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In Part Two, we continue our conversation with Casey McFarland co-host of Pioneering Paradox. This time, we explore:

• Casey’s experience attending 50+ churches with his wife and kids

• What interfaith experiences taught him about faith and empathy

• The power of curiosity in healing spiritual and cultural divides

• Why he believes God “has no favorites”

• Reflections on sacred texts like the Bhagavad Gita and the Qur’an

• His upcoming Italy tou...

In this episode, we sit down with Casey McFarland, co-host along with Wil Wood of Pioneering Paradox and the voice behind one of Instagram’s most thoughtful spaces for conflicted Latter-day Saints. We discuss:

• How to talk to teens about Church history and faith struggles

• What it means to be honest without oversharing

• Casey’s own break from religion and what he learned visiting over 50 churches

• Building bridges between nuanced and o...

Guest: Kurt Francom

• Founder and Executive Director of Leading Saints

• Host of the Leading Saints Podcast – available anywhere you get your podcasts

• Author of Is God Disappointed in Me? Removing Shame from a Gospel of Grace – Get it here on Amazon (available in paperback and audio)

Follow Kurt on Instagram:@leadingsaints

Episode Highlights:

• Kurt’s perspective on grace and why God isn’t disappointed in us

• The differenc...

In this episode of That’s Church!, we sit down with Kristy Lawson, who grew up Lutheran in Utah, an experience that made her part of a religious minority in a predominantly LDS culture. We talk about how that shaped her beliefs, the ways she connected with faith, and how she’s navigated life in a place where the majority religion can be deeply ingrained in the culture.

Kristy is also legally blind, and later in the episode, we...

Happy New Year! In this very raw and real conversation, we sit down with Pastor Jeff McCullough, the creator of Hello Saints, a YouTube channel with over 66,000 subscribers where he explores the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints with a refreshing and respectful approach. As an evangelical Protestant pastor, Pastor Jeff brings a unique perspective to interfaith dialogue.

We really enjoyed discussing the nuances of each ot...

In this episode, Emilie Call and Ashlie Sanders sit down with Michelle Peper, the voice behind @edge_of_inside, to discuss her journey from a sixth-generation Mormon upbringing to redefining her faith and spirituality after leaving the LDS Church. Michelle shares her experiences navigating a faith transition with her husband, Bob, finding a new religious home in the First Congregational United Church of Christ, and building a suppo...

Guest: Jenan Mohajir

Topics Discussed:

• A heartfelt discussion about the ongoing Israeli-Palestinian conflict and its ripple effects globally, especially in the United States.

• Reflections on navigating polarization in America and fostering unity through meaningful action.

• The meaningful conversation Jenan had as a Muslim woman with her friend Rebecca Russo, a Jewish woman, exploring their mutual respect and shared hope fo...

Dr. Julie de Azevedo Hanks PhD LCSW

is a licensed clinical social worker, psychotherapist, relationship expert, performing songwriter, and owner of Wasatch Family Therapy. She specializes in women’s emotional health, relationship struggles, and guiding individuals and couples through faith transitions, mixed-faith dynamics, and spiritual identity shifts. Dr. Hanks empowers others to find their voice, maintain healthy boundaries, and...

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Happy Halloween! In this episode, we sit down with “Maddie,” a former member of the LDS Church and a practicing pagan who also identifies as a witch. Halloween, or Samhain, holds deep historical significance within pagan and witchcraft traditions. Maddie assures us that releasing this episode on Halloween is not only appropriate but a respectful nod to her journey in reclaiming her own spiritual path. Read more about Halloween’s pa...

In the second half of the episode, Emilie shares her personal journey of discovering who God is to her and her conclusion about Heavenly Father and Heavenly Mother. The discussion also touches on how each of the hosts has navigated faith transitions and learned to embrace different perspectives in the process.

In this episode, Ashlie and her sister Emilie sit down with Meagan Skidmore from @meaganskidmorecoaching to have a deep and vulnerable conversation about their belief systems, deconstruction and reconstruction of faith, and what led them to start this interfaith podcast. Meagan shares how their paths crossed and how important these conversations are in creating spaces for discussions often left unspoken in their communities.

Part 2 of Dr. Patrick Mason’s interview is now available to the public for FREE! 🎉 If you haven’t listened to Part 1 yet, head back to Episode 19 and catch up first!

PART 2

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Heart of a Woman Retreat is a life changing experience. Time to get away from life in the mountains & connect with God personally.

**Episode Summary:**

In this special episode of *That’s Church*, Emilie Call welcomes Melanie Meszaros and Celeste Jensen, the co-founders of the nondenominational Christian retreat, *Heart of a Woman*. Joined by her good friend Tristin Duncan, who originally introduced her to the retreat, Emilie...

**Episode Title:** Deconstruction, Reconstruction, and the Power of Faith with Aubrey Chaves