Holy Curiosity with Kat Armstrong
Holy Curiosity is a podcast from the Center for Women in Leadership highlighting the genius storytelling of God. In every episode, we'll explore storied connections threaded throughout scripture from the Old Testament to the New. My hope is that these stories will spark a holy curiosity in your own faith because once you see these connections, you can't unsee them. God wastes no person, place, or thing.
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April 4, 2025 • 39 mins
Moses and Deborah emerge as powerful parallel figures in biblical leadership, both serving as judges and prophets who guided Israel through critical moments of crisis. Their stories reveal remarkable similarities in how they confronted oppression, witnessed cosmic water events, and demonstrated God's faithfulness through decisive action and victory songs.
By reflecting on their leadership, the narrative challenges traditional gender...
By reflecting on their leadership, the narrative challenges traditional gender...
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March 28, 2025 • 32 mins
Throughout Scripture, key figures often echo those who came before them, creating a tapestry of themes and patterns that lead us toward Jesus. One of the most fascinating comparisons in the Old Testament is between Moses and Deborah. While Deborah is often recognized as a judge and prophet, her role is much deeper—she is a Second Moses, a deliverer raised up by God for her generation. Here are five key similarities they share:
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March 21, 2025 • 22 mins
Deborah was a remarkable leader in the Old Testament, serving as a prophet, judge, and military strategist for the nation of Israel. In this episode, Dr. Nijay Gupta joins host Kat Armstrong to explore Deborah's story and significance. They discuss how Deborah's leadership challenges common stereotypes about women in the Bible and how her example as a bold, Spirit-filled woman can inspire and empower believers today. Dr. Gupta also...
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Rev. Dr. Charlie Dates and Dr. Michelle Knight join Holy Curiosity to share their pastoral and scholarly insights into the biblical figure of Moses and his leadership role as a judge. From his early years in Egypt to his 40-year preparation in what Charlie describes as the "seminary of solitude," Moses emerges as a heroic yet relatable figure whose journey epitomizes divine intervention and the struggle for justice. Charlie's refle...
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March 7, 2025 • 3 mins
In Season 2 of Holy Curiosity, we're going to uncover the powerful connection between Moses and Deborah through their shared leadership role: delivering judge. Most Bible readers overlook or minimize Deborah’s role in the nation of ancient Israel. This is not only a slight to Deborah but also to the great leader Moses. You see, Moses shared Deborah’s passion for her people, her devotion to righteousness and justice, and her commitm...
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Episode content warning: This episode contains content related to sexual assault.
Reverend Doctor Nicole Massie Martin joins Holy Curiosity to interview Kat Armstrong and ask: What does the Bible have to say about abuse toward women? You'll hear about the importance of studying challenging scriptures on trauma and abuse head-on, rather than avoiding them, because engaging with these stories can lead to healing and a more honest fait...
Reverend Doctor Nicole Massie Martin joins Holy Curiosity to interview Kat Armstrong and ask: What does the Bible have to say about abuse toward women? You'll hear about the importance of studying challenging scriptures on trauma and abuse head-on, rather than avoiding them, because engaging with these stories can lead to healing and a more honest fait...
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April 5, 2024 • 49 mins
Dinah and the Samaritan Woman have been interpreted many different ways by founding church fathers and theologians, and we inherit those interpretations. Kat welcomes Biblical scholars Drs. Beth Allison Barr and Sandra Glahn to process the interpretations of these early theologians–known as the Patristic fathers, and reformation leaders. Dr. Sandra Glahn is a Professor of Media Arts and Worship at Dallas Theological Seminary and au...
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February 23, 2024 • 32 mins
Kat is joined by Cheryl Luke, a pastor and communicator, for a vulnerable conversation about how Bible readers need to process the storyline of Shechem. Together, Kat and Cherl expose the complexities of trauma, abuse, and highlight the transformative power of faith. The episode offers a raw conversation, urging listeners to reflect on their own experiences and find hope in the midst of pain. Episode Content Warning: This episode c...
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February 16, 2024 • 44 mins
Holy Curiosity welcomes Rev. Dr. Jackie Roese again, as well as scholar Dr. Lynn Cohick as they provide a fresh perspective on a disciple of Jesus that’s often misunderstood. Jackie emphasizes the Samaritan woman’s significance as a marginalized figure, facing societal judgment due to her ethnicity, gender, and personal history and Dr. Cohick challenges the misconceptions surrounding the woman, debunking the idea that she was a pro...
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February 9, 2024 • 48 mins
Kat welcomes Dr. Tim Mackie to trace Shechem, from Genesis to John. Dr. Mackie–one of the creators of The Bible Project– traces Shechem's narrative thread, revealing places in the Bible carry profound meaning for ancient and modern Bible readers. Together, Kat and Tim uncover God's storytelling genius, showcasing Shechem as a location repurposed by many Biblical authors for literary impact. Episode Content Warning: This episode con...
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February 2, 2024 • 39 mins
Kat Armstrong interviews Dr. Diane Langberg, a renowned psychologist and trauma expert, shedding light on the challenges of addressing abuse in the Scriptures. Dr. Langberg has sat with, and counseled, countless victims of trauma, violence, rape, and war. She’s studied people groups who’ve been crushed, oppressed and enslaved. She’s explored the sewer system of suffering and written to tell of it. And she doesn’t back down or hold ...
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January 26, 2024 • 30 mins
Part 1 of the Shechem Storyline welcomes Rev. Dr. Jackie Roese to explore the stories of two women, Dinah and the Woman at the Well. Despite living centuries apart, these two women are connected through their hometown, Shechem. This episode explores the lingering effect that pain and trauma can have on a place. And it’s about how Jesus brings redemption to places of pain and brokenness in Bible times and in our lives as well. Episo...
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January 13, 2024 • 3 mins
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