20/40

We all go into interactions with others with our own expectations about how they'll play out but sometimes people don't live up to ours or we don't meet theirs.

20/40 is a podcast celebrating conversations and friendship across generations. Your podcast hosts are Kirstie Fitzpatrick (the 20 something) and Jen Seyderhelm (the 40 something). Kirstie and Jen met while working in the media. Initially their catch...

Jen had just interview Dr Liz Allen who had found the Manolo Blahnik shoes, worn by Carrie Bradshaw in Sex and the City when she married Mr Big, in a local Vinnies for $35! Jen loves op shopping, bus hasn't always felt able to say that proudly.

One of Kirstie's 2021 resolutions is to recycle more and better. She talks about repurposing gifts and when she'll buy second hand or reuse.

At the end of t...

In this episode Kirstie and Jen answer questions you have put to us - are some bridges best burnt, how to recognise toxic traits in others (and ourselves), body love, are we the protagonists of our own life and how many sugar daddies we deserve to look after us. That last response came out of a question around if social media creates new opportunities. Jen has had some interesting opportunities offered to her!

20/40 is a p...

What a year! This is a short, sweet episode where Kirstie and Jen discuss resolutions - if they make them and if they keep them.

20/40 is a podcast celebrating conversations and friendship across generations. Your podcast hosts are Kirstie Fitzpatrick (the 20 something) and Jen Seyderhelm (the 40 something). Kirstie and Jen met while working in the media. Initially their catch ups were defined by work roles which required ...

Jen has been feeling internal anger, but as someone who dislikes conflict, she wonders if her repression is a bad thing and, over a long period of time, can affect her relationships. Kirstie has gotten better at speaking up when a matter isn't right, but prefers to phrase her emotions as "getting upset", as she's dealt with violent anger in the past. Both apologise too much and prefer to keep the peace.

Can one person make a difference to the world? To another person?  Kirstie and Jen discuss altruism, volunteering and whether their media roles count as a contribution. They also talk about people who have made a big difference to them - and their choices are not who each other were expecting.

20/40 is a podcast celebrating conversations and friendship across generations. Your podcast hosts are Kirstie Fitzpatrick (the 20 ...

Neither Jen or Kirstie can imagine a world without their pets. They also think it terribly unfair that pets don't live as long as their humans. Both have lost pets in traumatic circumstances that they've never forgotten. You never forget your pets; they're family.

20/40 is a podcast celebrating conversations and friendship across generations. Your podcast hosts are Kirstie Fitzpatrick (the 20 something) and ...

Fun. Jen savours the fun in her life. Kirstie's not sure what having fun means exactly. They discuss their changing attitudes towards both fun, joy and being funny, how different situations bring out different aspects of themselves and how they both LOVE grocery shopping!

Then, the fun really begins with Jen and Kirstie doing an exercise where they have to describe themselves and each other in three words. Conscientio...

Want to feel old? Macaulay Culkin is 40. Mullets (and god forbid SKULLETS) are in again and Kirstie doesn't know who Jen's teen idol Andrew McCarthy is.

In this episode Kirstie and Jen discuss phones, cars, chain letters, pen pals, travel, fashion and how all this has changed over their lifetimes.

20/40 is a podcast celebrating conversations and friendship across generations. Your podcast hosts are Kirs...

Canberra is a weird place to live and work as it both feels like a big country town and yet you can run into the Prime Minister or Ambassador to Canada having lunch at your local restaurant! Kirstie and Jen reflect on how very normal, and abnormal it is to work in the nation's capital.

20/40 is a podcast celebrating conversations and friendship across generations. Your podcast hosts are Kirstie Fitzpatrick (the 20 som...

Kirstie and Jen this episode have chosen to revisit the affects of coronavirus on their lives, work, friends and family. Four months after their special episode in season 2, they discuss masks, toilet paper hoarding, how they shop, hugging and enforced breaks from family.

20/40 is a podcast celebrating conversations and friendship across generations. Your podcast hosts are Kirstie Fitzpatrick (the 20 something) and Jen Sey...

WELCOME TO SEASON 3! Welcome also to some conversations that are local to the Australian Capital Territory.

Kirstie and Jen call Canberra home. How long do you have to have live there to be a local? What are the characteristics of a typical Canberran and how many kangaroos do you see on your way to work each day?

20/40 is a podcast celebrating conversations and friendship across generations. Your podcast hosts are...

THIS IS THE FINAL EPISODE OF SEASON 2!

But don't fret, they'll be back with more in August :)

In this episode Kirstie suggests avid gardening, sunset watching and listening to talk back radio are indicators you are getting old. Jen's definitions are quite different. From grey pubic hairs to actually enjoying getting up early - Kirstie and Jen talk about what they do that makes them feel old and wha...

In this episode Jen and Kirstie have invited their friends Eddie Williams and Brent Ford to join them to discuss how men think, talk and feel.

10 discoveries -
1) Men gossip more that we realise
2) Dating app stats are extraordinary
3) Men worry about what women talk about with other women
4) Brent and Eddie seek out women for advice on personal stuff more than a male friend
5) Sporting analogies work f...

We are revisiting Season 1 and the topic of manspeak. Next Monday the 15th of June Kirstie and Jen are doing Manspeak 2.0, featuring two of their favourite men and friends, Eddie Williams and Brent Ford. In this episode from season 1, Jen asks whether men and women speak differently via email, phone and face to face. Both wonder what goes on in men's heads that is different to how they think things over. Do they overthink thin...

Big questions - does marriage still matter? It does to Kirstie and it's something she wants and thinks about a lot. Does commitment still matter? Does putting a ring on it really change anything or save a struggling relationship? Kirstie and Jen are not sure they know any of the answers.

20/40 is a podcast celebrating conversations and friendship across generations. Your podcast hosts are Kirstie Fitzpatrick (the 20 something) ...

Part of Jen's COVID-19 experience is a need to reconnect with a couple of people with whom she has 'loose ends'. She's noticed that many of her friends are doing the same. Is this something that is generational as Jen has had more time to have friends and loved ones walk in and out of her life, or is Kirstie experiencing the same thing?

20/40 is a podcast celebrating conversations and friendship across generation...

Despite the rules and regulations around movements during the current COVID-19 situation, both Kirstie and Jen are moving in and out of places. Moving house is, for some people the most stressful experience next to divorce. Kirstie and Jen discuss their worst and best moments that have come out of moving and what it means to have to make big life changes in the middle of a pandemic.

20/40 is a podcast celebrating conversations and f...

Kirstie and Jen recorded this work-related podcast the last time they were able to hang out in a studio together. As the Covid-19 situation unfolded they held on to it because it felt strange talking about work when so many people were now in totally different employment situations than a month ago.

The point of the podcast though remains. Women don’t tend to discuss their job roles with each other like men do. 

So much of Jen's...