Willard and Ohrnberger: 03/11/2018

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Um for you on this election Sunday. Um. So he

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was a former teammate of yours as he was, he's
a good buddy of yours because you're a buddy of mine.
He's now a buddy of mine because he was a
buddy of yours. Transitive property. That's right. His name is
Danny Woodhead. He's a running back for the Baltimore Ravens.
And he tweeted this morning very sarcastically. Oh and I
know he's prone to that SORR. Huge golf fan, huge

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college basketball fan. Today is a big day for him,
and so he's ready to rock and he's sarcastically tweeted
a short time ago. Boy can't wait for some team
with a losing record to win their conference tournament and
end up in the championship event. This would be the
same thing as an eight and four team ending up

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in the college football playoff. What do you think about that? Well,
I think, first of all, in college football, that would
be impossible. I mean, like, if you really think about it,
like the comparison doesn't hold water because it just it
just doesn't feel realistic. I think you would absolutely have

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to crack uh double digit wins to for consideration, no
matter what, unless they expand the playoffs, because you know
the final four teams are going to be one or
at max two lost teams. I think three losses even
would be ridiculous. So uh, we'll start there, but then
we'll finish here. I love the fact that a bubble

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team with a losing record can sneak into a bracket
somewhere and go on a miracle run and make college
basketball as relevant and as fun as we have known
and love it to be. It's just what makes this
time of the year magical in sports. It's the fact
that nobody knew who Butler was, and all of a sudden,

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everybody knows who Butler was. Nobody knows who George Mason is,
and all of a sudden, everybody knows who George Mason,
nobody knows who Craton is, and all of a sudden
they can like talk about their percentage from beyond the arc.
It's just, let's be a great thing. Let's be honest.
Nobody knows who anybody is. You know you and I
just sat here five minutes ago and went, okay, how

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many college basketball players can you name? I didn't. I didn't,
I didn't fill up one hand. I'm like, uh, I
got let's see, I got Grace and Allen, and I
got this guy DeAndre Ayton, whom I had taken a
bunch of dough and then uh, let's take a Trey
Young and I'm positive there's somebody named Bagley. Danny plays

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for Duke. He's gonna be one and done. And speaking
of one and done, that's what I am with college
basketball on a yearly basis. So here here's kind of
the reaction to it. And and Danny's an awesome dude,
and I agree with most of the things that come
out of his mouth. That's why we started with this
today because I'm like, I actually don't agree with Danny
Woodhead the idea that we would compare any sport to

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college football and then insinuate that college football is the
one that has it right. That's yours? Whoa stop? Like
right now? College football on a year in and year basis,
as far as any sporting event, is the example of
what not to do when it comes to how to

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finish your program college football. College football season finishes with
like a mom wearing an apron and yellow gloves turned
around from the kitchen sink, going because I said, so,
that's why Alabama is in the Final four. Now go
to your room. That was a terrible image because it

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was way too relevant. So um, exactly exactly college football
ends in season with mom in the kitchen saying, because
I said so, none of it makes sense, but she's
had it up to hear and so deal with it.
College basketball is maybe not perfect, but let's be honest.
These teams that may have a losing record or somebody's

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got Grand Canyon State or who knows whatever, they're not
gonna win a national championship. This week is their championship um.
And so what this creates is, first of all, before
the championship round, we get some sort of fun and
drama and urgency. You and I work during the week

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on the flagship radio station for San Diego State basketball.
What just happened in the bit in the Mountain West
for for that school and that city and that market
and all phenomenal phenomenal. There were five seedy They were
born late into this year. They were thirteen and ten
four weeks ago. Two stars injured for part of the year. Yep,

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haven't lost since beat Gonzaga, beat Nevada twice, nationally ranked
team like they're good. And so college basketball does something
that college football doesn't in that it opens itself up
to a team that might be really good but wasn't
good out of the gate. And by the way, tell

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me the other sport that doesn't do that. There's only one.
It's college football. There's only one sport that can get
to the end of the year and go, we love
what you're doing, but you messed up five months ago.
There's only one sport that does it, and it's college football.
And it's a total migrant headache college basketball. This creates urgency.

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It's fun. The little guy, no matter who you are,
has a shot Central Florida. This year's running around with
bumper stickers and coaching bonuses and the rest of the
world's laughing at him. But in college hoops, we would
actually gotten to see Okay, what can you Yeah, let's
see a Central Florida. I mean, and since then we've
gotten to see some of the goods on display. They

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have a linebacker named shakem griff was grabbed headlines at
the Combine run and a for three eight as a
linebacker benching twenty reps missing a hand. My goodness, Uh,
can you imagine the storylines also that would have been attached.
That's something that we didn't even understand, a really like
was visible to us as a nation a sports watching

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nation until the combine. Imagine how far behind the eight
ball we are to have missed a linebacker playing exceptionally
well throughout a football season who doesn't have a hand
on one of his arms. Like it's beyond me, Like
why we don't get we're robbed of that opportunity. You
know what's beautiful about college basketball is it dares itself

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to be wrong. It says, Okay, yes, Duke is the
pride and joy of this whole circus. Kentucky. Obviously, what
cal Pari has done Arizona recent years really good. Sean
Millar Dayton, this this is going to be um what
it is unless unless one of these teams who we

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allow in Danny woodhead with a losing record and and
give them just the same number of marbles in front
of them. That's everybody else. What can you do with it? Well,
maybe you can shock the world. Yeah, I mean the
answer is probably nothing. However, let's go, let's let's move
it a little further. That's a team with a losing
record that suddenly has this great week. We see that

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every now and again, and those teams end up being
a sixteen seed and somebody who wiped the floor of
them on Thursday. That's fine. However, there are, uh, there
are a lot of scenarios where a team that that
is either a late bloomer or catches fire at the
right time, ends up making a run. Arizona won the

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national championship behind Miles Simon and Mike Bibbie. I think
they were five or six seed. They were not expected
to win. That stuff can happen, and for some reason
in college basketball we get the fairness police. Oh just
want to pull everybody over. Wait a minute, You shouldn't
be able to just get hot at the end of
the year and win the whole thing. Oh you mean

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like the New York Giants. Like, we don't get bothered
by this in other sports where somebody can just work
their way. And there was a stretch about six or
seven years ago where baseball had a wild card team
win the World Series about three or four years in
a row. Nobody was bothered by it. So why would
we be bothered by the five of the six of

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the seven seed making a run. Here you mentioned Creighton,
Butler Gonzaga was in the finals last year. I know
Gonzaga is a big seed, but it's a tiny school
in the Northwest corner of the United States um and
in the West Coast Conference. Name another team out of
US playing for a national championship. These are the things
that you can get in college basketball. And I'm I'm

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I'm sorry, I'm in I mean, look, I remember people
were shocked and awed by the fact that back in
the Seahawks at seven the nine, we're able to knock
off wild card contender out of the NFC South, the Saints.
It was the Saints that that's right. The Seahawks were
the division winner at seven and nine. Yes, and the

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Saints were the top wild card, probably won eleven or
twelve games, but had to go on the road. It was.
It was the birth of beast Mode. And and and
trust me when I tell you, and yeah, and and
Marshawn Lynch, my goodness, greatest, trust me when I tell you.
People were astounded. But then they were intrigued. They were like,
who are they facing in the next round? This is
must see stuff. That's the reason why NFL playoffs get

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terrific ratings, phenomenal ratings. Everybody's glued. That's why March is
such a special year in sports. You have the floor
Senator State, your case, and it does it in dramatic form.
I love watching basketball this time of the year, and
and and really, like you said, I'm one and done too.
I check in and then I checked right back out

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because it's a new set of characters, every single your
new set of faces. And that's the best part, I
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Frank Schwab is gonna join us in about ten minutes,
NFL all things. What does it mean when Geico says
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dot com fifteen minutes ago. I struggled with the Richard
Sherman thing to the niners. I sat down with it,
and I'm like, okay, hang on a second, because I'm

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not someone who goes, oh a name, right, We do
that in all American corporations way too often. Hell, it
happens in this business all the time. We need a name, No,
you need a good show. Um maybe that's a name,
maybe it's not. And it's the same thing in the NFL. Hey,

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the Rams, we got Marcus Peters and to keep to leave. Okay, talented,
lack of doodle, but talented. We'll see which way it goes.
I mean the Yankee wide receivers chains or are we
gonna get interceptions? I don't know, because he had one
of each last year. Well I remember Aaron Judge with
the Yankees, Like that sounded so big, so important, so booming.

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The guy like struck out a ton last year. But
then he comes out, he swings out of his shoes.
He's an a l m v P candidate Like this
is the sees the way it works. Sometimes it's it's
sink or swim with the name expectations. We're seeing it
actually happened with show. Hey Otani, uh, you know, but
but but Richard Sherman, you know, to your point, I think,

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not only is a name, is he a name? But
he's a guy like we just played that little sounder
of him going ll ob yelling at Aaron Andrews after that,
and NFC Championship game against right, screaming at the fort
and then now he's right, and you know he's battling
crab Tree and crab Trees telling him stuff on the field,
trash talking. This is a prideful human being. This is

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a guy who at practice was shouting awful things that
Russell Wilson for throwing an interception during their Patriots Super Bowl,
essentially dashing their hopes of winning the game at the
goal line. I mean, this is a guy who's a
fiery competitor. If you're looking for a landing spot where

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he's going to performed better than the forty Niners to
go against his old squad who released him for squawking
too much, I can't think of one. Well, see now
that's that's a great point. And and this is why
I'm struggling with it. It's like, Okay, um, he's hurt. Yeah,
he's coming off of coming off a significant injury, and

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he's already on that point in his career where you're
like you're gonna start to decline. I think he was anyway,
even before the injury. Still very good though, So okay,
starting to decline, hurt and uh, I mean alienated a
Pro Bowl level quarterback at his last place. So like

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I'm I'm thinking about Garoppolo, Like, okay, you're gonna start
yelling at Garoppolo if he throws an interception? Is that good?
And you signed with the forty Niners so fast? I'm thinking,
did you actually want to be a forty Niner or
did you just want to play the Seahawks twice? So
these were the one show older had the devil on it. Okay,

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and these are the thoughts going through my head. And
then here's the here's the Angels side. Um, he he
is Richard Sherman. He's very good. Um, maybe that will
be a motivator that he is in the same division
as the Seahawks. He's a Bay Area guy, he went
to Stanford. And here's what took the cake for me.

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I started thinking about Reuben Foster. Reuben Foster is on
the track to be the face slash leader of the
forty Niners defense. He was now he don't even know
what's going on with him. I don't know if he's
going to be suspended to start the year. I don't
know if he's somebody you can trust. There's one thing
to get caught with marijuana. Nobody in the Bay Area cares.

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It's obviously another thing to be caught with domestic violence
allegations and guns. That's a totally different deal. And so
the forty Niners were this faceless, just wandering team and
then Garoppolo showed up and he's their face of the offense. Yes, now,
Richard Sherman, if he has anything left of the old

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Richard Sherman, he can become the face of the defense.
And I believe they need that. I think any really
good team, or any really good group, offense or defense,
they need that. They need to face a talker, a
spiritual leader, a motivator. And now maybe have it. And look,
what is it? A three year deal where nine million

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and so and it's football, so you can get rid
of him, you know, I mean next year, whatever the
guarantees are. I'm sure they didn't give him a ton
up front. I mean, although I imagine he'll be there
for at least a year given whatever they paid him
to sign, and then average salary, like you said, with incentives,
this isn't going to be like paying for a star

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top cornerback in the league. What you're getting this guy,
who turns thirty at the end of this month. Over
the past four seasons has been inarguably the number one
corner in football. However, that play has declined and it
and he he was injured last season and a season
ender and an achilles injury, something that we all know
is a very very tough injury to come back from

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and be the same player. However, what makes a terrific
defensive secondary, even during his time with Seattle this was true,
is a ferocious front four. The forty Niners have quietly
put together one of the most dominant fronts in football.
And if Ruben Foster can get his act together and
be a part of that front seven, this is going

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to be scary. Uh. They got that kid out of
Stanford and last year's draft, oh, Salomon Thomas out of Okay.
They had uh Forrest uh DeForrest Buckner the year before
that out of out of Oregon. Like, they are slowly
but surely stockpiling a pass rushing threat that is going

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to give opposed and quarterbacks a lot less time and
they're gonna be throwing the ball up to a guy
who's savvy, who's been around the league, who has the
scouting report on all of these NFC West contenders, who
understands this division, understands how to play against top tier talent,
and understands when you have that sort of talent around you,
how to sculpt it into something serious like the Legion

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of Boomtz. They also have the number nine pick, and
they are drunk with cap space. Okay, it was the Browns,
the Jets, and the forty Niners. The three teams that
have a ton of cap space. Only one of them
has a really good quarterback. That's the forty Niners. Okay,
the Browns just got Tyrod Taylor, by the way, used
a bunch of their cap space on that. So now
the Jets are number one and the forty Niners are

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number two with cap space. I think you know what
you're saying. You make a really good point. But again, um,
when you have those young players, do you kind of
need someone that can guide them, be a motivational force,
being an intimidator. A good defense needs to be intim ainating.
And the forty Niners, you said they were putting together

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a really good front seven, they had like no cornerbacks.
They like they still need more. They'll probably draft more,
they'll probably sign another one. They had nothing at that position. Um,
and so this again, when I think about it, are
there some concerns, sure, and I think you can see
those in the contract numbers that he got. However, um,

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I think that the the upside clearly outweighs it. And
for the forty Niners it makes a whole lot of sense.
And they've just got a ton of flexibility and they're
starting to mix in those young talented guys, mix in
the veteran editions that you need to do. Uh. And look,
look what's happened. The Seahawks are going into a modified

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or mini rebuild. The Cardinals still don't have their quarterback.
Maybe they'll get Kirk Cousins, but maybe they won't. And
if they don't, the Rams are making their big push.
Forty Niners are making their big push. Look, this team
was one and ten two three months ago and since
then they have not lost a football game. I don't know.

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Are they the favorite in the West this year? At minimum?
There the second favorite in the NFC West. Look the
way I look at Richard Sherman is sort of at
this point in his career, turning thirty into position whereas
not there. It's it's really not particularly kind to old men.
Uh in this game at least he's, you know, thirties,
not an old man by far. Cry but in football
you're getting way up there at corner, no question. Let's

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talk about Ray Lewis. Towards the end of his career,
he wasn't even he was a shell of his former self.
He wasn't even playing in that many games the year
he finished out. I think he only started six of
those games. I mean, now, don't get me wrong, impactful,
passionate leader, uh, intimidator, aggressor, the voice, the heartbeat of

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that team. I am. I am. I guessing that Jimmy
Garoppolo is going to allow Richard Sherman to walk in
the door and just barn storm the entire team. Though
I think Jimmy Garoppolo has a seat at the table.
But I will say this, the admiration will be there
from Sherman to a former Patriot who he's competed against
and understands that system he came from. And then he'll

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see him at practice every day and Garoppolo will respect
what he's done throughout a storied career in the NFL.
This could be a really, really great signing for the fortys.
And like I said, revenge is a terrific motivator, especially
for a guy like that, right, and especially if the
forty Niners do make the Super Bowl and they have
a you know, like a third goal at the one.
All right, you know, they think they'll run the ball

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and then everything everything, You'll be fine. I don't know
who they're running that is, but I think they'll I
think they'll run the ball. Okay, Frank Swaps jumping in
here in just a minute, Rich you have what I
consider And you and I haven't talked this out yet.
I think you have a banana's idea about where Kirk
Cousins may go. Uh let's talk about that in a
couple but right now, let's get gas on in here.

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Good morning, Dave, No college you have updates today. I
only want to hear your thoughts on Tiger. That's it.
Why dumb, because man, that's the big story important. He's
doing it. He's wearing red. Tell us about us. Every
college basketball player combined does not have the star power

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of Tiger Woods. About that. Take that for dat, Well,
what's a bold statement. No, it's not at all. It's
just like it was like, that is just a statement. Yeah,
that's like you like dunking one of your kids and
I totally do that Instagram empty Willard I won. I

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wanted I want a dunk contest against my son at
the school last weekend. It was like a seven and
a half foot ram. I did the sets of bolos,
put a shirt over my head, dunked it. Won the
whole thing. Yeah, I was thinking in his face. I
was thinking like maybe you turn yourself in a shack
and you turn you're son into like Ricky Dudley. And
then just like Ricky Dodley, I did the Blake Griffin

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in the same dunk contest, I jumped over a play
school car. Was Steve Hartman's guys. College basketball today get
a handful of games that need to be played. One
of them includes the IVY League match up with Harvard
and Penn. It's Foreman coming across half court four seconds

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not in the half a free cointer g forman hit
it and there's your fuzzer and the Quakers run off
the floor to the locker room. Put a two point.
They're comfortable. Right now. It's fifty seven seven, twenty to
play in the ballgame. Mewall, Kentucky and Tennessee. It's all
Wildcats in this thing. Early on to twelve Davidson and

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Rhode Island. Davidson up by a buck. It's two. And
then later on today you get number eight Cincinnati and
number twenty one Houston. Meanwhile, engulf the valspurg champions Ship.
All right, back to you guys Tiger Woods. He's he's
hanging around. I'm gonna clap because he made the cut.

