Upside Down Podcast

What happens when you step into your truest self? Kayla Craig interviews fellow Upside Down Podcast host Patricia (aka Patty) Taylor with Alissa Molina and Lindsy Wallace in our second-to-the-last episode.
 

In this episode, we:

• Hear Patty describe the growth she has experienced since becoming a co-host and how it’s deepened her confidence in who God created her to be
• Talk about how the podcast has provided a space to show up...

How does being in an ecumenical space expand and enrich our spiritual lives, within and beyond the walls of the church? Patricia Taylor, along with Kayla Craig and Lindsy Wallace, put Upside Down Podcast co-host Alissa Molina in the hot seat in the second of our final four episodes.

In this episode, we:

• Hear from Alissa as she explains what the podcast has brought to her life and how it has helped her embrace Catholicism even mor...

What happens when our view of God becomes more expansive, and what does it reveal to us about ourselves and others? Lindsy Wallace is the first Upside Down Podcast host in the hot seat, as she’s interviewed by fellow co-hosts Alissa Molina, Patricia Taylor, and Kayla Craig. 

In this episode, we:

• Talk about Lindsy’s personal and spiritual growth over the duration of the podcast, including connecting with a more expansive view of G...

We’ve got a special announcement to share. Co-hosts Kayla Craig, Lindsy Wallace, Alissa Molina, and Patricia Taylor come together to bring you an important update about the future of the Upside Down Podcast. 

News, Notes, and Links:

• You can continue to support the Upside Down Podcast! Please visit us, where you can pledge a few dollars of monthly support to help keep this podcast accessible.
• Learn more at Upside Down Podcast.
• We’re...

What does hope mean to you, and how do you practice it? Lindsy Wallace talks with award-winning musician, writer, and activist Andre Henry about sustaining hope, translating it into action, and how art can help dismantle empires. 

In this episode, we:

• Talk about his newly released book, All the White Friends I Couldn’t Keep, and who he wrote it for
• Go over Andre’s practice of always reading something about hope to remind himself o...

How do we know when we are in a space of true belonging, where our whole person can be welcome, present, and safe? Co-hosts Patricia Taylor, Kayla Craig, and Lindsy Wallace talk with writer, liturgist, and speaker Cole Arthur Riley about freedom and belonging—the good and the bad kind.

In this episode, we:

• Discuss how Black Liturgies came to be and why Cole chose to initially remain anonymous
• Share definitions of true belonging: s...

It’s our 100th episode! Co-hosts Kayla Craig, Alissa Molina, Patricia Taylor, and Lindsy Wallace celebrate this milestone by looking back on where they’ve been, what they’ve learned, and what they hope for this little podcast that could and the community that’s grown from it. 

In this episode, we:

• Hear from listeners, former guests, and past hosts about their Upside Down Podcast memories and reflections 
• Talk about how the podcast...

How do you break up with American Christianity and meaningfully make space for those in deconstruction? Co-hosts Alissa Molina, Patricia Taylor, and Kayla Craig talk with Jonny Craig, Kayla’s husband, our podcast editor, and the host of The Digital Community—an online space for sharing questions, doubts, and wonderings about God and culture.

In this episode, we:

• Dive into what deconstruction means for many and the experience of r...

Have you ever considered just how paradigm-shifting grace is? Co-hosts Kayla Craig and Lindsy Wallace have a conversation with New York Times bestselling author, USA Today columnist, and CNN Senior Political Analyst Kirsten Powers about her new book, Saving Grace: Speak Your Truth, Stay Centered, and Learn to Coexist with People Who Drive You Nuts. Together, they talk about what grace is—and what it isn’t—and what it can do.

In this...

How do we talk with young people about fighting racism when we’re struggling with it ourselves? Co-hosts Patricia Taylor, Lindsy Wallace, and Kayla Craig talk with Dr. Jemar Tisby—the founder of The Witness, Inc., cohost of the Pass the Mic podcast, and a New York Times bestselling author—about the need to normalize having conversations about racial justice with the young people in our lives.

In this episode, we:

• Discuss how Dr. ...

Have you ever considered that Jesus is who he is because of a woman? Co-hosts Patricia Taylor and Kayla Craig talk with writer Kat Armas about this bigger, expansive, abuelita faith—one that persists, resists, and survives.

In this episode, we:

• Discuss the influence of Kat’s Roman Catholic upbringing on having a tangible and embodied view of Mother Mary
• Talk about Julian of Norwich’s image of Jesus as mother as well as Jesus being...

How do we navigate grief ourselves and with others? Co-hosts Patricia Taylor and Alissa Molina have a conversation with J.S. Park, who is a teaching pastor, writer, and interfaith hospital chaplain about persisting through grief and the ministry of presence.

In this episode, we:

• Discuss the vulnerability of sharing our grief, how it can open us to being wounded or experiencing healing
• Define the role of a chaplain and the experien...

How do you live an open-handed life while protecting your peace? Co-hosts Lindsy Wallace, Alissa Molina, and Kayla Craig explore the topic of boundaries: what they mean and why they’re crucial in our lives, relationships, and the spaces we exist in. 

In this episode, we:

• Define what boundaries are and how they can be designed for the mutual health and flourishing of ourselves and others around us
• Consider how boundaries can show u...

• Reframe the concept of disability away from a hierarchy and instead look to how we think of the natural world
• Talk about how being an...

What is our first inclination when we hear or see something that stretches the way we see things? Do we reach for fear?  Do we shut down?  Or do we remain curious, asking ourselves questions about our thinking? In this episode, Alissa Molina and Lindsy Wallace interview former co-host Shannon Evans about her recent book release, Rewilding Motherhood: Your Path to an Empowered Feminine Spirituality.

In this episode we:

• T...

What comes to mind when you think of prayer? In this episode, Patricia Taylor, Alissa Molina, and Lindsy Wallace interview co-host Kayla Craig about her upcoming book, To Light Their Way: A Collection of Prayers & Liturgies for Parents, and expanding our idea of prayer. 

In this episode, we:

• Ask Kayla where her belief that prayer is real and powerful comes from, especially in light of how much prayer gets casually thrown arou...

What does it mean to persist these days, and what do we desire to persist toward? Co-hosts Lindy Wallace, Kayla Craig, Alissa Molina, and Patricia Taylor kick off our sixth season with a conversation about the long game of persistence and why we’re still here.

In this episode, we:

• Talk about why we’re still showing up on this “little podcast that could” 
• Dig into the meaning of persistence: how it’s both opposing something and ima...

What brings you rest? Is it something that’s easy for you to embrace, or do you find yourself struggling with it? Co-hosts Kayla Craig, Alissa Molina, and Patricia Taylor talk about the need for rest—to nourish ourselves and to love one another—in our final episode of the season. 

In this episode, we:

• Discuss how rest can be a struggle when it is often considered selfish or something to be earned instead of an innate need
• Acknowle...

How do you begin to reconnect with your community after over a year of wading through the collective heaviness of a global pandemic? Co-hosts Lindsy Wallace, Alissa Molina, and Kayla Craig gather to connect and reflect on where we are and where we’ve been. 

In this episode, we:

• Acknowledge the importance and exhaustion of connecting and how we have to relearn how to connect with no road map for these times
• Check in with each other...