Counsel Cast

Counsel Cast

Law school prepares you for legal battles, but a law degree is not enough to win in the marketplace. The legal industry presents marketing challenges unlike those found elsewhere, and therefore you need to equip yourself with the best digital marketing practices to achieve meaningful results. You must start moving beyond usual tactics and implement strategies that align with your goals. You require experienced representation to help you navigate the twists and turns of a complex battle for clients. This is where the Counsel Cast comes in. This podcast provides clear, actionable answers to the most difficult marketing questions for your law firm so you can achieve more. This is for every law firm in search of a team who not only has a profound grasp of the intricacies of the legal field but also brings a distinctive blend of creativity and strategic vision essential for mastering the ever-evolving landscape of online marketing. An extension of the Conroy Creative Counsel’s Marketing Co-Counsel® Program, this show breaks down the winning strategy you need to confidently launch or expand your firm. Each week, discover how to strategically position yourself for expanded reach with local and national markets using impactful design, thought leadership, and effective digital marketing tactics. Tune in to engaging episodes that have captivated lawyers worldwide industry experts, seasoned marketers, and legal professionals share their insights, experiences, and strategies that drive success in legal marketing. Discover how to identify your needs and formulate a strategic plan, ensuring your marketing efforts are effectively aligned with your firm’s goals. Learn comprehensive branding approaches that will secure successful results. Boost your search rank and revenue by modernizing your law firm’s website using intricate SEO practices. Of course, find out how to unify your marketing approach under a single strategy to create sustainable momentum and growth Providing deeper insights and knowledge to make your law firm the best it could ever be is the show’s Thought Leaders’ Library, consisting of book recommendations from the guests themselves. These must-read books will impart you with the necessary insights and advice every lawyer must know and take to heart. Your host is legal marketing consultant Karin Conroy, founder of Conroy Creative Counsel. Karin and her team’s goal is to enhance the success of the clients she works with through a proven online marketing process. She doesn‘t leave the success of her projects up to creative chance but uses measurable systems that result in more reach and revenue through strategic branding and positioning. Karin brings to the show more than just an understanding of which marketing strategies work in today’s vast online space. More than that, she draws upon her extensive background in legal marketing and infuses it with deep insights, innovative approaches, and practical tactics tailored specifically for law firms aiming to excel. Her signature approach is born from her MBA from the University of California, insights developed over several years of corporate marketing, and broad experience over more than a decade serving the legal industry. Karin’s experience allows her to navigate the challenges and opportunities of digital marketing, ensuring a transformative creative representation that will propel every law firm toward unparalleled growth and success. Engage, expand, and elevate your firm with custom tailored solutions. Join Karin, uncovering the best marketing strategies you can implement right now. Gather the best insights and advice from her expert guests with interesting stories and invaluable advice. This is your chance to elevate your reputation, and become the growth-minded firm you want to be. Listen to these thought-provoking, informative, and exciting episodes today and unleash the full potential of your law firm.

Episodes

October 14, 2025 38 mins

In this episode of Counsel Cast, host Karin Conroy sits down with Rachel Allen, founder of Bolt from the Blue Copywriting, to unpack the neuroscience of human connection, and why sounding like a real person is the secret advantage in modern law firm marketing.

They dive deep into the psychology of trust, exploring why generic, AI-sounding copy destroys credibility and how to write in your authentic “coffee shop” and “4 AM” voice, th...

  • In this episode of Counsel Cast Chambers, key moments are revisited from a conversation with branding expert Stephanie Riel. 

    The discussion centers around how effective branding for law firms goes beyond aesthetics, delving into the importance of consistency, clarity, and psychology in building emotional connections with clients. Stephanie explains how different branding elements, like logo design, wording, and fonts, must ali...

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    In this episode, I’m joined by Reid Holmes, dubbed as a 'marketing therapist,' sharing insights from his 30-year career in branding, strategy, and advertising. 

    He discusses the concept of 'Appreciated Branding' from his bestseller and how it focuses on creating meaningful connections rather than intrusive marketing. Reid contrasts traditional advertising's interruptive nature with modern approaches that emphasize value and emo...

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    In this episode of Counsel Cast Chambers, we revisit key insights from our conversation with Cindy Chang, focused on using brand personality to connect with the right clients and stand out in a crowded market. 

    Cindy provides actionable advice on defining your firm's voice, creating emotional resonance, and building a brand that attracts your ideal audience. The discussion also covers the importance of balancing reputation and ...

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    In this episode, I’m joined by Jake Isham, CEO of Creative Minds, to talk about the significance of omnipresence in the digital landscape, especially for lawyers. 

    He emphasizes the importance of being visible on multiple social media platforms and leveraging AI tools for content creation. Jake outlines strategies for building trust through consistent, high-quality content and the role of patience and perseverance in marketing....

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    In this episode of Counsel Cast Chambers, we cover how law firms can dominate local SEO with insights from Stormy Knight, an expert in the field.

    Listeners learn about the importance of the Google Business Profile, reviews, directories, and on-page SEO to stand out in local searches. Stormy explains the evolution of the “three pack,” why proximity to the searcher matters most, and how virtual offices can navigate Google’s ever-chang...