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It's a good job, a great job by you. It's
not it's not a major, but good job. Now not
that man's mind. Do you guys know what the purse
is for this one? Um like all of our salaries
plus that doesn't count. I don't know. Winner get a million,

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six and a half. Okay, so what does the winner get?
Winner gets? I don't know. Winner takes a look at
bad it's pretty standard, pretty standard for winter gets a Kia.
Corey Connors as your leader. Right now, he's at minus
nine and Tiger Woods, as we mentioned, is uh, he's
hanging around. He's one stroke behind. He will have he

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will have a red shirt on today. He goes from
pink yesterday to red. It's right, that's right. He is
a man who is comfortable in his masculinity, just like you, David.
What is that supposed to be? It's a compliment, you come.
That's a backhead that seems really come on, fragile guy.

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I can tell all right, Geico, Fox Sports Radio Studios.
Thanks Dave. Let's get Frank Schwab in here at Yahoo,
Schwab on Twitter, NFL writer for Shutdown Corner. Frank I am.
I am totally confident the Browns are still calling our
quarterbacks name at number one overall. But I've heard a

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lot of different people read this a lot of different ways. Um,
some people think it's now Sae Kwon Barkley because of
Tyrod Taylor. I know Rich has a really interesting idea
about where this could go. But what's your read on
what the trades mean for what the Browns are going
to do in the draft? I viewed it as Taylor
means that if they draft Barkley one and their quarterback

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isn't there before, then it's not a disaster because it
would have been before. I mean, if you're saying, let's
say you're the Browns. You like two of these full quarterbacks, right,
you like Rosen and Darmo. If Rosen and darn will
go two and three. If somebody trades up with the
Colts to go three, well what have you done? Then
You've you've drafted a running back number one and you
didn't get a quarterback you like. So I think in
this scenario, if you draft Barkley number one, because you

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just think he's a generational guy and he certainly looks
like it, if your quarterbacks you like go two and three,
assuming they just like one or two of these quarterbacks,
then if you're sitting there at four and you don't
like any of the quarterbacks, well he's still got Tyrod Taylor,
and that's not too bad. He's pretty good quarterback. So
I think it just opens up options for them. For sure.
I didn't love this trade. I thought it was a
day in the sixty pick of the draft for a

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bridge quarterback. I didn't love it, But I get it.
And now you know you go into the craft for
at least options. You don't have to take a quarterback one.
You don't have to trade up to who are three
to take your quarterback, if you want to take Barkley,
if now and now all of a sudden, you can
do different things if you want. Hey, Frank, call me
crazy if you want to here. But I sort of

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feel like, what's happening here, the fact that Kirk Cousins
is not signed, the mad dash to scramble before free
agency opens officially, that the Browns potentially are are making
the soil fertile for landing Kirk Cousins. Is that insane
or could you see that happening? I don't think it
will happen, But I love the idea because you're, you know,

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you're drafting a guy you don't know if he's going
to be good, obviously, I mean the especially with the Browns.
You want to know what Kirk Cousins is. Kirk comes
is thirteen thousand yards, maybe one touchdowns, five passer eight
in the last three years. Yeah, he's older than these
draft guys, but five secures an NFL is a is
a lifetime and you can figure out who the Sam

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Darnald of the two thousand two draft is when it
comes around. So if you just say, hey, we're gonna
we're gonna pay Kirk was five million more than anybody
else can and that they can't with the gets, But
then why not. I mean, all of a sudden, if
you're Kirk Cousins too, you're looking and you're saying, well,
they got Barkley with the fourth pick. They're gonna make
a fense, Patrick or whoever you want. They have Josh Gordon,

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they have Jarvis Landry, they have hopefully Joe Thomas back.
This is actually a pretty decent team. And here's the
difference I think with Nobody talks about this, but if
Cousins goes to the Vikings, he's gonna get the biggest
contract out of history. And it's anything but winning a
Super Bowl as a bust for him. He has a
failure if he doesn't win a Super Bowl. If he
takes the Cleveland Browns to nine and seven, they're going

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to build him a statue. What better way and they will.
What better way for Kirk Cousins to tell the world.
I am a franchise quarterback. I'm one of the best
quarterbacks in football. I'm going to go to the Browns
and turn them around. So I love the idea, but
I haven't seen the food it anywhere. I have not
heard one thing and talking to people and reading anything

(29:57):
that at leastly the only of the Browns are looking
down this asked for whatever reasons, But I love you.
I think it's great. Frank Sab Fox Sports Radio joining us. Frank,
And I'm also really fascinated by the Giants at two.
I'm aware that every piece of buzz we get about
the draft this time of year is a total lie.
So I don't I don't think that they've you know,
the the idea that people are like, oh, they're not

(30:19):
thinking quarterback. I don't buy it at all. I think
the Giants end up with the number two pick, you know,
like once every hundred years, and whether they're whether they're
bullish on Eli Manning this year or not, doesn't matter.
They're not going to have another chance like this. To me,
to be crazy to pass on Josh Rosen, What what
do you think they do? I absolutely percent agree with

(30:40):
what she said, and that the Giants, that the Giants
are the Browns. They're not drafting second every year. You
you got your one shot. Let you just hate all
four of these quarterbacks. If you like one of them,
take him, because we I don't know why, but we
kind of forgot because Gettleman and Shermer went up there said, yeah,
we're like Eli, we could have forgot. Elis look terrible
two years. He could rebound. I like you life well enough,

(31:04):
but he's an old quarterback who look terrible for two years.
If you pass on the quarterback, now, what what are
you doing? What? You're not probably going to be in
the top five. Again. I don't think the Hives are
that bad of a football team. And getting a quarterback
in an I felt hard. Here's your opportunity. You have
a shot if you like one of these guys, and
even two. If the Browns go to the quarterback one,

(31:26):
you get your quarterback in the future. And it look
if you like place three more years, great, whatever, that's
fine you you you still win there. So I'm totally
with this. I think that Drive have to take a quarterback.
I don't think they can. They can even consider anything
else unless they truly dislike every single quarterback's gonna be
available to them. But I find that hard to believe.
Un selecting a quarterback at two overall, I mean, could

(31:47):
this be a situation in New York similar to breeze
uh handing the reins over to Rivers. Could it be
farm handing the reins over to Rogers. Do you think
Manning will help groom the next as co heasibly as
these other two did during their last time well, I
should say not there last time in the NFL, but
their last time with their first and only team to

(32:09):
that point in the NFL. Yeah, I think so maybe.
I mean, Eli seems like a pretty good team made.
Like that's not Eli's job. I mean, he's not a
quarterbacks coach. He's he's there to, you know, learn the
game plans and run an offense. And but but just
having a quarterback in place that allows you to sit
a guy for a year, Let's say, let's say, let
me get a perfect fit. If you want to sit

(32:30):
a guy for a year, you just think, hey, this
guy has all the potential in the world, he just
needs development. Just sitting a year and learning under Sherman
and learning under Eli Manning how to be a professional,
I think it is really really worth while. I it
doesn't happen a lot anymore, but it's a great situation.
If you're the Giants, you say, well, you know, hey,
this quarterback should be really good. Donald Maybe he's gonna

(32:52):
be really good, but he needs a year to figure
out how to to play the game a little more
than that, a ton of experience. Perfect situation because you
don't have to throw him in the dance circus away
where everything he's gonna do is gonna be under the
piper scope. Frank, great stuff. Great to have. You really
appreciate it. Absolutely appreciate Okay, Frank Schwab at Yahoo Schwab

(33:13):
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(33:34):
car insurance. That's rich. I'm marked. Lee's here, Alex is
here at Gascon's here. We're doing what we're doing. Tiger
Woods about play some golf. We're all geeked up about it.
Selection Sunday. That's fun. Um Odell Beckham. That's the kind
of fun I'm not really into. And when I say that,

(33:56):
I'm not talking about the potential of what was sitting
next to him on a table. I'm talking what are
you talking about? Pizza. That is the exact kind of
fun of it too. Well, the fact that he didn't
touch it shows great restraint. I mean, to have a
full pizza. I'm signing him to a long term deal
right now. I'm like, whoa dude, that was pepperoni. It

(34:18):
was hot, it was delivered, and it just sat there.
Um that was that was impressive restraint. You're right, and
I know we're gonna get into some of the other
things going on in that video, but can we just
first talk about the where he plays in New York?
Like that was dial a slice, corporate hot box pizza
delivered in thirty minutes or less. Have some self respect, Odell?

(34:41):
Why New York is the best place in the United States,
potentially the world to get pizza and you're calling it
in from a hotel suite, you know, somebody shows up
in a visor and hands it out of you know there,
keep fresh bag, like you know, go get a slice,
like a real slice. I'm I'm down understand right now.
I love it. It was that was a slow burn

(35:02):
having the pizza delivered, sticking on the bed. Have uh,
you know, somebody beautiful right next to you and then
take your time, take your time with it sounds like
a cool night, just like got a real pizza, like
a real pizza. Here's what I Here's what I mean though,
by the type of fun I don't like to have.
I don't even understand this video. I don't get it.

(35:26):
Where did it come from? Who took it? Who posted it?
What platform? Like the story comes out it was posted
to social media? What does that mean? What social media platform? Okay,
was it snapchat? We're guessing, But was it who posted it?
Did he? Because if he posted it, then uh, that
actually changes the story quite a bit. If he didn't

(35:47):
post it, who was it? Was it Nick Young? I
don't like who? Where did that? How? Like the sentence,
the sentence that he is supposedly saying he doesn't finish.
We all like the of stories, assuming he's talking about
setting this girl up with one of his friends or whatever.
But it's a sentence fragment that ends right in the
middle of it, and then somebody of core okay, okay,

(36:12):
we got New York post is okay? These the raven
haired mystery woman, seen a huddling in the sack with
Odell Beckham Jr. Appears to be aspiring French Instagram model
who exclusively dished to the post about allegedly scoring with
the Giants receiver. I don't think anyway, Yeah, yeah, well,

(36:35):
I mean when there's pizza in bed anywhere, azz odell
and a female in bed they weren't playing monopoly, but
go ahead. I do not remember all of the evening,
only that we were met in a bar. We then
found ourselves in a hotel. We had passed the night together.
Laura Quennica wrote in native French during a private messaging

(36:55):
scenes on Instagram. He left in the morning to take
his planes for Madrid. Uh, that doesn't even make any
sense to say, is the video? She's French? Who knows
that this is loosely translated. She's beautiful. I hope they
had a phenomenal evening together hashtag who cares? Like so

(37:16):
the idea that this is what we do now O'Dell
Beckham had a pizza and a woman in bed, which
is like the biggest piece of not news I've ever
heard in my life. Yeah, it sounds like a Tuesday night,
followed by oh he's smoking something okay, also not illegal
unless you know what it is, which you don't. And

(37:40):
now let's use our technology, like we're in c s I,
New York and use forensics to zoom in on a
potentially white powdery substance that sort of kind of appears
like it might be in lines that's kind of somewhere
near them. His French model was holding a credit card.

(38:01):
I'm assuming not to pay for the pizza. Like, okay, look,
I don't showed up. If you showed up in the
d a's office with this, the d A would be like,
I have a job and you're wasting my time. Okay,
go away. There is evidence of nothing. I understand. I
understand that legally, he is not guilty of anything. This

(38:24):
is a seven second snapchat video that we found. Uh
is where it came from? We don't know. Um we're
not sure if she was holding and tiger as tin
man and a stripe down the middle of the fairway.
It looks like it's just a long iron folks, he
did he's on the short grass on one. Okay, sorry
you were saying, yeah, so this this video though, what

(38:48):
what I'm gonna go see? Si Las Vegas. I'm gonna
say those were drugs. There's nothing hold on. You have
to do it in a half body turn you have
to do it with a better pause and draw it out.
You have to say those body turn, we're drugs. It's

(39:17):
gotta be a line, though, It's gotta be a line.
Odell Beckham Jr. Laid up in a hotel room with
a French Instagram model, But little did he know nobody
out pizzas the hut. Here's the thing. As soon as

(39:40):
I saw this video, I went to NFL dot com
and checked out jersey sales. Odell Beckham Junior didn't play
a snap of football last season. He has the eleventh
ranked jersey sale after the conclusion of the regular season.
Who buys jerseys? Parents for their children? Who you a
lot of year olds? I mean every kid is trying

(40:02):
to odell their friends in the backyard during Thanksgiving pickup
games like this guy is a star and the and
the demographic he's a star too are the most impressionable demographic.
But the country at eleven year old is gonna know
anything about that without all of the thirty five year
olds with the cameras that they're zooming in and going, oh,

(40:23):
what is that? I don't know. It might be something
off the crust of the pizza, or it might be
it might be a felony. I don't know which that, Like,
the eleven year old doesn't know if we just leave
this stupid stuff alone, well well, I mean maybe that
should be the advice we've passed along. Totell you gotta
leave the stupid stuff alone of pizza. What does Papa

(40:46):
John's have to say about this? By the way, God,
that relationship is over as well. All right, we got
some lonzo stuff to get into. Next, Tiger is playing golf.
He has a red shirt on and he's sitting good shots.
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(41:07):
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(41:31):
will be Oh my god, no, right, did you? That's
the first time ever heard? Right? Always beats a five?
Ridge forget cheek up on um. Like I love when
somebody comes to me, They're like, hey, did you, uh
you see that that front court out of Rhode Island.
I'm like, no, I didn't. Uh No, I have no

(41:54):
idea what you're talking about. I know that. I know
I'm gonna be in a cubicle somewhere within the next
seventy two hours and someone's gonna be like, Dude, I'm
telling you St Joe's to the Swede sixty and I'm
gonna be like, you don't even know their mascot. You
don't even know where. I don't even know if they're
in the tournament this year. It doesn't matter. But anyway.

(42:16):
Eric pink is lead Laker writer, Bleacher Report, NBA capologist
Basketball Insiders, is going to join us in about fifteen minutes,
and there's lots to talk about. Lebron is in town?
Is that game? Is that today? Is that tonight? Kers
are hosting the Calves. Which jersey will Lebron come out wearing?

(42:38):
That's what I want to know. That's what I want
to know. I just put on a Laker jersey and
come out now? Why wait? But um, we'll get into that.
I want to get into this though with you. I
did this yesterday with Robo to do it with you.
Let's let's see. Let's see if you can catch where
I'm going. Right here we go. I just saw that

(42:59):
thing between the Lakers and the Denver Nuggets the other night.
We're all ticked off. It's some guy named Jamal Murray
who plays for the Nuggets. I did see this. So Alonzo,
who never says anything about anything, actually spoke and said
something about something. This was unique because of that, because
Alonzo's kept a lid on a lot of things. Let
LaVar do all the talking. I'm gonna do the playing,

(43:20):
all right, So let me read you Alonzo balls quote. However,
I'm going to take out the names, Okay, to protect
the innocent. I'm gonna take out where he would put
Jamal Murray, the Nuggets player that he was talking about.
And I'm just gonna go blank and then ask you
a question. Okay, all right, here it is. Quote. I

(43:41):
don't know. I don't really worry about Blank. Like I said,
ain't nobody worried about him? Now? He dribbled around Alonzo
the last time they played quote, we remembered it. It's
a punk move. Like I said, we're not going to
get into it. Blank will do whatever he's going to do.

