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Deporting people to dangerous countries? Detaining them indefinitely without bond? Bad, actually. 

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In honor of America’s birthday, join Peter, Rhiannon, and Michael for part two of their Supreme Court retrospective. This time they track how the myth of judicial neutrality has haunted America for centuries. 

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Do we have to accept the Supreme Court as the final arbiter of constitutional meaning? Legal scholars Niko Bowie and Daphne Renan say no! They join the podcast to talk about their new book, Supremacy: How Rule by the Court Replaced Government by the People, which argues against “judicial supremacy” and looks to America’s past to recover a more democratic constitutional tradition. 

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It’s fall and you know what that means: a chill is in the air and in Sam Alito’s heart. 

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Friend of the pod Josie Duffy Rice joins Peter and Michael to talk about her new podcast, The Backfire Effect. Her show digs into the case of Temujin Kensu, a man sentenced to life in prison for the murder of Scott Macklem. Has the wrong man been in prison this whole time?

Listen to The Backfire Effect wherever you get your podcasts. 

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We have to let the President build a ninety thousand square feet of ballroom.

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Peter, Rhiannon, and Michael dig into some recent headlines including plans to ban halal food in Texas, John Roberts’ Substack debut, the disturbing truth behind DNC spam texts, and more.

Check out Adam Bonica’s investigation here.

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Yet another opinion where the Supreme Court decides that money is speech and bribery doesn’t exist without a big sack of money. 

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Executive agencies are fake by the way… 

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Peter, Rhiannon, and Michael take a break from case law to discuss the possibility of stolen midterms, the evil lawyers defending Kalshi and Polymarket, and SCOTUSBlog’s subtle conservative makeover.

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It’s not racist to think, act, and talk like a racist.

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The Supreme Court backs West Virginia in banning it's only openly trans student athlete from the girls cross country team.

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Peter, Rhiannon, and Michael take a hard look at media coverage of this Supreme Court term. 

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Birthright citizenship, widely considered settled law before Trump tried to overturn it via executive order last year, escaped this term unscathed by one single vote. Peter, Rhiannon, and Michael explore the various mental illnesses, brainworms, and ahistorical nonsense that led to such a close decision. 

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In honor of America’s birthday, join Peter, Rhiannon, Michael and University of Pennsylvania Law Professor Kermit Roosevelt as they talk through how the Supreme Court greased the wheels for the end of Reconstruction and the rise of Jim Crow.

Check out Kermit’s book The Nation That Never Was: Reconstructing America’s Story.

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Rhiannon interviews Lisa Graves – right‑wing influence expert, former Justice Department official, co‑host of Legal AF, and founder of True North Research – about her latest book, Without Precedent: How Chief Justice Roberts and His Accomplices Rewrote the Constitution and Dismantled Our Rights.

Check out Without Precedent here! 

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In two cases this term, federal inmates sought their freedom based on compassionate release, an early release process that was expanded under the 2018 First Step Act. The Supreme Court denied both requests.

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The 5-4 team dreams up a bigger, better Supreme Court, gives advice to overachieving undergrads and late-blooming law students, and clears up confusion about Rhiannon’s finances. 

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Raccoons are the police now. 

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