I Catch Killers with Gary Jubelin

When his community started making their own weapons and scheming to kill cops, Brodie Finegan Forbes knew it was time to leave the sovereign citizen movement. Scared, alone, and homeless, he did the worst thing a sovcit can do - he went to the police. 

In part two of his chat with Gary, Brodie takes us inside his journey of escaping the sovereign citizen movement, and shares what he’s learnt since. 

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At 21, Brodie Finegan Forbes found himself in the centre of the sovereign citizen movement, which he calls a ‘decentralised, pseudo-legal cult’.

The combination of a troubled childhood, loss of his burgeoning music career, and societal and psychological pressures led him to 24-hour Zoom ‘echo chambers’ where he learned how to challenge authority, take on judges, and terrorise people with paperwork. He was pa...

In Part 2 of Gary’s discussion with former detective Dr Vince Hurley and reformed prisoner Claude Robinson on I Catch Killers, the unlikely duo pull back the curtain on a justice system that is failing victim survivors, perpetrators, and the public alike. They argue that the current approach to tackling domestic violence is little more than a "ten-billion-dollar business" that prioritises prison beds over prevention. However,...

Is the ‘tough on crime approach’ working to keep people safe? 

In this episode of I Catch Killers, Gary is joined by two men from opposite sides of the law who have arrived at the same radical conclusion - the justice system is broken for everyone.

Dr Vince Hurley is a former Detective turned academic, and Claude Robinson is a former heroin addict and prisoner who now runs Rainbow Lodge, a residential center helpin...

What are the steps a lone actor takes when preparing a violent attack? Can they be stopped?

In Part 2 of forensic psychologist turned detective Ian Cherrington’s chat with Gary Jubelin on I Catch Killers, Ian unpacks warning signs and ‘leakage’ that suggest planning is underway. 

Ian shares practical ways to support people showing early extremist views, and explains how lone actors differ from the ‘sove...

As a teenager, Ian Cherrington became fascinated by the psychology of serial killers - a fascination that would shape his entire career. He began as a forensic psychologist studying the minds of serial killers before making an unconventional leap into frontline policing as a detective in the UK. After years investigating homicides and linking crimes across the country, Ian transitioned into counter-terrorism and lone actor threat a...

After 40 years of silence, former sex crimes detective Graeme Simpfendorfer confronted the man he says abused him in a recorded phone call.

In part two of his powerful conversation with Gary Jubelin on I Catch Killers, Graeme opens up about the anxiety of giving a police statement, a process he’d navigated countless times professionally, but never as a victim survivor, and takes us inside the harrowing years-long fight for ju...

Graeme Simpfendorfer spent 27 years in the Victoria Police, leading elite squads in Homicide and Sexual Offences. He was a veteran detective catching predators until a training lecture on grooming behaviours unlocked a trauma he had suppressed for decades. Graeme realised that as a teenager, he had been the victim of the very crimes he spent his professional life investigating.

In this episode, Gary and Graeme discuss the "war of a...

Twelve months after the brutal murder of her daughter Audrey Griffin, Kathleen Kirby returns to discuss the "numb" reality of her life. Unable to grieve while fighting for justice, Kathleen has stepped in where the system failed - organising community walks and personally tracking down overlooked CCTV footage.

Gary and Kathleen explore the devastating "ripple effect" of homicide and the lack of support for families left behind, fro...

In 1974, a 17-year-old girl in Sydney answered the door to a man claiming to be an encyclopaedia salesman who carried nothing with him and left her with a chilling "full body rush" of fear.

Decades later, that woman's daughter - award-winning author Candice Fox - realised this family story aligned with the timeline of two unsolved homicides from the same neighbourhood. Candice detai...

Author Candice Fox doesn't just write crime; she lives it through research for her books, including a chilling five-hour, "full-contact" visit in a San Quentin jail with one of America’s worst serial killers, the notorious "Toolbox Killer.”

In this episode of I Catch Killers, Candice gives host Gary Jubelin a peek into a childhood she calls a madhouse…growing up with more than 150 foster siblings and a father who...

On a stormy day, Cameron Hardiman’s Air Wing team got a call: there was a man in the middle of Bass Strait clinging to a broken yacht. What should have been a routine rescue turned brutal. 

In Part 2, Cameron explains how that terrifying rescue pushed him into the AFP, where he broke up raids in the Solomon Islands, and played delivery driver for a $200 million cocaine bust. Cameron was eventually diagnosed with PTSD, an...

Cameron Hardiman has taken an unusual path in his 35-year police career. Starting out as a cop, Cameron was nearby for the Russell St bombing and witnessed the aftermath of Betty Grech’s murder by her husband Michael Grech. 

Given the opportunity to be a detective or in the Air Wing, Cameron chose the latter and spent 14 years in a helicopter. Gary Jubelin speaks to Cameron about why he chose the chopper, and the variety...

After 14 years in maximum security, Anthony Jones is a changed man, but the path was written in blood. He survived a horrific prison ambush where he was doused in boiling liquid and stabbed ten times, yet he chose to forgive his attackers rather than retaliate. Gary explores Anthony’s radical transformation from a "broken boy" into a qualified pastor and his mission to lead the "No Chance Movement" for at-risk youth .

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At a 2010 house party, Anthony Jones was involved in a drunken brawl, which led to a tragedy that impacted countless lives. Anthony stabbed his friend, Edan Brown, who died from the injuries. 

Charged with murder, Anthony broke the criminal code and pled guilty as the first step to taking responsibility for his actions - a move that saw his own mother disown him in open court. With the Brown family’s blessing, Gary Jubel...

For a world champion, life in the spotlight is a bizarre mix of extreme wealth and unexpected betrayals. As Jeff Fenech rose to international superstardom, he found himself inside the inner circles of men like Mike Tyson and Kerry Packer. From training a heavy-hitting legend to experiencing the extravagant generosity of a billionaire, Jeff saw a side of the world few ever encounter.

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For Jeff Fenech, the Newtown Police Boys Club wasn't a place to find a career - it was a place to find a fight. By age 13, Jeff was a "troublesome teenager" already hardened by street gangs and stints in youth detention centres. Everything changed when he met legendary trainer Johnny Lewis, a man who would become his father figure and steer him toward the discipline of the ring.

The rise of the "Marrickville Mauler" was nothing sho...

After sparking the Wood Royal Commission, Deborah Locke had a target on her back. Her “police family” turned on her, and Deborah feared for her life. In Part 2, Gary and Deborah talk about the fallout from being a whistleblower and what’s changed in policing since the Wood Royal Commission. 

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For Deborah Locke, joining the NSW Police was a ticket to a better life. After joining the police in 1984, Deborah found herself in the seedy underbelly of police corruption. Bribery, drinking, and sexual harassment were commonplace - until Deborah decided she had to stand up for what was right, even if it cost her everything.

The Wood Royal Commission was a turning point in Australian policing. This is the story of how it came to ...