(44:02):
Like I said, he going to do the circus stuff.
I'm not feeding into it. Now. When I take his
name out of it, let me ask you, is he
talking about Jamal Murray or is he talking about his dad?
Stay in your lane? Yeah, Look, it's it's interesting when
you when you remove the context of even the player,

(44:26):
it comes off so innocuous. And my initial reaction to
this is it's kids table stuff. It's kids table stuff.
Like if this escal the first time the kids act
up at the kids table, you go, hey, knock it off.
And then you're like, so anyways, Bob and accounting, I
mean it. Look, he he loves to ras everybody over
on our side of the room, so we give him

(44:47):
a little rope. Like the second time the kids act up,
then it's like, okay, seriously, someone's getting pun like. So
that's when when it escalates, that's when the threats start.
That's when Luke Walton needs to step in. That's where
you need to sort of figure out where this is heading.
But it's interesting when you when you subtract the fact

(45:09):
that it's Alonzo, it's easier to do that you add
the fact that it's Alonso. Well, you have the context
of his dad, You have the context of Alonso not
being a trash talker in general. Add in the fact
that his dad's so outlandish and he hasn't castigated him,
not one time for treating even his teammates like garbage

(45:30):
at U c l A with the Lakers, and he's
gonna attack this guy for something he did to him
personally in passing one time. I mean, it just gives
you an idea of vista into a Lonzo Ball's mentality.
He's he's always going to defend his dad, He's always
gonna stick up for the family, and the little thing

(45:52):
seem like are the things that can get under his skin. Well,
that's that's kind of what I'm getting at, Like this
is kids table. In fact, I think the whole like
trash talk and professional sports thing, Oh that's bulletin board material.
Who cares? This stuff is so incredibly uh competitive, there's
so much money involved. Uh you don't need somebody to

(46:15):
say something about you in order to be motivated to
go out and play. Okay, these guys already show up
with just just just to let you know, Like I mean,
I will say this, it is very difficult to get
yourself hyped up and like ready to do it every
single day. So to a certain degree, this stuff matters
because you make it matter. Um Oddly, though, he doesn't

(46:36):
make what what really matters this is the fact that
his father could sabotage and submarine his entire career matter
the most Tiger birdie on one he's tied for the
lead along with Connors and brand sne just wanted to
throw that in there. Yeah, Tiger Woods is leading a
golf tournament on Sunday. But anyway, I guess that what

(47:00):
I'm saying here is that if I'm Alonzo Ball, how
do you get away with saying this about anyone? He's
gonna do the circus stuff. I'm not feeding into it.
Wait a minute, that that's your whole existence, which I
hate to say, because, by the way, you're a really
good basketball player. And wouldn't it be great right now

(47:22):
if all of us could just process that in a
clean manner. What if we were simply looking at a
Lonzo Ball through the lens of number two pick. I
wonder if he's any good the Lakers about a lot
of them in the last few years, d' angelo Russell
number two pick, brandon Ingram number two pick, Alonzo Ball
number two pick. We look at brandon Ingram and we
simply go, is he good? Is he worth the number

(47:44):
two pick? Wouldn't it be fun if we were doing
that with a lonzo. No, it's like the forty thing
we get to with what we're thinking about a lonzo.
Why because of everything that's going on that all of
us know, Okay, a brother that's stealing in China, another
brother who's been yank out of high school, a dad
who was criticizing the coach, and teammates from Afar and

(48:05):
from Lithuania. And you won't jump in there, and I've
decided you are not. Uh, he doesn't have the the
the faculties, the capabilities because of the way he was
brought up or who knows what to do this. But
you won't step in and say something, You won't put
a muzzle on him. And now you're mad at Jamal
Murray because of quote unquote circus stuff. This is the

(48:27):
way the world works. I'm sorry, the rules are not
the same for everybody. If I'm a Lonzo ball, your
ability to get mad at someone else for circus stuff
is gone. Well, check it out. What made the Alonzo
ball likable, What made a Lonzo ball palatable? What made
a Lonzo ball potentially attractive for free agents to join

(48:48):
the team. Michael Lebron and Paul George, I mean Magic
Johnson is getting fined for tampering on a near regular
basis now trying to build a team around a point
guard who he just drafted with the second overall pick.
In his opening salvo as president of basketball operations, him
and Rob Polinka in the front office of the Lakers.

(49:08):
Genie Bush, after pushing her brother out, has gone all
in on this restructuring of the Lakers, and what has
made it made him palatable is the fact that he's
been unflappable. It's every single time somebody comes to him
with a LaVar comment, he goes, it's just my dad. Yeah,
I know, he's like a He's like a plain white boards,

(49:30):
robotic like and everybody goes, but look at him, like
that is why you can take a player like Alonzo seriously.
He's unselfish on the court. He cannot be bothered by
the media. His dad's a clown, but he is about
basketball all of a sudden. Jamal Murray like, who got
under his skin? Like? Are we serious that Jamal Murray
is the first? Is the first one who got through

(49:53):
the wall? I also wonder about this in professional sports.
I guess you can add in college sports as well.
I was wondering where the line is when guys get upset? Right, Oh,
that's not classy? Well, this is the NBA. This is
the NBA where Steph Curry shimmy's and James Harden stirs
the soup and Russell Westbrook screams. So showmanship is part

(50:16):
of the deal. I am a big fan uh sportsmanship
and classy behavior? Am I somebody? Who if I won
a basketball game and I had the ball with five
seconds left in the fifteen point game, would I go
find some other guy and dribble a circle around him? No?
That that that does? It seem a little over the top,
I guess so, But where's the line. It always is

(50:38):
funny to me that here we are in the NBA
where everybody's a show. They're throwing chalk into the air,
they're stirring drinks there shimming James Harden, for goodness sakes,
west Johnson last week tripped and fell over and the
guy turned him into an internet sensation and and now
we're asking for everyone to be like buttoned up, classy
San Antonio Spurs. That's not where we are, man, That's

(50:59):
not the club that we're dancing in right now. I mean, like, how, like,
how on earth does your father telling telling the media
that it was Alonzo and a bunch of white guys,
Like that's how that's how you said, like like you
know how like like that doesn't bother you. But this
guy dribbling a circle around you for a little, like

(51:20):
for a half a second to finish out a game
earlier in this season, Like that's gonna be the thing
to me. It's it's going it's going to break this visade,
this idea that a Lonzo is impenetrable, and it's starting
to crack at the wrong time, because this is the
most important moments of trying to lure some real talent

(51:41):
to come into l A and to change the face
of this team for a long time. Mark whether rich Ornburger,
Fox Sports Radio, Eric Pinkas all over the Lakers joins
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(52:02):
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down what we call in the businesses knocker. He's got
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(52:24):
you call that? That's not tallerant of the cup he
pured it. Eric Pinkis s Bleecher Report, Lakers, NBA Topologist,
Basketball Insiders, NBA TV is all over the place, and
he's right here right now as well. Eric, thanks so

(52:45):
much for coming on. Uh. We know that Paul George
gets chance from the l a crowd All Star Game
and a recent visit by the Thunder. What do you
expect the crowd to be doing and yelling tonight with
Lebron James the building. I'm sure the time guy will
have his Lebron tying and I don't I know. It's

(53:07):
a funny thing because you know, you're supposed to, you know,
root against the players coming in, and you're supposed to
root for the Lakers if you're a fan. But as
far as I think the Lakers are, the fans are concerned,
is that not only will they have Paul George, they'll
have Lebron and anybody else they want. Because it's really
easy to do that when you're a fan. It's a
lot harder when you're the actual Lakers. But you know
they have a shot at making this happen. But it's

(53:28):
really up to Lebron, you know, Eric, I remember the
first time Lebron and Lonzo were on the court together.
Lebron passed along some words of encouragement to Alonzo, obviously
understanding at such a young age what the spotlight can
do to you and just wanted to share that with him.
Any anymore to read into that now is the season's
gone on and he's openly being recruited not only by

(53:49):
the Lakers but obviously the fans of the Lakers. Uh.
Do we think that there's been a relationship established away
from the court. Well, it's funny because all the way
back in Summer League, Lebron happened to randomly attend and
not so randomly, one game and it was a big
deal and it was watching a Lonzo place. So, uh,

(54:10):
there's something about a Lonzo that has peaked Lebron's interest.
Does that mean he's gonna come. I mean no, it
doesn't mean he's gonna come, but it's notable. And the
move the Lakers made over the summer to sign KCP
Contavious call World Pope. Right, they wave David Nhuaba, who's
a very productive young player, just so they could pay
an extra like five hundred thousand dollars or so to

(54:32):
Contavious called World Pope, who happens to have as an agent,
Rich Paul. Now, Rich Paul will come to some games.
It's a very powerful agent. And Lebron views him like
as a brother. Like there they these guys are very
tight their family. And so you see Jeanie sometimes court
sides sitting with Rich Paul, and that that relationship is
being built up. So again, does that mean Lebron's coming. No,

(54:54):
it doesn't mean Lebron is coming, But it means the
Lakers are laying the groundwork, opening the channels, doing what
they feel is the necessary thing to do. So, you know,
my friend Jacob, who I went to high school with,
is putting up billboards, you know the you know, I
like his billboards. But the Lakers are I don't think
that's gonna be Why why Uh, Lebron comes, but the

(55:15):
Lakers doing the lakework now and his interest in first
of all Los Angeles and the movie business. And there's
a lot of reasons why. The biggest issue is is
are are the Lakers going to be good enough to
beat the Warriors if he comes west? And that's a
whole another thing. Yeah, Eric, that's the next question, I
guess is the basketball stuff. And I wonder what your
opinion is based on, at least the things we we

(55:38):
think we know about the team's Lebron might look at
from Cleveland to Philly to Houston to the Lakers. And
let's imagine that Paul George would come with him to
the Lakers. What do you think is the best basketball
fit because I'm starting to think that it's the Lakers. Well,
Philadelphia is interesting, uh because you've got Joel Embiid who's

(56:01):
an amazing All Star. And I don't think the health issue.
I I think you have to put that aside. Uh.
Ben Simmons is a really special player. I would say
his game is maybe a little too similar to Lebron's
uh as far as style of play, especially Lebron when
he came in. UH. And and so the fact that
there's no shooting out of that spot makes it a
little challenging. But that doesn't mean that Lebron wouldn't consider that. Now,

(56:24):
does he want to go to Philadelphia where it's cold?
And is that is that where he wants to be?
You can argue, you know, to the initials and that
I posed the Warriors are in the West, and of
the teams you've teamed outside of the Calves, the Phillies,
the Phillies, the Sixes are in the East, and so
there's that advantage where he has a better shot of
getting to the finals. He's got a relationship issue with

(56:45):
the Calves right now. I don't think there's a lot
of trust, and I think he's got issues with ownership.
And maybe he stays, but we're going on the supposition
he leaves. If he leaves, where does he go? And
if you look west, the team that's ready to win
right now is the Rockets, and and the way to
get him to the Rockets is very challenging because they
have they have to pay Chris Paul, they have to

(57:05):
pay Clint Capella, they have to pay if they want
to Trevor Reason. You start going through the list, there's
a lot of people they have to pay. How do
you pay those people, those players and pay Lebron what
he needs? And the answers you don't. The math doesn't
really work, But that doesn't mean that they can't make
it work. And one way they can make it work
is if Lebron opts into his contract like Chris Paul

(57:26):
did with the Clippers and arrange a trade. The Cavaliers
basically said, Okay, Cavaliers, I'm going to the Lakers. I'm
going to the Sixers unless you trade me over to
the Rockets. And can they make something work? And honestly,
Darryl Moray, one of the is one of the most
clever general managers. These are the Rockets. I think if
there's anybody who could fashion something crazy that makes it work,

(57:48):
it would be Darryl. More So, I think the Rockets
are a great fit. But it's a challenge. And then
you know where they say like the easiest path is
the most likely, and the Lakers have that easiest path thing.
It's simple. They don't really have to do anything. Stretch
out little dang, find Paul, George and Lebron and you're there.
Eric Pinker, excuse me, go ahead, and you can they

(58:08):
make that happen. That's that's that's up to Lebron. Now.
Eric pink is Lakers writer, joining us on Fox Sports Radio.
You know, this idea that Lebron's easiest path is with
the Lakers, I disagree with in from this angle that
I mean, realistically, he's going to win a championship. That's
the only reason he leaves Cleveland because anything less would

(58:30):
be both embarrassing and really a big waste of his
time at this point in his career. Uh, what what
about him staying in Cleveland? How likely of his scenario
is it that he just stays home and tries to
attract somebody else to join his forces from from the calves. Well,
and that's the thing is if he feels that he
can't win in Cleveland because he doesn't have faith in

(58:52):
their front office, he doesn't have faith in their ownership.
And yeah, they made some really bold moves, but let's
say they flame out in the playoffs and they don't
it to the finals. That's he just might not have
confidence and might not believe that his championship path is there,
in which case he has to leave. And then you
when you say which team has the best chance of
getting a championship first, it's probably the Rockets, right, but

(59:15):
again that's very difficult. But he might want to say,
I mean, there's some loyalty there to to the community.
I don't think to the owner, and maybe you know,
I don't. Maybe we're we're all writing off Cleveland because
of their spotty play now before the trade deadline. I
would say, yeah, I just don't see him staying. After
the trade deadline. They made some really interesting moves. Obviously,

(59:35):
Laker fans know they have Jordan Clarkson now and Larry Nance.
Larry Nance in particular, I think has played really well
for them, and that I don't I don't know if
that's enough to to win a title or whatever. But
maybe he has more faith, Maybe he maybe they have
some plans that they let that they somehow can improve
this summer to give Lebron a real reason to stay.

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So I would definitely you can't just say, oh, they're leaving.
He's even Cleveland. I don't think that's something you could
just assume. Eric Pink is joining US Fox Sports Radio. Eric,
because I put the topologists hat on here for a second.
You mentioned the Lakers simply just need to convince him
and Paul George to come and and that's it. I
know a lot of people and I've heard you say this,
there is a challenge in keeping Julius Randall in that

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in that scenario, isn't isn't there or could they potentially
have a Lonzo and Ingram and Kuzma and Heart and
Randall and George and Lebron? Is that possible? I mean, well,
first of all, anything is possible of players are willing
to sacrifice, and we saw a little of that over
in in Miami when Lebron and Bosh and Wade got together.

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Each sacrifice maybe a million or so in the first year.
But if you compound that over four or five years,
they let go of a decent amount of money. Now,
I mean, none of those guys are pleading poverty. So
but it's it's really it's really up to the players
at a certain point. Now the challenges is little thing. Right,
So he makes about eighteen ish million this next season,

(01:01:02):
and that's that's in the way of keeping Randall. So
you can do all those things and keep Randall if
you can trade Louill Bang without bringing any real salary back,
and that that's a possibility. I don't think it's not
I I mean, I don't think it's something you know,
you say, oh, it's a terrible contract. If the Lakers
are really willing to give up draft pick or picks, uh,

(01:01:23):
throwin about five million dollars in cash, that means a
lot to a lot of teams. If you if you
get five million in cash, that's that's a big deal.
I mean, it's a big deal for you and me, right,
but for a team still they they would. I think
the Lakers have an opportunity to find a trade that
works that clears lou Will Bang, but it's costly. So
the question doesn't become are you trading away these picks

(01:01:45):
to get Lebron and to get Paul George? The question
is are you trading away whatever these assets are to
keep Julius Randall? How much is Julius Randall worth? Is
you gonna be better than the players that you're gonna
draft down the road with these picks that you don't
trade if you don't trade it? So that that's really
the question, and so it's all doable. I think it's
reasonable that um even Brook Lopez could stick around because

(01:02:06):
of some of the rules of that he could get
paid a small amount this year and a much bigger
amount the following year based on some of the corks
of the of the salary caps. So if if if
you're Brook Lopez and you see they get Lebron and
Paul George and you can take like four or five
million to stay for one year and then get maybe
ten or eleven or twelve fifteen the next year, maybe
that's worth doing. Uh. We talked about Kentavious Cold Pope

(01:02:29):
having the same relationship or the same agent as Lebron.
Maybe there's some give and take that Lebron sacrifices five
million here so that k CP can get another certain
amount there. So there's a whole lot of possibilities, and
it all hinges, of course, on those yeses. And when
it comes to those yes is the last thing I'll

(01:02:49):
comment on Lebron and Paul George saying yes. If they're
in a room with with Magic Johnson, it's gonna be
really hard to say no. He's he's an icon, and
I've seen the way that players interact with him. He
means a lot, I think, especially someone like Lebron James Yeah, well,
and Paul George had what he had the magic poster
on his wall growing up, right, So yeah, hey, Eric,
thank you so much, great stuff. All right, Eric Pink

(01:03:12):
has Bleacher Report, Basketball Insiders, NBA TV, Mark Willard Rich Hornberger.
Wait do you hear something that Tiger did not today
but yesterday. That's coming up next in one minute, But
right now comes Mr David Gascon. That sounds uh yeah, okay,
whoa where is he on the leaderboard? Here he is?

