This Way Out: The International LGBTQ Radio Magazine

This Way Out: The International LGBTQ Radio Magazine

For a quarter of a century, the unfettered voices of LGBT people have been broadcast around the world on "This Way Out." The award-winning internationally is distributed weekly on over 200 local community radio and online stations around the world (carriage list at thiswayout.org), can be heard via podcast (thiswayout.org and iTunes) and direct satellite (World Radio Network) and is available on CD by subscription. With only modest funding from foundations, Overnight Productions, Inc. (a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization) has remained true to its commitment to provide this high-quality LGBT programming to a global audience -- and to offer the program free of charge. Follow us on Soundcloud to hear the weekly show … and maybe some surprises! Archived programs available at http://bit.ly/dduN0p. For our whole story -- including how you can contribute -- please visit our website at http://thiswayout.org!

Episodes

Harvard’s Global LGBTQI+ Human Rights Program

July 15, 2025 • 28 mins
While Harvard University faces off with the Trump administration over its diversity, equity and inclusion programs, director Diego Garcia Blum of its John F. Kennedy School of Government Carr-Ryan Center for Human Rights Global LGBTQI+ Human Rights Program counts its first year accomplishments (interviewed by David Hunt). And in NewsWrap: same-gender couples in Hong Kong who have legal recognition from abroad could get health-rela...
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U.N.’s Crucial Queer Rights Vote

July 8, 2025 • 28 mins
On the eve of the U.N. Human Rights Council’s vote on whether to renew the Independent Expert on Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity, Fabiana Leibl of the International Service for Human Rights, trans activist Best Chitsangupong, Carr-Ryan Center for Human Rights senior fellow Jessica Stern; and scholar-activist Ignacio Saiz discuss the significance of the position and its chances of passage (interviewed by David Hunt). And in ...
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Podcast Extended Interview: Marval A Rex's Big Dad Energy

July 1, 2025 • 39 mins
Extended interview with actor/astrologer/comedian Marval A Rex, the ringmaster of an all trans male comedy troupe called Big Dad Energy. The conversation is an extended version of This Way Out Radio Episode 1944 about Big Dad Energy's origins after their recent West Hollywood Pride performance at the Los Angeles LGBT Center’s Renberg Theater - and takes a surprising “star turn” (interviewed by Jason Jenn). Please note there is the ...
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Marval A Rex’s Big Dad Energy

July 1, 2025 • 28 mins
During this terrible time of queer and trans erasure, finding a moment to laugh can be another form of protest - especially when the source of the laughter is from an all trans male comedy troupe called Big Dad Energy. The ringmaster behind the group is actor/astrologer/comedian Marval A Rex, whose conversation about its origins after their recent West Hollywood Pride performance at the Los Angeles LGBT Center’s Renberg Theater tak...
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U.S. Supreme Court v. Trans Kids’ Health Care

June 24, 2025 • 28 mins
The U.S. Supreme Court upheld Tennessee’s ban on pediatric gender affirming health care with a decision that lowered the bar for establishing its constitutionality and that imperils the rights of young trans patients in the 20 other states with similar laws — all despite the opposition of every major U.S. medical association. Brad Sears, Distinguished Senior Scholar of the Williams Institute at the UCLA School of Law, unpacks the r...
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USAID Cuts Cripple Global Queer Rights

June 17, 2025 • 28 mins
In the aftermath of the Elon Musk chainsaw gutting the United States Agency for International Development, LGBTQ+ people around the world were robbed of more than a hundred programs geared to promote their health, safety and human rights. UCLA Law School’s Williams Institute senior fellow and director of international programs Ari Shaw worries that the days of U.S. leadership on global queer rights are over (interviewed by David Hu...
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The Scrubbing of the USNS Harvey Milk

June 10, 2025 • 28 mins
The U.S. Navy launched a fleet replenishment oiler in honor of assassinated San Francisco Supervisor and Navy vet Harvey Milk in 2021, but a new administration finds the gay icon not “reflective of the Commander-in-Chief's priorities.” Milk’s nephew Stuart and then-Navy Secretary Carlos Del Toro spoke about the significance of the USNS Harvey Milk, and Human Rights Campaign National Press Secretary Brandon Wolf reacts to the order ...
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Erik Piepenburg’s “Dining Out”

June 3, 2025 • 28 mins
The rich history of LGBTQ+ eateries and the role they’ve played in encouraging community is served up by Erik Piepenburg in his new book, “Dining Out: First Dates, Defiant Nights and Last Call Disco Fries at America’s Gay Restaurants” (interviewed by David Hunt). And in NewsWrap: more than 70 members of the European Parliament plan to defy the Orbán-backed ban on Budapest Pride, the National Police Chiefs’ Council’s guidance based...
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Drag Queen Violinist Thorgy Thor

May 27, 2025 • 28 mins
As Trump-phobia stokes concert homophobia across the U.S. during Pride season, RuPaul's Drag Race favorite Thorgy Thor weaves classical music into her unique performance style (interviewed by Brian DeShazor). And in NewsWrap: a lesbian couple in Italy can both be legally recognized as the mothers of a child they conceived via in vitro fertilization thanks to a historic Constitutional Court ruling, Moscow's Tagansky District Court ...
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Texas v. DEI & Garcia v. Noem

