4th And Forever
4th And Forever is an American Football Podcast featuring Darren Butter and Stuart Bothwell - two Scotsmen who live in New Zealand and have an unhealthy obsession with American Football. Contact the lads on 4thAndForeverFootball@gmail.com or search for 4th And Forever Podcast on Facebook.
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Block... BLOCK... bLoCk!... BLOOOOCK!!! And thus concludes my interprative poetry recital of Week 3 of the 2025 NFL Season.
4-Back: Rams @ Eagles Jets @ Bucs Broncos @ Chargers Lions @ Ravens 4-Ward: Vikings @ Steelers (in Dublin) Eagles @ Bucs Ravens @ Chiefs Packers @ Cowboys
Hang on a minute! Two episodes back to back that follow roughly the same format?! That REEKS of consistency - very UN-4thAndForever of us!
4-Back: Cowboys @ Giants Pats @ Dolphins Broncos @ Colts Bucs @ Texans 4-Ward: Rams @ Eagles Lions @ Ravens Cardinals @ 49eres Steelers @ Pats
Call the pulmonologist, because that week 1 has left us BREATHLESS! Another chop and change for our format, because we like to keep you on your toes. It's the "4 Back - 4 Foward". 4 Back:
Vikings @ Bears Ravens @ Bills Steelers @ Jets Chiefs "@" Chargers (in Sao Paolo)
4 Forward:
Eagles @ Chiefs Commanders @ Packers Jaguars @ Bengals Broncos @ Colts
In order to contain our excitement, let's keep this short: Football. Is. Back. So. Are. We. Sucks. To. Be. You. Key Games: Bucs @ Falcons Broncos @ Titans (a lil Giants @ Commanders) Lions @ Packers Ravens @ Bills (a lil Miami Dolphins peppered in there too)
In the BIGGEST news of today, Stuart and Darren got together in an online studio again for the first time since... now when was it...? I dunno, something happened back in Feb.
Who are some of the players that the guys are excited to see some more of in the 25-26 season?
Also: - WEDDINGS - Cowboy (Contract) Builders - QB Carousel - ZERO comparisons to Jags ownership and Fulham FC ownership *ahem!*
After an excellent and very varied slate of Divisional games, we now turn to the final four with two incredibly juicy match-ups full of intrigue, narratives and...
... oh I just got flagged for not having mentioned the Chiefs yet. 15 yard penalty on the Bills. Automatic 1st down...
Commanders @ Eagles Bills @ Chiefs
Contrary to popular belief, Darren has not perished! He hath returned with insight for the upcoming Divisional Round games and the occassional look over the shoulder to what came before in the Wildcard Round. News: - Pats fire former Pro Bowl linebacker and hire former Pro Bowl linebacker - Cowboys move on from Mike McCarthy just in time for there to be noone left to replace him - Browns need a QB... duh
Games: Texans @ Chie...
After taking some time out to recover, watch Hamilton vs Partick Thistle then being distracted by an episode of Still Game followed by a Best of Only An Excuse... the boy has only gone and pulled the NFC Super Wild Card Preview out of his behind!
IT'S SOMETHING! Stuart returns to bash out the AFC Super Wild Card Round match-ups before a throat issue knocks him out of action. Will he return for the NFC? Who knows? Do you care? Maybe? Are repeated questions a cheap writing device? Almost certainly yes.
Week 10 gave us a heap more one score games, and a number of shocks. But most of all... it gave us... DA RIZZ! And yes, that IS the real shape of his head. Can't wait to do a full feature on him if he keeps going like this.
The 5th of November 2024 is no doubt an incredibly important day. Millions across America and BILLIONS across the world have their eyes transfixed on the U-S of A. The time for conjecture is behind us. Now is the time for Americans to stand up...
... and tell us what they think about Za'Darius Smith going to Detroit.
THIS IS YOUR POLITICS FREE ZONE, FOLKS! Come on in to the 4th and Forever Podcast!
Firstly: New podcast audio recording software is a-go! Let us know what you think!
Week 8 threw up a slew of shock results, wacky finishes and story lines that will keep us satisfied until... well... week 9!
If you thought Darren's audio problems couldn't get any worse then last week, then you were SORELY mistaken! Now that I've hooked you in with a reason to test your ability to listen to someone speak into a microphone submerged in syrup between two Tempur mattresses (not a sponsor... yet), week 7 was an interesting one, wasn't it?! Key games: Detroit @ Minnesota Kansas City @ San Francisco
"Hey everybody! Darren's back! :D" ...*inaudible grumbling*...
He may have forgotten how to appropriately record audio for a podcast, but he hasn't forgotten how to bring the heat when it comes to the NFL chat.
Playing with a new recap formula, you end up hearing a lot of Stuart in this one. Man he loves himself, eh? Anyway, DAVANTE ADAMS WAS TRADED TO THE JETS!
SO LONG SALEH! With a bomb dropped in the hours leading up to recording, Stuart brought in the elder statesman - Steve Bothwell - once again to break down the crazy goings on in New Jersey!
Since Stuart and Stevie B were both preoccupied over the weekend, it's a swift run through week 4, but it's brand new seg time. "Are You For Real?!"
With Darren away again (and very much enjoying the fact that he has Jayden Daniels retained in our fantasy league for the next 4 years!), up steps Papa Both to the plate once again to assist Stuart in providing your weekly dose of NFL blethering. Key Week 3 Games:
Texans @ Vikings Saints @ Eagles 49ers @ Rams Bengals @ Commanders
Key Week 4 Games:
Bengals @ Panthers Broncos @ Jets Commanders @ Cardinals Bills @ Ravens
..."Substitution for 4th and Forever: Coming off, number 2 - Darren Butter. He will be replaced by number 51 - Steve Bothwell" *RAPTUROUS APPLAUSE!* Everyone loves a super-sub! In at the last minute for the week 2 recap/week 3 preview, fresh off the plane from his holiday, it's Papa Bothwell!
Expect references to Lord Lucan and horrendously depressive diatribes on the fortunes of the Broncos. HIT IT!
Week 1 of the 2024 NFL season is - as the cliche goes - IN THE BOOKS!
Stuart and Darren talk Ravens toes, Bengals woes and many more contests between foes! Sorry, I felt I had to keep the rhyme going. There is also a debut of a new segment of whimsy around the 2 minute mark!
Focus Games: 49ers @ Vikings Lions @ Bucs Steelers @ Broncos Bengals @ Chiefs
HOLY FRIJOLES! We thought it would never arrive! Week 1 of the 2024 NFL season is ACTUALLY here! Stuart and Darren get to talk about actual, meaningful games full of genuine intriuge - and they couldn't be happier! WELCOME TO THE 2024 SEASON!
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