The Rest Is Money
Robert Peston and Steph McGovern bring you insightful business and finance stories. Join Robert Peston and Steph McGovern as they delve into the key challenges and opportunities facing today’s business world. From the complexities of tech investments to the impact of political decisions on global markets, this podcast offers valuable perspectives on current financial topics. Whether discussing business funding, economic policies, or corporate strategies, they provide listeners with the tools to understand today’s fast-evolving market. Each episode brings expert analysis on important issues, including market regulations, economic recovery, and the forces shaping the future of work. Robert and Steph bring you the latest insights from influential leaders and top entrepreneurs, making this podcast a must-listen for anyone interested in business growth, financial trends, and the evolving economic landscape. For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com.
Episodes
September 3, 2025 • 39 mins
How much is Reeves to blame for surging government borrowing costs? Has she made another error by maximising uncertainty with the long wait to the budget? How could she mend public finances?
Robert and Steph discuss why this coming budget could be the most important of the parliament.
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August 31, 2025 • 41 mins
Is economic policy or economic messaging more important? What single “mission” should energise the whole government? How does Trump cut taxes for the super rich and keep the support of the low-income earners?
Steph and Robert discuss with Professor Mariana Mazzucato, author of Mission Economy: A Moonshot Guide to Changing Capitalism.
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August 27, 2025 • 37 mins
Is there a political case for Trump’s attempt to control America’s central bank? How close are the UK and France to debt crises? How is Starmer trying to exercise more control over Reeves and the Treasury?
Robert and Steph explain.
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August 24, 2025 • 34 mins
Would an annual charge on properties valued over £500,000 be fairer than stamp duty? Will the Chancellor eventually have to scrap the manifesto promise and raise taxes on ‘working people’? How much could the Treasury raise by lowering VAT but getting rid of all exemptions?
Steph chats to tax policy expert, and friend of the show, Dan Neidle.
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August 20, 2025 • 37 mins
Is immigration good or bad for economic growth? Why are we spending so much money on things like migrant hotels? Can we support our ageing population without migrants?
Steph speaks to migration and asylum expert and policy maker, Zoe Gardner.
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August 17, 2025 • 35 mins
Who were the traders who took the hit when the public turned on the City after the financial crisis? How did Tom Hayes lose his marriage, all his savings and his freedom in a case that has since been over-turned by the Supreme Court? Why will he get no compensation?
In the second part of this two-episode interview, Robert talks to Tom Hayes about how he lost everything when he took the rap for the flaws in the LIbor interest rat...
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August 13, 2025 • 30 mins
Why did the authorities jail LIBOR trader Tom Hayes when so many reckless bankers went unpunished? How was Libor so central to the multi trillion dollar financial system? What did Hayes do to put himself in the firing line?
In the first part of a two-part series, Robert talks to Tom Hayes and shines a light on the true Libor scandal. It isn’t what you think.
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August 10, 2025 • 26 mins
Is the government already in a debt trap, where the economy can’t grow fast enough to cover its rising interest bill? Can the government spur economic growth enough to rescue the UK from relentless tax rises and spending squeezes? How should the machinery of government be reformed to turn a growth mission into a practical reality?
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August 6, 2025 • 29 mins
How much harm to the collective solidarity of nations has been done by America’s resurgent nationalism? Can the global economy absorb the costs of Trump’s tariffs without a slump? Is there any case for Trump’s new 50% tariffs on India?
Robert speaks with Philip Coggan, former Economist columnist about his new book The Economic Consequences of Mr Trump.
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August 3, 2025 • 34 mins
What are the repercussions of global trade deals being put together with little to no detail in the actual agreements? How has the US President convinced the European Commission to agree to purchase $600bn worth of US energy products when it doesn’t have the mechanism to do so? Did Trump end up winning his game of "4D chess" with the global markets?
Steph speaks to The Economist’s Wall Street Editor, Mike Bird.
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July 30, 2025 • 36 mins
Why is the fastest growing demographic of shoppers not being properly catered for? What can retailers do to change that and make more money? And why is this important for the whole economy, not just the 15 million people in the UK directly affected by it?
Steph speaks to Heather Jackson CEO of GenM about the economics of the menopause.
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July 27, 2025 • 29 mins
Should Starmer and Reeves worry less about breaching the manifesto to restore growth? How could they have negotiated a better trade deal with the EU to avoid the black hole in the public finances and avoid tax rises? How and why have small businesses been dodging billions of pounds in taxes?
Robert and Steph discuss.
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July 23, 2025 • 27 mins
Why is Hewlett Packard still going after Mike Lynch’s money? Trump wants the US central bank boss out, but will it give him more control over interest rates? And how much are the trade tariffs hurting the US economy?
Steph also finds out whether Robert’s predictions about 2025 are right after he said it would be the most influential year of our lives.
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July 20, 2025 • 38 mins
Is the British Business Bank taking enough risk to close the funding gap that holds back UK enterprises? How do we stop the unicorns relocating to the US? Do we need a new name for and whole new approach to pension savings?
Steph and Robert talk to the government-owned bank’s chair Stephen Welton about what he’ll do with all the extra billions Rachel Reeves has allocated him to support small businesses.
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July 16, 2025 • 28 mins
Will ads promoting investing make more people take the risk? Is removing the ring fencing of retail and investment banking a good thing? How did the credit crunch affect our animal spirits?
Following the chancellor’s Mansion House speech to the City, Robert and Steph discuss the pros and cons.
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July 13, 2025 • 34 mins
Why is the UK lagging behind other countries when it comes to our debt and budget deficit? Did austerity help or hurt — and was there a better way? And with major events like Brexit and Covid, was our economic slump unavoidable?
Steph and Robert chat with the outgoing boss of the Institute for Fiscal Studies, Paul Johnson, for a deep dive into the UK’s public finances. And to find out what he thinks a fair and effective tax sys...
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July 9, 2025 • 46 mins
Why is the OBR warning that the UK is heading towards fiscal catastrophe? Will Rachel Reeves put up all the wrong taxes in the autumn budget? Are the fiscal rules compatible with growing the economy?
Steph and Robert drill into the UK’s public finances crisis with Paul Johnson, who this week is standing down as the head of the Institute for Fiscal Studies and has been judge and jury of the nation’s Chancellors since 2011.
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July 6, 2025 • 35 mins
Is it healthy that 70% of the rise in British people’s wealth over the past 30 years has come from our homes? How do we direct more of our savings in to productive businesses? Should our homes be liable for capital gains tax?
Steph and Robert talk to Conservative MP and former Minister for Security, Tom Tugendhat about his radical ideas to end the British obsession with home ownership.
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July 2, 2025 • 41 mins
Why has welfare reform got so many MPs crying? How much of a problem are the fiscal rules? Can the Labour Party stick with their election winning manifesto?
After a dramatic couple of days Robert and Steph discuss how they got here and what happens next.
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June 29, 2025 • 38 mins
Why do governments lie about how we will be bankrupted by pension and health costs in 30 years? How can we persuade young people to start saving now to avert this catastrophe? And why is saving cash not enough?
Robert and Steph speak to Karen Ward, Chief Market Strategist at JP Morgan Asset Management about her new and terrifying research into Britain’s savings crisis.
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