(01:03:37):
Which one of you guys would be the getting the
whole guy? Oh no, that's Rich. That's hammered, drunk American
flag pants. Just shirt around my head because look, I mean,
I don't want to go to Sunburns data. No, I don't.
I I am very buttoned up on the golf course
and and usually I'll have a hot dog in my mouth.

(01:04:00):
I can't yell. I can't. Yeah, I can't yell. Yell
get in the hole when you haven't having a dog
at the turn see now. Of course, of course we
had to go as immature as possible that catch up
for Mustard. You gotta know. Okay, hang on, because it's
gonna derail David's update. Enhance it. Yeah, Okay, I want

(01:04:24):
everybody to wrap their heads around this. A little hot
dogs and hand seeing. Okay, the answer, the answer is
catch up. I'm going home, and yes you can, Yes
you can have red wine with pasta. Man, you really
said that, sacrilegious Mark Feli. Tiger Woods lining up a

(01:04:48):
birded butt. Move on. I'm sorry. This has a good
line working left to right. So it's cup raises the
putter briefly. Then that ball took a quick turn to
the right at the end, but that is a foot away.
Tiger Woods will tap in for birdie lead. It's for
the lead, it's for it didn't go in. He's gotta

(01:05:08):
tap in part this is such a dish and disingenuous
clap for me, be very respectful, restraint, well very loudly.
I'm on line googling drunk right now. Um college cost

(01:05:30):
basketball scene. Today we'll get five games. That means five
teams will be heading to the Big Dance, and that
will include one team from the IVY League. Three that's
so quick for the right quarters off the time the
Quakers store before and here how the students. After a
decade long wait, the Penn Quakers are kings of the

(01:05:53):
IVY League again. And they are going back to the
n c a A Tournament sixty to sixty five. The
pet Quickers are the Ivy League champion. Scott Graham on
the call, I love it, I know, I love it
when smart people storm the court. That's my favorite thing
because it's it's seen as like, oh my gosh, look
at all the drunk students. These are the future CEOs

(01:06:16):
of America and they are screaming on a basketball is crazy.
How they do it all single file and they just
kind of like it almost looks like they're running around
the may pole and then they set. They just get
off into very orderly fashion. Paul, you first pop the
collars and they go out with their shardonnaise and their
red wine with pasta. No problem with that, halftag, No rules,

(01:06:43):
don't tell me what to do? You do you all
do me? Man sec play Kentucky leads Tennessee by four
fifty eight Georgia State and ut Arlington just underway teen
Georgia State and that thing. And then later on too
you get Cincinnati and number twenty one Houston. One note
in the NASH you know Footballleague Giants have made it official.
They have terminated the contract of Dominic Rodgers, Crow Marty.

(01:07:05):
He is owed or he was owed six and a
half million dollars for this season. Alright, great stuff, Dave,
thank you so much. What does it mean when Geico
says just fifteen minutes could save you fifteen cent a
more on car insurance? Probably should have gone to guy
dot com fifteen minutes ago. We need to have a
Kirk Cousins argument, and we will do that in a
few minutes because you're crazy. But like a Fox, I

(01:07:28):
want to pass this. You know, I don't like stats,
but this isn't like a sports stat. This is a
This is a Americana television stat. Okay, listen to this
valve Spar Championship Like who cares right vowel Spar Championship? Well,
I mean anybody who's ever picked paint before? I like

(01:07:50):
agreeable Graham myself. Round three coverage on NBC yesterday earned
a three point two six overnight rating. That is an
increase from last year of one hundred eighty one percent,
highest rated PG eight two Round three on any broadcast

(01:08:13):
network in twelve years. Okay, I did not have children
the last time a Round three on the PGA Tour
rated as highly as yesterday did highest rated telecast in
Valve Spar Championship history. Round four ongoing right now, and again,

(01:08:37):
I'm sorry, tell me that we're golf nerds. I started
to do this yesterday and Rob Parker's like, wake me
when he wins. No, no, this is a big richest
coming in. He remembers. Everybody remembers the Valve Spar from
last year, win Snedeckers. Somebody heard he was in a um,

(01:09:00):
there was a Garcia. Look, nobody remembers. That's the point.
Everybody understands what's happening today because Tiger is there. The
camera hasn't been off of Tiger Woods, like the camera
Panta Tiger Woods. Just now somebody like they cut off.
Somebody's up like par finished on the hole. Well, I mean,
you gotta know the direction the wind's blown to see.

(01:09:24):
I think this is a par three. So this is
very dramatic with regard to win. Well, I mean with
any club really, I mean, especially when you're talking about
talent as transcendent as Tiger Woods. Oh and a shot
and a beauty that one called a beauty. I don't know.
He's he'll make par. He's on the fringe on a
par three. Um. But anyway, so no golf announcing for you.

(01:09:45):
But you were saying. The point I'm trying to make
is it's it's not about golf. People like, get that
through your heads. When you're watching Tiger Woods, you're not
watching golf. You're watching humanity. You're watching something that truly,
truly like you're you're watching a comeback story. This is
what people write about. This is what people love for

(01:10:08):
back surgeries. Since his last win, a wildly public affair
and divorced with his wife, a wreckage left by a
domineering parent who passed away. Uh. During all of this,
this guy has now resumed a championship level and is

(01:10:28):
chasing his first win in lord knows how long. This
is humanity. This is what people like truly dream about
when we're when they're dialing up whatever whatever game. A comeback,
a come from behind victory, an underdog, a Philadelphia's Eagles
miracle season with Nick Foles leading the way, beating the

(01:10:49):
unbeatable Patriots. Tiger Woods represents, uh, just just the story
everybody wants to tune in for every time they turn
on sports. That's why a val spars up because it's
not about golf, it's about Tiger. That's right well, And
and we always talk about stars. Everybody wants stars, and

(01:11:09):
when it comes to sports watching, we want to villain
any hero, and Tiger is both to a lot of
people and and and so that's fascinating. If you're not
a star, though, there is still a way, I think,
to gather ratings and be a great story if you're
not a star. The Olympics is filled with nothing but
non stars. You just mentioned Nick Foles. If you're going

(01:11:31):
to be a ratings grabber and you're not a star,
you also have to It's almost like you have to
be nobody. Like Nick Foles is just completely out of
the clear blue and he's going up against the greatest
quarterback of all time. That's a story people can sink
their teeth into it. But outside of that, like percent
of the golfers on the p g A Tour, they

(01:11:53):
represent the middle. They're not a star and they're not
just you know somebody like Tin Cup's character having Costner.
They're just like, oh my name is brand Snedecker and
I'm really good at golf. And it just doesn't do
it like Colin Cowherd tweeted three hours ago, Listen to this. This,
This encompasses the whole deal. Quote. Tiger Wood's greatest power

(01:12:13):
is not off the team. It's best defined by this sentence.
I can't wait to watch the final round of the
valve Spar Championship today. Yeah, I mean, really, that's what
I mean? Who has ever said that? I just tweeted. Look,
everybody remembers the Valvespar Championship last year, right, Well, no,
me neither. The point is the Tiger effect is real,

(01:12:35):
and that's what we're all watching. We're watching for Tiger Um, who,
by the way, I don't know. I mean, it just
feels like the drought is over. You could argue he's
out of the woods. I think we need periscope because

(01:12:56):
this is really working. But it will work even better
if we could do the video, put the sunglasses on,
do the side turn, have our coat kind of flow
in the wind as we turn, and then go to commercial.
That I think is uh, that's the plan for the
rest of the show. Let's have a Kirk Cousins argument

(01:13:20):
coming up next. The Browns might be saying he's not
your cousin, Let's make him a brother. Fox Radio. I

(01:13:42):
hate that song, alright, Tiger mate, Bogey is one off
the lead. That's that's stunk that you just go home,
Just go home. It's early and there's a quick way
you could save some He switched a gey. Go to
Geico dot com fifteen minutes, you could say, or more

(01:14:06):
on car insurance. We've got the selection show coming up
in a little bit over three hours. Um, we need
to talk about show, hey o Tani, Oh yeah, we
need to actually talk about um. And it's not a

(01:14:26):
baseball conversation as much as it is a conversation about
power and business. UM, with what's going on. You know,
some big names, some Boris clients. It's interesting Boris at
all these clients, and everybody went, Okay, he did it again.
He slow played him, He waited till the end, and

(01:14:47):
Eric Hosmer got the big boom. And then who is
the other one that got a nice deal? The other
Boris client? J D Martinez. Okay, see Boris wins again,
and they forget he's also Jake arietta Is agent. How's
no deal unsigned? And he's Mike Mustakas's agent. One year

(01:15:08):
six point five, when he was offered a seventeen and
a half million dollar qualifying offer just a few months
ago and turned it down. How do you think you're
spinning that if you're Boris? Like, listen, the slow play continues.
By the way, if you're Boris, do you take ten
of the six and a half million dollars when you
advised him to not take me seventeen and a half

(01:15:29):
million dollars. If I were Boris, I'd be like, keep it,
big man, just cost you a eleven mill So we're
gonna go I'm gonna go ahead, and even we're gonna
call this square this time around, all right, So we're
on that at the top of the hour. But um,
you said something to Schwab earlier cousins to the Browns,
and he was like delicious. He ate it up like

(01:15:52):
a bowl ice cream. And uh, I'm thinking, so that's crazy.
There's no way in hell I would do at with
all of the cap space that I have if I'm
the Cleveland Browns. For two reasons. One, I'm not gonna
trade a third rounder for Tyrod Taylor and then not
play him. I'm not gonna like Tyrod Taylor is a

(01:16:14):
solid NFL quarterbacks, not great, Um, but I'll tell you what,
I don't really remember the last time you ever had
a wide receiver. I would like to see him with
Josh Gordon and Jarvis Landry and a future Hall of
Fame left tackle if Thomas comes back, I'd like to
see that. And secondarily, I am a believer in the
quarterback class. I know everybody this time of year, it

(01:16:37):
starts to get negative because the whole idea of the
combine in the draft is, let's poke holes. Josh Allen's
got no accuracy, Donald's a fumbler, Baker Mayfields a whack
of doodle. We can go on and on. The truth
of the matter is is I think you've got some
real talent there. And if I'm Cleveland, I'm not gonna
pass on that for two reasons. One and I think

(01:17:00):
the ceiling for Sam Donald for instances higher than Kirk Cousins.
And I think the contract is half as much. Give
me Taylor and Donald. I don't want any part of
Kirk Cousins if I'm Cleveland. Look quality over quantity. What
you get when you draft a guy is perspective greatness.
You don't know, You've never seen it at this level.
You have no idea. The best guessers get it wrong

(01:17:22):
most of the time. Over the past decade, of the
top ten picks who were quarterbacks, only thirty eight percent
of them have been And I did the math. I
I looked this up recently. Only thirty eight percent of
them have panned out and been franchise changing quarterbacks. Right,
there's two ways to look at it. Like everything else, though,
much more than fifty percent of the league is quarterbacked

(01:17:44):
by a first round draft pack. So but yeah, and
over the span of time, like obviously you only take
the last decade earlier than that, A lot of the
first rounders in the top ten, top top ten talents
have led their teams for I mean, look at look
at Eli Manning, Ben Roethlisberger. I mean, these guys go
beyond that's go Philip rivers Um. And they all were

(01:18:06):
franchise changers at a time or still are. Here's the
argument though, with Kirk Cousins, maybe you could get him
for three years, Maybe he'll be expensive, but he's a
proven commodity. It's quality over quantity. Yes, Sam Donald may
work out, and you may lock him into a rookie
deal for four years before you have to extend him.

(01:18:27):
I mean maybe if he has a development year or
two behind Tyrod Taylor or you know, it's kind of
dicey at first, but it's looking good and he plays
out that entire five year contract, you get some solid
football being played, and you have your guy, and you're
setting yourself up for a long future. But what do
we know about the NFL. How often do we see

(01:18:48):
a head coach or general managers stick with the team
for very long? We don't. In fact, Sashi Brown with
the Browns. He's the reason for all this this cap room.
He's the reason for these draft capital, for all these
draft picks. He was the one who was stockpiling for
the future. Yeah, he knew they were gonna stink. But
in a world where it seems like fans in baseball,

(01:19:09):
except the idea of we're gonna tank and them we're
gonna be reborn from the ashes through the draft, we're
gonna get fundamentally better, and we're gonna piece in things
through free agency. This was the technique he was taking.
They won one game over two seasons. He gets the boot.
John Dorsey comes in from Kansas City, who's a proven winner.
He's built winners, in Green Bay and Kansas City, both

(01:19:30):
When Andy rejoined the team back in two eleven, they
took a two and fourteen Chiefs team to an eleven
win team in the span of a year. All of
a sudden, he's got he's got all of this magic
going on. Well, the reason for that is because he
has nothing but time and space to do it. You
add in a guy like Kirk Cousins, Now they go
from potential winner to winners. In my opinion, Yeah, I like,

(01:19:54):
you're gonna laugh at this at first, blush. How much
better than Tyrod Taylor is Kirk Cousins. I'll give you better,
but how much? Look, I mean, are we talking if
Kirk Cousins, if we all agree, he is like somewhere
between eight and thirteen as far if you're gonna rank
all the quarterbacks, Okay, yeah, isn't Taylor right on the

(01:20:15):
back end of that too. I mean, he's not as
as longstanding approven starter as Cousins, and I want to
say as far as completion rate. That's the big difference
is Kirk Cousins is fitting footballs into tight windows. He's
he's stretching the field. He's better, but how much better? Like,
I've already got Taylor and I'm paying him sixteen million

(01:20:38):
this year. Now I'm gonna throw thirty at Cousins and
have them both on the team. I like the idea. Well,
here's the thing. I like the idea of being heavy
at quarterback as far as salary goes for a short
period of time. Look at what the Bears did they
bring in? Uh, I think what the Bears did is
exactly what the Browns are gonna do. Well they met.
Taylor is the Glenn and Darna is the Robinsky. I mean, look,

(01:21:02):
you know what now that I'm looking at completion ratios,
I mean you're not You're not completely out of your
depth with this argument. I mean you're talking about two
guys who, you know, over their careers have been fairly similar.
Kirk Cousins has his. His potential is much higher, his
ceilings much alright. Coming up next, Bill Plashki, who is

(01:21:24):
you know, legendary columnist here in Los Angeles. After seeing
Shoho Tony one time, he wrote a column that was
titled h oh Tawny, and uh, I said, I'll come
on already. Was he on to something that's coming up next?
You know? In radio there is a saying that I've
heard from multiple uh bosses, guys in charge, program directors.

(01:21:50):
Let it bake. Huh, Let it bake? Alright, Okay, you
can't just stick something on the air and expect everybody
to know it, find it and love it in four
more months. It's not the way it works, and it's
true in most businesses. So the first time, I haven't
been doing this very long. Admittedly, yeah, they don't say
that in the NFL. No, No, he sucks. Let it

(01:22:12):
bake NFL not for long, is what you hear. It's boy,
he stinks. Get rid of them. Let somebody who doesn't
look like Thanksgiving dinner on the field. You give up
two socks in the first quarter, you're on the bench.
See you later. But by and large, I am a
fan of the let it bake philosophy, and I do
think there's something to be said for that philosophy when

(01:22:35):
it comes to rookies. Okay. Uh, it's one of the
unfortunate parts of Alonzo ball. Alonzo ball comes in and
he's dealing with so much more than simply let's take
a look at this kids, see if he can play,
Because if you did, you'd want to be seeing that
he can play and to everybody would have been calm
twenty games ago when it was looking like he couldn't,

(01:22:56):
you know, hit a shot from five feet away, like,
let's calm down, let bake a little bit, let's see
what the guy has got and so soho heyo Tony
gets that, and in fact he gets that double because
he's also coming over to a new country, new land,
new scenario, new every new everything. Okay, so heyo Tony
totally gets that. But I think there are two different

(01:23:18):
conversations to have when you're looking at a future star.
This goes for any sport. One side is, oh, he's
just a rookie, he needs to be seasoned. The other
side is, we're seeing things that project as a problem.

