EdChoice Chats

EdChoice Chats

EdChoice is a nonprofit, nonpartisan organization dedicated to advancing educational choice as the best pathway to successful lives and a stronger society. We believe families, not bureaucrats, are best equipped to make K-12 schooling decisions for their children. Our team works at the state level to educate diverse audiences, train advocates and engage policymakers on the benefits of high-quality school choice programs. For podcast inquiries, please contact Chantal at media@edchoice.org. For podcast inquiries, please contact Chantal at media@edchoice.org.

Episodes

Starting Small: A Practical Guide to Starting Church-Based Schools

June 29, 2026 • 18 mins
In this episode of Sunday School Choice, host Nathan Sanders interviews Trevin Wax, VP for Research and Resource Development at the North American Mission Board and co-author of The Education Reformation. They discuss the importance of Christian education, the role of churches in starting schools, and practical steps for pastors and churches to engage in Christian education and the cultural significance of these efforts.
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State of Choice: Revolutionizing Education with AI

June 15, 2026 • 23 mins
In this episode of the State of Choice podcast, host Ed Tarnowski interviews Adam Mangana, CEO and a founder of Optima, about innovative educational technologies, including spatial computing, AI, and the impact on personalized learning. They explore how these advancements are transforming the future of education, especially for special needs students.
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How Iowa Is Turning Churches Into Classroom

June 1, 2026 • 18 mins
In this episode of Sunday School Choice, host Nathan Sanders interviews Josh Bowar about the impact of the Iowa Students First Act, the growth of Christian schools through education savings accounts, and innovative models in faith-based education. They discuss barriers to private education, accountability, and future visions for education in Iowa and nationwide. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Faith-Based Education 02:43 Josh Bowa...
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Cool Schools: Bader Hillel High

May 18, 2026 • 30 mins
On this episode of Cool Schools with Mike McShane we talk with Rabbi Yossi Bassman, Director at Bader Hillel High School in Glendale, Wisconsin, about blending college prep with rigorous Judaic studies, how the school maintains its mission, navigates accreditation, and plans for future growth while fostering a strong community and educational excellence.
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How the Church Can Lead the Education Freedom Movement

May 4, 2026 • 15 mins
In this episode of Sunday School Choice, host Nathan Sanders interviews Pastor Joshua Robertson from Black Pastors United for Education. Pastor Josh shares how churches can turn empty rooms into powerful educational hubs. He believes that the church plays a crucial role in shaping the next generation by providing customized, non-traditional educational opportunities that meet the unique needs of each child.
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State of Choice: April 2026

April 20, 2026 • 25 mins
In this episode of the State of Choice podcast, host Ed Tarnowski is joined by Katherine Munal Schulze, Cooper Conway, Aaron Gillham, and Nathan Sanders to discuss the current state of school choice programs across the U.S., focusing on recent developments, challenges, and opportunities for expansion.
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Cool Schools: Basilica School of St. Mary's Star of the Sea

April 6, 2026 • 32 mins
On this episode of Cool Schools with Mike McShane we talk with Robert Wright, principal of the Basilica School of St. Mary's Star of the Sea in Key West, Florida, about what makes his school unique and the benefits and challenges of having a school on an island with challenges related to housing and cost of living and inflation. We also talk about how they source their teachers, how you innovate an 160 year old school, and so...
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How to Help Your Child Be Successful in School

March 16, 2026 • 26 mins
On this edition of EdChoice Chats, Brian Ledtke is joined by three special guests; Colleen Hroncich, a policy analyst at the Cato Institute's Center for Educational Freedom, Lauren May, director of advocacy at Step Up for Students, and Kimberlee Tucker, owner of the Homeschool Hive. This conversation explores the vital role of parent support in creating student success, particularly through school choice and homeschooling. We...
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America at 250: How to Reignite an Interest in History

March 2, 2026 • 17 mins
In this episode of EdChoice Chats, Brian Ledtke talks with Madison Marino Doan, a Policy Analyst in the Center for Education Policy at The Heritage Foundation, and Jonathan Butcher, the Acting Director of the Center for Education Policy and Will Skillman Senior Research Fellow in Education Policy at The Heritage Foundation. They discuss the critical importance of civics education in America as the nation approaches its 2...
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Unpacking the Federal Scholarship Tax Credit

