The Inner Game of Change

The Inner Game of Change

Welcome to The Inner Game of Change podcast, where we dive deep into the complexities of managing organisational change. Tailored for leaders, change practitioners, and anyone driving transformation, our episodes explore key topics like leadership, communication, change capability, and process design. Expert guests share practical strategies and insights to help you navigate and lead successful change initiatives. Listen in to learn fresh ideas and perspectives from a variety of industries, and gain the tools and knowledge you need to lead transformation with confidence. Explore our episodes at www.theinnergameofchange.com.au, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Youtube or anywhere you listen to your podcasts.

Episodes

January 15, 2026 53 mins

Welcome to The Inner Game of Change.  where we explore the thinking that shapes how change really happens. 

 And this feels like a perfect way to start 2026. 

Today I am joined by someone who represents the very best of what technology leadership can be. Lev Gonic is the Enterprise Chief Information Officer at Arizona State University, but that title only hints at who he really is.

About six months ago, I had the privilege of meeting ...

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What Do I Want This Change To Leave With Me?

Every change leaves something behind.
 A lesson.
 A trace.
 A quieter understanding of who we are becoming.

In this final episode of A Change Question, Ali invites you to pause and reflect on one last question:
What do I want this change to leave with me?

Drawing on Viktor Frankl, T S Eliot, Maya Angelou, and a closing reading from Rainer Maria Rilke, this episode explores ...

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December 17, 2025 11 mins

Today is a little different.

To mark Episode one hundred, I decided not to bring in a guest. Instead, I wanted to pause and reflect on the ninety nine conversations that shaped The Inner Game of Change.

This episode is a quiet look back at how the podcast began during COVID, how the name was inspired by Tim Gallwey’s Inner Game work, and why Dr Michael Canic’s first yes helped set the tone for everything that followed.

Across these ep...

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Welcome to A Change Question — a special mini-series from The Inner Game of Change.

In each short, solo episode, I bring you one question worth sitting with — the kind that can gently shape how we think, work, and move through our lives.

As change unfolds, our attention often becomes scattered.
We try to notice everything.
The risks. The effort. The expectations.
But each stage of a change has its own centre of...

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Welcome to The Inner Game of Change. where we explore the thinking behind the doing of change.

Today I sit down with the thoughtful and very grounded Meg Smith, co author of the practical and timely book Microsoft 365 Copilot Adoption. It is a clear and generous guide for leaders and consultants who want to understand what real adoption looks like inside organisations.

Meg brings that same clarity into our conversation. We speak abou...

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Welcome to A Change Question — a special mini-series from The Inner Game of Change.
In each short, solo episode, I bring you one question worth sitting with — the kind that can spark both personal and professional shifts.  

There are moments in life when a change that once felt right begins to feel small.
 It has shaped us, stretched us, and carried us for a while.
 Then, almost quietly, we realise we have moved beyond i...

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Welcome to The Inner Game of Change. where we explore the thinking behind the doing of change.

In this episode, I am joined by Ross Dawson—futurist, keynote speaker, and author of five influential books, including Thriving on Overload and Developing Knowledge-Based Client Relationships. Ross is known globally for his work at the intersection of foresight, networked systems, and human–AI collaboration.

We unpack what it really means t...

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Welcome to A Change Question — a special mini-series from The Inner Game of Change.
In each short, solo episode, I bring you one question worth sitting with — the kind that can spark both personal and professional shifts. 

Who am I becoming through this change?

From Pip’s awakening in Great Expectations, to David Bowie’s reinvention, to Maya Angelou’s reminder that becoming is rarely glamorous, this episode looks at how change do...

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Welcome to The Inner Game of Change. where we explore the thinking behind the doing of change.

In this episode, we turn our attention to something that is reshaping every part of our work — artificial intelligence. Not as a headline or a fear, but as a companion in how we learn, decide, and lead.

My guest, Joanne Rinaldi, brings a wealth of experience leading enterprise transformation and building centres of excellence that help peop...