(01:23:39):
Go back to Lonzo. What did a lot of us
say even when he was coming out of U C.
L A. I remember this. So the things he doesn't
do well are the things that you can learn and
you can get better at. Shooting is one of them.
By the way, court vision, savvy sense, that's the natural piece.
But hely what they were saying about Kawhi Leonard out

(01:24:02):
of San Diego State, and he became m VP conversation
for two seasons in the in the league so far,
they said that that claw that like, you know, that
shot is so terrible, But he learned how to shoot.
He learned how to be a true one in the NBA.
So if we were looking at Otani and saying, oh, well,

(01:24:22):
it is a little rough around the edges, but he
just got here and those are things he could learn,
I would be like, I couldn't give a rip what
he gives up in a Mexican League game against Tijuana.
I have no I don't care what his stats are
at all. But that's not what we're talking about. We're
looking at scouts coming to a consensus. We're talking eight, nine,

(01:24:44):
ten people who are all saying the exact same thing,
independent of one another, independent of one another, that we're
looking at things that project as a problem. They all
believe he needs a minimum of three four five D
minor league at bats right now, not close to being
a big league hitter. You said, right out of the gate,

(01:25:06):
fastball looks flat. I'm thinking fastball can be a little
flat if you're throwing in a hundred one miles an hour.
He's topping out against Tiajuana, the other day at four,
That tells me you're hurt. PRP injection. And now you're
seven miles an hour missing on your fastball and your

(01:25:26):
third outing, I think you might be hurt. And so
we're looking at things that all project as a problem.
You can't learn how to be unhurt, and you can't
learn how to not have a hole in your swing.
I mean, he's young, but he's not fifteen. Yeah, what
what they're saying is and even at the level he's

(01:25:47):
been playing at, which I mean it hasn't been a
high level of baseball since he's come to the States.
He's going against talent that couldn't sniff a baseball diamond
in the major league leagues, and they're peppering him with
inside fastballs and he just can't even come close to
touching them. And and that look this this long kind

(01:26:10):
of you know, a poorly sculpted swing, I think against
the pitching he saw over in Japan, and maybe the
level of scouting that you get on the international set.
Because remember, like all these teams, yes they have a
lot of money and they can spend it in every
which direction they want. How many of them do you
think are putting their best scouts in Japan. Well that's true,

(01:26:34):
but a lot of these now general managers, these guys,
this is what's crazy about this story. Every team wanted
him and they didn't show up to the show. Hey
party four months ago. Teams have been working on this
and angling towards this for four years. Hiring was being
made in scouting departments solely because guys had good relationships

(01:26:57):
with Since his second year in high school, he's been
scouted by Major League Baseball. No, no, no, no, all
of them. That this is what's wrong with this whole picture.
And I'll explain it the same way I would a
first overall pick, which will see coming this April, going
to a team that's in a desperate situation, who, among
many other things, needs a quarterback. What it is his expectations.

(01:27:20):
He was coming out of Japan deemed the Babe Ruth,
the Babe Ruth of Japan, Like imagine imagine the Casher
You're walking into the room when people are referring to
as the most memorable sports figure in the country's history, uh,
if not the world. Though, that was its kind of
a misnomer because when people called him the Japanese Babe Ruth.

(01:27:43):
They didn't mean he was as good as Babe Ruth.
They meant he plays two ways. Right, that that Babe
Ruth played two ways. Unfortunate though, because the expectations I
think matched more the the idea that he was going
to be a Hall of Famer less than the fact
that he pitched and batted both uh and and had
utter memendous amount of success doing both. But a triple
digit picture in Japan is a triple digit picture here

(01:28:05):
in the States. You're absolutely right when you're missing six
seven miles off your fastball, something's wrong outside of Hey,
you know, maybe it's just jet lagged. No. No, the
PRP injections in the elbow were not preemptive. You never
ever put a needle into a ligament unless there's damaged there,
because what is a needle. A needle is a damaging

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implement to a ligament. By poking out a ligament, you
would never do that to a healthy ligament. So clearly
there was a tear in the U c L at
some point. They did it because they're hoping that it
would have some reparative function. It probably didn't. More than
more than likely he's he's probably going to have one

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of the top surgeons in the United States have a
look at this elbow, and then at that point future
is unknown. Here's my thoughts though, And I always say this,
like I was just talking about core backs. Anybody who's
new to a league, uh, fresh fresh off the bus,
the plane, the draft, whatever you want to call it,
wherever you come from. You give them a year. Let

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it bake, like you were talking about in the radio,
and just industry, don't make your judgments immediately. I'd rather
be I'd better rather be wrong and say I've misjudged expectations,
then to look at a picture in a year and say, oh,
move too fast, because that's what upper management now has

(01:29:32):
to do. How much how much you're gonna put into
that You got some toothpaste to put back in the tube,
then if you want to suddenly let it bake. I mean,
this is a guy that upon arrival the Angels already
said we're going six man rotation. Right. We had hundreds,
hundreds and hundreds of people, if not more than a thousand,
show up to his welcome press conference in the form

(01:29:52):
of the media and fans. You opened it up to
the public. Uh, this was not a hey, we got
a guy that might be good down the road. This was, Hey,
come see an Angel game on opening day. We are
about to showcase something you've never seen before. And now
we're not gonna You're not gonna put him out there.
Listen to my point. Though he's he's twenty three years old,

(01:30:15):
he'll be turning twenty four, I believe in July. Like
I think, you really have to look at him and
judge him as any other twenty four year old prospect
and cultivate him. Because if you don't, if you keep
this expectation this high, and there are issues like injury
or developmental whatever they may be, uh, if he's not

(01:30:37):
trending tracking in the right direction, if there's things fundamentally
that need to be changed, you need to slow the
role and either put in the time to correct them
or cut bait as soon as possible if you're not
willing to. Because I'm sure there are a lot of
teams interested. Yeah. I do sometimes though, And and the
Angels organization is not helped by this the idea that,

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oh gosh, he's only twenty four years old. Remember like
five years ago, there was this twenty one year old
kid named Mike trout. He showed up in the exact
same uniform and it was a hot shot the day
he arrived. Familiar with his work. Yeah, so I don't know.
I don't know. Um. You know, also in baseball right now,
you and I have very different views on what just

(01:31:19):
took place with regard to those salaries we were just
talking about. Carlos Gonzalez was all forered a five year extension.
He said no thanks. He now just signed one year,
eight million mustakis seventeen and a half million dollar qualifying offer.
He said no thanks. Now he's playing for five and
a half with a one million dollar buy out. Jake
Arietta doesn't even have a team so far this year. Uh,

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they're gonna scream collusion. They're gonna yell about teams that
aren't trying to win. I'm gonna say, this is the
structure of baseball as you've allowed it to be created.
If you want changes in that end, you've got to
do it during collective bargaining agreement. You can't threaten in
a non bargaining year like this and then go okay,

(01:32:05):
but I'll sign your one year, five million dollar deal.
Like owners totally won this round and they will continue
to have the power until you get to a new CB,
a bargaining table, and somehow you gotta get all the
players on the same page. That is so hard to
do well, absolutely, but to build that onus against UH

(01:32:28):
or the owners, I should say, against all of these
team owners who are are are now tanking, you know,
trying to rebuild for their gain, UH, you know, really
boxing out fans for years, UH, promising something down the
line that may or may not come to fruition. Kind
of undauntedly entering these these contract uh negotiations saying yeah,

(01:32:51):
we're just not gonna pay you what you think you're
worth because guess what, by the end of your contract,
you're gonna be old you're outside of the arbitration. I'm sorry,
that's just life in the essling these days. Guys. Here's
the problem. It takes years. You can see these battles
you have the Carlos Gonzalez is UH signed these smaller
one year deals. The mustakas Is of the world signed

(01:33:12):
these small one year deals because you're trying to build
that that fuel, and that fuel is going to benefit
the union when they do have to come to the
table against these guys who right now are unabashedly tanking
some of these teams. They're they're they're just doing they're
they're doing everything they can to diminish their fan support
for a while to rebuild it. Well except for I

(01:33:35):
always say, okay, when we talk about that, we have
to ask why are they doing that. They're not doing
it for fun. Well, they're not doing it because they're mean.
They're doing it because the structure of sports right now
rewards you for doing so. So all these commissioners, Adam Silver,
you can't do that. Yes I can. It's totally within
the rules number one and number two. You've set up

(01:33:55):
a structure that that's how I can get better. If
you want teams to stop taking that with their two
easy ideas, you have one, I have another. You've always
said losing penalty. There's a losing penalty. You lose, there's
a penalty. Each year it gets worse. My thought is,
stop this idea that the worst record gets the top pick.
Just end it, end it, and then what's and then

(01:34:16):
there's absolutely no benefit in losing. So this is structural.
It's not team by team like the owners are doing
something wrong. Their analytics are telling them that that's what
they're supposed No, no, and they're absolutely right. That's but
that's the problem though, is they're doing everything they're supposed
to be doing to build a winner. However, it's not
what the fans want to see. The fans want to
see their favorite players out there in the baseball diamond.

(01:34:37):
They don't care how the team projects years from now.
What they're excited to see is home runs. What they're
excited to see is stars playing well. If all of
a sudden you have tons of holdouts. Where if all
of a sudden you have a strike in baseball, who
are the fans going to side with? I don't necessarily
think the owners. I don't anybody. I think fans today

(01:34:59):
don't side with anyone when there's a strike. They go millionaires, billionaires. Yeah,
well the sport will look there was a Cold War
through the eighties and the nineties, uh in baseball, and
it got awful. The steroid are actually brought it back.
It's saved baseball in a lot of ways. If the
ownership isn't careful, because remember the players right now, they're

(01:35:21):
making their money, they're gonna go away their careers. Aren't
owning baseball teams. The owners better be careful because you're
entering into a very slippery slope if you want to
destroy a product that you're gonna be hanging onto for
a very long time, where the players will not keep
going in this direction because the players will react. This
used to be the strongest union in all of sports.

(01:35:43):
It could, it could resume to be Jeff Ridder golf
dot Com in fifteen minutes with rich Arnburger, Mark Wellard.
But coming up next, while we sitting here and talk
about Tiger and the Selection Show, neither of those things
will be the biggest sporting event on TV today. We'll
tell you what is next. Alright, Tigers still one off

(01:36:04):
the lead. Um, there are like four or five guys
at eight under par. One of them Sergio Garcia, by
the way, alongside Tiger. They're one shot behind. Justin Rose
Tigers in the fairway, staring down an approach shot right now.
Swing He's staring at it. He likes it. He likes it,
and that's because it's right near the hole. Got about

(01:36:26):
a ten foot birdie, maybe a fifteen foot birdie putt
coming up for Tiger Woods. Uh and Jeff Ritter golf
dot Com joins us in about eight or nine minutes
with Rich Hornberger Mark Willard Um as great of a
rating is this is gonna put up And the selection
show is always fun and it's a little bit new
this year, by the way, got a little bit of
a new philosophy with a selection show. What they have

(01:36:48):
done in years past is they go region by region
and some poor bubble school will have the cameras show
up and show the guys sitting there. It's like, here's
these bron it. No, we're not there all right. Now
we're gonna southeast And my guess it's just this forty
five minute drawn out journey to whether or not they're

(01:37:09):
gonna make it. And and um, these teams have to
take tips by the way from bullpen pitchers, like during
rain delays, like when they the camera comes to your school,
you better be doing a bob sled or everybody pretending
to be you know, racing in the pool at the
Olympics or something like that would make it so much fun.
Well and and bait, you're right, baseball there's nobody better

(01:37:31):
than baseball players at at like passing time. They're unbelievable
at it. I used to work for a minor league team.
One time. Uh the team we were all at an
airport and they literally guys all the I mean within
moments of arrival. We're like, hey, we're kind of early.
The flights not for two hours. Within seconds, somebody's got
a dollar bill tied to a string and throws it

(01:37:55):
out into the middle of the airport hallway, and then
they hold the other end of this string and just
sit there and wait for anybody to bend over and
try to pick that thing um, and then yank the
string and rinse, repeat, and it's an hour and a
half of five. That's that's what baseball players do. I've
been on flights my whole life, you know, just criss

(01:38:15):
crossing the country. In one layover, I watched a minor
league baseball team, and I still wish I would have
asked who it was. They set up two garbage cans
in an empty waiting area, like at a gate, and
we're playing five on five, full core basketball with like
check ins, and there were a couple of guys pretending
to be refs. It was. They're all on their knees,

(01:38:37):
by the way. It was one of the funniest things.
I sat across and watched it was just before like
really anybody knew how to use Twitter or anything. I
wish I would have posted it. It was one of
the greatest things I've ever witnessed. I used to be
a broadcaster for minor league team that was the bus
league in the Northwest League, so Oregon, Washington. You they

(01:38:59):
literally turn simply the bus riding somewhere into a gambling event.
Here's what you do. The spokes on a tire for
a bus, they're like ten big bolts, not spokes, that's
a bike. But you get what I'm saying. There's ten
bolts on the hub cap. Take a sharpie, put a

(01:39:20):
number behind each one of them, one through ten. Then
go up into the bus. Everybody draws a number one
through ten, us into the hat and off you go.
And the next time that bus stops, everybody runs for
the door to jump outside to see which bolt is highest,

(01:39:40):
whichever bolts highest, whoever has that number, you win the cash.
That's just play old fashion. Something of the kids can
get involved. Well, and when you have per damn you
got the cash right there, what the hell throw it
in the in the kiddie So anyway, baseball players are
really really good at that um anyway, I don't even
remember so now what they're gonna do because everybody's got

(01:40:05):
phones and everybody has like been conditioned in our society
to be like I want what I want and I
want it right now, gratification. So the selection sun is
gonna open up and they're gonna be like boom, here's
the teams. So the whole bubble thing is gonna be
They're gonna burst the bubble right away. You're either in
or you're out, and then they'll come back and unveil

(01:40:26):
the brackets and the matchups. So if you're a bubble team,
you get like three carrots on the edge of a
string as opposed. So are you in? Yes, okay, what's
your seed okay? And who are you playing? There's all
of those things wrapped into one, so that will be
kind of fun. But the biggest television event of the
day is going to be this O. J. Simpson thing.

(01:40:49):
I want to feel good about myself in life, don't all.
It's really hard sometimes. I mean, yeah, there are times
where I know, like walking in the door, I'm like,
oh yeah, I'm gonna be going. I'm gonna go ahead
and uh, find my soul at lost baggage. When you know,
like Vegas is one of those towns you're just like,

(01:41:10):
self respect is in the lost and found somewhere at
the cosmopolitics. Right this weekend, we're just gonna let it
all hang out. It's gonna be donuts, gambling and women that. Okay, fine,
you do that every now and again, I guess, But
I also think about it as like a dad of
three kids. I hate how often I'm looking at my phone.
I'm always telling them put the damn screen down, and

(01:41:31):
they're probably like, okay, Dad, and then they look at me,
and what do I do, Like I gotta check my email,
you know, I mean, And sometimes it's worse than that
because you're just like, gosh, they're always on their phone,
and then you look down and you're like the candy crashes,
you know, I'm google how to get people off phones?
All right, So I want to feel good about myself.

(01:41:54):
But tonight it's gonna be one of those nights where
I guess we just can't know again. You're checking your
self respect right at the entrance of the living room
and you're gonna sit down and pop popcorn and you're
gonna watch two hours of O. J. Simpson's um, what
is it? The Lost Confession? And this is all based
on that book if I did it with the little

(01:42:15):
teeny if and quotes, it is just like I did it.
And the Goldman family thought years ago that this was
his confession and they were going to reap the benefits
of the book coming out because they were going to
get the money. And then all of a sudden, this
whole thing was owned by Rupert Murdoch and Fox was
going to broadcast it, and they just got to the
point where they're like, this is in terrible taste and

(01:42:39):
this is gonna blow up in our face. So before
we broadcasted and before we published the book, how about
if we don't? And so it went away. And I
don't know if this is just because now he's out
or enough time has passed, but we're gonna see this tonight,
And aren't we all done with O? J? We would
all say yes, But how could you not? Well, No,

(01:43:03):
this is fascinating to an unbelievable level. I mean, this
really kind of all occurred before I was very cognizant
of what was happening. Like I remember as a young
kid I just realized, Wow, everybody's talking about this, this
must be a very big deal. And then later found out, oh,
I get it. A man got away with murder Like

(01:43:26):
that's insane. Okay, later gets gets punished. Almost feels like
a makeup foul in basketball for armed robbery in Vegas
or conspiracy to commit h you know, he goes, he
goes to prison. It's like, all right, they missed a
hard foul, so we're gonna give an off ball screen

(01:43:46):
to this big, lunking defender on the other side of
the court. Yeah, so it goes to prison for a while. Um,
you know, the in between though, this interview happened, and
like you said, in poor taste, maybe there've been legal ramification.
Whatever it may have been. It went away for a while,
all the way back in two thousand six, I believe
this happened. And so here we are a decade later.

