Leading Second Podcast
A weekly podcast to help church leaders thrive in the second chair. Leading Second exists to equip local churches everywhere to raise up UNCOMMON leaders. In a culture that often celebrates individual achievement and being on top, Leading Second is here to raise up the kind of leaders every pastor would kill to have on the team. Leaders who are all-in, heart and soul for Jesus, His Church, and their team’s mission. In an ever changing world, we have conversations in real-time with pastors and leaders on topics such as church leadership, leading when you’re not in charge, healthy team culture, and how to lead in the second chair. To learn more, visit leadingsecond.com.
Episodes
Church planting is not for the faint of heart. This week we get the opportunity to hear from Noah Herrin, Lead Pastor of Way Church in Nashville, TN, and Connor Crumpton, Executive Pastor at Way Church, as they provide a unique viewpoint of how they work together as First and Second Chair Leaders to build this new space for their community. This discussion is insightful for anyone serving in the Second Chair, not just for church pl...
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April 18, 2024 • 32 mins
This week, we are joined by Philip Engle, Senior Coach and General Manager at focus412, as we continue our series Inside the Second Chair. Philip offers a unique perspective on ministry as he represents both ministry and the corporate world. We talk about creating healthy leadership habits, being a trustworthy leader, and defining what success looks like in the second chair.
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April 11, 2024 • 33 mins
Mixing family and ministry can be tricky, but when we are intentional about both there are great seeds that can be sown. This week we get to hear from Jonathan Brozozog, Lead Pastor at Creative Church in Minnesota, who has some deep insight into balancing family and ministry. Catch the full, extended version of this conversation on Leading Second+ today. Visit leadingsecondplus.com.
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April 4, 2024 • 30 mins
This week Larry Brey, Associate Pastor at Elevation Church, sits down for an inside the Second Chair interview with Nate Puccini, Executive Pastor and Chief of Staff at Substance Church in Minneapolis, MN.
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March 21, 2024 • 23 mins
Ep 170: We’re joined by Matt and Jennifer Martin from NorthRock Church in San Antonio, TX and Travis Marshall from Christian World Church in Dallas, TX as we tackle some questions from Second Chair Leaders live at the Team Church One Day in Dallas, TX.
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March 14, 2024 • 42 mins
This week, we are joined by Wade Joye, founder of the Joyful Leader ministry, as we continue our series Inside the Second Chair where we are diving in deep on the practices, disciplines, and functions of great second chair church leaders.
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March 7, 2024 • 47 mins
Tending to our personal discipleship development is crucial to how we lead from the Second Chair. Chris Palmer, Academic Dean with Theos Seminary, walks us through the importance of our growth in discipleship and how it can impact our ability to lead from the Second Chair.
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February 29, 2024 • 35 mins
Do you wonder how great leaders function? Through this series, Inside the Second Chair, we are diving in with different leaders to discover the secret sauce that keeps leaders focused and in the game. Through a series of questions that will be asked of different leaders throughout the season, we will get a first hand look at how each of us can stay ready for what we are called to do from the Second Chair.
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December 28, 2023 • 32 mins
Today is an alignment check-up. It’s important to recognize if we are misaligned with the mission and vision of the church and for the leadership to recognize when misalignment could be the result of organizational clarity. The goal of this episode is to continue the conversation on alignment but through a different lens, to learn how to question yourself, and to give a roadmap to seeking alignment with you and your team in mind.
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December 7, 2023 • 64 mins
On the creative team at a church, many different areas make a service and a weekend function. Rich and Cass Langton know this all too well. There can be a struggle to ensure there is alignment in the team to make sure the main goal is accomplished, to make Jesus known. Rich and Cass pour out their invaluable knowledge and wisdom in how to lead a creative team, with insights that go far beyond just the creatives in the Church.
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November 30, 2023 • 47 mins
There doesn’t have to be a battle over time between ministry and family. They can and should coexist if viewed and prioritized with purpose. Brandon and Dusty Dean, Lead Pastor at Heartland Church in Texas, reflect on their own lives growing up with parents in ministry, how they are approaching their own families, and how our kids can grow to love being a child of someone who is in ministry.
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November 16, 2023 • 43 mins
Alignment is a critical issue for a leader. It’s true that every team member must have an aligned heart, but what if alignment is also an organizational issue? How can someone be aligned if they are unclear of what their authority and role is in the organization? Brandon, Jennifer and Matt Martin from NorthRock Church in San Antonio, TX, and Nick Dekold from Lakeshore Church in Rockwall, TX sit down to discuss how they continue to ...
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November 9, 2023 • 36 mins
As Second Chair Leaders, we are called to carry the vision of our leaders. But where does the idea of innovation play in the Second Chair? Vance Roush, Founder of Overflow and Executive Pastor at Vive Church in California, brings a fresh viewpoint on how to lead from the Second Chair by being an innovative visionary.
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November 2, 2023 • 40 mins
Every organization has a culture, whether it is by design or by default. When a team is working well together and fully aligned, the momentum towards the mission is unstoppable. Jenni Catron, founder of The 4 Sight Group, joins Brandon and Jennifer Martin, Executive Pastor at NorthRock Church in San Antonio, TX, to talk about the value of culture in an organization.
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October 26, 2023 • 66 mins
Culture is a vital part of why anyone attaches themselves to anything. Establishing and maintaining a strong culture is vital to any church that wants to have a thriving ministry. Brandon is joined by Tracy Keene, Co-Pastor at StrongPoint Church in Columbus, OH, and they sit down with Adi and Claire Olivier, Lead Pastors at Rivers Church Kyalami in South Africa, to talk about ownership, culture, and honor.
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October 19, 2023 • 71 mins
It is so important for each of us to acknowledge that we need to learn from others who have walked and are walking in similar scenarios as we are. Brandon, Nichole Moore from Champion Center in Tacoma, WA, Kyle Heinecke from Fresh Life Church in Kalispell, MT, and Jon Hatto from Hillsong Canada walk us through some questions they have as well as their insight of different situations through their walk in ministry.
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October 12, 2023 • 45 mins
There are many different types of Second Chair Leaders. Different positions, different talents and abilities, and different avenues in which to serve and lead. Giving is not just a Biblical principle, but a very important leadership avenue in the Church. Malachi 3:10 says, "'Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this,' says the Lord Almighty, 'and see if I will not throw open the ...
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Every leader is on a journey. Throughout the journey, it is important to know where you are, where you’ve been, and where you’re going. Scott Riztheimer, founder and CEO of Scale Architects, brings clarity on the stages of Predictable Success as well as some insight into how to walk through the stages of being stuck.
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September 28, 2023 • 40 mins
In ministry, we can get frustrated with people or situations around us. Matt and Jennifer Martin, Executive Pastors at NorthRock Church in San Antonio, TX, provide some invaluable insight, guidance, and entertaining stories to help us see that we aren’t alone in our frustration and how we can thrive in the presence of frustration.
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September 21, 2023 • 46 mins
A dream is a wish your heart makes… but what do you do when the dream in your heart isn’t your reality? Wade Joye, a coach, speaker, podcaster, and author of This Dream Is Not For You, walks us through how to navigate through the reality we are currently in, accept the dreams that have been given to us, and accept when we might be called in a different direction than we thought our dream would go. This Dream Is Not For You is avail...
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