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Welcome to A Change Question — a special mini-series from The Inner Game of Change.
In each short, solo episode, I bring you one question worth sitting with — the kind that can spark both personal and professional shifts. 

In this episode, I explore what it means to face change when everything feels chaotic. From buffalo walking into storms to Lou Gerstner steering IBM through crisis, to Shakespeare’s King Lear and Viktor Frankl...

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Welcome to The Inner Game of Change,  where we explore the invisible forces that shape the way we lead, live, and learn, because real change, as you and I know, always starts on the inside. 

In this episode of The Inner Game of Change, I speak with Soraya Espejo — a global transformation strategist, MIT-certified AI and Future of Work advisor, and Founder of Changics. Soraya has worked across more than fifty countries helping leader...

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Welcome to A Change Question — a special mini-series from The Inner Game of Change.
In each short, solo episode, I bring you one question worth sitting with — the kind that can spark both personal and professional shifts. 

Most of us believe change starts the moment we make a decision.
But the truth is, a decision is only the promise — the act is the proof.

In this episode, I explore the gap between deciding and doing — that ...

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Welcome to The Inner Game of Change,  where we explore the invisible forces that shape the way we lead, live, and learn, because real change, as you and I know, always starts on the inside. 

Today, I am joined by Lindsay Phillips. Lindsay is the founder of SkyPhi Studios, a Forbes contributor, and a seasoned change leader who has helped organisations realise the true value of their digital investments. Her work spans leadership coac...

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Welcome to A Change Question — a special mini-series from The Inner Game of Change.
In each short, solo episode, I bring you one question worth sitting with — the kind that can spark both personal and professional shifts. 

In this episode, I explore a question that often slips past us until it is too late: Where is this change leading me, and do I want to follow?

Change always has direction. Sometimes it carries us forward, other...

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Welcome to The Inner Game of Change,  where we explore the invisible forces that shape the way we lead, live, and learn, because real change, as you and I know, always starts on the inside.

My guest today is Dr Amy Silver; a clinical psychologist, author, speaker, and a masterful thinker when it comes to fear, patterns, and performance.

In this episode, Amy and I explore the idea of fear as the loudest guest in the room—an ever-prese...

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Welcome to A Change Question — a special mini-series from The Inner Game of Change.
In each short, solo episode, I bring you one question worth sitting with — the kind that can spark both personal and professional shifts. 

In this episode, I explore a question many of us face when change arrives uninvited: What can I control when change is already on its way?

From restructures to new technology, change often shows up before we’re...

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Welcome to The Inner Game of Change, the podcast where we explore the unseen forces that shape how we lead, adapt, and thrive in the face of change and transformation. 

Each episode is a chance to learn from thinkers, doers, and everyday leaders about what really makes change work — and what keeps it human.

My guest is Rebecca Bultsma — an AI ethics researcher, power user, and someone who lives in that space between awe and dread of ...

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Welcome to A Change Question — a special mini-series from The Inner Game of Change.
In each short, solo episode, I bring you one question worth sitting with — the kind that can spark both personal and professional shifts. 

In this episode, I explore a question we often avoid: How do I initiate change in the workplace?

History shows us that change rarely starts with permission. It begins with a first step — often small, often risk...

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Welcome to The Inner Game of Change, the podcast where we explore the unseen forces that shape how we lead, adapt, and thrive in the face of change and transformation. 

Every so often, I like to step outside and look at what I call the Outer Game of Change—that wider perspective where leaders and influencers shape the systems we all work within.

Today, I am joined by Greg Sawyer, CEO of CAUDIT, the Council of Australasian University ...

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 Welcome to A Change Question — a special mini-series from The Inner Game of Change.
In each short, solo episode, I bring you one question worth sitting with — the kind that can spark both personal and professional shifts. 

We start with a deceptively simple one: What am I tolerating that I no longer have room for?

From George Eliot’s idea of the unhistoric acts that shape our days, to Seneca’s warning about the quiet waste of p...

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