Housing Insiders
The housing market is wonky. From policy changes to financial innovations to pilot projects that make housing more plentiful and affordable, there's a ton of "inside baseball" to discuss and take action on. Each episode, hear the latest developments and trends in home building and home financing - from "sticks-and-bricks" to AI - and learn what you can do to improve the housing industry. Hosted by housing market thought leaders Jonathan Lawless and Jeremy Potter, and featuring interviews with disruptive guests across the housing industry. If you want to see everyone well-housed, tune in. Jonathan Lawless has spent his career promoting innovative solutions to expand access to credit and affordable housing, serving in leadership roles at Fannie Mae and Pathway Homes. He is currently the Head of Homeownership at Bilt Rewards, the first loyalty program that allows customers to earn points when paying their rent. Jeremy Potter is an attorney who led Quicken Loans' Capital Markets Strategy and Innovation team. He also served as General Counsel and Chief Compliance Officer at Norcom Mortgage and currently is Chief Strategist for IncentiFind, connecting real estate developers with green energy incentives.
Episodes
Tidalwave Co-Founder & CEO Diane Yu joins Jonathan & Jeremy on this episode of Housing Insiders to chat using AI to remove the bottlenecks in the mortgage process. Tidalwave is your 24/7 AI-native loan assistant, handling data entry, document reviewing, and loan processing for both lenders & borrowers. Hear the aspects of AI that can become gamechangers in the mortgage space, how Tidalwave integrates into t...
Vellum Mortgage Principal Patrick Gardner joins Jonathan & Jeremy as a returning guest (without bourbon this time) on this episode of Housing Insiders for Part 2 of Mortgage Month to discuss how AI can improve the mortgage process. Patrick founded Vellum Mortgage to provide transparency and speed to borrowers. Hear how technology & AI can make mortgages easier and more accessible for all, the top AI use cases i...
Prosperity Home Mortgage President & CEO Justin Messer joins Jonathan & Jeremy on this episode of Housing Insiders for Part 1 of Mortgage Month to chat achieving customer satisfaction as a mortgage lender. Prosperity Home Mortgage is a full-service mortgage banker specializing in residential & refinance loans. Hear how they focus on their customer in the complicated mortgage world, the biggest challenges in...
Dynex Capital Chairman & Co-CEO Byron Boston and Co-CEO & President Smriti Popenoe join Jonathan & Jeremy on this episode of Housing Insiders to chat the intersection of capital markets & housing, and the role of REITs (real estate investment trusts). Dynex Capital proudly leads the way in mortgage real estate investing, turning residential & commercial real estate into powerful drivers of compellin...
eXp Realty CEO Leo Pareja joins Jonathan & Jeremy on this episode of Housing Insiders to chat why real estate agents aren't going anywhere anytime soon, plus the latest happenings in the real estate brokerage world. eXp Realty is the largest independent real estate brokerage in the world. Hear what's actually happening with pocket listings, how the real estate agent experience is changing with technology, what's st...
We're almost halfway through 2026. What did we get right? What did we get wrong? What would've been impossible for us to predict? What should we be thinking about for the 2nd half of 2026? These are the questions Jeremy answers to start off this special look back at our 2025 recap & 2026 predictions for the housing industry, originally released in early January 2026. Enjoy!
Another crazy year, an...
Cloud Apartments Chief Operating Officer Apoorva Pasricha joins Jonathan & Jeremy on this episode of Housing Insiders to chat using tech, partners, and a smart business model to provide an enduring solution for modular housing. Cloud Apartments reduces the cost of multifamily development through intelligent modular design & delivery. Hear why many modular housing companies fail, where their time & cost savi...
Author, Washington Examiner Senior Political Columnist, and American Enterprise Institute (AEI) Senior Fellow Tim Carney joins Jonathan & Jeremy on this episode of Housing Insiders to chat the ties between the baby bust & housing crisis in the US. Tim's latest book is Family Unfriendly: How Our Culture Made Raising Kids Much Harder Than It Needs to Be. Hear whether the baby bust is a housing issue at its core,...
Gilbert Family Foundation & Rocket Community Fund Executive Director Laura Grannemann joins Jonathan & Jeremy on this episode of Housing Insiders to discuss housing lessons for the US based on their work in Detroit. The Gilbert Family Foundation (GFF) exists to accelerate a cure for NF1 and grow opportunity and equity in Detroit and our home cities, and the Rocket Community Fund aims to simplify complex and ine...
