What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future

Every Friday and Sunday, Slate’s popular daily news podcast What Next brings you TBD, a clear-eyed look into the future. From fake news to fake meat, algorithms to augmented reality, Lizzie O’Leary is your guide to the tech industry and the world it’s creating for us to live in. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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May 22, 2026 34 mins

The promise of an “internet for niche communities” and “the empowered independent creator” has been taking a beating as the web has become less open and increasingly dominated by a few platforms and players. But does it have to be that way?


Guest: Jack Conte, CEO and cofounder of Patreon.


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Under fire for what critics say is inadequate protection of its young user base, Roblox nevertheless remains incredibly popular. Are the company’s new ballyhooed protections up for the task of keeping kids safe? Or is that asking the wrong question entirely?


Guests:

Cecilia D'Anastasio, video game reporter for Bloomberg. 

Mary Harris, host of the other What Next

Stella Harris, daughter of Mary.


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May 15, 2026 22 mins

Between artificial intelligence, the Iran War, and the future of Taiwan, there’s a lot for the United States and China to hash out—not least of which being the pecking order.


Guest: Josh Chin, senior global correspondent for the Wall Street Journal.


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May 10, 2026 31 mins

Everyone would probably hate A.I. less if we could just see some upside to it. But despite all the investment—into the companies, into infrastructure like data centers, so much into marketing—it’s widely known: artificial intelligence sucks.


Guest: Nilay Patel, co-founder and editor in chief of The Verge. 


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May 8, 2026 21 mins

The not-always-beloved-but-indisputably-useful Spirit Airlines has given up the ghost. What does this mean for the airline industry and your summer travel plans? 


Guest: Will Guisbond, senior reporter for The Air Current.


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In the early 2020s, Microsoft committed to buying 75 million tons of carbon removal—somewhere between 70 and 90 percent of the entire carbon removal market. But the company just announced it was putting that ambition on pause.. 


Guest: Robinson Meyer, founding executive editor of Heatmap News.


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May 1, 2026 24 mins

This week marks the beginning of the jury trial between Elon Musk and Sam Altman. There are massive implications for the A.I. industry here, but at the end of the day, the question might just boil down to - who do people dislike more?


Guest: Gerrit De Vynck, tech reporter at the Washington Post


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The era of ads following you around the internet via cookies might be coming to an end. What’s replacing it?


Guest: Sara Fisher, Axios' media correspondent, and media analyst at CNN.


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April 24, 2026 25 mins

Is artificial intelligence a blessing to all humanity, or a demon sent to lead us astray from God’s path? MAGA is choosing between two extremes.


Guest: Kiera Butler, national correspondent for Mother Jones.


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April 19, 2026 26 mins

This very online administration is facing push back from Iran in their own home territory: the world of insipid memes, A.I. videos, and online mockery.


Guest: Ali Breland, staff writer for the Atlantic.


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April 17, 2026 34 mins

Back in the depths of the pandemic, what was an actor to do? Ben McKenzie started looking into cryptocurrency—and his research yielded both a book and a new documentary. The works are both non-fiction, which is more than McKenzie can say for crypto.


Guest: Ben McKenzie, actor, director of the documentary Everyone Is Lying to You for Money, and co-author of Easy Money: Cryptocurrency, Casino Capitalism, and the Golden Age of Frau...

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April 12, 2026 31 mins

If you had as much trouble getting along with other humans as Sam Altman does, you too might be eager to issue in the artificial intelligence revolution.


Guest: Andrew Marantz, staff writer for the New Yorker. 

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April 10, 2026 20 mins

As OpenAI prepares for its IPO, the company decided to…pay millions of dollars for a tech talk show? Is this just what rich tech guys like Sam Altman are like now? 


Guest: Mike Isaac, tech reporter for the New York Times.

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April 5, 2026 31 mins

One of artificial intelligence’s most hyped “abilities” is how it writes computer code. So much so that seemingly anyone can do it. So we figured… why not us? 


Guests: 

Greg Lavalee, Slate’s Chief Technology Officer.

Clive Thompson, contributing writer for the New York Times


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In the wake of the 2008 financial crisis, private credit or “shadow banking” grew as an alternative to the regulations and shared risk that institutional banks operate within. What happens if a crisis hits the trillions of dollars that are outside of those guardrails? We may be about to find out. 


Guest: Tracy Alloway, co-host of Bloomberg's Odd Lots podcast.


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March 29, 2026 30 mins

Artificial intelligence is working its way into every aspect of our lives, including law and immigration enforcement, and the industry is spending millions of dollars to ensure it can continue to do so unregulated. But as evidence of bias appears in this nascent tech, this congresswoman wants to ensure we’re not just recreating our historical biases and problems all over again—which is to say, she wants guardrails. 


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March 27, 2026 23 mins

What YouTube and Meta’s loss in the “social media addiction trial” could mean for your feed.


Guest: Ryan Mac, business and technology reporter for the New York Times.


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March 22, 2026 27 mins

Why Palantir cofounder and CEO Alex Karp views working with Western militaries not just as a business opportunity, but as a higher calling.


Guest: Jacob Silverman, journalist and author of “Gilded Rage: Elon Musk and the Radicalization of Silicon Valley.”


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March 20, 2026 31 mins

Hank Green recently pulled a “reverse OpenAI” - he took his education platform Complexly and made it a nonprofit. In a world where outrage, A.I. slop and “brain rot” are all heavily incentivized by platforms, Hank explains why he’d rather make content that leans into the complexity of our world. 


Guest: Hank Green, YouTuber, half of Vlogbrothers, host of Crash Course and SciShow and founder of VidCon and Complexly.


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March 15, 2026 33 mins

A half dozen state attorneys general have sued the online gaming platform Roblox after multiple investigations found child predators on the site and more than 20 people were arrested for abducting or abusing children they had met via Roblox. 


Guest: Mike Hilgers, Nebraska Attorney General.


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