Pastors Talk - A podcast by 9Marks

Pastors Talk - A podcast by 9Marks

Pastors Talk is a weekly conversation between Jonathan Leeman and Mark Dever about practical aspects of the Christian life and pastoral ministry.

Episodes

Special Episode: On Preaching About the American Revolution (Ep. 337)

July 21, 2026 • 36 mins
In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman and Mark Dever discuss the unusual sermon Mark preached on July 5th, 2026 — the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence; tackling the question, "Are we celebrating the 250th anniversary of a sin?" Along the way they reflect on when to depart from expositional preaching for a topical occasion, rightly ordered love of country versus idolatry.
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Special Episode: On Lessons from Mark's Medical Event (Ep. 336)

July 14, 2026 • 34 mins
In this special episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman sits down with Mark and Connie Dever to talk through Mark's sudden medical event. Mark and Connie recount the story, from the emergency room to Mark's slow recovery, and reflect on what the experience revealed: how a healthy church cares for a pastor and his family in crisis, and the importance of building those habits of mutual care long before you need them.
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On Raising Up Leaders Part 4 (Ep. 335)

June 2, 2026 • 51 mins
In the season finale of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman is joined by Ligon Duncan and Michael Lawrence to discuss the state of the pastoral pipeline — examining why fewer men are entering ministry, the role of demographics and seminary debt, and what healthy churches and seminaries can do about it.
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On Raising Up Leaders Part 3 (Ep. 334)

May 26, 2026 • 31 mins
In part three of their series on raising up leaders, Jonathan Leeman and Mark Dever work through nine practical principles Mark uses to identify and develop future pastors — from spotting qualified men and extending trust early, to delegating well, cultivating feedback loops, embracing a healthy view of authority, and modeling clarity and humility. Along the way they discuss why spending time with a few people often matters m...
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On Raising Up Leaders Part 2 (Ep. 333)

May 19, 2026 • 24 mins
Jonathan Leeman and Mark Dever continue their conversation on raising up leaders, exploring the connection between discipleship, evangelism, and church planting, how to measure ministry fruitfulness beyond numbers, and what it means to steward your church for the next pastor.
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On Raising Up Leaders Part 1 (Ep. 332)

May 12, 2026 • 29 mins
In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan and Mark dive into the essential, yet often challenging, practice of raising up leaders and passing out authority. They discuss what it takes to build a ministry around giving authority away rather than consolidating it.
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On Drifting from the Gospel (Ep. 331)

May 5, 2026 • 37 mins
Hebrews 2:1  warns believers to pay close attention to the gospel message to avoid drifting away from their faith. Mark and Jonathan talk to Jared Wilson about his book on this topic and how believers should be thinking carefully about the centrality of the gospel in their lives.
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On "Can I Reimburse that as a Pastor?" (Ep. 330)

April 28, 2026 • 37 mins
How should pastors think about their work hours? What are some principles that churches and pastors can consider for pastors to get reimbursed? Mark and Jonathan talk with Garrett and Mike on lessons learned.
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On Discerning Repentance in Church Discipline (Ep. 329)

April 21, 2026 • 40 mins
Should Christians talk about discerning the repentance of other Christians? What are the instructions from the New Testament to churches? Mark and Jonathan invite Caleb Morell to discuss this.
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On The Homebound and Those Near Death (Ep. 328)

April 14, 2026 • 36 mins
How to pastor and walk with those in the unique season of life when they can't leave home and approaching death. Mark and Jonathan discuss practical ideas on how to be mindful as pastors.
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On Eastern Orthodoxy Part 2 (Ep. 327)

April 7, 2026 • 35 mins
Jonathan and Mark Feather talk to Joshua Schooping, a former Eastern Orthodox priest, on how to pastor church members who may be considering joining the Eastern Orthodox church.
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On Eastern Orthodoxy Part 1 (Ep. 326)

March 31, 2026 • 41 mins
Jonathan, Mark and Mark Feather talk to Joshua Schooping, a former Eastern Orthodox priest, on the reasons he had to leave that church.
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On The Ministry of Small Things and Fighting Pastoral Cynicism (Ep. 325)

March 24, 2026 • 27 mins
Jonathan talks to Reuben Bredenhof, author of The Ministry of Small Things. They consider the ordinary ministry of pastors, focusing on all the small things they must be faithful to, and reflect on the temptation of pastoral cynicism.
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On Why Should Pastors Teach the Job Description of Deacons (Ep. 324)

March 17, 2026 • 28 mins
If Jesus is the great deacon, what does that say about the office of deacon in our churches?

Jonathan sits down with Larry Lazarus to discuss why it is important for churches to know the job descriptions of deacons.
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On Why Should Pastors Teach Their Job Descriptions (Ep. 323)

March 10, 2026 • 30 mins
Have you ever wondered why it's important for congregations to know their pastor's job description according to the Bible? Jonathan sits down with his senior pastor, Larry Lazarus, to consider this question.
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On Expositional Preaching with H.B. Charles Jr. (Ep. 322)

March 3, 2026 • 25 mins
Mark talks to H.B. Charles Jr. on ministerial calling and how he prepares for preaching.
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On Getting to know HB Charles Jr (Ep. 321)

February 24, 2026 • 23 mins
Mark sits down with H.B. Charles Jr. to talk about his ministerial journey and how God has used him.
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On Religious Liberty (Ep. 320)

February 17, 2026 • 50 mins
Is there a doctrine of religious liberty in the Bible? Mark and Jonathan talk with Andrew Walker on how to think about this question.
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On Persecution in Missions (Ep. 319)

February 10, 2026 • 32 mins
On this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark and Jonathan talk with Matt Rhodes about his new book, Persecution in Missions.
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On John Cotton's Congregationalism (Ep. 318)

February 3, 2026 • 52 mins
On this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark and Jonathan invite Stephen Yuille and Caleb Morell to talk about the writing of John Cotton, focusing on his perspective on Congregationalism.
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