Mind Over Murder

Mind Over Murder

Listen to Mind Over Murder, the true crime podcast from victim's advocates Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley. Kristin is a researcher, writer and teacher from Virginia. Bill is an entertainment executive who is also the brother of a murder victim, now living in Connecticut. His sister Cathy Thomas along with her girlfriend Rebecca Dowski, were the first two victims in the still unsolved Colonial Parkway Murders ,which claimed the lives of 8 young people near Williamsburg from 1986 to 1989. They moderate the Colonial Parkway Murders FaceBook and Mind Over Murder pages with more than 20,000 followers. Join them for thoughtful true crime advocacy. Now celebrating their fifth season with 380 podcast episodes and more than ONE MILLION DOWNLOADS. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/mind-over-murder--4847179/support.

Episodes

NEW: Human Trafficking with Jerome Elam

October 13, 2025 • 51 mins
Join "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley as they interview Jerome Elam, expert on human trafficking and chairman of the Trafficking in America Task Force.  Learn how kids, young people and adults are trafficked and how they are drawn into this sordid multimillion dollar business where humans are traded for sex, drugs, money, and even human organs.

Trafficking in America Task Force:

https://traffickinginamericat...
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BONUS: The D B Cooper Vortex (Part 4)

October 9, 2025 • 37 mins
"Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss the mysterious case of D B Cooper with Darren Schaefer, the host of "The Cooper Vortex" podcast.  Dan "DB" Cooper, who successfully hijacked a Northwest Airlines passenger jet and parachuted into the dense forest of the Pacific Northwest. He was never caught, although a small amount of the $200,000 ransom was later recovered. This bonus episode is Part 4 of 4 parts on ...
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NEW: Colonial Parkway Murders: Ask Us Anything (Part 2)

October 6, 2025 • 40 mins
Join "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley in a new  "Ask Us Anything" episode focused on the Colonial Parkway Murders.  We answer questions, give a status report on the Colonial Parkway Murders case-- still unsolved after nearly 39 years--, highlight more stalling from the FBI, new potential accomplices to suspect Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. , and much more.  This is Part 2 of our brand new "Ask Us Anything" series ...
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BONUS: The D B Cooper Vortex (Part 3)

October 2, 2025 • 41 mins
"Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss the mysterious case of D B Cooper with Darren Schaefer, the host of "The Cooper Vortex" podcast.  Dan "DB" Cooper, who successfully hijacked a Northwest Airlines passenger jet and parachuted into the dense forest of the Pacific Northwest. He was never caught, although a small amount of the $200,000 ransom was later recovered. This bonus episode is Part 3 of 4 parts on ...
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NEW: Colonial Parkway Murders: Ask Us Anything (Part 1)

September 29, 2025 • 43 mins
Join "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley in a new  "Ask Us Anything" episode focused on the Colonial Parkway Murders.  We answer questions, give a status report on the Colonial Parkway Murders case-- still unsolved after nearly 39 years--, highlight more stalling from the FBI, new potential accomplices to suspect Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. , and much more.  This is Part 1 of our brand new "Ask Us Anything" series ...
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BONUS: Skyjacked w DB Cooper (Part 2)

September 25, 2025 • 29 mins
"Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss the mysterious case of D B Cooper, who successfully hijacked a Northwest Airlines passenger jet and parachuted into the dense forest of the Pacific Northwest. He was never caught, although a small amount of the $200,000 ransom was later recovered. This bonus episode is Part 2 of 4 parts on the Dan "DB" Cooper case and originally ran in May/June 2025.

October 2023 Popula...
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NEW: Bone Valley with Author Gilbert King

September 22, 2025 • 47 mins
Join Pulitzer Prize willing author Gilbert King as he sits down with "Mind Over Murder" podcast hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss his new book and hit podcast "Bone Valley." The book and podcast tells a true story of injustice and redemption in the heart of Florida-- in 1988, Leo Schofield was arrested and charged with the murder of his wife, Michelle-- a murder he did not commit. Leo served more than 30 years, and wa...
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BONUS: Skyjacked w DB Cooper (Part 1)

September 19, 2025 • 47 mins
"Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss the mysterious case of D B Cooper, who successfully hijacked a Northwest Airlines passenger jet and parachuted into the dense forest of the Pacific Northwest. He was never caught, although a small amount of the $200,000 ransom was later recovered. This bonus episode is Part 1 of 4 parts on the Dan "DB" Cooper case and originally ran in May/June 2025.

October 2023 Popula...
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NEW: CrimeCon Denver 2025 Report

September 15, 2025 • 45 mins
Join "Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley as they discuss the recent CrimeCon 2025 held a week ago in Denver-- nearly 7,000 fans gathered for a fun, informative and inspiring weekend covering all things true crime.  We get into the CrimeCon CLUE Awards, great interactions with fans, podcasters and the denizens of Creator's Row, CrimeCon likes and dislikes (way more likes than dislikes!), and preview CrimeCon 2026...
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BONUS: The Zodiac Killer with Michael Butterfield (Part 2)

September 12, 2025 • 36 mins
Michael Butterfield, author of "The Zodiac Killer: The Story of America's Most Elusive Murderer," joins "Mind Over Murder" cohosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss his new book, his longtime research into the still unsolved Zodiac case, and his website, ZodiacKillerFacts.com. Will Zodiac ever be identified?  Will the remaining Zodiac ciphers be solved?  Are there really similarities between the Zodiac case and the Colonial...
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NEW: FBI Profiler James Fitzgerald's New Book

September 8, 2025 • 48 mins
Legendary FBI profiler James R. Fitzgerald joins "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss his latest book, A Journey to the Center of the Mind, which covers his work on many high profile FBI cases including the Unabomb case, 9/11, the Olympic Park bombing in Atlanta, the JonBenet Ramsey case, his work on the hit TV series Criminal Minds and much more.

