That's Church.
✨We’re Emilie and Ashlie, two sisters attending different churches in Utah, building bridges across belief systems. Through podcasts, church visits, events, and honest conversations, we explore what faith, spirituality, and community look like for people from all paths. No pressure to convert, no need to persuade - just space to belong, be seen, and grow with curiosity and love.♥️
Episodes
Guests:
Ashli Carnicelli – Writer, singer, and passionate believer in the Divine Feminine
Trina Caudle – Editor, historian, scoutmaster, and macro-photographer
McArthur Krishna – Author, artist, and advocate for spiritual wholeness
Topics Covered:
Ashli’s Catholic upbringing and connection to Mary, the mother of Jesus
McArthur’s years in India and insights into Hindu goddesses and the Divine Feminine
Trina’s interfaith experi...
In Part Two, we continue our conversation with Casey McFarland co-host of Pioneering Paradox. This time, we explore:
Casey’s experience attending 50+ churches with his wife and kids
What interfaith experiences taught him about faith and empathy
The power of curiosity in healing spiritual and cultural divides
Why he believes God “has no favorites”
Reflections on sacred texts like the Bhagavad Gita and the Qur’an
His upcoming Italy tou...
In this episode, we sit down with Casey McFarland, co-host along with Wil Wood of Pioneering Paradox and the voice behind one of Instagram’s most thoughtful spaces for conflicted Latter-day Saints. We discuss:
How to talk to teens about Church history and faith struggles
What it means to be honest without oversharing
Casey’s own break from religion and what he learned visiting over 50 churches
Building bridges between nuanced and o...
Guest: Kurt Francom
• Founder and Executive Director of Leading Saints
• Host of the Leading Saints Podcast – available anywhere you get your podcasts
• Author of Is God Disappointed in Me? Removing Shame from a Gospel of Grace – Get it here on Amazon (available in paperback and audio)
Follow Kurt on Instagram:@leadingsaints
Episode Highlights:
• Kurt’s perspective on grace and why God isn’t disappointed in us
• The differenc...
In this episode of That’s Church!, we sit down with Kristy Lawson, who grew up Lutheran in Utah, an experience that made her part of a religious minority in a predominantly LDS culture. We talk about how that shaped her beliefs, the ways she connected with faith, and how she’s navigated life in a place where the majority religion can be deeply ingrained in the culture.
Kristy is also legally blind, and later in the episode, we...
Happy New Year! In this very raw and real conversation, we sit down with Pastor Jeff McCullough, the creator of Hello Saints, a YouTube channel with over 66,000 subscribers where he explores the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints with a refreshing and respectful approach. As an evangelical Protestant pastor, Pastor Jeff brings a unique perspective to interfaith dialogue.
We really enjoyed discussing the nuances of each ot...
In this episode, Emilie Call and Ashlie Sanders sit down with Michelle Peper, the voice behind @edge_of_inside, to discuss her journey from a sixth-generation Mormon upbringing to redefining her faith and spirituality after leaving the LDS Church. Michelle shares her experiences navigating a faith transition with her husband, Bob, finding a new religious home in the First Congregational United Church of Christ, and building a suppo...
S2 E40: Conflict to Peace with Jenan Mohajir (Muslim) VP of External Affairs with Interfaith America
Guest: Jenan Mohajir
Topics Discussed:
• A heartfelt discussion about the ongoing Israeli-Palestinian conflict and its ripple effects globally, especially in the United States.
• Reflections on navigating polarization in America and fostering unity through meaningful action.
• The meaningful conversation Jenan had as a Muslim woman with her friend Rebecca Russo, a Jewish woman, exploring their mutual respect and shared hope fo...
Dr. Julie de Azevedo Hanks PhD LCSW
is a licensed clinical social worker, psychotherapist, relationship expert, performing songwriter, and owner of Wasatch Family Therapy. She specializes in women’s emotional health, relationship struggles, and guiding individuals and couples through faith transitions, mixed-faith dynamics, and spiritual identity shifts. Dr. Hanks empowers others to find their voice, maintain healthy boundaries, and...
Summary:
In this episode, we sit down with Cheryl Stout, a former member of the LDS Church who has embraced a journey of self-discovery and spiritual exploration. Cheryl shares her perspectives on:
• Alan Watts’s metaphor of God as the ocean and us as the waves.
