Burn the Boats
Burn the Boats is an award-winning podcast featuring intimate conversations with change-makers from every walk of life. Host Ken Harbaugh interviews politicians, authors, activists, and others about the most important issues of our time.
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April 26, 2024 • 40 mins
Ray Suarez is a longtime broadcaster and journalist who you’ve probably heard on PBS or NPR. In his new book, We are Home, Ray sits down with several recent immigrants to the United States, and through their stories, paints a picture of what these “New Americans” have faced.
In this interview, Ray talks about the book, anti-immigrant sentiments, and the history of immigration in the US.
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April 23, 2024 • 45 mins
Reed Galen is a co-founder of The Lincoln Project and host of the Lincoln Project podcast. He’s an independent political strategist who has spent years advising Fortune 50 companies, and has also worked on several prominent republican campaigns.
In this interview, Reed discusses how impactful Lincoln Project ads have been, how Trump has responded to them, and the MAGA movement as a whole.
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April 16, 2024 • 48 mins
Bruce Hoffman and Jacob Ware are fellows at the Council on Foreign Relations, and co-authored God, Guns, and Sedition, in which they map the rise of far-right terrorism in the US, and offer ways to counter it.
In this interview, they discuss their book, the threat of political violence, the history of far-right groups in the US, and how the 2nd amendment played a significant role in creating them.
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April 9, 2024 • 47 mins
Dr. Kathleen Belew is a historian and expert on the American white power movement. She’s a professor at Northwestern University and author of Bring the War Home: The White Power Movement and Paramilitary America.
You can find Kathleen on Twitter at @Kathleen_Belew, and learn more about her at kathleenbelew.com.
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April 2, 2024 • 53 mins
John Cohen is an expert on terrorism, counter-intelligence, law enforcement, and homeland security. He served as the acting chief of intelligence at the Department of Homeland Security, and now heads the Center for Internet Security.
In this interview, John talks about the rise of domestic terrorism, and how law-enforcement is attempting to counter it.
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March 26, 2024 • 40 mins
Charlie Sadoff is the director of the award-winning documentary film, Against All Enemies, which tracks the rise of violent extremism in the US, and the involvement of military veterans in anti-government activity.
In this interview Charlie discusses Against All Enemies, his experiences with some of the veterans he interviewed for the film, right-wing extremism, and the potential for political violence.
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March 19, 2024 • 52 mins
Dave Troy is an investigative journalist whose work has covered everything from the debunking of UFO conspiracies to the rise of Christian Nationalism. A throughline in his reporting is the growing threat that our democracy now faces, on many fronts.
In this interview, Dave explains how Putin has slowly aligned himself with America’s religious right by using disinformation & Trump. He also talks about Putin’s aspirations, Trump’s...
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March 12, 2024 • 43 mins
Matson (Matt) Browning served as a detective in Arizona, and spent 25 years undercover, infiltrating and eventually taking down white supremacist groups. His wife Tawni assisted in these investigations, accompanying him to skinhead events & gaining intel. Their book, The Hate Next Door, tells the story of their time undercover.
In this interview, Matson & Tawni discuss their time undercover, the attitude & activities of these hate...
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March 4, 2024 • 39 mins
Kaivan discusses Gen-Z’s approach to politics, the right wing political machine, and the 2024 election.
Kaivan Shroff is a political commentator who served on Hillary’s 2016 presidential campaign and with Everytown for Gun Safety. He’s now the Press Secretary for Dream for America, a Gen-Z led non-profit aimed at mobilizing America’s youth to create lasting change.
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February 27, 2024 • 50 mins
Zander Moricz is the founder and Executive Director of the SEE Alliance, and he was the youngest plaintiff in the lawsuit challenging Florida’s Don’t Say Gay bill.
He went viral for his graduation speech and his brutally effective takedown of Mom’s For Liberty co-founder Brigid Ziegler at a recent Florida school board meeting.
In this interview, Zander talks about the growing authoritarian movement in Florida, Gen-Z, and the SEE...