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    In this episode, I’m joined by TJ Robertson, founder of TJ Digital, who brings over a decade of SEO expertise and a fresh focus on AI-driven digital marketing strategies. 

    We discuss the evolution of SEO in the age of AI, the transformative impact of large language models like ChatGPT, and how law firms can leverage AI to rank higher in search results. 

    The conversation also delves into practical tips for creating content t...

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    In this episode, the focus is on attracting clients through the deliberate cultivation of brand personality in this Counsel Cast Chambers episode with Kaye Putnam. 

    Emphasizing findings from a Harvard study, which shows that 95% of human decisions are made on a subconscious emotional level, the discussion underscores the importance of integrating emotion into brand communication.

    Listeners are introduced to the concept of brand...

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    In this episode, digital marketing expert Matt Bailey joins me to discuss the importance of tracking the right metrics for law firms and outlines a content strategy that works. 

    With 30 years of experience, Matt explains the pitfalls of focusing on the wrong metrics and shares insights into creating an efficient analytics strategy. He emphasizes the need to understand what metrics are truly valuable by connecting them with actu...

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    In this episode, we’re joined by Simona Costantini to dive deep into the various ways to monetize your podcast, starting with traditional sponsorships. Discussing common challenges and industry standards, we explore effective sponsorship strategies based on your podcast's niche and target audience. 

    Additionally, we cover alternative revenue streams such as self-sponsorship through promoting your own products or services, utili...

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    In this episode, I’m joined by Jed Morley, CEO of Backstory, to explore how branding and scaling are interconnected, particularly for law firms. They discuss common misconceptions that professional services firms have about marketing, stressing that quality service alone isn't enough to attract new clients.

    We delve into the importance of targeted messaging, understanding your ideal client, and adaptive marketing strategies. Practi...

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    In this episode of Counsel Cast Chambers, we delve into the pros and cons of building your own law firm website with insights from legal tech pioneer Jack Newton.

    The discussion explores common pitfalls law firms encounter when handling web design solo, such as performance, security, content strategy, and client experience.

    Jack provides guidance on whether a DIY approach is pragmatic or counterproductive, particularly weighing cos...

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    In this episode, Jorge Olson, an experienced marketer and author of several books including 'Wholesale MBA Marketing Karma' and 'Build Your Beverage Empire,' shares his extensive knowledge on branding, especially for law firms.

    He emphasizes the importance of personal branding over company branding, explaining how executives should brand themselves to build trust and recognition. The discussion delves into the evolution of branding...

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    In this episode of Counsel Cast Chambers, we’re joined by Pete Everitt to talk about the complex world of SEO, dispelling common myths and shedding light on its realities.

    We discuss the historical poor reputation of SEO practices and emphasize the importance of playing by Google's rules, given its dominance in the search engine market. The conversation highlights the 512 variables in Google's SEO algorithm and the challenges posed...

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    In this episode, Michael Buckbee, co-founder of Knowatoa, discusses how AI search is reshaping the landscape of SEO for law firms. 

    The conversation delves into the basics of AI search, particularly focusing on Google's AI overviews, and the impact on search queries and SEO strategies. Michael explains the importance of understanding AI, chat, and traditional search volumes and offers practical advice on adapting to these chang...

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    In this episode of Counsel Cast Chambers, marketing strategist Tanya Brody discusses the prevalent mistakes law firms make in their email marketing strategies. 

    From targeting the wrong audience to sharing irrelevant credentials and using overly sophisticated language, Tanya highlights the key pitfalls that lead to ineffective email communication. 

    She also provides actionable tips on how to craft compelling emails that res...

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    In this episode, Caroline Langdon from Impact Media House shares her expertise in social media strategy. The conversation covers simple social strategies and productivity techniques to sustainably grow your brand without burnout. 

    Caroline also discusses the importance of overcoming initial 'cringe' feelings about posting on social media to see long-term benefits. The discussion further dives into creating a social media strate...

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    In this episode of Counsel Cast Chambers, we explore essential first steps for law firms to delve into local SEO with Ross McDaniel. 

    Ross recommends claiming and optimizing a Google Business Profile and soliciting five-star reviews from past clients as pivotal free strategies. Illustrating the impact, the guest shares a success story of a chiropractor who achieved a top ranking in Google Maps within ten days. 

    The discussi...

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    In this episode, Joaby Parker, Founder and Chief Marketing Officer of Cover3 Creative Advertising Agency, discusses how to prevent wasting marketing dollars and achieve substantial growth using sound marketing principles. 

    Joaby introduces the concept of a Fractional CMO and differentiates it from a Marketing Director. He emphasizes the importance of a long-term, detailed marketing plan and shares a strategic planning framework...

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    In this episode of Counsel Cast Chambers, Monica Pitts discusses the importance of viewing your website as a key member of your sales team, acting as your first receptionist and salesperson. 

    We explore how the sales cycle has evolved, with potential clients seeking solutions online rather than in person. The episode emphasizes the need to understand whether your clients come to you with awareness of their issues or with specif...

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