Siblings in Zion

Siblings in Zion

Ex-Mormon siblings Brother Dan and Sister Lisa discuss Mormonism, LDS culture, religiosity, atheism, mortality, personal growth & the examined life.

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April 21, 2024 47 mins

Sister Lisa shares the story and meaning of her first tattoo, an update on her feelings around her grad school experience, and her thoughts on reading ‘The Testaments’ by Margaret Atwood.

The siblings then discuss recent thoughts around death and the treatment of remains, and their potential preferences for their own bodies. 

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Sister Lisa shares her struggles and thoughts on her grad school experience as she prepares to be a therapist, and how her religious past informs her approach and understanding of the system. 

The siblings read some *fascinating* articles on tithing from the most recent issue of Liahona, and discuss how much they think about this whole Mormonism thing these days and how much they really ne...

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Sister Lisa shares more eyebrow-raising notes from her BYU-Idaho classes. Dating, sexuality, gender and marriage roles, revelation, ’NCMO’, suppressing desire, boundaries, bogus statistics, terrible advice & more!

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Sister Lisa shares highlights from her notes taken during several classes at BYU-Idaho, including some real whoppers from ‘Prep for Temple Marriage’ that drive Brother Dan to bewilderment and the both of them to giggles.

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July 29, 2023 21 mins

Bonus material from our episode ‘Christian & Atheist Walk Into a Bar’ - Comparing Christian and Mormon hymns, the power of music and art in relation to faith in God, as well as a Christian perspective on Stoicism and the precariousness of interpreting the Bible.

Bonus points to those who have seen SLC Punk! - https://youtu.be/6qr-wDh95TM

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May 21, 2023 99 mins

Dan and Lisa welcome Brother Bryan, a Christian who was previously involved with the Four Square church and now associates with the Church of the Nazarene. 

Bryan and Dan have had several fruitful discussions around Faith, Atheism, Christian denominations, biblical literalism, similarities and contrasts in their respective religious experiences, and have have found friendship and comrader...

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January 22, 2023 44 mins

For those who have already read or are quite familiar with the 'King Follett Discourse', this episode of our reading and commentary is abridged to contain less of the text read aloud. You can find the complete version previously published ... 

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In this episode the siblings read and comment on 'The King Follett Discourse', its theological significance, and its influence on Mormonism.

In April of 1844, Joseph Smith spoke to a crow...

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In this episode the siblings read and comment on 'The King Follett Discourse', its theological significance, and its influence on Mormonism.

In April of 1844, Joseph Smith spoke to a crowd of many thousands (saints and detractors alike) and delivered what would be the most directly recorded public address of his life, and the last such address he would give before his death in June.

The sermon is also one of the most consequential ...

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September 25, 2022 41 mins

The siblings return to kick off Season 5! No plan, just going for it.

They talk about what is 'working for them', current events in Mormon world, 'Keep Sweet' and the FLDS, Book Reports!, how they've changed since starting this podcast, and how they will be approaching this season's content and schedule.

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In this season’s finale, the siblings welcome special guest Brother Jordan to tell his story of converting to the LDS church at 18, going the Missionary Training Center *twice*, serving a mission in Buenos Aires where he was held at gunpoint multiple times and suffered from ‘Jeep Butt’, attended BYU for a year before finally deciding to stop playing the game, how he eventually befriended Brother Dan, and how they recently reconnect...

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Sister Lisa concludes the journey of reading from her past as she shares exchanges between herself and the President of the Florida Jacksonville Mission, where she devoted 18 months to proselytize for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Stress, fear of failure, indoctrination, cognitive dissonance, rejection, judgement, repression, and 'love' ...

Lisa also has Brother Dan read a ridiculous document entitled 'The Fellow...

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Sister Lisa concludes sharing excerpts from the many emails she sent to family and friends each 'Preparation Day' while she served a mission for the LDS church.

Training other missionaries, feelings of inadequacy, ‘dying’ a missionary death, explaining the mormon slang term ‘trunky’, and convincing herself that it all was worth it … somehow …

This episode is also available entirely on video on YouTube, complete with helpful (and fu...

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Sister Lisa shares excerpts from the many emails she sent to family and friends each 'Preparation Day' while she served a mission for the LDS church. Stories of drunk men giving blessings, flat tires, slammed doors, cognitive dissonance, snake bites, and stalking the local Florida population.

This episode is also available entirely on video on YouTube, complete with helpful (and funny) visual aids - Check it out and subscribe for m...

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In this bonus episode you will hear a special presentation of the Latter-Day Lesbian podcast on which Brother Dan was a guest!

LDL is a podcast about an 'Ex-Mormon gay girl trying to figure out her life'. That girl is Shelly and her partner and co-host is Mary, a former evangelical christian. For more than three years Dan has been the audio producer for the show. In episode 108 (January 2021) he joined them to talk about how they e...

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April 10, 2022 51 mins

We return to Sister Lisa's journals as she shares from her time serving a mission in Jacksonville, Florida for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Many companions, many breakdowns, many prayers, many letters, many tears. Much indoctrination ...

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March 27, 2022 39 mins

In this episode, Brother Dan concludes in sharing his written ‘Shower Thoughts’ beyond Mormonism. This set of musings trend towards mortality, atheism, philosophy, religiosity, logical fallacies, nature, humanism, and the future.

‘Religion really is a further complication on top of something we don’t understand truly, but we as humans have a problem with that. We gotta explain it somehow. And for a lot of people the easiest answer ...

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March 13, 2022 46 mins

In this episode, it is Brother Dan’s turn to share his own writings - ‘Shower Thoughts’ you might call them. This set of musings came while studying The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, its history and doctrine, and contemplating its validity in the real world as well as its role in his life.

‘I want to study Joseph Smith because I want to know him, ...

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February 27, 2022 54 mins

As we continue in Sister Lisa’s journals, we arrive at the Missionary Training Center in Provo, Utah - where young men and women encounter a kind of ‘indoctrination bootcamp’ before heading out for 1.5-2 years to spread 'the gospel' 24/7.

She shares her experience of acquiescing to the control over her life including her communications, reading materials, schedu...

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February 13, 2022 49 mins

Sister Lisa continues her journey through the many journals she kept during her young life as a Mormon. She recalls her time at BYU-Idaho, the insulation it encouraged, her decision to leave and serve a mission for the church, and her first experience with the LDS temple endowment.

‘They have you surrounded on all sides, so you might as well surrender.’

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January 30, 2022 54 mins

The first in a series of episodes in which Sister Lisa presents entries from the many journals she kept during her young life, essentially documenting her indoctrination in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Girl’s summer camp, Personal Progress, Seminary, Father’s blessings, and the intervention that convinced her to go to BYU Idaho instead of following her intuition.

This episode is the first to be produced entirely...

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