Homa CEO & Co-Founder Arman Javaherian - a former Senior Director at Zillow - joins Jonathan & Jeremy on this episode of Housing Insiders to discuss disrupting the real estate agent segment with AI. Homa replaces the traditional buyer's agent, combining AI with expert support while returning up to 2% of the purchase price back. They allow you to buy a home without a realtor. Hear why there historically hasn't b...
And just like that, we're back with a Bonus Episode covering more breaking news in housing! In this episode of Housing Insiders, returning guest Jeb Mason of public policy consultancy Mindset joins Jonathan & Jeremy to break down Trump's 2 executive orders related to housing affordability & mortgage credit. Hear what inspired these 2 executive orders in the first place, the impact they'll have on housing supply...
Baker Donelson Shareholder Kara Ward joins Jonathan & Jeremy on this episode of Housing Insiders to discuss the 21st Century ROAD to Housing Act, which the Senate recently passed. Hear the most impactful provisions in the bill, why it's being portrayed as anti-investor, the areas where it could actually hurt housing supply, the potential big wins for modular housing, and what the bill means for zoning & buildin...
Congrats on surviving the AI crisis. In this episode of Housing Insiders, Jonathan & Jeremy take a stab at AI doomsday from a housing lens, inspired by The 2028 Global Intelligence Crisis by Alap Shah & Citrini Research. Hear whether AI will make housing tech & human intelligence worthless, what tasks AI will help us finally get done in housing finance, why we're in one of the most protectionist industries,...
In this Bonus Episode of Housing Insiders, Jeremy Potter continues the conversation with Prosperity Now's Chrissi Johnson and Nestment's Niles Lichtenstein about the fate of the starter home. The trio's new report, The Starter Home Is Dead. Now What?, is a eulogy to a bygone era of traditional homeownership, but it also offers hope to buyers still trying to get into the market. Whether it's shared equity or rent-vesti...
It's a Housing Insiders month unlike any other. This month, we're sharing a 2-part series on shared equity, featuring models that allow consumers to do something besides just renting or owning a home, but sharing. In Part 2, you'll hear Jonathan & Jeremy interview Homium CEO Marcus Martin and Crib Equity Co-Founder & CEO Skye Laudari. Homium partners with state and local HFAs, municipalities, and nonprofits to ...
It's a Housing Insiders month unlike any other. This month, we're sharing a 2-part series on shared equity, featuring models that allow consumers to do something besides just renting or owning a home, but sharing. In Part 1, you'll hear Jonathan & Jeremy introduce the concept & key terminology of shared home equity, followed by interviews with Ownify Founder & CEO Frank Rohde and Cedar Co-Founder & CEO ...
Former Coldwell Banker CEO and now btcRE Founder Ryan Gorman spends his time turning stubborn buildings into productive, community‑anchored assets. In this episode of Housing Insiders, Ryan joins Jonathan and Jeremy to talk candidly about what it really takes to make a redevelopment pencil out today: juggling design and finance, deciding whether becoming a developer is still worth it, why it's so hard to build anything...
Jeremy Potter picks up the solo hosting duties in this Bonus Episode of Housing Insiders live from the 2025 Prosperity Summit. He was on a panel with Niles Lichtenstein, the Co-Founder & CEO of Nestment - the team of first-time homebuying experts. In this session, they tackle the death of the starter home and what first-time homebuyers can actually do to get in the home equity game. Hear the history of the starter ...
Another crazy year, another crazy year in the housing industry. In this special episode of Housing Insiders, Jonathan & Jeremy look back at how their 2025 housing predictions fared and reveal their housing predictions for 2026. Hear what excites them about innovation in the housing industry, how AI will impact lending this year, the housing policy changes that may or may not finally happen, a lightning round of hou...
It's the most wonderful time of the year, so we naturally had to get something off our chest. In this special episode of Housing Insiders, Jeremy plays solo host and Jonathan plays guest, bringing his Christmas Wish List for FHFA Director Bill Pulte and the GSEs. It's an extra passion-filled episode that reveals Jonathan's biggest wish for 2026, the creation of a GSE-backed construction loan. The Build My Home Mortgage...
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