A Journey to the Center of the Mind - Book IV: The (L...
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BONUS: The Zodiac Killer with Michael Butterfield (Part 1)

September 4, 2025 • 42 mins
Michael Butterfield, author of "The Zodiac Killer: The Story of America's Most Elusive Murderer," joins "Mind Over Murder" cohosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss his new book, his longtime research into the still unsolved Zodiac case, and his website, ZodiacKillerFacts.com. Will Zodiac ever be identified?  Will the remaining Zodiac ciphers be solved?  Are there really similarities between the Zodiac case and the Colonial...
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BONUS: American Detective: Colonial Parkway Murders w Danny Plott (Part 2)

September 1, 2025 • 29 mins
"Mind Over Murder" podcast host Bill Thomas asks retired Virginia State Police Special Agent Danny Plott questions regarding Joe Kenda's  "American Detective: Colonial Parkway Murders" TV special on the Investigation Discovery network.  Are Joe Kenda and Danny Plott on the right track to help solve this case of serial murder?  This bonus episode is part 2 of 2 parts of our interview with Danny Plott in the American Detective: Colon...
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BONUS: American Detective: Colonial Parkway Murders w Danny Plott (Part 1)

August 28, 2025 • 33 mins
"Mind Over Murder" podcast host Bill Thomas asks retired Virginia State Police Special Agent Danny Plott questions regarding Joe Kenda's  "American Detective: Colonial Parkway Murders" TV special on the Investigation Discovery network.  Are Joe Kenda and Danny Plott on the right track to help solve this case of serial murder?  This bonus episode is part 1 of 2 parts of our interview with Danny Plott in the American Detective: Colon...
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NEW: Shocking Crimes Across Virginia

August 25, 2025 • 44 mins
"Mind Over Murder" podcast co-hosts Kristin Dilley and Bill Thomas discuss three shocking cases across the Commonwealth of Virginia, including the murder of Holly Hatcher in Rockingham County, attempted murder by torching of City Councilman Lee Vogler in Danville, and the mysterious murder of Navy sailor Angelina Resendez at the Norfolk Navy Base.

Mom of Country Musician Is Stabbed to Death in Home Invasion Before Dad Kills the Assa...
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BONUS: Ask Us Anything in American Detective (Part 2)

August 21, 2025 • 45 mins
"Mind Over Murder" podcast hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley reply to an "Ask Us Anything" series of listener questions regarding Joe Kenda's  "American Detective: Colonial Parkway Murders" TV special on the Investigation Discovery network.  This is part 2 of our "Ask Us Anything" on the American Detective: Colonial Parkway Murders, and originally ran on April 21, 2025.

American Detective: Colonial Parkway Murders:

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NEW: And Then Came the Blues Katrina Brownlee

August 18, 2025 • 31 mins
Former NYPD Detective Kristina Brownlee joins "Mind Over Murder" podcast co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss her new book "And Then Came the Blues: My Story of Survival on Both Sides of the Badge." The book tells the story of Katrina's survival after her fiance tried to kill her, leaving her lying bleeding with 10 bullets in her body, her decision to push back against domestic violence by joining the NYPD, rising to ...
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BONUS: Ask Us Anything in American Detective (Part 1)

August 15, 2025 • 48 mins
"Mind Over Murder" podcast hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley reply to an "Ask Us Anything" series of listener questions regarding Joe Kenda's  "American Detective: Colonial Parkway Murders" TV special on the Investigation Discovery network.  This is part 1 of our "Ask Us Anything" on the American Detective: Colonial Parkway Murders, and originally ran on April 14, 2025.

American Detective: Colonial Parkway Murders:

https://www.you...
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NEW: Ann Rule Bio by Author Cathy Scott

August 11, 2025 • 47 mins
"Mind Over Murder" podcast hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley are joined by best selling true crime author Cathy Scott, who fills us in on her new writing project, a biography of the legendary author Ann Rule. 

Cathy Scott Website:  http://www.cathyscott.com/

CrimeCon:  We’re going to CrimeCon again, folks! Join us in Denver for new merch, some MOM listener hangouts, and a lot of fun! Use the code MINDOVERMURDER to get 10% off your...
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BONUS: Chowchilla Kidnapping w FBI Profiler Jim Clemente

August 8, 2025 • 45 mins
"Mind Over Murder" podcast hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley meet with former FBI Profiler (and producer and writer) Jim Clemente to discuss the parole process for the 3 men convicted in mass kidnapping of 26 elementary school students and their bus driver in rural Chowchilla, California.  The crime, the largest mass kidnapping in United States history, shocked the nation in 1976.  Should the 3 kidnappers have served longer?  Ho...
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