May 20, 2025 • 28 mins
The Texas state House held a hearing on a bill that LGBTQ+ activists say would undermine education by eliminating diversity, equity and inclusion policies from public schools. State Representative Ron Reynolds, Equality Texas Communications Director Johnathan Gooch, Mandy Garcia of Texas AFT and a representative of Students Engaged in Advancing Texas (SEAT) have a plan of action (reported by Lucia Chappelle). Where is Andry Hernan...
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Audio Archive Saves Queer History

May 13, 2025 • 28 mins
This Way Out’s own collection of programs dating back to 1988 is already becoming a valuable tool for LGBTQ+ researchers and educators, even as the extensive process of data sorting and cataloging is getting underway. Project lead and Overnight Productions (Inc,) CEO Brian DeShazor discusses the next steps and the importance of preserving original materials with University of North Texas queer media professor Dr. Tanya D. Zuk. And...
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Poetic Duet: Adrienne Rich and Audre Lorde

May 6, 2025 • 28 mins
Classic appearances by two giants in the world of poetry regardless of gender or orientation, reading from their work and responding to their audience, brought together by the magic of recording tape (!) and the courtesy of the Pacifica Radio Archives (produced by Brian DeShazor). And in NewsWrap: transgender former High Court judge Dr. Victoria McCloud will take the U.K. Supreme Court definition of the word “woman” to the Europe...
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Jason “Journeyman’s” Queer Ecology

April 29, 2025 • 28 mins
Oppressive governments like the Trump administration may try to erase queer identities and histories, but California Naturalist and educator Jason “Journeyman” Wise reveals how science is recognizing that the rigid, patriarchal, binary view of the natural world is no match for the true fluid, diverse and interdependent reality (interviewed by Jason Jenn). And in NewsWrap: hundreds of thousands of protesters filled the streets of ...
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De Waal: “It Wasn’t Dutch Courage”

April 22, 2025 • 28 mins
Decades of LGBTQ+ organizing in Australia are captured in the memoir of Peter De Waal, and the spirit of his book launching at the site of the early movement’s first meetings is captured by Sydney correspondent Barry McKay. And in NewsWrap: the United Kingdom’s Supreme Court rejects the Scottish government’s argument that transgender women should have full access to women’s services, gender dysphoria is no longer covered by U.S. l...
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Meet Trinidad and Tobago Plaintiff Jason Jones

April 15, 2025 • 28 mins
Biracial, binational, queer human right activist Jason Jones began his lawsuit against Trinidad and Tobago’s British colonial ban on same-gender sex in 2017. It was struck down in 2018, but an appeals court recently overturned that ruling and reinstated the law. Jones has one more chance to appeal that decision (interviewed by David Hunt). And in NewsWrap: transgender professional player Harriet Haynes sues the English Blackball P...
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Resisting the Erasure of Pauli Murray

April 8, 2025 • 28 mins
Even at the National Historic Landmark dedicated to a queer civil rights activist, legal scholar, author and Episcopal priest, the Trump administration is rewriting U.S. history. Executive Director Angela Thorpe Mason of the Pauli Murray Center for History and Social Justice in Durham, North Carolina is fighting to keep the legacy alive (produced by David Hunt). And in NewsWrap: Greek men whether gay or straight won’t be able to a...
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Garcia Checks Greene & Pritzker Preaches to HRC

March 30, 2025 • 28 mins
Infamous U.S. Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) didn’t know what she was getting into when she defamed the drag artist with a doctorate Professor Lil Miss Hot Mess, but gay Representative Robert Garcia (D-CA) had the skillful sarcasm to shut her down (Lauren Schmitt reports). lIllinois Governor JB Pritzker’s fiery address lights up the Human Rights Campaign’s annual Los Angeles dinner with a call to move the movement in...
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Thank You For Trans Service, Col. Fram

March 24, 2025 • 28 mins
While transgender members of the U.S. military wait on tinder hooks for the courts to rule on President Donald Trump’s order to expel them, Col. Bree Fram of the Space Force refuses to give up her frontline post. The courageous trans soldier, a descendant of a family with a history of valiant service, shares her story. Note: Fram spoke in her personal capacity and her views do not necessarily reflect those of the Defense Department...
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Beyond Identity: Bettcher’s Transgender Philosophy

March 17, 2025 • 28 mins
Transgender philosophy professor Talia Mae Bettcher (“Beyond Personhood: An Essay in Trans Philosophy”) confronts a world that oppression has turned upside down, and has some bold suggestions for radical, liberating action to stop trans erasure (interviewed by Tanya Kane-Parry). And in NewsWrap: the U.S. Department of the Navy puts its plans to expel Navy and Marine Corps personnel with a history of gender dysphoria into high gear...
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Signs: What You Say, How You Serve, Who You Marry

March 9, 2025 • 28 mins
In the cycle between LGBTQ+ inclusion and exile, you can see the same signposts in either direction. Whether the queer community is on the rise or whether rights are being extinguished step by step, three bellwether issues are “no promo homo” laws, military service and marriage equality. Current news and archival reports from March 2000 illustrate the point. And in NewsWrap: Ghana’s horrific anti-queer bill is being reintroduced b...
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