World of Wisdom

World of Wisdom

A curiosity driven podcast about wisdom, learning and the personal and systemic implications of the transition we are in. Hosted by Amit Paul and Nils von Heijne. For extended shownotes visit: https://worldofwisdom.substack.com/

Episodes

April 20, 2026 69 mins

Tharald Nustad (LI) and Evita Chiang Zanuso (LI) visited the podcast and we spoke in-depth about the Katapult ecosystem, where it is currently at and the Katapult Future Fest. This is a call to attend to this event that is one of the catalysing events in the impact space. This year in Amsterdam end of may. We spoke of what the metamorphosis is, what it means to focus and not spreading yourself to thin, how one can begin moving beyo...

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Ryan James Kemp (LI) came on the podcast and we spoke of the Original Living Responsibilities (LI), living at the pace of the planet and the important of sequence. We spoke of why goals are present fobic, how circular time works, how finding a different pace may change everything. That grief is the metabolic movement of becoming reconnected. We also touch on (Re)biz the unschool for systems learning, complimentary dualities, what i...

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Lex Empress (LinkTree)vocalist, systems thinker and the founder of Soulsong came by the podcast. We dove deep into what singing is, what it means to be in a commercial world as artist. Performance and presence, the tension between them and how they scaffold one another. We spoke of what it is to be in contact with what is and the transformative power of devotion to the present. We spoke of truth and its ever-changing, contextual qu...

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Marina Mussapi (LI) at the Moleskin Foundation came by the podcast and we spoke of creativity as a vehicle for transformation. How can we support and invest in the arts without corrupting their spirit? What does it look like to invest contextually in local contexts to empower creators? What does it look like to decanter the heroic role of the investor and focus on creating conditions for movement? We speak of this throughout the wo...

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Ebru Kaya (⁠LI⁠) and André Stürmer (⁠LI⁠) founders of both ⁠RIA⁠ and ⁠Atreyu ⁠came by the podcast for a deepdive into regenerative investing. Not just investing in regenerative companies but what it means to invest regeneratively. We speak of profit, the position, role and stance of the investor, the experiences Ebru and André have made in their long experience as well as their learning edge. We speak of how everyone is an investor...

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Adam Purvis (LI) of Dark Matter Labs and Jenny Grettve (LI) of EIT Culture and Creativity, artist and creative joined me for a roundtable conversation about institutions and their transformation. We spoke of power and what it takes to shift. Language - when the complexity serves us and when it gets in the way. We spoke of institutions, their development and the move away from care. We spoke of institutions as certainty artefacts an...

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David Ekelund the co-CEO and founder of Icebug came on the podcast (LI) and we spoke about what it is to run a company that does not consider itself sustainable but that is acting for increasing thriving and contributing positively to the world. We speak of Icebugs journey to where they are today, how they work with people and supplychains. Their approach to value distribution as well as how they think about cost. This is an inspir...

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Camille Accolas (Founder of TrustExchange, LinkedInCamille Accolas (Founder of ⁠TrustExchange⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠) came on the podcast and we spoke about trust and what becomes possible when we're allowed to show up as full pepole. We spoke of Camilles past in sustainability and biodiversity and how even there being able to bring people together and create containers was key to driving change. What happens when we turn the tables and ...

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Larissa Conte (LinkedIn) and I spoke about the work she's been doing on power. We spoke about wattage. The notion that power is an experience not a thought. That we are afraid of power and what we may do with it. We spoke of shadow power: over and the one we give away, as well as the power that serves the whole. Larissas work with heart centered leaders was the backbone of this conversation. It is a primer to a different way of...

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Author, facilitator and coach Samantha Sweetwater (LinkedIn) came back to the podcast for a deep dive into her most recent book True Human. We spoke of homecoming, the current predicament, the current moment. We also spoke of separation, domination and their antidotes. What does it take for humans to come back into relational process that serves the vitality, emergence and co-emergence of life. Enjoy this wonderful podcast. And get...

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Marie Ekeland (LI) founder of 2050 and venture capitalist came on and we spoke about how they are reinventing the VC model so it may contribute to a regenerative future. This is a very hands on conversation that dives into the weeds: the fund structure their alignment model, the world they are hoping to create through their investment, the incentives. It's absolutely excellent. We also speak of why investment is a creation of reali...

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This conversation with Dave Snowden (LI) and founder of the Cynefin Co came on the podcast and we spoke of complexity. Discerning it from systems thinking, why he's been so critical of the inner development goals, getting the critique on experts right. We spoke of change, direction, working with the substrate. Why workshops are suboptimal or even damaging, why practice is what makes perfect. We spoke about waymaking, micro-empathic...

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Mari Granström (LI) founder and CEO of Origin by Ocean. We spoke of the chemicals industry and why it's so integral to everything that we do, how it can and probably will become a part of the solution going forward. We spoke of what it takes to actually recreate supply chains that are healthier where social , environmental and financial benefit are co-consequences. We also spoke of why single focus on carbon is detrimental for ...

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Cassie Robinson (website) & Vanessa Reid (website) came on the podcast for a spontaneous chat about the wealth transformation, what nature immersion and different modes of gathering holds in terms of transformative potential. We spoke of death, and dying in a living way. The wealth defence industry, the paths towards post capitalist ways of being. The importance of looking at ones own relationship with wealth, and the communica...

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Bree Greenberg is a therapist and spiritual teacher. This conversation weaves the threads of power with eating disorder, the current state of the world with our relationship to our innermost sacred, the innocence. This is a challenging conversation and an incredibly important one. It is about what is most systemic and most personal. We track Bree's work with those suffering form eating disorders to the work that she is now doing, e...

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Amrei Andrasch is the co-founder of the Regenerative Timelab (website) and steward of the Oslo Project. We spoke of the legacy and importance of Deep Ecology as well as its relevance for our times. We spoke of rocks and collaboration, what happens to people when they embody the vast timespans of this planet and how we come back into relationship with all of it. We spoke of burnout and of coming alive, we spoke of mountains and lang...

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Emma Dalväg (LI, website) founder of Unwasted, came on the and we spoke of the circular economy. We spoke of industrial symbiosis (the book), and the shift that is happening around the world at the moment. Emma and the colleagues at Unwasted recently interviewed 10 CEOs about resilience and we speak of what they found. We also speak of sailing, regenerative by design, what the blockers are for circularity, and what the drivers are....

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This conversation with Parul Jagdish (EP275), Thomas Schindler (LI) and Lars Lægreid (LI) is about the Oslo Project. The moonshot project for resourcing and liberating new imaginations for our world. Similar to the Manhattan project, compiling thousands of individuals across the world in the 40’s, the Oslo projects aims to direct $400 bn towards regenerative futures. We spoke of dematerialisation, of what it means to have had luck,...

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A bubbly conversation with Nicole Ayres (LinkedIn) founder of Jumpsuit Agency. We spoke of her journey into Business 3.0. We spoke of storytelling, perspectives, creating portals, shifting world views and trust. We spoke of documentation instead of creation, death as a precondition for life, many reps of falling and what that does for a person. We also speak of magnetism and what becomes possible when you embody the change you wish...

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Parul Punjabi Jagdish (LinkedIn) steward of AIME came by the podcast. We spoke of the importance of the process of familiarising ourselves with who we are, the role and function of imagination. Why death is so central to life and how inviting it into our individual lives as well as our organisations is an invitation to radically shift away from where we are currently headed. We spoke of living cultures and living knowledge, the con...

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