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February 20, 2024 • 56 mins
Tim Alberta is an award winning journalist, author, and staff writer for The Atlantic. His new book, The Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory, is a personal examination of the evangelical movement, and how it has turned America itself into an object of idolatry.
In this interview, Tim talks about his book and how the evangelical movement has become almost inseparable from the extremist wing of the GOP.
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February 13, 2024 • 53 mins
Dr. Steven Hassan is a licensed mental health professional and recognized expert on cults. His book, The Cult of Trump, examines how Trump has built a base with fanatical devotion. Dr. Hassan correctly predicted that there would be violence after the 2020 election if Trump did not win.
In this interview, Hassan explains in detail how he was indoctrinated by the “Moonie” cult (the Unification Church), how he escaped, and the dang...
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February 6, 2024 • 51 mins
Dr. Bandy Lee is a forensic psychiatrist and an expert on violence. In 2017 she edited The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump, in which she and 37 other mental health professionals deemed Trump’s mental state to be a clear and present danger to the country. Since then, she has published a full psychological profile of the former president called Profile of a Nation.
In this interview Dr. Lee discusses Trump’s mental state, and the da...
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January 30, 2024 • 64 mins
While serving as the Assistant Attorney General of New York, Tristan Snell prosecuted Trump University, the Trump Organization, and Donald Trump himself. Tristan’s new book, Taking Down Trump, talks about that case, and lays out the 12 rules for prosecuting Donald Trump.
In this interview, Tristan talks about Trump’s legal strategy, our current judicial system, and Trump’s history of lies.
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January 23, 2024 • 38 mins
Eugene Vindman is a former Army Colonel and prosecutor who is running to represent Virginia’s 7th district.
In 2019, While serving as the National Security Council’s senior ethics officer in the White House, Eugene Vindman’s twin brother Alex, who served on the NSC, alerted him of Trump’s infamous call with President Zelensky of Ukraine, and together, Eugene and Alex Vindmand reported that call. That incident led to Donald Trump’...
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January 16, 2024 • 53 mins
Tina Nguyen is a national news reporter whose first job was working for Tucker Carlson. Her new book, The MAGA Diaries, explains how young people are indoctrinated into the conservative movement. Tina has since turned her back on right-wing politics and become one of MAGA’s most insightful critics.
In this interview, Tina talks about being indoctrinated, working with Tucker Carlson, leaving the right-wing, and witnessing the insur...
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January 9, 2024 • 39 mins
Sergeant Aquilino Gonell was one of the police officers who defended the capitol against insurrectionists on January 6th, 2021. The injuries he sustained that day ended his career in law enforcement, and his new book, American Shield, tells the story of the attack.
In this interview, Aquilino recounts what he saw on January 6th, and explains how he and his fellow officers were betrayed by many of the Republican legislators they f...
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January 2, 2024 • 48 mins
Jared Yates Sexton is a political analyst and author. His book The Midnight Kingdom examines how white supremacist lies, religious mythologies, and poisonous conspiracy theories built the modern world and threaten to plunge us into an authoritarian nightmare.
In this interview, Jared discusses his book, and examines how the right has created a mythologized version of our country which allows them to push an extremist agenda.
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December 26, 2023 • 46 mins
Dr. Khyati Joshi is an expert on the intersecting issues of race and religion in the US. Her book White Christian Privilege describes how Christianity has influenced US history, embedded itself in our institutions and society, and pushed religious freedom to the wayside.
In this interview she uses the “Merry Christmas” vs. “Happy Holidays” debate to illustrate the points she makes in the book.
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December 19, 2023 • 63 mins
Frank’s father Francis Schaeffer was a prominent evangelical theologian in the ‘60s, ‘70s, and ‘80s. Together, Frank and his father made several influential evangelical films and books, and heavily influenced religious education, conservative policy, and the evangelical movement. The New York Times once called them “Evangelical Royalty”.
Frank left the church in “disgust” after witnessing “unchristlike behavior” on a leadership le...
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