(01:44:08):
He's seventy. I mean, he's not feeble, you know, but
but it's it's it almost seems like a different guy.
Um I am. I am so riveted and interested by this.
I know that the Lebron is visiting the Lakers and
all this talk about it, you know, the brackets the
selection Sunday. I'm going to be glued for two hours. Um,

(01:44:32):
there's no question about it. Jeff Ritter, golf dot Com.
In a couple of minutes, let's get David Gascon in
here right now. He is actually going to come over
to the house tonight watch the o J Lost Confessions.
I'm gonna make nachos and uh, yeah, well that's right. No, Rich,

(01:44:53):
you probably don't know this. God, I totally forgot. So
David's dad, why don't you just describe David's dad was
totally involved in the o J k's Yeah, the proper
introduction is this, that's command of David Gascon from the
Los Angeles Voice Department. Well, he was the police spokesman
at the time, was a fugitive from the law. He
was the one that announced that when when when o

(01:45:15):
J Made in America came out, when I was now
I knew, I've known David a few years. O J
Made in America comes on, and then all of a sudden,
you know, they're interviewing all these people. This guy comes
up in a police uniform and it's like officer, Uh,
and what's your dad's first name? David? David that's why
I was Officer David Gascon And I'm like, facial structure,

(01:45:36):
check name check the years the way that'd been check.
And I texted him, I'm like, are you officer David Son.
It's like guilty. I just picture of the camera pans
down and it's a young David Gasket Like yeah, why

(01:45:57):
didn't your dad use you at his press offerences? Like
Steph Curry muses Riley, like why couldn't you have walked
into the room and done that. I thing to o J,
like I see you, man, I see you, o J.
You killed two people. That was a different time. That
was a wild time. But the best part about that
is like when the cameras were gone, I mean, he
met a ton of Lakers, Dodgers and Kings players because

(01:46:20):
they'd be popping in and out of the l APD
office is like, hey, what's going on with o J?
It was o J? It was Michael Jackson. During that
time was the North Hollywood shootout? Like there was a
wee bit going on at all? Oh man, that's right.
So yes, you and your dad are invited over for

(01:46:40):
nachos tonight. Let's watch the confession. Nice? Nice? Are they organic? Nachos.
They can be if you want them to be. Dave,
I know you're watching your ground figure. You have no
you have no worries. A might play, I might get
in trouble because I stole someone's girl Scout cookies in
the freezer like ten minutes ago. Are very upset. Non

(01:47:01):
gm oh, it's all good, guys. College basketball today, get
a bunch of teams that are advancing to the n
C Double A tournament that will include a couple of
them from the SEC. All three, no good. The Cats
are the champions of the SEC Tournament for the fourth
year in a row, defeating twelve Rank Tennessee seven seventy

(01:47:22):
two here in St. Louis. Yeah, a long with Kentucky.
We also get an IVY League team as Pen goes.
They defeat Harvard. Earlier on today by a final score
sixty eight to sixty five. Rank Rhode Island lost to
Davidson in their conference matchup fifty to fifty seven, and
then later on today eighth ranks Cincinnati and number twenty
one Houston in the A A C Conference Championship now

(01:47:46):
VALSPURG Championship. As we're talking about golf all day long,
Paul Casey is your leader. He's at minus ten Tiger Woods,
two strokes behind, but he's wearing a red shirt. Yeah. Well,
there's a long way to go. You good m all right, Dave,
thank you very much and thank your dad for us too,
for all he has done for the law enforcement of community.

(01:48:09):
What does it mean when Geico says just fifteen minutes
could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance.
Probably should have gone to guy could dot com fifteen
minutes ago. By the way, I want to. I need
to apologize to Steph Curry and his family right now
that that came out wrong. I didn't mean that he
uses Riley and I Riley Curry and Ryan when she's
old enough and I know I he's just pregnant again.

(01:48:30):
I want them at as many press conferences as possible.
You are such a hapless Warriors family publicly. I'd like
to apologize, but I'm not one of those media members
that didn't like that the girls were there, so I
didn't want it to come out sounding like I was.
I like that the uh. I like when Chris Paul,

(01:48:50):
I like the kids at the press conferences. I think
it's fun. Um. I like it when Jeff Ritter golf
dot Com joins us as well. Jeff, thanks for coming on.
What would we con it here? A good finish today?
I know a lot of people want to see a win,
but you know what if somebody else just goes out
and shoot to sixty five? Like, are are we more
focused on the victory or are we more focused on

(01:49:12):
his score today? In your mind? Well, what's up, guys.
It's good to be here, I think, uh. I mean, look,
if Tiger were to actually pull this off and win
this thing, it's a crowded leaderboard that as some accomplished
players up there. But if he actually won this, I
mean that takes that takes everything to a new level.
I mean I jumped down a little bit earlier I
heard you promote the March Madness draw. Obviously that's coming tonight,

(01:49:36):
right before the valves bar. I think it Tiger wins.
They call me crazy, but I think that becomes the
biggest story in sports. I think it's the one thing
that could even top the coverage of March Madness tomorrow.
I think that would leave the sports pages. And even
if Tiger doesn't win today, I still think this comeback
has already taken. It's unquestionably a giant step forward. So

(01:49:56):
in some ways he's already won this week. You know,
as as it comes through this eighteen healthy looks good.
Now he's taken the next step. He's put himself in
a contention on Sunday. So wind loser draw today, just
come back. It's still it's moving forward and it's tracking
right on track for August and National in about three weeks.

(01:50:16):
So funny, Jeff, we're talking about whether or not Tiger
wins like it matters right now. Golf has one. I mean,
really that that's that's the story of the weekend. Golf
is the big winner here because everybody's interested in the
val Spar Championship, Like nobody even knew this tournament existed
last year, and here we are. I'm glued to the screen.

(01:50:37):
We've been watching it all day, Tiger Woods. You know,
it's interesting. We were just talking about the O. J.
Simpson last lost confession that will air tonight, and uh,
this idea of controversial sports figures, the idea that sports
are the greatest reality show, that we have pure competition
un folding in front of our eyes, and when we
get to know these guys off their playing field, and

(01:51:00):
whether it's good or bad, it really draws a ton
of attention. Is that important to this? Is it less
about Tiger Woods and the golfery is and just all
about the controversy, all about the comeback? I think I
think Tiger. I mean you can see by the TV
ratings and the interest that he's drawn and the fact
that I'm on talking to you today about the Balspar Championship. Uh,

(01:51:25):
there's He's just a different level of athletes. In fact,
I would say it's not that he's beyond athlete. He
is a celebrity in his own right. And so, yeah,
the stuff that's happened off the course, the scandals, the injuries,
the dui last year, all of that stuff plays into
his story and and for you know, better or worse,

(01:51:46):
it attracts more eyeballs, it's more interest. And those are
layers to this comeback story. So when people today are
tuned in to see if if Tiger can come back
and win, you know, for the first time in four
and a half years, it's not just about the injuries.
It's it's everything you know, and it and it even
goes back to you know, the sex scandal, of nine
years ago really and't one of major since that happened. Obviously,

(01:52:09):
the vals bar is not a major, but him being
in contention is a huge step forward. And and all
of those all that off course, off field stuff. Uh
that certainly plays into how he's perceived, how he's covered,
and why the ratings are what they are this weekend.
Jeff Ridder golf dot Com. Tiger Literally as you were
speaking there, just lift out a birdie putt and I

(01:52:30):
had a physical reaction, like I I almost fell out
of my chair. Um. And uh So, anyway, he remains
two back, um and in a tie for third place.
Right now. I wonder, Jeff, what you think about what
kind of finisher he's going to end up being as
this resurgence continues. He was known, right if you have

(01:52:50):
the lead going in Sunday, that's a rap he's done.
But that's the kind of thing that comes with great
athletes who have that ultra petitive, mean street Kobe Michael
Jordan's type thing. If you're going to go through what
he's gone through, try to soften up a little bit,
be a family man, focus on that too. Can you

(01:53:11):
still be the same kind of finisher? Yeah? It's a
it's a fair question. And obviously, you know, so much
has changed with his life since he was golf ultimate closer.
I believe he had the final round lead and fifteen
uh major championships and he won fourteen of them. So, uh,
your your point is taken that this guy was just

(01:53:32):
about a stone cold lock as you could get it
all of sports in his prime. I don't know, you know,
that's still a step to be taken for him. Is
is that same uh, you know, step on their throat mentality?
Is it still there? My hunch just by the speed
of the way this comeback is progressing and the fact

(01:53:53):
that we're already here. You know, just six months ago
he was talking about how he could barely get out
of bed and was just hitting wet shots, and now
we're here. I gotta think that does come back, you know,
if he's able to continue the good health and practice
the way he wants to practice. I think we're gonna
find out very soon what Tiger has in the final round.
If the lead, you know, right now he's close to

(01:54:14):
the lead, but's still trailing, and it's you know, there's
this tournament could breaks a lot of different directions. But uh,
Tiger is a closed It's the fair question to ask.
My hunch is when he's in that position, it's one
of those things you don't forget. But I'm certainly like
everybody else, I'm excited to see that day, you know, Jeff,
I'm occasionally blamed of maybe celebrating player retirements too loudly,

(01:54:36):
Like I think there are times where I I really
feel like I'm I'm in it for the story, Like
I love to be entertained by sports. And when you
see a player you know, announced their retirement on the
stage after winning the Super Bowl, it's just put a
bow on it, man, Like that's perfect. Um good editing
makes good movies, it makes good television shows. Weah, I

(01:54:58):
hate walking out of theater and going like I wish
I had the last half hour of that movie back.
They should have ended it blank. You know, this is
this is kind of this is kind of where this
could head? Where where where it goes on a bit
too long. He survived a lot of controversy away from
the game. He survived a lot of surgeries to get
himself back to the game. I mean, where do you

(01:55:19):
see the career trending at least early on in this comeback. Yeah,
well that's that's one of the things that makes golf
unique is that there there is no you know, the
consetti reigns down and you announced the retirement, it just
doesn't happen because there's so many, uh, there's so many
tournaments for so many opportunities for even a retire a

(01:55:39):
retired golfer, semi retired golfer to still pop up. Can
play the Champion Circuit, he can, he can play the
Masters as long as he's upright, you know, he doesn't
have to qualify for that for the rest of his career. So, uh,
you know, I don't I don't think this is heading
towards like a win at the Masters and a walk
off retirement. I do think I do think is the

(01:56:00):
key here though, you know, if he if he can
just if this fusion really sticks, you know, if he's
able to continue to practice, continue to play the schedule.
Who wants to play without fear of re injury and
without you know, re injuring himself. But it's even beyond
the back. He's had knee problems to kill his problems,
he's he's really lined up the injuries over the years.

(01:56:22):
He could just have a run of good health. I
do think he's gonna be I mean, I don't think
it's bold to say at this point he's gonna be
a winner on tour again. Uh. And it may happen
sooner than we all realize. And I tell you, I
gotta say this. This masters with still Nicholson winning last week,
tig during contention this week, and all these other top
players still at the top of their games, this is

(01:56:42):
already shaping up. It's shaping up to be potentially an
Alteimer and we're still three weeks away from it. Yeah,
the roars, you can already hear him. Hey, Jeff, great stuff,
Thank you so much for coming on today. No problem, guys,
enjoyed it all right. Jeff Ritter golfed on Calm Fox
Sports Radio with rich On Burger Mark Willard. Coming up next,
the top five things you're gonna hear around the cubicles

(01:57:04):
over the next seventy two hours of America. That's next. Alright,
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Aaron not just come to our shows. Yeah, he's on

(01:57:27):
every show all the time. Now he's gonna get the cancer.
He's on the phone so much, I say, Aaron, put
the phone down, you'll get the cancer. Um. Busy time
of year for Mr Torres. And we're gonna get into

(01:57:50):
this next next hour eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox,
This whole FBI investigation there there really might be an
unintended fact on the entire bracket the entire sport of
college basketball. Um. And and wonder if if a lot

(01:58:11):
of our listeners are seeing that the same way A
seven seven nine on Fox. But I wanted to go
through this really quick. I just want to get anybody
ready for what you're gonna hear around the office this week,
because tonight is one of the few nights that America
still uses its printers. Right, they don't use a printer
very much anymore. We can, you know, it's like scan

(01:58:33):
attached email. Occasionally there's a hard copy signature. Usually that's
for things that are like you're just like, oh God,
I'm dreading this, and then you send it away and
pretend it didn't happen. Right, we want to recycle and
save the rainforest. But not not in the second week
of March, because you're gonna print out the like seventeen

(01:58:54):
versions of the bracket and fill it out and you know,
hand it around and get some pizza green staying on
it and all that good stuff. Hang on Tiger's chipping
for Bertie just rolled it by. That's gonna be a part.
He remains two back. Okay. Um, but people will say
these things. Always so fascinated by this because I am

(01:59:18):
really big fan of people, especially as you get to
be in thirty five and forty and fifty and sixty
just own the hell out of who you are, right.
So I remember being in sports radio and not understanding
that it was okay to be wrong, or it was
okay to not know something like if somebody would you

(01:59:40):
know I was twenty three years old. I'm building a
career around that. Not knowing anything. Somebody sunglasses on that
was amazing. So, um, it doesn't work as well when
you're actually just using eyeglasses. It's you know, you know

(02:00:00):
what I was. It's still good. No, it's still totally
good anyway. Um, it's okay to not know something like
if a caller is like, you know, whatever, throws out
some name for some kid that plays at North Carolina.
I'll just be like, I have no clue. What about
Bernie Burnsides from Rhode Island about it? So I just
own it now, like I love the tournament and I

(02:00:23):
love college basketball, and I don't know who any of
these kids are. I got no clue. I know this year,
I'm not kidding. So we work on the flagship of
San Diego State. I know those kids. I know Badley,
I know Grayson Allen, I know I know Trey Young
and now I know DeAndre Ayton because of wire taps

(02:00:45):
and and he's good. And then if you really pressed me,
I could probably come up with two or three more
former bruin who see in Lithuania Landelo ball used to
be a ruin And then, um, now the lights are
starting to go out. Here's the thing, which is fine,
but we all are gonna act this week and next

(02:01:09):
because you're gonna see what's it's gonna roll out and
people will be like, oh, yeah, no, I had I
had Penn State in my fire bracket. Top five cliches
this week around the printer at your office, all right,
Number five Izzo always has this guy's ready for the
turning like, yeah, what's the last time they actually went

(02:01:33):
in a run? No, let's check in on Michigan state
number four. I hate Duke. Yeah, that's gonna be You
even noticed nobody picks Duke to win it all, even
though they win it all a lot. Well yeah, no, no, no,
people people hate. This is the Patriot effect. This is
the Duke effect. Schewsky Belichick. People think it's a cool idea,
but hate to watch it happen. The one seeds never

(02:01:56):
all make it to the final four, well except for
when all right, number two, uh, you know, a twelve
always beats up five except at the bar at the
end of the night. Let's be honest, and this is
gonna be the new Beaux two thousand eighteen one. DeAndre

(02:02:18):
Ayton was worth every penny all right into our final
hour and Aaron Torres will join us. We continue to
follow Tiger as he heads to the back nine, still
very much a factor. At the Valve's bar, he is
at eight under par. The lead stands at ten under par.
He's in a tie for fourth place. Red Polo on

(02:02:38):
swing in good shape. Sergio Garcia a factor in this
one as well. Um, he's got a birdie ship right
now that one's gonna nestle up next to it. He'll
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consurance guy co dot com for a free rate quote. Okay,
just you giuse your bracket two hours away. Pull it out.

(02:03:00):
Pull it out. By the way, do you strategically put
pizza grease stains on your bracket, like by the timeline
gets to April, it's usually wrinkled, weathered pizza grease on it.
And I'm not comfortable any other way. No, this is
appropriate usage of the word. My pizza grease is organic.
It happens accidentally, Like there's usually a couple of coffee

(02:03:21):
rings on the on the corners like where like I'm
holding down a wrinkled edge, so I could be like, no, yeah,
seeing this one, I got the zags really making a
push you see, it's really baby. Maybe that's what was
next to Odell Beckham's bed, Just little mini pieces of
his bracket were torn off. Oh he was so angry

(02:03:43):
this uh faux bracket that he had to eats bracket
march um gosh much ado about nothing but anyway, very
confusing video. We got some thoughts to get to on
the on the college basketball stuff, but first I do
want to it's funny. I feel like I'm giving you
credit for being right about something, and it's way too early.

