In the Test Kitchen

In the Test Kitchen

Step into the Test Kitchen with Dan Souza and his co-host for an interview-based video podcast that celebrates the joy of food, cooking, and what happens behind the scenes at America’s Test Kitchen. Each episode is a mix of expert insights, personal anecdotes, and lively discussions with guests from the culinary world and beyond.

Episodes

Grace Young on Championing Chinatowns

November 26, 2025 • 39 mins
In this episode of In the Test Kitchen, host Dan Souza and co-host Lan Lam welcome cookbook author, culinary historian, and stir-fry guru Grace Young to discuss her work as a fierce advocate for Chinatowns across the country. Grace reflects on how, as a young girl, she was inspired by Julia Child—a spark that eventually led her to publish her first cookbook, The Wisdom of the Chinese Kitchen. She also shares the story of her now-ic...
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Rick Martinez Hates the Word "Authentic"

November 12, 2025 • 42 mins
In this episode of In the Test Kitchen, host Lan Lam and co-host Nik Sharma welcome chef and author Rick Martinez to talk about his vibrant new cookbook, Salsa Daddy. Rick opens up about the creative process behind the book and the challenges of bringing a deeply personal project to life. The conversation moves from his Texas roots and early food memories to reflections on family, legacy, and how recipes can carry the stories of th...
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Roy Choi’s Recipe for Redemption: From The Sporkful Podcast

November 10, 2025 • 44 mins
Today's episode is from our friends atThe Sporkful podcast and features Chef Roy Choi, the man behind the legendary Kogi Korean taco truck and a pioneer of the gourmet food truck movement. Host Dan Pashman sits down with Chef Choi for a wide-ranging conversation about his unlikely path to success, the power of food to create community, and the TV moment that changed his life forever. Listen to our episode of In the Test Kitchen w...
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Dan Pashman Hates Spaghetti

October 29, 2025 • 51 mins
Host Dan Souza and co-host Lisa McManus welcome Dan Pashman, host of The Sporkful podcast and creator of the viral pasta shape cascatelli. Filmed on the Cook’s Country set, the trio dives deep into the world of pasta design, exploring what makes a perfect noodle and how texture, sauce-holding power, and mouthfeel come together in the ultimate bite. No matter how you feel spaghetti as a pasta shape, our recipe for Spaghetti All'Ass...
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Lidey Heuck Loves Grocery Shopping

October 15, 2025 • 47 mins
Host Dan Souza and co-host Morgan Bolling welcome food writer and recipe developer Lidey Heuck. Lidey shares stories from her new cookbook Cooking In Real Life and reflects on the lessons she learned working alongside Ina Garten. They also dive into rice crispy treats, swapping their favorite variations and debating the best way to make this nostalgic classic. Order Lidey's cookbook, Cooking In Real Life, here! Learn more about yo...
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Marina Mabrey Creates Chaos in the Kitchen

October 1, 2025 • 41 mins
Join host Dan Souza and co-host Morgan Bolling for a special conversation with Marina Mabrey of the WNBA’s Connecticut Sun. Marina opens up about overcoming adversity on the court and how an injury led her to discover a new passion in cooking. She shares the ways food became a source of inspiration and healing, along with the favorite dishes she looks for while traveling during the season. Trying to find a way to sneak vegetables ...
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Jessica B. Harris Travels with Food History and Cotton Candy

September 17, 2025 • 38 mins
Dan Souza and co-host Elle Simone sit down with culinary historian Dr. Jessica B. Harris to talk about her new book, Braided Heritage. They explore the foundational food cultures of the Americas: Native, European, and African, and how these influences shaped the way we cook and eat today. Dr. Harris shares her love of okra, the surprising story of her beginnings as an English teacher, and her fondness for Schoolhouse Rock. She also...
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Dorie Greenspan Thinks the Simpler the Cake, the Better.

September 3, 2025 • 45 mins
Dan Souza and co-host Nik Sharma sit down with the legendary baker and author Dorie Greenspan to talk about her new book, Dorie’s Anytime Cakes. They dive into what makes a cake special enough for celebration versus perfect for every day, reminisce about the Darth Vader cake Dorie once baked for her son’s fourth birthday, and share the secret to achieving truly great pie dough. Pre-Order Dorie Greenspan's new cookbook; Dorie's A...
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Meathead Weighs In on the Great Burger-Pressing Debate

August 20, 2025 • 42 mins
Dan Souza and co-host Bryan Roof welcome legendary BBQ expert Meathead to talk all things grilling. From his new book to the age-old debate about pressing burgers on the grill, Meathead shares his take on the tips, tricks, and myths that every backyard cook should know. The conversation covers whether pressing burgers is a good idea, the best types of smoke to cook with, how to properly heat a wok, and a variety of other grilling t...
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Gesine Bullock-Prado Loves Cheese with Apple Pie

