15):
it over to our executive producer, Eric Roberts. Eric, what
do we got man? Alright, guys, So um real quick
segment this week. So last week we only had one
different over under the guys bet on so it was
a number of interceptions thrown by Joe Flacco over and
was set a two and a half. Brady took the over,
Jonas Sick the oh, Brady took the under. Jonas Sick
the over, So Brady did win. Technically there was there

(01:54:36):
is one over under still up in the air, but
you guys both took the under on a number of
TV's thrown by Carson Wentz at one in five. But
so it does look like Brady's gonna win this week. Yeah,
of course, Well, I mean, how would I not win
this week? So up the real quick update, guys, we
got we got four weeks left because these now from
now here, it counts like just just from here on,

(01:54:57):
just from here. So we got four I think I
think I kind of four shows left in the year,
and Brady has a seven pick lead on you Jonas.
It's honestly probably more than that. But at some point
Eric is just getting yeah, my math is probably fuzzy somewhere,
but yeah, no, it's Brady's has eighty seven correct picks.
Jonas has eighty, So it's it's gonna come down. That's

(01:55:17):
a good number for you, Jonas. You should feel good
about that. Um. I mean it's exhibition. I mean nobody
cares about you know, spring training or preseason football. So
what do we really By the way, I think Russell
Wilson just got decapitated. I think it's chest just exploded.
And I'm not sure, like where was he throwing them?
I think he's throwing it at you. Seriously, I can't
run with the camera. I thought I'm all the way

(01:55:38):
over here throwing it at Brady in Fort Lauderdale. Um, alright,
So so then all right, so Brady is winning and
I need to make up some big you need to
make up seven seven picks here in the last four
weeks of the year or so, starting started with the
next week, guys. So number of tds for Levy on
Bell on Monday Night football against the Bengals tomorrow night
over under one and a half. Oh, on man, the

(01:56:05):
Bengals defense has actually been playing pretty good. I do
think he gets one Antonio Brown. His status is up
in the air too, right well, he had like his
toe injury. He's gonna play. Do you think he's gonna play?
I think I do. I'm thinking the under then I'm
gonna ride with Jonas because if he plays, obviously that's another,
you know, another option down there. If he doesn't, then

(01:56:26):
I think they run the football more and he's probably
who they're gonna be targeting down there. All guys. So
next game on the Thursday night football game between the
Saints in Atlanta Gainst Falcons. Number of TV's thrown by
Breeze and Matt Ryan over under three and a half
over combined. He's combined combined. Yeah, okay, that's easy. Yeah over.

(01:56:46):
I mean, is that really like a line out there?
I make these up. I make all these up, kid.
I thought this as I feel like that, I feel
better about this that you thought these were actually pretty good?
Meaning come on, like we've done like you think people
are actually betting big money back to these, back to

(01:57:08):
those back to those Nathan hot dog eating competitions and stuff. Man,
those are all me dude. Brady is totally gonna if
you if you come if you come back, Jonas, Brady's
gonna undermine all of this because of that, of course. Yeah,
and then he'll he'll bullie me. This is why, this
is why the numbers aren't even right, because you guys
clearly have been trying to make this seem closer than

(01:57:30):
it has been. Anyway. I took the over, okay, so
you guys have not different on two picks. Now he's
playing defense, so it looks like that that lead is
not going to disappear. Sending it over at two and
a half for the number of t ds for the
Giants against the Cowboys on Sunday morning, Guys, Giants in
New York. Okay, over over under two and a half,

(01:57:52):
two and a half offensive or defensive just tds total
total total tds Okay, I mean no, like if the
defense has a pick six, if a defense isn't pick six,
does that count? Yes, yes tds guys, Um, I'm taking
the under. I'll go over Okay, Yeah, I'm I'm gonna
get be as negative as Brady Coin over here. I'll

(01:58:13):
go over reference. I'm gonna back my guy Ben McAdoo. Okay, guys,
the maybe the Marquee matchup for the NFSY next week
Eagles at Rams over under three and a half for
the number of t D passes by Goff and Wentz combined.

(01:58:34):
I got that, Okay, I'm just making sure. I'm just
I don't want to confuse anybody, don't. Here's the thing
about the Rams. Pretty good defenses. Well, but you can
run on the Rams like like I could. I could
see Philadelphia going into this game being like, you know,
I mean, Kerwin Williams had over a hundred yards. I
think he gets the Rams today. I mean, like, who
is Kerwin? Isn't that Like, isn't a commercial called Kerwin

(01:58:54):
Williams or something? I think it was. If his name
was sure what he would have been in the Pro
Bowl by Now? How about that? It shows It shows
you how many times you've actually paid it anything of
your life, Jonas, because if you had, you actually would
know that's the name of the store. I don't know that. Um,
all right, Uh, I will go I'll go the over,

(01:59:17):
I'll go over three and a half. Ah, this is tough.
You're you're you're you're texting somebody else. I don't like.
My problem is I don't want to pick the same
as you because it doesn't make it as fun. But
that's what I believe it's gonna be the case. Like
I would take the over, it's unbelieved. Like you remember
the one time we did an early early in the season,

(01:59:38):
we did one of these over unders on a Dolphins
game and Brady was stalling. And I know why he
was stalled because he was texting Adam Gates to find
out the game plan. That's not true. I'm gonna take
the over as well. That's what I believe is gonna happen. Alright, alright, guys.
Final one number of TV passes by Jimmy Garoppolo next
week against the Texans over under one and a half.

(02:00:01):
M hm, even have one? He did not have one
today Now in Houston, I'll go over. I'm I'm gonna
go over for Jimmy g A little bit of faith
in Jimmy gi there Um. Definitely, it's gonna throw one.
I'm gonna take the under. I think he throws one.

(02:00:22):
I don't think he gets to two. All right, So
we've differed on how many you can maybe make up
some ground your next week. It will be a five
game lead by this time next week, and I feel
good about that. So I feel very comfortable comfortable saying
that here on Fox Sports Radio. All right, so he
is Brady Quin, I'm Jonas Knocks. Is this Fox Sports
Radio Company alive? From the guy go Fox Sports Radio
Studios Top of the Hour, which is a radio term

(02:00:43):
for less than seven minutes from now, you are going
to hear Chris Plank and Arnie span Your always a
good show. Make sure you stick around for that. They
are coming up. Um. All right, So, Brady, I think
you've been caught in a lie. Okay, Now, I'm not
gonna tell you who gave me this information, but we
were talking earlier in the show about the Boca Ratone Bowl,
which this year, Yeah, the Boca Bowl which this year

(02:01:05):
is uh is featuring f Au Lane Kippins, f Au Owls,
and Akron I don't even know what is the Akron
zips zips um. So you were talking about how you
know your wife loves going to this Boca Bowl. Correct Now,
I am again I'm not going to reveal my source,
but I can't tell you that I was sent some

(02:01:26):
information that said the following. All right, don't get it twisted.
She only goes to the Boca Bowl with him because
he takes her to Burger five afterwards hashtag cheap date.
You wanted to defend yourself, Brady. True. Uh, but here's
the here's the thing about that she wants to go

(02:01:48):
to Burger five. My wife loves burgers, so we go
there afterwards because they got a pretty good burger and
she loves it. So all, I mean, she's an awesome chick.
I'm incredibly lucky, thirty years old today. It's a pretty
big deal. Now do you can you guess my source
who may have sent me that, I have no idea
it was her. So so I'm now concerned because I

(02:02:10):
guess she actually does listen to the show. So so
now we're in trouble. Now I'm really concerned. Oh Man,

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