(02:04:07):
It's way too early for you to state that you're right. However,
you do sort of feel like you're going to be right.
You told me months ago. By Cleveland Brown's stock and
John Dorsey is a real GM. I keep trying to
get people to divorce yourself from the uniform, the city

(02:04:28):
and everything, you know, because if you do that and
you just go by people football organization, it's entirely believable
that if you wanted to pick a team that is
going to be running that division about two years from now.
The Browns, like Roethlisberger is gonna retire, Flacco is already

(02:04:52):
looking very done. Levi on Bell is probably playing for
a new team in a couple of years, if not one.
The Bengals are the Bengals. They just want people who
have rap sheets. And then there's the Browns. And yes,
you still don't know exactly who that quarterback is gonna be.
But if you're a believer in Donald and I am,
and that's who they pick. Then where are the other holes?

(02:05:14):
I don't see many anymore. This is UH email that
I wrote to you because we do a show together
daily UH down in San Diego. I wrote this to
you at the end of December. This was after John
Dorsey signed on as the general manager of the Browns.
And this was, by the way, prior to UH the
Jimmy Garoppolo trade. So here we go. Who's the Brown's

(02:05:37):
favorite player this year? Jimmy Garoppolo mid season acquisition by
the San Francisco for shortly after the trade went down.
Here's why this year they'll received from the Texans a
fourth slot in this year's draft. The Niners are winning
ball games now and it's important for the Browns because
the Browns also made a mid season acquisition John Dorsey,

(02:05:58):
their new general manager. He's good while the Packers. While
with the Packers as director of football operations, ten plus
win seasons nine of fourteen. When he became the general
manager of Kansas City, he took a to win team
the year before to an eleven win football team. John

(02:06:21):
Dorsey This guy who drafted Kareem Hunt in the third round.
Tyreek Hill Marcus Peters fifth round. Thank you know you're
right about Kareem. Kareem was a third rounder, a great
grab Alex Smith signed. Okay, so here's the thought process here.
The Browns have the first in the fourth overall pick.
Everybody's thinking quarterback. But when he went to Kansas City,

(02:06:43):
this was his first role as a general manager. He
had a ton of success as a front office guy
with the Green Bay Packers, but his first role as
general manager and had tons of success with Andy Reid.
Who mind you another offensive coach just like Hugh Jackson
in Cleveland day free agent acquisition in Alex Smith. Kirk

(02:07:06):
Cousins is sitting out there right now. I do believed
they trade for Kirk cousin Kaepernick. It was the Kaepernick
Smith thing. Smith had gone to the NFC title game,
the Niners were good. He got hurt for a game.
Yeah yeah, yeah, stick with Kaepernick. They go to the
Super Bowl, and the next year they trade him to
the kan City Chiefs. I think got a second round

(02:07:28):
pick or something like that. So we're looking at the
moves that he's making in trade right now. I mean,
and he's done some great work in short order obviously,
or have Josh Gordon, you bring in Landry Uh some
of the other things that have made them a bit
more sturdy or solid. Tyrod Taylor comes in, a lot
of people go, Okay, now they can target see Kwon

(02:07:49):
Barkley top of the draft. They still might, but here's
my thought process. They're not going to do that unless
they bring in Kirk Cousins. And I think all of this,
all of this before free agency opens, is just to
try to learn Kirk Cousins to enter the fold. He's
a winning general manager, he has a proven track record
with veteran available quarterbacks who are trying to make themselves

(02:08:14):
something this league. Kirk Cousins still desperate for that opportunity.
I think he's gonna well, I don't think he's gonna
sign with the Browns, but I think they're targeting Kirk
Cousins saying I don't. I have a different read on
John Dorsey, and that is what John Dorsey has never done.
There's two things he's never done, and you're asking him
to do. Here. One thing he's never done. Pay the

(02:08:37):
biggest free agent quarterback on the market. In fact, right
as his quarterback Alex Smith was getting close to becoming
a free agent. What did he do to trade it
up and got Patrick Mahomes. Actually know he was already
gone by that, Yeah he was. He's already gone by then,
but uh, Alex Smith was not. Yes, he got a
new deal there, but he was never like the highest
paid player at the quarterback position in in the NFL.

(02:09:01):
So now he does something that's very similar to what
he did with Alex Smith, which is, well, let's grab
Tyrod Taylor, let's see how he plays. I still think
they grabbed Donald at that number one overall pick. Taylor's
the placeholder for one year. You see how long it is,
the exact name Glennon Trubisky thing all over again. I
also looked at Dorsey's four drafts in Kansas City, all

(02:09:24):
four drafts put together. Do you have any running backs
he took in those four drafts all put together? Any round?
I mean, the only one I can name off the
top of my head is obviously Kareem Hunt. The answers too,
and actually remember he was no longer the GM in
Kansas City when they drafted Kareem Hunt. They drafted Nile

(02:09:44):
Davis and the Anthony Thomas that's it too, and never
before the third round. So I just want people to
understand this, and I'm fully willing to potentially be wrong here.
I have no idea who the hell anybody's gonna draft.
But I'm trying to explain what my level of shock
would be if the Browns grab Barkley at one, and

(02:10:07):
I'm telling you it would be through the roof multiple reason.
There's no take a running back number one overall. There's
a reason that it hasn't happened. It's twenty three years
and the last time it did happen it was a
running back out of Penn State and it lasted three
plays to John Carter before he was done. The one,

(02:10:27):
as an NFL T you just don't do that, um.
But two, you're you're talking about a guy who clearly
over the years, Now, yes, Jamal Charles was there at times,
but he was an injury prone guy. He's not someone
who's like gonna fall in love with a running back.
And let me add this year is even the craziest

(02:10:47):
year of them all. To take a running back number
one overall, you better think Sae Kwon Barkley, forget this
idea of transcendent. You better think he's the best of
all time. Because they're all are count them probably six seven, eight,
three down backs in this draft. They're gonna be available
on the second day and the third day. Why would you,

(02:11:10):
let's say, even if you only believe one of these guys,
the only reason why first overall, Yeah, no way so
is if he's he's a guy who walks in the
door and immediately becomes the face of your franchise. Like
that's the only reason why I do it. The Cousins
Barkley combo, to me represents Dorsey totally stepping out of
his history. Or I will say this, or it's really

(02:11:34):
kind of a unique position to be in. It's called
the cat bird seed. It's when every other box is checked, basically,
and you have all this draft capital and you can
kind of do whatever you want. If you sign Cousins
is thil is your defense totally checked? Is your offensive
line totally But think about it, Mark, like it with
a normal draft. They and they just brought in what

(02:11:55):
is his name, Randall, Damarus Randall from Green Bay, So
they're better on defense than they were a week ago.
I look at them, and I'd say, if you want
to build a defense in the draft, if you want
to contend in a year or two, you sign Cousins,
you take Barkley if you want him. He's available because
the most important position in football, that box has already
checked in. As a matter of fact, even if you

(02:12:17):
don't want Barkley, you could trade around. You could trade
away the first overall pick if you get Cousins signed,
and then create even further room to improve your defense.
I still just believe it would really be up to Cousins, though,
to sign with the Browns. Here's here's my overall statement
that already have a quarterback making sixteen mil. You're asking
for sideline problem. Call me crazy. I see the Browns

(02:12:40):
winning that division in two years or less. I buy it.
I just I I've been saying this since he signed
with them. All the draft stock, they have, everything, seems
to be swinging their their their way in the division.
Steelers look like that's about to come to an end.
Ben Roethlisberger talking about retirement, Joe Flacco at the end
of his rope pretty un I just it's a prime

(02:13:02):
for the taking moment for the NFC North, and I
think the Browns are sitting in the captain seat with
all the drama surrounding Pittsburgh. I wouldn't be shocked. I'm
not picking it, but it wouldn't shock me if they
won the division this year. I'm Tyrod Taylor to me
is not a bad player. And this is why the
other thing about the Kirk Cousins point, I just don't

(02:13:23):
even know how much better you are with Cousins than Taylor.
So why do that for thirty million a year when
I can take that one in four and get Sam
Donald and another really good like pass rusher or offensive
lineman Joe Thomas, whether he's back next year or not,
he's gonna be going soon. I might look at that position.
I'm looking at running back in the second round, and

(02:13:44):
I feel like I come out of that much better
set up, not only for this year, but but the
future as well. Um. But either way, I'm buying your premise.
I I don't the idea of like, if if you
get Cousins right, maybe Tyrod Taylor was the fall back plan.
Maybe when the Jeff's draft starts shaking out, you trade Taylor,
you you just flip them for more picks. I mean

(02:14:07):
it's possible. Yeah, I know, anything's possible. Uh, and everything
we hear right now this time of years, will always say, uh,
they're just a bunch of eyes, okay with Rich Orninburger,
Mark Willard, Fox Sports Radio, Aaron Torres in about fifteen
minutes and coming up next, we'd love to take your
phone calls eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. Has
this FBI investigation into college basketball brought so much attention

(02:14:29):
to the sport that you are actually now more interested
in watching the tournament? Has your interest level gone up
or down because of this FBI investigation? That's next? Oh
my gosh, Oh you almost hold it from the room.
Tiger short game is so good this week. He's a

(02:14:51):
little wonky with the with the shots, the ball striking today,
but man, that chip, oh you almost put it in.
That'll be a par He remains dight under chasing Paul Casey,
who's at ten under a Tiger in fourth place right now,
still very much a part of this. He's got uh,
this will be the eleventh hole, so he's still got

(02:15:13):
another seven holes to play. Casey has just two Justin
Rose Patrick Reid are the two that are sitting at
nine under parl will keep you up to date. Aaron
Torres in ten minutes, Mark Willard Rich Rn Burger, gotta
get to Hooters. Try the new smoked wings, whole new
way to crave wings, and with all the tastes and
half the calories, you gonna eat twice as many Hooters.
I want to thank Eric on Twitter, who's essentially going

(02:15:36):
to provide a point for both of us, because both
of us thought we made a mistake a moment ago.
We're talking about John Dorsey. We both thought we made
a mistake when we referred to Dorsey making moves in
the draft for the Chiefs last year. But he did.
He did not leave until June. So he is the
guy who traded up to get Patrick Mahomes and he

(02:15:59):
is the guy grabbed Kareem Hunt in the third round.
So now take that from four drafts and only two
running backs to five drafts and three running backs. But
the point remains, never before the third round and a
guy who will go after a quarterback early in the
first round. What does that tell me? Donald not Barkley,
That's what That's what all of this tells me. I

(02:16:20):
just think that this is a guy who, look, I
mean two things, One clearly not afraid to take a
quarterback in the first round, like any general manager should
absolutely if you want a quarterback. It's a protected position
if you if you're looking for a franchise guy and
you think you have him in the first round, go
after him top ten pick or otherwise, just because they

(02:16:42):
last long, Like you're never going to like take a
running back and be like, all right, this will be
our guy for twelve years if it pans out. It
almost never works out that way, so the value really
isn't there in the first round. I think when the
Browns got Tyrod Taylor, it was almost like talk of
the quarterback in the draft went away. I still think
that's very likely. As a matter of fact, I still

(02:17:05):
think with the top pick they should take a quarterback,
and I think they will take a quarterback. However, I
will say this, I think all of these moves on,
I mean, we are moments away from free agency opening
in the NFL are all building up to giving presenting
the best case possible to Kirk Cousins. And I think

(02:17:25):
if they land them, the Browns overnight are immediately a contender.
We'll get to college jumps in a second. But you
know what else I noticed right now? I don't feel
like I've seen this before in the NFL. You tell
me if I'm just misremembering, but I feel like the
Lebron effect is taking over this offseason. Kirk Cousins is

(02:17:48):
a rare case. We don't often see a guy that
is considered a top ten or twelve quarterback in the
NFL that just is like there for the taking on
the open market. N't see that very often, and here
we do. And because of that and the fact that
there are five, six seven teams who are in dire
need of a quarterback, and in fact some of them

(02:18:10):
who believe, uh, just like adding water to top Ramen,
it's just like add quarterback. We contend Denver feels that way,
Arizona feels that way, Minnesota feels that way. But then
throw in the Jets and Buffalo and all these teams
who clearly need a quarterback. We're seeing guys openly recruit

(02:18:30):
on social media way more than I think I feel
like I've ever seen before in the NFL, and I'm
wondering if that is NFL players kind of taking a
queue from the NBA. It look I I feel like
the biggest sports stars are trend setters. I remember when
Tigers started getting really great. We saw a lot of

(02:18:51):
red polos on the golf course. I mean, we're watching
him play in red today. I guarantee red polos are
selling off the shelves as we speak. It's just the
way it works, Lebron James. This open recruitment by fan
base is buying billboards, by teams looking and having their
stars really pressing the issue. I almost feel like it's
it's it's some of the Opper Management's influence, Like, hey,

(02:19:14):
do you know him? Could could you maybe tweet him?
David Johnson was tweeting him. Yesterday Larry Fitzgerald and Kirk
ran into one another in an airport, took selfies with
each other. Both of them are tweeting about Killer and Emmanuel.
Joe Thomas, who's the free agent himself, you know, played
his last contract with Cleveland, Like Joe didn't even know
if you're playing. I mean, it's happening. And I do

(02:19:38):
think that that's actually a really interesting idea that Lebron
James is impacting the free agency market in the NFL too,
because look, things come of age all at once. I
think the fact that in the NBA we very rarely
see a transcendent talent like Lebron James up and so
available for free agency. Where is he going to sign? Uh?

(02:20:01):
He's done it twice in his career. I think we've
kind of had a prelude to and Kirk Cousins being really,
like you said, the only quarterback in recent memory at
least that was a free agent who you could consider
in the top tier of quarterbacks in the NFL available
like this. I do think a page has been torn
out from n B A Aaron Torres in five minutes. Um.

(02:20:22):
I'm like so many people in America, which is that
when football season is going, I might stumble upon, uh,
college basketball, something here or there, but until the Super
Bowl is over, Um, I don't jump in with both feet.
And then we get to March and I'm like, okay,
let me, let me soak it up. UM. I think

(02:20:42):
I've seen DeAndre eight and play like one time. Um,
if you would ask me who's DeAndre Ayton before this
whole Sean Miller wire tap story, I may or may
not have gotten it right. I have been like, ye,
he plays for and I'm not a Clipper. Might be
I'm not. I'm not afraid to admit that um. But

(02:21:05):
with that said, that means attention brings interests, and I
gotta say, especially for that team, Aton has shown out
so much they win the Pack twelve tournament last night.
He's starting to look like not just one of the
best players in America, is starting to look like the

(02:21:25):
best player in America. He might be the number one
overall pick in the draft. That kind of guy. And
when you add in Arizona Aton wire tap allegations, Sean
Miller with a forceful denial at a press conference, t
shirts that say vindicated, with the A being the Arizona logo.