August 6, 2025 • 40 mins
Pastry chef, homesteader, and author Gesine Bullock-Prado joins Dan Souza and Morgan Bolling In the Test Kitchen to talk comfort food, homesteading in Vermont, and the science behind perfect pie crust. From chicken and rice to jalapeño popper grilled cheese, they explore easy weeknight recipes before diving into Gesine’s journey from Hollywood to homesteading, and how her German-American roots and love of baking shape her latest bo...
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Aran Goyoaga on the Art of Gluten-Free Baking

July 23, 2025 • 33 mins
Dan Souza and Lan Lam welcome cookbook author Aran Goyoaga for a conversation about her journey from a pastry-filled childhood in the Basque Country in Spain, to becoming a leader in gluten-free baking. They discuss the craft of recipe development, the challenges of gluten-free bread, and Aran’s inspiration for her forthcoming cookbook, which will be out in September. Pre-order Aran Goyoaga's book ⁠The Art of Gluten-Free Bread⁠; ...
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Vallery Lomas and the Great American Baking Show

July 9, 2025 • 40 mins
Winner of The Great American Baking Show and cookbook author Vallery Lomas joins the Test Kitchen to talk about her early cooking influences growing up in the South, her path from lawyer to baker, and her love of recipe development. From her experience filming competitive cooking shows to writing Life Is What You Bake It and contributing to When Southern Women Cook, Vallery shares the stories behind her recipes and her journey as a...
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Eugene Mirman on the Secret Origin of Bob’s Burgers

June 25, 2025 • 37 mins
Comedian and Bob’s Burgers star Eugene Mirman joins the Test Kitchen to share his love of home cooking, pandemic kitchen hacks, and culinary creativity. From his days as a Food Network spokespotato to the origins of Bob’s Burgers, this episode serves up laughs, food tips, and behind-the-scenes stories. Check out Lan's genius technique for the perfect Sautéed Mushrooms that Dan and Hannah were raving about. Learn more about your a...
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Ben Mims Maps the World in Cookies

June 11, 2025 • 36 mins
In this week's episode: Cookbook author and food editor Ben Mims shares his unconventional path through journalism and culinary school to becoming a celebrated voice in food media. He discusses the making of his new cookbook Crumbs, exploring global cookie traditions, recipe development, and the evolving world of food writing. Check out Ben Mims' book, Crumbs: Cookies and Sweets from Around the World, as well as America's Test Ki...
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Maggie Zhu Is Perfecting Her Shrimp Dumpling Recipe

May 28, 2025 • 34 mins
Dan Souza and Morgan Bolling are the In The Test Kitchen with Maggie Zhu of Omnivore's Cookbook. They dig into how she got her start as a food blogger, her white whale recipes, the dishes she's developing as an Editor in Residence at America's Test Kitchen, and answer questions from the America's Test Kitchen audience. Check out Maggie's book, Chinese Homestyle: Everyday Plant-Based Recipes for Takeout, Dim Sum, Noodles, and More,...
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Maria Bamford Wants Her Savory Muffins

May 14, 2025 • 36 mins
In this week's episode: Comedian Maria Bamford joins Dan Souza and Hannah Crowley in The Test Kitchen. They dig into Maria's time on Worst Cooks In America, share laughs over waiting tables, savory muffins, eating peanut butter straight from the jar, and chat about when it's okay to just eat food off of the floor. We have a recipe for a power bar... that hasn't landed on the subway floor! Check out America's Test Kitchen's websit...
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Nik Sharma's Banana Problem

April 30, 2025 • 45 mins
In this episode of In the Test Kitchen, molecular biologist turned cookbook author and ⁠ATK Resident Editor⁠, Nik Sharma, spills the tea with hosts Dan Souza and Lan Lam. They chat about Nik's love-hate relationship with photography, why ripe bananas are a no-go, and what ingredient they would choose if they could only use one for the rest of their lives. Plus, Lan discusses how she cracked her ⁠San Francisco-style garlic noodles r...
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Matteo Lane Thinks Your Pasta Sucks

April 16, 2025 • 38 mins
America's Test Kitchen's Dan Souza and Elle Simone Scott kick off the premiere episode with comedian Matteo Lane. They chat about the behind-the-scenes making of Matteo's book, Your Pasta Sucks, and discuss why some pasta shapes are superior to others. Find our recipe for corn pudding, Elle's book, Boards, and more at AmericasTestKitchen.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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In The Test Kitchen coming 4/16

March 31, 2025 • 52 secs
Dan Souza and his co-host dig into the latest tastings, recipes, and kitchen conversations happening behind the scenes at America's Test Kitchen. They also bring on guests--from the culinary world and beyond--to talk about what's going on in their lives, and how food plays into it. In the Test Kitchen debuts Wednesday, April 16. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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