February 16, 2026 • 17 mins
On this episode of EdChoice Chats, Brian Ledtke talks with John Schilling, president and founder of 2020 Strategies and former president of American Federation for Children, and Lauren May, director of advocacy at Step Up for Students, about the Education Choice for Children Act. They explore the implications of the federal scholarship tax credit, its impact on public schools, and the importance of state participation. The discuss...
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Robotics, AI, and School Choice

February 2, 2026 • 15 mins
On this edition of EdChoice Chats, host Brian Ledtke talks with Jennifer Wolverton, founder and CEO of Microcollective for AI, Robotics and the Sciences, about her journey in education, the founding of MARS Microschool, and the integration of AI and robotics in learning. Wolverton emphasizes the importance of adapting education to include AI literacy and ethics, while also addressing concerns about screen time and the need for in...
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Does School Choice Hurt Teachers?

January 20, 2026 • 10 mins
In this episode of Tough Questions, we ask, "Does school choice hurt teachers?" Robert separates the facts from fiction.
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Do Parents Know What's Best for Their Kids?

January 5, 2026 • 13 mins
In this episode of Tough Questions with Robert Enlow, we ask, "Do parents really know what's best for their kids?" Robert Enlow, President and CEO of EdChoice, discusses the critical role of parents in educational decision-making, challenging the myth that they cannot be trusted to make the best choices for their children.
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What Happens to the Kids Left Behind?

December 16, 2025 • 10 mins
Critics of school choice often argue that when some students leave for better opportunities, the ones who stay in traditional schools suffer. This episode of Tough Questions with Robert Enlow addresses whether that’s true—and what actually happens to those “left behind.”
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Susan Pendergrass on the Supply Side of ESAs

December 9, 2025 • 25 mins
In this episode of the State of Choice podcast, host Ed Tarnowski talks with Susan Pendergrass about the impact of universal choice in states like Arizona. They explore how universal choice is reshaping the educational landscape, the dynamics of supply and demand in rural areas, and the emergence of new educational models.
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Does School Choice Actually Work?

December 2, 2025 • 15 mins
In this episode of Tough Questions, we ask, "How do we know school choice actually works?" Robert Enlow, President and CEO of EdChoice, goes over the research, general skepticisms, and real-world examples of choice working.
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Fighting for Freedom to Learn

November 11, 2025 • 37 mins
On this edition of EdChoice Chats, host Mike McShane talks with Neal McCluskey and James Shuls, editors of the new book Fighting for Freedom to Learn: Examining America's Century-Old School Choice Movement. In this conversation they explore the historical context and evolution of the school choice movement in America, focusing on the contributions of key figures like Horace Mann and Virgil Bloom. The discussion delves into the imp...
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Classic Learning Test: Challenging the Testing Monopoly

October 7, 2025 • 26 mins
In this episode of State of Choice, host Ed Tarnowski talks with Michael Torres, Director of Legislative Strategy at the Classic Learning Test (CLT), about how CLT is challenging the SAT and ACT by offering a liberal arts-based testing. Torres shares the story of CLT’s founding, its rapid growth—especially after Florida’s adoption of the test—and ongoing efforts to expand into other states despite pushback....
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Rethinking ESA Policy Design

August 27, 2025 • 45 mins
On this edition of EdChoice Chats, host Mike McShane talks with Katherine Bathgate, the CEO and founder of SchoolForward, about her new paper Rethinking ESA Policy Design: A new approach to financial accountability. They talk about the ideas in the paper, ESA policy, the risk of misuse and fraud in ESA programs, and so much more.
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How the Herzog Foundation Is Strengthening Christian Education

July 15, 2025 • 20 mins
In this episode of Sunday School Choice, host Nathan Sanders interviews Chris Vas from the Herzog Foundation to discuss the foundation’s mission of advancing Christ-centered K–12 education across the country. They explore the foundation’s professional development programs, its SchoolBox platform for launching new schools, and the impact of Missouri’s MoScholars tax credit program. The conversation also highl...
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