Pantsuit Politics
Pantsuit Politics is the news and politics podcast for people exhausted by outrage. Hosts Sarah Stewart Holland and Beth Silvers tackle the week's biggest political stories from genuinely different perspectives, and prove that civility, nuance, and good-faith disagreement are still possible. New episodes every Tuesday and Friday. Distributed by Lemonada Media.
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August 21, 2026 • 64 mins
Beth watched Christopher Nolan's Odyssey this summer and could not stop thinking about it as an extensive metaphor for American politics. We ended up talking about disorientation, the allies we've spit in the eye of, the moment Odysseus blinds the Cyclops he'd already escaped from, and whether America's time has come. Then, Outside of Politics, we're sharing part of our crossover with Knox and Jamie at The Popcast about the odyssey...
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August 18, 2026 • 62 mins
Sarah and Beth are back together after summer break, and they're starting with the question everyone seems to be asking: was this summer the worst? They work through the cyclospora outbreak and what it means to not trust the salad or the information about the salad, the storms that keep coming, the war narrative that changed every forty-eight hours, and the new polling showing Trump losing ground with his strongest supporters. They...
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August 14, 2026 • 44 mins
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August 11, 2026 • 51 mins
Beth is still on vacation, so Sarah drafted a guest co-host she's been married to for 23 years. Sarah and Nicholas run through the headlines — Iran's "low-key" chess game, the cost of absolutely everything, and the Flock cameras multiplying across the country — before digging into the state of the Democratic Party: the DSA's rise, AOC, purity tests, and why Barack Obama is somehow still the party's leader. Then, Outside...
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August 7, 2026 • 69 mins
The breaking news in Sarah's hometown is the breaking news everywhere:
Paducah, Kentucky is getting a $100 billion data center. Sarah is joined
by Lacey Bowling, head of Paducah Cooperative Ministries, to talk about
what the anti-data center backlash gets right and wrong — water, power
bills, pollution, tax subsidies — and the deeper story: a trust vacuum
at every level of government and a growing sense that the we...
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August 4, 2026 • 79 mins
Beth is out for two more weeks, so I've got a guest host: Laura Tremaine, my co-host over at Slow Read. We start in California, where Laura has lived for 25 years, and get honest about Gavin Newsom — the trolling, Prop 50, the podcast with Charlie Kirk, and why even the people rolling their eyes at him keep talking themselves into him for 2028. That opens up a bigger question we can't stop circling: what does the Democratic P...
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July 31, 2026 • 36 mins
Teen driving is the leading cause of death among adolescents — and most of us are completely winging it when we hand over the keys. Dr. Charlie Klauer is a Research Scientist and Associate Professor of Industrial and Systems Engineering at Virginia Tech. She's spent fifteen years doing naturalistic driving research: cameras and sensors in teenagers' cars, watching what they actually do. We took notes and hope you'll find her ...
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July 28, 2026 • 51 mins
It's easy to check the organ donor box on your driver's license without thinking too much about how organs are treated and routed to people who need them. NYT investigative reporter Brian Rosenthal thoroughly examined the system. His complicated findings have led to congressional inquiry and meaningful progress. This is a conversation about where the system fell short, what his reporting changed, and what still needs work.Topics di...
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July 24, 2026 • 27 mins
Kids who are anxious about the news might not need to hear less — they might need to know more. Tracy Kaplan, creator of The 10 News (a podcast for kids and families ages 8-12), has spent six years helping kids make sense of everything from the Russia-Ukraine war to gun violence to banned books. What she's learned about talking to kids about hard news is useful for parents too.Topics discussed:Why kids' anxiety about the news...
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July 21, 2026 • 40 mins
One of the hardest parts of paying attention to international news is wondering: what can I, one person, do about this? Today's guest, Gwyn Ridenhour, asked herself that question and answered in an extraordinary way. She moved to Lviv, Ukraine, to put books in the hands of children living through the war. Her project, Vinok Libraries, is small and specific and a quiet wonder. Today, she tells us about the work she's doing and how w...
