Husband Material
So you want to outgrow porn. But how? How do you change your brain, heal your heart, and save your relationship? Welcome to Husband Material with Drew Boa, where we answer all these questions and more! Each episode makes it easier for you to achieve lasting freedom from porn—without fighting an exhausting battle. Porn is a pacifier. This podcast will help you outgrow it and become a sexually mature man of God.
Episodes
What if the very traits that got you hooked on porn—curiosity, childlike wonder, and awe—are actually keys to your freedom? As Jason Mellard explains, these qualities aren't bad; they are simply waiting to be reclaimed and redeemed. You'll learn about observation vs. obsession, building with vision vs. escaping into fantasy, and appreciating beauty vs. idolizing it...
Bonus: Stay tuned for a spontaneous musical moment wher...
What exactly is a glimmer? Why do glimmers matter for outgrowing porn? Learn 3 ways to get the most out of your glimmers—maximizing moments of joy, peace, and connection.
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Where is God when we suffer? How does grief intensify sexual temptation? Why do we need to "run toward the roar" of triggers and traumas instead of avoiding them?
Hear Davey Blackburn tell the heartbreaking story of how his wife of 7 years was murdered in their home during a break-in, leaving him as a single father to their 15-month-old son. Davey also describes how God has begun to write a beautiful redemption story of h...
What if the desires you've been suppressing are not bad, but simply underdeveloped? In this episode, Jay Stringer explores five core longings that drive us—and why we need to welcome them rather than try to conquer them or shut them down. You'll hear how desire is shaped by childhood experiences, pornography, and other forces—as well as how desire can be reshaped and resurrected.
What is redemptive risk? Why is it essential for healing and outgrowing porn? In this episode, you'll learn why and how to embrace redemptive risk, the difference between dirty pain and clean pain, and three steps to consider as you discern your next redemptive risk:
- Start with "why"
- Count the cost
- Own your strength
What redemptive risk(s) are you currently taking? Let us know in the Husband Material Community!
Men need men. In this episode, Tom Zuniga champions the value of brotherhood and "chosen family"—especially in a culture where romantic marriage seems like the only place where intimacy is possible. Tom shares his story of growing up feeling lonely and different, experiencing same-sex attraction, and discovering the beauty of following Jesus in community with other men.
Tom Zuniga is the Director of Your Other Brothers, a ...
In this episode, longtime friend of the podcast and author Sathiya Sam shares why porn recovery can literally save lives, what true freedom looks like (eternal, internal, and external) and practical advice on how to find purpose beyond porn.
Sathiya Sam, founder of Deep Clean Coaching, helps men overcome pornography addiction, inspired by his own 15-year journey. Author of The Last Relapse and host of The Man Within, he has guided t...
Do you know what it's like to feel numb, drained, and disconnected? This is the most common precursor to watching porn: the "flop" reaction. In this episode, you'll learn what the flop reaction is, why it's not necessarily bad, and three ways to navigate low-energy moments without crashing into a relapse.
Strategy #1: Flop with a purpose
Strategy #2: Flop with a friend
Strategy #3: Flop with your body
How does physical fitness support sexual and spiritual health? In this episode, Alex VanHouten describes what it looks like to faithfully care for your body. You'll learn about the twin pitfalls of pride/envy and gluttony/sloth, how working out can help you process emotions and sexual urges, and what fitness is ultimately about: reclaiming the territory of your body for the kingdom of God.
If you're in a season of depression, darkness, or difficulty, please listen to this episode. Justin McRoberts and Scott Erickson offer deep wisdom on how to welcome all that is within you (yes, even that). This interview is punctuated by powerful poems and prayers for whatever "low" you might be going through.
Justin McRoberts is the author of 8 books, including In The Low: Honest Prayers For Dark Seasons. He lives in...
What are HMA Triads? What makes them different from accountability groups? Why is joining a small group essential for outgrowing porn? Rich Savoy explains everything you need to know about HMA Triads, what makes them different than porn accountability groups, and why you should consider joining one. Join HMA by January 18, 2026 at joinHMA.com.
Rich Savoy is HMA's Director Of Small Groups. He is also a board member of Husband Ma...
God designed your brain to heal itself under the right conditions. How can we understand self-healing from a Christian perspective? What are the optimal conditions for self-healing? How can self-healing accelerate the process of outgrowing porn? In this episode, you'll not only get answers to these questions—you'll witness a powerful demonstration of Brainspotting with Drew Boa and Mike Chapman.
What is Brainspotting? How can it help men heal and outgrow porn? Find out from Dr. David Grand himself! In this episode, you'll learn how Brainspotting works, why it's unique, and how it accelerates recovery from porn/sex addiction.
David Grand, PhD is the developer of Brainspotting, the groundbreaking relational brain-body, mindfulness-based method. He is the author of Brainspotting: The Revolutionary New Therapy for Rap...
What can the movie "K-Pop Demon Hunters" teach us about shame, hiding, and healing through vulnerability and connection? In this extended episode, Drew and his friend Andy offer an in-depth analysis of the film—addressing theological concerns, highlighting takeaways for sexual recovery, and tracing each character's redemptive journey. Enjoy!
Drew and Andy became friends at Wheaton College, serving together in college,...
In this incredibly vulnerable episode, Nate Larkin tells the story of how he returned to lying, hiding, binge drinking, and destructive sexual behavior while leading a sexual recovery organization. You'll also hear Nate's wisdom on how to be vulnerable as a leader and the importance of telling the truth.
Nate Larkin is the founder of the Samson Society, a fellowship of Christian men who are serious about authenticity, comm...
What’s next for Husband Material? In this episode, you’ll hear the exciting new vision for how we want to help the next generation of young men and couples change their brains, heal their hearts, and save their relationships.
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How can technology help you connect, heal, and outgrow porn? In this episode, Chandler Rogers tells his story of finding freedom through connection with others (even online) and shares what he has learned from overseeing hundreds of online groups. You'll find out what you're missing out on if you track your sobriety without tracking your recovery—and what healthy, shame-free accountability looks like.
How do you see yourself? Do you ever feel like a villain, like everything is your fault? Do you ever feel like a victim, overwhelmed and powerless to change your life? Do you ever feel like a hero, as if you have to succeed because the whole world is depending on you? Today, we’re talking about how to see yourself accurately and understand yourself better through three lenses: your villain story, your victim story, and your hero st...
What exactly is arousal? Is it more than just sexual? In this episode, you'll learn the four types of arousal (uppers, downers, all-arounders, and deprivation) and how we use addiction to avoid intimacy ("into messy"). Along the way, you'll also find out why recovery is not a "don't touch your penis" program and how the skill of "tension holding" can transform your relationships. Great c...
In this episode, Doug and Drew explain their powerful, unique approach to psychodrama: DIRECT. You'll learn how this powerful modality can help you experience deeper healing and freedom from porn.
D.I.R.E.C.T. = Dynamic, Intuitive, Redemptive, Embodied, Communal Transformation.
Come experience D.I.R.E.C.T. at a Husband Material Healing Weekend! See all upcoming healing weekends and retreats at husbandmaterial.com/retreat
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