(02:21:47):
Sorry for the news flash, Arizona fans. He hasn't been
vindicated yet. He's just a guy who's yelled into a microphone.
I didn't do it. That's no different than O. J.
Simpson and Lance Armstrong at this point. However, uh, where
whatever you want to wear? Do you? But all of
that it's going to make me want to watch Arizona
in the tournament that much more. And they look poised

(02:22:09):
to potentially like if this team makes the final four,
can you imagine the stories Like they're gonna win the
national championship and everyone's gonna go is this gonna count
a week later, or or we canna actually hear those
wire taps and the whole thing is gonna get colleted. Basketball,
in my opinion, has really lifted off as as far
as the public's uh interest. I mean, and it's it. Look,

(02:22:32):
it's March, so it's it. That doesn't sound like a
revolutionary statement, But if you really think about how much
we've talked about college basketball through the fall, after this
news broke about the FBI probe, after ten or more
people on the fringes of college basketball are coaching within
the field were arrested for you know, dealings with money

(02:22:54):
and recruitment and sponsors and all this stuff that was
simmering underneath. But and we all knew, but never have
become so public before. And now here we are fan bases. Look,
it's like the wild Western college basketball fan bases are
throwing dollar bills at players as the exit courts going,

(02:23:17):
you know, pay for play, pay for like like I
want to go back to college. By the way, it
makes it makes me smile every time I see something
like this, because yeah, you know, is it abusive towards
the players had to a certain degree, But I think
everybody understands like where this comes from. This comes from
this insane intense interest in college basketball, and it's mounting

(02:23:40):
now at just the right time. I read this thing. Uh. Recently,
revenue for the n C two A over seen has
eclipsed a billion dollars for the first time in the
history of the organization. Like, if anybody thinks that this
college basketball probe is gonna do anything other than lift
those numbers even higher, For there's not gonna be a

(02:24:03):
single network shying away from carrying a tournament game, or
or any or any number of them. There's not gonna
be a single school that really suffers for this. They're
still gonna be doing a great job recruiting because players
are still gonna want to go to the best schools
but the best opportunity to advance their creative NBA. So look,
trust me when I tell you this all seems really

(02:24:25):
really bad, but it's really really good for bottom line. Yeah.
Aaron Torres is one of the guys who, by the way,
is convinced that Arizona did nothing wrong. He's gonna join
us in a minute. Paul Casey is the leader at
ten under part in the golf tournament he's on the
eighteenth hole and he just hit his t shot into
the yuck. So the plot thickens there. Will keep you
up to date on that. But let's get gas On

(02:24:46):
in here. Speaking of people who have been vindicated in
their life, Let's go live. Let's go live to David Gascon.
Were we all together when this whole thing broke with
Arizona and you were talking about all these coaches and
all these programs guilty something. Yes, and I still believe that.
And by the way, I was wrong. I said Spoilerler
that day, Sean Miller's never gonna coach again for Arizona,

(02:25:08):
and then he coached like a week later. Yeah, But
but I do think it's funny what happens. And this
is why so many sports figures and anyone for that matter,
who's accused of something, you'll see them come out and
have these forceful press conferences. I did not do it.
I did not have sexual relations with that woman, because

(02:25:28):
if you do that, it's crazy people believe you, even
though repeatedly those people have shown that they're actually just
lying more. But for some reason, everyone believes him. Do
you believe Sean Miller? Now, without without a shadow of
it out. Look, Okay, this is a true story. One
time I was being considered to be in NASA's program
for young astronauts guys. And the crazy thing though I

(02:25:51):
made the whole thing was like, I don't believe that.
To prove the point that if you say anything with confidence,
people will buy, right, would you have a gp AF
Penn State? Oh? Are you kidding me? It was way
up there and it was three numbers. Will I will
if there was twos and threes and even a four involved.

(02:26:16):
That'll keep you on the field. Oh man, guys, college
basketball today get a bunch of teams obviously going to
the Big Dance that will include Kentucky as they won
the SEC. They beat Tennessee today seventy seven to seventy four.
They're joined by Penn, who won the Ivy League, dropping
Harvard eight to sixty five. Davidson's also going from the

(02:26:36):
A ten. They beat Rent Rhode Island, Georgia State from
the Sundalt Conference, wins at seventy four to sixty one
over UT Arlington and underway at the half twenty one
ranked Houston leading Cincinnati thirty seven to thirty five NBA
and only got a couple of games today. One of
them features arguably the best team in all of the NBA,

(02:26:57):
Golden State Warriors. They're in Houston right now taking on
the Wars. Steph Curry is not playing in this ballgame
because it was bum ankle, but they're on top right now.
In the second quarter fifty seven Kevin Durant, that man
seventeen points. Clay Thompson right behind him with twelve. Good stuff.
Dave As always appreciate it. Uh, great news. Quick way

(02:27:17):
you can save some money. Switched to Geico. Got a
guy dot comment in fifteen minutes you could say, or
more on car insurance. All right, let's get him in here.
College Roop's insider college basketball contributor for the Athletic We
love having him on busy busy man this time of year.
Aaron Torres joining us, and Aaron, I gotta start with this,

(02:27:40):
And I don't have the exact tweet in front of me,
but you said something along the lines of, like you're
convinced now as Arizona goes into this tournament with a
lot of momentum um and you know you're you're talking
about basically a violation that they quote did not commit
or are you are you convinced of that or you
just convinced that Sean Miller is somehow convinced you know

(02:28:03):
what I mean? Like, do we actually we don't know
what happened at this point? Do we? Willard? You know
you are such you hate Arizona so much? Willard everything.
Every time you bring me on your show, you kind
of back me a new a quarter. Now here's the thing.
I don't think a wire tap exists of Sean Miller

(02:28:25):
arranging to pay a hundred thousand dollars to DeAndre ad
in which, if you read his carefully embedded statement that
he made, that was basically all he admitted to Um. Now,
did DeAndre and get paid to go to Arizona? I'll
tell you what, It's the best investment that school ever
made if they did, um you know, did uh you know?
Did he uh? You know? Look, I think there are

(02:28:48):
a lot of questionable things that happened behind the scenes
in Arizona. But I do believe that a wire tap
of Sean Miller, um, you know, arranging to pay a
hundred thousand dollars doesn't this And and the reasons are
really it's not because I believe that Sean Miller is
some moral, upstanding guy, but you know, the guy who
covers college college basketball. There are just a lot of

(02:29:11):
pieces from that original ESPN story that don't add up,
ranging from the fact that Christian Dawkins was never involved
in DeAndre Aytan's recruitment at any point, the fact that,
by the way, Sean Miller says, don't go through Book
Richardson on this recruitment, go through me. But Book Richardson
wasn't even DeAndre Aytan's primary recruiter. It was Joe Pasternak,

(02:29:32):
who's now the head coach at UC Santa Barbara. So
a lot of the pieces in the ESPN story don't
add up. Oh, by the way, the call is alleged
to have happened in in uh, you know, the summer
of seventeen, when DeAndre Ayton was already on campus. So
this isn't me going up bat for Sean Miller. As
as the uh you know, uh bastion of n t

(02:29:53):
A rules Uh you know, guy, But I just I
don't think that that specific tape with the specific info
that ESDN aledged two or three weeks ago, this, you know,
as we get prepared to put our brackets together. It's funny.
As I look around college basketball, I'm just really getting
my feet wet talking to a hoops insider like you.
I want to know who the sleepers are, Like, where

(02:30:16):
should we start if we want to impress people come
the end of March, guys, you know I'm telling you.
I know what you're gonna say. The whole country is
coming down with it. We guys, we have talked about
San Diego State all year and and as I've told

(02:30:37):
you guys before, look, there's been this weird narrative coming
out of the bracketology world, which is a world that
I'm not totally familiar with, that we need to start
re evaluating teams based on if they can get healthy
this time of year and what their roster looks like
going into the tournament as opposed to what it was
during the regular season. Well, fellas you know, San Diego State,

(02:31:02):
when they're fully healthy, they beat Nevada twice, they beat Gonzaga,
they peat Georgia, they were awesome in the Mountain West
Conference tournament. And you see yesterday the value of Trait Kell,
a senior point guard. I mean, they lost a bunch
of one possession games without him. And I'm telling you, man,
that is a team that probably if they were just

(02:31:24):
healthy all year, we're talking about them as a six
or seven in the team that could have gotten in
is be at large. Well, they weren't healthy all year.
They lost a bunch of games, but they're healthy now
they're playing their best basketball. Brian Dutcher, fifty nine year old,
first time a nt A tournament head coach. They could
be a heck of a story over the next couple
of weeks. Aaron Torres the athletic joining US college hoops.

(02:31:47):
It's Brackett Sunday, Aaron, you tweet in an hour ago,
death taxes, John Calipari getting Kentucky to peak heading into
the n C Double A Tournament. How real are they?
Nobody knows that program better than you. What could they
actually do in this dance? Well, if they're good enough
to beat anybody? Um, uh, you know, I don't think

(02:32:08):
it looks you know, the guys. You know that is
that it's so tough to say, uh you know what
a team is gonna look like without knowing their draw.
And the crazy thing is, you only gotta win six games,
You only gotta beat six teams. To win a national championship,
you don't gotta beat all sixty eight. You know, if
they if they have to play a Villa Nova or
an Arizona at some point, I don't feel great, but

(02:32:29):
I don't feel great about a lot of teams playing
those two teams. So, um, look, I think the ceiling
I think is the final four. I don't know if
it's gonna happen. Um. I also think they're a team
that with the wrong draw, could be out in the
first weekend. What's really interesting about Kentucky is this is
how does the SEC tournament championship affect their seating. This

(02:32:50):
is something John Calipari will yell about today if it
if they're not able to kind of move up a
seed line after beating a really good tennis team team,
because you know, let's remember that those top four seeds
are supposed to be given kind of geographic preference when
it comes to selection and seating and all that, and
so if that team has first and second round games

(02:33:12):
in Nashville as opposed to San Diego or Poisy, that
makes their path completely different. So it will be exting
to see. I think this team stealing is the final four.
They want at West Virginia. They peaked Tennessee on a
neutral court today. Those are two teams that are gonna
be two three, two seeds, three seats somewhere in that nature.
Wouldn't surprise me for them to make a deep run.

(02:33:32):
Aaron Torres joining us on Fox Sports Radio. You know,
Selections Sunday is gonna take on a very different vibe
this year. It feels like everybody's just gonna get punched
in the face with who's made it who didn't, But
then seating matchups come out after that on the other
side of this, come Monday, what do you think the
headlines are going to say as far as how this
went over and maybe some of these bubble teams who

(02:33:55):
didn't make it. Yeah, I think it's a great question, Rich.
I think the head line is going to be basically that,
without knowing who those final few teams are, people don't
like this new quadrant system. And I'm not gonna borrow
your audience with details, but basically the it was. It
was a good natured idea that was supposed to, uh,

(02:34:16):
you know, reward teams for playing neutral court games road
true you know, true road games in the out of
conference all they ended up doing is really favoring those
power conference schools like the A schools from the a SEC,
the SEC, the Big Twelve. And I think we're gonna
see a lot of Big twelve teams that are you know,
Tredy Young in Oklahoma eighteen and thirteen. Texas has fourteen losses.

(02:34:41):
I thought, I'm texting my buddies, a Texas fan today,
he told me himself he doesn't think his team deserves
to be in the n c A Tournament. So I
think the teams that are gonna be on the wrong
side of the bubble as a team like Middle Tennessee
State that was really good all year but really just
frankly didn't have a chance to pick up really good
wins because nobody will play him in the out of conference. St.

(02:35:02):
Mary's could be on the wrong side of that as well.
And they're like seven and four this year or something
like that. So yeah, you know, but they So I
think that's what the conversation is gonna be. There's already
fuzzed that this squadrant system just didn't work and needs
some very you know, major tweaking in the off season.
I think regardless of who those last few teams are

(02:35:24):
that are in. People are not going to be happy.
Aaron Torres on College Hoops on Brackets Sunday, Big Day,
Thank you so much for a few minutes, but no proms.
I appreciate you. Thank you. All right there he goes.
Aaron Torres on Fox Sports Radio with Rich Hornburger, Mark Willard,
Tiger Woods, coming down the stretch. Breaking news in baseball.

(02:35:44):
That's next. Al right, been fun today, great news. Quick
way you can save some money. Switched to Geico Geico
dot com fifteen minutes, a fift cent or more on
car insurance. Mike Kelly from Salam coming up next, he
from is gonna be uh it's about a foot foot
and a half above ground. His San Diego State Aztecs

(02:36:04):
worked their way into the tournament. Yeah. Um, so that's fun.
And then Aaron Torres says, oh, by the way, there's
your dark horse. Hang on, before we give you the
baseball breaking news, we bring you this live description of
a twenty foot Birdie Putford Tiger Woods, Paul Casey at
ten under Tiger's two back. Bertie put on its way turning, turning, turning. Wow,

(02:36:29):
just just missed it. Boy, he gave that quite a
streng okay, um, but he's got a yeah, a little
part putt coming back he'll make. This is the thirteenth hole.
Casey is done ten under par. He's posted ten under.
Leader in the clubhouse, two players at nine under, Tigers

(02:36:51):
at eight under, and now has five holes to play.
And the beauty of what happens Now now you have Tiger,
I need to make birdie woods. This is different. Now,
this is the way golfers handle a Sunday. And when
you're Tiger and you've made enough money to establish the
rest of your life and your kids as well, it's

(02:37:13):
very different. You'll see golfers. This is one of the
reasons on Sundays, guys who you've never heard of, who
are contending, suddenly get a little wobbli because to them
a win would be unbelievable. Second, and they don't see
the finishing his round on top because you you got
you had a figure at some point, a guy who've

(02:37:35):
you've really never heard of, uh, sitting atop the leaderboard
for over I believe what three days. He was He
was the clear kind, had the field chasing him and
was able to to to sit down, have a smoke
and a coke, knowing that he led the field the
entire time, Like, that's pretty impressive. But yeah, you're absolutely right.
This is where the pressure comes on for the for

(02:37:57):
the players of golfers who don't get a lot of
the opportunities, and Tigers really kind of in that zone
where he's like, yeah, been here before. Yeah, Like if
seven thousand dollars is gonna make your career, then you're like, Okay,
I could try to go for the win, or I
could just par out and take third and we're fine. Here.
Tiger doesn't give a crap about making a double buggy

(02:38:18):
because there's no difference to him between third place and
seventh place. So he's gonna go. So here come to Jets.
Five holes to go, he needs two birdies to tie. Uh.
And there are a couple other golfers in this mix
as well, and and and they're you know, no small potatoes.
Justin Rose Patrick read so keeping an eye on this
the most entertaining Valve Spar Championship, I would say so.

(02:38:43):
All right, Um, breaking news Baseball not done yet, but
getting very very close. According to John Hayman and others,
Bob Nightingale, Jim Bowden, Jake Arietta and the Philadelphia Phillies.
That's where Arietta is going to go. You asked me, Okay,

(02:39:07):
what do you think he's gonna get? And uh, it's
got to be one of those really short deals right Well,
at this point, if you've waited this long one or
two year or one plus one maybe like Mustakis did.
I don't know. Lance Lynn signed yesterday. I think for
what ten or twelve million dollars? So, um, I mean

(02:39:28):
I'll go, you know, fourteen, one year, fourteen for the Phillies.
And Jake Arietta, I mean what I mean? He thought
he was gonna get two hundred million dollars. Yeah, and
a long stay somewhere. I mean Hosmer really, of the
Boris clients, how Jadie Martinez the only two that really
caught that wave and Hosmer's it sounds so much better

(02:39:52):
than it really is because the buyout or that I
should say, the opt out that the team has at
the fifth year. Um, it really it sets up almost
like a five and a three, you know, it's almost
it feels like two separate contracts. And uh, the average
salary really bears out to be a team friendly deal

(02:40:13):
when you really think about his age and then the
time when the average salary shifts, which is right around
that thirty two years of age mark. So I I look,
it's a different era in baseball. Uh, these short contracts,
one year deals where they're paying you know, slightly less
than value on these guys for an average year salary.
What happens next year? Like if we get to Harper

(02:40:37):
Trout and we have these huge names who every Machado,
thank you Manny Machado, everybody is vying for and if
they come in under somehow what they are have proven
to be worth over there the longstanding resume of work,
then then truly, I think, I think that the players

(02:41:01):
will band together and this is going to create or
light the fire underneath a labor action that will will
ensue somewhere on the line. I actually think that this
disagreement is not as much of a disagreement as people think.
I just think it's structural. The problem here is too
many players are finally getting to what's supposed to be
their big free agent moment when they're like years old.

(02:41:24):
But don't you think because the arbitration process where teams
can control control, control, control, Oh, then we want a
big deal. But then that's a leverage play for them.
The donors will want to hang on to that dearly
mightily because they understand that they can, really they can,
Like you said, they can lock up a player for
a long time, and they could do the the thing

(02:41:45):
that's right by the player if they offer him something
ahead of the arbitration. The players Union I start meetings now,
and I say that's what we want to change. There's
two things as a player you want to change. This
arbitration process is making it take too long for us
to get the free agency number one and number two.
Stopped giving the worst team the top draft pick, because

(02:42:07):
you'll have teams immediately. Stop this whole tank process. And
those are the two things that are stopping teams from
getting in on on big ticket items. Um, all right,
we're boogie in at the golf tournament at the Valves Bar.
Justin Rose just bogeyed, so he joins Tiger at eight under.
So Tiger is now in third. Patrick Reid birdies to

(02:42:27):
join Paul Casey at ten under. So it's Casey and
read at ten Woods and rows at eight Woods. Is
on the par five and crushed his drive right down Broadway,
so selection sundt O calvs In. The Warriors are playing

(02:42:52):
the Wolves right now. He's no Steph Curry, but Kevin
Durance that you don't like Kevin Duran

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