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July 17, 2026 • 56 mins
While Sarah's on summer break, Beth talks with writer and urban planner Angie Schmitt about giving yourself permission to feel lighter about the news this summer, then digs into what's gone wrong with how American cities and neighborhoods are built for kids — from car-dependent suburbs to vanishing teen hangouts.
Topics discussed:
Taking an emotional break from the news without checking out entirely
ICE shootings, c...
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July 14, 2026 • 72 mins
Beth is joined by guest host Alex McCoy, a progressive organizer focused on holding Big Tech accountable, for a conversation about what breaks trust and how to rebuild it. They start with what the collapse of the Graham Platner campaign reveals about the progressive movement's relationship with imperfect candidates, then turn to the accountability vacuum around AI — who's making decisions about our jobs, our data, and our liv...
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July 10, 2026 • 55 mins
Beth sits down with Lauren Pinkston, an independent candidate for governor of Tennessee, on the same day Governor Beshear sent Senator Mitch McConnell a letter asking about his month-long hospitalization. They use that story, plus Graham Platner's exit from the Maine Senate race, to get at something bigger: what "honor" means in public life when authenticity and elitism both fall short. Then they turn to what that looks like in pra...
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July 7, 2026 • 49 mins
Sarah's on summer break this week, so Beth sits down with chef, culinary historian, and seventh-grade history teacher Mica Chavez to trace how food actually built the world we live in — from the Columbian Exchange and the science behind corn, to slavery, immigration, and the industrial food system we're stuck with today.
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The Columbian Exchange: how corn, chili, potatoes, and tomatoes reshaped diets on...
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July 3, 2026 • 61 mins
For America's 250th, we asked Ezra Klein what freedom actually requires
of us — and he took us somewhere we didn't expect: attention. We get
into why the older idea of freedom was about self-mastery, not just
endless choice, and what that means for how we live, parent, and govern
right now. It's a Fourth of July conversation about virtue,
institutions, and whether we can still build something new.Topics discussed:• The v...
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June 30, 2026 • 55 mins
We're celebrating America 250 with three-time Pulitzer winner Rick Atkinson, whose Revolution Trilogy strips the reverence off the founding to show what was actually there: the first American civil war, a continent of human loss, and a republic that has weathered worse than this. Outside of Politics, the most important question of the summer: what's your favorite fair food? Topics discussed:The Revolution as America's first civil w...
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June 26, 2026 • 59 mins
After a wave of June primaries, the question isn't just whether democratic socialism is winning — it's what it's actually offering. Beth and Sarah pull apart the electoral story (charisma, anti-establishment energy, and a generational shift on Israel) from the policy story: where collective approaches have something real to contribute, where capitalism still delivers, and the third thing Trump is quietly building that nobody'...
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June 23, 2026 • 57 mins
From a $14.5 million paint job peeling off the bottom of the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool to a sitting vice president's conversion memoir, this episode is about the distance between what leaders perform and what they actually deliver. Sarah and Beth dig into rushed, made-for-TV governance, Keir Starmer's resignation one day before Brexit's tenth anniversary, and the Washington Post's bombshell reporting on faith and power in Am...
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June 19, 2026 • 48 mins
The President announced a "deal" with Iran on his birthday, between a UFC fight and a crypto promotion — except it isn't a deal, it's a memorandum of understanding, which is a fancy way of saying nobody agreed to much of anything yet. Sarah and Beth get into what's actually happening in Iran, then turn to a Pew Research framework that breaks the country into nine political types instead of two parties. Plus: the surprisingly ...
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June 16, 2026 • 53 mins
The country got an invitation to its own 250th birthday and hesitated — do we even feel like celebrating right now? Sarah and Beth make the case that the answer is yes, and not in spite of how hard things are but because of it. A milestone is a chance to take stock and tell the most honest version of the story we can, regardless of what the loudest and most cynical voices do. Topics discussed:- Why celebrating America's 250th...
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