• Exploring existentialism, absurdism, and the quest for personal meaning.
• Her experience navigating faith deconstruction and finding empowerment in self-agency.
• T...
⚠️ Spoiler Alert! In this episode of That’s Church!
You will get unique perspectives from BELIEVERS and NONBELIEVERS!
Ashlie Sanders and Emilie Call are joined by their brother Jake Coon, his wife Mandy Coon, and their friend Cheryl Stout to dive deep into the powerful and polarizing new movie Heretic. The film follows two LDS sister missionaries who visit an investigator’s home, only to encounter a surprising challenge to their f...
S2 E36: Onkar and Bryn's Mixed Faith Marriage. Hindu & LDS. Faith, Family, and Finding Common Ground
In this episode, we explore:
• Onkar and Bryn’s backgrounds and how their faith traditions shaped their upbringing.
• The story of how they met and how their love of chocolate chip cookies sparked their connection.
• Navigating a mixed-faith marriage, with Onkar’s Hindu and Bryn’s LDS beliefs, and the importance of respect and mutual understanding.
• How they’re raising their daughter, Jasmira, with a foundation that honors bo...
Happy Halloween! In this episode, we sit down with “Maddie,” a former member of the LDS Church and a practicing pagan who also identifies as a witch. Halloween, or Samhain, holds deep historical significance within pagan and witchcraft traditions. Maddie assures us that releasing this episode on Halloween is not only appropriate but a respectful nod to her journey in reclaiming her own spiritual path. Read more about Halloween’s pa...
In the second half of the episode, Emilie shares her personal journey of discovering who God is to her and her conclusion about Heavenly Father and Heavenly Mother. The discussion also touches on how each of the hosts has navigated faith transitions and learned to embrace different perspectives in the process.
Don’t forget to attend our Interfaith Event on November 2nd at the Compass Gallery! Tickets are available at tinyurl.com/t...
In this episode, Ashlie and her sister Emilie sit down with Meagan Skidmore from @meaganskidmorecoaching to have a deep and vulnerable conversation about their belief systems, deconstruction and reconstruction of faith, and what led them to start this interfaith podcast. Meagan shares how their paths crossed and how important these conversations are in creating spaces for discussions often left unspoken in their communities.
Join ...
Part 2 of Dr. Patrick Mason’s interview is now available to the public for FREE! 🎉 If you haven’t listened to Part 1 yet, head back to Episode 19 and catch up first!
Dr. Mason will also be speaking live at A That’s Church Experience on November 2nd from 5 PM - 8 PM at the Compass Gallery in Provo, Utah. He will be one of the presenters, along with four other amazing presenters from different faiths. 🌟 Don’t miss this incredible ...
PART 2
**Episode Summary:**
In this powerful episode, Mandy Green joins us for an insightful conversation about Mary Magdalene, one of the most misunderstood yet pivotal figures in Christian history. Together, we explore how Mary’s life and legacy provide deep spiritual insights for today’s world. Mandy unpacks the transformative role Mary Magdalene plays in her own faith journey and how she symbolizes liberation, healing, and nur...
**Episode Summary:**
In this powerful episode, Mandy Green joins us for an insightful conversation about Mary Magdalene, one of the most misunderstood yet pivotal figures in Christian history. Together, we explore how Mary’s life and legacy provide deep spiritual insights for today’s world. Mandy unpacks the transformative role Mary Magdalene plays in her own faith journey and how she symbolizes liberation, healing, and nurturing f...
Heart of a Woman Retreat is a life changing experience. Time to get away from life in the mountains & connect with God personally.
**Episode Summary:**
In this special episode of *That’s Church*, Emilie Call welcomes Melanie Meszaros and Celeste Jensen, the co-founders of the nondenominational Christian retreat, *Heart of a Woman*. Joined by her good friend Tristin Duncan, who originally introduced her to the retreat, Emilie...
**Episode Title:** Deconstruction, Reconstruction, and the Power of Faith with Aubrey Chaves
**Episode Description:**
We’re thrilled to have Aubrey Chaves, a host and executive board member of *Faith Matters*, join us on today’s episode of *That’s Church*. Aubrey has been a guiding light for many on their faith journeys, and she’ll be MC'ing the upcoming *Restore Conference* this September 5-7. As a special offer, our list...
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