The Chad & Cheese Podcast
Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.
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October 23, 2026 • 58 mins
Paris is Burning, Autonomous Fridges are Hacking Back, and the "Hiring Reject Machine" is Eating Candidates Alive
Ever wonder what happens when nearly $400 million in VC cash collides with pure, unadulterated recruiting chaos? Strap in, because Chad and Cheese are back to expose the absolute circus that is modern AI talent tech.
In this episode, we unpack:
Elon’s 30-Second Wonder: Why SpaceX-style thrusters on a car are...
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October 22, 2026 • 6 mins
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October 20, 2026 • 44 mins
If the idea of an AI-powered robot wielding a razor near your vital organs gives you cold sweats, you’re not alone—and according to global workforce statistics, job seekers are feeling that exact same terror about their careers.
In this chaotic, live episode from Amsterdam, co-hosts Joel Cheesman and Chad Sowash bring a microphone and a healthy dose of snark to four brave HR industry leaders:
Rika Coppens CEO...
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October 16, 2026 • 63 mins
On the latest episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, Joel Cheesman and Emi Beredugo dig into a busy week of talent-tech deals and LinkedIn news. Acquisitions, resignations and bad decisions are back, baby!
SAP has acquired skills-intelligence company TechWolf, which will integrate with SuccessFactors while remaining independent. Juicebox has picked up the intellectual property and assets of sourcing platform Fetcher. Humanly ha...
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October 15, 2026 • 3 mins
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October 13, 2026 • 36 mins
Talent acquisition teams are currently being expected to pull off the ultimate corporate hat trick: hire at breakneck speed, manifest unicorn candidates out of thin air, slash budgets down to pennies, and somehow prove it with shiny metrics. In this session, ringmasters Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman—hosts of The Chad & Cheese Podcast—are joined by brave survivors Kayleen Weaver (Director of Talent Acquisition at Ame...
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October 9, 2026 • 56 mins
Live from Amsterdam where redheads combust in the sun and nobody uses e-scooters—the Chad and Cheese crew are back with guest star Stephen McGrath to tackle HR’s messiest sagas:
Metaview’s $60M Pivot: How a basic, commoditized note-taking app rebranded as an "agentic AI" messiah.
LinkedIn's Massive Data Purge: LinkedIn is boot-kicking third-party scrapers (RIP Gem, PIN, and NeuroScale)
Palantir vs. ...
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October 8, 2026 • 3 mins
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October 6, 2026 • 46 mins
Joel and Chad welcome Nathan Labenz, host of The Cognitive Revolution and a self-described full-time student of AI. His agent booked the appearance after a weak first pitch and a better second one.
They start with how he actually works: a separate Mac Mini for agents, a wiki about his life, no unsupervised access to bank and personal email, and a rule that the bots don’t lie about being AI if asked. That setup is the hook fo...
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October 2, 2026 • 65 mins
Joel and Maureen are back, slightly singed from RecFest, to argue about whether the industry is a warm community or a room full of under-resourced people begging an AI agent to reinvent the email alert.
Also on the menu: LinkedIn cosplaying as TikTok, Meta finally peeling the cameras off the glasses Maureen still will not buy.
The job market gets the usual treatment — sturdy headlines, miserable humans, bots applying as nu...
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October 1, 2026 • 5 mins
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September 29, 2026 • 37 mins
How do just 20 recruiters handle over 150,000 hires and 7 million annual applications? On this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman chat with Shay Johnson, VP of Strategic HR Partnerships at Compass Group, to explore the future of high-volume hiring.
Shay breaks down how the global food service leader modernized its talent pipeline to eliminate candidate drop-off, targeted candidate re-engagem...
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September 25, 2026 • 44 mins
What do a big couch, a can of Stella, and four of the biggest personalities in recruitment have in common? They’re all live from RecFest this week, covering the hottest topics in the world of hiring.
Chad, Joel, Mo’, and J.T. are on hand to talk about everything from an HR tech founder facing up to 20 years behind bars to the great iced-latte-in-job-interviews debate sweeping the land.
First up, the crew covers all th...
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September 24, 2026 • 4 mins
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September 22, 2026 • 35 mins
Is the resume dying — or is it just lying and on life support while AI agents pump out 11,000 fake-looking apps a minute.
On this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, Joel and Chad sit down with Etan Bernstein of the Velocity Network Foundation, an HR lifer who wants to stop the whack-a-mole and put a chip in the talent system the way banks killed mag-stripe fraud.
Self-reported CVs, ghost jobs, North Korean bots, an...
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September 18, 2026 • 69 mins
This week on Chad and Cheese, Joel and JT unpack four stories that actually matter if you hire, manage, or look for work. Buckle-up buttercup!
Meta just reversed two of its most controversial internal bets: pushing individual contributors back into middle-management seats after the layoffs, and pausing a monitoring program employees believed was training their AI replacements. The hosts dig into what the internal data showed, why ...
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September 17, 2026 • 5 mins
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September 15, 2026 • 39 mins
SmarterX founder and CEO Paul Roetzer joins the boys for a chat about how AI is reshaping the workforce in ways most don't suspect. Paul sold his marketing agency in 2021 as AI was already writing at near-human level—then ChatGPT showed up and things went into hyperdrive.
Bentley and Gallup’s 2026 numbers say most Americans, especially young ones, don’t trust companies that use AI, while Microsoft, Google, and e...
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September 11, 2026 • 65 mins
Joel, Chad , and Emi break down the intersection of AI recruitment technology, global labor markets, and industry regulation, alongside pop culture banter and sports highlights.
Key Topics Covered:Pop Culture & Fantasy Football: Reactions to Steve Ballmer's retro Microsoft commercials and NBA ban, US Open tennis highlights, and fantasy football draft grades.
HR Tech & Startups: Spotlights on Sonic Jobs' LLM integrat...
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September 10, 2026 • 4 mins
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